#lore-and-universe

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empty bloom
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Cool, there's one more barely notable Spartan III in existence because they're just one Spartan among thousands.

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Hot things tend to glow, yes.

steel stone
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Are they suppose to be the clouds or is the ocean just pure lava at that point if we went there?

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Not even during the campaign I think Reach looked this crazy

empty bloom
steel stone
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damn thats actually insane and hardcore

empty bloom
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I mean, it's pretty normal as far as planets overheated tend to go.

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Reach isn't special in how it was glassed.

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Just another dead world.

steel stone
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That is really crazy thinking about when you think about what Halsey says at the end of reach "your body and armor was burned and turned to ash"

empty bloom
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Just Six joining his brothers and sisters.

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He was a Beta, after all.

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They almost all died to glassing.

steel stone
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It makes me wish we got to play a level that look place close to a glassing, that expalination of the oceans was awesome

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Does glassing also disable a Spartans shields which was why Kat die like that?

empty bloom
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No.

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Kat died because Bungie doesn't know how their own universe works.

versed helm
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What if in halo wars 2

Spirit of fire failed how would that impact halo infinite?

stoic hamlet
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It really wouldn’t.

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Well, technically it means Divine Wind can’t take place and everyone does by Halo firing, but the Spirit just provided the heavy weapons, they didn’t actually contribute troops to that specific battle.

snow cape
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what if the Arbiter contiued his campaign against the humans

empty bloom
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What if someone asked an interesting question?

stoic hamlet
empty bloom
thorn spindle
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😎

unique rune
steel stone
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What was the story of the giant monitor that watches you on that multiplayer map Halo 3?

wispy pewter
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Alpha Centauri doesn't exist in Halo

steel stone
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It was so awesome but what is its purpose? could it shoot lasers like normal moniter could?

stoic hamlet
steel stone
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Scale wise its screwed up

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I guess it was a mistake

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What was it doing there? was it escaping a fight with the covenant? who was the pilot?

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It was really cool seeing.

patent patio
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Someone was in a mood lol

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Anyway

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Don't remember where I got this one but are Spartan IIs and IVs pretty equally match?

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If so, where do the IIIs fit in?

stoic hamlet
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III’s and II’s are roughly equals, IV’s need MJOLNIR to match.

patent patio
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Aren't the IIIs just expendables or nah?

stoic hamlet
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They’re expendable compared to Spartan II’s, but only because there weren’t enough II’s to send.

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They’re not actually that disposable.

patent patio
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Besides that, I've never actually knew what the difference IIIs had with their augmentations

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I know the ones before them had way more dangerous augmentation and had super specific qualifications or whatever

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:U. Idk, feel like a super suit or exo suit would be like better than a spartan lowkey

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Maybe instead of just having our guys go through surgery or whatever. We can just mass produce mantises and etc

unique rune
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Have fun fitting a Mantis through a doorway

patent patio
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Just blow it up

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Or make a cool exo suit or whatever

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Like spartan size I guess

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Idk it's just one of those things ig

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Like in halo 5 intro, they do the comm check after they jump out of the pelican.

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Or elites being honorable yet they use camo and glass their targets on the ground from the sky

stoic hamlet
patent patio
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Ah so just a safer way to adminster the same injections and also safer way to implement the same augmentations?

stoic hamlet
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If the II’s are akin to, like, the way the Continental Army vaccinated against polio in the 1770’s, the III’s are how we vaccinate against it now.

(Well, not exactly, but you know)

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It’s more or less the same result, just better/more streamlined.

patent patio
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Aight but aren't IIs superior overall?

stoic hamlet
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They’re superior due to pure combat experience but that’s by and large nebulous. There are areas the III’s and IV’s would beat them out.

patent patio
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With the new and superior technology of their suits or because of their augmentations and training etc?

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Or both ig

stoic hamlet
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The III’s are noted to be more loyal and willing to complete their mission when compared to their successors and predecessors. Their motivation is also called out a few times.

Gamma S-III’s can withstand and dish out a lot more punishment.

Spartan IV’s, being former regular soldiers, have a much wider breath of skillsets and life experience that their predecessors lack.

patent patio
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Aight

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I was just feeling to learn a bit more bout Halo so thanks

stoic hamlet
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👍

exotic pulsar
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Yeah, the 2nd Gen mjonir compensates for the Spartan IV's increasing their over physicality. Though like the Mark V[B], Gen 2 was used as a test bed for all kinds of projects. What is unknown though is if a II inside of a Gen 2 would also have increased physicality.

stoic hamlet
exotic pulsar
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Luckily they can still use the older armor, it just needs an upgrade to the firmware.

carmine sleet
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I assume some hardware is also swapped in, just to make sure it's in line with more modern Mjolnir standards

muted raft
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Were spartan 3s getting mjolnir by 2548?

orchid kettle
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If you were a super special "Cat-II", then yeah.

tropic forge
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Or a Headhunter

carmine sleet
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Headhunters were using SPI

muted raft
empty bloom
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I'd argue if you are a chosen to be a Spartan in the first place you're still Cat II material (Buck solo'd two Hunters with an AR as a normal human, apparently, for example), but IIIs had slim pickings.

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Humanity's pop is in the trillions and gets more and more populous the further into the inner colonies you go, so...

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There's a reason to, kind of to and against @stoic hamlet's point, I think the IV-II/III gap is incredibly overexaggerated, out of and in armor. People forget that IIs and IIIs actually aren't incredibly strong compared to brutes and elites out of armor, it's mostly the armor for them too.

orchid kettle
empty bloom
orchid kettle
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which is kinda weird when Reach for some reason only had 700 million

empty bloom
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Apparently Earth had 10 billion on its own.

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Which steeply dropped to 200 million between evac and casualties by the end of the war.

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(Then went back to 7.9b right after)

orchid kettle
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Right, but chances are, Earth also has the highest population of any individual planet in the UEG.

empty bloom
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Right. Interesting equation.

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Either way, lots of humans.

orchid kettle
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I'm personally a believer in the 34 billion number

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if only because I also assume most outer colonies are lil rinky dink pit stops with either only a few million, or even as low as a few hundred thousand.

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Basically, one of the figures used for Harvest's population

empty bloom
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Maybe, maybe.

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Unsure.

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stoic hamlet
empty bloom
stoic hamlet
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Oh yeah, fair.

But even then, they were both in armour.

And then, anyways, that right was terribly choreographed and done, so….

empty bloom
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Intent=/=end result.

stoic hamlet
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But yeah it’s not that blatant.

empty bloom
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Actual depictions of IVs also tend to display them as parallel, not really seperate.

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It mostly seems to be a 'random loreblurb' or 'Literally just Buck' sort of deal.

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Especially since the in-depth descriptions of IV augs don't track with them being weaker

stoic hamlet
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I’ve always seen it as a kind of like… if a II or III’s has a slightly faster reaction time, a IV is just behind, out of armour.

A regular person will see a blur, a IV will see the attack coming and be able to bring their hands up to ward it off but might be just a little too slow.

Speaking generally.

A II or III could blitz a IV, and the IV can at least kind of react, but they’re still just a bit too slow.

But a regular person wouldn’t be able to discern any difference.

desert nimbus
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Way I see it

orchid kettle
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I feel like IV reaction times should actually be the same because the process sounds identical to what was done to the IIs and IIIs

desert nimbus
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But because they wernt children they wouldnt accept it quite the same. Lore mentions how they are not as good as iis and iiis here and there, not just hate

orchid kettle
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I feel like they're just as fast on terms like, running, too.

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Palmer claims she can outrun a horse. A horse gallops at around 30mph according to ye olde google, and that's about on par with what we hear Mendez describe in Fall of Reach.

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All out of armor

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The only thing that sounds lacking to me is like, their actual strength, but that could just be because Im not really sure what having MJOLNIR tech suit material grafted throughout your musculature would actually do

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while I can wrap my head around "this juice makes their muscles bigger and thicker"

empty bloom
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From the lengthening of telomeres (Reduces genetic age) to augmentations specifically added to improve long-and-short-term muscle memory.

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There's not really a lot left of a IV short of like, the majority of their brain, and face, that makes them the 'adult' they were before the augs.

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When a standard part of your aug procedure is the complete emptying of your ribcage and fiddling with or replacing every squishy bit inside, you're not exactly who you were anymore.

desert nimbus
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Tru lmao

muted raft
empty bloom
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Logic would point to Six actively avoiding as many fights as possible.

orchid kettle
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Im pretty sure you have to kill the guys shooting at the door to Vergil's data center in Data Hive

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Unless you wanna attribute all those to Dare and her lil pistol

muted raft
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Poor guy fought through new Mombasa alone just to get blown away by some innie execution style

stoic hamlet
orchid kettle
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I dunno, Dirt does end with Gage successfully rescuing a vault's worth of elementary schoolers

stoic hamlet
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Oh I meant with rookie dying to Insurrectionists, which gage says/hoped the Covenant would stop/dininish.

bronze prawn
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was the grunt part of high charity full of methane

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or they had to still use their masks to breath

empty bloom
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That fight he at least had backup from an ONI agent; And the other fight, at Sadie's dad's grave.

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Because apparently Doherty did canonically find all the logs and iced the cop.

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Basically, unavoidable fights are mostly in Data Hive. There's not many unavoidable encounters in Mombasa Streets where the enemy is immediately aware of your presence-I think it's limited to snipers and a few phantom drops.

last anchor
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I'm pretty sure Rookie shot the cop the moment he tried to mess with him
Dude suffered a hard crash, has spent thr last several hours wandering a Covenant occupied city ALONE and was on who knows how many stims and medgel containers to keep going

He saw the cop go for his shotgun, iced him, took the ammo and kept going

lapis mason
empty bloom
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Then channel Nick from the L4D2 intro.

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"I have not come this far to die now"

last anchor
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"Your in my way. I've got a spook to get"

obsidian thistle
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Doubt we'll get one seeing as New Blood does it pretty much

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It pretty much is the "So here is the events of Halo 3: ODST if you didn't play it."

muted raft
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Wait a minute

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Is it Canon that Kelly listens to rhcp

ionic tiger
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She at least listens to Queen if I remember Shadows of Reach right.

carmine sleet
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She was definitely doing so in early drafts of the novel

ionic tiger
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Kinda makes me wonder about musical taste 500 years from now. Like, what contemporary music is going to eventually be seen on the same level as, say, something made by Mozart?

unborn patrol
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idk if anything will be

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the thing is we make and archive music like never before so theres just so much more from the time to discover than what used to be

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you used to need to know how to write music

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you used to need the instruments and chance to do it all

unique rune
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I mean, just because it's been preserved or archived doesn't mean it'll all be valued the same

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Sure, it's easier than ever to make and distribute music, but it's also still quite easy to just get ignored or forgotten for any number of reasons

drowsy mesa
ionic tiger
stoic hamlet
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And, notably, with how isolated Human space should be, I think you’d see a lot of art, be it music, paintings, poetry, written work, etc, be made on different colonies completely independent of one another other.

muted raft
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So that can be anything from buddy Holly to guns n roses, to ccr, to rhcp

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Even clash or foster the people lol

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Good chance she's listened to bad to the bone

muted raft
glass walrus
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How did High Charity downtown looked like and how Covenant Citizens looked like? They have never shown us this two things

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Im very curious

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Imagine a halo 3 odst type of game but youre an elite during the great schism at high charity, with the flood outbreak

carmine sleet
glass walrus
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And the artificial atmosphere

wispy pewter
obsidian thistle
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There is a few bands in Halo

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Fist of the Unicorn

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Fluke of the Narwhal

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Those kids bands in the Battle Born series

carmine sleet
glass walrus
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Im reading contact Harvest but i found a chapter where its in the december 2525, but then it returns to 2524 in the next chapter. Is it an error?

orchid kettle
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I believe so.

obsidian thistle
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I believe later printings fixed that issue

glass walrus
obsidian thistle
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Alas yea its a mistake

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Would kinda break stuff for Chapter 5 to be a year later

thin chasm
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Does Noble Six ever make an appearance in any Halo Books?
Obviously he could not be in any book prior to 2010, but i'm not sure about 343's side of things

carmine sleet
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He does not appear in any of the books

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Closest we got was some people thinking his helmet would show up in Shadows of Reach

thin chasm
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Damn, that's a shame

stoic hamlet
glass walrus
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And in Halo Shadows Of Reach

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And in Halo Glasslandd

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But then they dont appear physically

thin chasm
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Can't wait to get to those books, i'm planning to buy Ghosts Of Onyx next

last anchor
runic wharf
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Do Spartan 5s exist

unique rune
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no

stoic hamlet
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There’s no point to them.

harsh current
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On a scale of 0/10 how painful is it being infected by the Flood?

stoic hamlet
obsidian thistle
# stoic hamlet There’s no point to them.

I agree and disagree to a small degree.

343i and HS seemed interested in pushing the "Spartan" route and going beyond the Class route.

So everything (done officially though UNSC/ONI) is a Spartan regardless of how they were augmented.

At most I expect if Spartan-Vs or some different name to it are a thing; it would be the augmentations and so on that are different. They'd still be Spartans and likely paired alongside older ones on operations.

glass walrus
bronze prawn
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Also depends how valuable information you have on your mind because if you do, they will scavange and pull apart your memories to get that info in what looks as a very painful and long process

glacial coral
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Question. Would the phrase "undid iridium" work on any UNSC smart AI, or does it only work on Roland? For example, would it have worked on Black Box in 2553?

spark pivot
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Probably only roland, I'd assume most have a similar function for security reasons however, but it definitely wouldnt be the same word

carmine sleet
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Aye, be a pretty big flaw if all AI could be forced to comply with the exact same phrase

glass walrus
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Whats the difference between dumb AIs and smart AIs

empty bloom
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Smart AI; Cortana, Roland, Iratus.

Dumb AI; Vergil, Circ

versed helm
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I’d have personally not named them “dumb” AIs. Even though they are bottom tier by AI standards, they far outperform humans intellectually

stoic hamlet
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Smart and Dumb as kind of slang.

versed helm
last anchor
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Its similar to how "hacking" or "counterhacking" are technically refered to as "Illegal Entry Protocols" or "Counter illegal entry procotols", but no one uses PIE or CPIE or either of those

orchid kettle
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Vergil has no soul

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Sad.

sonic lagoon
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During the interplanetary wars, where did Frieden and Koslovic forces get their uniforms?

last anchor
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Made themselves or stolen from Terran stockpiles presumably.
Making BDUs isnt particularly HARD if you have inferstructure

empty bloom
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So a 'non-volitional' AI could be a shackled Smart AI copy (Iratus).

empty bloom
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Like, a uniform is just 'set clothing for your troops'

thorn spindle
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and a pikachu hat

carmine sleet
# empty bloom Like, a uniform is just 'set clothing for your troops'

Aye, which can range from full combat BDUs seen for Halo's Marines, shiny plastoid armour worn by Stormtroopers (And barely protects the wearer anyway) in Star Wars to just wearing the colours of your faction, whether that be a full outfit or just an item in said colour, because they don't have a standardised uniform

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Unless @sonic lagoon is asking specifically who they're going to to make uniforms specifically which, well... We don't exactly have allot of details on the time when the Frieden and Koslovics were about

glacial coral
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Admiral Margaret Orlenda Parangosky is a character I am infuriated by. She gave half the planet Reach to the Covenant in order to kickstart Operation Red Flag. Which failed. She has nothing but disdain for peace treaties and constanly piles onto Catherine Halsey. She claims that she has no regrets and doesn't care if she dies and doesn't care if the history of the Spartan-II program eventually is released to the public. If I could, I know exactly how I'd punish her for her sins.

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  1. If I could, I'd override Black Box and have him kill Serin Osman.

Serin is Maggie's future. Her legacy. Her successor. If she died, Margaret would truly know what loss and sacrifice are. And it wouldn't matter what Parangosky does to me. In the end, I win. I will have robbed her of her future.

empty bloom
glacial coral
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If it were up to me, I'd make Halsey the head of ONI.

empty bloom
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... Boy, sure glad you aren't.

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Anyone who'd put a child kidnapping data-hijacking project-ruining kleptomaniac with a god complex in charge of ONI is a fool.

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@stoic hamlet Look at this stuff, fascinating

stoic hamlet
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Truly.

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If I wasn’t putting together a Helldivers post I’d comment, but I’ll save my thoughts for later.

empty bloom
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People thinking Halsey is a good person has done irreversible damage to Halo narrative understanding.

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.. Also, what person in the Halo universe wouldn't know a sense and understanding of loss? Like half the population of humanity at least was wiped.

thorn spindle
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halsey is the halo grandma she is getting old sad times

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soon she will die and her family will struggle with who gets the mansion and kidnapping prisons

wispy pewter
unique rune
versed helm
wispy pewter
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"Say it or I will unplug you"

glacial coral
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I am an agent of Chaos. Of course Halsey is guilty. So is Master Chief. No one is free of guilt in Halo. But to truly punish someone, killing them isn't enough. Sometimes you just need to make their life a living hell.

wispy pewter
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Both sides of pillow are warm for eternity

glacial coral
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Halsey didn't act alone. And she did feel bad for what she did. But putting her at the head of ONI would be soooooooo crazy!!!

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Hell Mendez is worse than Halsey. Not only was he willingly involved with the II's, he went around and did it again with the III's.

wispy pewter
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but Mendez atleast asked those children first

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did not kidnap them

glacial coral
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He trained children AGAIN to be soldiers, just so they can be deployed to their deaths.

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Alpha Company, Beta Company. Almost all of them are gone.

wispy pewter
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okay ur right

glacial coral
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No one is without sin in Halo. But the punishments should fit the crimes. Halsey locked away in the Midnight Facility. And Parangosky watching helplessly as I kill Serin Osman.

wispy pewter
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what did Osman do

glacial coral
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Nothing. But Parangosky has her as her future. Margaret trained Serin to be her replacement. Killing Serin would destroy everything Parangosky has worked for.

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It's like I said. Sometimes to punish someone, you have to make them suffer a living hell.

empty bloom
empty bloom
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And even then... If you want a good story, sometimes bad people have to have a point.

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Halsey's skill set is grossly outside of what's needed to run ONI.

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Up to and including her penchant for violating OPSEC at the drop of a hat so she can butcher another program for spare parts.

carmine sleet
carmine sleet
obsidian thistle
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Sounds like a bad idea. Especially given that Halsey has her own motives.

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And bias

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A lotta good may come outta it yes. But a lotta emotional ones also. Imagine Ghosts of Onyx levels of pulling people out the fight x3

versed helm
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Just send a Flood infection form into ONI HQ and be done with it.

unique rune
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Hope you enjoy ruining Earth while achieving very little else of real significance

versed helm
# unique rune Hope you enjoy ruining Earth while achieving very little else of real significan...

The higher up’s are ONI is already corrupt and on a different level from the rest of us commoners. They aren’t like a president, they are the furthest from that, running things from the shadows. They did their part with the Spartan IIs, but who wins this war isn’t in their hands, its in the hands of Spartan’s like John-117. At this point John & Offensive Bias are the only things (that we know of) that’ll probably stop Atriox and the Endless.

unique rune
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...And getting them and a bunch of other people killed and compromising tons of secure information is supposed to help how?

versed helm
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Never said it was supposed to help. I just said “be done with it”. Not trying to take this like a life or death decision.

unique rune
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Letting the Flood loose is never just a "be done with it" thing lmao

stoic hamlet
versed helm
# stoic hamlet Well actually it’s in the hands of the entire UNSCDF. John doesn’t fight alone....

Well true. But, he is in a situation in Halo Infinite where he’s pretty much on his own. Tremonius, Bassus, Tovarus and Hyperius, Jega Rdomnai, Escharum, Harbinger: they all fell to the legendary Green Spartan. Id say a good amount of those individuals were vital leadership’s in all of the Banished, especially Escharum.

Now with Atriox back with the Endless, whoever appears to finish the fight in the next game will be a vital piece in ending the war, and their are only so many notable (alive) protagonists in Halo Infinite campaign.

empty bloom
versed helm
empty bloom
versed helm
unique rune
empty bloom
versed helm
empty bloom
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ONI's basically space CIA. They do horrible things to ensure they win.

unique rune
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Humanity's greatest intelligence agency/shadowy cabal running the government/whatever, fully crippled because their one big planet got zombified

empty bloom
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I really never got how people like, don't get that ONI's basically Halo's Section 31.

versed helm
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Spartan II program is definitely their most horrifying, yet effective, work.

empty bloom
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Nah.

versed helm
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Dang, what could they have done thats even worse? (Probably large scale world killing of some sorts)

empty bloom
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I'd say purposely infecting alien people with the flood to see how the flood ticks is worse.

versed helm
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Fair. Just like the Forerunners and ancient hoomans.

empty bloom
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The II program's honestly not their most 'effective' work either, outside of outliers.

versed helm
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Johnny boy is pretty important as well as a good few others. Without the Spartan IIs a-lot would have changed.

empty bloom
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Ruinously overbudget, run by someone who basically operated as a massive opsec leak wherever she went (Halsey is honestly one of the most textbook examples of an insider threat in franchise history), who purposely ruined other projects via subterfuge and spying so her own would get more budgeting.

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She's responsible for the slow death of several powered armor offshoots.

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Which had more force-wide viability than MJOLNIR.

versed helm
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For crying out loud, Halsey just needs to fade away after that. She is legitimately the biggest menace to society FROM society.

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I wonder whatever happened to project Yggdrasil

empty bloom
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Resulted in these.

empty bloom
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I never did get why people thought that she should like, feel bad about it enough to own up to ONI helping Halsey with the II program or even show leniency.

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Like, she's the head of a massive spy organization that is directly hurt by her doing that, she doesn't have to agree with anything Halsey says.

carmine sleet
versed helm
carmine sleet
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If you want to cut the head off of ONI, you use something much less unpredictable and unpleasant to deal with

versed helm
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I didn’t think too deep into it. I just thought “FLOOD”.

versed helm
empty bloom
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=v=

carmine sleet
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You don't need to think deeply about it to see why just releasing the Flood is a terrible thing

empty bloom
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You'd be more likely to be convinced into jumping headfirst into a pile of infection forms talking to a Primordial.

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Than to convince it of anything.

carmine sleet
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At this rate, we're gonna be getting someone asking why Leon didn't hire zombies to help him out in RE4

versed helm
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Ill “John Halo” my way to victory (LUCK baby)

empty bloom
versed helm
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Zombies were on paid leave so he didn’t want to disturb them

carmine sleet
empty bloom
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Yep.

carmine sleet
empty bloom
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Seriously though, I've noticed the numbers of people who just flat out don't think parts of the story through, don't question their conclusions or don't think about consequences-emotion over logic-is just exponentially increasing for pretty much everything I enjoy the story of.

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Ugh.

carmine sleet
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Yeah... Like, I do admit that I have missed things but if I have, I normally pick it up quickly

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But like, I normally miss smaller things, not stuff like "This potentially galaxy ending parasite is too dangerous to try and control"

empty bloom
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"We should have Halsey in charge of ONI" is honestly one for the scrapbook

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I can't get over it lmao

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It's still funny

carmine sleet
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And with other threats, like the Banished, there is potential for a situation where logically, you could be forced to use them to deal with a problem, because the Banished isn't a collective of bodies hell-bent on killing all life in the galaxy to continue its own growth

carmine sleet
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Like, you just know she'd be cancelling projects from people she doesn't like out of spite

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Just "Oh, Ackerson was making his own Spartans, let's cancel all funding because I hate him"

empty bloom
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She's petty, lmao

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And she even tried to do crap like that when she wasn't in charge

carmine sleet
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Aye

empty bloom
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Cortana does stuff constantly that echoes what Halsey would do if she had the immediate power

carmine sleet
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Like mother, like daughter

empty bloom
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"Hmn, am I in the wrong for breaching the stipulations of my continued survival under ONI and directly contacting a hostile xeno entity who actively wants to wipe humanity out in order to further my own goals under the nose of the Infinity's crew? No, clearly it is the Infinity that is at fault"

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Ah, yes, surely that is the thinking process of someone who can be entrusted with the galaxy's premier intelligence apparatus.

carmine sleet
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I can't even do my jokey "She was just being silly" because Halsey definitely should know better

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Like, she was twisting history to paint herself in a better light

empty bloom
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You can be as smart as you want, but an ego's an ego.

carmine sleet
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Indeed

empty bloom
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And having an ego makes you do dumb things.

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IIRC, one of the top neurosurgeons on the planet today is a flat earther.

carmine sleet
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I hate that

empty bloom
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I mean, how could he be wrong?

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He's a neurosurgeon?

carmine sleet
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This is why I'm glad I know better than to pretend being an expert in one thing, makes me an expert at allot of things

empty bloom
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People don't feel a lot of drive to introspect or anything of the sort.

carmine sleet
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Aye

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And some people make decisions without considering more than just their own perspective on things

empty bloom
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People had to be spoonfed that game's story and what made it competent.

carmine sleet
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Aye

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Like, I'll admit the bit with the Librarian telling us about ancient humanity confused me back in 2012 (I hadn't read any of the novels back then) but the gist of it is that ancient humans were used to make Prometheans. Regardless of ancient humanity having a space empire or not, that fact is clear

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But even then, the story of Halo 4 is ultimately about Chief trying to prevent Cortana from dying and stopping an ancient alien that wants to convert humanity into robots (To simplify it), with said alien being a parallel to Chief if he doesn't figure out the whole being human thing, given Chief is a soldier who has basically been fighting his entire life

orchid kettle
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I honestly dont really feel like there's a strong parallel between Chief and Ur-Didact. Maybe itd be more explicit if the Didact's goal was specifically in resurrecting the Librarian, his own blue waifu, or something along those lines.

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But just like how I dont really buy how Escharum is "just a soldier, hoping he did right thing", I dont buy that Didact is a reflection of Chief just because they both fight in wars.

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It feels like a really shallow commonality that I feel like can be applied to most characters because most characters in Halo are from a military of some sort

carmine sleet
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I didn't say it was a strong parallel, think of it less that the two have similar goals and more the Didact is representative of who Chief could become if Chief just keeps fighting

orchid kettle
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To me it just feels like Halo 4 had a lot of potential themes it wanted to explore, and it couldnt really manage its time effectively. Like I think the Didact's whole deal is part of that "fear of being replaced" thing that pops up a couple times in the story, mainly just through Cortana's paranoid ramblings that the story itself never really confronts until Infinite.

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Didact cant accept that the Forerunners' time is over, and so attacks us, the "replacements"

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because at the time, the franchise was all in on how following in the Forerunners' footsteps and claiming the Mantle was 100% the correct move for humanity despite the Forerunner Trilogy practically being about how the Forerunners basically deserved to get Flooded because of how awful they treated not only other races but also their own citizens

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so naturally you have a villain that opposes that, even though at the time, it wasnt ever really made clear how humans were going to succeed where Forerunners failed, so the Didact isnt even really opposing any sort of different philosophy

stoic hamlet
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Re. The Halsey running ONI thing:

I feel like Killzone 3 of all things weirdly shows why that’s a terrible idea.

errant kraken
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i need someone who knows their stuff to tell me about mjolnir armor, atriox stuff, and stuff about that one scene from the halo wars games where atriox crushes one of the spartans shoulders and helmet

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im trying to use lore to win arguments against my friend who knows near nothing about halo because everytime he brings it up, its always "big monkey (atriox) beat chiefs rear, haha L"

unique rune
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I very much doubt any amount of lore is going to win whatever argument this is

errant kraken
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oh... darn

thorn spindle
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neither will hurt eachother fatally bc the story needs them both alive for now

versed helm
# errant kraken im trying to use lore to win arguments against my friend who knows near nothing ...

In Master Chief’s own words: “Atriox beat me. Surgically. Precisely. Brutally.” In all, Master Chief ultimately lost the fight. Atriox also managed to easily take on 3 Spartan IIs, and while they aren’t in the best condition taking on 3 Spartan IIs alone and coming out on top is really impressive.

Atriox is a perfect combination of tactical intelligence and strength, which allows him to overcome powerful opponents.

versed helm
last anchor
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Sadly, hes one dude and all the rest of the people under him are entirely fallible

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So the moment Atriox turns his attention away, the internal squabbling (that he usually started I should note) begins and a canny enemy can take advantage of that.

versed helm
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Atriox is essentially carrying the Banished on his shoulders. He came the closest to killing Chief when a good majority of the Banished on Zeta Halo never got close

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It’ll be interesting to see how he commands, or works with, the Endless.

patent patio
stoic hamlet
patent patio
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Yeah

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But hey atleast we got a character that can actually square up with the Chief now

stoic hamlet
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It should be done better, IMO.

But then, compared to something like Astartes, no fiction has ever really done super soldiers right, IMO. That set the bar so high, I don’t think anything can come close.

empty bloom
stoic hamlet
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Namely the speed.

empty bloom
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Yeah, but charging through an ATV thing is cool as hell.

stoic hamlet
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And there’s a few weird “pauses” for lack of a better term in the melee scene.

I also think it wasn’t as well thought out as Astartes. That has clear thought put into why and what the marines and their foes do, we don’t really see that at all from Secret Level.

It’s the second best depiction, but Astartes still beats it out handily.

sonic lagoon
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What does the underwater tentacle monster look like in the Return? Is it essentially a Sarlacc pit with elite style mandibles?

carmine sleet
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Underwater tentacle monster in Return?

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Ok, found the scene you're referencing. We don't know what that creature was

wispy pewter
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man watching the warhammer episide has gotten me interested in the 40k unbiverse tbh. Imagine if Halo had an episode

wispy pewter
unique rune
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If just any big rock is a mountain, sure, I guess.

patent patio
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Halo Infinite intro did the guy justice. Guy was fast, agile, and could actually throw a second punch immediately after the 1st one

patent patio
unique rune
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No

He held up a big rock supposedly about the size of a Warthog once but never an entire mountain because that would be ridiculous

carmine sleet
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Where did it even come from that Chief could "Lift mountains"?

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Like, I get he's strong but he's not Sun Wukong levels of strong

stoic hamlet
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It’s just the absurd Master Chief worship. Just ignore it.

unique rune
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You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

stoic hamlet
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Yes.

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(I know the meme, but I can’t recall the correct response D:)

velvet raven
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So I'll be finishing up Silentium soon and I'm wondering if I should read the Kilo Five trilogy or skip it

empty bloom
carmine sleet
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I wouldn't be surprised if they do

glass walrus
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But the forerunner trilogy has a problem: no action, only people talking

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We dont even see the flood destroying the forerunner planets, they only mention it

patent patio
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Are people actually getting pressed by this? Damn

glass walrus
patent patio
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Some guy said Chief can lift a mountain and then the bottom comments happened

glass walrus
patent patio
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Lol

glass walrus
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Hes still a human, even if he is a super soldier

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I think the only halo creatures that could lift a mountain by themselves, without any help are the precursors

patent patio
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What about the hunter worms if they form something big?

glass walrus
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And fun fact: in italian Forerunner are translated as Precursori, and Precursors are translated as Predecessori

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Always the same word

glass walrus
patent patio
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But yeah back to point. Getting pressed in discord is like damn. Chill out chiefsmirkle

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Hop off discord and do something

unique rune
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idk maybe don't lie about things

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no one really got worked up about it anyway

patent patio
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I'm just saying

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Maybe the guy actually did hear it off somewhere

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We don't know how they got it

carmine sleet
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I have so many other things to be worked up about, the Chief lifting mountains thing is just dumb and I'm just confused as to why it's a thing in the first place

patent patio
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It is what it is 🤷‍♀️

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Also maybe the not the best place to ask

unique rune
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Maybe they heard it somewhere and instead of checking if that actually was written anywhere they just posted it like a fact with no disclaimers

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sure

patent patio
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Anyway. Maybe not the best place to ask but what if my Xbox is taking forever to download something

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I've been trying to download Dead Space 3 and for a week, it's been stuck on 43 percent

unique rune
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I think you would probably get better results from general chat or the Xbox Discord

patent patio
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👍

teal forum
versed helm
patent patio
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I could've sworn you said something different

spare kite
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Under the same circumstances that the 3's went through in Tropedo and Promotheus do u guys think the 2's would have survived? Assuming that they're all still wearing spi instead of Mjolnir and that they're the same age with the same amounf of experience.

unique rune
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~30-40 Spartan-IIs would not have survived anything that wiped out 300 Spartan-IIIs

empty bloom
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So... No. they'd have been pulverized even easier than Alpha and Beta.

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Apparently Chief is in awe at the fact the Infinity can just casually drop in 300 Spartan IVs on a battlefield like it's nothing. I really want to see that in a game someday.

spare kite
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My bad I should have clarified it. Same number of 3's just replace them with 2's. Have them wear SPI and have them be the same age with the same amount of experience. Basically when all is equal is the genetics with the 2's enough to have them live where the 3's died.

empty bloom
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Glassing beams don't care how good your genetics are.

spare kite
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Just saw a reddit comment talking about how all the 3's died in operation tropedo and Promotheus as a knock against the 3's, and im just like "bruh the 2's would have died as well uinder those circumstances".

empty bloom
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Redditors are goobers, so.

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They like to claim Chief should've dumpstered Locke when one of the most explicit parts of Spartan IV lore is that a IV can match a II in the same armor when it comes to GEN2.

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They also like to claim Chief's the strongest, fastest, bestest Spartan when he himself strongly disagrees.

spare kite
# empty bloom Redditors are goobers, so.

The halo story subreddit is pretty solid for a lore subreddit. Coincidently someone just made a post asking if the 3's are weaker than the 2's and the first comment was from someone shutting down that notion lol.

wispy pewter
spare kite
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Does anybody know the page or passage in Halsey journal where she talks about the genetic screening for the 2's in large part being influenced by reducing washout rate?

versed helm
bronze prawn
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How many forerunner artefacts are still left to be found on the galaxy ?

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Because I dont remember the status of that key given by the librarian

unique rune
muted raft
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Finding out ferret squad was with the keepers on reach was awesome

stoic hamlet
stoic hamlet
muted raft
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Mhm

glass walrus
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I have a question, is it necessary to read Ghosts of Onyx before the Kilo-Five Trilogy and every other books after Ghosts of Onyx?

carmine sleet
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It's good for providing context for some things in Kilo-Five, but not required to know for literally everything after Ghosts of Onyx released

muted raft
muted raft
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Fred instantly recognized her

unique rune
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Clark Kent glasses

glacial coral
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I have a question. Does anyone have a favourite piece of media outside the games? I.E. novel, graphic novel, movie, video?

orchid kettle
glass walrus
wispy pewter
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Ferrets are so cute. So why did they call them ferrets

drowsy mesa
patent patio
muted raft
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Is weapons development explained in a book or during the events of infinite

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If it's in the game I wouldn't feel bad about looking it up

carmine sleet
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She's made from a cloned brain of Doctor Halsey that was recovered from Reach after Halo 5

muted raft
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Yeah securing that was the events of shadow of reach

spark pivot
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I just finished reading The Rubicon Protocol and I have come to a conclusion, ||the guy who was stuck with Lucas Browning in the tower was either Lasky or Spartan Griffin, and I'm leaning towards it being Lasky||

spark pivot
carmine sleet
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Shadows of Reach

spark pivot
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noting which book I need to buy next

carmine sleet
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To be clear, you don't see Weapon's first moments, but it's obvious the brain used for Weapon is one of the ones recovered by Blue Team from Castle Base during the novel

muted raft
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Shadows of reach was amazing

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A lot of British moments from Kelly

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Lots of " bloody hells"

wispy pewter
spark pivot
wispy pewter
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I think it's in one of the canon fodders

obsidian thistle
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@wispy pewter @spark pivot ya both may like this! 🙂

wispy pewter
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Okay so I was right, don't know why I was so sure but yeah

obsidian thistle
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I just remember sources well aha

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Perks of being a Halopedian.

coarse fern
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What is Arbiter currently doing in the lore at this time?

carmine sleet
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He's busy on Sanghelios leading the Swords of Sanghelios

coarse fern
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Nice.

carmine sleet
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It does mean he can't just go galivanting off to do whatever because he kinda has to stay on the planet to keep the peace

coarse fern
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Sounds reasonable to me.

carmine sleet
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He did leave during 2559 to try and obtain a "Guardian killer" but ultimately he's back home now

coarse fern
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Interesting.

wispy pewter
coarse fern
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I see.

carmine sleet
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That was the "Guardian Killer" adventure

coarse fern
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Oh, was it what that "Halo: Outcasts" book was about?

carmine sleet
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Aye

coarse fern
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Neat.

wispy pewter
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very nice book

coarse fern
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I would believe so.

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While I don't really get to Halo books all too much, I do sometimes listen to the audiobooks they upload sometimes.

wispy pewter
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the book cover reminds me of that planet from the Halo show in the Season 1 finale lol

coarse fern
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I really enjoyed the one about that "Anvil Station" thing.

wispy pewter
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You should read the books, especially the Kilo 5 series

coarse fern
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I shall keep it in mind.

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So what are the full capabilities of "Chainbreaker", that gravity mace that Atriox is carrying around?

carmine sleet
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It smashes stuff real good

coarse fern
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Awesome.

carmine sleet
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Pretty sure it can also do the same things as the Fist of Rukt too

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But also has energy blades from an energy sword incorporated into it

coarse fern
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Very cool.

coarse fern
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Might as well ask the lore experts about this hypothetical: If a Xenomorph infestation and Flood infestation were to happen in the same place, which would overwhelm the other and why?

ionic tiger
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Flood would probably have the edge just based on how virulent the Flood super-cell is. My lore knowledge on Aliens isn't extensive, but Xenomorphs only really spread when the facehugger implants in a host and the juvenile xeno bursts out. The Flood can make use of living and dead organisms. Although the exosekeleton of the Xeno and acid blood may make direct infection difficult. I guess it depends on the resources available for either.

empty bloom
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So things that immediately jump out to me upon "Whispers from the Pyre"

  • Chief was operating effectively 'out of sight' for your average Banished ground troop, considering the rank and file apparently had no idea that a Spartan was behind the loss of the three Gorespike cannons on the island where Hyperius and Tovarus died.

  • Not many seemed to even be fully aware of the full scope of UNSC resurgence efforts, which did include taking back operating bases and Riven Gate.

  • The overarching philosophy of the Brutes' youth, which saw them used as chaff in internecine conflict before the Covenant's day, was abused by the Covenant who proceeded to use them the exact same way the old Chieftains did pre-Covenant, hence why the Banished was so much more appealing an option to many young brutes.

  • It is soft confirmed that the seeming victory of the Banished over the extant ring's forces left the surviving Banished off their A-game, soft and complacent after months of easy fighting. Chief apparently had an easier time because he was effectively going off bloated, overconfident troops in comparison to the forces that the Rubicon IVs fought six months prior, who were motivated and heavily supported instead of lackadaisical and isolated.

  • Chief is not the sole driver of conflict; Apparently his ability to take out Banished strongpoints led to UNSC forces making independent strikes against Banished outposts once the pressure had turned down.

  • Apparently, Chief had not wiped every single base by the time Escharum was killed. He, or other UNSC troops, simply took FOBs and particularly critical areas, from the looks of it.

carmine sleet
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I'm fine with that last point, given he was much more focused on stopping the Reformation of the ring happening during everything after Pelican Down

frail halo
empty bloom
frail halo
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The forerunners that built the rings were human, these new forerunners were just imposters!

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I'm expecting it on youtube any minute now.

carmine sleet
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Why would you suggest that notion... It's gonna be so annoying to deal with

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But like, when you look at the locations of the main story locations in Infinite and the locations of various side objectives like HVTs, marine squads or Banished Outposts. There's not really a good reason for Chief to be going out of his way to those side objectives like Inka 'Saham or Writh Kul or the Horn of Abolition

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At least not while he has more pressing matters to deal with

empty bloom
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My headcanon was him basically speedrunning the campaign anyways.

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Apparently a few side events alluded to in audio logs happened more or less concurrently with Chief's awakening, such as a major part of the Banished intel network getting covered in a rockslide thanks to some marines planting explosives, so.

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Guy literally showed up at the perfect moment.

carmine sleet
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Aye, and even without knowing that Chief is the one specifically doing things like killing high ranked members of the Banished, just knowing that someone was striking back would be enough to inspire the UNSC survivors to try attacks

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Though I do have to wonder if there is every gonna be hard confirmation of which HVTs and Banished Outposts Chief did destroy before his visit to the House of Reckoning

fair hazel
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The tudejsa being the one who built the rings! that was the woah moment for me

spark pivot
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What

spark pivot
carmine sleet
spark pivot
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If your one bullet against an army, you wanna be one damn good bullet coming out of a damn good gun

spark pivot
carmine sleet
spark pivot
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Fair, but I assume there was atleast a small gap between major missions in the campaign to take out smaller targets to weaken the big ones

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Ie, attack x group to force y group to weaken themselves protecting x, making it easier to go after y

carmine sleet
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I might spend time tomorrow working on my head canon for which sites and HVTs Chief took down/visited. It'll be a fun thing to do

ionic tiger
drowsy mesa
carmine sleet
muted raft
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Love how humanity continues to prove itself as a superior species but keeps taking massive Ls from the universe whole. Getting sent back to the stone age twice is crazy

carmine sleet
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No one species is the "Superior species"

autumn plaza
carmine sleet
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I don't think that's what they're trying to hint at

thorn spindle
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its an interesting idea, ancient humanity making/testing different weapons vs flood

ionic tiger
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Guys...we know the Forerunner Builders built the original 12 rings and 6 replacements (Zeta being the 7th and incoproated into the new batch). The story is talking about the stone totems.

thorn spindle
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yea

autumn plaza
patent patio
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I mean we built the pyramids

last anchor
thorn spindle
autumn plaza
teal forum
wispy pewter
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The forerunners built Saturn rings

carmine sleet
# autumn plaza Yeah. The stone rings that the Forerunners don't even understand. Somehow made b...

To build off of Ivy's point about the Pyramids, the fact that there's people out there today convinced that the ancient Egyptians build the pyramids via the most nonsensical of means (Including a giant horn to move the stones... Don't ask, it's a terrible theory) despite the most obvious methods to their construction being something that historians have figured out and found evidence for is kinda insane. So it doesn't surprise me that a species far more advanced than us would find it confusing when what they see as a more primitive species builds something like the rings we see on Zeta

thorn spindle
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i forget is Earth the homeworld for ancient humanity too or was it a diff planet

wispy pewter
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I thought it was still a mystery. Because moving those giant blocks of stone is impossible for ancient people

obsidian thistle
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Too many dark ages in the Ancestors history to have a solid answer

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Only ones who could answer are the Precursors or if someone got lucky with a needle in a haystack

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And well the Precursors are not an active species in the galaxy, and finding the homeworld may be impossible if the Forerunners never found it and the Halo array hit it

wispy pewter
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Imagine if it was Mars

carmine sleet
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Especially want to draw attention to this specific paragraph

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ancient thistle
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sorta new to halo and gonna try the games what should i play in order to know the story and lore

carmine sleet
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Release order works best for the games

unique rune
carmine sleet
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Next they'll try and claim light bulbs were invented back in Ancient Egypt because of the Dendera light motif at Dendera Egypt

empty bloom
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"Oh they were clearly giants making these stairs, our ancients could never have figured out steppe terrace farming, what?"

carmine sleet
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The most insane one to me is the idea that Antarctica is actually an ice wall that exists to prevent us from learning "The truth of the world" and all the sources for it are writings from people who clearly shouldn't be taken seriously or maps of the world that are outdated

ionic tiger
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Any reason to doubt what the story says it does?

coarse fern
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If there was to be an estimate: How many members does the Banished have?

empty bloom
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As many as the plot demands.

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Their forces are too... Fluid? To make a reasonable estimate.

orchid kettle
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if you believe in the power of halopedia surfacing, and look up how many dudes are supposedly in a covenant legion

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and naturally believe that extends to Banished

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then when Escharum boasts about a thousand legions, he's claiming there's anywhere between 10 million to 22 million troops

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of course chances are there's no hard figure on Banished legions, and its just however many dudes a particular warlord has at his beck and call

ionic tiger
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Heh, I'm still trying to wrap my head about how long a unit is supposed to be when it comes to alien factions. Seems like these sorts of things were intentionally vague enough when it came to the Covenant and now Banished.

orchid kettle
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I feel like it's especially murky when it comes to the idea that Grunts are simultaneously deployed in these massive hordes as nothing but cannon fodder

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but also here's three of them just hanging out with a couple Elites at all times

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I guess HW2 kinda shows us how ankle-biting fodder grunts differ.

ionic tiger
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Yeah, I'd imagine the kind of Grunts serving alongside Elites have proved themselves in some capacity and got out of "suicide squad" duty.

autumn plaza
# ionic tiger Any reason to doubt what the story says it does?

The characters in this story and Master Chief are seemingly pulling data from the rings. Rings made by primitive humans. The weapon says something about being older than the Forerunners and something about time manipulation. They aren't just stone circles.

empty bloom
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My running theory about the Xalayn is that they, at some point in their species' history, interfaced heavily with precursor nanotech not too dissimilar to the Divine Hand weapon's systems.

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The oceans on their homeworld potentially being suffused with said nanotech, explaining how they have similar but lesser abilities to the DHW and a malformed cognitohazard effect.

carmine sleet
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I could see that

muted raft
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What does intrepid eye think of cortana? Cause she realizes humans hold the mantle and is trying to force compliance upon them and cortana beleives ais hold the mantle. I doubt the two don't know about each other

carmine sleet
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Intrepid didn't like her if I recall

carmine sleet
sonic lagoon
empty bloom
carmine sleet
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Indeed

sonic lagoon
# empty bloom Lots of folks are contrarian idiots.

Indeed. You have people that believe giants were wiped in the late 1800s in a mud flood. Something about older buildings in the US being built over thousand year old building with electricity that were melted with ancient beams. Lots of schizophrenic folks for sure.

empty bloom
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The 'ancient battery and light' theory

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Which is something that reads more that it was a wine storage that was tainted enough to cause extra alkalines.

carmine sleet
sonic lagoon
carmine sleet
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I don't make it my business to watch videos on conspiracies when they're obviously untrue

empty bloom
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It generally makes it so that people continually distrust experts.

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Some of it is on purpose and others aren't.

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A lot of Youtube media these days is actually constructed in order to force that.

sonic lagoon
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Yeah, I find pseudoscience entertaining but I do understand it is bad for people mentally who take it seriously.

empty bloom
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Giving it a voice that you listen to by itself is... Not a good plan.

ionic tiger
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It wouldn't be the first time the Forerunners transplanted older things to the rings (Delta Halo ruins)

sonic lagoon
empty bloom
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Other people don't.

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Which is the problem with giving those ideas a voice, even if it's amusing.

ionic tiger
sonic lagoon
glass walrus
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Im not understanding something from the cole protocol: the gray team was isolated from the rest of the spartan during their training?

unique rune
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Correct, they were pulled aside and trained separate from the rest of the S-IIs

last anchor
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The Spartan program took advantage of exisdent personality and inclanation quirks within its members to leverage and enhance.

empty bloom
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't find the concept of Spartans who are somehow special-special-special-special forces hilarious.

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It just sounds deeply unserious.

carmine sleet
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I feel like Grey Team would take that as a compliment

ionic tiger
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I see it more as "These kids are really conflict-prone, but we can't really just get rid of them" so we'll make them specialize in being behind enemy lines and more or less on their own. And hope they come back.

last anchor
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Or they saw Kelly was naturally fast and went "we should take advantage of that"

quick cloud
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Does anyone know what's going on with the human-forerunner connection anymore, which iteration are they going with

orchid kettle
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Seems like at most humans and Forerunners both descend from some "stock species" used by the Precursors to seed life

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But from how it sounds, it seems like that should include all life in the galaxy because at one point in Epitaph, the Primordial claims exactly that, that because the Precursors seeded all life, they have the right to consume it all as the Flood

quick cloud
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That's way less satisfying then the old answer, damn

empty bloom
glass walrus
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Precursors made lot of mistakes

glass walrus
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Erm why the cole protocol has a chapter one page long

carmine sleet
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Sometimes a chapter only needs to be short

rich scroll
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We got any lore nerds in here

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I got a question

obsidian thistle
carmine sleet
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I forgot that was a thing in the first place

obsidian thistle
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Extra special trained Spartan-IIs where 3 died during training lol

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Imagine the numbers issue if that stuck

muted raft
#

Castor is honestly a good guy

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He has reservations about killing his enemies, all he wants to do is follow his faith

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Unfortunately his faith would lead to the end of life in the galaxy

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Definetly one of the more compassionate jiralhanae

stoic hamlet
#

Castor feels like Maccabeus but if he was in the post war.

I miss Maccabeus, he died too soon.

orchid kettle
#

Blame the tartar sauce for his betrayal 😦

glass walrus
stoic hamlet
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Yes.

muted raft
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Although

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If humanity was assimilated into the covenant then they would've fired the rings

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So honestly tartarus and thr profits starting the war saved the galaxy

glass walrus
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How come in some media, see egg swords cauterize a wound, while others do not, is there a lore reason why?

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Sometimes a blood splatter is used for dramatic effect

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Though there are some energy swords that burn at lower temperatures and don't cauterize wounds, but those haven't appeared in much

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carmine sleet
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That would make sense

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Kinda like the low power setting Star Wars has for lightsabers so they can train with them without risk of major injury (Yeah I don't quite understand how the low power setting prevents it from burning you either)

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what armor core does Laurette Agryna use?

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I got a little question here ive been wondering for like 3 weeks

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Are there any spartan medics?

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# rich scroll Are there any spartan medics?

There's a few. Spartan Combat Medics were originally prototyped with the genesis of the Spartan IV program, but due to the rarity of a Spartan to specifically be a Corpsman or Medic before they were a IV, it basically strongly limited the numbers of medic-capable Spartans.

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The Suture class of MJOLNIR GEN2 was specifically tailored to the needs of Spartan Combat medics. But all indications show that it never actually left the prototype stage.

rich scroll
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I wonder how a spartan medic would even work,what tools would they use?is there anything special a spartan needs?what do they carry,are there adrenaline or plasma shots,anything similar to a stim shot?i wonder

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Thank you bird

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# rich scroll I wonder how a spartan medic would even work,what tools would they use?is there ...

So Spartans in general have highly advanced medical equipment onboard their armor, and the armor itself can support the physical needs of even a crippled Spartan. Spartan IV Stone managed to fight on despite nearly half her bones being at least cracked by the impact of a Ghost with the help of in-suit adrenaline reserves.

A Spartan Medic would likely find their skills more suited to treating normal humans and xeno auxiliaries than other Spartans, but their kit would likely include ways to get pieces of armor off of other Spartans and ways to treat other Spartans without disrobing them from their armor.

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If a Spartan in the field is trying to make sure another is in top fighting condition, it may well call for them to be as much a medic as an engineer.

rich scroll
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That makes complete sense honestly

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I woulda asked about their armor and brought up the machinery and gizmos they got inside

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But typing with one hand right now

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rich scroll
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Thats pretty freaking wicked though

rich scroll
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Donating plasma rn

empty bloom
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Okay then.

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Anyways, yeah. Spartans are also pretty well versed in basic UNSC first aid and most basic infantry in the Halo universe at least knows how to apply biofoam. You don't need dedicated medics as often as you do in real life's battlefield.

rich scroll
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Oh i remember the foam

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Ultimately, most Spartan "medics" are likely going to be rolled into Spartan search and rescue/pararescue teams or embedded mixed units such as Beta-5.

rich scroll
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Didnt they use it on the one guy in 3 odst

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Yep, to seal a punctured lung.

rich scroll
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Hell yeah

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Whats beta-5

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Combat teams developed primarily to leverage the skillsets and capabilities of nonSpartans and Spartans in hybrid taskings.

rich scroll
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Oh so backups to fill in needed positions?

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Nope. Teams from the ground-up intended to work together.

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Kinda like how Kilo-5 had ODSTs working with Spartans.

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Just ONI instead of ODSTs.

rich scroll
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Oh right on

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What’s oni again

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Dare from ODST.

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People like her.

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Highly skilled field agents who have specialization in various catagories, from wetwork assassinations to intel roles.

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Spartans presumably would operate as both SME's and force application in most field roles in Beta-5 units owing to their physicality and knowledge.

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Subject Matter Expert.

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Come to think of it, I'm kind of surprised we don't hear about more ex-Beta 5 Spartan IVs. It seems like the kind of environment that would breed endorsements for Spartandom.

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Ex-Beta 5 Spartans being normal crazy good individuals turning into Spartans correct?like bucky

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All Spartan IVs were exceptional troops.

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Either due to innate talent, or innate intelligence, or some other factor.

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UNSC was not left wanting for talent.

rich scroll
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Oohh IVs are the normal people being turned into Spartans?and there were no kidnapped kids?

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Yep.

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Unlike IIs and IIIs, IVs had to earn their position.

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Instead of being born lucky (and/or orphaned).

rich scroll
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So thats why theres no II’s snd III’s as medics because they were all trained and coordinated for specific/other things from youth

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After all that 343i will probs try to suddenly say that Spartan IIs had one bajillion Medic teams called "Spartan Cyan Team" just to spite me like they did with Yellow Team and Spartan II Combat Engineers.

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I see you, lore team. Don't let me down. Make me sad.

rich scroll
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So they like contradicting and retconning bs i see

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No?

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I just know that they tend to randomly bring up Spartan II teams that existed because there really isn't a lot of foundational lore on II team makeups that's ever been solidified.

rich scroll
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Have you made your own Spartan for fun bird

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Probably several as any Halo fan has

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I think everyone has (customization) chiefsmirkle

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cries

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Who I go to lengths to write as nonbinary. Partially because they're something of a malformed runaway self-insert and partially because I like the writing exercise of writing a nonbinary character.

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I tend to go to far lengths when it comes to making Spartan characters normally, but Bannerman's supposed to be a cut above in terms of how much effort I go to.

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Really, I hate a lot of Halo fanon because a lot of people don't update their OCs with new knowledge and tend to just throw caution to the wind. "My Spartan knows Chief/Buck/whoever important, they're super cool"

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But like, if you're making fanon you should keep it as far from the canon universe as possible. There's plenty of Spartans lightyears away from whatever the Infinity's doing, there's already a capped number of IIs and IIIs, so you might as well make something special out of a IV or make a character doomed to die as a IIIA or IIIB in their death runs.

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You should make it so that it fits seamlessly into canon.

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Exactly.

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If you don't, it's pointless to me.

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Like, people tend to go too 'big' or whatever

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It's silly

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Your Spartan doesn't need electrical circuits to power a hyper unique super weapon. Just make them prefer a BR85 over an MA5D or something.

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Kit out for the situations and their job, and if the job's too goofy, you either need a good explanation or to go back to the drawing board.

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Vale's the most "Meh OC" Spartan that exists, IMO, and half of that is because her dad's a coulda-been II.

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No, Pararescue would deploy to save people trapped behind enemy lines or in adverse environments.

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They fit more in the medic/airborne infantry/SERE specialty.

rich scroll
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Bruh

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It's a real job for most modern Air Forces.

stoic hamlet
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Also civilian outfits, to a lesser extent.

empty bloom
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Yep. Comes with less shooting potential in that sector though.

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Mhm

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Okay apparently i cant say the f word

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Cool and heell then

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Yeah that works

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Dang lost my whole long message

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# last anchor Probably several as any Halo fan has

Yeah i just found out people do(which makes sense as people do for literally any form of games or shows/media) and it got me interested in making my own,so i redownloaded halo infinite to see what armors i can get,and why im asking if theres any spartan medics because i think having my guy be one would be cool as Heell,also because i enjoy playing supports and medics in games

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Also, a Spartan would make an excellent Pararescue operative as A) they can carry absurd amounts of medical gear on person alongside their combat load and B) in the right armor they don't even need a chute or an entry vehicle or device

Just BASE jump raw in armor to the field

orchid kettle
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I think its just a matter of newer writers not fully grasping that couching the character in the history of the franchise isn't the same as making them a product of the setting.

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orchid kettle
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Also honestly I feel like any contextless summary of major characters, official or otherwise, will come across as ridiculous.

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I think there's also just like this paradox inherent in storytelling where a writer needs to be vulnerable and genuine, but on some level also has to understand that the story isn't just for them anymore and they need to leave enough wiggle room for the audience to bring something of their own to the table

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Not sure why there would be medic specialist for Spartans. if you need anything more than what the Gen 3 can fix then it's either you're dead or you need ICU

rich scroll
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Yeah i was worried about that

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Thats why i wanted to know first

orchid kettle
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Ah, but who else could possibly transport a downed Spartan to an ICU

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besides the legendary forklift man, of course

carmine sleet
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Plus Spartans ain't cheap, so investing in medical specialists who work specifically to help keep them alive only makes logical sense

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Obviously that doesn't mean that at all times there would be a medic who specialises in Spartan health care near every Spartan but still, be bad if a Spartan died on an operating table due to a leg injury getting infected or something

orchid kettle
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Im also pretty sure the job of a medic is to make sure you survive long enough to make it to a hospital, not necessarily just heal you up back to full HP right then and there.

rich scroll
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I saw this piece of armor in infinite that had a little robot arm on its shoulder and thought it would be really useful for if the person was patching someone up,either to hand over tools,stitch up an open wound,or to help disassembling armor pieces to get to heavily damaged arteries or limbs,ill try to find a picture of it

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# wispy pewter Not sure why there would be medic specialist for Spartans. if you need anything ...

  • Physical volume of regeneratives is limited and not all Spartans carry first aid equipment beyond onboard systems and maybe a IFAK or two. A dedicated medic, by nature of the job, is going to carry refills and redundants of medical supplies. They are likely going to be toting additional regen field equipment, if they are so specialized. Redundancy is incredibly important for sustained military operations. To ignore it is to concede to death.

  • A medical-specialized Spartan is, by default of their job, going to know more about Spartan (Which is different than normal human for IVs) anatomy than a comparative non-specialized human medic.

  • GEN3 might not function quickly enough to save a life in the field, while another Spartan could. It took Horvath over a month to recover from being heavily impaled; With actual medical assistance, he would have healed faster.

  • A Spartan medic's capabilities to assist nonSpartan personnel in a medical capacity, including their ability to rapidly think of solutions, as well as leveraging physical mass to assist in recovery (A Spartan IV bearing down on a broken open artery could likely clamp it to a shut capacity far easier than a human could).

  • A dedicated Spartan medic would be crucial for any recovery operation for CSAR teams or PJ teams. Any recovery operation with wounded personnel involved, in fact. While all Spartans are trained in first aid, specialists have a more involved skill set, and thus can focus more heavily on that tasking to greater impact in the odds of success.

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If you can't think of the 'why' a combat medic Spartan would exist, frankly, you aren't thinking hard enough. Most real world line military specializations have a good amount of justification for representation in Spartan fields, and can leverage the physicality and mentality of Spartandom in ways condusive to the Spartan's chosen specialization.

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If you cannot see a problem past the immediate for Spartan deployments, which can be for literal years of deployment behind enemy lines, you really aren't thinking laterally enough to have your rejection of the medic Spartan concept be considered a serious engagement.

rich scroll
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WHAT DID I SAY WRONG

empty bloom
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Yeah, you gotta be more careful with what you say.

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Well

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that was a long message too

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Dang

empty bloom
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Usually the system sends you a DM to tell you what you said.

rich scroll
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I probably said “difficult as frick” without the frick

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Or something like that

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Darn

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Second time you had to be told that to my memory.

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Lmao.

rich scroll
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I wish i could like,see the whole message so i can copy and paste and fix it

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I am not re-writing that

empty bloom
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Meh.

rich scroll
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Either way, specialization of Spartans is something that is simultaneously over and under considered.

rich scroll
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I am here to consider it then

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Like, all Spartans are skilled and generally well rounded

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But a specialized Spartan's also kind of the norm. Chief is kind of an exception because he functions like an underequipped commander.

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Both in rank and equipment.

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Like, I still don't think there is any confirmation about what Mark VI is actually explicitly meant for. it's a general purpose variant of a general purpose armor that seems to run off of specialization.

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But then you have

Linda, Kovan, Madsen - Dedicated Snipers.
Tanaka - Combat Engineer/Armor technician/Hacker (Presumably on that last one, it would come with Halo's territory)
Vale - Alien culture SME/Scout.
Kelly - Scout.

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And whatever the hell you want to go with for Noble, which kind of defies expectations because at least two of its members are not equipped for what they are good at.

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Carter and Jun are fine, but Kat, Emile, and Jorge are all sorts of messed up.

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Kat wears an armor that has nothing to do with tech or hacking or anything of the sort, though apparently that sort of savantry is rare in the Spartan ranks. She carries a tablet, but that's not on her model.

Emile is kitted as a Grenadier, but he actually doesn't wear anything that would indicate it. By virtue of carried ordinance alone he's the actual grenadier of the squad, in terms of the actual origin of the name. He doesn't do combat engineering, despite the description of his chest, and EVA makes no sense with any part of his loadout because he doesn't work in space. He operates with offensive non-emplaced explosives more than any other member of Noble, to boot; Rockets, Grenade Launchers, HE grenades, and frags.

Jorge wears Grenadier equipment, but he's the dedicated gunner. I get "Grenadier" is a fast and loose term by today's date, but Emile functionally operates as the actual Grenadier. Not to mention, literally any member of Noble could tote around an MMG, so I don't get why he had to act all special about it. He just seems added to be "The big guy" but otherwise functionally just... One-note, in a role that kind of seems superfluous for how he actually gets used.

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Then with Red Team, nobody really seems to have a real 'role' beyond Jerome, because everyone else is toting SMGs, MMGs, Rocket Launchers, Spartan Lasers, Hydras, or Shotguns as gameplay and cutscenes demand, with Jerome being just "Leader guy".

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kat uses nord vpn

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You have the sniper character, but again, everyone is expected to have unparalleled, supernatural levels of marksmanship by virtue of being a Spartan.

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Obviously you say the sniper character is even better or the "big guy" is stronger than the average supersoldier, but it all feels like a meaningless distinction to me when Spartans sit on top of the food chain anyway. Barring like, Spartan on Spartan violence, I suppose.

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Which is not to say that a writer can't come up with situations that showcase the characters' unique strengths even when they're all superhuman, I just found it more appealing to roll them back into normies and make it so only the sniper character displays any impressive feat of marksmanship, and the big guy any display of strength.

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I just have him as the pigheaded one. Which basically just is Romeo or Sparks from Sunray 1-1, with the added dimension of him being some disinherited rich kid from Luna.

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which I guess they're all just an example of "What if the trash talker, much to the frustration of everyone around them, actually does have the skill to back it up?"

sonic lagoon
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Do battleships exist in Halo?

wispy pewter
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Is there any lore for the new infractor mjolnir in halo infinite? I haven’t been able to look recently

stoic hamlet
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Though, “engineers” feels like the wrong term. I’d probably use Signals Intelligence units, but it’s what the armour description uses.

fast heron
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Def one of my new favorite because of how cool it looks lol

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Looks like a combine elite

brisk jasper
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what are you on about. who got crushed between 2 cruisers?

stoic hamlet
wispy pewter
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the buzz lightyear looking dude

stoic hamlet
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No that’s Solomon.

runic wharf
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How do Hunters make sounds

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Like how do they roar and yell

patent patio
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Maybe all the worms squeal together

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glass walrus
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When did Meridian gain its indipendence?

orchid kettle
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"The Covenant glassed this planet in '48. It was a UNSC colony then, but we never came back. Run by a private corp now, chipping away the glass, making her livable."

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I don't think it was ever stated exactly when the corporation came in and took over.

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# runic wharf How do Hunters make sounds

I dont know but I always assumed it was a group effort to produce a sound with their bodies vibrating together or something. Individual worms screaming together doesnt seem like itd get deep enough

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I was trying to say ash and I got autocorrected to

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Lmao

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What I was trying to say, chief in shielded mjolnir gets whooped by the first brute he sees, ash trades blows with jiralhanae as an unarmored spartan 3

unique rune
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Wasn't John super worn out after everything with Installation 04 and FIRST STRIKE by this point...?

muted raft
stoic hamlet
orchid kettle
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First Strike is also trying to hype you up for Halo 2

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which is why Blue Team glaze the Battle Rifle, and why the Brutes and their Brute Shots are so formidable.

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But I think past a certain point, it was just decided that it'd be fairly unreasonable to have Brutes at the same ridiculous durability and ferocity seen in First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx when they're also supposed to run in big packs

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Can a UNSC Paris Class Heavy Frigate using its entire arsenal, take down a Covenant Corvette?

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silk marten
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To be fair its such a crazy statement that it feels like a hypothetical ideal situation rather than like, any honest description of how the match up would usually play out

silk marten
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Ok, now I'm pretty sure one of the main reasons the Covenant gave humanity such a hard time was because they just kept coming and coming. They did outnumber humanity for sure as I know

orchid kettle
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Well back in the Nylund books, its a bit weird. Its portrayed as humanity only ever being able to eke out the victories they do because they outnumbered the Covenant in those battles.

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And even then, they take heavy losses.

silk marten
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Yeah. The only thing that was most efficiently effective against covenant fleets were ODPs

orchid kettle
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And also because for one reason or another, be it stupidity or the Sangheili concept of honor, the Covenant ships usually just rush in and fought to the last man

silk marten
orchid kettle
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That's basically the only way humanity has a chance.

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And I suppose also just because its kinda natural for defenders to have an advantage when holding a fortified position versus attackers

silk marten
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Whenever a covenant fleet finds a UNSC controlled world it's certainly not a matter of if you can keep the planet but how long you can last defending it. Even if they defeat said Covenant fleet initially it's just better to immediately evacuate everyone as possible off the planet before the Covenant shows up with yet another fleet

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such as trying to get ahold of the Sigma Octanus crystal

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Men o'war the big spaceship in halo 5, what is?

glossy sun
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It's an early Sangheili ship

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I think it's like a fast attack ship

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"The R'sikosh-pattern man o' war is a class of Sangheili warship used prior to the War of Beginnings and during the Blooding Years."

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It's 526 metres (1,730 ft) long so yea it's in the corvette and frigate range

wispy pewter
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Does that mean it's ancient

wispy pewter
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I wonder if christmas is still celebrated in 2560

strange pumice
wispy pewter
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Yeah I mean where Naomi is from the swedish colony still eats
Surströmming or some thing

stoic hamlet
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Most colonies have a specific “donor” population.

Harvest was midwestern URNA. Reach Hungarians. Madrigal Spanish/Latin Americans, etc.

glass walrus
carmine sleet
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Wouldn't surprise me

orchid kettle
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ancient thistle
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im at combat evolved still

unique rune
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just play in release order

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I’ve never heard of a fiction series where chronological order is worth the trouble of working that all out

ancient thistle
unique rune
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Sure? You're not really missing out on much if you don't but they're fun enough to play through

wispy pewter
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glass walrus
carmine sleet
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Counterpoint, pineapple great on pizza

latent junco
glass walrus
empty bloom
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The only people who get up in arms about pineapple on pizza are people who are WRONG

thorn spindle
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Yea it's good 👍

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obtuse nova
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Hi

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I’m new here

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What shalt thy do

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Also pinaple don’t belong on pizza imo but you do you

wispy pewter
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If it doesn't belong then why is Hawaiian Pizza still so popular

winter wigeon
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The only place it’s served

winter wigeon
wispy pewter
latent junco
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Hawaiian pizza is actually Canadian I'm pretty sure

stoic hamlet
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Correct.

glass walrus
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Halo Battle Born was great
Halo Meridian Divide is no

steel stone
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I have a question that just dawned on me what is the chimera armor? it looks sort of high tech organic looking what is it?

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Is it forerunner mixed with spartan armor?

orchid kettle
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Honestly the way it appears, it just is a cyborg

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If you equip prosthetic options for the arms and legs, it just removes a bit of armored plating, implying the limbs are already artificial

steel stone
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damn

unique rune
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Chimera/Executors are some sort of human enhanced with Created-Forerunner tech

steel stone
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Thats really cool

orchid kettle
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Its probably like Robocop where its mainly just a head and a spinal column at best in a robot body

steel stone
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o_o ow

carmine sleet
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It should be noted that the first Executor is the guy who left the datapads across Reach

steel stone
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back in the reach and still to this day I always thought the pads were useless and talked about randomness unrerlated to whats happening in the game. What were those???

unique rune
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Executors are (mostly hypothetical) Created supersoldiers that use Chimera armor

steel stone
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They were around during Halo Reach?

unique rune
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There's only one that is explicitly stated to exist thus far but all the other armor that's been made for the core in Infinite exists as some sort of theoretical design data

orchid kettle
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"Born from the ashes of a failed AI uprising, the CHIMERA core offers a unique vision of a potentially dangerous digital future where artificial minds and augmented bodies become one.”

steel stone
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Failed AI uprising so Halo 5???

unique rune
# steel stone They were around during Halo Reach?

The datapads in Reach were about someone coming across an organization of advanced AI called the Assembly. Executors did not yet exist at that point but apparently Sloan (the Liang-Dortmund AI from Halo 5) captured the person who was writing the datapads after they'd escaped Reach at some point and used them to create the first Executor, likely sometime after the Created started to break apart.

steel stone
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How did they make advanced AI when the covenant was destroying most of every human planet at that time?

carmine sleet
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It definitely seems like Sloan made them into the Executor in response to Cortana's death

steel stone
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Thats really interesting learning about, lore stuff like this I wish was more integrated into the main games story more

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What happen to the created in Halo Infinite? Cortana did go crazy for a bit but it sort of ends in a way that didnt feel finished

stoic hamlet
steel stone
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I forgot about dumb AI thats true too

orchid kettle
steel stone
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The encyclopedia just kinda says "Oh man, we don't know what really happened to the Created after Cortana's death!"

orchid kettle
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and he's basically the one responsible for inventing the Executor

steel stone
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You see a crashed Guardian in the background in Halo Infinite on while playing. Did the brutes take the Guardian down?

carmine sleet
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Unknown

steel stone
patent patio
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Maybe when Cortina died, the thing just died

steel stone
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Talking about it they could do alot with Halo 6, imagine the Warden is the one controlling the Guardians now

patent patio
last anchor
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Warden's no longer in play

glass walrus
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So empty throne will explain how the created conflict has finished in the other places in the orion arm?

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Milky way

muted raft
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In retribution doesn't veta have the gammas get surgical smoother implants? Why are they back on pills during point of light

orchid kettle
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I assume the idea is that the implants don't just secrete the smoothie juice indefinitely, so eventually they just ran out and needed to take daily doses

carmine sleet
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You know, it's a shame we didn't get a story attached to Cyber Showdown III, I wanna know what's going on exactly here

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muted raft
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I'm almost out of books

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Epitaph and empty throne are all I've got left

glass walrus
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Do i need to read the comics to understand something in the novels?

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stoic hamlet
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They had the implants, but they had the doses as a contingency.

stoic hamlet
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It’s just meant to be neat looking art, really.

carmine sleet
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Yeah... I just wish it was something they did decide needed a story about it

stoic hamlet
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The executors still seem very early stage.

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I could see Sloan thinking the sole one he has being unable take a Spartan, if we go by lore portrayals, and not visual media.

carmine sleet
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Aye

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It wouldn't surprise me if he's currently got the one that does exist doing as many covert ops as possible until he finds someone else he thinks is "worthy" to become one

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Like, it's unlikely he has the resources to go full Cyberman on a planet's population without it being obvious

stoic hamlet
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Yeah.

And the galaxy is quite large, despite what 343/HS present.

The sole Executor could probably have gone around just the former Covenant worlds for a decade or more and no one would know.

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Even pre-created.

Space is big, and there’s a lot of people around, and a lot of settled worlds, stations, etc.

orchid kettle
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Personally I like the idea that Sloan has more than Executor waiting for us for when we finally return to the galaxy after Infinite's story

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There's just in general seems to be a rise of knock off evil Spuds, so if there's Jannies, Zane, and maybe corpo spartans, I don't really see the point of being super timid about Executors

carmine sleet
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I wouldn't mind there being a buildup. Like maybe Sloan is seeking to basically go full Cyberman and make an army of Executors, but he's starting slow first because he's smart enough to realise that he needs to get the resources to

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Then when he's ready, he begins abducting people to convert

orchid kettle
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I kinda like the idea of a post-Cortana faction that uses those concept robots as basic fodder, and the Executors as the Spartan equivalents, naturally

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Maybe that Halo 5 spider bot that would have attacked Chief on Meridian could actually be in a game

carmine sleet
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Maybe

empty bloom
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I always figured they'd go with lower tech promethean equivelants.

orchid kettle
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I just want robits that bleed oil and explode into debris

carmine sleet
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Give me some cyborgs like the forerunner cyborg Elite concept

orchid kettle
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Prometheans dissolving was a cool effect at first, but now I think its too clean

carmine sleet
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Well thankfully it was exclusively the Knights that disolved for every time they were killed, Crawlers and Watchers left behind remains unless killed with more powerful Promethean weapons

orchid kettle
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I remember really enjoying how the robot enemies broke apart in Binary Domain

empty bloom
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There's a reason why brutes are the most fun enemies to fight in Infinite, and part of that is because they look like they fall apart when you kill them in terms of debris.

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Same reason why Doom's gore system is so cool.

carmine sleet
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I kinda wish the armour pieces that fall off were applied to other enemies in Infinite too. Like let me shoot an unshielded Elite's shoulder and see the shoulder armour fly off

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Or bring back there being a chance to shoot off a Grunt's mask so we can see their ugly methane breathing faces clearly again

empty bloom
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I don't get why they only did that with brutes and sentinels, tbh.

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They clearly understood why it was important.

carmine sleet
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My guess (And I'm gonna sound like a broken record) is likely just a case of time and resources needed to be used elsewhere

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Ok but like, imagine how cool it'd be if you could outright destroy a Jackal's shield gauntlet if you landed a shot in the right spot

orchid kettle
orchid kettle
carmine sleet
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I'd be down for that as a mechanic

muted raft
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Did the castoffs ever get their ship?

stuck hearth
wispy pewter
stoic hamlet
stuck hearth
mental mirage
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So lore question regarding Cortana in Halo 2 and 3.

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I know at the end of Halo 2, she's in High Charity, being tortured by the Gravemind.

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Is she just there, being tortured, for basically all of Halo 3 until we get her in Cortana, the next to last mission?

carmine sleet
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Yes

orchid kettle
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Yup, you can even read about it in Halo Evolutions, in the short story "Human Weakness".

obsidian thistle
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I forever love there is canonically a San'Shyuum with his ABCs tattood on his face.

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No reason to it