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terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Powerful enough against human foes

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 9:29 PM

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How effective would las guns be against different flood forms

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Likely decent, the only seem worthless due to how OP regular 40k stuff is

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I feel like they’d 1 shot most combat forms

last anchor Dec 26, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I mean, last I checked you cant use a Splaser against a flood form, but they are succeptable to high heat and energy weaponry.
See: Sentienl Beam, almost all Promethean weaponry.

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If I remember right, they can remove torsos on a chest shot and tend to cause targets hit by them to explode if enough energy transfers.
Considering Flood forms are almost all flesh and twisted flesh at that, it'd probably work pretty well.

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 9:31 PM

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And it shoots as fast as an Ma5

last anchor Dec 26, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Doesnt matter if you dont feel pain or dont have organs to rupture if your reduced to chunks of meat with one shot.

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yeah

next fox Dec 26, 2020, 9:32 PM

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How screwed would the covenant be if you gave every Unsc foot soldier a lasgun?

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Very

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Covenant plasma weaponry is like shooting bubbles compared to a lasgun

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Not really, limited recharge and battery

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I mean

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You’d probably take down multiple brutes with a couple shots

cedar surge Dec 26, 2020, 9:35 PM

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That's giving every unsc soldier a energy weapon

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And the covenant don't have much other than shields that can directly stop energy weapon damage

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 9:37 PM

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cedar surge That's giving every unsc soldier a energy weapon

More like giving every unsc soldier a spartan laser

next fox Dec 26, 2020, 9:40 PM

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terse lava Not really, limited recharge and battery

Aren’t lasguns extremely easy to reload

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 9:42 PM

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They can be recharged in a campfire

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Right, I forgot fire recharges lasguns

last anchor Dec 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Your not supposed to do it cause it ruins the battery pack but yes you can do it.

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Normally I think they have solar cells on them and you just leave them in the sun, or you hook them up to a Mechanicus generator. But yes in a pinc you can yeet them into a fire.

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Would finenit amusing if the Covenant could do that

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 10:01 PM

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You know what else is amusing

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tau in melee combat

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Amusing

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Imagine the tau in the Covenant

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 10:21 PM

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They have better weapons and ground vehicles by far

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However the tau aren’t a single species

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Sooo

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I’d say most of them would be above the jiralhanae

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Likely, though don't they ody ha e a population of a few trillion?

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Yes

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They would boost the covenant’s population to unimaginable numbers

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The tau don’t even have to join the covenant itself

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They can just be a permanent ally of the covenant

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Still seems weird for that

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I mean

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Humans are in the tau

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Idk how that would work out

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I'm just trying to figure out how they can have that kind of population when their empire is around the same age of the Covenant

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 10:28 PM

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They’ve been around way longer actually

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Like 6000 years I think

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However the covenant have a much better space navy

cedar surge Dec 26, 2020, 10:31 PM

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So the only to factions of worth doing vs with 40k are the flood and forerunners huh

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Every other faction gets outnumbered or out teched

ocean ibex Dec 26, 2020, 10:32 PM

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You can also include the ancient humans

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They are generally considered above the imperium as well

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Or any ancient halo faction for that matter

terse lava Dec 26, 2020, 10:49 PM

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They have a smaller population then the Forerunners. They were doomed when they went after Forerunner planets

uncut kernel Dec 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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I mean they totally didn't remove most of their population to space puppies that were also zombies that they ate

slim thorn Dec 27, 2020, 12:48 AM

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cedar surge So the only to factions of worth doing vs with 40k are the flood and forerunners...

Isn't it like human-forerunner war lasts for 7 centuries longer than forerunner-flood war?

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Hlo i m relatively new to the halo universe and have some questions abt ai in unsc.

are all military ai created in same way cortana is created (like serina, roland etc) or process by which cortana was created was experimental?
if cortana was created by cloning dr halsey's brain shouldn't there be a place where physical unit of the ai is kept?(a facility maybe or humans possesed tech to convert consciousness to digital contructs.
Thx in adv for answering these questions lol 😊

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Some are created by being robots.

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 1:05 AM

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are all military ai created in same way cortana is created (like serina, roland etc) or process by which cortana was created was experimental?
Smart AI are made by the destructive scanning process they use on brains, Cortana was only experimental in that Halsey cloned her own brain for the scan instead of using her own. However, the UNSC does use Dumb AI as well.

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if cortana was created by cloning dr halsey's brain shouldn't there be a place where physical unit of the ai is kept?(a facility maybe or humans possesed tech to convert consciousness to digital contructs.
Yes, the data chip

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Dumb ai are the coded ones ryt?

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Yep

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Yeah

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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And also if u say the data chip is wht physically left of ai then tht would mean humans posses tech to convert minds into binary or something ryt?

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Yes. The scanning process cuts and pastes brains into digital stuff

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:11 AM

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One more questions Isabel is logistics ai and is considered not on par with military ai so tht would mean she is not a smart ai or she is limited by some factor?

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Limited.

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 1:12 AM

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She's simply a Smart AI that had a job not used for war, so she's out of her element

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:12 AM

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^ definitely not limited

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Oh.

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:13 AM

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gilded mason She's simply a Smart AI that had a job not used for war, so she's out of her ele...

So if she is was not been used on her ful potential before spirit of fire found her does tht impy she would have went rampant early?

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:14 AM

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no

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:14 AM

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No, she was created post war.

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:14 AM

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she was used to her full potential, just not for a purpose of combat and warfare purposes

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and rampancy doesn't account for her role

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:15 AM

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I think i missed something in lore does post war ai differ in case of rampancy then pre and during war ai?

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I mean the rampancy timer was essentially reset and they oughtta innovated the AI

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:17 AM

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not at all, the average seven year life span is still the same

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Well still- the timer was still ticking

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and not critically low

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Post-War AI and wartime era AI don't have much difference between, only time a difference was mentioned was in the Kilo-5 Trilogy book Glasslands where Black-Box mentioned he was an AI made with the help of other AI though its written as a sorta joke and its unknown if that is to be taken seriously

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and also for the record, the seven year life span is not a hard limit - it's UNSC policy to decommission AI at seven years but there are plenty of instances continuing past that date in lore

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some of them unexplained, others explained as through elongating their lifespans by various means

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:19 AM

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plot twist: Isabel is an engineer

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:19 AM

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uncut kernel plot twist: Isabel is an engineer

O.o

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Let's not confuse him

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Lol i was gonna ask more questions abt all this but plot twist by @uncut kernel threw all of them out of window

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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It was a joke btw

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Oh ok i was gonna go and play hw2 on legendary as tht is the only think i hadnt done to know abt this 😂

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Idk how to ask this but is there an account of oni to doing experiment of using ai as a synthetic solders?

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:26 AM

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No.O

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:26 AM

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No

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Y

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Human soldiers are more expendable and easier to replenish

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:27 AM

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I know tht theu wont do tht after wht contrana did

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But shouldnt synthetic solders save mlre human lives

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Not in this time

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They would be corrupted by Cortana or shut down by the UEG

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:28 AM

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ocean ibex They would be corrupted by Cortana or shut down by the UEG

I know theu wont do tht after wht cortana has done but during war

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Synthetic soldiers wouldn’t have made much of a difference in the war

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:30 AM

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can u plz explain how

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:32 AM

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The UNSC fought like the soviets during ww2, they traded lives for time, synthetic soldiers wouldn’t be that much more effective than regular humans, and they would be much harder to produce

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Oh so basically they didnt have ability to mass produce solders

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:35 AM

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this is one of those kinds of questions that can have a broad range of answers, but the easiest answer is that Halo tonally hasn't had need for robot soldiers - the series is a call back to classical military sci fi where the heart and soul of the human military is the Space Marine

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:35 AM

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And that, robotic soldiers would ruin the entire narrative

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@ocean ibex I should remark that we've been fighting robotic soldiers since Halo 4 and there was intent for Insurrectionist drone soldiers in Halo 5's early development but the idea was scrapped

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:36 AM

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ocean ibex And that, robotic soldiers would ruin the entire narrative

I agree with tht as dead of characters wouldnt have mattered if they were synth

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:37 AM

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cortana is a synthetic creation, her death still had meaning - despite her resurrection, you could say the same about a lot of other AI and Forerunner AIs that died during the franchise

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robots are just as important characters as flesh and blood ones

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:38 AM

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@vague scroll i was talking more akin to death of jonson lol but ok

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Also cptn keys

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I know, some could say Halo 4's ending with Cortana's death has more emotional stakes than Johnson's death in Halo 3

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Well halo 4 cortana is also more humanized of all cortana (didn played h5 so cannot say abt tht)

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:40 AM

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I’m kind of glad they didn’t go that route for halo 5, it would’ve been odd transitioning from fighting ancient robots to fighting drones

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Halo 5's cortana isn't as well written as Halo 4, fan response to her depiction was mixed and even controversial

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oh the drones would have just been a separate faction thing, fighting for the Meridian miners

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Thx for all the answers lol it was helpful

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 1:42 AM

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oh yeah halo 5 cortana is just kinda the didact if they didnt want to turn people into robots, also NP

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:42 AM

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@ocean ibex https://www.halopedia.org/Insurrectionist#/media/File:H5-ConceptArt-JohnVSRobot.jpg this was one of the two concept art pieces that was to be the innie robots, didn't go very far

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Was there any early modeling done for them at all?

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:44 AM

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nope

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never got past concept art as far as we know

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Seems like mech stuff to me

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:45 AM

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well that's what they were kinda supposed to be

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mech in the sense of a robot with guns on it

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Basically walkimg turrets

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:46 AM

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I would guess that was the intent or something, we don't really see them armed with anything, either just sneaking up on Chief, or getting shot by Chief

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Well i wanna see jerome meet up with chief in halo infinite

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Now tht banised have been introduced in main franchise

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:48 AM

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That would be unlikely

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Unfortunate

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Y

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Escharum never mentioned anything about humans on the ark in SOS, basically implies they’re still stuck on the ark

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:50 AM

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because Halo Wars and Halo Infinite are different types of games, their characters and narratives don't really mix; and there hasn't been any news at the moment of Halo Wars actors coming back for Infinite's story either

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they could be playing it close to the chest but we know more about characters possibly returning from Halo 5 in Infinite than anything on how Wars 2 ties into Infinite

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Will there atleast be some mention of them?

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:51 AM

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no one knows

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there's very little that anyone actually knows about Halo Infinite's plot

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we have strong confidence that its Installation 07, that the UNSC Infinity was present at one point,that the game takes place almost a year and a half after Halo 5, that the Banished will be the main enemy in the place of the old Covenant

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Shouldnt main enemy be cortana?

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:54 AM

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no mention of the Created or Cortana at this time

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 1:54 AM

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I mean Halo rarely shows its 3rd faction in advertisements

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 1:54 AM

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^

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most likely the Created will be there but that hasn't been revealed yet

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I’d say considering the last book the created is most likely

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Wht u guys think goal would be to capture cortana or destroy?

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If they are there or she will be the permanent evemy for some games or even till the end of the life cycle of infinite?

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 1:57 AM

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I doubt it and it really could be either or with capture or kill.

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All we know for certain is there’s no way to morally redeem her after she killed a few million people.

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:00 AM

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But many ppl also say she is like this bec of logic plague by gravemind during her torture

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I know tht donest give her a kill all humanity for free card

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And i kinda think if tht would be the case then this would not be revealed during her end?

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:02 AM

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oak beacon But many ppl also say she is like this bec of logic plague by gravemind during h...

Yeah, she wasn't given logic plague by that. In fact, the short story about it implies the opposite

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:03 AM

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gilded mason Yeah, she wasn't given logic plague by that. In fact, the short story about it i...

Oh ? Wht short story can u link it

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:03 AM

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It's from Halo Evolutions. Called "Human Weakness".

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Oh ok i guess i will be reading tht

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Logic plague is a bad theory and it’s only as wide spread as it is because of one youtuber who I’m almost certain just has a thing for the flood at this point.

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Like there’s been so many quicker and easier ways to explain why things have unfolded the way they have but Xperia just has a 10x10’ cork board of conspiracy theories to re-enforce a bad confirmation bias that the flood are at the root of everything.

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Lol xperia do seem to have a thing for flood 😂

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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iconic

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He actually talked about “logic plague seeds” at one point.

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Yeah, I was gonna say, if it wasn’t him who else would it be lol, but yeah, he makes every simple theory 10x more complicated, like he has to include “the precursor’s grand plan” in everything related to the smallest flood outbreaks.

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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It’s real bad that people actually buy in on what he says.

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Sry i guess i have fallen prey to tht

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:11 AM

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@ocean ibex got to consider his position, he's a content creator and dealing with a Youtube algorithm that is more generous towards longer videos that allow more space for ad time

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:12 AM

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He could always just make better content and not stick to only one subject

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I guess its gud tht now i mostly watch installations 00

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:13 AM

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'better content' is subjective, and if people are interested in the Flood, that's what he's going to focus on - people aren't going to watch videos about 'lore about San'Shyuum eating habits or something rather nebulous

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:14 AM

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I mean branch out and just cover other types of games or material. Also at the point where his own lack of content is beginning to cause widespread misinformation I feel like I’m well within my rights to start getting annoyed at it.

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:15 AM

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vague scroll <@!506639142722076681> got to consider his position, he's a content creator and ...

I suppose, he stopped doing lore videos which was what most people watched him for, you can see that his channel is getting less views than what he used to, I guess he just does what makes himself happy

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:16 AM

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more power to him then, whatever works for him, I've stopped carrying what Halo Youtubers do beyond understanding the logistics they're dealing with - I can make up my own mind or do my own research on Halo lore - I'm past the point of letting others do the stuff for me

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plus, a lot of the channels are using the same easy resources fans can access on their own these days - particularly Halopedia

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I don’t get the logistics when there are lots of content creators that don’t resort to horse corpse beating for a living.

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:18 AM

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craggy sierra I mean branch out and just cover other types of games or material. Also at the p...

He is, I think he’s trying to cover more scp content until halo infinite comes out

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:18 AM

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vague scroll plus, a lot of the channels are using the same easy resources fans can access on...

But halopedia is also maintianed by fans ryt?

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Also on a more nebulous level, I hate what youtubers have done to how people actually interpret lore.

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:19 AM

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usually, halo 4 5 bad everything else gud.

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:19 AM

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let me be first to remind you guys that this is not the place to be compare Halo Youtubers, this is a community discord, everyone is welcome here and should be treated free of character assassination

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especially when this is the lore channel, we're here to discuss lore, not the actions of Youtubers - I'm sure if a mod was watching right now, they'd tell us the same

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:20 AM

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People don’t view Halo’s lore as stories because of people like them. So many people just view lore as a bullet list of neat little tidbits completely devoid of context or characters.

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And I hate that

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:21 AM

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vague scroll especially when this is the lore channel, we're here to discuss lore, not the ac...

Agreed

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Back to lore, anyone else think we should see more of the day to day life in halo?

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Especially in the covenant.

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Yes

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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I could do with it

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Sure

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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oak beacon But halopedia is also maintianed by fans ryt?

@oak beacon yes its maintained by fans but Halo Youtubers are fans too, the Halopedia admin team is widely respected in the lore community, helping many communities and content creators. Multiple are part of Sins of the Prophets, ARMA's Operation Trebuchet, etc. They're all over the community and many are dedicated, especially CIA931 who is a Halo Discord admin, friendly guy, and he sets a high standard for making sure the information hosted on Halopedia is kept up to date or accurate.

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Sure- it wouldn't work in games but for books it'd be useful.

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Ye, or comics

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Agreed.

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Actually, it could work for non-FPS games

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If they ever decide to make an RPG or something

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Halo RPGs wouldn't be a bad place to look at that

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I mean, it could work for an exploration styled game.

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Imagine exploring high charity or sangheilios.

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:23 AM

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what is the flood my step dad was talking about it and i forgot is like headcrabs half life?

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Frankie was big into making a Halo game like that

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:23 AM

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btw he is MASSIVE halo fan\

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Good for him

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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vague scroll <@!155305216315490305> yes its maintained by fans but Halo Youtubers are fans to...

Ok i was just pointing tht out bec mostly ppl in other fandoms dont take wiki seriously

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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hazy summit what is the flood my step dad was talking about it and i forgot is like headcrab...

The flood are a parasite that infect things.

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ok

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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And yea, I guess infection forms are based off head crabs

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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like codvid!

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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But they lean more towards facehuggers

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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oops i meant covid

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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@oak beacon yeah I've been a part of the wiki scene, I get what you mean, Halopedia I would say personally has a higher quality standard than most wiki percentiles

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Yes, but instead turn people into mutated monsters.

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/headcrab-half-life-half-life-alyx-afraid-gaming-gif-17329251

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ocean ibex And yea, I guess infection forms are based off head crabs

Think they were thought of before Half-life came out

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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This is what a headcrab is btw

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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ive played half life 1 like 3 times

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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headcrab is from the Half-Life franchies @ocean ibex

oak beacon Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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vague scroll <@!155305216315490305> yeah I've been a part of the wiki scene, I get what you m...

Ok glad to know i can trust wikia here

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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i beat it those 3 times

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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gilded mason Think they were thought of before Half-life came out

(X) to doubt

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I meant the original half life

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/bomb-bruh-mailbox-jump-jumping-gif-18537429

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Oh

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Mixed up the dates

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I will continue to emphasize Halopedia over Halo Alpha, mostly in that Halo Alpha has a smaller editor pool @oak beacon

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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THIS IS HALO DISCORD NOT HALF LIFE

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:26 AM

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craggy sierra (X) to doubt

I remember seeing concept art of them, or something, that was dated before Half-life

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 2:26 AM

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WHATEVER, SOAPMAN OUT

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nah jk

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:26 AM

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don't need to yell Soapman

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Also, we should have more information on what the civilians and non combatants do because in lore all we see often is them being slaughtered or avoiding being slaughtered.

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:27 AM

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@hazy summit here, more information on the Flood than you could probably ever need

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https://www.halopedia.org/Flood

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:28 AM

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i'm an idiot, I just now realized there was a night theme

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:29 AM

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lol yeah, the Halopedia UI can be hard to navigate sometimes on a first try

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 2:29 AM

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@craggy sierra
Ah, now I remember. Robert McLees said he expanded the Flood from the concepts for them made in Marathon 2, back in 1995.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071114162205/http://www.bungie.net/projects/marathon/asset_popup_viewer.aspx?at=51&cc=33&item=2

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I've used it for so long and never realized

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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ah gotcha, I still use the default light theme mostly because I'm too lazy despite liking the night theme

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I use it mostly for fact checking, also The night theme is literally right next to the notifaction bell

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I also just realized there is a halopedia article on toilets

uncut kernel Dec 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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~~you mean Prometheans?~~

craggy sierra Dec 27, 2020, 2:45 AM

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“Forget the bollocks, it’s fungal zombies”

vague scroll Dec 27, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Were it so easy

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 7:24 AM

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vague scroll <@!378950190343651338> here, more information on the Flood than you could probab...

does the halopedia website have stuff from OP halo CE pistol to Grunts? because i might do some stuff with the Insane 3 hit CE pistol or research\

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Yes

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It has everything related to lore

hazy summit Dec 27, 2020, 7:38 AM

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ok

jagged pasture Dec 27, 2020, 9:12 PM

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yo guys I got the forerunner trilogy + the broken circle books for christmas, and I was wondering, does broken circle come after the trilogy?

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Yeah.

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Yes it does

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Forerunner trilogy takes place hundreds of thousands of years before broken circle

jagged pasture Dec 27, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I meant like, is it the book that comes right after?

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there's no book to read in between the trilogy and broken circle?

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cuz I know the forerunner saga comes before everything else

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I think it's next, timeline-wise, yeah

jagged pasture Dec 27, 2020, 9:30 PM

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ok thx

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Would the Spartan II augmentation procedures render the Spartan IIs sterile?

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Nope

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Oh

pale zephyr Dec 27, 2020, 10:12 PM

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thanks bot

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Not sterile, but they did experience decreased libido.

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lmao

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:13 PM

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That word was fine a few months ago. What the hell

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Guess that makes sense to some degree

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Also no

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There was only a risk of reduced...drive

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:13 PM

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If you had the choice, would you become a Spartan IV?

pale zephyr Dec 27, 2020, 10:13 PM

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https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_augmentation_procedures Yeah, I just checked, "Rare instances".

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:14 PM

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versed helm If you had the choice, would you become a Spartan IV?

Maybe. Though you need constant tune-ups for your body afterward, and I have no idea what the full consequences of not getting them are.

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I know that the Prelates exist (It still would've been cool to fight one) but why didn't the Covenant try to create their own super soldiers?

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Outside of the prelates, they never needed ones

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:19 PM

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True but it would've been awesome to fight a cybernetically and biologically enhanced Brute Chieftain

cedar surge Dec 27, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Yea the elites usually were already better to other aliens

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Wouldn't they see that as weakness?

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There whole making yourself stronger through that

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Some might

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Plus, I would imagine that the Covenant might've had some religious rules that forbade biological augmentation, in the same way that they forbade the creation of A.I

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Nah.

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Otherwise they wouldn't make the prelates. And the AI thing came from a very specific thing

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:23 PM

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True

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Like I think the Covenant learned about what MB did to their gods

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Yes

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Hmm, if you were to create your own Covenant ministry, what would it be called and what would its function be?

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Anyone?

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I've no idea

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Hmm, here is my answer

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The Ministry of Historical Preservation and its function is to preserve every record that details the Covenant's history, as well as the histories and cultures of its various member races, as well as the schematics of its various weaponry, vehicles, and spacecraft, as well as Covenant astrogation charts and religious texts, and etc. It's main archives is located on High Charity but it also has backup archives and libraries located on Sanghelios just in case the main archives and libraries on High Charity were lost

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That is the best I got

gilded mason Dec 27, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Sounds nice

cedar surge Dec 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Ministry of grunt diplomacy

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Well the main archives and libraries on High Charity were destroyed when the Flood took over High Charity, as for the backup archives and libraries on Sanghelios, I was thinking that they eventually fell into the hands of Thel Vadam's SOS

cedar surge Dec 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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These guys had a rebellion every other weekend

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Hooray for grunt rights

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:36 PM

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How does my Ministry sound?

cedar surge Dec 27, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Wait Howe is information stored in the covenant

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And it sounds good

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I would imagine digital or something

ocean ibex Dec 27, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Why would they keep weapon schematics?

versed helm Dec 27, 2020, 10:38 PM

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shrugs

cedar surge Dec 27, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Why not

carmine sleet Dec 27, 2020, 11:00 PM

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ocean ibex Why would they keep weapon schematics?

Kinda important to have a record of stuff like that. If they lose one set of schematics, it's good to have a backup set just in case

cedar surge Dec 27, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Yea don't want another reach scenario where just losing the planet means losing a very important line of weapon

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Seriously all the sabre schematics were at reach

dapper harbor Dec 28, 2020, 12:43 AM

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That is...really idiotic

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That’s like keeping the death star plans in one location.

unique rune Dec 28, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Except... that wasn't what happened with the Sabre.

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Sabre production continued after the Fall of Reach,[9] with only a few hundred craft total being built during the Human-Covenant War. In spite of this, the operational squadrons were able to rack up an impressive kill count.[6] ... Although the fighter never saw mass production due to its experimental nature, it remained in service at Office of Naval Intelligence facilities in the Sol system and other confidential locations following the Covenant War.

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And even if the UNSC had lost all data on the Sabre program at Reach, it's not like it was the only space fighter available to them.

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It was an effective craft, but the UNSC still could fall back on the Longsword, Broadsword, Baselard, etc.

Reach killed the Sabre most likely because it was a heavy material and manufacturing loss for the UNSC, not because of the program itself.

uncut kernel Dec 28, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Dadab
Dimkee Hotay
Kwassass
Stolt
Yabda
Yayap
Gudam Keschun cannon names grunts

cedar surge Dec 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Huh

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Wait are all those s's really apart of that name

uncut kernel Dec 28, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Yes

cunning wave Dec 28, 2020, 6:56 AM

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So do we know if members of the covenant believe in prayer or not?

gilded mason Dec 28, 2020, 6:57 AM

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I imagine they only saw prayer useful in the form of meditation or worship, not believing it would grant anything more.

versed helm Dec 28, 2020, 10:40 AM

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The purpose of prayer would depend on what they thought was at the end of the great journey, I think

versed helm Dec 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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What other races could've been waging war against the Covenant besides humanity?

cedar surge Dec 28, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I don't think any were seeing was how post war the unsc never met any

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Or during their 27 year war

versed helm Dec 28, 2020, 3:13 PM

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I mean, if the Covenant didn't use their full military might against humanity, (probably because they were fighting the Banished), I wouldn't be surprised if they were also waging war against other interstellar empires while they were genociding humanity

craggy sierra Dec 28, 2020, 3:14 PM

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That’s not how that worked

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The banished were incredibly small during the war and were just using hit and run guerrilla tactics to basically pester the covenant

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They were hardly engaged in war.

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They had insider knowledge of the covenants’ movements and used it to avoid them and catch them off guard at optimal times to do hit and runs.

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I think the banished only began existing like 2 years before the war ended

versed helm Dec 28, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Oh

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So how will Atriox die and who would kill him?

craggy sierra Dec 28, 2020, 3:28 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pale zephyr Dec 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Craig will be the one to do it.

craggy sierra Dec 28, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Yeah we’ll get back to you after that story gets written

carmine sleet Dec 28, 2020, 3:51 PM

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craggy sierra The banished were incredibly small during the war and were just using hit and ru...

To add onto this, the Banished also formed near the end of the war, so if the Covenant was fighting a war on two fronts during the Human-Covenant War, it wasn't waged with the Banished

ocean ibex Dec 28, 2020, 5:02 PM

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versed helm What other races could've been waging war against the Covenant besides humanity?

None, there shouldn’t be any other race that is as advanced and powerful as the covenant, the covenant are probably the only interstellar empire in the entire known galaxy, even though the librarian cataloged and reseeded over 120 species, it’s likely none of them have even reached the pre industrial stage.

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Then again, it may have been that bungie was too lazy to introduce a new faction

stable flower Dec 28, 2020, 5:34 PM

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versed helm What other races could've been waging war against the Covenant besides humanity?

Maybe Covenant fringe species.

broken copper Dec 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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has anyone here read shadows of reach?

gilded mason Dec 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Yes.

broken copper Dec 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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im considering reading it but i kinda wanna go into halo infinite blind

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does it set up the beggining of infinite like with how chief is floating in space and stuff?

gilded mason Dec 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Not at all.

broken copper Dec 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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o okey so it wont really spoil anything from infinite

gilded mason Dec 28, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Yup. Timeline-wise, it takes place ||like 6 months before Infinite.||

broken copper Dec 28, 2020, 7:19 PM

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ok thanks

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i think ill get it then

cedar surge Dec 28, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@ocean ibex I wouldnt say in the whole galaxy

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They mostly been in the Orion arm

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Plus the forerunners reserved the whole galaxy

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Its just most of our view has been in the Orion arm

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I just finished reading Mortal Dictata. Very interesting story. I really liked BB

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i don't get why people disliked it

gilded mason Dec 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Things like retconning stuff just to make Halsey look worse, and (I don't remember much of this part, personally) weird moral grandstanding that makes members of Kilo-5 fine with a terrorist that wanted to murder millions of people on Earth, but hate lesser actions from others.

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Ya, the Halsey stuff was a bit over board. I can understand why the ODSTs hate her. I did get a feel that some of the lore in the book was a little off and doesn't feel right in the timeline of Halo.

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I didn't get why ex covies were buying weapons when they piratically owned the whole former army's arsenal

gilded mason Dec 28, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Also...it's just one single ship.

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Not exactly a doomsday situation the book was trying to make it out to be

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:22 PM

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ya

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would have been a lot more interesting if Sentzke actually did something

modest solstice Dec 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

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How did the flood combat forms break down the forerunner doors when you first encounter them in halo 1? Isn't forerunne material super hard?

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Flood carrier forms have strong explosions

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in universe they're able to pry the doors open and break through. In the game its more of mechanics

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I'm sure there's a better explanation but that's what i got

modest solstice Dec 28, 2020, 8:36 PM

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But when we look at halo 2, the forerunner door where johnsson uses the scarab beam takes around 3 to 4 shots from it

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:37 PM

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ya...

modest solstice Dec 28, 2020, 8:37 PM

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So a combat form simply prying the door or a carrier form explosion would do nothing on it

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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You might want to consult the AI Installation 00 for that one

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Well, I'd imagine the doors on that mission would be significantly stronger given the building is of some importance and its heavily protected. And ya containment facilities should also be heavily fortified

modest solstice Dec 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Exactly

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But it did make their reveal a little scarier

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I guess theres no explanation other than horror movie cliche

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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ya

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its probably just mechanics

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we do know the Flood were significantly more powerful than the Forerunners and Pre-Humans in sheer numbers and strength. To topple an empire is one thing, but to rid the Galaxy of life is another.

modest solstice Dec 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Yeah but the flood was signicantly stronger in that time

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They can only be as powerful as the species they conquer

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:45 PM

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i agree. they captured 2 prophets, a monitor, and an entire mobile city with millions of inhabitants

modest solstice Dec 28, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Theres alot of plot holes in the games better to just brush it off as game mechanics

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And try not to think about it too hard

sage vapor Dec 28, 2020, 8:47 PM

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ya

modest solstice Dec 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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"Silence fills the empty grave, now that I have gone. But my mind is not at rest, for questions linger on."

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Giant plant

stable flower Dec 28, 2020, 10:54 PM

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modest solstice Theres alot of plot holes in the games better to just brush it off as game mech...

Such as POA being bigger on the inside in The Maw

craggy sierra Dec 28, 2020, 11:28 PM

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modest solstice How did the flood combat forms break down the forerunner doors when you first en...

The covenant/UNSC blasted their way into that place thinking it was a weapons cache.

stable flower Dec 28, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I think he meant like when you first encounter the Flood, the infection forms break through the doors.

ocean ibex Dec 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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The flood already had control over the facility by that point, they were watching Johnson’s squad as soon as they entered the area, I’m guessing they blew out the doors manually

terse lava Dec 29, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Think it was implied the Covenant managed to contain the outbreak t the local area until Keys released more

next fox Dec 29, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I just realized there were probably millions of species the librarian failed to catalog and now they’re gone permanently

versed helm Dec 29, 2020, 1:51 AM

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The galaxy is a big place

slim thorn Dec 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

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terse lava Think it was implied the Covenant managed to contain the outbreak t the local ar...

Nah, they didn't. The Covenant got some infected released and if does, the facility won't run dormant or empty. Most likely the Flood clears it out and sets for another trap.

rain stratus Dec 29, 2020, 3:37 AM

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CSGOLegendary

fresh oriole Dec 29, 2020, 10:46 AM

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The flood ran and made flood clans a thing the end

dusty prawn Dec 29, 2020, 10:49 AM

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@next fox Yeah most likely a lot of the species are just gone, in fact I might even say most, who knows. One of the saddest parts of Silentium for me is the end, when 343 is about to become the monitor of 04:

There is one last patch of communication, somewhere below, within a great dense cloud - perhaps a star nursery. A new and precocious civilization acquiring its voice only now, having eluded both the Forerunners and the Flood ... sending its first plaintive, hopeful signals.
Crying out for attention. Heed us!
I do not understand what they are trying to say. Do not know what they might have looked like, cannot imagine what they might have done, had they been born in more fortuitous times.
And then ... even that young voice is gone.

versed helm Dec 29, 2020, 12:29 PM

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So most of the galaxy could be lifeless wastelands?

slim thorn Dec 29, 2020, 1:35 PM

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versed helm So most of the galaxy could be lifeless wastelands?

Depends on the environment is I have to say.

versed helm Dec 29, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Environment, and the organisms in the environment

cedar surge Dec 29, 2020, 3:14 PM

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That's just sad

wintry cipher Dec 29, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I kinda want a Halo game where you play as Thel 'Vadam during the events of Halo CE. I think there's enough there to make a game.

cedar surge Dec 29, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Well wouldn't that just be CE DLC?

gilded mason Dec 29, 2020, 7:45 PM

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It'd be fairly boring. Since you'd just be on a ship giving some high-level orders and delegating strategy stuff

still ibex Dec 29, 2020, 7:50 PM

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basically halo wars but with a thel campaign

cedar surge Dec 29, 2020, 8:11 PM

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The only big battles you would have would be the battle for the autumn,alpha base, and battle for the autumn 2

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Most of the time is just spent on the ship

limpid meadow Dec 29, 2020, 8:36 PM

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And even then, Thel's participation wasn't all that direct.

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Now a CE-set campaign as an Elite would be pretty cool, although I think you could tell a more interesting and meaningful story with a different setting altogether.

gilded mason Dec 29, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Got one that's been on your mind?

slim thorn Dec 29, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Vadam was not going down to the field on CE

terse lava Dec 29, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I would say for a covenant campaign, just set on some world that has not been explored yet

fleet wedge Dec 29, 2020, 9:50 PM

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me silently watches

stable flower Dec 29, 2020, 11:20 PM

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If it's a Covenant campaign they'll probably have it against a heretic group or something else to avoid killing humans because you know.

fair hazel Dec 30, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I find it funny how it's taken a bit of time for some people to realize that the seeker of the one freedom

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in MCC

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Yeah. It's like "Yeah, we've seen this for a while, guys..."

jolly furnace Dec 30, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I wonder if Brutes have a flight or fight reflex like ours.

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Like brutes are already insanely strong but imagine one with lots of adrenaline pumping through em and their brains override their muscle strength restriction they'd otherwise have

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Like we can't use most of ours cos it would rip our ligmaments off if we did I read

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Don't you mean Keepers?

lyric cedar Dec 30, 2020, 3:20 AM

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So are the Banished the strongest faction?

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Nope

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Either the Swords of Sanghelios, or a larger, unknown covenant faction

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Yup

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 3:48 AM

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There are likely covenant groups who are larger then humanity, or know nothing of the schism, or even the war itself

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I still wanna see a short story involving that last one

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Do you now eh?

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Yeh

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You implyin' something, Ado?

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 3:53 AM

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lyric cedar So are the Banished the strongest faction?

Rofl hell no

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 3:54 AM

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terse lava There are likely covenant groups who are larger then humanity, or know nothing o...

Do the Ussans count?

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Maybe sorta-kinda.

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Technically no, seeing as they were never covenant from the get go

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They were the first though if you want to count them

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And yes Ostral, I might😁

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 3:56 AM

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☺️

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 4:14 AM

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The Servants of Abiding Truth weren't Covenant either, right?

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Correct

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Well, sorta

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The organization existed outside of the Covenant for a long time

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Though it gained new members once the war ended

fair hazel Dec 30, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Yes keepers. That's whjy it sounded wrong

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Well they said strongest faction not strongest covenant faction

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Which is currently the created

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I forgot they existed lmao

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I try to forget them

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Probably won't exist in a year or two

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Accept your new benevolent galactic overlords, brought to you by giant metal space owls

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Yes cause clearly killing a bunch of your populace with E.M.Ps and prometheans is going to make your empire come along smoothly

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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It did for the Forerunners (ignoring several forerunner civil wars every few eons), and for empress Cortana I guess that’s justification enough lol

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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All hail Cortana - the super Karen.

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Yea and look at where that got the forerunners

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Floodified,or flying through space,or stuck inside a cryptum or something

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Shhh, they can’t hear you over “The Mantle of Responsibility shelters all!”

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:41 AM

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At gunpoint*

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Shhh

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Plus it looks like cortana is doing a worse job if she can't smack down the banished who aren't even using the forerunner drive like the infinity which she can't track for a reason

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:44 AM

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I wouldn’t read into that too much, could be a matter of policy of focus. Her new order certainly won’t be formed in a single year.

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On the planets she does have control of, like Earth, she’s still got active enemy threats. The GEN1 Recon helmet in H5 remarks about ONI recon teams still active on Earth.

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:45 AM

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The created are really going to be a come and go

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Gone in less than 2 years I think

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Probably, either way, they’ve still going to cause a major shift change

cedar surge Dec 30, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Like a nuclear missile onto a chess table

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Halo Infinite is just shy of two years after Halo 5, so I’d bet they’ll make it passed the 2 year mark at least

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 5:47 AM

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That's pretty sad when you think about it

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Come to think of it, have we been shown anything benevolent of the Create? Besides Balaho?

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Not quite, they promised to have running water and relief supplies to the surrendered Insurrectionist civilians soon in Bad Blood at least

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Balaho still remains the best example of Created intentions atm

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Including killing everyone at the human embassy as soon as some number of Unggoy said they wanted to be under the Created? ;)

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Yep 😉

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 5:57 AM

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I wonder how the Banished are doing against the Created.

dusty prawn Dec 30, 2020, 5:58 AM

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From what we saw they seem to be trying their best to avoid them, staying away from drawing Created attention

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I actually wonder how much of the Created has been deployed. And much how many are just stuck fighting large covie factions

versed helm Dec 30, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I want to see the Ussans make an appearance again

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Like what they have been up to since the events of Broken Circle

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And also discover what Zo Resken has learned about the Forerunners since he decided to bum it out with the Ussans

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I'd like to see more Shield Worlds play a role in the games.

versed helm Dec 30, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Did the Forerunners ever travel to any other galaxies besides Path Kethona?

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Speaking of Path Kethona, why was it devoid of life besides that one planet that was inhabited by a group of ancient Forerunners?

prisma raven Dec 30, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Fun fact, Mechs can be destroyed by howitzers

stable flower Dec 30, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Shot in the dark, but how did Cortana know the Covenant was finished and Truth was dead? She was on HC the whole time.

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 7:21 AM

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There was kinda a bit of time between the last two levels, you know.

fair hazel Dec 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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and she could simply have accessed the feed

versed helm Dec 30, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Not to mention that everybody would've been talking about it

echo jay Dec 30, 2020, 6:22 PM

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versed helm Speaking of Path Kethona, why was it devoid of life besides that one planet that...

No one really knows. It's possible that there just, well, wasn't any life. They didn't find any evidence of technological civilizations in the galaxy, so its unlikely there was a giant war or something

ocean ibex Dec 30, 2020, 6:25 PM

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versed helm Did the Forerunners ever travel to any other galaxies besides Path Kethona?

Forerunners were more than capable of reaching andromeda, but unfortunately we will probably never know of any expeditions that were sent

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They could’ve done such a journey at one point

jagged schooner Dec 30, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Quick question, is it true that arbiter was responsible for the glassing of Reach??

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Partly. His fleet was one of several that did so.

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Though he also left immediately to pursue the Autumn so he didn't see very much action.

jagged schooner Dec 30, 2020, 6:54 PM

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@gilded mason thanks for that, just making sure

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@gilded mason and I'm guessing, that's why he was called a heretic by the prophets

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 7:01 PM

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jagged schooner <@260910412080480256> and I'm guessing, that's why he was called a heretic by th...

No? He was called a heretic because he was scapegoated into being responsible for not protecting Alpha Halo from destruction.

jagged schooner Dec 30, 2020, 7:02 PM

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That's what I meant, I just had my events crossed 😂😂

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Ah

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Thought Thel was still given overall command at Reach during that final battle.

gilded mason Dec 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Maybe, but the point is that he was only there for a day, when glassing was being before and after, too.

humble yacht Dec 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Look up the halo legends ost

jagged schooner Dec 30, 2020, 9:49 PM

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@humble yacht my favourite episode from halo legends has to be odd one out

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Spartan 1337 needs his own game, change my mind

gaunt oakBOT Dec 30, 2020, 9:50 PM

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craggy sierra Dec 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Uh...should we tell him?

pale zephyr Dec 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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postums

flat bone Dec 30, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Lol

ocean ibex Dec 30, 2020, 10:33 PM

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💀

shut dew Dec 30, 2020, 10:37 PM

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The Flood have no definite backstory
Precursors created Forerunners. Forerunners got mad and wiped out Precursors. Precursors went into stasis by breaking themselves down into powder. Something went wrong with the powder over a couple million years. Stupid people use powder on animals without any effects, but then it backfires

fair hazel Dec 30, 2020, 10:50 PM

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How does he even make such a claim

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Likey only played the games i assume

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But yeah, said powder finally began mutating the pets, which belonged to ancient humans, some of which ate said pets. The mutation passed on to said humans, which behaved like Rage Virus zombies. Eventually mutated themselves into the first combat.forms

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 11:21 PM

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jagged schooner Spartan 1337 needs his own game, change my mind

as a heads up, Odd One Out is the only anime short from Halo Legends that is considered by 343i to be non-canon - it was written as a parody of Dragon Ball Z and created by the same anime studio for that very reason.

jagged schooner Dec 30, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@vague scroll i know, it was made as a satirical nod to the heroic character of master chief

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 11:30 PM

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gotcha, aye

fair hazel Dec 30, 2020, 11:37 PM

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But even if he only played the games, how can he be sure of that claim

vague scroll Dec 30, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Self assurance is a very common personal trait, for good and bad cases

terse lava Dec 30, 2020, 11:55 PM

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The Covenant are pretty much that to a T

dusk basin Dec 31, 2020, 12:03 AM

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cole protocol happens before fall of reach, correct?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Yes.

dusk basin Dec 31, 2020, 12:03 AM

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ok good

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i recently got contact harvest, cole protocol, the fall of reach, the flood, first strike, and ghosts of onyx and im itching to get to fall of reach but i know cole protocol comes before it

craggy sierra Dec 31, 2020, 12:31 AM

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You really are better off following the release order

gilded mason Dec 31, 2020, 12:33 AM

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^

dusk basin Dec 31, 2020, 12:35 AM

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oh

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well i've already read contact harvest

craggy sierra Dec 31, 2020, 12:36 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dusk basin Dec 31, 2020, 12:36 AM

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just go to fall of reach anyway?

craggy sierra Dec 31, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Yeah

dusk basin Dec 31, 2020, 12:37 AM

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alright

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so cole protocol will actually be last huh

craggy sierra Dec 31, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Also if you were going to follow chronological I think the Forerunner trilogy should’ve technically been first.

dusk basin Dec 31, 2020, 12:38 AM

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i dont have the forerunner trilogy

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i mean i know what happens in it but ive just never read it

craggy sierra Dec 31, 2020, 12:39 AM

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But yeah that’s just a general rule of thumb. Release order is typically the intended order for following a story even if there is a chronological sequence of events

fair hazel Dec 31, 2020, 2:11 AM

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg 📎 image2.jpg 📎 image3.jpg 📎 image4.jpg

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Courtesy of @obsidian thistle

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The images of the colonies devastated by the guardian awakenings

cedar surge Dec 31, 2020, 2:36 AM

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From HtT?

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Actually why were the guardians left in the ground

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And not stored somewhere

gilded mason Dec 31, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Because Forerunners

obsidian thistle Dec 31, 2020, 2:49 AM

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cedar surge From HtT?

Halo 5 ;)

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Those appear in Halo 5 itself

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In the opening cutscene

stable flower Dec 31, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I notice the "FORERUNNER ACTIVITY" text. Sounds like the UNSC has developed some doctrines for Forerunner constructs afterall

shut dew Dec 31, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Serious question, could any Human really survive a five-year exchange program on Sangheilios if the UNSC established one?

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Provided that no external interruptions (like war) happened

versed helm Dec 31, 2020, 4:08 AM

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I didn’t know that the gravemind tortured the didact plus how did chief didn’t went insane when him and the gravemind chatted but the didact did, Ik that the flood can choose who to infect like was chief less of an asset then the didact?

spiral jewel Dec 31, 2020, 4:47 AM

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My guess is that it has something to do with his augmentation, plus... if I remember correctly from H2, John didn't say much to Gravemind, as he probably had multiple reactions going through his head.

gilded mason Dec 31, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Yeah, it's simply that they barely talked to each other and GM didn't try to persuade him of anything

spiral jewel Dec 31, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Plus John and GM probably didn't have anything really to discuss at the time

gilded mason Dec 31, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Yeah

shy plume Dec 31, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Gravemind probably had longer to talk to the didact and was a more disgusting figure that intimidated him

echo jay Dec 31, 2020, 5:44 AM

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When did the didact talk to the gravemind?

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Oh wait nvm

narrow wraith Dec 31, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Greetings Spartans

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I wish you all Spartans a Happy New Year 2021

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Wait for the release of Halo Infinite

stable flower Dec 31, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Do people hate the Yonhet because they're new?

gilded mason Dec 31, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I hate 'em because they look awful.

cedar surge Dec 31, 2020, 9:42 PM

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They look like humans with masks

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Next to every other alien that doesn't

terse lava Dec 31, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I 2nd Ostral's opinion. They look like cheap star trek aliens

last anchor Dec 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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shut dew Serious question, could any Human really survive a five-year exchange program on...

Sounds like Olympia Vale's dream life.

fair hazel Dec 31, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Their poor reception is basically the typical mask human thing

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Forerunners looking close to humans is way more okay and good I'd say due to the species connection.

last anchor Dec 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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We were both made by the Precursors werent we?

terse lava Dec 31, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Thats the claim so far I believe

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All known sapient life was crafted by the Precursors. Or at the least, guided

next fox Jan 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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If the precursors are the supposed masters and creators of the entire universe, why is the extent of the their power described as only “moving galaxies” and accelerating evolution of species?

ocean ibex Jan 1, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Probably because nobody knows the full extent of their power

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Pretty sure that’s how the writers intended it to be

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They tried to make the precursors a mysterious race and describing their full capabilities would’ve killed the theme for them

terse lava Jan 1, 2021, 2:04 AM

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They aren't even said to be the creators of the universe. Or the biggest fish for that matter. Halo: Warfleet mentions on the galaxy map page, of prisons crafted of crystallized time. Entombed within these are threats which neither Forerunner nor Precursor could defeat.

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Yeah, witch means the precursor couldn't have been the the beginning of life, because if they were, they'd have plenty of power to destroy anything

iron linden Jan 1, 2021, 3:53 AM

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was poopy joe killed by master chief?

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(serious question)

vapid willow Jan 1, 2021, 5:08 AM

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You know what they say, there's always a bigger fish.

stable flower Jan 1, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Rofl so people hate the Yonhet because they look human?

crude creek Jan 1, 2021, 5:34 AM

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Sanghelli are weird

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yeah i said it

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 5:43 AM

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stable flower Rofl so people hate the Yonhet because they look human?

You sound surprised.

cedar surge Jan 1, 2021, 6:11 AM

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I mean

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Compared to every other alien

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Barring the forerunners

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Who look so different compared to humans the yohnet are underwhelming

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:12 AM

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I completely agree.

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I was just surprised that he was surprised that people wouldn't look favorably on that.

stable flower Jan 1, 2021, 6:35 AM

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Yet people are fine with humanoid apes and insectoids.

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:39 AM

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Yet people are fine with humanoid apes
I ain't

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Brutes being basically apes nowadays sucks

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I want my rhino-bears back.

cedar surge Jan 1, 2021, 6:47 AM

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I don't recall brutes looking like humans with a funny face. Well they kinda do now but

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Also what's wrong with drones?

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The point of the argument is that the yohnet look way to much like humans

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Drones are probably the furthest from looking like a human

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:49 AM

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cedar surge I don't recall brutes looking like humans with a funny face. Well they kinda do ...

Remember when HW2 art literally just made them look like gorillas? 😔

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https://64.media.tumblr.com/5898f1bcbe150f0adc25cd5cd8d1ce52/tumblr_p1b62yip5H1t9x55so3_1280.jpg

cedar surge Jan 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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Wth

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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Yeah.

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It's awful.

cedar surge Jan 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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Are you sure they didnt just draw over a pre existing picture of a gorilla?

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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lol

cedar surge Jan 1, 2021, 6:55 AM

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Must be since there is a actual brute in the back

ocean ibex Jan 1, 2021, 7:39 AM

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terse lava They aren't even said to be the creators of the universe. Or the biggest fish fo...

Could you link an image if you can? I think that was a typo on their part

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 9:20 AM

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plot twist: unggoy are the begin of life and the merchant is the master with the 'toy' unngoy was what no other existent and present being could destroy

bold dew Jan 1, 2021, 9:21 AM

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Correct.

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 10:34 AM

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tbh if they had made the yonhet out as like some kind of diplomat caste race i think they'd be accepted more

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Sangheili language is now callled wortugese

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Do humans even celebrate Christmas in the Halo universe?

fair hazel Jan 1, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Yes

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 3:04 PM

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It's just something that's never been important to show in Halo media

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 3:19 PM

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do we know canonically any forerunner holidays

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 3:23 PM

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Not as far as I know

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 3:33 PM

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Have they ever been superstitious before?

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i mean they got the whole mantle thing, they GOT to be superstitious a bit

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I am not very familiar with their mantle system.

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 4:43 PM

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The Mantle is not a system

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It's a Forerunner belief

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Honestly, it's something that humanity should not adopt because it's not a good one

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 5:26 PM

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What does this belief entail?

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Basically that whichever race is the most advanced should rule over all the others by force. Not really a good thing to preach to people

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Halo would have concluded significantly earlier if the UNSC shared these ideologies.

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 6:07 PM

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The real mantle which was made by the precursers said one race would be fit to ensure bio-diversity in the galaxy

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 6:25 PM

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versed helm Halo would have concluded significantly earlier if the UNSC shared these ideolog...

Not really, the UNSC aren't as advanced as the Covenant, so if they did hold that belief, they'd still need something like what happened in the events of the original trilogy to survive the war

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 6:29 PM

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I was referring to a situation where the UNSC accepted that the Covenant were technologically superior to them.

unique rune Jan 1, 2021, 6:46 PM

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I mean... the UNSC was well aware of the tech gap.
It's not like they didn't acknowledge their superior control over slipspace travel, directed-energy weaponry, protective energy shielding...

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The issue is that the Covenant didn't have any particular regard for the Mantle of Responsibility (assuming they knew about it at all) and the existence of humanity and their status as reclaimers meant their entire system of belief was built on a shaky foundation of misinterpretation and falsehoods.

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:50 PM

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unique rune The issue is that the Covenant didn't have any particular regard for the Mantle ...

We have seen inert control surfaces spring to life at their human touch. The Oracle itself calls them “Reclaimers.” But what do they reclaim? These machines? These cities? These worlds? Or, as I fear, are they to reclaim the mantle we so terribly squandered? The responsibility the Forerunners left us was a magnificent one, but perhaps beyond our means and character. We are a greedy, squabbling lot. We clamber over each other for rank and privilege, and kill, maim, or betray for power.

The Forerunner mantle was one of responsibility, it seems. Perhaps we were intended to nurture rather than conquer. If the Halo array is what it appears to be, then it is a monstrous thing, a necessary evil. Left intact to save us should the parasite return.

unique rune Jan 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Ah, so they did know of its existence. Where's that bit from?

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Wages of Sin

unique rune Jan 1, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Oh, from the version of Evolutions that I didn't read. That would explain why I'd never heard of it.

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Yeah, dang rereleases.

ocean ibex Jan 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Are the flood capable of creating FTL traveling ships out of pure biomass? I don’t think the forerunner trilogy mentioned anything about that

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 7:05 PM

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It's highly unlikely the Flood are capable of creating FTL ships out of biomass

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And honestly, I hope that's never a thing

humble yacht Jan 1, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Yeah that’d be dumb

unique rune Jan 1, 2021, 7:15 PM

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meat boats

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Please don't ever say that ever again, Nova

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 7:15 PM

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meat boats

carmine sleet Jan 1, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Et tu, Ostral?

gilded mason Jan 1, 2021, 7:16 PM

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😎

cedar surge Jan 1, 2021, 7:32 PM

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It would be dumb in the first place for biomass ships to be faster than actual ships

ocean ibex Jan 1, 2021, 8:00 PM

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I assumed they had the knowledge to do so, if they accumulate the intelligence

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Being smart doesn’t let you make ships capable of 4th dimensional travel OUT OF MEAT

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Tell that to the Flood.

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 8:16 PM

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They haven’t done that

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Meat boats

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Did the Covenant ever build space elevators of their own?

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Most likely didn't need to - they had gravity lifts and stuff along with the fact they were more often on the offensive

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 8:23 PM

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What does being on an offensive have to do with planet side infrastructure?

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 8:24 PM

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No idea

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:25 PM

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I don't think that a gigantic gravity lift would be effective or safe.

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I wish that we had more information on the Lekgolo, other than what we already have on them

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Because the Lekgolo are pretty cool and interesting

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 8:26 PM

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We don't have much info on the covenant's non attacking side

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:26 PM

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We hardly ever see what the civilian side of the Covenant is like

unique rune Jan 1, 2021, 8:27 PM

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The Covenant had space elevators. Some were constructed at Zhoist and later destroyed by Blue Team during Op. Silent Storm.

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 8:27 PM

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oh.

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imagine caring about legends and a few books
can't relate

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:28 PM

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I wonder what ever became of Zhoist during the Great Schism

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Are the Ussans mentioned anywhere else besides Broken Circle?

unique rune Jan 1, 2021, 8:31 PM

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I don't recall seeing any mentions of them in other media.

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:31 PM

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That sucks, they were very interesting imho

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Didn't it say the Librarian and the Lifeworkers only managed to save at least 123 sentient species in the Ecumene?

midnight loom Jan 1, 2021, 8:33 PM

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No they saved less than half

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:35 PM

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And it probably depends on how many survived the events of the Greater Ark, how many successfully survived the Dark Times and successfully acclimated to the changed ecologies of their respective home planets

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And how many of them survived into the modern era

midnight loom Jan 1, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Yea

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:35 PM

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It still bothers me, the galaxy can't be reduced to just the former client races of the Covenant and humanity

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It just seems ridiculous

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 8:41 PM

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i'm assuming some life were creatures like animals and/or plants

humble yacht Jan 1, 2021, 8:42 PM

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Aside from a couple exceptions, plants aren’t sentient

uncut kernel Jan 1, 2021, 8:42 PM

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Some is a keyword

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but yes.

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 8:47 PM

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What was the name of that Forerunner planet in which the Flood first appeared?

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 8:47 PM

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uncut kernel imagine caring about legends and a few books can't relate

This is the lore chat

humble yacht Jan 1, 2021, 8:57 PM

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The flood first appeared on human worlds

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Since humans were the ones who found the powder and fed it to their pheru

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Did the Flood ever attempt to invent new technology?

cedar surge Jan 1, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Well they don't unless neural physics count

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They mostly just piggyback on which civilization they are infecting

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Since if they wanted better tech they could just infect a civilization to get it

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 10:13 PM

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what i wanna know is were the milky way precursors all of them or are there still precursors in other galaxys / nebula clouds/ etc

terse lava Jan 1, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Never said, but its likely the Milky Way Precursors were only one group among the countless in the universe

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 10:17 PM

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lol imagine a new precursor group coming in and seeing the current state of the galaxy and wondering what happened in several million years

terse lava Jan 1, 2021, 10:19 PM

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They might be curious, but that's it I figure

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 10:19 PM

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or angry. or heck, maybe them dying like that is like, part of the whole "sweetness" of the universe thing they got going

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 10:21 PM

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The precursors are most likely never coming back

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Cause really that would kinda break everything

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Like, they’re literally god.

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Nothing goes well for any story where you literally introduce god.

terse lava Jan 1, 2021, 10:22 PM

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They are merely god-like, demi-gods at best

versed helm Jan 1, 2021, 10:31 PM

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yeah, they definitely aint gods, as tbh their tech honestly didn't seem much more beyond weird biogenetic mastery outside of their weird neural physics FTL explanation. Honestly they're just really good biomancers and that's kinda it for the most part

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 10:36 PM

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When you start introducing entities that created our entire existence as a daytime hobby, you kinda start throwing the scale out of wack.

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Also I don’t care what they are, if they do that, they’re gods

terse lava Jan 1, 2021, 10:49 PM

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True, theie technology is advanced beyond belief and we know they created at least Humans and Forerunners.

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 11:05 PM

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But like there’s literally nothing you can do with re-introducing them into the modern universe.

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Like they’d either just fix every problem immediately if they’re friendly, kill everyone immediately if they’re hostile, or be completely ineffectual and do nothing if they’re neutral.

barren ferry Jan 1, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Brutes are capable of surviving flood outbreaks by themselves right?

craggy sierra Jan 1, 2021, 11:31 PM

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Technically anyone is if they’re able to shoot well enough

uncut kernel Jan 2, 2021, 12:15 AM

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The precursers probably didn't die.

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 12:17 AM

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terse lava Never said, but its likely the Milky Way Precursors were only one group among th...

Kind of find it odd that the precursors are 10x older than the universe yet they aren’t the actual creators of it?

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Kind of find it odd that the precursors are 10x older than the universe
Where was that part said again?

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Well, wasn’t it stated that the precursors are 100 billion years old?

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Or at least the domain contains 100 billion years of knowledge

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 12:40 AM

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ocean ibex Or at least the domain contains 100 billion years of knowledge

Yeah, that one. And I thought I heard somewhere that the Precursors simply made the "user interface" for the Domain, and they didn't actually make the Domain itself. Forgot where I heard that, though.

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 12:48 AM

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That’s, very interesting, maybe the domain is part of the living universe as a whole

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Not just encompassing 1 galaxy

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Yeah. Though I'd love to find where I read that so I can verify

terse lava Jan 2, 2021, 2:06 AM

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The domain itself contains the equivalent of 100 billion years of knowledge, this was said in Silentium by an infected Lord of Admirals imprint to the Librarianan. As for user interface, that would have been the Precursor AI, Abbadon, who helped ancient Forerunners access the domain with that user interface. That was said in Promises to Keep.

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@gilded mason

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:19 AM

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Do you just know everything @terse lava

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:23 AM

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Elite related I think

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Well that was precursor related

coral siren Jan 2, 2021, 6:37 AM

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Hello. What are Floods in reality? Are they a virus which infects, or are they an evolutionary organism?

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:39 AM

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A parasite.

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:44 AM

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They are originally from a precursor that was mashed into dust found on a derelict spaceship by humans(before they were wiped out by the forerunners) wayyyyy after the forerunners destroyed the precursers, they fed that dust to thier pet alien space cats or somethin and after a while it evolved to infect humans

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:48 AM

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It was the humans who fed the space dust to their pets

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Ancient humans

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:48 AM

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This is why we dont feed our animals space drugs kids

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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That got devolved into the humans of modern halo

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Mmm delicious precursor dust

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mccpizza

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Now the real question is. What color was it?

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Dust colour

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uny

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:50 AM

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How complex were the molecules for it to evolve and how would humans not notice? They wouldnt just give random space dust to their beloved pets

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Also, had the forerunners had a droid army theyd be fine.

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 6:51 AM

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they were ancient humans so who knows, they probably liked pineapple on pizza too so you know they were crazy

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:51 AM

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paper coyote Also, had the forerunners had a droid army theyd be fine.

They literally did

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 6:52 AM

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paper coyote Also, had the forerunners had a droid army theyd be fine.

theyre called the prometheans

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:52 AM

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The didacts composed Promethean army

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 6:52 AM

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the didact used the composer to convert humans into killing machines to help fight the flood

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:53 AM

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lofty anchor the didact used the composer to convert humans into killing machines to help fig...

He only used the humans to boost his numbers

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:53 AM

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There is only one way to stop the flood

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Revert back to monke

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:53 AM

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He composed his own forerunner troops first, they volunteered

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Oo oo ah ah

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 6:54 AM

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paper coyote Revert back to monke

lol literally, everyone had to start over, start from monke

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:54 AM

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Ancient humans weren't that ancient

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They were like the forerunners but less

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:54 AM

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They were acient

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They existed a long time s ago

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:55 AM

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Yes but not spear old ancient

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:55 AM

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But still ancient nonetheless

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:55 AM

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Why didnt they just nuke the flood infestations. Surely they had the technology for it.

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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They're called acient because they existed like, 100,000 years ago lmao

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Or was it 10 000

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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Well that's because the flood speeads so fast that's it

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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Because a nuke wouldn't of killed them all

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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Also they did try it

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With forerunner planets with flood on it

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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That's literally what caused the forerunner/human war.

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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That resulted in the human forerunner war

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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They tried blowing up stars just to stop small infestations

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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Humans nuking forerunner world's to try and stop the flood

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:56 AM

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And humanity getting devolved

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Only a single spore needs to survive for it to be a failure

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Wait...spore.......

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Mooshrooms...

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Ferns...

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Oh god

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:57 AM

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The rings starve the flood out

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Or outright destroy them

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:57 AM

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https://youtu.be/bznq4Zr2gTw @paper coyote

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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Its been a seesaw with either option

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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mccpizza

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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The forerunners never developed a weapon that targeted pure flood biomass

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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cedar surge Its been a seesaw with either option

I think the deal is that they destroy all the higher order Flood forms.

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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The rings were designed to starve the flood by killing all sentient life with a high functioning nervous system

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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Also did you know that unintelligent creatures like bear and stuff wouldn't die to a ring pulse

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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but the forerunner still decided to keep flood on the rings to study them

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Shush, Lance

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Lol

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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We do not speak of that silliness

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Which is most of life

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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postums

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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like, they did so much harm HOW ARE YOU GONNA KEEP THEM ALIVE

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Sthcience

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Also the reason why you never see unggoy infected forms

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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They knew they were gonna come back one way or another, it’s better to fight a known enemy than to fight unprepared

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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Yea real smart forerunners you killed off 2 percent of all life

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Actually no

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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Hold up......how long was the flood v forerunner war thing?

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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young mortar Also the reason why you never see unggoy infected forms

i thought they did get infected, just not in the games for gameplay reasons

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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300 years

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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Tbh so much of the food related lore can be summarised by "But actually, this is exactly what the flood wanted to happen all along."

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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A few decades

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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arent grunts smart enough to learn languages super quickly?

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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No i think the 300 years is HF

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Huh?

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:00 AM

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cedar surge No i think the 300 years is HF

Nah, 300 is Flood

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I think

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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I Remeber hearing it was for a millennia

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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It is

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Time to break out the halo mythos boys

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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I'll be back then

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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What is it in prison for

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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What's in prison

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:02 AM

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the halo mythos

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he said time to break out the halo mythos as if it were in prison

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:03 AM

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Oh I'm stoopid

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I'm pretty sure it lasted only three centuries

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:04 AM

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Alright boys

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Somewhere between 10,000,000 years and a few decades idk

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Where’d you get 10 million years from?

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Let's just say three centuries it sounds right

pale zephyr Jan 2, 2021, 7:05 AM

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At least 1

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:05 AM

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The entire time the forerunners existed

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Well technically 15 million years

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Alright, so how long was the devolved human v flood war?

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Wdym

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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I want statistics notable, statistics

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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You mean

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Unsc v flood?

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Mhm

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Less than 28 years

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Cause if you want to be technical about it

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Id say......

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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20 years

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From HW to H3

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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I was right

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Less than 28 years

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Since that's when unsc made contact

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Not offiically

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Technically

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Well, the time when the flood actually struck like big time

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Here we go

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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You mean like a outbreak?

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Mhm

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Then from CE to h3 is 4 months

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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How many causalities?

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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A few million humans and possibly billions of flood forms and gravmind

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Less than 23 billion human casualties

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Technically you are right

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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About 50 million covenant at least im sure

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Indeed I am

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:10 AM

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It is the single digit millions of humans who got infected

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:10 AM

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More covenant died than humans during the war

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Yea

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:10 AM

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cedar surge A few million humans and possibly billions of flood forms and gravmind

We've got some amount from the Autumn, some amount from IAC, and some human soldier stragglers from Voi. Where are ya getting a few million?

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:10 AM

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7 billion covenant in HC

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All infected

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To flood

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Yeas cos the cannon fodder grunts accounted for like 60% of the covenant casualties

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Actually no the flood didn't loose those billions of flood forms

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:11 AM

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I thought high charity only supported 50 million?

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:11 AM

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That's the city in h2

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That's the upper level city

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Most residents live bellow

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:12 AM

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High Charity had about 8 billion people living there

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:12 AM

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In the slums

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Due to ATN its revealed that chief destroying the generators actually didn't kill HC

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And the pulse at the end of 3 didn't wipe the flood inside

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Which is BS.

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Everything should have died.

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Yeah, not really a fan of that

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Also in sacrifice the pulse also didn't kill the remaining covenant in the keyship

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Tip

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No cursing

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:13 AM

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freaking?

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Sure

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:13 AM

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I changed it to "freaking". Still got deleted.

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Autobot

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Roll out

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Though yea that pulse at the end of three was super weak

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Oops forgot

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:14 AM

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At this point, a pulse probably didn't even happen

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:15 AM

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A heavy wind probably

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:15 AM

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I'll go with weakened pulse due to an unfinished ring.

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:15 AM

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But heres the real question. Weve seen the covie military force. But where is the economy? Sure high charity but it only seems rich folk are there along with workers and such. Weve seen some encampments on sanghelios in halo legends. What about other cities and such. Because even though theres a great journey, you know theres not enough force to build a massive thing or city to carry all of covenantkind(civilians), so what about space stations? Covies that were left behind deep in the cosmos?

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:15 AM

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The covenant is still a civiliaztion

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:15 AM

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There's massive amounts of infrastructure, yes.

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 7:15 AM

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Good question

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:16 AM

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That is a curious question, isn't it? What's Covenant economy like?

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:16 AM

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Its just that we seen military battles

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:16 AM

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They have a massive economy compared to the UNSC

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:16 AM

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Unfortunately we don't know much

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:16 AM

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Let's get that culture book, 343...

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:16 AM

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Most of its lore is elite lore or prophet lore

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:16 AM

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We do know that after the war, some Elites became mercenaries.

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Yea

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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And accept....human money?

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Ive only ever heard of one space station aside from high charity and that was a military one the peanut shaped one

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Which is weird.

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Money can be exchanged

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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You mean uneven elephant?

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Unyielding Herophant.

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Also how does Cr translate to geks

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Also that's what's Johnson says

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Dunno

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Geks? What about no mans sky?

tacit pecan Jan 2, 2021, 7:18 AM

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Semi-Perfect Cell: I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS!!

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:18 AM

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That's covenant money

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UNSC which is the military branch of of the UEG money is Cr

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:18 AM

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Yo imagine covenant vrchat

cedar surge Jan 2, 2021, 7:18 AM

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Or credits

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Did covenant have video games?

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Very likely

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Did they have covenant anime?

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:19 AM

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No.

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:19 AM

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No

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Covenant waifus at least?

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Heck no.

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Def no

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Oh misses ul-da-theme-alreme-vadma-rtas-chan

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:20 AM

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wut

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:21 AM

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Did covenant ever yknow crossbreed?

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:22 AM

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Impossible

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:22 AM

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I mean.....pleasurable

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:22 AM

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Would be statistically very likely, in that case

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Oh god now im just imagining unggoy and sangheili bouncing cloacas

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Yeah no, this isn’t the place for that kind of talk

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:23 AM

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I'd respond to that further, but...yeah that

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:24 AM

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You think humans have ever tried to flirt with covies?

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:24 AM

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Of course

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:24 AM

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You think there are covie hillbillies?

gilded mason Jan 2, 2021, 7:24 AM

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They're called the 'Mdamas.

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:25 AM

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Imagine arbiter breakdancing

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:25 AM

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what is the covenant equivalent of crack cocaine

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:26 AM

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Unggoy poo

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That or those weird narcotic machines grunts use

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:27 AM

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food nipple?

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:27 AM

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Kind of

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I heard other covies use it too

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Kind of like those methane breathers but different i think

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:28 AM

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oh ive never heard of anything like that

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:31 AM

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Anybody have an exact number how many tons of tnt a CCS can take ?

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Wat dat

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Wut it dew

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:32 AM

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i think he means corvette class supercarrier

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Depends

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How thick is the purple armor?

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How far in are the vital systems?

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Whats the energy shield rating?

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:34 AM

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There is no such thing as “energy shield rating”

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:34 AM

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What kind of tnt we talkin? Like tricylocetaline or whatever its called or c4?

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:34 AM

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Also most of the numbers we see are pretty vague

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And I just realized my question is irrelevant

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Lets say the ccs is 80% hollow.

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Lets say only 10% of the 20% is the shielding

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Then lets say about 30% of its is wire or whatever the stuff is.

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Now lets deduce the alloy

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Hmmmmm

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Zeus you take care of this

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So i think about 4 pounds of tnt produces 10 million joules of force

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Or enough to blow up a car

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So if a ccs is like what? 5 km?

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Whats the width and height though?

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 7:38 AM

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Dude, don’t waste your time trying to answer an irrelevant question

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:39 AM

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cant tell if he's joking or not

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:39 AM

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So lets use math in a square space to determine the volume

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In a square space id estimate its fills 55-60%

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Its height is about a ninth or eighth of its length

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Now its width i believe is about a sixth or fifth based on the pictures provided in the halo mythos

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Tico gimme the length for a ccs

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So if we times the width by the height by the length

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We get our square space

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(The square space is just how it fits into a box with its parameters)

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:45 AM

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dude idk

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:46 AM

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So if it only takes up 55-60% percent of that space

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We multiply

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Then we multiply it by the solid 20% percent because 80% is hollow

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And then we get our.......something...

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Of course after we rule in other factors such as the materials that is made of and the amount of space inside the ship, where is the mass most condensed and so on

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So one unit in the square space is lets a meter cubed

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Lets say a ccs is 10 km

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2 km in width

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And 1 km in height

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 7:51 AM

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this man

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:51 AM

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Multiply, we have a rectangle thing

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So if it fills only about 50% of that we multiply the percentage

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Its takes up 10 km³ units

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Do the thing again lets say its 70% percent hollow this time

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3 km³ units

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Lets say our alloy density is roughly that of gold, so 19.63 m/d i think i havent done that in a long time

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And that alloy only makes up 10% percent of our 30% (the armor plating)

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So we find the mass of the alloy

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Lets see 10% of 3 km³ units...

unique rune Jan 2, 2021, 7:58 AM

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i think he means corvette class supercarrier
I feel like it’s worth pointing out that “corvette” and “supercarrier” are pretty much a direct contradiction.
Corvettes are among the smallest of warship types, while supercarriers... well, they’re called super for a reason.

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 7:58 AM

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0.3 km³ units i believe

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So we have the volume of our alloy.

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Lets find the mass

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How do i do this again? M÷V?

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D÷V or V÷D?

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So 300 m³ divided by 19.63 i believe

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@lofty anchor break out the calculator

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 8:02 AM

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hol up

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15.2827

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 8:03 AM

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Do the exponents

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I think

lofty anchor Jan 2, 2021, 8:03 AM

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i just did 300*19.63

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 8:05 AM

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Lets just say per cubic meter the alloy is one metric ton. Whats a metric ton worth? Im american

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So 300 metric tonnes or something like that

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Now lets move onto interior alloy

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Lets say it makes up....40% of the inside

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So 3 km³ 40% is.....1.2 km³?

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So 1200 m³ yadda blah blah is worth 1200 metric tonnes something idk

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Lets just say tons instead of metric tonnes

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So our alloy in the ship is...1500 tons?

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Lets just say its 1 million tons

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Because of the titanic weighs over 100,000 tons....hold up

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Lets just say our ships alloy is worth about 15 million tons

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In fact lets just say the ship itself weighs 20 millions tons

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So....id say about one pound of tnt if you blow it up in the right spot in the reactor @ocean ibex maybe the control panel

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 8:21 AM

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Did you all that for nothing, just to say the most obvious thing @paper coyote

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That in the right spot any amount of tnt can blow it up

ocean ibex Jan 2, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Jesus...

paper coyote Jan 2, 2021, 8:42 AM

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young mortar Did you all that for nothing, just to say the most obvious thing <@780286545768...

Maybe 😏

versed helm Jan 2, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Is the Siege Bike a canonical vehicle?

young mortar Jan 2, 2021, 2:00 PM

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It has been confirmed to be canon

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It's manufactured by ONI REAP-X

obsidian thistle Jan 2, 2021, 3:17 PM

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REAP-X is weird