#hcs-chat

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worldly jewel
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Poor poor Oreos Forever
I hope he's alright

astral linden
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oh no

worldly jewel
arctic quiver
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Nhsyr7jb3hei8wurhriqoihsheuu3hrgue

astral linden
unique citrus
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damn everyone be acting up for points that aren't usable in real world economies LMAO

cold kayak
astral linden
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this was one of the most enjoyable weekends ive had in a while, mainly because of halo. dont be a killjoy

arctic quiver
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I think this tournament proves that HCS is not copypasta

still socket
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Savage lol

arctic quiver
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Native White blows that statement out the water

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Open Bracket to top 4

void fable
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Let's go optic🔥🔥🔥

arctic quiver
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From a team pulled from all over

cold kayak
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NOOOOO I'm at 3% for the BR

astral linden
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panda..

arctic quiver
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Co streams should potentially still allow progess

cold kayak
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I kid I kid

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I'm probably echoing thousands of people rn

still socket
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When does the progress stop just wondering because I’m finish lol

cold kayak
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Time to grill up some burgers and heat up some tater tots

astral linden
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its over now :(

arctic quiver
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BR drops are still live on co-streamers

still socket
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Panda those burgers better be medium rare lol

cold kayak
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They will always be medium rare

copper thunder
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Wait, i just realized the next lan tournament is in june

worldly jewel
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Is Merty ok? 👀

astral linden
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he disappeared

cold kayak
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Merty rn

astral linden
still socket
astral linden
arctic quiver
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**For anyone that hasn't completed their BR drop for the Death Hex coating, they are still live for the moment on co-streams **

still socket
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That’s true I mean they got a weekend full of halo

flint cedar
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The skin doesn’t look too different from the default. You aren’t missing much if you can’t get it.

still socket
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I mean I like it

arctic quiver
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WHO SAID THIS WAS BAD, IT'S SO GOOD 🤣

cold kayak
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What did they showcase for S3 on today's stream?

cinder wyvern
cold kayak
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oh neat

cinder wyvern
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Bandit looks like it will be fun but we shall see..

cold kayak
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I like it

cinder wyvern
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It does sound pretty good :0

still socket
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And the new game mode

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Which is pretty fun

still socket
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I ping the wrong person sorry

cold kayak
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lol all good

still snow
still snow
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Oh cool

inland wave
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shooting dead bodies in comp is wild

unique ridge
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cant believe it was 42 to 41

cold kayak
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yeppers!!

grizzled gyro
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Great series (and the first one was great too)

inland wave
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Close game, but even if faze wojn the bracket would reset and they'd need to beat optic in another 7 game series haha

grizzled gyro
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Wanted faze to win game 7 just to reset and get more games

inland wave
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all for more halo, that was some of the best gameplay we've seen in the HCS, but the bad sportmanship reflects so poorly on esports haha

final nest
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It was great halo for sure. What bad sportsmanship?

grizzled gyro
final nest
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Oh yeah, renegade shot formals body I think it was. Didn't seem excessive but idk the culture at that level of play

inland wave
final nest
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Felt like a touchdown dance more than anything too bad. Faze plays the role as the heel so it didn't come out of left field 😂

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The crowd booed when faze walked up, kinda felt bad for faze, but it's all in good spirits. Optic has a positive reputation and a crowd favorite

inland wave
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it looked like the church-going momma boys vs the greasy frat guys with high school gf's tbh

solar falcon
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I attended, had a blast, and got some cool selfies with Team Optic.

inland wave
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nice man wish i was there

solar falcon
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Not to mention @wraith pulsar giving me game deadzones and Aquarius!

solar falcon
prime igloo
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If its a bad outplay shooting a body is fine. Kids get into their feelings too easily

sweet shuttle
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I have all the Death Hex coatings, and I am happy about that

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Btw, who won in the FaZe vs. OpTic finals last night?

arctic quiver
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Optic

sweet shuttle
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Nice, I kinda figured it would be them since they beat FaZe to make them go into elimination, so they could probably beat them again

worldly jewel
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I think FaZe might've won if it was another objective mode, but Optic just dominated on slayer

arctic quiver
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FaZe won on Twitch at least lul

tame sandal
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By a hair, I bet if it was up to the cosmic dice, FaZe would've won smirkle

sweet shuttle
worldly jewel
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Consolation prize lol

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Has anyone seen Merty? He seems to have disappeared

sweet shuttle
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I haven't

tame sandal
sweet shuttle
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Indeed

worldly jewel
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Yeah, we liked him a lot.
But hi new guy. Congrats on getting mod

sweet shuttle
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Yea, congrats

tame sandal
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Thank you kind stranger

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I still can't believe how I got the job: Uny liked my food so much he offered me the position :)

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I will not disappoint

arctic quiver
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Hahaha

somber swift
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HCS Year 2 remaining Roadmap and Schedule: https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2023roadmap
Mar 12: Open Series 2k. Mar 16: NA Open Series 2k Finals
Mar 19: Open Series 2k
Mar 23: NA Open Series 2k Finals
Mar 26: Open Series 4k Qualifier
April 1-2: NA Open Series 4k (Apr 2 rest of world)
April 16: EU Quadrant 4k Qualifier, Open Series 4k Qualifiers (rest of world)
April 22-23: EU Quadrant Open Series 4k, NA Open Series 4k (April 23 rest of world)
April 30: Open Series 2k
May 4: NA Open Series 2k Finals
May 7: NA FaZe Clan 4k Qualifier, Open Series 4k Qualifier (rest of world)
May 12-13: NA FaZe Clan Open Series 4k, Open Series 4k (May 13 rest of world)
May 20-21: HCS Global Invitational Qualifier
June 2-4: HCS Global Invitational @ DreamHack Dallas
June 30 - July 1: HCS Arlington Major hosted by OpTic
July 16: Open Series 2k, July 20: NA Open Series 2k Finals
July 22-23: HCS Global Invitational Qualifier
August 4-6: HCS Global Invitational hosted by Spacestation Gaming
Sept 1-3: HCS Ft Worth Major
October 12-15: Halo World Championship 2023 (Seattle, Washington)

HCS in 2022 was a historic year for Halo esports and it wouldn’t have been possible without all of the amazing support of fans, players, and partners alike – thank you. We know everyone has been eagerly awaiting the release of the 2023 roadmap and today we’re excited to finally pull back the curtain. To […]

noble field
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Wait the Faze and Quadrant are only 4k prize pools?

somber swift
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@quiet prairie which EU teams ended up coming to Charlotte?

Navi, Quadrant, Jlingz

Didn't Wreckers and FLying Dutchman earn travel coverage for the Open? Did they do, but compete under a different name?

quiet prairie
somber swift
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what about ANZ and MX?

somber swift
somber swift
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Did any teams other than Luminosity and Six Karma end up going to Charlotte From Mexico? (on their own cost?)

quiet prairie
noble field
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Awobabos was the top EU team I believe. Did well in open but lost to Rogue in winners and then N8V Red in losers.

torpid beacon
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Faze sucks

quiet prairie
somber swift
quiet prairie
quiet prairie
somber swift
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Cintanegra in M placed 3rd in their events, didn't earn travel coverage, I'm guessing they didn't go?

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Here's my quick maths for the upcoming Online tournaments for seeding, based on points earned in the 2 onlines and Charlotte for NA Teams

noble field
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Get ready for some rostermania for teams 10 and below IMO with the exception of N8V Red.

somber swift
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Here's my quick maths for the EU region for total points based on 3 tournaments so far, pro rating Quadrant points for 3 players at Charlotte:

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ANZ Region

noble field
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TSS did great online but losing 3-0 to Complexity and then 3-0 to Shopify in losers must leave them thinking they need a change. Proton probably hit expectations or even exceeded. They might stay the same. N8V Red no change. C9 announced three people and Rammy is a temporary fill in. I can see them going elsewhere for a 4th. I believe Leftovers, Rogue, and anyone below will have players leaving to try and move up the food chain.

tame sandal
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That roadmap is final right? There's not going to be any HCS MX event?

somber swift
tame sandal
somber swift
noble field
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Haha correct. Can’t adjust future changes we don’t know about. But will be interesting to see as the next online is in 12 days.

somber swift
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MX quick maths

somber swift
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lol, yup!

somber swift
tall mural
noble field
still socket
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Thoughts on the new HCS skins

arctic quiver
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C9's is badass

still socket
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I mean I like the color combination

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I don’t understand why ssg didn’t add some space elements in their armor

noble field
tall mural
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SSG!!

tall mural
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There are only partnered team headshot cutouts from media day in the photo album

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No Shopify, G1, BtH….

somber swift
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That's what media day is though, isn't it?

Only the partnered teams are REQUIRED to be there - it's possible the other teams weren't around, and not available.
Also possible they weren't invited, but that would be strange.
You'd think that anyone in Pools would be invited

noble field
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Rostermania already starting.

noble field
tall mural
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For sR and G1

somber swift
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Probably?

keen nebula
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I spend $50 on the old org skins, and they took all of them from me.

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Anyone else run into this issue? Are they gonna do anything for us plebs who was dumb enough to invest moneys

arctic quiver
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Submit a support ticket, anything you have purchased shouldn't have ben removed

supple kettleBOT
arctic quiver
solar falcon
left slate
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HCS Championship was insane

cold kayak
noble field
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Waiting for tomorrow is boring. Lol

somber swift
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you could always hop on H5 and work on your 152, haha

noble field
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Lol I’m good. Excited for the Smoke Shroud, Recharge being back, rank reset, and CSR based matching. It isn’t a ton and I wish Plaza was ready, but I’ll take those things. Curious about the Bandit as well.

tall mural
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bandit??? 🥷

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Jk lmao

simple talon
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New HCS Giveaway Bundle? :0

worn whale
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Question is HCS finals in Orlando again?

quiet prairie
worn whale
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Ty!

umbral imp
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yall think they'll add descope to the the bandit

gloomy sail
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no, that's the reason it doesnt have a scope

hybrid ruin
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I hope the add descope to the bandit. One of my least favorite parts of H4 was no one ever getting descoped

worldly jewel
gloomy sail
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it only has the minor zoom of other non-scoped weapons anyway

worldly jewel
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Basically squint focus lol

gloomy sail
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so it's not like the bandit is going to be another weapon that excels at sniper range

hybrid ruin
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I just remember H4's DMR being SO powerful because of no descope. Thing was a poor man's sniper

worldly jewel
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That's basically what a DMR is supposed to be. A Designated Marksman Rifle ObiThink

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A sniper without the range for more flexible encounters

gloomy sail
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That's part of why the Bandit isn't actually playing quite the same role as the DMR did

worldly jewel
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And why it's not actually a DMR

somber swift
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@worn whale

distant parcel
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HCS drops are nice, but it boils down to watching the same Top 8's Vs each other in various combinations for a few days straight really....

arctic quiver
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That's not how the last one went

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We had teams run from open bracket all the way up to Top 4 or something

distant parcel
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Comp would be cooler if the Top 8 teams VS each other a lot sooner in the tournament, seeing some of the known sponsored teams have to eliminate each other earlier on would allow for some fresh blood to have a chance.

noble field
distant parcel
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Because they are spread out in the lower brackets.

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And given the way the top 8 partnered teams lose members and then reach into the HCS pool for a replacement player seemingly each season. Its not fair for the team to maintain its seeding, given the fact its no longer the same team.

somber swift
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so if 3/4 of the team remains the same, those 3 players' points still count, and the new player bring their points along - while the one dropped bring their points to their next team.

noble field
distant parcel
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But there is absolutely no way for a none top 8 team to enter the top 8's tho is there....Because they replace members

quiet prairie
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Are you listening to what the others are saying ?

distant parcel
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100%

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and I also know every tourney so far, the grand final has come down to a top 8 team VS another top 8 team...

quiet prairie
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Right

somber swift
distant parcel
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And it has nothing to do with these same top 8 teams featuring in the game itself, with cosmetic items and sponsorships and such....

quiet prairie
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Native Gaming White is literrally a team totally new in its configuration

somber swift
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Partner teams get no special advanced points or seeding or anything.
They all had to EARN their place.

Several 'partner' teams didn't even qualify in top 8 for Charlotte

quiet prairie
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Complexity is a matchup tema between Faze Clan and Complexity.. not really top 8

somber swift
quiet prairie
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And if you're tired of NA competition, just watch other region, at least you'll see new faces and team

somber swift
quiet prairie
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NA only you're table right ? Or are they out of it ?

somber swift
quiet prairie
somber swift
somber swift
quiet prairie
somber swift
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@distant parcel I'm not coming down on you - I just like to help people learn and understand about it - it took me awhile at first.

distant parcel
noble field
atomic kernel
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I watched all of HCS charlotte and claimed all my drops, but for some reason never got the death hex for my sidekick any idea why?

untold acorn
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it might just be taking a while, it took me a month to get my hcs launch and then like a week and a half to get my primal glory

somber swift
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ANZ and MX max of 32 teams, EU max 64, and NA 128.
Get registered!
$$ and HCS points up for grabs.

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Sentinels and Rebellion already signed up.

I wonder if Optic, SSG and Faze will bother?

I know they didn't all show up to the pro series last year, every time.

quiet prairie
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Do we know if there is going to be official coverage, grassroots coverage or nothing ?

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If none : do 343 just want HCS to die out ?

somber swift
quiet prairie
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weird

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that's like if a football team didn't played a game...

somber swift
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I'm not sure that the partner teams are required to sign up - although I'm sure they are highly encouraged to

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https://twitter.com/MarkOwnsUrFace/status/1633629806804836352
We don't know about broadcasts yet, but I'm assuming HCS isn't going to broadcast this Sunday's tournaments.

There's a chance they might put together something for Thursday's conclusion to the NA Open.
But given how this isn't being labeled as a Pro Series this year, I don't think HCS is putting any emphasis on broadcasting the 'weekly' Opens.
Especially given the budget constraints we saw for broadcasts of the actual LAN itself in Charlotte.

I hope I'm wrong.

@HCS Is it going to be broadcasted?

somber swift
tall mural
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Nice

quiet prairie
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But we can really see that the budget is gone this year....

somber swift
abstract herald
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Why can't I post links ? weird

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anyways

tame sandal
noble field
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Man not a lot of signs up for this weekend. Likely a lot will happen Saturday night but still. Ugly.

somber swift
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The tournament was posted earlier than the Charlotte qualifiers, but the promotion isn't happening.

noble field
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Yea the hype of the new season is died and it’s just points now too. Might not do well. We will see.

quiet prairie
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And after that 343 will say : "look it doesnt work so we need to focus more on only NA region"....

noble field
# somber swift I thought there's $ too?

I believe it is 2k for the prize pool. Not sure how it is paid out, but it’s likely $1,500 for 1st and $500 for 2nd. Maybe top4 get paid. Either way, for everyone not on a Top8 team, it’s just points. For the Optics, Fazes, and SSGs of the community, even if it is $1,500 for 1st, it really isn’t worth it for them to commit to a Sunday and Thursday to what amounts to $375 per player IF they get first.

somber swift
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What's better for the scene?

Seeing the top teams sign up and play in every HCS event, no matter the size?

Or,

Having a few top teams sit out of the small opens, and letting some other teams 'win' and take the spotlight a few times?

I really do wonder. Because obviously the top teams bring in viewers, but having lower teams do well could be healthy.

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also, these 2k series are actually 2k points PER PLAYER for the winning team...

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If Faze decided to play, but Optic didn't - it would change the seeding for the next event for SURE

somber swift
abstract herald
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Idk why 343i removed HCS Pro Series, HCS FFA Series, HCS Online Supers events and HCS Open Championships events, but I don't think it was a good idea for the competitive scene

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especially Pro Series, they should have kept it

somber swift
# abstract herald Idk why 343i removed **HCS Pro Series**, **HCS FFA Series**, **HCS Online Supers...

This is why they removed the Pro Series and Supers.
They didn't achieve the goals they had.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2023roadmap

HCS in 2022 was a historic year for Halo esports and it wouldn’t have been possible without all of the amazing support of fans, players, and partners alike – thank you. We know everyone has been eagerly awaiting the release of the 2023 roadmap and today we’re excited to finally pull back the curtain. To […]

somber swift
abstract herald
somber swift
# abstract herald Global representation ? Then why all events are NA-based, and specifically in Te...

Fact of the matter is - the regions outside NA didn't produce enough return to keep investing the same amount of $ into as last year.

So they're not doing Regional tournaments for ANY region this year.
No NA Super either, remember.

There's actually more LANs this year than last, and they continue to make the LANs open to all regions, and support teams from all regions with travel for the top performers - and continue to guarantee pool play for them too.

abstract herald
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in Europe we had +120 teams in first Opens event (from November to January), then 3/4 of the competitive population left ?

Why ? because tons of bugs/glitches being not patched (we played almost 6 months with terrible bugs in customs/scrims).
Desyncs, Servers, Crashes, No content .... And all of that during the whole year, and even with Season 3 we have again tons of bugs (especially on Xbox).

I don't want to blame 343i, because they're bringing new content to the game now (even if it's too late, unfortunately). But mate, if they didn't reach their goals, it's because of the game state

somber swift
abstract herald
somber swift
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Maybe, if things go well this year with the state of the game, more people will compete in HCS.
But even if the game improves, if we don't see large participation in the FREE and ONLINE tournaments in other regions - they'll never invest in doing LANs there.

abstract herald
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The only way to bring excitement to HCS is to build real EU/MX/ANZ Circuit and don't let these regions to die

somber swift
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We have our year 2 roadmap.
We can argue as much as we want about the reason for it being the way it is, but it's not going to change.

abstract herald
somber swift
abstract herald
somber swift
abstract herald
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I mean we had 100+ teams registered at first EU HCS Opens, and people stop competing bc of crashes, desyncs, bugs, servers...

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We have only 2 servers, ONLY 2, for the whole Europe Continent ?! We get 90/+ms ping in every game, even in scrims

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how do you want to bring hype and teams in these conditions ?

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I hope it'll go better with time, but I'm bit afraid of the situation. I hope 343i's doing their best to fix all of this

somber swift
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Look, the issues you are talking about affected players from ALL regions.

SIgn ups in year 2 are lower in ALL regions.

It's safe to say they anticipated this would be the case. Because of that, they had to make decisions about how to still maintain a league that would function in these circumstances. And the fact is, the population of players dipped in all regions, but because NA has always had a LOT more players, it remains viable to LAN. No other region currently is viable to LAN. We can argue about why as much as we want, but it doesn't change the current state, or future state.

Right now, the ONLY thing that will help, is if the regions outside NA actually fill the open brackets with teams. If those open brackets never fill up, we'll never see any LANs outside of NA ever again.

abstract herald
somber swift
abstract herald
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I know 343i is doing their best, and I love what they've planned for Season3 (from far the best season we got). I know they're doing their best ❤️ and I'm sure they'll make even better next year

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So Keep it up 343i/HCS 💪

somber swift
abstract herald
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we should get at least 24 this weekend, I'll make sure we get as many teams as possible

somber swift
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it does show a small measure of confidence that HCS has allowed a max of 64 teams for EU, not capped at 32 like ANZ and MX
We'll know the outcome soon

abstract herald
noble field
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I think you two are saying the same things. The game itself caused the population to go down. Everywhere. HCS/Halo needs to invest into getting players out again. Biggest issue is the game itself has way too many bugs. As for the Majors, I think having an Open Major in EU would’ve been huge. Would’ve gotten probably 75 teams to play in it, 50/50 from EU and NA.

abstract herald
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I assure that if we had got an EU Major, we would have filed every slot (96 teams)

noble field
# abstract herald even more

Probably. Would be dope and a lot of NA teams would go to make a vacation out of it too. I would’ve tried to just spectate.

somber swift
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But it will only happen if the game continues to improve, and if EU teams show up this year.

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This is a make or break year for regions outside NA, and if Pros around the world want a scene, they need to show it 🙂

noble field
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Honestly if no regionals, it should’ve happened IMO. Would’ve been so cool.

abstract herald
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Anyways I think 343i is doing well with this season 3, extremely hyped for this season. They're doing some great stuff ❤️.
Now they need to put some money on sponsorships/partnerships with Streamers/Youtubers and make some advertising on Social Medias and bring thousands and thousands of new players

noble field
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Hard to build in EU if the 95% of the top teams don’t ever play there.

abstract herald
noble field
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Haha I know. I’m including Quadrant and Navi. But out of the Top32, how many more are EU?

abstract herald
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This year we got :
Quadrant
Navi
Aw0babobs
Red Wolves
JLINGZ
BLVKHVND
BH3 Esports (you still don't know them, but in 1y or 2, they're gonna be beasts)

noble field
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Either way, 2022 kids or young games had one chance to see Halo in person and it was missing 80% (happy now?) of the top teams in the world. 2023 they have zero chances to see any of them. EU needs one Global Major a year if HCS is serious about EU.

somber swift
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But it's clear it's not financially viable to do every year

abstract herald
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This year, I'll focus on building a really bigger EU scene.
It already started by bringing back Weekly EU FFA Series (we're the only one region who got this back). We're trying to organise as many LANs as we can.

Already got a lan in January in France 🇫🇷
A lan is planned at the end of the month in Italy 🇮🇹
Another lan is planned in April in France 🇫🇷

EuropaHalo are doing their best to bring massive competitive content to the scene this year.
BLVKHVND (EU Pro Team) are doing some great stuff with their Spartan Stadium Series Circuit (with $15,000 USDC of prizepool).

We'll continue by bringing even more content, more tournaments, and try to bring new players/teams to the scene.

somber swift
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all fantastic to see those grassroots style things going forward.

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at the same time, the participation in the official HCS ecosystem needs to be as high as possible.

abstract herald
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BLVKHNVD is not even a partnered team but they're doing a really nice Circuit this year

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I hope NAVI (EU HCS-Partnered Team) will organise some online Cups or maybe a LAN or something

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they need to help improve the EU Halo Scene

somber swift
abstract herald
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Yeah Quadrant are GOATs 🐐

somber swift
abstract herald
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but if I'm not wrong, KIMBQ left to JLINGZ, so I don't know who will be their new player (maybe Tuf0xy ?)

somber swift
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what team name?

abstract herald
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Jump Out

somber swift
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gotcha - did they get 'signed' after the fact?

abstract herald
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they got signed

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(they were already at this time if I'm not wrong)

somber swift
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like, after Charlotte?

abstract herald
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nah it was before

somber swift
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they still competed as Jump Out at Charlotte

abstract herald
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it was planned they would go to Charlotte, but idk what happened

abstract herald
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probably some internal issues, idk

somber swift
abstract herald
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yeah

somber swift
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so in between they got signed?

abstract herald
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they'll be there for next HCS Lan

abstract herald
somber swift
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Ah

somber swift
pliant sage
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sup gamers

somber swift
somber swift
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news on how the 2k and 4ks work
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2023spring

Halo Infinite Season 3 is upon us, and the HCS action continues! The community is clamoring for more competition following a thrilling kickoff at the Charlotte Major. Luckily enough, there’s no shortage of online tournaments to get involved in on the road to our next LAN event – DreamHack Dallas June 2-4. Check out the […]

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Quadrant tournament is for EU teams only

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Faze tournament is for NA teams only

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given they are online, kinda makes sense for lag purposes

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jesus, they just gutted MX and ANZ

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wait a minute, this is an Invitational, not a full 'MAJOR' LAN

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that's not as bad as I thought.

noble field
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Also looks like “Need Org” is the BtH team from Charlotte but Huss instead of Monster. I like it.

somber swift
noble field
somber swift
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Other teams can catch up real fast if those two don't play

noble field
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75% decay from Charlotte?

somber swift
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Yeah

noble field
noble field
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I like how Haines announced his retirement after Charlotte but is still on Proton for this weekend.

somber swift
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Interesting

abstract herald
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TIME TO SIGN UP

EU HCS Open MARCH 12 12:00 : https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/22ff4de5-97f1-4a49-b65f-3448ab4fc9c5/EU HCS Open Series MAR 12 (ONLY 22 TEAMS -> ROAD TO 32)

EU FFA Spring Series Kick-Off MARCH 15 19:00 : https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/f925f57c-301f-4772-9190-6b251ab61ff1/EU FFA Spring Series Kick-Off (ONLY 51 PLAYERS -> ROAD TO 128)

EU HCS Open MARCH 19 12:00 : https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/d41316be-7a57-4f42-8356-08f98f4f2ddd/EU HCS Open Series MAR 19

EU STADIUM Bandit Tournament MARCH 16 18:00 : https://www.projectstadium.com/events/tsk1

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G1 signed up

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still no optic, faze or ssg

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or c9

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complexity did sign up though

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omg, only 11 teams in ANZ, and it's started.

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and divine mind didn't even sign up!

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this is just awful :/

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Surprised about SSG to be honest. They don’t need to play in this really. Maybe they want the 1.5k and think it’s an easy money grab without Optic and Faze. Looking forward to a little bit today and then Thursday Top8.

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Yea

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CyKul, Diagram, Suppressed, Juziro

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No Sceptify

noble field
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Monster playing on C9 today. Interesting.

tall mural
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Nvm instead of nemassist

tall cedar
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Spartan is best pro

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abstract herald
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TIME TO SIGN UP :

50€ EU FFA Spring Series Kick-Off MARCH 15 19:00 : https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/f925f57c-301f-4772-9190-6b251ab61ff1/EU FFA Spring Series Kick-Off (ONLY 51 PLAYERS -> ROAD TO 128)

$1,500 EU HCS Open MARCH 19 12:00 : https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/d41316be-7a57-4f42-8356-08f98f4f2ddd/EU HCS Open Series MAR 19 (ONLY 6 TEAMS -> ROAD TO 32)

$50 EU STADIUM Bandit Tournament MARCH 16 18:00 : https://www.projectstadium.com/events/tsk1 (ONLY 4 PLAYERS -> ROAD TO 64)

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EU Players, time to sign up (why can't we ping EU 😩 )

tame sandal
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Because you'd be pinging way too many people.

feral latch
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Bro trying to ping the entire European Union

abstract herald
noble field
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that's why I was talking of EU only

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EU community's very different from NA one

abstract herald
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In general we (WE = Community + HCS) need to find ways to bring more and new players to Halo Tournaments

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one of this way is to make advertising, sponsored videos/livestreams, another way is to ping players who never tried competing to bring them to HCS competition (maybe they'll test and love it)

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etc.... there're several ways to explore

noble field
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abstract herald
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I was talking of how to bring players to HCS events

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but yeah this could help too

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so I had all my points wrong because I didn't realize that the major was 25,000 points PER PLAYER for the winning team

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Here's my updated NA stats for points, going into the Open that isn't finished yet

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if SSG wins this, they'll get 2k points per player - meaning they would take over second seed from Faze

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and if Faze/Optic don't play next week, and SSG wins again, they'll be placed first

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native red needs to drop, I can see that

somber swift
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@abstract herald did Red Wolves aka FLying Dutchman play yesterday?

noble field
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When is HCS going to hire you @somber swift ?

somber swift
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Budget Cuts

quiet prairie
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they can't stream series so they are not going to hire someone XD

abstract herald
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they've no roster for now

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since Mysta stopped competing

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Cl0nely went to BLVKHVND (with KIMBQ, Respectful and Lunny)

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so Millsy is F/A

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there's also Tuf0xy F/A in EU

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but no other players to make a roster for now

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hmmm
Seems like a decent top 4 squad for EU could be in the works then.

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or at least top 8 in EU

abstract herald
#
  1. Quadrant
  2. NAVI
  3. Aw0babobs
  4. BLVKHVND
    (Louisville Red Wolves)
  5. JLINGZ
  6. BH3 Esport
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that's the EU top6

quiet prairie
abstract herald
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(against BH3 Esport)

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in 30min (bc Aw0babobs and NAVI are finishing their series)

quiet prairie
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quiet prairie
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If they could stop changing name of their team, that would be cool too...

abstract herald
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but they're now on ProjectStadium

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also when you see Lunny on a roster, know it's BLVKHVND

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XD

abstract herald
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they'll very probably announce it for next HCS Lan

quiet prairie
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I'm not going to follow the joke "stadium"

abstract herald
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joke?

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what's wrong with Stadium

quiet prairie
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yeah, this this is a joke

abstract herald
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they're doing things well

quiet prairie
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lol

abstract herald
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no it's not

quiet prairie
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Its gated as much as you can

abstract herald
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it's not

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BLVKHVND is not even partnered and they're putting over $30,000 to organise a competitive circuit. While NAVI is partnered since year 1 and we haven't seen them organising a single cup (like some other teams, C9, SEN etc..)

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A non-partnered team is doing better than partnered ones

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On Navi I agree.
However Stadium/Blackhand is just a cryptofreak, eager to see what are they going to do now that their "currency" has crashed lol

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and again, it's gated... if you're not inside (ie having an account with crypto and all of that) you don't have any idea what are they doing

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@abstract herald Please keep your messages in English, thanks

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yeah I know, it was bc he's a frenchie like me x)

quiet prairie
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yes but we have no rights here 😉

tame sandal
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I swear the first time I read "BLVKHVND" I said "Oh so these team used keyboard spam as their name?"

somber swift
# noble field When is HCS going to hire you <@486629747015811073> ?

so I thought the handbook said the points awards are 2k per player but this tweet implies otherwise.
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1635476490153521154

I've tagged some folks to clarify

Congratulations to your winners of the first #HCSOpenSeries of 2023!

🇪🇺 @Quadrant
🇲🇽 @Luminosity
🇦🇺 DM Off Wish

Registration is live for this weekend's tournament. Sign up in your region at https://t.co/j9kVDEormv.

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somber swift
# somber swift so I thought the handbook said the points awards are 2k per player but this twee...

“@HCS @Quadrant @Luminosity @natusvincere @Aw0babobs @JLINGZesports @SixKarmaEsports @CintaNegraGC @Mindfreak @VertexESC @DigitalNationES @BanditsESC @Halo @Tashi343i @RichieHeinz @DIV360 Is it 2k points for the whole team or per player?
The handbook indicates it's 2k per player (and all amounts are said to be per player)
https://t.co/MRB2sN1wOU...

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I have no idea what's real for this anymore, and I'm just gonna stop tracking points on my side now.

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There've been so many problems with discrepancies between the handbook, to what we see on FaceIt rules, to what's posted on Waypoint blogs.

There's not a robust enough review process before information is released.

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yes, it is

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at the time, I felt it was worth it for me

quiet prairie
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I don't see any discrepancies. Its 2k in the handbook and in tweet

somber swift
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Know what I mean?

quiet prairie
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I doesn't. Its just presentation used everywhere

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points are per player. Tweet follows that. Why ? don't know, maybe to not have big number when there is money that would be "small"

somber swift
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Anyone who never looked at the handbook would look at the tweet or the waypoint page and think - OK, the Whole team earned 100k to split, and 25,000 points to split.

somber swift
quiet prairie
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They did, they did...

somber swift
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so either - the handbook has an error, or, they're putting out misleading information in their tweets and waypoint blogs.

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anyhow, I just think it should be consistent.
I've let Tashi and Richie know on twitter, hopefully they'll see it and can decide if they want to make adjustments.

quiet prairie
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They absolutly don't care at all...

somber swift
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I don't believe that's true

noble field
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About this “issue” probably not.

abstract herald
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Tweet didn't imply 2K per team

noble field
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He saying it does because it says $1,125, which is obviously not per player. So is asking why is prize per team and points per player on the same graphic?

abstract herald
quiet prairie
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Again they don't care about other then NA for Halo. So just this... come on..

somber swift
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Richie agrees it's confusing and has promised to change how the points are communicated going forward.
https://twitter.com/RichieHeinz/status/1635713458242224128?t=ZQdf-r717vNCrmJHgARI_w&s=19

“@AshamanND @HCS @Quadrant @Luminosity @natusvincere @Aw0babobs @JLINGZesports @SixKarmaEsports @CintaNegraGC @Mindfreak @VertexESC @DigitalNationES @BanditsESC @Halo @Tashi343i @DIV360 This image is correct. The images that HCS tweeted out were points earned per player. I understand why this could be confusing - in the future we will post point...

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quiet prairie
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77 players ! that's a lot of them

noble field
abstract herald
abstract herald
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it was the first week some teams were scrimming and some players weren't available, so we'll try to get more players next week

quiet prairie
abstract herald
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this is our actual goal : bring more players, bring new players, bring back old players who stopped competing, and revive the EU Scene

quiet prairie
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not sure about that, prize pools are not the same and its not official

abstract herald
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yeah we know, we try to improve ourselves and bring some cool stuff for upcoming cups

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but we'll try

abstract herald
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🇪🇺 UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS 🇪🇺

EU STADIUM Spartan Series - 1v1 Bandit Tournament MARCH 16 19:00 GMT : https://www.projectstadium.com/events/tsk1
💰 $50

EU HCS Open MARCH 19 12:00 GMT : https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/d41316be-7a57-4f42-8356-08f98f4f2ddd/EU HCS Open Series MAR 19
💰 $1500

EU FFA Spring Series #Open1 MARCH 22 19:00 GMT :
https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/a7af13b1-6989-4f04-b72a-68422d281fae/EU FFA Spring Series Open 1
💰 20€

EU STADIUM Spartan Series - Split 1 Showdown MARCH 25 12:00 GMT :
https://www.projectstadium.com/events/ssss1s
💰 $500

Show some support to the EU scene and sign up to these tournaments

tall mural
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me as a North American 😭

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somber swift
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I'll, thx ❤️

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Fortunately I'm not alone, we got an awesome team, I'm just doing a minor part of the thing

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sweet, good to hear it

somber swift
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SPARTAN just dunked and went 20-1 against complexity in a slayer

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he was 20-0 and winning 46-20something and almost had a perfection in HCS

noble field
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Damn that is pretty nuts. Complexity is a solid team.

somber swift
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wow, C9 knocked out sentinels

somber swift
noble field
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abstract herald
noble field
candid badger
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Which pro has the best accuracy?

abstract herald
abstract herald
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Need an HCS admin pls ?

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Why EU HCS Opens got restricted to 32 teams, when we have more than 32 active teams in Europe ?

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bring back the 64 Opens slots pls

somber swift
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37 teams competed in the EU Charlotte Open.
23 teams competed in the EU Charlotte Qualifier.
29 teams competed in the EU Open last Sunday (when there was room for 64)

As I've said many, many times before - if EU teams don't show up to fill the brackets, HCS will shrink the support.

It's happening in ANZ too - that bracket is only 16 teams available.

If Halo players want to have an ecosystem to compete in, they need to show up.

If no one is showing up, HCS will take that as a signal to reduce support and bracket sizes.

abstract herald
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We'll fill the 32 slots this week

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last week it was just bc some people couldn't

somber swift
abstract herald
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I think we'll fill them sunday's morning

somber swift
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ANZ is worse off - they only had 11 teams last sunday, so their bracket has dropped to 16 only

abstract herald
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so we'll ask for next week then

somber swift
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if anything, seeing there are only 32 slots available should motivate people to get themselves registered ASAP.

abstract herald
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can't post the upcoming EU cups bc too many links on the message 😢

somber swift
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But makes me feel like the merger really changed how EE is going to run, and Adam didn't want to be part of that anymore.
Sounds like he's excited for making future projects come to life.

abstract herald
somber swift
abstract herald
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no response

somber swift
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you can try DM'ing @proud summit to find out why

abstract herald
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the bot just deletes my message

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but np

somber swift
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send me in DM what you're trying to post

somber swift
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🇪🇺 UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS 🇪🇺

**SWAT Nation 2v2 Sniper Tournament MARCH 17 23:00 GMT **: https://swatnation.net/main-event/naptimez-partner-snipe-off/
💰 $269

UberNick x Oats Overnight: Oatagon Tournament MARCH 18 17:00 GMT :
https://challonge.com/UberOats
💰 $750

EU HCS Open MARCH 19 12:00 GMT : https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/d41316be-7a57-4f42-8356-08f98f4f2ddd/EU HCS Open Series MAR 19
💰 $1500

EU FFA Spring Series #Open1 MARCH 22 19:00 GMT :
https://www.faceit.com/fr/championship/a7af13b1-6989-4f04-b72a-68422d281fae/EU FFA Spring Series Open 1
💰 20€

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**EU STADIUM Spartan Series - Split 1 Showdown MARCH 25 12:00 GMT **:
https://www.projectstadium.com/events/ssss1s
💰 $500

SWATMANIA 4v4 Tournament MARCH 25 18:00 GMT :
https://swatnation.net/main-event/swatmania/
💰 $200

**Halo Italia Gamers Arena EU Regional LAN MARCH 25 **: https://www.techgamesitalia.it/haloitalia.it/lan.php

Gamers Assembly EU Regional LAN APRIL 8 :
https://ga2023.gamers-assembly.net/tournois/halo-infinite-gamers-assembly-festival-edition-2023
💰 1500€

Show some support to the EU scene and sign up to these tournaments

somber swift
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noble field
hallow marsh
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Has their been any HCS stream today for the Gladiator's Edge Rakshasa I have their channels to ping me when their live but their hasn't been a single notification yet for the drop and it end at 2am gmt ?

tame sandal
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UberNick's stream should grant it.

hallow marsh
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I'll see if nick is still live update nick isn't live anymore last live 6hrs ago darn

proven thunder
thin trench
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What ever happened to str8 rippin

abstract herald
quiet prairie
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32 teams, its full a shame they lock at 32

quiet prairie
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And still no streaming... what are they doing ?

simple talon
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Is there anywhere I can opt in for notifications when Twitch streams are active? I keep missing drops, and missing drops means missing amazing plays

quiet prairie
noble field
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Faze is playing this week. Still no Optic. Swish is on what was the BtH team. Monster playing on Proton Gaming. Not too much else is changed.

somber swift
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Faze actually signed up for today

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No optic though

abstract herald
noble field
somber swift
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@abstract herald is anyone broadcasting the whole thing?
Or just individual player POVs and streams today?

abstract herald
quiet prairie
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like always...

somber swift
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You would hope that Europa Halo would step up to the plate

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It's basically free content for them

quiet prairie
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abstract herald
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When EuropaHalo can do it, they do it, when they can't, we can't blame them

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  • we don't get enough support in EU
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343i/HCS should think in new strategies/ways to bring new players in Europe, to attract new teams, new structures, to fill their circuit...

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dense birch
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Need 3 for customs

arctic quiver
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quiet prairie
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Its just because you're not in Europe, you can't see what we see...
Do you have game's texts that became incomprehensible because of a machine translation ?
Do you have dev not responding or interracting with you're community (ie European) ? Not even mentionning them anyhow ?
Do you a lead dev tells you that if something happen in Europe then it's "like nothing is happening for NA" ? But not the opposite

somber swift
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I'm not going to argue with you

noble field
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quiet prairie
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ha yeah ?

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yeah they follow Jimbo's stream, he is the only one streaming I think

somber swift
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🙂

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Honestly, we're all in this together as Halo fans

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I'm glad LVT decided to hop over to watch this

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oh man, they shouldn't have tried to hold the ball in that last round

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edgy igloo
somber swift
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lol

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He must've had a really rough childhood

exotic terrace
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Rayne and RyaNoob been together forever

pastel zodiac
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Not really sure where to ask so I guess I'll start here, I attended the World Championships in Seattle in 2022, and while there I won one of the Halo RX 6900XTs, I had filled out a tax form for it at the event, but I have not received any sort of copy in my email or in the mail since, what steps forward should I take?

tame sandal
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That is... an interesting query.

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Do you know who or to what organization you gave the tax form to?

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(and btw I don't know the answer)

pastel zodiac
tame sandal
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Yeah, that's too broad.
I'd try Microsoft Legal, seems like the closest place for that stuff, because there's no public "Microsoft Tax" number.

somber swift
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also, congrats on winning that prize!

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Do you remember who gave you the form to fill out?
Was it a 343 employee, Esports Engine employee, or someone else?

somber swift
abstract herald
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@somber swift I would have prefered them to keep HCS Points per player and to give $750 per player 😂

somber swift
abstract herald
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abstract herald
somber swift
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not sure

somber swift
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I just checked the rules

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it's USA only, not even Canada apparently

somber swift
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Although, this is the 4k

abstract herald
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128 teams are perhaps too much 🤣

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64 would have been good

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  • they need to drop links at least 1 week before each Cup, so we can bring more teams
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abstract herald
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it's not an HCS Online Super lol, it's not gonna bring 128 teams

somber swift
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The handbook doesn't specify a difference between 2k and 4k tournaments for the $

abstract herald
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anyways dropping the link only 3days before the event won't bring 128 teams

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we'll try to bring at least 40 teams

somber swift
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Hopefully Europa Halo will have staff that can broadcast the Pools the following weekend!

weak drift
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Europe halo ?

abstract herald
#

SWATMANIA 4v4 Tournament MARCH 25 18:00 GMT :
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💰 $200

Halo Italia Gamers Arena EU Regional LAN MARCH 25 : https://www.techgamesitalia.it/haloitalia.it/lan.php

EU HCS Open 4k Qualifier MARCH 26 12:00 GMT :
https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/5878195d-5951-4f3c-9226-96bcc865a564/EU HCS 4K Qualifier 03-26

Gamers Assembly EU Regional LAN APRIL 8 :
https://ga2023.gamers-assembly.net/tournois/halo-infinite-gamers-assembly-festival-edition-2023
💰 1500€

Show some support to the EU scene and sign up to these tournaments

quiet prairie
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We know that for too long we haven't been the FaZe we need to be, but we’re working hard towards fixing that.

We hope to have all the OGs sit down together soon, and we don't want to do that without everyone. We’ll do everything in our power to work this out & not let you down.

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Someone over there finally realized they need to earn some points if they wanna keep their #1 seed into the next major tournament

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somber swift
# tame sandal What does this mean?

Basically, their stock has plummeted in recent months, and there are several people that were part of Faze Clan as various Creators that have fallen out of favor with them, and have been posting videos about their toxicity, and ineptitude.

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It's more a statement on the overall organization, not really related to the HCS team, but could be relevant if the org doesn't sort itself out.

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tame sandal
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It's a reaction with extra bling exclusive to nitro, you only get 5 per week.

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I only have one remaining I think.

somber swift
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when I clicked it, the counter went down - does me clicking it reduce your counter?

tall mural
abstract herald
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We got NAVI Snakey to win the EU FFA Series this week

somber swift
simple talon
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When's the next stream, for the Twitch Drop? Did i miss it?

somber swift
simple talon
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That's fine! I've been missing the older drops! I'm glad to see em back!

somber swift
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Ghost ping?

somber swift
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Some different Competitive Road Maps

abstract herald
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🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺

somber swift
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faze fell to native white in winner's bracket

frozen bobcat
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I got selected for the HCS grassroots runway but I had to decline for an important last minute commitment, hope everyone who got selected has fun

somber swift
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I can't believe SSG just won a game 5 50-49 OT Slayer reverse sweep against N8V White to reset the Grand Finals Bracket

tame sandal
fallen tiger
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Yup. Thanks. Server seem to be going through a lot of change.

tall mural
somber swift
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They're a force for sure

somber swift
quiet prairie
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It is pretty bad for now :/
Don't really like the " it is worth investing in the region" of your message. Very patronizing

somber swift
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Take it how you want.
Players have an opportunity to show 343 that the players care.

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I'm out here in Canada trying to promote European Halo....

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Because I care about the overall scene.
But I can only have an indirect impact.

It's up to the EU players to have a direct impact

pastel zodiac
# somber swift what was the tax form for?

the form was for a 6900xt, I had picked it up at the creator booth at the event, and as far as what employee I really have no clue, but im fairly sure it was 343 or microsoft

somber swift
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was it a tax form, or like an internal MS form?

pastel zodiac
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somber swift
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I know it says here 'project details' but you could probably just tell them what's going on and they should be able to direct you to the right person.

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quiet prairie
somber swift
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I hope the teams and players make a splash

pastel zodiac
quiet prairie
somber swift
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@abstract herald made a good point that the sign up links seem to be posted rather late.
Less than a week in advance.

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We've got the full roadmap, I struggle to see why 343 can't get more of the tournament sign ups posted earlier.

abstract herald
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idk, but it'd help if they could

somber swift
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After this 4k, it'll be the Quadrant online 4k tournament (with a regular online 4k for the rest of the world) in mid April.

I hope they get those posted like the day or two after this 4k ends. (maybe april 3 or 4 for the posting, at the latest)

abstract herald
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like at each open

somber swift
abstract herald
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but Idk if we'll be able to reach 48 teams. 48 teams would have been an objective to reach

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but unfortunately there is the HaloITALIA Lan (with 10 IT teams) at the same moment

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so it'll be hard to get 48 teams at the open with this lan at the same moment

quiet prairie
somber swift
quiet prairie
abstract herald
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scheduling a LAN requires months, HCS should have dropped the roadmap in January

abstract herald
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that's sad, but we can't change it now

somber swift
abstract herald
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but prepared a long time before

quiet prairie
abstract herald
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yeah

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and Optic should not have cancelled their winter LAN

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and the actual HCS Optic Major should have been in Europe (London) as initially planned

somber swift
somber swift
abstract herald
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So they would have never reported the whole festival for only a Halo Lan

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they would have cancelled it

somber swift
abstract herald
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you can't play all matches in 1d

somber swift
quiet prairie
abstract herald
abstract herald
somber swift
abstract herald
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We'll get 32 teams. And we'll try to get 48 teams, it'll be hard, but we can reach this number

quiet prairie
abstract herald
quiet prairie
abstract herald
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quiet prairie
somber swift
abstract herald
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alright, then it's called "Regional Lan", not "(Online) Super"

quiet prairie
abstract herald
somber swift
abstract herald
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a Regional Lan in Paris or London would have brought at least 64 teams and many/a lot more spectators

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Valencia was like the worst Location choice ever

somber swift
# quiet prairie Then don't.

🤷‍♂️ you said Tashi told harsh words about the super of last year, but I don't think he did.

He shared results.

quiet prairie
quiet prairie
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Yes but he can't say it...
He said too that the viewership was the best too

somber swift
quiet prairie
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Well, a canon fodder was posted. So don't have the time to continue to discuss that

abstract herald
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Also I think Tashi isn't saying the truth in this interview. The truth is :

  • HCS circuit didn't brought as much people (players/spectators) and money as they thought (even if it was worth it, since they earned money with it)
  • They reduced their budget and focused only in NA while abandoning other regions (and that's the biggest mistake they made)
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=> If they want to bring more players, more teams, more hype, more spectators, they need to set a big circuit with multiple lans in Europe. Make partnerships/sponsorships with Orgs, Streamers, Organisers, Festivals etc etc... and put money on advertising, communication etc. and bring new competitors to the game

quiet prairie
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*fix the game

abstract herald
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Yeah + fixing the game and add more servers to Europe (only 2 servers, what's wrong with them ??)

somber swift
# abstract herald => If they want to bring more players, more teams, more hype, more spectators, t...

Yes, but they'll only be able to continue to operate a league if they can be profitable.
At the moment, doing large events outside of NA didn't seem like it was profitable.
So many things need to happen for it to get there again.

-Lemath is right, the game needs to be 'fixed' better.
That's #1
-Beyond that, they need to ensure they deliver on the plans that are laid out properly.
These tournaments need to start getting sign ups listed earlier.
-Crowdfunding needs to come back too

quiet prairie
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Also : they forgot about their grassroots for like 8 months. Didn't made any contact to community not english (exeption of Mexico) or mainly english speaking.

abstract herald
quiet prairie
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So for french there was 0 stream in french. And we can't talk in french in tchat too... even in EU competition

abstract herald
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  • they need to do advertising and sponsorships with Streamers and Orgs
somber swift
abstract herald
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if you want to bring new players, it's the only way

abstract herald
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yes

quiet prairie
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Ho yes and co-streamer were 90% NA, 5 % Mex, 5 % ANZ. Never understood that (NA already have the main stream)

abstract herald
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If they would consider making partnerships/sponsorships with Orgs, Streamers, Organisers, Festivals etc etc... and putting money on advertising, communication etc. and bring new competitors to the game

=> They could bring 128/128 teams at each open, 96/96 at each LANs in all regions

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idk why MS is not increasing HCS budget

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it'd be worth it and profitable at 100000%

quiet prairie
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Not sure at all

abstract herald
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Look at what COD is doing, they have Online Supers with $50,000 only for the Challengers Circuit

abstract herald
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and HCS can't even fund Online Supers for Pro Circuit this year

somber swift
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It seems like doing regional tournaments aren't effective.

I think doing international LANs in those other regions will make a bigger difference for them.

Bringing the best players in the world to other regions would attract more fans to attend and watch.

somber swift
abstract herald
# quiet prairie Lol, no

s'ils investissent massivement oui, le retour sur investissement mettra du temps (mais c'est comme l'achat d'activision, ça mettra du temps), mais s'ils le font, ça sera rentable au long terme

quiet prairie
abstract herald
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You know what would be good for HCS rn ?

quiet prairie
somber swift
# abstract herald why?

The viewership and also pro participation in the 'pro series' wasn't high enough.
Many of the top teams would simply just not play in them, and then people didn't care to watch it.

quiet prairie
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That's why the decision to make more use of points is really good

somber swift
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having kids in France or England that chance to see ALL the best players in the world in their hometown - that's HYPE

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I hope year 3 can bring an international MAJOR back to EU

quiet prairie
somber swift
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and also - most viewers are US based - and that tournament had no US players, and was happening in EU timezone - so less NA viewers

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USA is one country, and has 45% of the population of ALL of europe.

You lost a lot of potential viewers that way

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of course, there's nothing they could have done differently

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they need to play EU tournament at EU times

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but if you bring a MAJOR to EU, with all the NA players - that gives more incentive for NA viewers to make the effort to watch it

quiet prairie
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Yes but not to watch other thing then NA team

somber swift
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In any case, we have a year 2 roadmap.
We have the cards we've been dealt.

There's 3 parts to this equation:
343
Players
Viewers

343 needs to do their part by improving the game stability, and getting the tournament links up early
Players need to do their part by signing up, playing, and promoting the game
Viewers need to do their part by showing up to watch

somber swift
quiet prairie
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we had players... no one cared. That's what I'm saying

somber swift
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I'm not sure if you're following what I'm saying.

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@abstract herald make sure your posts are less than 20 lines

abstract herald
somber swift
abstract herald
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😢

somber swift
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also, you can't post the same exact message more than once - so if you're reposting something, change a few of the words or letters

abstract herald
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ok so I'd need both of you to not talk during 2min so I can split the message in multiple ones pls

quiet prairie
somber swift
somber swift
abstract herald
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IDEAL HCS CIRCUIT (2024 pls HCS do it)

NA :

  • 4 Online Supers (with Qualifiers) : $50,000
  • 4 Regional LANs (with Qualifiers) : $100,000
  • 1 Major (with Qualifier) : $250,000
  • 1 HWC : $1,000,000
  • HCS Open Series (Sunday) : $500
  • HCS Pro Series (Wednesday) : $1500
  • HCS FFA Series (Monday) : $250

Online Super Qualifier : TOP12 Teams qualify to Online Super

Online Super : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major : TOP4 in Pools and TOP5/6 in Open Bracket

Major Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major in Open Bracket

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EU :

  • 4 Online Supers (with Qualifiers) : $25,000
  • 4 Regional LANs (with Qualifiers) : $75,000
  • 1 Major (with Qualifier) : $200,000
  • HCS Open Series (Sunday) : $400
  • HCS Pro Series (Wednesday) : $1000
  • HCS FFA Series (Monday) : $200

Online Super Qualifier : TOP12 Teams qualify to Online Super

Online Super : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major : TOP4 in Pools and TOP5/6 in Open Bracket

Major Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major in Open Bracket

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MX :

  • 4 Online Supers (with Qualifiers) : $20,000
  • 4 Regional LANs (with Qualifiers) : $50,000
  • 1 Major (with Qualifier) : $150,000
  • HCS Open Series (Sunday) : $300
  • HCS Pro Series (Wednesday) : $750
  • HCS FFA Series (Monday) : $150

Online Super Qualifier : TOP12 Teams qualify to Online Super

Online Super : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major : TOP2 in Pools and TOP3/6 in Open Bracket

Major Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major in Open Bracket

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ANZ :

  • 4 Online Supers (with Qualifiers) : $10,000
  • 4 Regional LANs (with Qualifiers) : $25,000
  • 1 Major (with Qualifier) : $100,000
  • HCS Open Series (Sunday) : $200
  • HCS Pro Series (Wednesday) : $500
  • HCS FFA Series (Monday) : $100

Online Super Qualifier : TOP12 Teams qualify to Online Super

Online Super : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Regional LAN

Regional LAN : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major : TOP2 in Pools and TOP3/6 in Open Bracket

Major Qualifier : TOP6 Teams qualify to Major in Open Bracket

somber swift
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I don't think they are going to do Supers like that again

abstract herald
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--> So for HCS Majors we would have in Pools : Top4 from NA + Top4 from EU + Top2 from MX + Top2 from ANZ

somber swift
# quiet prairie this

yes, I didn't say it would give them incentive to watch EU players after the tournament - just during the actual tournament.

abstract herald
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--> And in Open Bracket : 8 teams from NA + 8 teams from EU + 10 teams from MX + 10 teams from ANZ

abstract herald
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they could make Halo Infinite top3/4 on Twitch every week

somber swift
# quiet prairie so, useless for us...

No, not useless.

I'm trying to say there are 2 parts that are helpful>

It can show that the EU tournaments can still yield high viewership from a global audience, if a global playerbase is included.
Second, it can inspire more local EU fans to maybe start playing, if they get to see the best players in the world live IN PERSON.

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Why do you think NHL, NBA, NFL all play games overseas sometimes?

Because it brings the best players in the world to those countries, and develops fans in those countries

quiet prairie
somber swift
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And its not a EU tournament. Its a Major, so worldwide...

quiet prairie
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it's not how it works

somber swift
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yes, it is part of how it works

quiet prairie
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No, it's not. They are not part of EU.

somber swift
quiet prairie
somber swift
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2 NHL teams will do play a game in Japan

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2 NFL teams go play a game in England

quiet prairie
somber swift
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yeah, they've done that

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these are examples

quiet prairie
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Stop considering England as Europe... they are en english speaking

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Totally different then other countries

somber swift
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jesus christ man, I know this.
It's still the same global region as EU

quiet prairie
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You don't know know. That's what I'm talking about. I'm european, you're not.

somber swift
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you're missing the WHOLE point

quiet prairie
somber swift
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You're not understanding the fact that when you bring the strongest, most talented players in the world to play games in a region where poeple wouldn't normally get to see them play, it is marketing the game/sport in a way that watching online or on TV doesn't do.

It increases the engagement with that product in that area, and gets fans in that area more interested in the overall product.

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When David Beckham signed with LA Galaxy it MASSIVELY increased north american interest in Soccer/Football - it's NOT patronizing, it's business

quiet prairie
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You just don't see what you americans are doing. That normal. You have the dominating point of view.
We need help by money, support, experience to grow yes. We don't need NA teams because they don't respect us. That's a fact for almost all of them. And the fans are not better (they are worse). I know. You don't

quiet prairie
somber swift
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it's a fact that Beckham was among the strongest and best players in the world.
It's a fact that NA Halo teams are among the strongest and best players in the world.

It's not patronizing to bring those players to other regions for those fans to see them in person.
It's smart business

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you're also ignoring that my point would also be bringing the best ANZ and best MX players to be in an EU MAJOR LAN too - showcasing to fans in EU ALL THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD.

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Stop being a victim

quiet prairie
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Because we are... like ANZ and MX...

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I'm not ignoring you're point of showcasing good team worldwide. It's jsut irrelevant to the whole ecosystem....

somber swift
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it's not irrelevant though

quiet prairie
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I think it is

somber swift
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Then perhaps you're thinking too narrowly

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I don't possibly understand how anyone could think that bringing a MAJOR LAN to EU wouldn't help that scene.

Are there others things that could be done to help it?
100%

But of course having a Worldwide Major in EU would generate a lot of hype locally there.

quiet prairie
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I prefer to think, I'm a realist. I have seen the politics of Microsoft/343 on Europe fanbase (ie ignoring or half ignoring them)
I know you think i'm exagerating. That I'm playing the victim. I'm not.
Look at Vaktor, what is he doing to get attention. Did 343 or any affiliate did help ? No they did not ?
And that's only for esport...

somber swift
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We all know that regions outside of NA have lost funding and support.

You're playing the victim when you say that bringing a LAN with all the best players in the world to EU is patronizing

quiet prairie
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I'm not saying it will not bring hype at the moment. But we need sustained support. Not onoff

quiet prairie
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It's not a good diagnostic if you think it's the lack of "figure" that is stopping Eu to grow

somber swift
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*It's thinking that just like that we are going to start having a player base. *
Never said or thought this - you are projecting.

All I said is that it's inspiring to people, and gets fans excited.

somber swift
quiet prairie
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The thing is : it's not going to solve any problem. That's what I'm saying. It's just a a wild-goose chase

somber swift
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It's a part of an overall solution

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and would have an overall net positive effect

quiet prairie
somber swift
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then you're doomed.

If you don't think it would have a positive effect...

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+1 is better than 0

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we could debate about how much of a net positive effect.
I'm sure there are many valid opinions on that.

I can't fathom why anyone would think it would have a net 0 effect or even a negative one - so the only other option is a net positive.

somber swift
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awobabobs just signed up, so that's good

carmine herald
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POSTO!!

somber swift
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The G1 Throwback Showdown is a must watch.

Eleven of the HCS best + the defending FFA World Champ + 4 members of the community throw down to crown a new FFA Champion.

@FormaL
@Renegade_JW
@KevinEcoSmith
@bubudubu
@Falcated_
@Sabinater_
@Svspector
@KuhIect
@Karmea_…

We’ve got a stacked talent team for this weekend!🎙️

Welcome @YNOT_B_RECKLESS @OlManMakowski @Activee @MagickMoonshot @ToolezCasts!

Tune in tonight for Pool Play at 7 PM ET to watch the @LVTHalo x @JJ_Events_ Halo Invitational! 🏆

https://t.co/YYttWCrb7X
https://t.co/Ul6ULZNNAM

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the FFA is tomorrow

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the 4v4 starts tonight, and presumably ends tomorrow

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they're trying to invite a bunch of teams to the JJ one, but the prize pool there is 2k, and the FFA is 10k...

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perhaps all the pros in the FFA get moved to the monday automatically?

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might have pools set up

somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
tame sandal
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Sounds like Esports IS falling out of favor :(

somber swift
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could be - faze is more well known for 'content' than esports though, unless I'm mistaken

noble field
somber swift
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looks like i missed my window

noble field
abstract herald
abstract herald
abstract herald
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Already 27 teams registered. Still 37 slots to fill.

quiet prairie
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Could we get the prize pool now ? even the points ?

exotic venture
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na hcs 4k qualifier #freeagent hmu if you need one short notice

abstract herald
faint scroll
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What time does the 4k begin today?

quiet prairie
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Points prizing are finally online

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And the "4000" is not more cash XD it's just points.
Same for online partenered team tournament

noble field
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What happened to the section on the Discord that posted the tweets from HCS?

arctic quiver
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Had to be removed unfortunately, due to changes to Twitter's API

noble field
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Lame. Thanks for the heads up. That explains another similar in a different Discord I’m in.

arctic quiver
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Yeah, it sucks :(

somber swift
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It's actually super interesting that the 4 teams that qualified through the bracket yesterday are the teams that were 14-17 seed already.
No real upsets. Other than the lack of Complexity!

somber swift
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This feels like a mess.

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It's as if C9 should've been competing in the qualifier all along, but they got a free ride in

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and the 4 teams that actually qualified did nothing wrong on their part - so what do you do?

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if faceit problems with their own bracket setup caused COL to get dropped out, and C9 to automatically get through and then they just went ahead and ran the qualifier with neither C9 nor COL playing in it, there's a REAL tough spot for HCS

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because it's not C9's fault, nor is it the 14-17 placed teams here.

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how do you make this right for COL (if it was truly no fault of their own)?

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Perhaps you have an additional play-in tournament between C9 and the 14-17 placed teams, like a round robin.
Because by all accounts, COL should be autoqualified.

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Actually, a little bird gave me another idea:

The two teams who qualified from the lower bracket should play a series, and the winner of that should make it into the Pools.

Still means that C9 gets a free ride though, so it's not a perfect solution.

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and if that occurs, I'm sure players will start complaining that Partnered teams are getting preferential treatment.

tall mural
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what

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oh

simple talon
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Wait, they can just call themselves the Avengers, with the logo and everything?

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Like, Legally?

noble field
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@somber swift what did I miss? Lol

somber swift
simple talon
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Oh lol

somber swift
simple talon
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I was gonna say, I see a C&D from Disney arriving soon

abstract herald
quiet prairie
somber swift
somber swift
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I can understand not wanting to appear to be 'favoring' a partnered team, but this really does seem like Complexity got done wrong.
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1640530872091971586

I'm surprised this is how they treat their partners

Pools are set for this weekend's NA 🇺🇸 #HCSOpenSeries 4K!

Qualifier Final Bracket
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abstract herald
quiet prairie
somber swift
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I've heard that perhaps it was because they were registered, but no one from the team was there for 'check-in'

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seems strange that they'd be required to be there for check-in if they weren't expected to play...

abstract herald
somber swift
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Given that the Quadrant and Faze Online tournaments offer no increased prizing different from any other '4K' and they'll be administered by Faceit (for competitive integrity) - what exactly do these 'partnered' tournaments provide?

I'm hoping it'll be at least some increased Live Coverage of the events, so that LVT doesn't have to do all the heavy lifting.
I'm hoping it'll be like a mini version of the Snowdown

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also, this edit is amazing

quiet prairie
somber swift
abstract herald
abstract herald
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HCS Quadrant Open Series
HCS FazeClan Open Series

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except it'll be broadcasted

quiet prairie
abstract herald
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Since they removed HCS Online Supers, I was expecting at least something like $25,000.00 prize pool in a 2d casted tournament

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(HCS Online Supers were $100,000.00 last year for those who'd be asking)

quiet prairie
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they could have double the prizing ... even for the 4K... thats ridiculous there

somber swift
quiet prairie
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why would it be 3 days ? It would be 1 day for qualifier and 1 day for the main event
Like normal

somber swift
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the main events are 2 days long

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for Faze

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apparently not for the quadrant one

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more teams in NA I guess

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I wrote this out when the blog was published.
Quadrant 4k was originally listed as 2 days.
The actual blog has since been updated to just 1 day
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2023roadmap

HCS in 2022 was a historic year for Halo esports and it wouldn’t have been possible without all of the amazing support of fans, players, and partners alike – thank you. We know everyone has been eagerly awaiting the release of the 2023 roadmap and today we’re excited to finally pull back the curtain. To […]

quiet prairie
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ok didn't see that

somber swift
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for faze it's still 2

quiet prairie
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OK, might be because of the number of teams

somber swift
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seems like it yeah

still socket
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You’ve to assemble a squad from these four teams faze,ssg, optic and native white which players would you choose, for me I would choose Lucid, Frosty, Penguin, Mikwen

stable dove
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Lucid is slightly overrated, but idk who id choose

abstract herald
quiet prairie
abstract herald
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Let's Hope Quadrant will increase prize pool for their cup, and JLINGZ/Aw0babobs and BLVHVND (already with their Stadium roadmap) will do some great stuff too

somber swift
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abstract herald
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but thx to NAVI they can run something bigger this year 💪

quiet prairie
somber swift
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Yes, I do remember that.

Although I feel like this year it has an even bigger impact, because of how the points work.