hcs-chat

[abstract herald]

all pro orgs count

[noble field]

Highly disagree. At this point I could pick up a Top16 team with a few thousand dollars and call them CNForeman All Stars. I’m not a professional org but I could. That’s essentially what UYU did. Same with Team War (two events), Bittersweet (two events), Awobabobs, or some of these other orgs in NA that never made it out of Open.

[quiet prairie]

What are the HCS points for those pre-qualifier ?

[abstract herald]

Bring a few thousands of dollars and I have a roster for you

All orgs investing in Halo helps the scene. So yes they count

But if you’re willing to invest $4500/monthly I have a roster for you

[noble field]

We (my brother and I) actually did make an org and hosted two weekly events but it didn’t get traction. First week got the second and third best MX teams as well as other MX teams to sign up. Second week wasn’t as good of talent. Then it stopped. But we paid out a few hundred on both weeklies. Have talked about sponsoring a team for a single event or the Fort Worth/Worlds end. Unlikely though.

[abstract herald]

how much prize pool?

[noble field]

Man I’m forgetting but it was like $300USD or something.

[abstract herald]

not bad, but it's nothing like $4500/monthly and that's the strict minimum for a Top13/16 roster

[noble field]

Leuor, Noble, Strikkey team won the first week. Gained a lot of respect for the MX talent from doing it.

[abstract herald]

the salaries for the worst rosters of CDL (COD League) for example are $10000/monthly by player

so $40000/monthly

[noble field]

We know. But it would be a lot more exposure. But don’t think we want to commit to that financially. I do know someone that might though. That’s my next idea.

[abstract herald]

Now let me remind you something those orgs you say they don't count have thousands of followers and used to invest massively in Halo

so stop not considering them, and we should thx them for what they have done for the scene

HCS made those organisations leave, and there's good reasons explaining this phenomen

it's something happening only on Halo, not on other games, and I think we both know why

[noble field]

Speaking of Twitter: Ascending Baseline was just in pools. 243 followers. Team War 11k, UYU 24k, can’t even find one for Louisville Red Wolves, Six Karma 14k, Bittersweet 5k, Vexed 23k. None of these are big orgs.

[abstract herald]

Vexed, TeamWar and 6K invested massively on Halo (won't reveal numbers).

• if you follow H5 scene, you should know Vexed and how much they invested

Btw I think you know nothing about the scene and how much they put money in

it's thousands they put each month in the game

I think you don't realize

[noble field]

That’s cool man.

[abstract herald]

no that's not. Orgs leaving a game isn't good for the scene

how could it be cool?

honnestly I don't get your point

[noble field]

I replied to a comment that had nothing to do with orgs leaving. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[abstract herald]

it has to do with orgs investment on the game

[noble field]

It was about me.

[noble field]

This is when Sam or a mod comes in and says to stop making personal attacks and you act confused.

[abstract herald]

but you said you couldn't put that numbers ?
"But don’t think we want to commit to that financially. "

it was about the orgs, not you

[abstract herald]

??

@somber swift is there something I missed on the conv ?
Because I don't get what he's telling me

[somber swift]

It's actually connected with the main qualifier as one tournament.

[quiet prairie]

and we know the points ?

[somber swift]

I'm not getting involved

[somber swift]

I think it's the same as a 4K, which should be in the handbook

[supple kettle]

For server moderation concerns, please message @proud summit.

[abstract herald]

But apparently we can't. And apparently it's a good thing for the game to have organisations leaving.

Alright I got the point.

[abstract herald]

I didn't ping you bot thx

[supple kettle]

Me neither but here we are.

[abstract herald]

You are a banished AI. I am a human.
We're not in the same side.

[supple kettle]

And I thought humans weren't that intelligent 👀

[abstract herald]

Since I know a mod is behind the bot.

It's hard to ask me to post sources, if we can't post screenshots :/

You want sources, give me the perms of posting screenshot and I will leak private conversations prooving what I say (private conversations with those concerned organisations...)

[abstract herald]

I'm a PharmD/PhD student, of course I am intelligent.

[somber swift]

I was wrong it's not 4k

[somber swift]

Some humans have actually joined the Banished.

[supple kettle]

You're not getting direct embed perms, but you can always use imgur links or other types of links

[somber swift]

You can post them to an image hosting website, and post the link here.

[abstract herald]

I'm not leaking screenshots on imgur or any other hosting website.
But i can post screenshot here, and then deleting after the mods see it

[somber swift]

Maybe just don't bother with it then.

[abstract herald]

there's some private information like :

• players salaries
• social media expenses about the roster
• reasons they left
• incomes
  etc...

[somber swift]

Hey HCS fans,
EU pre-qualifier is live right now!
https://www.twitch.tv/outqasted

It's losers quartefinals

[abstract herald]

(not answering to you directly)
Then they should stop calling my information as false, if they don't let me to post sources here

[candid badger]

What org pays the least @abstract herald?

[abstract herald]

ANZ ones : they don't pay their players

[candid badger]

Oof

What about NA and EU?

And MX?

[abstract herald]

but they give them some cash based on their qualifications or results

[somber swift]

I'm just saying, don't bother posting information that you aren't able to share the images about.
Just keep it to yourself 🙂

[candid badger]

Is that why barcode left?

[abstract herald]

it was Method2Madness in year1.
Then it was Aw0babobs in year2.

[somber swift]

He left probably mostly to be able to find a team at a higher level to be able to win

[candid badger]

^fr, especially if you aren't supposed to share info. It could make someone look bad.

[abstract herald]

only LG (Luminosity Gaming) pay their roster actually If i'm not wrong

[candid badger]

Big oof

[abstract herald]

that's why I don't share them

[abstract herald]

6K used to, but they left

[somber swift]

But also just don't bother even mentioning those topics if you can't share them.

[abstract herald]

I don't mention them directly. I first mentionned orgs leaving Halo.
Then CNForeman responded by saying those orgs "don't count"

But I have information which proves they count

[somber swift]

Ok no worries

[abstract herald]

i never brought the topic

[somber swift]

Gotcha 👍

I hope you are enjoying Outcasted's stream so far.
Vuelta is doing great!

Made it to finals

[abstract herald]

thx, and yeah Outqasted is doing good job

[somber swift]

I'm really glad he stepped up to show this

Europa Halo volunteers seemed stretched thin

[abstract herald]

they are busy and all have life and there's not many halo casters/observers/producers in Europe.
It's difficult for them to cast everything.

[somber swift]

Yes, stretched thin

[abstract herald]

But you'll be sad by the end of the year @somber swift. I won't leak nothing, but you'll see.

That's why I said EU/MX/ANZ will be dead in 2024

[somber swift]

It's a blessing in disguise that ANZ and MX don't have enough teams this week for a tournament.
Maybe someone will be available to broadcast their tournament next week.

[abstract herald]

• btw EH is cooking something really great for EU, can't leak too, but you'll see in 2 weeks

[somber swift]

EH?

Oh Europa halo

[abstract herald]

yeah

[noble field]

@somber swift But his burning desire to be correct and accepted is worth posting screenshots that could burn bridges.

[abstract herald]

lol

@candid badger let's laugh with me

[candid badger]

?

[abstract herald]

https://twitter.com/TeamVUELTA/status/1680605712588603393

[abstract herald]

look at his message

[candid badger]

I don't think vaktor is trying to be correct. He knows something we don't. And he has a passion for halo. So, I think he is trying to bring awareness to the issue and save halo. However, its hard to save something without context and it's hard to explain info when maybe someone signed a NDA.

[abstract herald]

1st Place for VUELTA.
Built different 😎

[somber swift]

Top 2

[abstract herald]

top1. We don't play Grand Finals

we have 7th seed for next week, and looser bracket is playing for 8th seed

[noble field]

For NA looks like Str8Sick/Gunplexion team and Cratos team are the best two playing.

[quiet prairie]

Like who ? Because HCS doesn't do it anymore and all grassroots are down over there

[quiet prairie]

3 letters and place beginning with P ?

[abstract herald]

tell me in dm

[candid badger]

Oooh str8 sick

@noble field if you ever pay for coaching I'd recommend him.

[noble field]

My playing for real days are far behind me. I just play once or twice a week for fun with my brother.

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1680618177125031936

[candid badger]

For anyone wondering str8 sick is streaming

[somber swift]

Ok

[somber swift]

Mac in ANZ might

[candid badger]

So the teams that won today. They go to the qualifier next weekend?

[noble field]

Correct. They join the 12 teams already waiting based on points.

[candid badger]

How many teams play total and how many will move forward next weekend?

[somber swift]

Top 4 from today move to next weekend

2 in the upper bracket already qualified

Paisans
Plsdontgorogue

Lower bracket is working through right now

https://www.twitch.tv/lvthalo
https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/785e88f0-45a7-42cb-ab70-28ea2c2cc078/NA HCS SSG Pre-Qualifier 07-16/standings/column

[somber swift]

71 teams in NA this weekend, only 4 move to next week to join the other 12
(And that does not even include the top 8 from Arlington)

[candid badger]

So next weekend top 2 go to pools?

[somber swift]

Yes, after next weekend, top 2 go to pools, and then 2 more after with highest points also go

These are the 12 other teams next weekend

Next weekend also,
Winner of MX tourney and ANZ tourney both go

And I think top 2 Eu?

Actually, it's winner of the EU tournament, and then after that it's highest in points.

Quadrant already qualified

[tall mural]

native white rebellion g1 and carpe noctem seems pretty straightforward but idk

might see some upsets

[somber swift]

Top 3 on the list seem like a lock

Who is old SQ?

Carpe?

[noble field]

Yes.

Isn’t Order 66 Monsters team?

[somber swift]

My money is on the top 4 listed there then.
However it'll depend how it breaks down in the bracket

I thought monstcr's team deregistered

[noble field]

100% and if two of those teams win the qualifier, the other two will get in on points. So any other team needs to win the qualifier in order to advance. Those four, in particular the top3, are pretty safe. SR and N8V are guaranteed.

[noble field]

He was on some version of this team before with Envore, Toni, and Squalleye.

[somber swift]

This was monstcr's team.
Monstcr, breakingshot, Juziro, squallaye

[noble field]

Oh yes. That.

[somber swift]

They deregistered

Not sure if the other 3 made it on a team or not

Looks like breakingshot and squallayeade it onto 2 separate teams, Juziro didn't and monstcr didn't

[tall mural]

Yeah

[tall mural]

rip Juziro man

[somber swift]

🙁

Roster juggling pre registration is always crazy

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/NickLavid/status/1680698512567152641?t=GrLEUd8T93gmcoOu3yI_jg&s=19

Thug Nasty (@NickLavid)

Updated Pools after Winners:

Twitter · Jul 16, 2023, 9:58 PM

For next weekend

Yes, next weekend will have pool play followed by a 12 team bracket (4th in each pool eliminated)

[tall mural]

Cintanegra being there still creeps me out

[somber swift]

Here you go
https://twitter.com/NoobComboCom/status/1680745072260775936?t=YTxAJXSWCyLOz_tgrzAfXw&s=19

NoobCombo.com (@NoobComboCom)

Teams competing in the ANZ & MX @HCS SSG Qualifiers:

🇦🇺

• @95XEsports
• @DivineMindau
• @Mindfreak
• Kremers
• SHAFT
• idk

🇲🇽

• @Luminosity
• @CintaNegraGC Affliction
• No ORG
• SNOM
• @impacteTeam
• MyLittlePonys
• @GallowsTeam

Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 1:03 AM

[tall mural]

so there’s another cintanegra

but it’s affliction

🫠🫠🫠

[somber swift]

My buddy SimplyFearMe just qualified for next weekend!!!

[torpid beacon]

Nice

[somber swift]

I'm curious about the ANZ tournament for this coming weekend.
With only 6 teams, I wonder if they still do pools?

It's meant to be 8 teams, pools, 4th place gets eliminated - but I wonder if they'll still do pools with only 3 teams in each pool?

My guess is they probably will, to at least figure out the seeding for the bracket

[somber swift]

And MX having 7 teams is awkward, 1 team will have 4 in a pool and the other 3.

[merry mortar]

No? Anyone who plays in onyx experience cheaters daily? It's very common for the average matchmaking player?

It's called experience 💀

The real competitive community consists of onyx players. I honestly don't know how many ppl cheat to be sure, but I've been in the Saunas discord for a while and cheaters get exposed on a daily basis

That be walls, aimbot, etc.

It's more common than not

[somber swift]

But of course you can just walk in and define that monstcr is cheating, because you have experience and just know.

[still socket]

Unless you have actual evidence that he was cheating then show us if not then just stop

[merry mortar]

Have you seen the APG video?

His online tournament footage as well?

🤦‍♂️

I've done research before making a claim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0TUTbviFLA

There's more too

[somber swift]

Have you heard APG talk about it AFTER the fact, and how he felt he was in the wrong for the whole video?

I've done my own research

[merry mortar]

He felt wrong for the way he approached it

But to the naked eye, it's pretty obvious

not to mention his history with cheating

But i'm not someone to be pressed over someone's video game career, and ik you aren't as well so 😂

[torpid beacon]

What’s a good offset?

[somber swift]

The one that feels right to you

[gloomy bridge]

maybe he crumbles in lan settings

[quiet prairie]

Its not the same indeed, we can see some beiing incredible like GentleMates sunday on Valorant and other clumble like Navi (in HCS)

[noble field]

The Monster thing is like an ex felon being near the scene of a similar crime. I believe he still is innocent until proven guilty like others have said here, but it does look terribly suspicious. But so many just assume because of history and lan vs online results.

[somber swift]

he does

[still socket]

Whatever feel good for you

[candid badger]

If it's so obvious, how was he cheating?

Or what cheats was he using?

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1681076570772115456/photo/3

[merry mortar]

If you watch the video it appears to be soft aimbot or walls. People have used other videos in the past to "claim" he was cheating but those were innaccurate and rather stupid examples. APG provides good evidence and so does his other tournament gameplay online

[candid badger]

When I watched apgs stream on it there was only one time where it was sus. Walls are hard to know if people are using, because usually it's easy to hide.

However, ingame it's easy to tell. Aimbot is easy af to notice. I don't think monstcr had aimbot it would have been way too noticeable. Plus he was sending in videos to 343 to prove he wasn't cheating.

[somber swift]

Let's see if anything materializes:
https://twitter.com/LouisVTitan/status/1681408598444785682

LouisVTitan (@LouisVTitan)

Any boot camps in or before HCS SLC?

Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 9:00 PM

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1681418515130253316

Tashi (@Tashi343i)

Infinite and MCC small side tournaments with small prizing at Ft Worth: What would you want to play in? 🤔

Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 9:39 PM

[candid badger]

Idk about bootcamping, I believe there's only a couple LAN centers in slc. So it's doable, but hard.

[noble field]

Any word on pools/bracket for this weekend yet?

[somber swift]

Yes, I'll post in a sec

Posting this for us all to remember, including our fallen brother, that esports in general is not in a great position these days, not just HCS

https://twitter.com/Shahmadrid0912/status/1681665092688007174?t=tncsoodnG9DQAGMjVieVNQ&s=19

Shah (@Shahmadrid0912)

We went from OpTic and Hecz hosting a London Major to Activision Blizzard possibly shutting down their esport division which also involves Call of Duty in matter of 3 hours 💀

Likes

405

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 1:59 PM

And this:
https://twitter.com/esports/status/1681648061368397824

Esports (@esports)

BREAKING: Activision Blizzard will offer $6 million to every team who does not sign a new agreement at the end of this OWL Season. 🚨

The ABK Report said revenue from the OWL represented less than 1%.

Full article link in replies👇

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831

Retweets

195

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 12:51 PM

CDL and OWL are both in trouble.
esports money is drying up.

If we want HCS to continue, we need to support it in the most practical way possible

[quiet prairie]

CSGO and Valorant are going well and growing

[somber swift]

What about LOL?

[quiet prairie]

Yeah that too

[somber swift]

This however, might be more an indication of the business model - they were franchised, and localized, which was probabloy something too early to do for esports.

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/NickLavid/status/1680758241477681152

embed fail

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1681819718876033024

Halo Esports (@HCS)

The NA 🇺🇸 #HCSSLC23 Qualifier kicks off this weekend.

Catch the action with the @LVTHalo Watch Party as teams fight for their trips to Salt Lake City!

📅 July 22-23
🕛 9a PT / 12p ET
📺 https://t.co/awh5ZH4PaZ

Likes

265

Twitter · Jul 20, 2023, 12:14 AM

[quiet prairie]

what do you mean by "localized" ?

[somber swift]

teams that are 'tied' to a city

[craggy jolt]

CSGO, LoL and Valorant are really really big in general that can maintain their leagues and tournaments, and can still balance their stuff really quickly
Overwatch league while it did grow naturally, it didn't helped that the meta was basically the same for a year (like goat meta) and then with the troubles of OW2

But that's also an indication that esports in general is getting a bad place right now

[somber swift]

I imagine DOTA is doing OK too

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2021

$40 MILLION PRIZE POOL

Because of crowdfunding

[torpid beacon]

Dota 🤮

[somber swift]

I've never paid attention to it, but holy cow, that's a huge prize pool

[quiet prairie]

HCS was right about crowdfunding but i thing it lack real transparency on how much money went where (and most of the money going to 1st-6th globally is not healthy too, but that a hot take ^^)

[somber swift]

BRB, gonna go learn to be a DOTA pro

@torpid beacon I'll see you L8r when I make millions placing like 100th because the prize pool is so big

[tall mural]

ong

[tall mural]

makes for cool fanbases tho

Minnesota rokkr home series and team hosted location majors in cod

[tall mural]

wait thats 2021 tho

[somber swift]

only if executed well, and most of them weren't executed well.

I don't think most people care about their 'local' team, they pick plays or orgs the like and stick with them wherever they are at

[tall mural]

true

[somber swift]

$19 million last year - still stupidly big

[tall mural]

BreakingPoint did that fan poll thing where the results showed that OpTic Texas fanbase is 47% of the total cdl fans

And Vegas legion was like second with 13%

[somber swift]

wow

[tall mural]

Nvm my numbers were wrong; OpTic is 63% of all fanshare

[somber swift]

even more crazy

[tall mural]

I’ll link it

[torpid beacon]

So basically Optic is the reason CDL is doing so good

[somber swift]

clearly, Optic has developed an incredible brand for esports

[tall mural]

https://twitter.com/GGBreakingPoint/status/1656032307155968000

it’s a thread

[tall mural]

hecz knows his stuff

[torpid beacon]

@somber swift Are you my friend or rival

?

[noble field]

What is wrong with the prize pool for DOTA is that it is crowdfunded all got the end of the season. So you can lose badly all year and not make any money but win the finals at the end and make more than everyone else. It’s crazy top heavy because of it. It’s one of the bigger complaints from the DOTA pros from what I hear.

The crowdfunding works though because everything people buy does go to it, or at least a large percentage. I hear people in that community love buying the skins or whatever because it helps the scene and they can see their dollars helping.

[somber swift]

Can we both both?

[somber swift]

I guess they do it that way so they show up on the top lists for prize pools for single events.
Not great for the players though

[tall mural]

skill issue if you choke at the last event 💀

[somber swift]

@noble field did you see this?

[noble field]

I think the difference was something like 1M an event to like 30M for the final event. Talk about the ultimate stress at the end.

[noble field]

Yes thank you! Hopefully we have a format and broadcast schedule like the Majors but I doubt it.

[somber swift]

This is for the Qualifer, not the actual Invitational.

It's not going to be broadcast by HCS afaik.

It'll likely be on LVT.

[noble field]

Correct, but if it is two days and has pool play, they can still do a broadcast schedule. I will say for everything amazing that LVT has done for the community and how much I love them, the Texas Showdown or whatever it was called, was a nightmare. No schedule or flow. Lots of standing and talking. Not much actual games to watch.

[somber swift]

I mean yeah.

It's all being done for free - so we'll see

I didn't pay a lot of attention to the showdown, but I imagine it wasn't mean to be super organized - there wasn't like a prize pool or any sort of incentive to play x number of matches or anything.
It was really just glorified scrims but on LAN.

[noble field]

Correct and I understand. Just saying I don’t ever recall a time where LVT let us down and I felt like they did then.

[somber swift]

Fair.

I'm sure they would actually appreciate any direct feedback you could give them.

[noble field]

I think they know how that event went. Plus this is the extent of my effort. Either way a big supporter of them and a subscriber on their twitch.

[somber swift]

Navi is basically a lock to win this.
Looking at the points, I don't think anyone can catch up to Last Dance, so they'll go to SLC as well
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1682145918152507394

[somber swift]

I expect the ANZ and MX tweet to come tomorrow

will be interesting to see how they do it, consider those pools aren't even full.

[noble field]

Watch them just cancel the ANZ and MC due to low numbers. /sarcasm

[somber swift]

Well, if it keeps up like this, that might be the case for 2024.
We'll have to see

[noble field]

I know but could you imagine they just do it it now. 😂

I was already thinking HCS 2024 was in question as a whole. Now after the whole CDL/OWL lay offs and likely cancelation, I do really worry about 2024 as a whole. Not just ANZ/MX.

[somber swift]

CDL and OWL were bloated because of the franchising.
HCS has cut so many costs specifically to attain sustainability, I think we'll have a 2024 circuit

[noble field]

That’s a fair argument. Makes sense. We will see.

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/Outqasted/status/1682458936673202176

[torpid beacon]

My bestie 🥰

[somber swift]

for embed
https://twitter.com/Outqasted/status/1682458936673202176

Outqasted (@Outqasted)

I'm going to be providing coverage of this weekends EU SLC Qualifier to see which 2 teams can secure their place at LAN👀

📣SLC Qualifier!
📅Sunday 23rd July
🕛12PM BST
🎁Drops Enabled - Ember Hex AR
🔗https://t.co/g7mFYRqmnr

Twitter · Jul 21, 2023, 6:34 PM

[tall mural]

common community member W

[somber swift]

NO POOLS FOR MX OR ANZ
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1682543891227213824?t=a21pST16xOORLNu3y1XNuQ&s=19

Halo Esports (@HCS)

The MX 🇲🇽 #HCSSLC23 Qualifier takes place this Sunday - The winning team will earn a trip to rep Mexico at the Global Invitational in Salt Lake City!

Catch the action with @EZEsportsLATAM

📅 July 23
🕛 12p CT
📺 https://t.co/KBGAu8sKNb

Twitter · Jul 22, 2023, 12:11 AM

[tall mural]

woah

[noble field]

This is how I assumed it would be. Makes sense.

[noble field]

LVT at its finest now going back and forth between two different series. Love it.

[somber swift]

shopify takes first in their pool

[tall mural]

no surprise

[still socket]

I can’t wait to see catalyst makes it return

[somber swift]

what?
https://twitter.com/BarcodeAK/status/1681870466867396608

Aleks Barcode (@BarcodeAK)

Me @iM_Benno @Seduce LF1 for FT Worth/Worlds.

Likes

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Twitter · Jul 20, 2023, 3:35 AM

[quiet prairie]

probably by the open bracket

[tall mural]

Are “Clay CCM” and cClaim the same person?

Ik it’s bubu’s brother

[somber swift]

are those ANZ players?

[somber swift]

NA Bracket:https://hcs.faceitdb.com/brackets/ssg-na-qualifier

[noble field]

Open bracket or if there is an ANZ qualifier. They need to qualify for Worlds though as there is no Open. Will be interesting if they are instantly the best ANZ team.

[somber swift]

there is an 'open championship' for every region before ft worth

[noble field]

Yea they will try to get that, if not Open and hope for a solid run.

[somber swift]

i guess we'll see what they do!

[noble field]

No surprises in NA today.

[somber swift]

ANZ Tournament streams:
https://www.twitch.tv/ninjesticss
https://www.twitch.tv/wryce

[somber swift]

ANZ Pools: https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/2b6f163f-9869-4563-8628-110eef894844/ANZ HCS SSG Qualifier - 07-23/standings/leaderboard
Bracket: https://hcs.faceitdb.com/brackets/ssg-anz-qualifier

[somber swift]

come watch!
https://www.twitch.tv/wryce

i was wrong about anz region, they DO have pools

[quiet prairie]

yes

[modern badge]

souldestroyer94

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/AshamanND/status/1683024002913280000

AshamanND (@AshamanND)

@HCS ANZ @Spacestation SLC Qualifier continues with Winner's Finals between @DivineMindau and @Mindfreak
Catch @Scoobmeistr monitor cam streaming here:
https://t.co/13vWD0WyuR
bracket: https://t.co/3NfD5OxxlL

Twitter · Jul 23, 2023, 7:59 AM

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/AshamanND/status/1683042641179734017

AshamanND (@AshamanND)

@HCS SSG ANZ Qualifier, LB Finals on now:
https://t.co/FYYlJPZxJJ
@wrycee with @95XEsports v @DivineMindau
Winner faces @Mindfreak for a trip to Salt Lake City!

Twitter · Jul 23, 2023, 9:13 AM

[somber swift]

Grand finals will be here momentarily:
https://www.twitch.tv/bluepanda_casts

https://twitter.com/AshamanND/status/1683062555147911168

[tall mural]

odd that they had pools with 6 but mx didn’t with 7 (odd va even number)

[merry mortar]

No

[tall mural]

Odd

Claytron

[somber swift]

What were the standings for the EU qualifier?

[torpid beacon]

Navi won Dominating

[somber swift]

I figured but who else qualified?

[somber swift]

LVT production quality is amazing this weekend.
Their ability to cover multiple matches seamlessly is showing their high level of competence.

[quiet prairie]

points will be announced later, but most likely the 2nd in the tournement

[noble field]

100%

[somber swift]

Who was that?

[quiet prairie]

phlux, Kimbo, Mose, Respectful

[noble field]

That 250-0 Strongholds game was insane. G1 completely rocked N8V White. Kills were 30-7.

https://twitter.com/mikwen/status/1683235944093065216?s=46&t=k0OtERRoEKly6AAEvMUQqg

Then they forfeited to Corpe Noctum.

[arctic quiver]

Ah dang, hope Mik heals up 💚

[somber swift]

Mikwen needs to heal up for sure.
They have to be feeling bad after this

Mexico going into grand finals bracket reset coming up next:
https://www.twitch.tv/ezesportslatam

[somber swift]

MX qualifier, Grand finals Reset game 7 right now!
https://www.twitch.tv/ezesportslatam

Luminosity choked it

[tall mural]

NOOOO

No org won?????

Luminosity is in shambles

[somber swift]

Maybe not shambles.
But ANZ and MX both have 2 teams that can take #1 spot in each region

[tall mural]

They missed Dallas after going into the qualifier as the 1 seed but lost to my little ponys and placed 3rd

They keep shooting them selves in the foot going into invititionals

[somber swift]

Ah

The rosters have changed pretty much every tournament too

[noble field]

Conspiracy theory… N8V White wanted to get 3rd place today as HCS NA Points #1 goes into Pool C. Quadrant/C9 looks a lot easier than Faze/Complexity or SSG/N8V Red.

[torpid beacon]

@tall mural @somber swift Nugget was playing on 300 ping

[tall mural]

saw that

[somber swift]

For Ft. Worth, we're likely to see 5 EU teams, 2 MX and 3 ANZ.

Quadrant (top 6 hopefully), then 2 teams in pools based on points (Navi +1) and 2 more to open.

1 each of MX and ANZ in pools.
1 MX Open and 2 more ANZ open.
Unless MX and ANZ crack top 6 at SLC.

[somber swift]

Possible return of the prodigy?
https://twitter.com/RealLiLPoison/status/1683538062733656064

[noble field]

That last line is hysterical. Quadrant breaks Top6 (twice) as the first non NA team to do that and all of a sudden we interest a disclaimer of “unless MX or ANZ crack top6”

[somber swift]

lol, I know.
I'm just sayin that's how the system works, not that I expect it to occur.

[noble field]

No need to add it. I guarantee it. 😂

[noble field]

How good is Lil Poison? Also have no idea if he ever really competed during H4 or H5.

[somber swift]

Oh I know.
I just don't want the casual person that might stumble across these posts to assume ANZ and MX are not eligible for that.

[somber swift]

He's never got higher than Onyx 2108, and he's currently below 2K onyx.

So nothing special these days, but he caused a storm in H2 when he was a kid.

[noble field]

Oh I know who he is. I was at MLGs he was competing in but it was more “he is so good for his age” as opposed to just he is so good. Don’t think he ever really made it out of Open. At least not in H3/Reach when I was really following.

[somber swift]

yeah, so he could probably do something on an Open bracket team, but not likely to make it out of the Open with a pickup squad.

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1683493566453088263

Might see another situation similar to the Optic/Envy skins if this happens.

Jake Lucky (@JakeSucky)

FaZe Clan is fielding 2 potential acquisition offers from the parent companies of Complexity and Luminosity Gaming

Per @SBJ

Likes

4007

Twitter · Jul 24, 2023, 3:05 PM

[tall mural]

that’s legitimately crazy

like what

[torpid beacon]

@somber swift @tall mural Does that mean we might lose orgs

[somber swift]

@tame sandal - I think you were following their share price sort of?

[somber swift]

I mean, who really knows?

It'll affect every game that has those orgs in them.

[quiet prairie]

they can still keep the brand

[tame sandal]

That'd be @hardy anchor

[hardy anchor]

barely tbh lol

hmm

faze @ 40 cents lol

[somber swift]

True, but it's possible if say Complexity bought Faze, they wouldn't want to have 2 teams competing in the same esport against each other.
But they might.

[noble field]

I have to assume that whoever buys them out will keep both brands going and will just try to shed all the dead weight that Faze has and make it profitable. For what it’s worth, Faze is the most “household” name in eSports. Don’t see why Complexity (or Luminosity) and Faze can’t co exist in the same company.

[tall mural]

Optic boutta become the face of esports

[noble field]

I think you’re right. Probably already is true. However I would definitely still argue if you asked 1,000 random people on the street to name eSport organizations, more people will know Faze. Probably a lot more.

[tall mural]

Yeah

[noble field]

But to people in eSports, Optic is probably the face of the industry.

[somber swift]

But that's not what happened with Envy/Optic

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1683602971639291904

Halo Esports (@HCS)

Pools are locked ahead of the $125,000 #HCSSLC23 Global Invitational!

Congratulations to the teams who stamped their tickets in the Qualifiers - we'll see you in Salt Lake City!

📅 Aug 4-6
🎟️ https://t.co/T0jZxpe23V
📺 https://t.co/e5eElehCyu

Twitter · Jul 24, 2023, 10:20 PM

[tall mural]

Fr

Also I just realized that they stopped selling the hcs regional bundles (EU anz na mx) and even tho we’ve heard the old team bundles are coming back we haven’t heard anything about new regional bundles

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Hainesssss/status/1683596711992893440

Haines (@Hainesssss)

I’ve decided to be a Free Agent moving forward. Hmu

Twitter · Jul 24, 2023, 9:55 PM

[somber swift]

Year 2 HCS didn't have any region bundles at all.

Part of those proceeds were supposed to support tournaments in those areas - and well.... we don't need anyone to remind us what happened to those.

[still socket]

Welp the pools are lock in

[tall mural]

Exactly

It’s like they gave up

Crowdfunding just disappeared

[somber swift]

Well, if the ecosystem collapses, it'll just allow for it to get rebuilt in a different way, hopefully.

No one broadcasts ANZ anymore.
Europa Halo is about to cease operations.
MX has help from EZEsportsLATAM, but it's fleeting.

[noble field]

I admit I know very little about the Optic/Envy merger, but I feel like this is very different. I feel like a smaller company is purchasing to save a larger company that is struggling. The brand for both are worth saving, especially Complexity and Faze if that is the merger. Was Envy that big? I honestly don’t know.

[still socket]

Which team you guys think will win their respective pool

[somber swift]

In fact, the Envy Optic deal was a reverse takeover

iirc, Envy actually bought Optic, but the way things were structed, Optic branding stayed and the whole company just continued as 'optic'

something like that

[tall mural]

Yeah

They started off containing both brands with some exceptions (Dallas Empire -> OpTic Texas and optic gaining the halo team but Dallas fuel remaining the same). Somewhere along the line they retired the envy brand and put all of their resources towards promoting optic

Hecz just did some hecz things

I’m not even sure what hastr0 does for optic

[tall mural]

My pool predictions:
A: FaZe, G1, CoL, MF
B: SSG, Carpe Noctem, Native Red, No Org MX
C: Quadrant, C9, Native White, The Last Dance
D: SEN, OpTic, Rebellion, NaVi

C and D are really really interesting

Carpe Noctem over native red is another one of my bold predictions

[noble field]

I like this. Will be interesting how they do with Supressed.

[tall mural]

I could see a world where The Last Dance beats Native White because that’s another European squad looking to prove itself against a NA team that’s made roster moves, so we have to see what their ceiling is

[noble field]

Now that is bold.

[tall mural]

Carpe Noctem has been together for a really long time I think they’re gonna peak

[noble field]

Yea they are crushing it.

Here is a bold prediction… Sentinels doesn’t get Top2 in their pool.

[tall mural]

Native White could just be playing checked from here on out. Top 4 at the first event but hasn’t gotten close since; Mikwen is injured and their performance in the qualifier wasn’t the greatest either (250-0 against g1). I like boam and Kuhlect together (they were together on oxygen t6 at worlds) but the core of the roster that did well at Charlotte is mostly gone so I’m not sure if they’re going to reach form

[noble field]

I think they checked out last event and I think they threw intentionally on Sunday wanting Pool C.

[tall mural]

Maybe

[noble field]

I still have faith in the roster.

[tall mural]

Who would they lose to? Rebellion and OpTic?

[tall mural]

I want to, but we’ll see

[noble field]

Optic for sure and then other two series are both going to be very close.

[tall mural]

Navi is also gonna be interesting to see

[tall mural]

What makes you say for sure?

OpTic are on a downwards trend and SEN placed top 4 with like 2 weeks of playing together, bubu Sparty fal and lethul are all championship caliber players (they’ve all placed t3 or higher at an infinite major) so I think sen rises up and beats optic

[noble field]

I throughly think Optic will be back to at least Top3 again and I also think Sentinels got really lucky last event. Barely beat Quadrant in pool play after a huge comeback and then a rattled team the rest of the series. Quadrant kept screwing up that series. Then beat the checked out N8V White, solid win against N8V Red, then got lucky C9 made it as far as they did and beat them, then lost to Quadrant like they should’ve originally.

[tall mural]

I still think SEN has what it takes. Sparty had a monster (pun intended) tournament at Arlington (hitting clips left and right) so I think he’ll turn up again plus the talent of the other 3 players on SEN is undeniable. You can make an argument for OpTic still being able to rebound and hit championship form but I still like SEN’s chances of being on the rise

[noble field]

I don’t trust it. All four guys struggled mightily on their teams all year. Getting Top8 and I believe even Top12. This is while being with Kuhlect and Suspector too. I still have my doubts although I don’t think very highly of Spartan as a player.

[tall mural]

We’ll see how it plays out

[somber swift]

use this, made by the SSG discord admin

If you want to use this, you can put your name on it and send it to me in DM and I can post it for you here

[noble field]

How many Discords you in?

[somber swift]

More than I should be for my mental health, lol

[noble field]

https://twitter.com/bubudubu/status/1683396934612971520?s=46&t=k0OtERRoEKly6AAEvMUQqg

Solid list.

[tall mural]

We have 7 mutual servers 😭

[tall mural]

Very solid

I agree with almost everything

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1683602971639291904

[somber swift]

@quiet prairie 🙂

[quiet prairie]

didn't saw it, it was midnight

[somber swift]

My wild predictions

[quiet prairie]

Globally I agree (even if i think of the worse for Quadrant and Navi, as always)

[somber swift]

What do you mean by "Globally" you agree?

Does anyone have a link to the rules that explain the tiebrakers for pools?
I can't find it in the handbook anywhere.

[quiet prairie]

Most of this prediction, I agree. I did not go into details and I don't know enough on the US scene too

[somber swift]

gotcha

[quiet prairie]

https://wpassets.halowaypoint.com/wp-content/2023/06/Event-Rules-OpTic-Major-Edit.docx.pdf
for the last major

[somber swift]

How did you find this / where is is officially linked?

[quiet prairie]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/opticmajor2023

"OpTic Major Event Rules: Click Here"

[somber swift]

ty

[quiet prairie]

it is not up always linked for all evetns however... for unknown reasons

[somber swift]

what does this actually translate to?

[quiet prairie]

Tied team 1 = T1
Tied team 2 = T2
Only matches played against each other.
T1 number of matches of win / T1 number of matches played

https://liquipedia.net/commons/Template:GroupTableLeague
On all the possible tie bracker

with Matches = series

On Halo, in Liquipedia: its (if I'm not mistaken) : |tiebreaker1=matchScore|tiebreaker2=ml.matchWinRate|tiebreaker3=ml.gameWinRate|tiebreaker4=gameWinRate*

[somber swift]

only matches played against each other?
I don't think that's the first level of tiebreaker

I feel like it means you take the overall map win % of team A and the overall map win % of team B and compare those two values?
in my pool D, for instance, Optic would be 8/13 and Sentinels would be 8/15 so Optic would be 1st.
And Navi would be 6/14 and Shopify would be 6/14 as well - so they would remain tied and need to go to the next stage of tiebrakers

[quiet prairie]

its against tied teams, so yes

[quiet prairie]

And you're right, it could be the other way around, but it was changed last year

[somber swift]

7.1.3.4.2 - talks about Match Winning Percentage

[quiet prairie]

"vs Tied teams"

[somber swift]

so in my Pool D, Optic and Sentinels are both 2-1 in pools

[quiet prairie]

7.1.3.4.4 is the overall percentage

[somber swift]

I feel like we would need to look at more than ONLY the series between Optic and Sentinels to break the tie

[quiet prairie]

Yes, but its not what the rules are

[somber swift]

If we ONLY look at the series between tied teams to evaluate, there's no need for further tiebreaker rules.

Every Series has a winner, so looking further wouldn't be needed.

in my prediction, it says Sentinels beat Optic 3-2

Would that be the tiebreaker?

Do you know what I mean, @quiet prairie ?

[quiet prairie]

I'm processing 😉

that's why when its automatic its easier

[somber swift]

automatic?

[quiet prairie]

in the table of liquipedia yes

[somber swift]

i don't understand the coding for that

[quiet prairie]

me neither ^^
I let pro do that. i only put what correspond to the rules (when i have them online)

So yes, in your case its only the 1st tie bracker that do the charm

probably why HCS chose this

[somber swift]

if we think about it critically, there would never be a scenario where additional tiebreakers are required - if that's how we interpret 7.1.3.4.2

[quiet prairie]

-> if 3 teams are tied, it would happen

or if there was more then 4 team in the pool

[somber swift]

ooooooooooooooh

[quiet prairie]

And again, it was changed from last year. Because there was more tiebreaker before (there was first match score, match winning pourcentage overall, [not in this order and by memory] game winning pourcentage overall, then again match vs tied team) Only then a slayer would happened. I think for one event it was not a game but a seeding by HCS points

[quiet prairie]

exemple : https://liquipedia.net/halo/Halo_Championship_Series/2023/Kickoff_Major/Pool_Play
Navy, rebellion and proton

[somber swift]

ah yeah!

[quiet prairie]

its what made me look into the rule for the breaker, and see it was changed

[noble field]

If it is a two way tie, it’s super wordy but it is just “who won between those two teams” really. Says two or more teams to cover both but a two way tie is just who beat who.

Those fun rules come into play when it is a three way tie.

It’s just saying you don’t count the games against the fourth team not involved in the tie initially. If you can’t determine a seeding, then you count them.

[quiet prairie]

It can be summarized like this yes 🙂
Of course, its rules so it needs to be extra precise

[somber swift]

gotcha.

They key for me was when Lemath said that rule matters more when there are 3+ teams tied

[noble field]

Yea. Heads up tie is just fancy wording for who won that match between you two.

[somber swift]

when in reality -> .2 is only the tie breaker when there are 2 teams tied.
If there are 3 or more teams tied, .2 will never break the tie

Unrelated to what I posted above:

so in my prediction, Pool D would be:

1. Sentinels
2. Optic
3. Navi
4. SR

Based on tiebreaker rules

I think Navi might crack top 8 this time

My rankings, (which will depend on how the actual bracket works out for who plays who, when)

1. Faze
2. SSG
3. Quadrant
4. Optic
   5/6) Sentinels / G1
   7/8) Navi / N8V Red
   9-12) N8v White / C9 / Carpe Noctum / Complexity
   13-16) Mindfreak / No Org / The Last Dance / Shopify Rebellion

[somber swift]

I think a lot of these teams are capable of placing higher than I wrote, but someone has to lose each series.
It's tough to predict.

[noble field]

How? It’s only a two way tie in your prediction.

[somber swift]

edited for clarity

oh wait

I think I messed it up!

[noble field]

Still confused. If it is Sentinels 2-1 and Optic 2-1, with SR 1-2 and Navi 1-2, then Sentinels is 1st based on your predictions.

[somber swift]

yes, I messed up

[noble field]

And .2 can definitely break up a three way tie.

[somber swift]

I'm not sure how

[noble field]

It’s easy if the three series are all different as in a 3-0, a 3-1, and a 3-2.

[somber swift]

no, that's where .3 comes in

[noble field]

If they are all game fives and 3-2, then it can’t.

[noble field]

Incorrect. Lol

[somber swift]

.2 deals with Matches, not Games

Matches = Series

[noble field]

I didn’t notice the Match vs Game. That’s silly. Yea it shouldn’t even read two or more. Should just say if two teams are tied.

[somber swift]

🤷‍♂️
It's definitely confusing, but it does work once it's understood

[somber swift]

contract signed
https://twitter.com/Complexity/status/1683915664740737027

Complexity ✭ (@Complexity)

We're excited to announce @Karmea_ to our Halo roster for the upcoming @HCS Salt Lake City event.

Welcome aboard! #WeAreCOL

Twitter · Jul 25, 2023, 7:02 PM

[velvet bough]

When do tickets open up for HCS Fort Worth?

[plain cave]

Keep checking social media and halo waypoint for the announcement

[velvet bough]

10-4

[tall mural]

c9 so low?

Navi so high?

[somber swift]

I don't know how the bracket gets formed based on pool play results.
So that info might change my predictions drastically.

I know 1/2 go to WR 1, 3 goes to LR 1, and 4 is eliminated.
I just don't know which teams face who in that bracket.

[tall mural]

Yeah

[somber swift]

perhaps someone knows how bracket seeding works after pool play.
I sure don't

@quiet prairie ?

[floral anvil]

I think the most interesting thing to watch for is whether or not Quadrant can hit top 6 or top 4 again

[somber swift]

I think they can, and will

[floral anvil]

you'd think that considering how good top 3 is but they may not have the ice like the top NA teams do

[somber swift]

You don't think they showed Ice last tournament?

[floral anvil]

They did

[candid badger]

The real question is, will optic show up? Will it be ssg vs faze again? Will bound finally get a win? Can quad make top 3 again? Can sentinels prove they are the real deal? Lastly, will the new g1 roster get top 6?

[floral anvil]

I'm just saying, consistency across multiple events is a whole different ballgame IMO

[somber swift]

lol, which question?

[candid badger]

The one that matters lol

[somber swift]

they all do

I don't see SSG winning though, typically the 'host' team falls short in these.

[floral anvil]

correlation doesn't equal causation

imagine if quadrant wins tho

[candid badger]

I'm predicting top four, in random order, ssg,faze,sentinels, quad
With 5/6 bring n8v red and optic 7/8 being g1 and sr/navi

[somber swift]

😐
https://twitter.com/esports/status/1683932088008077315?t=44moaOR6F8XsUSb3S-BOuQ&s=19

Esports (@esports)

BREAKING: 65 employees have been laid off at Esports Engine 🚨

This comes after the company was acquired by ESL FaceIt in March 2023.

Likes

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Twitter · Jul 25, 2023, 8:07 PM

[somber swift]

Terrible for those people, and also doesn't help HCS either

[noble field]

You don’t think Optic bounces back and makes Top4?

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/1683944016059199492
There's something afoot

Adam Apicella (@MrAdamAp)

Just hearing the terrible news. I can’t say much and need to be careful here but if anyone needs ANYTHING

Last name
First name
Gmail

I’m always here. You are all the best at what you do. Hang in there and chins up. We will ride again one day.

Twitter · Jul 25, 2023, 8:55 PM

https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/1636758364112957440
https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/1647943174889799682
https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/1647973264851959811
https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/1678914295185154061
https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/1683944016059199492

Something is definitely cooking ever since Faceit bought EE and Adam left.

Adam Apicella (@MrAdamAp)

A personal update

#EEforever

GGs, thank you for the support

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Retweets

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Twitter · Mar 17, 2023, 3:56 PM

Adam Apicella (@MrAdamAp)

Had another eureka epiphany. Feeling like 2002 or 2019 all over again.

No greater addiction than working feverishly on a GREAT idea when you realize you have something.

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Twitter · Apr 17, 2023, 12:40 PM

Adam Apicella (@MrAdamAp)

Looking for someone with amazing Powerpoint or Figma (ideally both) design skills to work on a presentation (s) for a long tail, confidential, incubating project.

Paid opportunity (can negotiate details).

Email me with CV and cover letter: [e-mail]

Do NOT DM me.

Twitter · Apr 17, 2023, 2:40 PM

Adam Apicella (@MrAdamAp)

Tick tock

2.0 is being dreamt up now.

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Twitter · Jul 11, 2023, 11:48 PM

Adam Apicella (@MrAdamAp)

Just hearing the terrible news. I can’t say much and need to be careful here but if anyone needs ANYTHING

Last name
First name
Gmail

I’m always here. You are all the best at what you do. Hang in there and chins up. We will ride again one day.

Twitter · Jul 25, 2023, 8:55 PM

[floral anvil]

this guy seems a little unhinged

[somber swift]

I think if you understood the context you likely wouldn't feel the same way

[quiet prairie]

Already open https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/fortworth2023

[quiet prairie]

1st A against 2nd B, 2nd A against 1st B
same for C and D

[somber swift]

Cool, I'm gonna run a mock bracket then

[somber swift]

how does it line up in the lower bracket?

Loser of the 'first a vs 2nd B' plays who in the lower bracket?

Lower bracket starts with 3rd of A, B C and D

[quiet prairie]

LR 1 :
C
A
B
D

[somber swift]

is that pools 3rd C, A, B, D?

[quiet prairie]

like this https://liquipedia.net/halo/Halo_Championship_Series/2023/Arlington_Major

of course

[somber swift]

ty

Based on that, and on my Pools prediction, it's not possible to obtain the Bracket results that I originally had.

Based on my original Pools prediction, here's a wild bracket prediction.

[floral anvil]

navi isn't beating n8 white

[noble field]

Solid although I still think you have Navi and Sentinels too high and N8V White too low.

[floral anvil]

only reason nv8 white didn't win the qualifyers outright is because they ffte'd the last series

mikwen has some elbow issues or somethin

I could see navi making it out of pools but no shot they make it into round 2 of losers

[noble field]

@somber swift I would bet money that Navi is actually Top16 in the end. Not a lot but that’s my prediction.

[floral anvil]

but who knows, maybe that quadrant placing has all the EU fellas in some good headspaces

honestly tho, I see quadrant either getting top 2 or just going back to 9-12

no in between

[somber swift]

if pools play out the way I wrote, would you have N8V White beating Sentinels in WR1?

[noble field]

I can see that. Momentum team.

[noble field]

I think so. I liked them better with Barcode instead of Boam, but I still like them a lot. Still not sold on Sentinels.

[somber swift]

well, we may never know if they don't meet.
I hope they do!

[noble field]

True! Me too. Been rooting for N8V White and Shopify all year. Like those teams and fans of Mikwen and Ryanoob. I think both are in a good spot.

[somber swift]

Honestly, many of the teams are capable of achieving higher than I put - but someone has to lose each series, it's hard to predict!

[tall mural]

This sentinels slander shall not be tolerated 🔥 😧

[noble field]

Lol funny thing is I’m also a fan of Spartan as a player. The drama that ensues is fun too. I want him to get 1st because he deserves it or I want him to get Top16 to see the drama. No fun in between.

[noble field]

They are fixing the plasma grenades stuck in the lift on Solitude…. by removing plasmas from the map entirely. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[torpid beacon]

@somber swift @tall mural @noble field 1) Faze 2) SSG 3) Quadrant 4) Optic 5 - 6) Sentinels, Native Red 7 - 8) Cloud 9, G1 9 - 12) Cape, Shopify Rebellion, Complexity, Last 13 - 16) Nativ White, No Org, Navi, Mindfreak

[somber swift]

Doing native white dirty there

Otherwise, some pretty reasonable, and safe pics

[noble field]

I was about to say the same thing.

[torpid beacon]

Why Native White just lost Mikwen

[noble field]

They didn’t lose Mikwen.

[somber swift]

Did they tweet something new?

[torpid beacon]

He has problems with his arms and is getting medical treatment currently

[noble field]

He will 100% be competing.

[torpid beacon]

Ok but he'll be at a big disadvantage

[merry mortar]

😂😂

[noble field]

It’s like 10 year old logic to fixing problems.

[noble field]

Maybe. He played the qualifier with it no problem and then they pulled out at the end and used it as the excuse, but I believe they wanted the 3rd place from the qualifier to get Pool C. Also two more weeks of physical therapy and rest and he should be good to go.

I definitely could be wrong on this though.

[merry mortar]

Just change out the lifts

Also hate where you can’t clamber from lifting onto the ledge instead of flying up the full length of the lift

[somber swift]

It's the best they can do on short notice before a tournament I guess

[noble field]

There is a repulse right next to the lift that works to remove it. Also don’t go into the lift if a plasma is floating in it. 😂

And what are the odds that 343 does a quick fix of the map with replacing plasmas with frags and doesn’t break something else completely unrelated?

[somber swift]

Well, they messed up the snipers on catalyst so....

[noble field]

That’s what I’m saying. Lol

My brother and I joke all the time about random stuff breaking Halo. “Stubbed my toe, now Camo is broken on Recharge.”

[somber swift]

Wes is hilarious

"until then avoid lifting up into the plasma grenade in game 5."

[noble field]

😂

I loved that Clutch logic.

[tall mural]

They did? I haven’t gotten a game on it yet

[noble field]

They removed the map already until it is fixed. But basically people were getting the old map and had either Sword or Grav Ham.

[tall mural]

🤦🤦

[tall mural]

what happened to strongside and simms as casters? Watching old halo 5 stuff

also realizing that an mx team placed top 8 at an event once and an anz team placed higher than an na team (mindfreak top 16 at orlando 2018)

[somber swift]

DIdn't Strongside take like a journey around earth or something?
I think he stepped away from everything.

As for Simms, I think he just diversified into other titles and didn't really come back to Halo much.

There's a lot of great talent still in the Halo scene and only so much budget.

[tall mural]

True. New names like sherzy gaskin Tony and etc

[noble field]

Boooo to Sherzy.

[tall mural]

What 😭

[noble field]

Can’t stand him. Everyone more or less used by HCS is good except Sherzy. Constant metaphors and one liners that don’t contribute and aren’t funny. Not a fan.

[torpid beacon]

@somber swift Strongside has retired from gaming entirely

[somber swift]

Isn't that what I sorta said?

[torpid beacon]

Yes but in a jumbled and complicated way

[somber swift]

Ok, you don't need to ping me though

[noble field]

They guy is in 67 Discords, only ping him when needed.

[floral anvil]

asking not to be pinged on discord 💀

just turn off @ mentions if you really care that much

[somber swift]

Dude, there is a specific role in this server that people can choose that indicates 'yes ping' or 'pls don't ping'

[floral anvil]

🤷‍♂️

just saying if it really matters that much to you then you'd just disable the notification

[torpid beacon]

I'm only in 13 discords

[noble field]

I was just kidding. I don’t know how many he is in. I just know it’s a lot.

[noble field]

I’m with you. It’s like giving someone your number but asking them not to text you. But I get not wanting to be bothered when that is supposed to be an option.

[floral anvil]

ye I get the logic

[noble field]

Because of his do not ping, I limit to pinging him to just ten time a day. 😂

[floral anvil]

LMAO

[merry mortar]

10 times 😂

[somber swift]

It matters enough to me that I mention it from time to time if someone pings me when they don't really need to ping me. It's not like I was getting bent out of shape about it 🙂

[arctic quiver]

No, please respect the wishes of people with the No Ping role. That's why we have it

[floral anvil]

I wasn't pinging him lol

mods in this server seem pretty antsy

[somber swift]

I think it's a good idea to understand the customs of any environment you choose to be in

[somber swift]

I full mute many of them, check in on them when I feel the need.
I'm only really active in around 8-10

[floral anvil]

🤓

[noble field]

That’s fair. I was just making a joke. I do feel it’s a good idea to not be in too many. Was stretching my attention too much before. Lol

[somber swift]

You're good, I just figured I'd share

[fringe depot]

F/a looking for a team dm me

[arctic quiver]

#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Unyshek/status/1684310274327605249

RE: Server issues

John Junyszek (@Unyshek)

@Mikwen The team is looking into these reports across the board - wanted to let you (and everyone) know we've kicked off an investigation 👍

Twitter · Jul 26, 2023, 9:10 PM

[merry mortar]

About time

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1684343030374076416

Halo Esports (@HCS)

Our talent is set! 🎙️

Catch them live next weekend as they bring you all the #HCSSLC23 Global Invitational action!

📅 Aug 4-6
📺 https://t.co/e5eElehCyu

Twitter · Jul 26, 2023, 11:20 PM

Walshy is back on

This was Arlington for comparison

Charlotte

Dallas

Basically, HCS has a formula, and they can only have 9 people paid for.

most of them are probably contracted for the whole Year 2 season.

probably, Walshy had a conflict or something with Arlington, so Goldenboy filled in.

[tall mural]

Why not both 😭 they’re such a good duo 🥺

[somber swift]

It'sa great when they are together.
I'm just guessing they haven't been this year due to:
-Personal schedule conflicts
-Overall budget limits

[tall mural]

Kansas City had 12, and was the exact same but plus Goofy, Puckett, and Shyway

Not gonna discuss what happened to Shyway but Goofy and Puckett would be nice to have around

[somber swift]

That was in Year 1 right?

Bigger budget

SHOTS FIRED:
https://twitter.com/AnxietayFPS/status/1684360454817333248

[tall mural]

Yeah Kansas City

[somber swift]

bigger budget than year 2

[noble field]

Lol who is this? Never heard of him.

[somber swift]

A coach for an AM team

[noble field]

🤦🏻‍♂️ some random. If he is going for impressions he will get more than a normal tweet though. 😂

[somber swift]

This is 100% impression farming

Toolez made a list for pro Gamertags (not based on skill, just the tag) and it set people off.
That's where this guy got his idea about doing something similar for AMs

[tall mural]

still exists here

[somber swift]

naiv is still in Halo...

[tall mural]

meant to do eUnited 😭

I’m tired man

[noble field]

Why not? 🤷🏻‍♂️

for life!!!

[gloomy bridge]

love their hcs coatings

[quiet prairie]

he was sick

[noble field]

Walshy’s always been sick man.

[somber swift]

This is pretty good, actually:
https://twitter.com/Spartan/status/1684634271368007680

Tyler Ganza | SEN (@Spartan)

She’s rallying the Atriox army

Change the format @HCS

Twitter · Jul 27, 2023, 6:38 PM

[quiet prairie]

Time to play to HW2, if i understood well 😂

[merry mortar]

😂

[somber swift]

Predictions?

For me:

1. Quadrant
2. Navi
3. The Last Dance
4. Vuelta
   5-6) BH3-Esport / Trashcan Ltd
   7-8) Frostbite / NLF_Hatiskoll

[tall mural]

forgot this even existed

😭

[somber swift]

It starts 'tonight' for us (tomorrow for EU)

There's a bit of $ up for grabs in this, which is nice for the players

https://twitter.com/100Thieves/status/1684647926092443649
Imagine 100T Halo in HCS

100 Thieves (@100Thieves)

grinding halo rn just in case the aliens are actually real

Likes

622

Twitter · Jul 27, 2023, 7:32 PM

[tall mural]

that would be nice but also who would they pick up

Imagine if Halo kept all of its year one partners and added, KCP, Acend, CoL and Quadrant

[somber swift]

There's not enough pros left for them to pick up a contender.
It would probably mean another org leaving for them to com ein.

[tall mural]

Maybe if they picked up an am squad like Carpe Noctem

But that wouldn’t be super hyped

Maybe Mexico

[somber swift]

I doubt this

[tall mural]

Valid

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1685006353948106753

Halo Esports (@HCS)

The $125,000 #HCSSLC23 Global Invitational (hosted by @Spacestation) kicks off next Friday!

Pool Play Schedule 👀

📅 Aug 4-6
🕛 12p MT / 2p ET
📺 https://t.co/e5eElehCyu

Twitter · Jul 28, 2023, 7:16 PM

[noble field]

Interesting choice to kick off A Stream with Quadrant vs C9 and at the same time Sentinels vs Shopify on C Stream.

[somber swift]

Interesting choice to NOT start the tournament with an SSG game, really

However, they close the day on a good one on A stream

[velvet bough]

Is this a major?

[quiet prairie]

no, its an invitational LAN. Less cashprize, less team, no open bracket

[somber swift]

They shouldn't even call it an invitational, IMO.

That implies they didn't 'earn' their spot, but perhaps could have been invited on other merits than performance.

[noble field]

Eh “Invitational” is used a lot whether people are invited or not. It more or less implies that it is the top teams. That’s all. But I can see the confusion.

[quiet prairie]

Name could be "Championship" like last year no ?

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Spartan/status/1685040289574985729

Tyler Ganza | SEN (@Spartan)

EVERY SINGLE TEAM ATTENDING THE EVENT ALL WANTS THE CHANGE

ALL SIXTEEN TEAMS

ALL OF THEM

I HAVE RALLIED THE TROOPS

CHANGE THE FORMAT @HCS

https://t.co/91cUCjJrp4

Twitter · Jul 28, 2023, 9:31 PM

[somber swift]

I think Foreman is right, in that invitational implies top teams, I'm not sure if there is a better term.

@quiet prairie do you edit liquidpedia sometimes?

Native White is listed twice, should be native red in one pool

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1685098058194067456

Halo Esports (@HCS)

This September, the final HCS Major of the year takes us back to Texas! 🤠

How to qualify for #HCSFTW23

More Info:
🏆 https://t.co/XJizEmS8VE

Twitter · Jul 29, 2023, 1:20 AM

[quiet prairie]

it was changed at midnight reload your cache

[somber swift]

Ty

[somber swift]

So uh, Navi got disqualified from their own tournament

Details still coming in, but I think they let someone else play on Snipedrone's account.
What idiots

[quiet prairie]

...

[somber swift]

Not a good look to do that

Jimbo trying to claim it's a ping issue

Makes NO sense

Because they beat BH3 (it was on broadcast!), but now the bracket shows BH3 beating Navi

The only explanation is that they were disqualified, not forfeit, because if they forfeit, it wouldn't have changed the bracket result

[tall mural]

what

[tall mural]

Are they saying wonderdrone because they think wonderboy was playing on snipedrones acct?

(Wonderboy Navi’s coach)

[quiet prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[tall mural]

oh

[somber swift]

Yeah, that's the speculation

[quiet prairie]

very very strang. But Navi is the main sponsor. So they decide the narrative...

[somber swift]

Yeah, it's damage control time

Jimbo is claiming they specifically asked Europa to reverse their win against BH3

[arctic quiver]

He said "too", I think meaning he also asked about the decision to reverse (like info about it) . Unless it was a typo and they did ask specifically to reverse

[somber swift]

I think it's a typo

I can see a world where Navi "had a heart" and decides to simply FF and give BH3 a shot at the winners finals.
But it is a very awkward thing

Feels more likely they got DQ, but oh well

[noble field]

Drama for no reason. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[tame sandal]

Where is this?

[somber swift]

Europa Halo Twitch stream

Wonderboy not accepting the insinuation he would play that poorly, haha

[noble field]

That’s hysterical. 😂

[quiet prairie]

LAN in Blackpool announces !

in november

It is open to international team too !

200 000 pounds !!!! thats huge

Hoping to see some CoD and other FPS game come to have a huge attendance. And globally to have more influencers and organization be there or talk about it

[somber swift]

Umm 200,000 or 2,000?

[quiet prairie]

I heard 200k

[cold galleon]

yo guys

i am master dub

[somber swift]

I swear he said 2 thousand

[quiet prairie]

more realistic yes... Didn't heard that but you must be right

[cold galleon]

halo infinite

[astral linden]

https://twitter.com/NoobComboCom/status/1685331154033885185?t=BtF7UqlonXGVmyBPeekCog&s=19

NoobCombo.com (@NoobComboCom)

Europa Halo has announced Europa Halo Blackpool, a 4v4 LAN taking place from November 11th - November 12th taking place in the United Kingdom.

Twitter · Jul 29, 2023, 4:47 PM

[cold galleon]

can someone make me popular

[somber swift]

You sound like you are 12

[noble field]

That’s a compliment if he is younger than 12. 😂

[vale heath]

Or if your like 90

At some point sounding young is good

[tall mural]

💀💀💀

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/Spacestation/status/1685729927965151232
that's really good !

[somber swift]

Embed
https://twitter.com/Spacestation/status/1685729927965151232?t=rk-Dt22-5BJBXETMp_rDJA&s=19

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

The HCS SLC Global Invitational is officially…

                    ‼️SOLD OUT‼️
   can’t wait to see y’all this weekend

Twitter · Jul 30, 2023, 7:11 PM

[noble field]

https://twitter.com/ssg_pookie/status/1685641689116073984?s=46&t=k0OtERRoEKly6AAEvMUQqg

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/EuropaHalo/status/1685989306991542272
I hope the 'more news' is an increased prize pool.

Europa Halo putting on a LAN is really cool, and I know these events cost a LOT to run.
However, they were saying they left it open to Worldwide teams to attend and were hoping NA teams might decide to come across.

$2k in total prize pool isn't even enough to get NA teams to show up Online - no one if flying anywhere for this kinda $.

So I hope the announcement is they've secured additional prize funding.

Europa Halo 🇪🇺 (@EuropaHalo)

More news to come tomorrow!

#EHBlackpool23

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jul 31, 2023, 12:22 PM

[quiet prairie]

No its going to be tickets sales

And its not in $ but in pounds

And I understand prizepool does matter but... isn"t the pleasure to do a LAN important ? Its the occasion to compete against team you won't normally (especially for Tier 2 US team)

[somber swift]

2,000 pounds isn't going to get anyone flying across the ocean.

I'm sure it will still attract a ton of EU players though!
Hopefully they manage to crowdfund or increase the prize pool in some other way 🙂

But even if they don't, this'll be a great LAN for Europe.

[quiet prairie]

Again, if you're only interested in the money. Yes.

And we'll see if people shows up. Hope so. Don't know however.

[somber swift]

It's not about being 'interested in the money' so much as it's at least 'covering your costs'.

For EU players, they probably won't care about the money. This is because they haven't really had an opportunity to play on LAN all year so far. So they'll probably show up no matter what.

NA players have had the opportunity to play in LAN environment all year long, so they probably don't have that feeling of missing it a lot.
So their motivation to spend thousands of dollars on flights and accommodation is a lot less than the motivation that EU players might have.
This would be somewhat mitigated for NA players if there was an opportunity to recoup some of their costs through prize winnings.
That said, if an ORG felt they had the funds to pay for their players' travel expenses, because the ORG thinks it might be good exposure/advertising for their brand to have the players play, then maybe more NA teams might come even with little to no prize pool.

That's just my thought.

[quiet prairie]

No prize pool in NA is covering cost due to US taxes... (if you're not 1st to 4th) But yes you're right NA team doesnt care enough to play in EU

[noble field]

Honest question because I don’t know… how many EU teams pay for their own flight, hotel, and team pass for Open Bracket at a Major in the US?

[candid badger]

Bruh what?

[noble field]

The problem with the exposure is that if the top NA teams aren’t coming, it will be even less exposure. I can’t imagine the top NA teams coming over for anything less than 25k USD prize pool. Even then it feels low for them to go over.

[hidden oasis]

Anyone have any extra tickets for SSG in SLC? Looking to buy 2

[somber swift]

Zero.

Basically if they don't qualify for travel coverage from 343, they don't come to NA.

Maybe, 1-2 teams with orgs that don't qualify, the orgs pay for travel.

[somber swift]

I don't think that's how the taxes work

[noble field]

That’s my point. I assumed it was zero. This is for prize pools of 250k. I can’t imagine anyone coming from NA for a tiny prize pool.

[somber swift]

Preaching to the choir

[quiet prairie]

Rejected in Kansas City last year.

[quiet prairie]

50% goes in US taxes when you're from EU. + taxes in EU. There is maybe 25 % of the amount in the end for org + players

And I'm not sure i did talk about players having to pay all for themselves too. Having your org paying some stuff (like just the travel expenses) is the way to go. And i thing you guy do have more buying power (notably due to exchange rate, 0.7 in sterling)

[noble field]

One team once a year ago. That would be the maximum amount of NA teams to expect for the LAN in EU unless the prize pool gets a lot bigger. Just saying.

[quiet prairie]

1 is still something to wish for. Its still that to be taken

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/EuropaHalo/status/1686317504476393474

[quiet prairie]

all teams ticket have been sold

[noble field]

That’s awesome!

[quiet prairie]

https://navi.gg/en/publications/halo-navi-changes-august-23
Snakey is out and Glory is in for Navi

[tall mural]

it’s official

just as vaktor said it would 🥲

[somber swift]

This was already at the last qualifier, yeah?

[somber swift]

Embed
Just 20 teams though.
I wonder who they all are?
https://twitter.com/Outqasted/status/1686334633191825409?t=L5-sa567pkO0p4Lpqs0Vcg&s=19

卂乃 ∣ Outqasted (@Outqasted)

The @EuropaHalo LAN just sold out all 20 of its available 4v4 passes in an hour.

Please can you help support EU Grassroots Halo so we can make this event the biggest and greatest LAN in EU Halo history.

@Tashi343i @RichieHeinz @HCS

Love the EU Halo Community. ❤️

Twitter · Aug 1, 2023, 11:14 AM

https://twitter.com/Spartan/status/1685917644002562048?t=qxyiDVVVk5DdbqRwj1-0jQ&s=19

Tyler Ganza | SEN (@Spartan)

Onyx 3,000

Likes

469

Twitter · Jul 31, 2023, 7:37 AM

[tall mural]

his grind different

[quiet prairie]

its 18. Its a normal LAN in Europe.

[somber swift]

18?

[quiet prairie]

yes, the real number of pass sold is 18.

[somber swift]

Then why did they write 20?

[quiet prairie]

Might be 2 teams invited but I have no info on this

[quiet prairie]

because its a player and not an organizer

#1135551230656122941 message

[somber swift]

Outqasted is more than just a player, dunno why he would have the wrong info

[quiet prairie]

its only a player, a caster sometime. He is not an organizer in EuropaHalo

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/BitterSweetGG/status/1686426927765082132?s=20

BitterSweet (@BitterSweetGG)

Prepare to drop!

We are excited to announce our new Halo roster competing this week in Salt Lake City at the @HCS Invitational hosted by @Spacestation "Carpe Noctum".

@PiggyHCS
@KingJayJS
@CherishedFPS
@DDiagram_
@NickLavid

#CupCakeSquad

Twitter · Aug 1, 2023, 5:21 PM

[tall mural]

YOOO

bittersweet is a rare w org entering halo

[somber swift]

They were already in Halo in ANZ, but that team split up

[tall mural]

Ik I’m just saying the fact that they’re willing to sponsor teams from both regions and remain in the scene like that is nice (they weren’t at Charlotte I don’t think)

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1686466936538910720?t=crSnPLmAXo7caqFQ6HIaIQ&s=19

Cloud9 (@Cloud9)

Top 6 in the Arlington Major was just the beginning - they're back for more.

Introducing Cloud9 Halo headed into the @HCS Global Invitational! #HCSSLC23

☁ @Nemassist
☁ @TritoN_JB
☁ @RammyyHimself
☁ @Sceptify
🧠 @Senscrs

Likes

106

Twitter · Aug 1, 2023, 8:00 PM

[hidden oasis]

Looking for 2 tickets to SSG SLC event.

[torpid beacon]

Word

[arctic quiver]

We don't allow buying or selling here

[candid badger]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/spacestation2023

[noble field]

Tickets are sold out.

[candid badger]

I mostly posted this for the underground

It has info besides tickets, and underground is free iirc

[noble field]

Ah

[somber swift]

You could try contacting them to ask if they plan to have a few tickets available at the door.

[hidden oasis]

Didn’t know. Thanks! Just trying every avenue I could think of.

[hidden oasis]

That’s a great idea! I will try that thank you!

[somber swift]

A few teams are already shooting their shot at the last Faceit online tournament:

But only 16 teams will actually end up competing in this for NA.
16 outside of those that pre-qualify for Ft. Worth based on SLC placings and points

Ft. worth will have 12 teams pre-qualify for Pools, with the final 4 coming out of the Open bracket AT Ft. Worth

The Open championship noted above is to earn travel coverage to compete in this in-person Open at Ft. Worth

Assuming Quadrant make it to top 6 again, that means 2 more teams from EU get into Pools on points.
And a further 2 steams will earn travel coverage to the open bracket - so 5 teams from EU likely to get into Ft. Worth.

I'm assuming:
Quadrant
Navi
The Last Dance (if they stay together)

Then into Open bracket could be any 2 of:
Catsmile (if they're still a team)
Vuelta
BH3
Sunday Gang

There's definitely some opportunity for teams at the EU Open Championship - will be VERY interesting to see what happens.

[neon raft]

Halo Infinite multiplayer is very much unplayable until someone at 343 improves the TTK

It's absurd you use a whole magazine just to break someone's armor and get killed with 4-5 shots

Very much frustrating

[somber swift]

Ok, are you talking about Competitive Pro Halo, or just in general?

[neon raft]

Just in general. It doesn't make sense that you waste a whole magazine to break an armor only to get killed with couple volleys back. I wonder if players purchase overpowered ammo.

[somber swift]

Ok, you probably want #1039633978841374720 then

[somber swift]

Teams that apparently bought a pass to the Europa Lan
https://twitter.com/reed_halo/status/1686846100454481920

Reed (@reed_halo)

@Esports_News_UK @CLQ_blubs @EuropaHalo Community Gathered List

Area 117
CatSmileGaming -
Demonica Esports
ES Synical
Ethereal Esports
Frostbite Esports
Navi
NoName
NoName
Quadrant
Stone Cold Royalty
2talented
Trashcan Esports
UHL Allstars
UHL Blue
UHL Red
UHL Yellow
Villains
Vuelta Esports

Twitter · Aug 2, 2023, 9:07 PM

UHL taking up some spots!

Navi and Quadrant there is nice

and Cat Smile>
no BH3 though

[vapid adder]

Quién para jugar clasi, soy platino 4

[arctic quiver]

#lfg-español

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/eTeamCruelty/status/1687199152893992960
I'm glad they got an org to represent them, but holy cow this is the worst team font/logo I've ever seen.

CRUELTY 🇲🇽 (@eTeamCruelty)

🚀 ¡𝗟𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗢𝗦 𝗣𝗔𝗥𝗔 𝗥𝗘𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗦𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗥 𝗔 𝗠𝗘́𝗫𝗜𝗖𝗢!

Bienvenidos al lado oscuro:
🇲🇽 @NastyBulIet
🇲🇽 @AtzoPM
🇲🇽 @sepstars
🇲🇽 @leuorg
🇲🇽 @Goriloco11 🗣️

Hemos vuelto y con más fuerza para ser el único representante mexicano dentro de la HCS 2023: Global…

Twitter · Aug 3, 2023, 8:29 PM

[tall mural]

cruelty has been in halo before but wow 😬

[somber swift]

yeah, it's nice to see them back, but if I didn't read the twitter handle, I'd have NO idea who they are

another team getting representation for this weekend: https://twitter.com/impacteTeam/status/1687232752884621312?t=Mi-NbTs0PmI6qjQI8M5ShQ&s=19

𝗜𝗠𝗣𝗔𝗖T (@impacteTeam)

Welcome our EU Halo roster that will be representing us this weekend at the @HCS @Spacestation Major Invitational in SALT LAKE CITY!

Welcome Spartans☄️
⚪️ @Mose_Luciano
🔴@Phluxr
⚪️@Kimboelzein
🔴@BrandonStones
🗣️@Simply_Gambit

#FeelTheImpactt💥☄️

Twitter · Aug 3, 2023, 10:43 PM

I hope HCS gets their graphics updated for the stream for tomorrow

Looks like they got Cruelty info:

[tall mural]

Oh that’s big

[somber swift]

and they got Impact info too

[tall mural]

Everyone at SLC is orged except carpe

That’s a W

[somber swift]

Carpe is Bittersweet now

[tall mural]

Oh I forgot

Oh

Wait that’s actually huge

[candid badger]

So happy the times are in mountain for once

[noble field]

I’m probably the only person that is west coast and loves when the tournament is east coast. Love me some 9am games.

[merry mortar]

😂😂

[somber swift]

Not good
https://twitter.com/HazzaProd/status/1687264447432192000?t=XYtyO0HBK_6KaU0rtIlVtw&s=19

✰ApparentlyHazza ✰ツ (@HazzaProd)

I haven't seen a big thread containing all of the information about the @G1Official pay situation (lack of pay), so here goes:

🧵 (1/9)

Twitter · Aug 4, 2023, 12:49 AM

[untold silo]

Anyone know what time doors are tomorrow? I don't see any times listed in my ticket email

[somber swift]

My bet would be about 11 mountain time

[somber swift]

https://www.spacestationgaming.com/hcs-global-invitational
10 am apparently

10 for GA at Underground venue, 11 for GA at Depot venue

[untold silo]

Ah, didn't even think to check the SSG site. Thanks!

[somber swift]

Hey, I thought I'd mention:
The Underground venue is free admission - no ticket required, afaik.

B, C, and D stream games are all taking place in this area - which is FANTASTIC

this is almost unprecendented in that 3/4 of the games LIVE on LAN will be free to watch in person.

super cool

[noble field]

That is pretty awesome.

[tall mural]

SSG W

[noble field]

Man I really hope stream C is casted. Want to watch that first match up but I much prefer it casted.

[somber swift]

LVT is best bet for that

https://twitter.com/EuropaHalo/status/1687413543149228033?t=lzbpeyYOHDZDt8HIXwZuew&s=19

Hopefully this works out!

Europa Halo 🇪🇺 (@EuropaHalo)

So Halo Community (EU and afar) we hear you like Team Passes to EuropaHalo Blackpool

If you are interested in buying a team pass we would NEED to hear from you via our interest registration form!

✍️https://t.co/Vgsas5Cfow
#EHBlackpool23

Twitter · Aug 4, 2023, 10:41 AM

[noble field]

I assumed HCS casting A and LVT B. Hopefully I’m wrong.

[somber swift]

LVT sometimes jumps to other streams though, when it's of importance or they have downtime on B

[noble field]

Agreed. I’ll probably watch LVT to start.

[hidden oasis]

I ended up finding the tickets I need! But thank you! I really appreciate you looking out for a fellow spartan!

[candid badger]

Ashaman is GOATed

[merry mortar]

🙏

[hearty wave]

Rooting for quadrant to place better than in Arlington

[noble field]

Wish list:

• Faze doesn’t win.
• Sentinels 1st or top16 😂
• Great showing by Shopify
• Great showing by N8V White
• Would be cool for Quadrant to get Top3.

[hearty wave]

Quadrant is the backbone of the pro halo scene in Europe

Wish immunity esports was in the event ogre 1 carried immunity far as he could

[candid badger]

Sag baby

[hearty wave]

Would love to see optic do better

[merry mortar]

Hope complexity does well

[noble field]

Neither one of them is on Complexity. Not sure if sarcasm or not. 😂

[noble field]

LVT just went live SUPER early but it says next up is Sentinels vs Shopify. 🎉

[merry mortar]

oh bro ur right 🤣

I was watching LVT Vods from like 3 months ago last night

Forget kulhect is on Native White, literally saw his tweet this morning

[noble field]

Haha yup. Cykul is on Shopify. Rooting for both of them and their teams.

[torpid beacon]

SSG invitational Predictions

1. Faze
2. SSG
3. Quadrant
4. Optic
   5 - 6) Sentinels
   5 - 6) Native Red
   7 - 8) Shopify Rebellion
   7 - 8) Cloud 9
   9 - 12) Bittersweet
   9 - 12) Complexity
   9 - 12) G1
   9 - 12) Impact
   13 - 16) Native White
   13 - 16) Navi
   13 - 16) Cruelty
   13 - 16) Mind Freaks

@merry mortar @hearty wave @candid badger

[torpid beacon]

I don't think Native White is gonna get a good placing. Quadrant got top 3 last event

[noble field]

Disagree on N8V and I know Quadrant did. I want them to do it again. 🙂

[torpid beacon]

Why Mikwen is now a Diamond player with his injury

[merry mortar]

Yeahhhh, I matched against shopify's coach in MCC FFA not too long ago 😭

[noble field]

That’s a big assumption in my opinion.

[cloud coral]

When does the weapon coatings dropping?

[vale heath]

What are the drops this event

[arctic quiver]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1683995800446328832?t=I2JaR1Ix3zNRNAHX4Q16mw&s=19

Halo Esports (@HCS)

These dice are loaded.🎲

Tune into the #HCSSLC23 Global Invitational (Hosted by @Spacestation) and you will unlock the Lucky Marks weapon coatings!

📅 Aug 4-6
📺 https://t.co/e5eElehCyu

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Twitter · Jul 26, 2023, 12:21 AM

[supple kettle]

https://aka.ms/DropsHelp

[urban pumice]

Who’s gonna be replacing Tchik?

[torpid beacon]

Nobody

[tame sandal]

That scenario looks so beautiful

Kinda looks like Splatoon a bit

Gosh what a nice trophy

Awh

N8V White is playing against Impact at D stream now

[somber swift]

Why what happened?

[tame sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078465813062893590/1137086023394918480/trophy.mp4

[arctic quiver]

Lol

[quiet prairie]

yes a listen in for Quadrant ❤️

caster telling they are speaking fast when they are not is funny ^^ (now imagine its the same for non-english speaker)

[still socket]

Lmao

I feel like optic is going to win against Navi

[hearty wave]

That's depressing

[silent venture]

dont forget to tell tony happy birthday in chat

[rich moss]

I love FaZe but when Gilkey and Karmea are rolling, sheeesh they are dangerous

[quiet prairie]

The at-place event seems real good, better then the "Optic" Major at least. And B,C and D stream event got some production too. Thats nice (even for <1000 viewers there)

Mindfreak is doing not that bad against G1 (even if its a 3-0 its not horrible)

[somber swift]

N8V White just lost to quadrant 250-2 in strongholds

didn't native white lose 250-0 in the qualifier against someone?

[quiet prairie]

against G1 the 23 yes

well NW did win the slayer

[somber swift]

true

[quiet prairie]

Optic 3-0 rebellion with a 250-11 strongholds ouch

[somber swift]

Wowza

[still socket]

That no scope from Spartan was sick

So who will win ssg or bitter sweet

[somber swift]

SSG

[still socket]

Yeah SSG is dominate bitter sweet

[somber swift]

wow, Bittersweet the real deal with that game 2

[still socket]

Ik I thought ssg would beat them

I like the QT in HCS

[quiet prairie]

even my brain didn't processed it XD I though SSG won lol

[still socket]

Is it me or ssg is dominating the QT pick up

Jay needs to stay on the map lol

[somber swift]

the first time I think he realized he wasn't going to win the gunfight so he denied SSG the equipment pickup by falling off on purpose

no idea what the second time was about

[still socket]

True

[tame sandal]

A clone? 👀

[still socket]

Lmao

Maybe a twin

This series is going to be good

[torpid beacon]

The chairs they use look really uncomfortable tbh

[somber swift]

lol

[somber swift]

for casting/hosting, yeah

[tall mural]

optic vs sen next boutta be huge

wish hcs showed the broadcast schedule/game results as like a scrolling bar on the bottom of the screen during non-gameplay moments like rlcs does

[somber swift]

right?

[still socket]

That was a quick cap for optic

That was a bad move by sentinels

[somber swift]

Dominance that game

[still socket]

That was a nice try for optic to tie it

That was a stupid move by lethul

[somber swift]

massive W for Sentinels

[tall mural]

YOOO

@noble field where the sentinels slander at now

Sparty got that dog in him 🐕

[grand pagoda]

did not expect SEN to beat Optic

[somber swift]

Lethul doesn't know what happines is anymore

lethul dropping f-bombs on stream, lol

[tame sandal]

[somber swift]

but is the clone wearing shorts or pants?

[grand pagoda]

wearing the same thing 🤣

thats funny

[tame sandal]

No idea, Lottie's chair would have to get out of the way to know

[arctic quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-tom-ellis-lucifer-morningstar-lucifer-fine-then-gif-17390810

[tall mural]

lmao I feel like all the pros swear during interviews at some point or another by now

[somber swift]

lol, might be the case!

My pics for the final matches:
SSG takes first in their Pool
Cruelty gets knocked out
Faze takes first in their Pool, knocking out Mindfreak
G1 takes second in their Pool, forcing Complexity to start in Lower Bracket

[torpid beacon]

Faze is basically guaranteed

[somber swift]

There's no way cruelty beats bittersweet, IMO

[tall mural]

CoL g1 is a sneaky good matchup

[somber swift]

totally

[velvet bough]

Is there any gear for watching this even?

[still socket]

Weapon coatings

AR is on the co streamers the reset are on the halo channel

[velvet bough]

Thanks

[still socket]

Np

[noble field]

Man you were QUICK with this. 😂

It’s Friday. We will see but they look good right now. I’d be happy if Spartan won the whole thing.

[somber swift]

I'm really curious to see how the bracket shapes up

This was my original predictions:

Pool A and C are shaping up to be exactly as I predicted

Pool B will be different by Bittersweet/N8V red

Pool D will be the same standings, but different series totals

not bad

[velvet bough]

Space station making it look easy

[somber swift]

Wow, Navi only took 1 map the whole day?

Last Dance (Impact) did better than navi

[tall mural]

that’s actually crazy

rip navi in the pool of death though

[somber swift]

I thought they would've beat Shopify

[noble field]

Can’t believe C9 and Impact both lost to a team with a Diamond player.

[somber swift]

🤪

[noble field]

They did I believe against G1. I said then and still swear by it, I think they threw. Then after that series that forfeited against Bittersweet, taking 3rd intentionally.

[somber swift]

I think maybe partway through that match they maybe decided to throw, but I doubt at the beginning

I'm trying to guess what the bracket link will be

https://hcs.faceitdb.com/brackets/ssg-na-qualifier

This was the last bracket we had for the previous tournament

I wonder if eports engine is helping with this tournament or not?

I don't think they are

[still socket]

Is this the last series for today?

[somber swift]

Yes

[still socket]

Ok thanks

[somber swift]

https://hcs.faceitdb.com/brackets/hcs-salt-lake-city

[noble field]

Man King Nick must have about a .6 K/D today.

Seen him go less than .5 in multiple games today. His damage has been good but he has been terribly negative.

[hearty wave]

Sucks mindfreak got folded

[somber swift]

0-9 I think in maps?

[hearty wave]

Pain

Not even ogre 1 would coach them for survival

Since ogre 1 has been living in Australia since 2009

[floral anvil]

ogre1 has been working with native white pretty sure

[rigid valley]

Hello everyone I went out on a walk

[noble field]

That magnet that brings Quadrant vs Optic together strikes again.

If Quadrant and SSG wins, they get each other. Have they played each other at all the last two events? I feel like they haven’t.

[somber swift]

loser finals last event
https://liquipedia.net/halo/Halo_Championship_Series/2023/Arlington_Major

[gloomy bridge]

The mental stress I can’t imagine

It’s def on the minds, their losses

[noble field]

My bad. Thank you!

[noble field]

100% and losing today to Sentinels is only compounding that. They aren’t the same team anymore for sure.

[somber swift]

My prediction for Saturday/Sunday

[gloomy bridge]

wut do u think explains the fall best?

The nerfing of power weps ammo?

Their style jus gettn figured out?

[noble field]

It’s tough to say. I think it’s a combination of Optic being very organized and playing as a team better than others initially, but overtime as the game has been out for longer, they have caught up. I do believe teams are realizing playing faster is better than slowing it down, which Optic was so good at. I also agree that the sandbox nerf has hurt Optic as well. But still pretty crazy as they went from basically untouchable to a Top6 team.

[gloomy bridge]

Well said brother

It’s sad to see Ngl

I also think optics slowing down strat

It relied on enemies not finding the last alive

The last 2 alive or wutever

And trippy is famously rattty

And APG was gud at that too

But yr2 teams know where they hide

and get to them fast(movement tech)

[noble field]

In the end though I still feel like they could win an event, but it looks a lot less likely. I do like the extra parity but until we get more teams competing with Faze/SSG it doesn’t matter too much. I think they were 9-2 and 9-1 today. Looking like a rematch again. Sigh.

[severe widget]

if you got an exclusive reward redemption code from HCS, but the code isn't working, is that an issue for support? or should i go to a staff member tomorrow at HCS?