#lore-and-universe

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pearl oasis
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I wonder what UNSC food rations would taste

cobalt quiver
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I wonder if Moa are extinct

humble yacht
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I halo? No

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In the real word? Yes

cobalt quiver
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yeet

gusty star
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Chosen Warrior

compact hinge
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why isn't the UNSC using chemical weapons against the aliens

astral crypt
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Anybody reading the books here? I’m on Halo: Envoy right now via audiobook

gilded mason
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Not currently reading them, but I have read (most of) them

strong rose
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gilded mason
astral crypt
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brazen grail
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They're called Chosen Warriors in the encyclopedia. Basically small lance commanders

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I find the rank names a little weird. The minors in blue are called warriors. Pretty sure every Brute is a warrior. lol

dense falcon
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Better than Elite Minor

brazen grail
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They're calling the minors mercenaries now

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For elites

stable flower
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That's what happens when you shoehorn things in

minor sky
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How big is a War Sphinx?

unique rune
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Cryptum describes them as being 20m long and 10m tall.

Though I would imagine there were probably various different models of War Sphinxes that would have varied in size and configuration.

sharp silo
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kind of

minor sky
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I do think the War Sphinx has a cool design

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Minus the face on the frount

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what was up with 343i giving faces to all the forerunner stuff in the Halo 5 era

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I do think it is neat how it kinda looks like a pelican

fair hazel
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Promethean stuff has faces.

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Part of the culture

steady olive
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Ok

minor sky
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The Guardian having that grin just looks dumb imo

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Heck, I'm not even aposed to some stuff having faces, some of the guardian concept art looks fine. Its just a bit too many things have it and a lot of the time it feels like it takes away from the design than adds to it

versed helm
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What did the Innies call the not Innies?

humble yacht
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Unsc

versed helm
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Yeah but not everyone is UNSC

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like did they have a slur for people loyal to the UEG?

humble yacht
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Not every non-UEG civilian was an innie

versed helm
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Not what in saying

humble yacht
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We don’t have conversations among innies about how much the ueg civilians suck

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When they talk, they talk about unsc

versed helm
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It's us vs them mentality

The us are the people who want independence from the UEG

Now them

Them can't just be UNSC for that is just the military

So maybe Loyalists? Facists? Idk

stable flower
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I assume they call them stooges

versed helm
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Stooges? For the UEG loyal?

humble yacht
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That’s not what they really call them but I imagine ATP is projecting how he thinks innies view UEG citizens

versed helm
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Good enough for me thanks

versed helm
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What are some good books about the beginning of the insurrection?

humble yacht
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Your best bets would be contact harvest and fall of reach

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Insurrection conflicts are always gonna represent minorities of the plot

versed helm
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These two are the best? F I already read them

humble yacht
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No, but they cover the earliest periods of the main conflict in halo

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So that’s where mentions of early insurrection conflict will be

versed helm
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Oh man I hoped there'd be a dozen books completely focusing on the early insurrection

humble yacht
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Nope

stable flower
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I wish there was.

versed helm
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And yet we get all this new afterwar content but nothing in the interesting parts of halo lore

unique rune
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“Interesting” is all a matter of opinion and quite frankly I’ll take post-war content over “humans shot at each other centuries ago,” though it would be nice if 343 would stop panicking and trying to soft reset things every time people react poorly to their work.

versed helm
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Agreed on all points

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In the end I can just read fan fiction and be happy

stable flower
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versed helm
last anchor
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Its in Halo Evolutions.

versed helm
versed helm
last anchor
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Ye

versed helm
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Thanks

last anchor
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Its a short story by the same guy who wrote Fall or Reach, First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx

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Silent Storm also features several prominent Innie characters

obsidian thistle
zinc walrus
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so the grunts work for both the brutes and the elites

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its sad when try to run away

obsidian thistle
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Honestly they havent had the best of luck lately

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Humanity actually tried to help them after the war.

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But Cortana messed that up by offering the Unggoy a better deal.

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Only for the Created to essentially come crashing down.

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Then a lot of Unggoy are essentially thralls in the Banished. Bred and grown in thrall colonies. :/

stable flower
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Grunts have a lot of allegiances.

thin lynx
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Ive played every halo game but odst what’s it about?

shell tartan
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The short version of it is; You're an ODST in an ODST team, you go to Mombassa during the events of Halo 2

dense valley
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you start playing 6 hours after the covenant slip spaced

untold wasp
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because why not

shell tartan
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My guess is because it runs off 3's engine

untold wasp
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should of just been called halo: odst

humble yacht
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Should have just been called Halodst

gilded mason
humble yacht
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Revoke these plasma grenades

gilded mason
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😲

stable flower
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So if a corpse is decapitated, can the Flood infect it?

gilded mason
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Yeah

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Head ain't needed

shell tartan
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The flood use the nerves to make things move

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That's why when you shoot of a Combat form's head it keeps coming

versed helm
lilac lava
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Can anyone link me a good vid/document/post of the halo 2 story and some lore that you wouldn't be able to know about must ftom cutscenes

ornate hinge
versed helm
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I love that game I used to play the campaign over 5 times q week good timese

lilac lava
stable flower
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I wonder how Harvest went six months without contact.

visual orbit
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Setback after setback

fair hazel
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meridian had places without contact

turbid coyote
gilded mason
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Ya gutter-mind. 😏

dense valley
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Odst kinda overrated ngl

lyric berry
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It’s a marine but with cooler armour but lore wise dies to the same number of shots it takes to kill a marine aka 1

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They could tank one shot I guess but barley

stable flower
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A marine whose armor should've been standard-issue.

lyric berry
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Imagine getting training to go out of drop pods, cqb, and more only to get one tapped by some methane breathing goon with a funny green shooting gun

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Because in lore, even the damn plasma pistol was a force to be reckoned with

last anchor
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That’s why you use cover

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unique rune
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That sure is a sequence of... words that might mean something.

loud fjord
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I usually go for games that have great game play first, but a great lore is a major selling point especially when married to the game play like Halo did.

lyric berry
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My dad somehow played every halo game and without even reading an ounce of the lore, understood almost all the lore

gilded ether
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The lore doesn’t matter anymore

boreal bane
fair hazel
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Viper

gilded mason
dense valley
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that is all that needs to be said

versed helm
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We have yet to see the connection of the new faction to the precursors (possibly) on the dlcs. i am interested on what atriox would do and the endless

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And finally the Mantle of responsibility has many interpretations and im curious on what this philosophy has to show in the later dlcs

lyric berry
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Bruh I can’t find a copy of first strike or evolutions in my local Barnes & Noble. I remember they used to have it, but they shrunk the sci-fi section down to but a shelf or two

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And I really don’t wanna order Amazon

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Last time I did for my copy of fall of reach, it was slightly damaged and overpriced

versed helm
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lyric berry
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I have to relly on some person explaining the plot of the book instead

versed helm
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the only availables are the new books like renegades from 2018- today but are still rare

lyric berry
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Yeah I remember they used to sell much higher quality covers

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Like a wax texture made it comfortable and long lasting

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Now it’s some cheap thin, and dull paper that feels awful and makes the art look worse too

versed helm
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i want to get my hands on the forerunner saga and kilo 5 trilogy

lyric berry
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I have the kilo 5

versed helm
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but so far only glasslands and silentium are available 💀

lyric berry
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And the forerunner

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Really?

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Cyrtaniun or something isn’t??

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Ah hell

craggy sierra
lyric berry
versed helm
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only silentium is available on our loca online stores

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amazon is too costly

lyric berry
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That sucks

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Ik

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That’s why I won’t buy a book off their store

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Better yet check something like idk Walmart, they usually sell things only online. I found the Witcher book I wanted from there at a cheaper price than Amazon

versed helm
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do they still print the books?

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microsoft must release them

craggy sierra
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Or that it looks worse

versed helm
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Forerunner saga, kilo 5, fall of reach and ghost of onyx is my goal

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sadly it may take a while to get these

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the tv show could have boosted halo novels if its good and sticked with the timeline at least but ehhh

craggy sierra
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TV show could have done a lot of things and it didn't and now I'm kinda just hoping it quietly dies before season 2 makes it to air.

versed helm
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😢

lyric berry
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I’m sorry

versed helm
fair hazel
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I can’t wait for the new book

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Also I want the lore from the latest canon fodder. All that stuff to appear in more canon works

deft coral
clear vortex
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I don’t think I’ve enjoyed watching a new movie for a few years

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I haven’t enjoyed watching a tv show since like last year

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And most notable video games are broken buggy messes when they launch

humble yacht
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merry oyster
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Anyways

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Were Halsey and Keyes ever married during the games' universe?

loud fjord
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A couple since they had Miranda, but I don't recall anything legally binding.

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obsidian thistle
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Some cool new lore in hard to reference places! But hey so you lot know how the Trapmaster's Map got lore in a canon fodder last week!

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Source (but it may not show unless yer signed in hence me posting the lore/image for yer convenience): https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgkf3LCMpd-

Enjoy!

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With a few days remaining of Alpha Pack, there's still time to complete your free Event Pass and unlock the Trapmaster's Map.

This wrist device provides Spartan operatives all the localized cartographic data they could need while out in the field.

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Instagram
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It got some new lore on Instagram! The Trapmaster's Map actually saved Eklund in the past! :O (and she wishes it was in Orange. A wish we share aha)

quartz beacon
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Where does brohammer find an infinite number of fully intact vehicles for the chief to ride in?

scarlet quiver
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Yeeeeaaaaa?!
How many have to fall planetside for Chief to find so many hogs in halo 5.

quartz beacon
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Another scorpion tank??? Chief! What are you planning to do? Arrives 5 seconds later

obsidian thistle
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Gameplay may not be "fully" accurate to canon.

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I'd reckon at least 1 of each vehicle.

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Maybe 2 if he is lucky.

loud fjord
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Halo 4 shows that hogs can survive half a ship crashing into orbit, so brohammer finding hogs ain't too far fetched

quartz beacon
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How does brohammer fly to the ship, retrieve a warthog with no help, and fly back to chief within 10 seconds??? Brohammer must be really good.

untold wasp
quartz beacon
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Lmao

velvet pulsar
clear vortex
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scarlet hinge
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you just missed it lol

grizzled bough
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I wanted to get a complete a complete list of all the weapons in halo lore and all the cut weapons. I also wanted a list of concept weapons for the existing ones. What should I use to get this info, halopedia or something else?

scarlet hinge
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this place is probably the best place to start - there's way too many to simply list on one page

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but the categories drilldown there should be a start

grizzled bough
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Ok, thank you!

scarlet hinge
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if you go on the search bar and type Cut Halo (X) weapons there's a load of cut content articles detailing those, too

grizzled bough
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alright

scarlet hinge
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if there's anything specific you're searching for lemme know, as i'm on the staff team so I can probably find it

grizzled bough
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Ok, this is a huge help, if I need anything else i'll let you know

scarlet hinge
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👌

obsidian thistle
scarlet hinge
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despair

obsidian thistle
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I was specifically waiting for Instagram after we got that Canon Fodder aha!

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Its not a lotta new info bar tidbits. But is nice to know Eklunds thoughts and that it saved her a few times.

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(Kinda hoping if Eklund appears in pre-2559 media we learn one story)

last anchor
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I wanna know what she did with Crimson. Thats like...the one time they've been mentioned outside of Spartan Ops, right?

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Also very cool the maps canon, I wish there was an arm piece to put it on though, it clips through a bunch of the right arm attachments.
I cant wear it on Rakshasa with the Doisac's Kiss cause the blades go through it.

limber moon
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halo lor:
mister chef

fair hazel
fair hazel
last anchor
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Cursed clipping...oh well, thats just how it be.
The HIGHCOM shoulders clip through your arms if you get certain poses at the game start screen so.

humble yacht
last anchor
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Oh, the CMA one?
Didnt think of that, hang on...

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Still clips a bit but way less than before. NICE

loud fjord
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Sigrid was in fireteam crimson, but Hiue is the one with red armor pieces, they should have switched that.

obsidian thistle
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The Mega Set is significant as it introduced Crimsons canon Emblem. XD

last anchor
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The one from Halo 5 right?

empty skiff
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i want to know everything......and i mean everything lay it on me

last anchor
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Halopedia

obsidian thistle
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In all seriousness though. Yea Halopedia is the right place to go! :)

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You could spend hours there. (I've spent years on it aha)

scarlet quiver
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Halopedia gets me through work.

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They have a lovely "random" button, where it takes you to a random page.
Keeps me busy at work and i learn about halo things i never would have known about. Plus it shows how much hard work people put into Halopedia that most people dont see.

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So totally bookmark it.0

dense valley
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i kinda hate how it doesnt show pictures

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like when i wanted to look at the vehicles

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and most of them had no pictures

humble yacht
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There are generally images at the bottom of the entry pages

untold wasp
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and i think some don't have pictures to use as a reference

humble yacht
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I imagine that’s because pictures of those said things don’t exist

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Oh I guess that’s what you said already

last anchor
obsidian thistle
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We try our best

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But often yea

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No images is a common occurance

tranquil basalt
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How much does a spartan weigh with armor

tawny fox
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Quite a lot I think. I think it’s stated that the reason why the lifepod failed during the escape in Halo CE was because it exceeded the weight limit due to chiefs armor

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Which is why everyone else on board ended up dying in the crash

untold wasp
fair hazel
fair hazel
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A spartan is like under half a ton in MJOLNIR

last anchor
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~1000 pounds is the number I hear most

versed helm
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why halo had some of the best names

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usnc ships

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covenant too

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even the sci fi fantasy forerunner saga still retains it

stable flower
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Banished dreadnoughts seem to start with 'Ghost of'

desert anchor
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Entire Halo Story in 5 Sentences, GO!!!

last anchor
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Space Gods Screw Up Everything

dawn knot
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Flood decimates everything several times

minor sky
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Shout out to Lieutenant Jet, the real MVP of Halo 5's story who with his ablity to activate emergency slipspace allowed the Infinity to escape

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minor sky
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I honestly think it would have been cool if Infinite had the UNSC and Banished been stranded and deadlocked for control over the ring

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Just because I don't think we've ever gotten a Halo game where the two factions are on equal footing

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hw2 maybe?

humble yacht
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That’s because from a storytelling standpoint, stakes feel higher when the reader is looking at things from the perspective of an underdog

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And the ultimate payoff of the underdog succeeding is higher because of how much extra they had to struggle

minor sky
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Idk, I like the idea of Chief waking up a year into a war

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And being able to turn the tide

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Heck, the Banished and UNSC wouldn't have to be like on totally equal footing, the Banished could totally be gaining an upper hand when Cheif is found or something

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I've seen other people suggest this, but you could have Chief land in Banished territory at the start and then be able to link up with UNSC forces on the ring

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In my head the Banished would have already been on the ring being lead by Escharum when the UNSC and/or Created show up, something with the Created would happen leaving Cortana to be MIA and both Banished and UNSC forces being set back and now in competition to rebuild and take control of the ring

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this is all rough idea in my head mind you

dense valley
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chief is never really an underdog since he's won every battle he was in

humble yacht
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He lost against atriox

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He also sorta lost against Didact

dense valley
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in what way did he lose to the didact

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he killed him

quartz beacon
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Stuck him with a Rubik’s cube and didact went boom I think

humble yacht
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In halo 4, Cortana saved Chief, otherwise he would have died

versed helm
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wait… was that pinged?

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💀

humble yacht
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Yes

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frigid kernel
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Ok ok

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Hear me out

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If you know the red vs blue halo lore, then you know what freelancers are, SO WHAT IF halo multiplayer is just unsc spartans vs freelancers

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Ik that's bs

deft coral
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The Didact appeared in one of the comics, I think Master Chief and Blue Team finally killed him

terse lava
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He didn't die in the comic either, just got composed

versed helm
last anchor
# frigid kernel If you know the red vs blue halo lore, then you know what freelancers are, SO WH...

The Freelancers would get their faces stomped the moment they realized their "armor" is about as combat effective as tissue paper against proper MJLONIR.

-No shields
-Limited, if any, strength amplification
-Occasional, unstable and variable usage upgrades
-Occasional support from rampant AI fragments created through a completely illegal and dangerous process with ZERO oversight or command/control.
-And armor plating made of something that resembles titanium A because normal bullets punch through it far too easily.

And thats not to even get into the fact that Freelancers, biologicaly, are for the most part simply unaugmented (mentally and emotionally unstable) humans whereas Spartan-IVs are post-human monstrosities with extra organs and one step down from 40ks Space Marines in terms of capabilities.

Carolina and Washington could probably hold their own, for a little bit. But as soon as Carolina gets mad shes getting tricked into being repulsored off a map, and Washingtons knife skills will only last as long as it takes for his opponent to realize how he fights, and unfortunatly for him, S-IVs have rapid muscle memory archiving. I'd give him about 5 minutes.

Tex's artificial form would be discovered within a minute or two and someone would get the idea to set of a plasma grenade behind a wall, the resulting EMP shorting her systems out and leaving her ripe for a face-stomping.

And thats if its S-IVs. The higher up the chain you go the worse it gets.
S-IIIs, especially Gammas, are terrifying drug-fueled monstrotisies that fight harder the more they get hurt. Not a good combination.

And of course, the S-IIs...It'd be like facing an NFL team gainst 6th graders.

It would be brutal. It would be glorious. And one Freelancer is probably going to end up embedded in the roof.

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Rooster Teeth paid bare minimum heed to Halo's existing lore and did their own thing, as all machinimators to this very day do. But as a result the lore of the two series simply cannot match up, and so, doesnt.

Honestly thats for the best since having RvB be part of canon would be a nightmare of a headache for both involved, because Halo's storyline is wide and varied and RT would probably have a hard time keeping up with it, considering their inability to write good shows now (looking at you RWBY)

frigid kernel
last anchor
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Zero isnt canon.

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Zero is a joke

humble yacht
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It is canon to RvB. As much as I don’t like it

minor sky
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Why is RVB still going at this point

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Most of the original cast is gone, the storyline ended pretty well with the Chorus trilogy, even with 15 and 17 being pretty solid seasons

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Zero's only real saving grace was that the fight scenes were awesome

humble yacht
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Because RT still wanted to make it and there was an audience for it

minor sky
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Do we even know if they're planning a new season?

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I mean, given how the sinking ship that is Rooster Teeth is currently surviving off of duct tape and a few buckets, I wouldn't be suprised if a new season hasn't been announced in any capacity

humble yacht
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Rooster teeth isn’t sinking as much as you may think

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They’re still putting out consistent content, even if it’s not large animation productions

minor sky
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They're still putting out content but they still got issues behind the scenes, and their parent company who funds most of their stuff is considering selling them off, and having content doesn't equate to making a profit

humble yacht
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Well unless you’ve got quarterly reports showing their hemorrhaging money then I’m skeptical to take your assessment as truth

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People love to say something is failing just because it isn’t putting out things they enjoy, it really has made the term “fail” lose its meaning

untold wasp
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but their equipment is cooler though

terse lava
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I figure the only thing the Freelancers would have going for them would be the Meta, with all its fancy abilities it gained from the others

frigid kernel
untold wasp
terse lava
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ok?

untold wasp
terse lava
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all good

last anchor
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The huge size, the durability, the gravely voice. Probably suffered a Soren situation.

terse lava
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maybe

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though while they hinted at lore stuff, don't recall how RT really handled it

last anchor
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They didnt (tm)

terse lava
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figured

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speaking of, while it was Maine's body and armor, wasn't he just a meat puppet at that moment for the Meta collective within the armor?

last anchor
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That came later I believe, after he got shot in the throat

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Sigma was someone else's AI and they gave him to Maine so he could communicate after having his laranx removed with half a magazine of SAP-HE

terse lava
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ah, figured he was pretty much braindead by the point the Meta gained control

last anchor
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Based on what Ive manged to piece together he willingly let Sigma take control. He was conscious, but Sigma tricked him (more or less)

terse lava
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ok

visual orbit
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We talking red vs blue?

digital venture
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One of my favorite things in halo lore is that one time when they were trying to make an ARG and people went to call the arg DURING A HURRICANE so they had to break character and yell at them to get the hell outta there

mortal solar
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i was playing teh sacred icon mission halo 2

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and then the sound track in the background was so frickin scaryyy

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why do they make flood themes so scary
thats why i am afraid of floods

tribal escarp
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the flood are supposed to be scary, they're literally a parasite zombifies hosts and the hosts in some cases are fully aware they're slaughtering their former comrades

lavish garnet
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So… when Master Chief is pulled in by the Pilot at the start of Infinite, and the pilot then shocks him to wake him up… what is happening there? It’s like they are rebooting a robot. Is he in a coma? Is he just unconscious? Has his suit put him into a comatose state? What is the shock doing?
Same goes for the start of Halo 3 I guess as well

unique rune
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Has his suit put him into a comatose state?
Presumably it's probably something like that. Some sort of hibernation mode, I'd imagine not dissimilar to cryosleep.
Plugging him into the Pelican would've then just brought the suit out of 'survival' mode and woken up its occupant.

next jacinth
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Because they are on the one place that can’t be affected by a halo ring

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Although it depends on how it affects them. I remember it being stated that it “kills their food” but then it said that it destroys the nervous system which should be able to kill all of the flood because they control the nervous system

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Maybe I missed something

bronze delta
stable flower
next jacinth
humble yacht
limber moon
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The Flood kinda fell off ngl

frozen nexus
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^facts

stable flower
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Seeing as they were cleaned up real fast on the Ark to the point that not even stray Flood forms are remaining (judging by Divine Wind), I agree.

visual orbit
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The janus key and the Librarian need to make a comeback

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It was such a big thing

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Then poof

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Gone

minor sky
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Welcome to 343i storytelling

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1- introduce big plotline
2- wrap it up in a comic or book or something or just don't commit at all
3- introduce a new big plotline
4- repeat

hushed gale
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So it always baffled me as to how technology disappeared over time? Like why aren't rhinos in any of the main games even though halo wars is pre-ce? Shouldn't they have at least appeared in 4 or 5?

humble yacht
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Could simply just be that rhinos weren’t added because of gameplay reasons

hushed gale
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I mean it was one thing when they magically forgot what assault rifles were in halo 2

humble yacht
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Nobody forgot. Bungie purposefully excluded them from h2 for gameplay reasons. Canonically the assault rifle was still in the universe

scarlet hinge
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there hasn't been any situations in any of the main games (except maybe Reach) where self-propelled artillery has been appropriate for the situation at hand

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Halos 1 and 2 focus on isolated Marine detachments on the crews of cruisers and frigates - these vessels wouldn't be carrying a ground force large enough to warrant its own SPGs

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furthermore, just because a thing doesn't appear in a game it doesn't mean it's not being used in universe. We have plenty of artwork showcasing assault rifles used in New Mombasa at the same time as the Halo 2 levels

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like this image of Master Chief* using one

*ignoring semantics that aren't useful for the discussion at hand

tall flax
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I forgot the lore so can someone give me a caveman explination

humble yacht
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You’re better off reading summaries on halopedia or watching a lore summary video

shell tartan
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Lore of what

hollow ingot
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What happened with the cyclops after halo wars?

scarlet hinge
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nothing, it still exists

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the Mark IIIB suits in HW1 are mostly combat engineering vehicles for the military, or used in civilian industrial applications - so they just haven't shown up too much as there've been relatively few opportunities

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one did show up in the 2010 reprint of The Flood though; 1LT Oros uses one to unload supplies from the Pillar of Autumn's crash site on Alpha Halo

stable flower
last anchor
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Makes far more sense for it to be a Cyclops

scarlet hinge
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?

last anchor
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In the original release its just "a power loader" and the description makes it basically sound like the one Ripley used in Aliens

scarlet hinge
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i'm pretty sure they never specified a mech at all in the original print

last anchor
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Theres a few other oddities in the book where Dietz's Marine corpsman experience bleed through.

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Hang on, I got the original release let me go check

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Yeah, designated "loader-type exoskeleton"

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This is also the same chapter where Oros says "semper fi", which a lot of people got mad about because the UNSC Marines are NOT the USMC Marines In Spoace

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But thats grognard stuff so

scarlet hinge
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god forbid a simple phrase might endure through the centuries, of course

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it's not like that's how language works

humble yacht
boreal bane
untold wasp
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horvath is the best spartan

visual orbit
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Horvath is one of the only Spartans alive on zeta halo

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He's a chaf

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Chad

fair hazel
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I want to read it already

next jacinth
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looks scary tho

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untold wasp
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from what i heard

fair hazel
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My usual book stores don’t have them yet

versed helm
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I might get it online

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I’ve read about 5 of the novels in the last 6 days

fair hazel
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Oh wow. Impressive. Very nice

crude sigil
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yea

quartz beacon
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Why does the banished place highly explosive substances right next to their most powerful weapons and turrets? Seems like a really big oversight.

golden shard
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Maybe it's a fuel or its just to be protected

humble yacht
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Gameplay reasons

untold wasp
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dang, sorel wasn't in fireteam shadow

fading arrow
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Johnson could've made it out of the arc alive

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Chief didn't check his vitals so for all we know he could've just temporarily gone unconcious and his armor had a gel layer that regulates temperature, plus he was part of the orian project so he could've healed fast enough to get off the arc with any of the air vehicles left behind by covenant and unsc forces

humble yacht
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Nah he ded

fading arrow
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Still a possibility though, there are places that could've shielded him from the halo ring

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Like maybe a nearby halo ring like zeta halo

humble yacht
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Nah he ded

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Zeta halo wasn’t anywhere near the ark

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Besides, even if Johnson somehow survived being blasted by spark (which he didn’t), he would have died when the ring blew up

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Either because explosions are deadly or because falling back to the ark would be fatal

last anchor
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One does not simply survive having their organs cooked by hardlight

versed helm
fading arrow
# humble yacht Either because explosions are deadly or because falling back to the ark would be...

There were vehicles scattered throughout the ring whuch he could've used to escape from the explosions and possibly find shelter on another halo ring, plus his armor had a gel layer which could've reduced the injuries to a burn wound on his back and he survived the orion project (first attempt at making spartans) and he was almost infected by an infection form which made his body heal faster

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And if he was able to make it off off of the halo ring he could've found another halo ring far enough to escape the blast which he could live on

humble yacht
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There is literally no canonical way Johnson survived, his death is confirmed, please only use this channel for actual halo lore. For headcanon I recommend fanfiction.net

unique rune
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UNSC MC BDUs don’t have any sort of gel layer, where is that even coming from?

stable flower
woven plaza
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Iirc, 4's marine armor was

last anchor
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Yeah, doesnt look like its topping those supressor shots to me.
God I really dislike 4s armor I really dont know why

last anchor
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Also dont forget; he fell down a giant hole so

woven plaza
last anchor
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Tis k

gilded mason
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You're thinking of Halo Wikia/Halo Nation

last anchor
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^

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Fanon is entirely seperate and utterly terrifying in their dedication and intensity
I tried being with em for a bit. I couldnt hack it. They're too good

woven plaza
latent crypt
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That didn’t kill him. Old geezer probably just took one of those naps

knotty niche
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how tall are grunts

obsidian thistle
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Love the Halo Fanon peeps, a buncha dedicated fans they are and some are good friend with moi.

I unfortunately dont read their stuff (dont wanna get Canon mixed up with Fanon by accident) though if they ask me something (or any of the Halopedia team) I will toss an answer when I am able! :)

scarlet hinge
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then i just admin halopedia while actively writing fan AU stuff

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the sigmachad experience

untold wasp
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ya 4-5 ft

stable flower
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Since Banished drop pods explode after the occupant leaves, I wonder if someone could hack into them and make them explode prematurely.

humble yacht
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Cortana probably could 😔

cobalt quiver
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What did Mark V B have that Mark V didn't?

quartz beacon
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The b

untold wasp
humble yacht
quartz beacon
drowsy mesa
fresh zinc
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are noble six and Kat siblings or is this by coincidence that they share the same birthday? (jan 30 2530)

unique rune
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They’re not related

fading arrow
untold wasp
gusty star
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Lmao

cobalt quiver
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What kinda modularities did mark V b have? Just armor pieces?

Also is it technically superior to mark V?

humble yacht
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Different armor pieces for different roles

unique rune
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unique rune
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Uh, no it doesn’t.

fading arrow
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Even if it didn't have a heat reducing gel layer johnson was almost infected by the flood on alpha halo which gave him unique regenerative abilities that could've helped him heal fast enough to escape

unique rune
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Escape from what, the control room that was exploding and falling to bits around him?

dense falcon
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They all have to heal through conventional method

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What you may be thinking about is Boren Syndrome which gave him immunity to the Flood due to his nervous system being altered

gilded mason
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Him having Boren Sydrome was a coverup to hide that he was Orion, though he doesn't have Flood immunity anyway.

dense falcon
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Well, not immunity, but they say yuck

humble yacht
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It was retconned out. Now the official story is he never got infected at all and just fought his way out with superior skill

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Staten didn’t like the idea of someone having flood immunity

fresh zinc
stable flower
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Johnson should stay dead TBH. No need to bring anymore characters back from the dead.

dense falcon
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The Colossus is a great unit though 😤 👌

terse lava
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It was a nice unit, gives me Chromehound vibes

rugged arch
# gilded mason Him having Boren Sydrome was a coverup to hide that he was Orion, though he does...

Is that something confirmed in Halsey's journal? Because in Silent Storm we get to see that halsey definitely knows about Orion, and despite that she says Johnson may have acquired some amount of extra regenerative ability from the failed flood infection, just that she can't prove it. If Boren Syndrome was intended to be a coverup for his status as an Orion subject, I would assume she would've explained the regenerative ability away with that as well, instead of just saying she can't prove if he even has it or how it happened

gilded mason
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Yeah, that was all back in the early lore days of First Strike and the graphic novel, so retcons eventually happen and all that.

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Is that something confirmed in Halsey's journal?
The BS coverup thing was from the Graphic Novel

rugged arch
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ahhh'

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I've only gotten around to reading the books, havent ventured all the way into the graphic novels and other stuff yet

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also listened to hunt the truth but that hardly adds much to the lore

marsh garden
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Does anyone know What happened to captain cutter?

humble yacht
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He’s still at the ark

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With the rest of his crew

heady geyser
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Still at the ark

sudden tree
untold wasp
sudden tree
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yeah 20.april

last anchor
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The irony of Johnson being less immune to the Flood and more just "yuck":
He himself stated that they "Crawled over and away from him liek a bad steak at dinner" and went for his Marines instead.
So, little bit of fridge brilliance by Nylund

last anchor
stable flower
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How SOF still has troops is beyond me

grim elk
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how do the halo rings fire

empty radish
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is cortana deleted?

grim elk
empty radish
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k

tulip ferry
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how do the halo rings work?

humble yacht
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Phase pulse generators that disrupt neural kinetics, including neuro-physical constructs

tulip ferry
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i gotlike none of that

gilded mason
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Causes the death of things that make use of nervous systems. Which also includes structures made of neuro-stuff.

humble yacht
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Basically it bakes your brain box

tulip ferry
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ohh thx heh

minor sky
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Does anyone else find a good chunk of Halo Escalation's art to be, well- bad?

abstract wren
minor sky
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Ight, good to hear

scarlet quiver
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Yep.

fading arrow
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even if it was possible for him to survive i doubt 343 would bring him back cause that would invalidate halo 3's ending even more

gilded mason
fading arrow
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think the endless might just be evolved precursors

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the harbinger drove a human to insanity just with something she said so it is possible

stable flower
last anchor
abstract wren
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and the Boren Syndrome is now not a true one, it's only a cover up for Orion modifications

last anchor
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I think it exists, Johnson having it is the cover up

abstract wren
unique rune
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They used it as a cover up, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist as a disease in the Halo universe on its own.

humble yacht
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Yea it wouldn’t be a very good cover up to make a fake disease that no one has ever heard of

last anchor
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It’s mentioned in Ghosts too, medicine for it is what the Innies wanna trade nukes for

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So it must be real enough they know about it

minor sky
obsidian thistle
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Yea its believed that Borens Syndrome is actually real. But its a hotly debated subject due to its long historical use in the fiction as fake or "They are really Spartan-I's".

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Honestly it can go either way

humble yacht
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Don’t we only have an N of 1 for using it to cover for spartan I augs?

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While I recall it being mentioned in one of the recent novels as a disease a non Orion had

obsidian thistle
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The same Encyclopedia also continues the narrative that there is other ways to get the syndrome

grim elk
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what does berutsu mean in sangheili

vital compass
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Can someone please explain to me what happened to the guardians and the promethians after halo 5?

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Because I genuinely to this day still dont know what happened to them

humble yacht
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Do you mean between h5 and infinite or after infinite

vital compass
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Between 5 and infinite

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Because 343 keeps doing time jumps and it’s confusing trying to piece together lore outside the games since I haven’t touched an actual book on like 3 years💀

humble yacht
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None of the books really go too much into what the prometheans were doing

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In between 5 and infinite they basically just solidify their hold over the Orion arm

grim elk
crisp grail
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U guys are cringe save this for Dungeons and Dragons

cobalt quiver
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How much Autonomy do the banished clans have? Is it like the US with state govs and federal gov?

versed helm
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At the end of Halo 3, the Primordial basically says something along the lines of, lighting the ring will only delay the Flood's plan to destroy the universe, and we know that Halo doesn't kill Flood, only their food, so any chance the Primordial will return later?

humble yacht
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It’s not really the primordial anymore

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The primordial’s consciousness is certainly part of the flood, but the flood is more than that now

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Also halo’s do directly affect flood; specifically higher flood forms like combat forms, pure forms, graveminds

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Individual spores may survive a halo pulse

obsidian thistle
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Imagine having bodies you legit couldnt use. Thats what Halos would do in a lotta cases.

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(Assuming the solute wasnt present which it couldnt be in most cases)

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But the Graveminds consciousness (and all it consumes while its present) is beyond our understanding of how its "stored". We cant destroy that element of the Flood, more push it back till the next Flood infestation creates another Gravemind.

versed helm
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I can only imagine what Primordial said to those humans that caused them to kill themselves.

obsidian thistle
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Its legit horrifying that if you are infected by the Flood. You are essentially immortal in a sea of voices that is the Gravemind

versed helm
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Keyes...

obsidian thistle
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Keyes has hope as a fully formed Gravemind wasnt formed

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But anything during Halo 2 and 3.

versed helm
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Is it... safe to say all the red on the Installation 05 Gravemind's mouth is... blood? His own blood or that of flood victims?

obsidian thistle
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I'd say thats up to your interpretation

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Impossible to say what makes up the I05 Gravemind tbh

versed helm
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Considering it was originally going to have skulls for teeth, I think my question is answered.

humble yacht
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It’s unlikely to be blood as blood doesn’t remain that shade of red in dead tissue

thin yew
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His gums, basically.

versed helm
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Red flesh isn't so far off. So is gums. In the classic graphics, you can see bones alone the tendril that holds Regret.

quartz beacon
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boneless gravemind would taste better

humble yacht
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Bones add flavor

quartz beacon
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Pesky bones in my flood combat form drumsticks

fair hazel
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I finished reading the book

twilit nacelle
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Can anyone fill me in on what happened to Osiris after Halo 5? I know they’re unpopular but I think it’s a shame if their story just gets dropped and ignored

humble yacht
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They returned to infinity and then did their own things

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Buck went back to leading Alpha Nine, Locke went on his own missions, vale eventually went back to sanghelios, and not sure about Tanaka

sharp silo
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Locke did something on Zeta Halo, but considering his helmet is on Hyperius´s shoulder I don´t think he made it

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he was on Infinity, said a lot in audio logs, and just vanished. Then Hyperius used his helmet / head as a shoulder piece.

dense falcon
twilit nacelle
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flat kernel
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There is one of the brick sets that has a figure of Locke out of his armor, so it’s plausible he was captured, lost his armor, then escaped, and that was meant to be part of infinite’s story, but was cut.

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He might be coming back if there is actual dlc, but with all the drama at 343i, don’t count on it.

twilit nacelle
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Drama? I’ve been pretty out the loop with all things Halo since December, what’s going on?

versed helm
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What exactly inspired Sadie and Virgil to work for ONI after the Battle of Earth, was this perhaps thanks for rescuing him when the Brutes wanted him dead?

last anchor
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Oh right todays release day. Man I dont think Im gonna be able to snag it...curses...
Well, I doubt its gonna fly off the shelves at my local store so

last anchor
twilit nacelle
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Oh right

last anchor
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Indeed. Overall it has effected the lore not that we can tell. Though we did have a pushback on Outcasts, but thats more do to Troy Denning being the old and having physical problems than anything with the fanbase

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Speaking of I havent heard anything on that for a while, hope hes doin okay

burnt pulsar
humble yacht
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I’m pretty sure there’s been no confirmation either way

flat kernel
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I’m pretty sure the only reason we know he is still around in infinite is a mega blox set, and even then, using a toy set as evidence for lore is a bit shaky.

last anchor
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Till I hear otherwise, Im going to assume he used his helmet in the same way Palmer did to destroy a Phantom (except in this case as a bludgening tool) and left it behind as a result.
Assuming it is of course actually HIS helmet and not another Hunter class...etc.

obsidian thistle
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Did we see a body is a good excuse to use.

dry oyster
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What the best way (or at least a good plan) to defeat and overpowered flood form with direct forerunner technology? Playing as the UNSC and by this time the UNSC Eternity is also finished, and the Sol System is moving up towards a Tier 1 civilization. Several factions are also supporting the UNSC, and are directly in the Sol System with the Home fleet.
What would be the best way to combat this flood version? UNSC ships number around 1000, mostly smaller ones such as frigates. With at least 4000 supporting ships by the Space Nazis, Communists, a Federation, and a S&R/Security faction known as OES. OES is the smallest.

last anchor
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The Im sorry WHAT

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Also just...burn it. Direct Halo strike.

dry oyster
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Flood has access to the only ring in the universe

last anchor
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Neural physics works on them quite well once they're in the organized stage. Trigger the array.

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Make another one.

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And tell whoever else is thinking this up they're really really really dumb.

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Because this sounds like something from Spacebattles

dry oyster
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I mean thats possible, but the UNSC is working with a Tier 0 faction known as LUCA. (Pretty much a sentient sun)

last anchor
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Well if thats the case you can pull whateve ryou wanna outta thin air because this stopped being lore related a LONG time ago

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Have em make, I dunno, a sun crusher from Star Wars.

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Maybe a Xyston class with a superlaser on it

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Giant mobile MAC weapon platform

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Have Eternity start busting planets

dry oyster
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Dont have much time left. So I might be able to convert the dyson sphere into a space laser...?

last anchor
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Just tell the person running it they're a moron and to go touch grass

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Go right for the gut, make them rethink their life choices

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Meta-strike

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Cause in all honesty, my dude, there is no answer from lore because this is well and truly beyond it

dry oyster
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Huh, I guess godmodding doesnt seem a bad idea

last anchor
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When in doubt, go for the gut. Especially on something like this.

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And then, literally just...stop.

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Because if you actually had to come to the main discord to try and find out an answer for this you are well and truly beyond the reach of mortal man and into the nerd zone

dry oyster
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Haha you aren't wrong

last anchor
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Once you are in the nerd zone there is nothing to do but get OUT before you start getting stuck into stuff like 40k or worse.
SPACE BATTLES

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I wish I could give you a canon option but at this point...yeah

dry oyster
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I think there is a 40k faction

last anchor
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Of course there is.

dry oyster
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lol

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I rolled a 1, and the beam emitter is successfully built

obsidian thistle
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Well this isnt a spoiler so I can put this here and is cool enough to mention. (Please keep story discussion in #485883236430512168 however.)

But hey Halo: The Rubicon Protocol is in its own series now. "A Halo Infinite Story". (Or "Halo Infinite" as the book listings say.)

So I guess we'll see more stories in that series down the line! :)

Source: The backcover of the book, and novel listings before any story starts.

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That makes discussing these books easier when more release! :)

last anchor
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Similar to the Master Chief Stories Denning did?

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I am...entirely with this

obsidian thistle
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I'd say so yep.

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Tbh every Halo novel outside really standalone ones (or ones that couldnt be grouped up) have official groupings since Divine Wind.

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(I'm still drafting up a Page for the wiki. That will be a tomorrow gig. Thankfully this isnt a vital task till a second thing gets released, but hey I'll still get it done lol)

minor sky
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Would it make any sense for the Created to still hold power in areas of the Galaxy, albit under other A.I.'s control? Or nah?

last anchor
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Looks like everything’s been reorganized too. The formerly unnamed series have titles now

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humble yacht
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Which lacks the widespread affect the guardians had

obsidian thistle
last anchor
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I didn’t think to look at its cover so lmao

obsidian thistle
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I just love that its essentially the groupings we at Halopedia did!

last anchor
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I mean how else you gonna group em XD

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They’re nice and concise, now we got names for em

obsidian thistle
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We originally did it the "release order" route. Only grouping up Kilo-5, and the Forerunner books.

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It just made 1 unwieldy list

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No one liked it lol

obsidian thistle
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Well "series"

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Plus we can discuss stuff like Star Wars books now

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XD

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No one says did you read "Dark Force Rising". They say if you read the "Thrawn Trilogy" lol

last anchor
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That is a massive benefit imo

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Though I always called it the Kilo 5 trilogy anyway so

obsidian thistle
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Well if the series already had a name (The "A Master Chief Story" ones weirdly get two names) then they stuck. XD So that never changed

last anchor
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Fair

obsidian thistle
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I do find it fun that Halo now has a TOS

fair hazel
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Had to get digital copy this time, finished it of course

minor sky
#

Who wrote those Locke/Arby cutscenes for H2A?

versed helm
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I believe 343 as original cutscenes, you can say the entirety of H2A is Arby recalling his adventure, remembering his first encounter with his brother and how he saved the galaxy, right before they fight on Sanghelios. It served as a teaser for H5

humble yacht
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Ultimately those H2A scenes ended up being non canon, as the events where Locke met Arbiter played out differently in the actual game

last anchor
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Dissapointing, truly

versed helm
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The brotherhood between Thel and Chief barely existed in 5 sadly.

fair hazel
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What brotherhood

near tide
sharp silo
obsidian thistle
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They only fit in however after Osiris saves Thel enroute to the campsite.

stable flower
unique rune
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I mean I feel like people put a weird emphasis on the relationship between Thel and John to begin with.

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They have one single interaction in Halo 2 and over the course of Halo 3 they don't really have much meaningful interaction.

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Unless they were up to some hardcore team-building exercises while en route to the Ark I don't think their relationship is as strong as people make it out to be.

quartz beacon
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They were colleagues

humble yacht
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They were never alone outside of action and battle so it’s not like they had opportunity to hash things out and develop a relationship beyond temporary allies

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At most, one could argue that the animosity between them went away due to them working together for the good of both their species in halo 3. But that hardly makes them friends

grim elk
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so is seargant johnson a spartan I?

versed helm
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He is.

humble yacht
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Was*

idle lintel
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yeah

versed helm
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That is most apparent in CE when the flood shows up.

humble yacht
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but we never see him actually kill flood in CE

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iirc his character model gets murked by combat forms at the end of the level (on higher difficulties)

versed helm
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Me running CE for the first time on Normal and he gets stuck and dies.

On the second level.

minor sky
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Also they had a golden opportunity to have Arby return the nod back to Chief in 5

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Like, it would have been so simple to have them land on Sanghelios and for them nod at each other, and then have Halsey say her thing

stable flower
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But instead, they put it in a book.

grim elk
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i wish instalation 02 had more lore

tawny fox
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Yeah to call Arbiter and Chief “friends” is pushing it given the long history of war and bloodshed between their respective species. I think they do have a mutual respect for one another though as allies in combat. Their bond was forged for the simple fact that they had a common enemy which was the hierarchs and the covenant at the time.

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Oh and the flood I should add

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Which is the case for the whole alliance between the humans and sangheili in general

meager hedge
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I still find the duo epic bros in the story for h3. Kinda like duo Marcus and Dom for GoW. Awesome imo

tawny fox
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They are a badass duo though

meager hedge
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They are as I said. Fr fr epic

tawny fox
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But yeah years of bloodshed and war definitely isn’t something you can just make up for with a drink at the bar lol

meager hedge
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Like bruh Arby and Master Chief duking it out against the covenant and flood? Both story and gameplay made sense especially with co op my brother was neat (bruh this typo rip)

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I also like the two other elites who companies the main two. I found their small lore interested to read since we can play 4 splitscreen in h3, so who's the other elites? Now we know haha

tawny fox
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I also love when they escape in the frigate arby actually checks back to make sure Chief actually made it in the hangar and they give a nod. You can tell he at least cares enough about him to make sure he got out alright

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There was definitely some amount of respect between them

versed helm
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Thel can't be forgiven for 1 billion human deaths and 7 planets ruptured, but still.

meager hedge
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Yeah fr obviously there's bad blood between their history. But like putting aside from that and being professional as soldiers for what it's at stake shows a lot. Though bungie did more show then tell, since they don't talk each other much. Like some respect and trust gg

versed helm
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He saved the galaxy when he killed Tartarus, he ended the Human-Covenant war.

tawny fox
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He also got chief and Cortana out of there before that ring fired. I’d greatly respect him for that

versed helm
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Hell, I got kills in Flood Firefight, and Friendly Elites go, "such a deed strengthens the bond! ....Brother."

meager hedge
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I always like the elites variants and lore, like how they did for Halo Reach with small quotes. Felt so cool and good unlocking each elite character to Duke it out in multiplayer

versed helm
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Don't forget, Chief went into the hive of High Charity alone, expecting to leave alone too, Thel was busy rounding up everyone so they can head through the portal, but he went back for Chief.

humble yacht
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Arby and Chief’s relationship is nothing like Dom and Marcus

tawny fox
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And there’s many points where chief had the opportunity to kill Arbiter and vice versa but never did. Arby could have just left chief to die at the hands of Spark when he knocked him out of the control room but stayed and even tried to intervene.

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That also says quite a bit

humble yacht
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Yea, that says that they both understood the situation well enough to realize it would be better to help each other towards a common good

tawny fox
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Exactly

humble yacht
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You don’t need to be friends to be civil

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Besides, arby needed Chief to activate the ring to stop the flood. And if Chief had killed arbiter it would have likely resulted in the elites attacking humanity again

last anchor
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They were allied, but probably little else.

minor sky
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I've been thinking on this more and more, and....

I don't hate the 343i Elite design- except the face. That is the biggest turn off for me, even in a vaccume, it just doesn't work for me

humble yacht
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I never cared about the face. I just don’t like the exposed arm armor

minor sky
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That too, though I don't hate it on some designs

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And there is the issue of how they've already been designed to look big and imposing more than last time, and maybe adding more armor would make them too bulky? Idk

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Like there is a lot I like, but yeah, its not quite right

versed helm
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how did the san shayuum fight in a war with the sanghelli? Were they all crippled looking like the prophets?

minor sky
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Superior firepower

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They took Forerunner tech and used it to make weapons

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While the Elites saw the Forerunner artifacts as sacred and not to be messed with

versed helm
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got it ty

meager hedge
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For that part, I thought they were good awesome characters bungie let us Duke it out in campaign while epic games did a good job with theirs too but yeah

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solemn zephyr
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Just saw ppl on Reddit argue who would win in a 1v1 sword fight: Jega Rdomnai vs Arbiter so I'm curious what do you guys think.

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It has to be Jega right? His sword, camo and shields are at least 3x stronger than Arbiters + he had a better training (Silent Shadow) while Arbiter was basically just a random gold Elite

humble yacht
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Thel was a zealot so he’s no slouch

gilded mason
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Jega's just an edgy piece of cardboard, while Thel was one of the most successful fleet masters in the modern Covenant.

humble yacht
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But silent shadow were the best of the best.

gilded mason
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So the true answer is: Rtas would win

humble yacht
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They were dangerous even without weapons

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That one ex silent shadow with castor walked around in nothing but a loincloth and nobody messed with him

gilded mason
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Gadogai >> Jega 😌

solemn zephyr
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YapYap >> Rest of Halo universe

humble yacht
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Silent shadow is who the prophets would send if they wanted to kill Thel

versed helm
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Speaking of Rtas, who was he to Thel before he failed to save Halo? Or was this their first time meeting?

gilded mason
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Rtas previously served under Thel as his SpecOps commander

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Both of 'em were at 04 together

versed helm
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He lost all respect when he became an Arbiter, and as time went on, things seemed to return to normal, Rtas was gonna glass Earth if Thel didn't argue on humanity's behalf. By the time Truth and Gravemind were dealt with, it was like old times.

Seems like what goes around, comes around.

last anchor
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Wouldnt say he lost respect.
"This armor suits you, but it cannot hide that mark."
"Nothing ever will."

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More like, he had no choice but to treat Thel that way because he'd become an Arbiter.

versed helm
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I felt the line that came after really gave off a feeling of, "If you die, I'm gonna miss the part where that's my problem"
Though that could he just me.

"You are the Arbiter, the will of the prophets, but these are my Elites, their lives matter to me, yours does not.
"That makes two of us."
"Hmm."

last anchor
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I think its left open to interpretation intentionally.

versed helm
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Another thing to wonder, it surely can't be because he's player controlled, but what makes the Alpha Nine Rookie so impressive while in New Mombasa?

obsidian thistle
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Well for all we know Rookie hid from a lotta combat. 🤷‍♂️

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Gameplay not being canon makes knowing every deet impossible

versed helm
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Shame about what happened in the books.

last anchor
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My headcanon is Rookie spent most of his time in NB just kinda...sidling through the shadows, avoiding everything he could.
Its dark, its raining, hes wearing jet black armor. The Brutes never saw him.
Also the persistant wailing jazz distracted them because they wanted to find this annoying lone jazz musician and eat him, but they never could.

versed helm
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And of course, nobody is gonna question skill when driving a Scorpion

last anchor
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Well yeah, and he only drives one later on, WELL after stealth time is over

versed helm
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He definitely killed a cop in canon

humble yacht
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Do dirty cops really count

versed helm
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I wonder how Kinsler looked after the unenlightened masses were done with him.

humble yacht
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Probably looked like one of Jonah’s kebabs

last anchor
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Im still convinced Jonah survived.
I know he doesnt show up again but Im absolutely convinced someone like, stole a truck and worked his way through the traffic to get him out.
Some local kids or something he was always giving kebabs to

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Hes set himself up with a kebab stand in the same market that Streets takes place on.

humble yacht
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You been hitting that copium too hard, bro

versed helm
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I wonder how well his cleaver skills work against Covenant cannon fodder.

last anchor
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Let me do the math real quick.

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Considering he was heavy enough to literally rock a cars suspension, and a lot of that might be muscle considering he seems able to move preatty easily...
Dang. He'd be able to crush a Jackal's head with a single meaty fist.

versed helm
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I wonder if he could punch a whole through Proto Gravemind Keyes

humble yacht
loud fjord
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Brutes enjoyed Jonas kebabs as well

humble yacht
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i think they just enjoyed Jonah

zealous coral
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Heh do you like the covenant or the unsc

humble yacht
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I like the created

zealous coral
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Nice

stable flower
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Me too

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If only the same could be said for the community

zealous coral
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I like the covenant

zealous coral
terse lava
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Sucker for the spirit myself

zealous coral
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😁👍

minor sky
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Does the "O" in the Halo logo have any significance in canon or is it strictly a stylistic thing?

gilded mason
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Latter

fair hazel
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I wonder if they were like

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What if that O was the halo and it was shattered, and that was their inspiration for infinite's ring state.

grand iris
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How deadly would you guys think the requirements would be for Spartan IV's to join the headhunters?

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With the III's being tasked to complete 2 or more special missons

sharp silo
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I think they just take the best of the best for that

finite pagoda
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Hello

fair shale
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Is the suit thing a real thing or made up

gilded mason
fair shale
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I think made up. But on the other hand it might be something they were pressured into making cannon.

gilded mason
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it might be something they were pressured into making cannon.
lol

humble yacht
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No

last anchor
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It was something made up by a teenager who thought he was funny, tried to bring it to the actual lore community (the online one, not 343 of course) and was promptly bullied and shamed into hiding.
Occasionally he pops up, to claim he did it, only to be hammered flatter than that Grunt at the end of Contact Harvest, the Deacon.

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I met him once (apparently).
If its the same guy or a legitimate troll I do not know

grave pollen
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What suit thing

obsidian thistle
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Nothing ya need concern yerself with. Its a fanon thing that should be left behind.

last anchor
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Related but does it seem to anyone else that MJLONIR gel systems tend to get bonked around a lot? I feel like that’s one of the most commonly smashed systems

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Wonder if it’s more fragile than some of the other stuff. Though even MJLONIR has its limits.

minor sky
humble yacht
last anchor
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The gel layer and it’s regulator yeah.

fair shale
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Is noble six dead or did they bring em back in the comics

last anchor
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No ones come back in the comics.
They only added to the bodies

fair shale
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Ah ok

stable flower
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Well Didact did

last anchor
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Hes not dead. "Contained" by Chief's words.

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Same cant be said for DeMarco and Black.

versed helm
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Yep, Didact didn't die whatsoever.

dense valley
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Is Fortnite canon

wicked nimbus
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...

last anchor
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It was, until Chief showed up. At which point reality itself began to fracture for them as the colorful alt reality began to suffer existentcial dread.

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Only exacerbated by the arrival of Marcus Fenix and his 30 years of PTSD which began to tug at it even more.

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To be fair the reality began to bend once they slapped JOHN WICK in there and its really only gotten worse since

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Presumably the fact Wick is in both Fortnite and Payday 2 is causing issues as the reality of Fortnite was not meant to take the full throttle adrenaline of Payday and its pushing into it via Wick.
The grimdarkness of Gears isnt helping and of course the eternal power of the Spartan frays on it as well

wicked nimbus
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Also, isn't there a Spartan in Destiny? How would they have even gotten there

last anchor
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Who knows. They mangled the M6D I know that for sure

stable flower
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I forgot about Didact's status, 343 has just abandoned him

obtuse sky
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I could have sworn I heard he came back and died in a book or some side content. 2nd hand info though

wicked nimbus
obtuse sky
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alright so he's as 'not dead' as the humans that make up the promethean knights. his body is gone and he has been 'composed'/digitized.

last anchor
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Hes contained in Cheifs words

dense valley
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Whatever the hell that means

hushed gale
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So I just noticed page 34 of the Halo CE Prima guide has a picture of a cut Engineer model...

odd dirge
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are there any measurements for the barrel size/spike dimensions for the skewer? thinking about how one would go about designing a skewer irl.

humble yacht
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Check halopedia

odd dirge
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no answers that i saw there

humble yacht
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If that’s the case then it likely means no such specific info has been published

last anchor
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IRL would be hard, its an electromagnetically fired spear gun

stable flower
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Is the SOF crew the first modern humans to discover and set foot on a Forerunner installation?

last anchor
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No.
Im pretty sure the Onyx ruins were discovered first.

humble yacht
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When did humanity first learn about the forerunners

last anchor
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That.
That is a GOOD question.

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Probably as soon as they started spreading across the stars, ONI mentions finding several sights of interest across many UNSC colony worlds.
But they could never figure out who built them or where they came from. Not till Chief and Cortana found Halo. THATS when the pieces started to fall into place.

Ex; Sword Base was built quite literally on top of a Forerunner ship...and Castle was built atop the Sarcaphagus Of The Slipcrystal.

humble yacht
last anchor
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Rifht, from the ship under Sword. I’m not sure she had a name for them till she reached the Control Room though

versed helm
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Wait, does this mean the Forerunners inhabited humanoid planets too? Apart from their own worlds?

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When you really consider the Forerunner ship under Sword.

terse lava
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Almost all the planets we have seen in the series has a Forerunner presence on them. The Forerunners did control 3 million fertile worlds, on top of whatever else.

humble yacht
last anchor
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Guess its up for interpritation then.
I know Halsey didnt use the term when she gave Cortanas fragment to Noble but

native gale
last anchor
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I thought so...

humble yacht
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It’s possible that at the time, the singular term signified the entirety of the race

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Like Humanity

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Besides, why would she use that particular term? If that was first contact with forerunner tech, how were they able to translate the language

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The level transcript on halopedia says they said “forerunners” like I did

gilded mason
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Nah, she did indeed just say "The Forerunner built this place." but as ya said, that can be used to denote an entire people without any issue.

humble yacht
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So you’re saying halopedia is wrong?

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@obsidian thistle typo alert

gilded mason
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Fixed it

native gale
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When I played MCC with subtitles on, it said 'the forerunner'

gilded mason
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Yes.
Actually, Halopedia is right, at the time you said that. smirkle

native gale
minor sky
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So playing Halo 5 again I realized something that I want your opinion on-
Osiris and Blue Team should have swapped starting missions.
I think that Chief being on some big battle battle fighting along side UNSC forces would
A: be a fitting intro for Chief and allow us to see Blue Team in action
B: show us the dynamic between Blue Team and the Marines and how much the rest of the UNSC respects and looks up to them (which would play better into Buck's line about how everyone will hate Osiris when they find out they're hunting Chief)

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As for Osiris I think that Locke being a former Oni operative would work better with the setting and the quieter moments would allow for more time to let each of Osiris' members breathe and get better introduced

last anchor
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We waited near 20 years for Blue Team and we got them for THREE MISSIONS. That alone is heresy

stable flower
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That's 343 for ya. All the important stuff happens in the EU.

minor sky
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I think one of the biggest issues with 5's story (outside of being all over the place/having no sense of direction and poorly written characters) is how it forgets to show and not tell

dense valley
abstract wren
abstract wren
minor sky
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I think most people were just unhappy with how they were handled

abstract wren
abstract wren
# minor sky I think most people were just unhappy with how they were handled

most people didn't knew of what they were.
The problem ultimately was that most fans wanted to only play the Chief, while it was time to let him go for a little bit for the game. That should have been what the "trilogy/saga" would have been about, let go of the Master Chief. And for H5 putting the Chief in the second mission forbid this path immediately

minor sky
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The problem was that 343i failed to properly introduce us to and also make us invested in Blue Team

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And Osiris

abstract wren
minor sky
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Blue Team has the benifit of years of lore to back them up, and most fans were open to both Osiris and Blue Team circa 2015, it was just the poor writing/direction/characterization that let them down

abstract wren
minor sky
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Not from what I recall from the lead up to 5's release

native gale
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Here's my analysis of halo 5. It was a super missed opportunity. I thought the hunt the truth thing was really cool, and 343 should have used that. Instead of Osiris being a fairly definitive bad guy, having both blue team and Osiris be antiheroes in their own right. Chief and the team goes awol, searching for Cortana; while Locke and Osiris go hunt him. In stead of "chief is misunderstood", I think it would be better to just leave it to player interpretation and not have a clear answer. One of the reasons I think chief/noble 6 were both popular characters is because the player could project themselves into chief (or 6) and it makes the experience more personal for some reason.

abstract wren
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That's what I recall, people complaining about 343 ruining the franchise by having another DA, too much transmedia and another team/main character

native gale
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I think the split narrative could have been really powerful, it just want done right

abstract wren
native gale
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It would have been better if they kept cortana gone and had vague echoes of her that made it more of a mystery

abstract wren
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In the end : all of theses events have 0 consequences...
All major events from 2014 from any support are just destroyed by Infinite and his nostalgia.
It's a true tabula rasa. We'll see what 343 have to propose, but for now it's mediocre. Too much nostalgia, not much sense of progress

abstract wren
native gale
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I think part of the big issue is there just isn't anymore that we can write about chief. He's simply been exhausted as a character.

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It's time for something new

abstract wren
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there was something to do, 343 started to do it in 4 and 5 and just destroyed it in Infinite...
Again, let's wait and see what come next, now that they reset everything again

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Chief is clearly not going to disapear now... points to trufans

native gale
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I think infinite was a good place for a reset. The need to go from that

abstract wren
native gale
abstract wren
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The road was "simple" a campaign of raids against Cortana to free the galaxy, with at the same time Banished triing to do the same thing

native gale
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Not a great fps though

abstract wren
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It would have been great for... a live service game ? Because it could have been multiple planets/regions by year

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And FPS can have great narrative too... but you must do it, not half do it

native gale
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Yeah. With the current state of affairs I don't think 343 would have been in a good place to make a truly awesome fps from that. Between COVID and controversy it wouldn't quite work

abstract wren
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pessimistic

native gale
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Yeah maybe. I genuinely think if a new branch of game and genre would have been awesome, using aforementioned power and political intrigue struggle with an rts or grand strategy game would have rocked

last anchor
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Also, yeah, COVID kinda kicked them in the face, you gotta remember where they live.
Jay Inslee dropped a rocket propelled sledgehammer on Washington State. I think we had some of the strictest COVID lockdown stuff in the country.

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Makes sense it wouldnt be the best time to make a video game.

minor sky
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Osiris should have been
A- a full on spin off that properly uses the Team based mechanics as more than an after thought
B-A SA2 styled split campaign with a Blue Team campaign and an Osiris campaign with a final campaign

abstract wren
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Couldn't have been possible, they stayed in pre-prod for too long and even when prod begun things where not handle properly and decisions were made really late. But that's not really the topic of this channel

last anchor
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I am still mad about Hunt the Truth 2. I dont know what happened there

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Season 1 was amazing, we shoulda had more like that. Whos idea was it to sweep Petra under the rug?

obsidian thistle
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Season 1 was loosely connected to Halo 5. It had a few bullet points to hit but as it was written weekly, it was allowed to do its own thing.

Season 2 was very connected to Halo 5. Written ahead of time to ep 1 releasing, it managed to actually be more relevant to the game itself.

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So it really depends how you view it really

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I admire the efforts both Audio Dramas took.

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@last anchor just so ya know how both Audio Dramas were handled.

last anchor
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Fair. I still liked 1 a bit more

stable flower
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I wonder what Anders' status is

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By Infinite's time that is

humble yacht
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Eating berries on Installation 09

minor sky
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I really wish that thet kept HW2's plot in its own little bubble and actually finished it instead of little to no conclusion and shoehorned stuff in Infinite

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also I kinda wish that Infinite leaned more towards HW2's Human and Banished art style for Infinite
(Forerunner stuff in Infinite is peak though)

stable flower
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I would've loved another campaign DLC that took place after ATN, but they decided to put that in a book (no surprise there)

exotic panther
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Hey guys. Would it be okay to get rubicon protocol as someone who has never read the books but has played the games multiple times over since I was a kid?

spiral jewel
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With the Banashed attack on the Infinity, it got me thinking.... Where are Tom-B292 and Lucy-B091?! I want to know if they are safe

stable flower
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I wonder how good SPARTAN-IIIs are against the Banished.

scarlet hinge
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so it's definitely one of the better entry points, though there might end up being a few bits of expanded universe references that confuse you

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overall though it's a fully self-contained story so definitely a decent jumping-off point

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if you're interested in Halo novels in general, I'd say the Fall of Reach and Contact Harvest are the other two strongest candidates for ones to pick up as an entry into the series

limber barn
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or the rest of blue team

obsidian thistle
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Read Halo: Legacy of Onyx :)

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That has yer answers

native gale
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A side game (or tv show for that matter) that I think would be really cool (and actually have ties to the halo universe) would be a game/series that visualizes the Kilo-5 trilogy. That is my favorite halo book series to date (still waiting on my copy of Rubicon protocol) and it would be super cool. There's the right amount of mystery (Mendez and Halsey exploring requiem with some Spartans), good amount of action (Kilo-5 on Sanghelios) and a small but good amount of political intrigue (UEG trying to make peace with Sangheli). I think it would go much smoother because they wouldn't have to develop plot around non-existent lore

last anchor
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I hope we get another Onyx sequel at some point

versed helm
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alright

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so

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the scp foundation

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in a world govnerd by a foundation

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there were these things

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these anomlies

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used to scare ourselves at night'

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well

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we were devoked this very day

gusty star
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Oh my god

native gale
last anchor
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ONI would wipe the floor with them. The Forerunners produced things that would make any anomaly run and hide

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Time, space, doesn’t matter

stable flower
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Forerunner tech: so advanced, it should be considered supernatural.

untold wasp
last anchor
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Precursors say hi lmao

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Plus everything from the websites unreliable narrator stuff sooooo

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And it’s a fan fed creepy pasta wiki more or less so

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You can say bye to lore integrity

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Wouldn’t say no to an SCP style ONI file on all the wierd stuff they’ve found

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Like the Janus Key or the stuff from Gamma Halo or the Composer erc

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The Durance from Requiem

minor sky
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I think of all the things I'd wanna see come from the Halo series into offical canon it'd be Silver Team existing, be it as characters or just a cameo. Mainly because
A: I like Vannak and Kai
B: their armors look dope

last anchor
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Nothings conflicting from what I can remember, wouldn’t be too hard to do

native gale
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I feel like silver team is better as a spin off universe. I guess they are cool but still, it would be replacing blue team which I like more as characters

minor sky
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They wouldn't need to replace Blue Team at all

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They'd just be another team of Spartan IIs

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They'd stay strictly EU stuff probably

last anchor
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Add them to the list of S-II teams that do that already.
See; Grey, Green, Black.

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The only S-II teams we see in game are Red, Blue and Omega.

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And even then it took them almost a 15 years to see Blue in-game.

visual orbit
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We see blue in halo 2s terminals, like once or twice

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But you did say gameplay

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So yeah it was 15 years for them to make a debut

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Also I just realized this going through CE on legendary campaign, Linda was on the PoA, as seen in the maw cryo room

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I need an explanation

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My mind doesn't have all halo lore yet

gilded mason
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Linda was clinically dead, "killed" as she was getting to the Autumn, so they put her in cryo in hopes that a doctor could save her once they got somewhere with the necessary medical supplies.

visual orbit
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And she lived!

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Thankfully

last anchor
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Yes. The details of her presence were added as an easter egg in CEA
Technically her pod had been ejected by that point as Chief found it floating in space after escaping.

quartz blade
#

I’m curious can AI control vehicles independently? Or even armor? Cuz in halo wars 2 Isabel has an ability called ghost in the machine where she controls vehicles temporarily

last anchor
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Depends on the AI but for the most part, as long as the vehicle is properly interlinked, yes.
Most drones the UNSC uses (like the Wombats we see in ODST) are either independantly run or linked to a central nonvolitional combat AI, or even a smart one should they be avalible.

Cortana remote pilots a specialized Longsword in Fall of Reach.
Mack controlled thousands of harvesters on Harvest.

Isabels capability is very much a thing

quartz blade
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I don’t why forgot to mention I had a dream in a halo where a boss fight that has a created AI controlling a mantis

stable flower
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Why exactly does Infinity not have automated turret guns on the inside?

unique rune
#

I mean I feel like it’d be weird if it did

humble yacht
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Shooting guns inside of a vacuum sealed ship in space would be a terrible idea

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Think of what happens if you shoot a gun inside an airplane and then multiply that by a thousand

last anchor
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Infantry-sized ones might not have been a terrible idea

dense valley
#

So Locke is dead right?

unique rune
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Unknown

dense valley
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But it was implied he died

humble yacht
#

Not directly

last anchor
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We saw a Hunter class helmet. Thats it.

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Last indication that Locke was anywhere nearby was in the audio logs, when Lasky threatens to take Chief off the Weapon mission after Halsey finds out he sent Blue Team off-ship before they're invaded.

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He mentions Locke being involved in Operation BREAKER TRIP

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Probably a good thing for the Banished, if Blue was on board Infinity Atriox would have been in for an absolute MASSIVE world of hurt

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Im entirely convinced Kelly in GEN3 is fast enough to pull off the legendary 7 Page Muda

versed helm
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I thought they put Locke's helmet on the brutes armor to impose he died as a joke cause everyone hated him in the game lol or at least a majority

obsidian thistle
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It was to add character to Hyperius who was a Spartan killer.

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https://www.halopedia.org/Hyperius

Halopedia
Hyperius

Hyperius was a Jiralhanae Spartan Killer in the service of the Banished and a brother to the fellow warrior Tovarus. During the Installation 07 conflict in 2560, he and his brother were killed by Spartan-II John-117.

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Dont just put a Spartan fingers necklace round his neck for no reason.

narrow lake
obsidian thistle
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^

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A lesson of fiction is

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Did we see a body

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If not, then they aint dead. (Or are impossible to prove they are)

narrow lake
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It's my headcanon that he's either dead, or (more interestingly) surviving against the elements and looking a little worse for ware somewhere on Zeta Halo

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But I still really want to see him back in some small capacity

dense valley
unique rune
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yeah because canon material and developer intentions say he is

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nothing of the sort has indicated Locke’s current condition

visual orbit
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Reach has been recolonized before the time skip in the end of halo reach

deft coral
#

I gotta admit, Halo novels should do what The Cole Protocol did on audible. they added ambient noises and music in the audiobook

abstract wren
finite pagoda
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Halo lore universe

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I am God. Except not really. Too much work

last anchor
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I mean its only, what, 30 novels? Couple comic series? three audio dramas?

humble yacht
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And a partridge in a pear tree