#lore-and-universe
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It gets funnier when humans aren't allowed on elite worlds
@versed helm
I mean specifically the refugees
swords of sangheili? aren't they the arbiter's boys?
Yes
Swords of sanghellios
Yeah but there's the saying that not all of them are bad, the jackals and grunts though have to be just hated
Not all jackals and grunts are bad
Grunts aren't hated
Jackals are good boys
No cursing
the jackals are all pirates arent they?
And jackals work with humans
Bro all jackals are bad, they are thugs and savages
the jackals are all pirates arent they?
aaaaaa
Not all of them
There not that bad
Stolt literally beat the crap out of an unnamed spartan 3
Its speciesofhats all over again
It was a 4
The Spartan type was never said
3s have there dignity
Just like not all humans are the same goes gor other species
Not all brutes are blood thirsting majiacs
Just like not all humans are the same goes gor other species```
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Ahh, I must’ve read something wrong
Th-That can't build barns
I think your pushing human emotions onto jackals, something very dangerous
Or swim
Beat me to it
Or grunts are stupid methane breathing crab monkeys
No
They are not all pirates
Not all of them are thugs
All covenant species are physically superior to humans
I'm not pushing anything
Yes
Its common sense
Ye
Except the ones in night fall
They are not a hive mind
Jackals man, tell me one good thing about them
There raptors
Beuriful feathers
even brutes have some honor
Great sniper
Jackals man, tell me one good thing about them```
They're cute
They’re delicious
Mhhhhmmm
Jackals do not all feel the same
Some of them even felt bad having to betray their human friends in the Cole protocol
They were basically forced to
They are not a hive mind
Then again they were gonna genocide the grunts
Some were, at least
Sterile the race
I really hate The species of hats trope
Same
Me too
Where a whole species must have one personality
Like the kilgans from star trek
That's what there called?
Then again almost all San shyuum are manipulating evil old guys
Nope, they’re just shells of their former species
I say almost because there was a nice one in halo broken circle
Who were also manipulating evil elders
As in the ones from warhammer
Spartan?!?
Nope, again their ancient ancestors were very noble and physically superior to most other species
I imagine most were just beaurocrats just going about their lives.
Well in Rtas book one realised the error of his way acredeemed himself
Spark is just a racist
Spark is a computer
A racist computer
I don't recall any examples of that, but I believe you.
spark is like that tay ai
lol
Halo 5?
I meatn regarding her being racist
Cortana and here ais ruling the galaxy
The didact
Far cry 3?
From Kilo-5
Ewwwwwwwwww
Eyup
So what's your favorite book in that trilogy?
Uh
"They should fear us"
Gotta be something
I like the book where the pain ends
The ending
Maybe Mortal Dictata, if only because there's no more stupid as heck destabilization plot. Though there's still other dumb stuff in it
"He is justified mass killing billions of people because ONI took his daughter"
As well as trying to rewrite canon just so Halsey can be hated more.
Mahhh daughter
Yes because one man in a dinky winky covenant ship could kill all of earth
"Genocide is good as long as the guys I like are doing it"
You know mortal dictata reminds me of the plot of sonic adventure 2
That reminds me...
I love this Halsey sass from Shadows of Reach
Halsey’s natural limb had been amputated a year and a half earlier, after she was wounded during an ONI assassination attempt ordered after Halsey dared to think for herself one time too many.
Palmer saw Halsey first and rolled her eyes in exasperation. Halsey smiled and raised her prosthetic arm in greeting. It had been Palmer—acting on orders from ONI’s commander-in-chief—who had made the shot during the unsuccessful assassination attempt. Halsey delighted in every available opportunity to remind the Spartan-IV of her failure.
Waving around her prosthetic arm
I will everyone because a few people caused the death of my daughter
She seems to have forgotten commiting treason
Man halsey is the greatest taunter ever
That was after the attempt
When Palmer dies halsey is going to toss her robo arm in her grave
Well she was trying to get the janus keys
And stop jul
She even gave thorn the other half
That should have been a huge hint she was still on there side
Then again it was serin in charge aka paragonksy's personal pet
hmm
Well, Miranda did dual wield Shotgun and Magnum pistol. Although she never did fire any rounds of it.
It should be standard for what Spartans do, lol. They see mostly CQC, so it makes a lot more sense for them to employ it at the expense of accuracy
They’ll be scoring precision headshots either way
I’m still petty about Reach abandoning it all together. It was acceptable for ODST (they had to make it somewhat less Spartan-like), but why Reach? Why did 343 continue the trend?
Kids really are geniuses sometimes. Not that they should cater to them (after all, I loved the idea of playing a mature game like Halo), but they are on the mark with their desires to fly Pelicans, play as grunts and hunters, dual wielding Assault rifles and energy swords..
Why not?
You can't handle the recoil of two weapons that require the use of two hands
Its not like the smg where they are small
They are big weapons that require too hands to keep steady
Is there any AR weapon that got less recoil?
Balancing, duel wielding was always a pain to balance
Or maybe at a caliber of SMG for recoil.
Dual wielding with an a. Palmer dual wields pistols though
wait this is the lore channel?
why are you asking about game mechanics in lore chat? i thought this was #471742309994594326 
Did you see me talk about Palmer and realize that?
i was still addressing Lance
I know but did I make you realize
no
Palmer and her dual wielding in shadows of reach
i wonder what the range of Cortana's avatars is
can she make a hardlight avatar anywhere or does she need to be in range of some sort of holographic generator
no
i think she exists in the domain
but thanks to forerunner hardlight technology, she can generate hardlight avatars that can interact with the physical world
the question is whether she can manifest anywhere or does she need some forerunner tech nearby
Do we know where maethrillian is
no
well
we don't have exact coordinates
iirc the book said it's near the center of the galaxy
so i just got the cutscene with ghost lady and didact
in halo 4 and i have no clue what that was just about
Well yeah
so didact wanted to kill humans ages ago so they imprisoned him?
Didact want to enslave them
Sounds like you need to rewatch it
Nah he's right
and Didact was a result of being infected by Logic Plague by the gravemind
The cutscene expects you to read the book
oh 😦
What's the book it references to?
The cutscene doesn't require you read the novels
whats the ghost lady name?
it gives the bare minimum context
so i can find the cutscene to rewatch it
she's the Librarian
His wife
how did didact escape?
chief let him out
how?
did you play H4?
im during halo 4 now
You literally watch him do it
i just met librarian
you might need to pay more attention
He was tricking you
🤦♂️
How long ago did you start H4?
Chief accidentally freed the Cryptum as Didact is exploiting Infinity's signal.
yesterday
Oh dear
The communications thing?
i have no clue what you just said @slim thorn
Did you start it from the beginning?
...Huh.
Yeah. Didact exploit the COMs between 117 and Infinity
It was fairly explicit.
who is infinity?
Did you skip a cutscene?
UNSC Infinity
i hope not
Yep
starting to think this may be a poor attempt at trolling
Feels like it
Or maybe he's just skipping it
but why did didact wait this long?
and not do it earlier when chief went to those planets for flood.
No visitors for over hundreds of years
He had no way else?
I think you should understand the story while watching the cutscenes
Rather than just woo woo and waiting for it to be done
i was
but what i thought was
u know when the ship they said it was inside the planet
i thought maybe it managed to get outside quickly
then it decided to go back in
It was
No, it was outside the Requiem while 117 and Cortana must stop Infinity from entering it or they will be caught by the Gravity Well
who is infinity?
It was a signal trick by the Didact to make John and Cortana think it was inside.
Yep trolling
We just told you
As said by Cortana several times in-game, it's a big UNSC ship
oh the ship
A ship
I think you need to take a look at every inch of UNSC Starship
Or perhaps he didn't get much understanding
It was literally in your face for a minute straight
^
Like the crash was long
And if he already met Librarian, he's even been inside it
i forgot the name of the ship thats it...
also i thought the forerunners greatest enemy was the flood
You remember the name of the ship in 3 ?
The librarian was being nice
I feel the Librarian saying that was a bit of a mistep
It was obviously a lie
i thought that she was saying chief was made out of flood dna for a few seconds cant lie lol
because then they show pictures of a black goo and dna
are they related/inspired in any way?
The Forerunner were played by the Flood.
the forerunner were played by the flood?
i thought forerunners killed themselves just to get rid of flood?
Yes
Ye, the forerunner thinks that human has a cure for the flood, but in reality the Flood withdraws to make Forerunners think.
That's not considered a win
(which they didnt even get rid of)
Triggering human-forerunner war
And the humans got burned
wait a sec... couldn't the forerunners just do to themselves whatever they did to didact to survive?
and devolved as a punishment
but he survived the forerunner killeveryonetogetridofflood thing
Didact's authority on the military was high, akin to UNSC's Fleet Admiral.
Yes
That's because he was imprisoned inside Shield World.
and rest of forerunners are dead
Because he was in a cryptum
and Shield World basically shields everyone from the Halo Array.
they should have improsoned themselves in a shield world to survive?
A cryptum locks a person out of time thus making them immune to the halo effect
Not just a cryptum but anyone living inside the Shield World will be also immune
Cryptum was only a prison
hmm they spent a thousand lifetimes making chief but couldn't spare a few hours to think about how to survive the flood.. they dumb.
No remember requiem wasn't in slipspace
.....
That's why the cryptum protected him
It's funny because even a halo uses time as a defense
Does anyone know how fast the Halo Array can fire?
No exact speed was recorded, isn't it?
technically the pulse fires so fast, it can be seen in the past
That scene was wack
Basically it's at the point where it's too fast to care about how fast it fires
I 've already fired the halo somewhere
There's only 1 mystery left, the crew of Everest along with the Commander of Third Fleet
Is it possible for them to sleep inside Cryopods?
But then that also means the crew also decided to abandon the unsc too?
How many of them would be willing to leave the rest of the unsc to die?
There would probably be some disagreement aboard
Unless the Ship got a Shipboard AI that issues an order to have the ship out of slipspace
Err I mean if Everest got an AI housing it. It will be weird to keep the ship stays at slipspace for a long time.
Well they have to exit somewhere
Let alone they even didn't raise a distress call
SoF can remain operational for 28 years
Only essential crew are awaken from time to time for routine maintenance
Theoretically a halo array’s light could be seen from other galaxies in a couple million years
Is slipspace safe from the halo array?
No
If slipspace was safe couldn't havecthe flood fleets just escapped to it
the only reason chief survived H3 is because he made it through the portal before the pulse reached him
Maybe they didn’t know how to operate it at the time
flood be like
Hmmm
Hmmm
It is safe, the halo array’s beam has no affect over slispace
what is the best level in halo 3 odst
Not Mombasa streets
im planning on building a new mombasa diorama out of lego from halo 3 odst or halo 2
I think maybe Dutch's level? Where he is fighting the covenant in a wartjog and the space elevator falls down
that one is pretty cool
All precursor constructs and structures were destroyed
There is no evidence of their existence
I have no idea how a few people at oni even know what they were
The only thing UNSC have left is at Zeta Halo
I'm sure Zeta halo houses files regaring Precursor
Well yea they reclaimed reach for 10 to 30 minutes before cottsna took it away from them
how tf does cortana come back in 5?
im not gonna play it any time soon until it comes to pc.
so if its possible explained in a spoilers but no major spoilers way
in halo 5 she comes back ||as a rampant AI|| (cortana spoilers) due to some techy techy forerunner malarkey
You cant really explain her return without spoiling anything
and it's honestly not v memorable
Meh, halo 5’s story was a complete mess
It was poorly executed
quite
Cortana reveal was wayyy to early
truuuuu
Juul Pod Madame should have been around for at least like half the story, not just a single cutscene
Yea it's kind of the whole story doe
Halo 5 would've been decent without fireteam osiris
blue team would have slaughtered osiris
It was nothing like the marketing suggested
Nah osiris was okay
It's just too much osiris
Buck was the only good one in my opinion
i loved the idea of ONI going after Chief and portraying him as a war criminal and terrorist, it was such interesting marketing and a new take on the story
there should have been less osiris, and more focus on the reasoning behind portraying chief as a terrorist to the public
Idk the characters of osiris just get on my nerves a lil
Other than that they're okay
They actually threw out the terrorist chief plot line
which mad sucks
I'm pretty sure how she came back got explained in a comic
Dominion Splinter kinda explained it.
Mostly what she did after getting to Genesis and into the Domain though.
Most of what you need to know is stated in the game.
Mantle's Approach wreckage exits slipspace near Genesis, somehow Cortana found her way into the Domain, etc.
That was a dumb move of them
The didact should have been the baddie
It was literally the build up of 4
But it was wasted
Like jul
Yea
trueee. the didact shouldn't have died in 1 game, he could totally have been the next tartarus
Actually he died in a comic
But Tartarus died in one game
F
I miss him everyday.
Big monke Tartarus
F
The Mohawk Tartarus
Actually a lot of halo villians die in a single game?
He was harambes second coming
All without one dimensional characters
Mercy and regret
Tartar sauce
The heretic
The gravemind was kinda killed in 2
And the didact
Cortana uses some sort of shielding
how can cortana touch chief?
Hardlight
The little tiny Cortanas touched Didact so I believe she did something like that
Cortana used the hardlight on the bridge
Any ways wasn't cortana's chip destroyed?
Crushed by the didact?
but how can cortana feel it
me reading the wiki just says it should be just like objects
m a g i c
Her chip was like... digitized
what?
He destroyed the terminal she was in
oh
That was made of hardlight
Downloading her in or something
I have no idea how she survived
and im gonna assume she turned into an actual person in 5
No
cuz the librarian ghost lady was saying the thing was made to make ai into people and people into ai
She's just an immortal evil ai now
Yes
or was that bad cortana acting nice?
The one in 5 is probably rampant
Its hinted in a comic
Dominion splinter
That has here rampant selves tricking the warden into accessing the domain
How did they distract him ?
The same way halsey outsmarted a forerunner contender class ai
Plot
That's something you'd see in comedy sketch
So a forerunner AI could only focus on one thing
Wouldn't any unsc ai be able to outsmart a forerunner ai if that's the case?
BB talking to cortana while behind her Roland is bringing up his hammer
Halo 6 ending leaked
well, cortana is an AI specializing in intrusion
also, it's worth noting that even the Didact referred to her as an "evolved ancilla"
That's weird?
which seems to suggest that to the Didact, Cortana was special even among all the AI he had encountered. And he knew about MB
Since I doubt shes better than a monitor
the monitors weren't technically AI
both Cortana and the Warden considered the Composed to not be true Created
it's the same principle
the monitors for the halos were all composed, as far as we know
Do they call monitors or hint at them?
Tragic Solitude was a forerunner who composed himself into a monitor for the ark
Exuberant Witness is unknown
Because most people only think knights when they hear composed
Yeah wanted to be come an ai
Forerunners had many ways to make AI and Monitors
And the composer was a recent invention
not that recent
Wasn't it also regarded as failed
it was a failure at trying to cure people of Flood infection
Forerunners warriors also had a custom of preserving the last essences of dead foes for study and interrogation and preservation
Uggghhhhh
Like seriously let the dead rest
also, "evolved" doesn't necessarily mean strong
She has emotions?
so just because didact called her evolved doesn't mean he's saying she could 1v1 a forerunner AI
Dumb AIs don't have real emotions
at most, they simulate emotion
Smart AI, on the other hand, do have emotions (if they want to)
Forerunners were probably beyond dumb ai
well
Bornsteller at age 12
I doubt a Forerunner's armor ancilla had the capacity for emotion
imagine if Didact's armor just decided not to work because it was angry
why don't you reference the section where a forerunner's armor AI displayed emotion
Yah I don;t get why he called her an evolved ancilla - Forerunner ancilla were far beyond her capabilities
I don't really have the book on me
Then again the ai was the librarians
Because she was manipulating him
He did get another ai
But she didn't really talk because she didn't know how to help him
Oh hey I think I re-found (as I knew they existed and lost the source) one of the most "out there" and obvious "non-canon" Halo things ever. xD
The two Cyclops rebuild sets from 2016. xD
They have no name xD
Man you can tell they regret building that
I personally love them xD
Someone sure got paid for making those.
Whatever they are.
There is also the UNSC Chicken Walker (a thing I seriously hope is canon) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP0D1_1W4AE0ivk?format=png
Halo needs more Walkers. (A guilty pleasure from Star Wars that is)
At least it ain't the unsc walker that looks like it was made in space engineers
Wait they actually call it chicken walker
Fun fact thats the only "rebuild" with a name. Making it the only rebuild to be potentially canon aha. (I'd say its ambiguous atm however)
If grunt goblins get to get in the chicken walker should also get in
Every one loves walkers
Cept boring peoplr
People who don't like metal gears
Man the colossus is absolutely massive
What's not to love about nuclear death machines
Its the largest ground vehicle in the entire unsc
You saw its blitz card right?
Is wayyyyy bigger
There is a mega mantis in 4
I was talking about the one in HW
I know
Mega mantis v scarab please?
The Colossus?
Yea
HW2
The one in halo wars 2
The Colossus is canon
The mega mantis is not
Oh that is canon also
From 4
No he talking about mega Mantis
Really ?
Yea
The HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark II [D] Armor Defense System, sometimes known colloquially as the mega-Mantis, is a powered exoskeleton developed by the Materials Group. It is part of the HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL lineage, which began with the suit-like Mark I and later produced the Mark IX "Mantis". Like the Mantis, it is armed with a multi-barreled cannon...
It got specs
Holy hell
It's actually called the mega mantis!!!!!
Why was this bad boy not in HW2?
Cause the Colossus be cooler
Nah
I want to see a mech battle between unsc and banished forces
The mantis is wayyy cooler
Full on brawl
I like the Breacher Exosuit the banished have.
I like most HW2 banished stuff
Wasn't that a mega construcx?
They got some awesome stuff
I can't wait for a lot of those units to be used in infinite
Yup. I am a supporter of Mega Construx lore. 😉
Nice
Mega construx is like a lifeline to any infinite stuff
Why was this bad boy not in HW2?
I mean... going off the designation of the Colossus... it kinda is.
In a way.
I think we are getting desperate for any lore
All the water is gone
I hope we see some of Hyperius soon. 😄
We really don't have anything about that guy
Besides Palmer helmet
And locke
Oh boi
No Palmer helmet.
You think disruptors are made specifically to kill Spartans?
That was a misconception
Its Locke helmet
I'll stick to saying "Hunter helmet" for now.
Yeah
Plus it could be just another Spartan but its a specific helmet for a specific character
Nothing says Locke atm bar familiarity.
It's smells like another Jul situation
Heroic sacrifice in the first 5 minutes while saying he respects chief
Please nooooo
Stop
All the while chief is being cool
So is onyx okay?
Last I heard it just went into slipspace
You mean the UNSC and SoS. 😉
Or was that the first book
It went into slispace at the end of Legacy, yes
The SoS is like the classmate that did all the work but lets the unsc have some if the credit
lol
Its kinda funny that there just kicking back
While the entire galaxy is basically getting enslaved
Doesn't onyx have some forerunner ships in it?
I think so?
You think cortana is hunting for shield worlds?
No clue
Since a bunch of them have forerunner ships
Maybe to reactivate still dormant guardians?
They can't make her too powerful
Remember we need a realistic way to defeat her
Forerunner mcguffin vs badly introduced villain
Quest started:the Flood always wins
Even when they lose
So did keyes help halsey scout out Spartan cadets?
Because it's in the fall of reach animation
And I don't remember if that was in the book
I'm pretty sure Keyes accompanied her on the visit to Eridanus II in the novel.
Nah, Halsey kept it secret from him. Partly because she wanted to give him deniability.
Even in a top-secret organization like ONI, you've gotta keep secrets from certain people.
Am pretty sure bringing your husband to spy on kids at a school on another planet is pretty sus
But is hunt the truth still canon tho?
Because 5 threw everything including the sink outside
5 just doesn't make sense with hunt the truth canon?
In HTH he's already seen as gone rogue
But in 5 its all good
He just wants his blue lady back
And the unsc doesn't like that
Uh no, it makes perfect sense. Did you not even listen to all of it?
Oni are jerks?
Always one step a head of you
Unless your in kilo 5 trilogy were they just become stupid?
He's fine and wasn't actually even declared rogue
Well smart AI have a seven year life span before they’re terminated
Yes
The reason why the UNSC wanted to terminate cortana was because she was pass seven years life span I believe
It's like that was one of the plot points of the game
😝
But yes 7 years and an ai goes crazy
Cept they kept a AI in stasis past her lifespan because she pleaded
Daily lore fact
The main reason why the forerunners were able to fire the halo rings was because offensivebias held back a large flood attack buying enough time for the rings to be lit
Think likely a book
I also wonder if spark will return in game
Or if he'll only be stuck in the EU
Him meeting chief again would be pretty interesting
He killed Johnson He doesn’t deserve to come back
Baston?
A place in 5
On genesis?
It was in an audio log in 5
On the genesis level
It's pretty mysterious
And it's hinted that forerunners might be there
Living
Didn't some of Jul covenant think they were in some heaven when they got to genesis?
Maybe
Soo are all elites in the banished basically mercenaries?
Because I can't think of another reason elites would join the banished
A largely brute faction
Then again atriox used talk no justu to convince both a team of silent shadows and a ship master that was trying to kill him during the covenant war to join him
Half his stats are in charisma
And who can blame them
He is the best looking brute since reach
Isn't his face like you know not in the best shape?
He's still cute
Could be worse
It could've been halo reach brute
Remembers the brute in envoy
So was let's backstory retconed?
Because in the game he's apparently hired by atriox
While in the comic he joined atriox's banished after being persuaded
It could be considered being "hired" in the comic
So does that mean that the silent shadow were also "hired" as well
I dunno lol
Every one in the comic seems to have different characters from there game counterparts
I literally called decimus another name because he came off as an entirely different character
Book Atriox,comic atriox,and game Atriox might as well be different characters
why is the first thing I see in here Ostral complimenting Castor's tusks?
...yeah, you're right. I should be used to this by now
That's the spirit. 👌
ayo mayo
I want to be as tall as kurt
@terse lava I can't help but read your lines with an elite voice in my head
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what was master chief doing onboard the PoA? how did he end up there after the fall of reach
that's where he and the other spartan IIs were stationed as part of Operation: Red Flag. Once Reach was attacked, Keyes was forced to return to the planet to help.
I recommend reading Halo: The Fall of Reach book. (Or at a push the comic despite the deviations near the end) :) Gives that tale plus then some!
Anyone know the reason why the covenant can’t just, you know, go around UNSC fleets?
because they don't want to
Don't the covenant usually do that?
Kill the fleet in the space
Then massacre everyone left on the planet?
I mean that's basically what they did every time
Except the rarevtimes where the unsc have enough forces go push em bacj
Like at meridian tribute and mars
And Luna
Wait a minute when the covenant glassed regrets position in 2 did they know he was there or that chief was there?
Like how did they know he died so fast?
good question
Was his ship that glassed the area?
Well I assume truth knew
Because even if the chief died it would ensure regret was dead
Like how mercy's chair lasers were deactivated
truth was looking for an excuse to get rid of regret, anyway
Isn't it funny that the all the main villians of halo are giant control freaks
The gravemind
The prophets , especially truth
The didact
The precursors
Even atriox
He's just chaotic
the precursors were not control freaks
they were either neutral or chaotic
possible true neutral
Didn't they get corrupted because they got angry there creations attacked them?
Despite the fact there immortal
And death means nothing to them
Also its implied that they may have exterminated the other candidates for the mantle because they didn't live up to standards
And the forerunners were just the latest victims on the list
that was just the forerunners' fears
Its never proven or disproven
they struck first out of that fear, but there is nothing to say that the precursors would have actually destroyed them
Well probably never know
And that's probably a pretty good thing
One of the mysteries of the past
hello!
What
Should I use spoiler tags when I talk in here?
not necessary
I don't know what a spoiler tag is
||this||
Ahhhhhhhhhh! The newest ONI Intel thing!
that's always fun
Oh yea
Over four years after successfully defeating the Covenant and saving humanity from unimaginable horrors, the Master Chief and Cortana would face their greatest challenge yet, confronting dangers that combined a long-buried past with an uncertain future.
Connect with us!
Web: https://halowaypoint.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Halo
...
Halo 4 with a picture of halo 3
it recaps the end of H3 first
This got me like, feeling excitement and worry and all of that ins ide
Maybe chills I dont know
Certainly excitement
hello
I hope the comms guy is alright
The Guardian pulse going off and him in a shuttle did not sound good
When has anything involving a guardian ever ended well
That's honestly horribly true
You know after watching some gameplay of 4 and the earlier games I totally understand that 4 feels more like a reboot
Art style wise
The weapons on the dawn have completely different designs
The dawn itself is a completely different ship
The covenant look uglier for some reason
Chief's armor changes for no reason
And unsc ships look really different
The forerunner stuff to me is ok
The Infinity doesn't look that different from a bigger PoA
Yea the infinity is the most unsc looking post war ship
Autumn class doesn't count since its just the halcyon Cept bigger
But stuff like the vindication and Posiden
And the anlace class is the worst offender
The infinity looks like a giant railgun
Infinity looks smaller in Halo 4's Shutdown level
probably just a perspective thing
Well so does the mantles approach
All unsc ships look like foot long subs
Maybe a candy bar
Picked up a copy of the Walmart edition of SoR today.
Might read it over the coming holiday.
Oh ONI archives mentioned operation Wolfe
Along with two other i don't recognize
Wolfe is what the operation blue team is doing in SoR s called
i can't imagine ONI was aware of what operation wolfe entailed
considering that Lasky didn't
They let the operation happen without really knowing what it was about
They must put a lot of trust in halsey
i mean
how they gonna stop her? 
ONI is probably a shell of its former self
even Chief was like "what's left of ONI"
also, I imagine that ONI is aware that Halsey's connection to Cortana makes her uniquely suited to understanding how best to try and beat her
They were also talking about "her" in the second part. Think its a new AI?
And since that part was before the pulse that meant they were planning it for a while
I think "her" is referring to that AI who went into stasis to stop progression of rampancy
i think ONI is studying her potentially for developing a cure for rampancy or something
It was Sadie right
Could have sworn that AI had the same name
I am pretty sure they mention the AI gabriela in the audio thing they mentioned the serial number
can't find anything about an AI named sadie
the AI in stasis is named Iona
please don't tell me you thought her name was sadie because they're both black
Really Dude?
Why?
No it's because sadie was said to be put into stasis in saints testimony
I don't even know who iona is
Who the hell is that
She's an AI who was put into stasis to stop rampancy from getting worse
Then no
that wasn't sadie
that was Iona
-_-"
she works for ONI as Vergil's handler
Oh lord I mixed them up
And Vergil followed
smh
Sadie is the human from odst
Yea I absolutely did not Remeber Iona
Lona is the ai from bloodlines
I just remembered
It's because I haven't read that comic in a long while
And sadie is easier to remember
Yep the ai is probably lona
Iona was with black team when they crashed onto a forerunner testing facility right
Should probably give it a reread
Yeah
She was the ai for the ship
So was here donner black?
Or did she just pick that avatar?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Its a mystery
i don't think it really matters
Yeah was just curious
Since ai can basically be anything they want
And don't have memories of there donners
not true
they do have memories
the AI made from FERO's brain remembered how she died
pretty sure cortana shared some of halsey's memories early on, too
Pretty sure most Smart AI have memories of who they were made from
Well cortana is special
Black Box shared his donor's personal distaste for humans
Think the SoS might start making smart AI of their own? Its been seen how effective they are and they are allies of the unsc
Before the created thing
doubt it
ok so to ONI vid does mention Gabriella's service number so it's her after all
Who is Gabriella
the Outpost Discovery AI
Oh, is she canon?
Yes
How is Outpost Discovery canon? What is the lore behind it?
It's literally the point of the comic lone wolf
What is that
A comic
About
a wolf who's alone
Noble 6 then
The plot is that linda is sent to retrieve Gabriela
Because she has a of earth's history or something
How can a canonical AI exist in 2019
She just has all of war the history
Is she a smart AI
Yes
Then she's been terminated by now?
No
Why
Probably in stasis
When was she made
watch the ONI drop
Weird how Roland wasnt in SOR
says who?
Does he still do stuff
Well its implied
The unsc is starting to use dumb ais now
Where ever they can
Because you know they don't really care
So Roland is gone
Nah
Sort of
he wasn't gone in Bad Blood
He's just somewhere
Was Serina from the SOF a smart AI?
He still has some control over infinity
Yes she was
She was just an earlier generation
Bad blood is before shadows
all ship-board AI are smart AI
Yes
Dumb AI aren't smart enough to run ships
When does Bad Blood take place
They don’t even allow Spartans to run dumb ai’s on the field
But Roland explicitly refused the Created
Yeah
What was it that Halsey wanted Blue Team to retrieve in SoR?
Yup. It was confirmed in SoR that absolutely no Smart AI are in use anymore.
It's not because the unsc are evil
what page?
And why does the ONI video released today mention Operation Wolfe

