general-chat

[bright patrol]

Yes there was..? Do you guys even play the game lmao

Yea

What'd you think we were talking about?

[warm warren]

show me in dm

[coral yoke]

halo reach??

[warm warren]

yes

halo reach

[bright patrol]

Where did reach come from 😭

Im specifically talking about infinite

[warm warren]

you’re an idiot

[coral yoke]

from here.

[bright patrol]

My mistake gang, 3rd person isnt in reach lol

[warm warren]

🤦‍♂️

but when will mnk users get to lower their gun?

[bright patrol]

I dont remember reach being specified but whatev

[warm warren]

yeah i’ve never seen that before

[bright patrol]

Thats infinite

Fyi

[warm warren]

So someone in my game said it’s possible to lower your gun on mnk by modifying game files

then refused to say how

[bright patrol]

They did say how, they didnt say where

[coral yoke]

i mean there's an option to change weapon position offsets that you can access normally.

[signal wedge]

is this legal

[coral yoke]

unless infinite doesn't have that.

[bright patrol]

Infinite has weapon offsets

[warm warren]

so does mcc

[bright patrol]

Yerp

[coral yoke]

ok these halo reach maps are really making a habit of crashing my game for no reason lmao.

even forge world hates me now.

[slim sequoia]

I just learned you can play the best halo game on PC due to Xbox Gamepass Cloud Streaming! Finally get to play many years later!

[hoary locust]

Can't wait for permanent double XP might be able to hit hero by the end of the year

[rocky thorn]

What an odd name

[slim sequoia]

Nathan Fillion is in Halo 5, no other game, my point stands

[vivid thunder]

Hello does anyone know if it’s possible to mod audio on halo infinite?, with halo infinite no longer receiving updates and the game getting the last of the veteran/classic weapon models I wonder if we would be able to apply classic audio weapon mods even while on matchmaking

[fierce turtle]

How does that work?

[slim sequoia]

On the microsoft store you can download like an xbox app, then in the app I subscribed to GamePass Premium which is $15 a month, then yeah you can play MCC, Infinite, and 5 all through cloud streaming over the internet without needing a good computer or lots of storage!

[fierce turtle]

I assume you still can’t use a mouse

[obsidian wyvern]

you can't

[obsidian wyvern]

you do need good internet though

[slim sequoia]

very much yes

thats a mega downside

[fierce turtle]

I just wanna be able to play h5 with a mouse man

[obsidian wyvern]

your game looks fine at like 100mbps but there's a ton of input delay, at like 150 it's very minimal

Nvidia manages to do well with less but idk if Xbox will ever get to that point

[slim sequoia]

yeah I get like 700ish with a 200ft ethernet cable running outside the house to my laptop from my router but it works, probably gonna actually upgrade to gamepass ultimate just to get all those extra games

[dawn spruce]

Isn't he literally the main character in ODST?

Or one of the main characters rather

[zinc bear]

Yeah but halo 5 better

[dawn spruce]

Those are fighting words

[zinc bear]

No, that’s a discord message.

Words don’t fight, silly.

[dawn spruce]

😳 can't believe I forgot that, I'm so ridiculous

[slim sequoia]

this guy gets it

[dawn spruce]

So are you guys big Firefly fans then?

[bright patrol]

Who's gonna tell him

[slim sequoia]

ODST is a fake game

[bright patrol]

(Hes in reach and odst)

[slim sequoia]

I do not believe in its ability to be gamed, WAIT REACH?? how did i actually not know this 😭

[bright patrol]

Actually not common knowledge. Hes on new Alexandria, you escorted him somewhere but it like rarely happens

I didn't even know for most of my lifespan

[dawn spruce]

Yeah you can rescue him in New Alexandria

Nathan Fillion and half the cast of Firefly are also just random marines in Halo 3

I think. Fact check me there

[rocky thorn]

Rarely? Is it not constant? I got it on my first playthrough

[bright patrol]

I've never gotten it so thats why ive said rarely

[obsidian wyvern]

the odds aren't that low, but there's quite a lot of objectives

[junior kestrel]

Played more halo 3.

Nearly dominated with ar and dual weilding weapons.

FFA.

[junior kestrel]

Fhat would be the rookie.

But yes buck was one of the major playable characters in odst

[fallow iris]

Buck aka Nathan Fillion the goat

[junior kestrel]

There was a time where John was a sgt.

Meaning we could have had sgt john and sgt johnson.

[fallow iris]

Oh how we missed out

[junior kestrel]

I want campaign evolved to have the original ce as an unlockable. Exactly as it launched on xbox.

With pc splitscreen and lan mp

[sturdy wharf]

Rank the bungie campaigns from favorite to least favorite:

[bright patrol]

2, 3, reach, odst, ce

They're all great

[sturdy wharf]

CE last

Careful, what you say is heresy

[bright patrol]

Its repetitive, some levels have you backtracking past levels

I do wonder if campaign evolved will do that same thing, maybe switch up the levels with flood like structures and stuff so its just a little different

Thought maybe I would switch CE with Reach

[fallow iris]

i would rate them the same

as much as CE is fun, it really shows it was the first one

[sturdy wharf]

Saul Goodman in court defending christian nationalists who are funded by oil barons to deny climate change: "your honor, it was simply a Halo reference"

[junior kestrel]

Cortana visions aren't present in heroic or legendary, just felt like saying.

[junior kestrel]

3, ce, ODST, 2, reach.

[junior kestrel]

Nvm I was wrong

[sturdy wharf]

Did the original version of Reach also tell you heroic is the intended difficulty like 3?

I looked it up but couldn't find anything

[rare cedar]

you didn't look hard enough 😤

[zinc bear]

Halo 4 is too jolly

“This is the way halo was meant to be played!”

[rare cedar]

[ivory terrace]

im bored

[meager linden]

Good day people of Halo
How it's going?

[warm nimbus]

What about you

[vocal matrix]

Today is a good day

[sturdy wharf]

Yeah those are just the in game descriptions my guy

I meant specific details

You know like, how much, which weapons, what about more unique ones like the needler, etc?

Wait, wrong question lol

Sorry I had a brain fart, I remember also wanting to ask about the tilt skull

[junior kestrel]

Halo needs more hunter encounters

[vocal matrix]

Fr

[junior kestrel]

It would also be radical to have Hunter RANKS, like in odst

[vocal matrix]

Wasnt there golden hunters

[junior kestrel]

Only in halo 5 warzone

[vocal matrix]

Ah kk

[junior kestrel]

Wait the Flak hunters in ODST were gold

[vocal matrix]

Yeah those

[novel island]

[vocal matrix]

I like the design of halo art the most as the backgrounds and playing areas are just straight up beautiful

[junior kestrel]

I want a cutscene where chief field strips an MA5C and converts it to a MA5B

[vocal matrix]

That would actually be cool

Also why did halo infinite go back in time kinda and get the halo reach assult rifle

[junior kestrel]

Oh and puts on a 30mm MGL

[blissful folio]

i might regret asking this but are people ACTUALLY gonna buy cod bo7?

[junior kestrel]

Aesthetic.

The MA40 looks exactly like the MA37.

But functions more like the MA5D

[novel island]

Some

[vocal matrix]

Ah kk

[junior kestrel]

https://youtu.be/qqIZGYi4NW0

Also this dude built a full size (I think) functional MA5C

[blissful folio]

is the halo assault rifle based off the fn FS2000 or is it just supposed to be its own thing

[novel island]

I like every version of the halo AR

[junior girder]

master chef cooked a meal for me guys

[novel island]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[junior kestrel]

POSSIBLY.

But no way to know for sure.

The assault rifle design was set in stone basically as early as 1999. Maybe 1998

F2k didn't come out till 2000.

[junior girder]

embed fail

[novel island]

Essentially

It was a Chinese man cooking

[novel island]

Real question ARE you?

[blissful folio]

hell no

[novel island]

Good

[blissful folio]

ah reading it a bit more, it looks like its based off a starship trooper design

[novel island]

I stopped buying cod after mw3

[junior kestrel]

The marita rifle

[blissful folio]

the morita mk 2

[junior girder]

i stopped buying cod after

[blissful folio]

but still even though its really bulky and massive, i still think its a cool scifi design

[junior kestrel]

Quick aside, I would love to see someone build an MA5 chambered in 7.62x51

[novel island]

Starship troopers man what a movie

[junior kestrel]

And he built a BR55.

That bolt sounded TIGHT

[novel island]

Halo guns irl are always awesome to see

[blissful folio]

unrelated but can i say that the reason i really got into gun and their designs/engineering and whatnot is because of fallout 4, mainly cos of how ugly and inaccurate the guns were

like looking at the designs it made me wonder how ACTUAL guns worked and then i really got into it

[novel island]

That’s some very interesting lore drop

[junior kestrel]

My man

[novel island]

But I can see why you would

[junior kestrel]

WHY DOES THE FO4 ASSAULT RIFLE LOOK LIKE THAT!?

[novel island]

The pipe guns like dude what were they smoking

[blissful folio]

the prydwyn gun

[junior kestrel]

It's like some horrid fusion of an M249, lewis and maxium

[blissful folio]

i think what bothers me the most isnt even the stuff thats "obviously" ugly cos like atp you can just accept its fictional.

its the UNCANNY stuff, like the bolt on the hunting rifle being on the wrong side

[novel island]

And the left handed bolt

[blissful folio]

(but yeah im not a fan of the ugly yellow designs of the pipe guns)

[junior kestrel]

ew

[novel island]

Agreed

[blissful folio]

i literally got a mod JUST to fix that

[novel island]

So real for that boss

I’ll never forgive Bethesda for making the anti-material rifle a paid add-on

[obsidian wyvern]

https://x.com/geoffkeighley/status/1990258326601662521

Titanfall 3 today

Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley)

The night before #TheGameAwards nominations is always full of anticipation.

Tomorrow will bring excitement for some fans and developers and disappointment for others—and that’s part of the process.

Eager to see your thoughts on the games our jury chose.

See you then!

X · Nov 17, 2025, 3:18 AM

[junior kestrel]

I need a 1-1 MA5B or MA5C.

In 7.62x51.

[blissful folio]

actually fallout 4 has some really good gun mods in general. i know triple a game studios cant do that exactly cos of patents and whatnot but ehh maybe change one little thing and call it a day

[junior kestrel]

MANY

MANY GOOD GUN MODS.

I really like the modern weapons ones, and the ww2 weapons.

[languid vessel]

half life 3 tomorrow

[junior kestrel]

Funny thing is FO4 has a 1950s aesthetic.

And the original AR10 and 15s came out in the early mid 50s.

[novel island]

A lot of fallout four gun mods have weapon specs from like mw2019, which are pretty interesting

[blissful folio]

yeah i always notice that when i look up gun mods😭

[junior kestrel]

Most of them are pulled from there.

[novel island]

Is this real ?

[blissful folio]

one problem i have with them though is that even though they're really beautifully designed, they're always INSANELY overpowered

[languid vessel]

it is a running joke in the Half life subreddit that HL3 is always tomorrow

[novel island]

Ahh

[blissful folio]

also even if the gun designs are really ugly, i always enjoy modding guns in fallout 4

[novel island]

Saw one dude have a pelican mod for the verte bird

[blissful folio]

even if it makes no sense. like suddenly because you know a bit more about guns, your guns suddenly become more powerful

[junior kestrel]

Side note, why doesn't the UNSC have an individual Saw/lmg in more of the games?

[novel island]

Real

[junior kestrel]

This is a complaint with both bungie and 343 games

[calm shadow]

hi

[languid vessel]

because it wasnt thought of in bungies time?

[junior kestrel]

The only time a Saw appears is in the worst halos.

[junior kestrel]

GPMG is in halo 2.

It EXSISTS, but isn't a player carry weapon.

[languid vessel]

i have no clue what you mean by taht

[junior kestrel]

The mg turret in halo 2.

[languid vessel]

ohh

[junior kestrel]

Campaign version specifically

[wild shell]

Halo on ps5 the world has fallen

[junior kestrel]

Imagine running around with a glorified M60 or smt

[wild shell]

its crazy

[blissful folio]

i mean ig itd be accurate, but also its MINIGUNS that are mounted, not LMGs

[novel island]

Yeah, when I saw the saw in Halo four back in 2012 I was like dude we needed an Lmg for so long

[wild shell]

all i know is halo reach is the best halo

[novel island]

I love reach, but hated armor lock

But yeah halo reach has to be in the top five and in the top 10 at least

[junior kestrel]

Unfortunately 4 and 5 are dodo

Same for infinite tbh.

And it's regressive sandbox is part of why.

[meager linden]

What about Minecraft 2?

[junior kestrel]

5 I'd describe as having a maximalist sandbox.

[wild shell]

i mean halo reach is like one of the games why sony fans got a 360 imo like ask any playstation fan if they played halo they will say reach

[blissful folio]

i genuinely cant tell which of the original trilogy games i love the most. halo ce has some really iconic fun maps, halo 2 has the arbiter, and halo 3 is generally a pretty satisfying conclusion to the overall story

[junior kestrel]

In the future, I wanna see a proper bag lmg.

100 round bags.

When you have less than 100 in reserve you start using 50 round belts.

[junior kestrel]

Halo 3 also.

[blissful folio]

and delta halo is also a pretty fun setting

[junior kestrel]

Halo 3 moreso I'd argue. Especially given the time.

Xbox was beating playstation before sony got their act together.

[trim saddle]

♫ just another manic monday ♫

[blissful folio]

yeah the ps3 had that really weird hardware thing. i forgot exactly what it wS

[novel island]

In your honest opinion, how do you guys feel about Halo dropping on the PlayStation yes or no?

[junior kestrel]

I don't really care.

As long as Steam releases keep happening.

I don't play consoles, not anymore.

Also anyone wanna see a chrome BR55?

[blissful folio]

honestly i dont really see the problem with it (mainly cos im a pc player). ig its cool that more players can experience halo

[wild shell]

xbox won that one yes ps3 sold more at the end but thats when prices and things got cheaper and they released last of us

[novel island]

Yeah

[hollow vine]

Blow up

[trim saddle]

All Games, All Platforms. ™

[novel island]

Real

[blissful folio]

btw i wanna at least beat ONE halo game on legendary. which one should it be?

[novel island]

Halo 2

[wild shell]

i say no because when games are designed and created on different platforms as exclusives those libaries have an insentive to grow and create unique libaries of games their is a reason ps1 and ps2 era are more loved than the other eras the amount of exclusives were way superior

[hollow vine]

Crazy ™

[junior kestrel]

The console wars are dumb.

Wii beat em both out.

And the switch and switch 2 are crushing the current and last gens.

[wild shell]

because they have way more exclusives

[blissful folio]

cos honestly call it a skill issue, but i wanna actually enjoy my time playing games and like waiting for your shield to come back up constantly while using the same noobcombo multiple times isnt that fun to me

like whats the MOST FUN game to play legendary

[junior kestrel]

The Console wars were just marketing fluff tbh.

Sony doesn't even NEED gaming to be as big as they are.

They're a general electronics company. Tvs, music players.

THEY MADE BLURAY

[wild shell]

Console wars are dumb but having different games on every console is by far the best experience

[novel island]

Halo 3 was the easiest to me

[junior kestrel]

Lotta those exclusives are better.

[junior kestrel]

Yes.

I'd prolly have actually bought a PS4 or 5 if there were more Killzone games.

For that matter. I don't even care about Horizon. It doesn't appeal to me.

Maximalist art design and all isn't for me.

[wild shell]

The way i view all games all platform is let the developers decide i personally hate that idea but its up to them they do not owe anyone anything besides doing what they feel is right

[junior kestrel]

Part of why I hate halo 5 and Killzone 4 (I don't care what the name is)

[novel island]

I wish they would make all the old Medal of Honor games backwards compatibility

[wild shell]

like over design?

[wild shell]

why not just play them?

[junior kestrel]

Yes.

I have decided to use a different phrase cause "Over designed" is so overused I need to say something else for people to get more of a feeling from what I'm saying.

Hence. Maximalist Design.

[wild shell]

yeah i get what you mean i hate maimalist design

[junior kestrel]

I hate both extremes. Maximalism and Minimalism

[wild shell]

anyways consoles are as cheap as ever you can pull out a og xbox for 60$ and those medal of honor games are around 10 bucks

[junior kestrel]

The complete absence of detail is just as bad as overwhelming detail

[wild shell]

hey i like less detail

[junior kestrel]

I'm keen with just a few pannel lines, and some materal textures.

[junior kestrel]

I prefer a moderate ammount of detail.

Not a complete absence. In fact more on the lower end of the spectrum.

[novel island]

You can play the og Xbox versions on 360?

[wild shell]

i enjoy games from all eras but in terms of controls, graphics, camera model size map size etc 6th gen era

[junior kestrel]

But not an absence of it.

Just enough to get a strong sence of form and shape.

[wild shell]

yes

[wild shell]

you?

[novel island]

Damn

[junior kestrel]

I yes.

[wild shell]

i mean what i said

[junior kestrel]

I want the Magnum to return to it's ce level of lethality.

But kept to a really close range.

With massive damage fall off after 15 meters.

3 shot kill

2 body, 1 head.

1,2,3 Blam blam blam

[novel island]

Got a 360 but the controller is on its last leg

[sturdy wharf]

So the community generally agrees that CE had the sandbox with the least unnecessary fat in the series, right?

[calm shadow]

i almost got hit with a basketball
anyway how’s everyone?

[junior kestrel]

Idea: Stand alone halo mp for the competitive players.

But mps tied to campaign are more social and balanced based on the campaign.

[jade gust]

Halo 5 was balanced around the multiplayer gameplay primarily, not the campaign, and having a multiplayer separate and only for comp would be wasting time and resources

And you'd also have to ask questions like "Which one gets priority on updates? The casual one or the competitive one?"

[junior kestrel]

Which is part of why campaign is an utter SLOG.

[jade gust]

It was better before the tuning update since the campaign was balanced around how those weapons felt back then, but I'd also not call Halo 5 a slog to get through

[junior kestrel]

Ideally.

The campaign + social MP would be complete at launch with maybe some updates ongoing.

While the stand alone mp would have continuous updates with cosmetics from the games that come out along side it. As well as weapons and maps and game modes.

[junior kestrel]

*Short slog

[jade gust]

That doesn't answer the question, which one gets priority on updates?

[junior kestrel]

Legendary is prolly worse than Halo 2's

Prolly.

I haven't played 5 in like... 4 years or smt.

[junior kestrel]

Stand alone MP because it's "live service".

While the campaign + mp is more... Yk

[jade gust]

Slogs aren't something which is really short. And I'd describe Halo 2 as a slog, not Halo 5. Last I checked, Halo 5 had like two slow sections on elevators/gondolas, Halo 2 had many more which lasted way longer

[jade gust]

This would create a situation where the people who play the more casual one are stuck not getting updates or forced to move over to the one getting updates to play with all the new toys getting added

Which would make having a separate casual multiplayer tied to a campaign pointless in existing

[junior kestrel]

Quick aside I have some personal ideas on how to do unlockables for customisation.

Mix of Halo 3, and reach.

Achivement unlocks.

and CR unlocks.

Keep the Achivement unlocks to the classic 7 unlockable halo 3 armour sets (replace hyabusa with yoroi or something. It's unrealistic to have hyabussa in every halo)

And then... after that make future content stuffs in some big "cosmetic dlc pack" or smt

[junior kestrel]

People play the yearly cod and warzone in tandom. Warzone is still the same application even... what? half a decade later?

[jade gust]

That's COD, not Halo, and Warzone is given updates alongside the new COD game released every year

Your idea is proposing Halo have a live service multiplayer and a non-live service multiplayer existing at the same time

[junior kestrel]

Which is what I'm proposing.

Conceptually.

Then again...

Idea could work but needs more refinement. Different angle.

Either way I think halo being tuned specially for competitive play is not good for campaign and social mp.

[jade gust]

You did not propose it as being like what happens with COD Warzone at all

You said it'd be a campaign releasing with a casual multiplayer and a second multiplayer which is focused on competitive. When I asked, you explained only the competitive one would get updates

[analog knot]

Was Halo Infinite really tuned for comp? I admit I didnt play it a lot post-release but I feel like all of the major updates I remember were very casual focused

[obsidian wyvern]

because they tuned weapons across mp for comp play, people say the entire game was made around comp 🥴

[junior kestrel]

Ig I poorly explained it.

but my aim was for the stand alone mp to have updates in propotion with the release of new halos.

[junior kestrel]

Is that. Not how that works?

[jade gust]

They definitely listened to comp players more early on when they nerfed things like the Mangler for being able to kill faster than the BR in specific situations

But they reverted that nerf a while back

[junior kestrel]

5 is. Infinite less so.

[obsidian wyvern]

any weapon change is made for comp you don't understand adv smh

[junior kestrel]

But the AR is a tad overtuned with headshots being too easy. I'm fine with it having a headshot multiplyer, but I think it should be made a tad harder.

[tacit atlas]

Actually no, there was 2 warzones, the old warzone (mw2019 to vanguard) and warzone 2.0 (mw22 to now) . The old got shut down and so 2.0 just changed the name to simply just "warzone"

[obsidian wyvern]

that ravager buff was just for comp players

[analog knot]

When H3 had its Title Updates (especially in regards to melee bleedthrough) did people say it was because of comp?

Seems weird to tie them together. But like I said bit of an outsider on this one.

[junior kestrel]

Ah. Well even so that's still functionally the same program having this big thing in parrellel with the games.

[frosty beacon]

[junior kestrel]

I never played 3's mp at peak so I can't comment.

[analog knot]

Hardcore in Halo 3 started with gametypes like Slayer on Last Resort and Epitaph. People forget the vision of hardcore from the company vs mlg was v different. Fun line to draw 😄

[candid solar]

TBF, the Ravager was also really mediocre even in casual.

God, I remember the original Ravager rebound, it was so bad.

[ocean herald]

i don't necessarily disagree campaign could be split off from the mp offering, but i don't think they should have a live service mp AND also release a campaign + mp game every few years

i almost think it would be beneficial for halo to transition into what counter strike/fortnite do. have a live service game that is perpetually receiving updates, with maybe a "major" refresh every few years. that model works better for live service anyway, and we can get campaign focused titles that aren't impacted by other studio factors

[junior kestrel]

In campaign also, borderline useless.

Brute shot is way better and way more fun as a physics gun.

[sturdy wharf]

Rank the needlers (campaign versions)

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah I mean it was bad, it did need a buff

[candid solar]

The Ravager wasn't meant as a physics gun anyways.

[junior kestrel]

Hydra is okay but doesn't have that sauce. Especially when brutes are using more unsc gear very early on like how they did late in halo 2.

[obsidian wyvern]

the flights ravager was good, then it got nerfed for launch. then they brought it back up again

[ocean herald]

i still think the ravager is one of the worst halo weapons ever. at least the plasm pistol takes down shields

[obsidian wyvern]

what

[junior kestrel]

So stand alone MP that get's updates based on the new campaign, new additions and maps and sandbox items?

[jade gust]

There's definitely worse weapons than the Ravager

[obsidian wyvern]

the spiker exists, the plasma repeater exists (shout out to reach for being such a good game btw)

[ocean herald]

no

[junior kestrel]

PP in ce was actually viable too.

[misty marsh]

Rage bait, shock rifle is right there

[candid solar]

🤨 Okay who is wearing Rev's skin like a skinwalker

[jade gust]

Both were mentioned in something I was watching earlier

[junior kestrel]

Shock rifle is goated. Dunno why it's a burst gun tho

[obsidian wyvern]

I've been doing this for 10 days now

[ocean herald]

mp in it's own bucket that isn't impacted by what they want to do with campaign.

[jade gust]

Oh the Rev Clone Saga is still going on I think

[ocean herald]

needs more

[candid solar]

I'm sending a get well soon card

[jade gust]

This might not be the real Rev but we can't be sure

[junior kestrel]

As in it gets new content themed after the new campaigns

[obsidian wyvern]

I've got another 20 days of being sick

[jovial ermine]

hopefully it kills you and your bloodline like the plague

[obsidian wyvern]

thanks man

[jovial ermine]

yw

[junior kestrel]

Also I think it'd be good to split HS into different studios to focus on different projects.

[obsidian wyvern]

as if they aren't doing that rn????

[ocean herald]

no. it would be it's own thing. it can draw from lore, be inspired by the campaigns, but it's not driven by what they do with campaign

[obsidian wyvern]

wait different studios nvm

[jade gust]

You don't need to split Halo Studios into multiple studios to focus on different projects

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah lol, this guy

[jade gust]

Like, you have different teams working on different projects

[vagrant kettle]

Hold some of Revs blood over a lighter and see if he’s the Thing

[jade gust]

Sometimes people will move from one team to another based on different factors

[junior kestrel]

Yeah. I follow that.

[obsidian wyvern]

I swear he just thinks of an idea on the spot and spits it out

explains all the random side notes in his messages

[junior kestrel]

Ig

[jade gust]

Nah, this is very much a Spider-Man style Clone Saga when it comes to Rev. We're gonna encounter a clone called Tnanever eventually

[junior kestrel]

Under MS' strict structure, not possible. It could happen with a studio like id, but.

[ocean herald]

shock rifle can 1 shot headshot. and it does chain damage

ravager is just so bad. doesn't do enough damage and is kind of bad at crowd control, which is what it was meant for

[obsidian wyvern]

how do you know this btw

[jade gust]

Do you have insider knowledge everyone else doesn't have?

[obsidian wyvern]

ravager 2 shots people

and works for area denial

[ocean herald]

since when?

[obsidian wyvern]

since the update like 2 years ago lol

[robust salmon]

genuinely ravager has to be the most useless gun in the sandbox

[obsidian wyvern]

they buffed it but no one seems to have noticed

[jade gust]

Because it's pretty standard for game dev studio to have multiple teams and projects in development, especially studios like HS and Insomniac

[ocean herald]

i have NEVER seen that happen. i'm open to being wrong but legit have not seen that happen

[jade gust]

Have you killed anyone with the Spiker recently? Because I can safely say the Ravager can kill things

[obsidian wyvern]

I love using the ravager because it is genuinely such a strong weapon

the ravager rebound is more of a brute shot

[robust salmon]

spiker? like that spike launcher that one shots people and even some vehicles?

[obsidian wyvern]

no the halo 3 gun

[jade gust]

I wish they could bring the multiplayer version of the Rebound into the campaign

[sudden crag]

Does anyone know if you ever have to break a door open again like that one section in halo Ce where you have to melee the door to get past?

[jade gust]

That's the Skewer, not the Spiker

[vagrant kettle]

I don’t think people know the ravager has a charge up shot

[robust salmon]

well its not in the halo infinite sandbox

[obsidian wyvern]

the ravager charge up is slightly less useful than just shooting it

[robust salmon]

lowkey wish they'd let insomniac make another Sunset Overdrive

[ocean herald]

no, i do but in the time it takes you to do that you're likely already at low shields and then you have to wait for the gun to cool off

[robust salmon]

easily their best game

[jade gust]

They're not gonna make another one because they're busy making Marvel games

[obsidian wyvern]

did they bring back the DoT for the disruptor

[jade gust]

DoT did come back on the Disruptor

[obsidian wyvern]

actually it doesn't even matter, the ravager is a better killing weapon than the disruptor

[jade gust]

I don't think it's as deadly as it was at launch though

[robust salmon]

true... Sunset Overdrive will forever be remembered as a one-off peak release. Maybe it is better that way, don't wanna milk it

[obsidian wyvern]

at this point it's only good for shocking vehicles, and the plasma pistol has emp again so it is the most useless weapon in infinite

I would never pick it up over anything else the game has

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah doesn't feel like it

[robust salmon]

I lowkey never use the plasma pistol

[misty marsh]

Could just be a me problem then. I don't like the feel of them at all so I avoid them best I can

[robust salmon]

in any Halo game, unless its the only thing I can find

[obsidian wyvern]

I'm so bad with the shock rifle lmao, I don't get how people do it

[jade gust]

Like, the Disruptor is a weapon I so desperately want to like, because I love electricity based weaponry but sadly it's just not good at all

[misty marsh]

Real

[ocean herald]

nah, i also don't like using the gun. the headshot is harder to hit imo than it is with a sniper

i do think it has more utility than the ravager (aka halo infinite's official worst gun)

[robust salmon]

disrupter is genuinely just a taser WHAT is it doing in the UNSC arsenal 😭

[jade gust]

It's not a UNSC weapon

[robust salmon]

oh

[misty marsh]

I'd rather carry a ravager than a shock rifle tho

[jade gust]

Like, it's a Banished pistol meant for EMPing vehicles

[obsidian wyvern]

because the shock rifle is a burst and you need to hit all its shots for the perfect, sniper is just 1 shot ofc

[robust salmon]

of course, humanity could never create such a useless weapon

[obsidian wyvern]

the halo 3 magnum

[misty marsh]

I always forget how much I like plasma pistols until my magnum ammo runs out

[obsidian wyvern]

the halo 2 shotgun

[jade gust]

Halo 2 Magnum is also pretty useless too

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah I just wanted to hate on halo 3 after yesterday's laso sesssion

[robust salmon]

nah u right Halo 2 pistol genuinely so weak and useless the state of Massachusetts would let you own it

[obsidian wyvern]

anything in reach with it's stupid bloom

[robust salmon]

halo 3 fans when they cant just spam RT

[obsidian wyvern]

don't even defend this

[ocean herald]

excuse me? is someone forgetting something?

[jade gust]

I didn't need the Reap-X model to like it. Can't wait for the Covenant looking model coming tomorrow

[obsidian wyvern]

this is why I'm hating on misriah and not the game

[misty marsh]

Halo 3 messed me up on so many other fps games for this reason

I'm a better and changed person now tho

[robust salmon]

lowkey you would prolly have a seizure tryna play something like CS

[obsidian wyvern]

I strongly dislike cs and Val so

[misty marsh]

Ironic

[obsidian wyvern]

but their thoughts behind the gameplay is completely different so anything I can think of is kinda thrown out the window

[robust salmon]

valorant hate is valid but cs hate lowkey should get you a ten year prison sentence with hard labor

genuine skill issue

[obsidian wyvern]

they want you to just tap someone's head and kill them, their ttk is extremely low and bloom is worked around that

bloom in halo with its long ttk is dumb. it's a game of luck at any level

[robust salmon]

a shooter wants you to be accurate? Dear God...

[pulsar heron]

good morning gamers

[obsidian wyvern]

you are not helping your case

I'm saying cs/Val is made around that so I can't hate as much

[jade gust]

I'd rather not have my shots veer off at a 45 degree angle from where I'm aiming

[robust salmon]

you got this thing called a "brain"...

[meager linden]

Evening*

[sudden crag]

Me personally I don’t like halo 3 mainly because of the campaign, I feel it’s probably one of the weaker ones in bungie halo

[jade gust]

Like, if I'm shooting at a Grunt directly in front of me with a DMR, I would hope it won't kill the Jackal off to my right instead

[obsidian wyvern]

halo you can pace your shots and hit everything, but your enemy could get lucky and spam their gun but manage to hit all their shots. their ttk is gonna be faster because they're not pacing their shots

bruh

[trim saddle]

I never liked bloom. I dont want my aim to have RNG attached to it. My aim is bad enough already.

[misty marsh]

Bloom makes the recoil feel realer tbh, I prefer it even though it nerfs my skill set

[obsidian wyvern]

welp

[sudden crag]

It doesn’t make sense to always rely on rng in a pvp situation

[obsidian wyvern]

there's a reason comp fell off in reach lmao

[ocean herald]

when your character is a super soldier/is wearning a suit of armor that is linked to their weapon and essentially gives them "aim assist" is does feel silly to have bloom

[obsidian wyvern]

343 had to nerf the bloom because of how bad it was but it still didn't do much for the game

where is this Enzo mf now

[trim saddle]

I still had fun with reach, it was just diminished because of bloom.

[misty marsh]

Veered off 45° to the left

[obsidian wyvern]

lmfaoo

[sudden crag]

Does anyone know why reach didn’t have dual wield

[ocean herald]

game was too peak to add it

[obsidian wyvern]

probably because the mechanic is kinda useless

[signal wedge]

because the other weapon was out of reach

[obsidian wyvern]

you have dual wield for close range guns and melee is always gonna be better so it's just there for the cool factor let's be real lol

[signal wedge]

dual wielding sniper when

[obsidian wyvern]

need actually

[signal wedge]

and dual wielding saw

[obsidian wyvern]

I think dual wield would really only work when the gun is made for only dual wielding

[sudden crag]

Dual wielding jackal sniper when?

[signal wedge]

Spartans can dual wield anything

[ocean herald]

only makes sense with pistols imo

[obsidian wyvern]

balancing the gun around it being used by itself and dual wield is eh

[obsidian wyvern]

I mean that and smgs works

[sudden crag]

Why does it always feel like I run out of needler ammo in 0.5 seconds

[obsidian wyvern]

I am thinking back to the package short in halo legends tbh lol

[jade gust]

Bungie decided they didn't want it as a mechanic in Halo after Halo 3

[signal wedge]

dual wielding pistols like Rex

[sudden crag]

Master chief exclusive

[obsidian wyvern]

does Palmer dual wield pistols or smgs I forget

[jade gust]

Arbiter can Dual Wield as well in Halo 2 and 3

[jade gust]

Magnums, SMG wasn't in Halo 4 and we don't see her using anything but a shotgun in Halo 5

[obsidian wyvern]

she shoots Halsey with a magnum too right lol

[jade gust]

Aye

[sudden crag]

I feel like there is no smgs in reach, when I was playing through it I don’t remember a single occurrence of one

[junior kestrel]

Most studios these days, especially ones under MS use a strict seperate teams pipeline. It's why these things take so much longer than before.

There is no more cross polination.

It's not even some secret it's public knowledge. Only guys who are wearing multiple hats anyomre are those who are like... high up.

[obsidian wyvern]

I don't think there are

[jade gust]

That's because the SMG wasn't in Reach

[obsidian wyvern]

source?

[jade gust]

You gotta play mods to get the SMG in Halo Reach

[junior kestrel]

Lemme see if I can grab one to coriberate my claim

[signal wedge]

if the Ma4 n 5 doesnt have a sight how do they aim with it lol

[jade gust]

And you know this, how?

[trim saddle]

Ok so upgrading our virtual desktops to windows 11 was smoother than I thought..

[ocean herald]

small guns

[signal wedge]

I will never upgrade to win 11

[junior kestrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/vz2qii/according_to_an_anonymous_source_who_previously/

Okay so this bit does help but it's merely an anonymous claim so not much in the way of evidence.

[obsidian wyvern]

you get used to most of its bs after time

bro brought up Reddit as a source, am I surprised

[junior kestrel]

Based on my own understanding, industry standards.

From a little research.

[misty marsh]

Hi grim how are you have you slept recently

[junior kestrel]

How else do you explain stuff like infinite being slow with the content additions. Like the new guns. Or those additions being kinda poor.

[junior kestrel]

Yes I slept today.

I'm okay. Thankyou for your concern.

[misty marsh]

Great to hear 👍

[signal wedge]

10 years ago in 2023 there was a global pandemic

[jade gust]

Your research is talking about how the current ongoing conflict in Ukraine affected specific studios, not anything like what you're claiming

[obsidian wyvern]

if anything, this goes against your claim because infinites team moved away from infinite lol

[jade gust]

We don't have the answers, but I can at least speculate based on my own time working in the industry at a studio

[signal wedge]

actually pandemic cant be an excuse because a lot of major studios were working on projects then

[junior kestrel]

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/an-introduction-to-how-game-development-pipelines-work

[vagrant kettle]

“Anonymous source”: some guy who says he was the assistant to the coffee machine technician who was hired by the snack guy who saw a 343 dev once

[junior kestrel]

The research is not from the reddit thread specifically.

[jade gust]

You linked a reddit thread

[obsidian wyvern]

someone's back

[junior kestrel]

Like I said, grain of salt.

[obsidian wyvern]

lmfao

[signal wedge]

I saw blue and yellow

[robust salmon]

Glorious Ukraine 🇺🇦 has been mentioned

[junior kestrel]

Ik but it's just a piece of immediate evidence. Not really... What I did for research before.

[robust salmon]

feds tried to silence me...

[signal wedge]

go get your meds grandpa

[jade gust]

Nothing in this backs up your claim about how you think studios work

[robust salmon]

"yeah bro trust me I got a source who says 343i used AI to generate the whole game!!!"

[junior kestrel]

More to the point this is assuming that 343 had used standard pipelines.

[robust salmon]

go get your me-AAAAAAACCCCCCKKK

[signal wedge]

343 used interns to make Infinite

[candid tusk]

I cannot recommend mixing copper, lead, and pex in the same build.

[signal wedge]

500 dollars a month Interns

[robust salmon]

Lead Developer of Slipspace Engine, he has been on the 343i team for two months and is getting fired next week 🔥

[junior kestrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/1fy8et2/elizabeth_van_wyck_commenting_on_the_new/

Found this.

Bit telling of what went down for about a decade.

[obsidian wyvern]

another Reddit link

[signal wedge]

moving to Unreal makes it much simpler!

[jade gust]

Ok but what are we pumping through these pipes? Water? Oil? Mysterious glowing green goo?

[robust salmon]

they shoulda lowkey tried to get the idtech engine

[candid tusk]

Cheese sauce.

[junior kestrel]

This constuction?

[jade gust]

Ok, I approve of this

[junior kestrel]

That's a shame.

[robust salmon]

fent 🔥

[jade gust]

One which also doesn't work with what they're claiming as well

[obsidian wyvern]

I should've spent this trip back home watching house instead smh

[jade gust]

I could be watching X-Files right now honestly

[signal wedge]

you've got LUPUS 🫵🏼

[obsidian wyvern]

I heard there's one episode where they actually do have lupus but I haven't got to it yet lol

[robust salmon]

its never lupus...

[junior kestrel]

Microsoft does own id so... It wouldn't be impossible for them to be a support studio to them.

But I imagine they care more about upping the anti with doom stuff. Or whatever they're next project is gonna be.

And it's not like they let their engine be open source in a while.

Last time I think it was the Quake 2 engine.

Or maybe quake 3?

[robust salmon]

nah DOOM 3 is the most recent idtech (idtech 4 technically) that is open sourced

[junior kestrel]

Which engine was cod made on?

Unreal 2? Quake 3?

[robust salmon]

idtech 3 I think

[junior kestrel]

So Doom 3 x quake 4

[jade gust]

Pretty sure they have their own custom engine these days for COD

[signal wedge]

they have their own engine

[robust salmon]

and so far the only one that has used it well was MW2019

[signal wedge]

just like Battlefield has their own

[junior kestrel]

Own engine in the same way as it's been updated for about 20 odd years

[robust salmon]

every other COD since then has had an exponential decrease in graphical quality

[jade gust]

I wouldn't know because I don't play COD

[junior kestrel]

Same base different skin

[obsidian wyvern]

I think this is more art direction

[robust salmon]

MW2019 looked genuinely incredible when it came out

[obsidian wyvern]

with all the trash they mix in, the game just looks bad overall

[little scaffold]

Good morning everyone, I'm new here and wanted to say hello

[robust salmon]

they all have the same art direction (realistic modern day something something), they just don't utilize the engine's full capacity

[obsidian wyvern]

sorry I mean multiplayer

[robust salmon]

hello

[vagrant kettle]

COD needs to go back to its roots

[robust salmon]

I don't trust modern COD with WWII

[obsidian wyvern]

I remember the bits I played of blops6 campaign looked fine

[little scaffold]

Hey there

[robust salmon]

they're gonna make it some stupid stuff about aliens or something

[signal wedge]

COD literally went back to WW2 twice in the last like 7 years

[junior kestrel]

More like they don't let the art team and tech team mingle enough to create solutions that make it look even better.

We've gotten to the point where we ought to have vertex shading back cause all the models are so high fedelity and it'd be a much lower cost system and likely to produce richer shadows.

[junior kestrel]

8*

[signal wedge]

Once in 2017 and Vanguard

[junior kestrel]

No wait 7

Vanguard was absolutely horrible tho.

And so... So much stuff that wasn't around at the time.

[signal wedge]

“Do you speak Japanese?”

[junior kestrel]

Reflex/holosights. In ww2. Yeah sure. (They were invented around the time, but they would not be in circulation even with special forces)

[jade gust]

Black Ops 1 featured a weapon sandbox consisting of weapons from the 80's despite being set in the 60's. Just want to make sure that's noted down

[vagrant kettle]

“I have a plan, I shoot, they die”
AAAAAAHHHHHHH

[jade gust]

Not to mention the modern day jeep you drive around in one mission

[sturdy wharf]

Why do the brutes look lobotomized in Reach?

[blissful folio]

thats one thing i had a lot of fun with in black ops 1 during my first playthrough. the weapons and levels were really fun to play

[signal wedge]

Great plan

[blissful folio]

like even if it's just "run through a linear corridor and shoot", it still felt like i had to pay attention to where the enemies where and whatnot. also the presentation itself was really compelling

[jade gust]

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, fun campaign, but when you look into the weapons in the game, you learn real quick that most of them shouldn't be there

[robust salmon]

they were only used in airplanes

[vagrant kettle]

I couldn’t stand how in vanguard, the Japanese were using STGs like they were standard issue

[robust salmon]

actual marvel dialogue

[blissful folio]

oh man now you pointed that out, im gonna notice it and HATE it😭

[jade gust]

Good

[robust salmon]

it's like the writers wanted the story to be like Inglorious Basterds but they didn't actually watch the movie and wrote what they THOUGHT the movie was like

[blissful folio]

idk just imagine its some weird alternate universe thing where gun engineering was just like 20 years advanced

[trim saddle]

60 games to hit onyx career

[obsidian wyvern]

isn't it better to just wait till tomorrow

[blissful folio]

like hell apparently according to black ops 2, we should have cool scifi spaceships and military armor by now

[jade gust]

@blissful folio I recommend checking out this video to learn more https://youtu.be/hKY0wHib_24?si=V9x9OkztFP9E5SB5

[signal wedge]

Inglorious Basterds was not even based in reality too much because I’m pretty sure in the same movie mustache man gets murdered in Paris

[robust salmon]

we're already living in a cyberpunk dystopian hellscape

just without the "cyber" or the "punk"

[junior kestrel]

That too.
Literally bleeding edge.

And only in SOME

[blissful folio]

like damn could we at LEAST have a cool looking dystopia?

[robust salmon]

yeah but at least it's written well and very entertaining

[robust salmon]

in that regard China has the right idea

[trim saddle]

Progress will go faster after tomorrow too but I will be playing on my main acc so I can get through the 100 tiers, then hop back on the firefight only acc. So id want to get as much progress done before that.

[signal wedge]

sad in none of the recent WW2 stories from COD or BF we had missions in the pacific from the Chinese POV

[trim saddle]

I honestly just want a holodeck so I can at least -seem- like I can go on vacations.

[robust salmon]

or really anything from the Soviet perspective outside of the token Stalingrad stuff in vanguard

[blissful folio]

im pretty sure if that stuff WAS shown, itd be like an 18+ game 😭

but no i agree. cod never really shy away from that stuff

because after all, it is in fact a game about showing the horrors of war

[robust salmon]

WAW makes Vanguard and WWII look like kiddie game

[trim saddle]

WWII was fun honestly.

[robust salmon]

WWII wasn't terrible, it was just generic

"wow guys look we're storming normandy for the ten trillionth time!!!"

the future of gaming is now!!!

[trim saddle]

it probably helped that I didnt play any other game that had normandy in it.

[signal wedge]

BF tried something different and went WW1 back in 2016

[junior kestrel]

Also: It's not trying to represent or sell reality.

Cod is marketed on being SLIGHTLY realistic

[trim saddle]

-stares at bo7 campaign-

[junior kestrel]

It makes most games look like kiddie games.

[blissful folio]

i think one reason why they started to get away from that is because cod started to be used for military recruitment (yes actually) and so SURELY there isn't a conflict of interest, right :)

[trim saddle]

Is there a CoD discord I can go talk about halo in?

[junior kestrel]

The US military FUNDS THEM

[trim saddle]

kidding of course, this is -general- chat.

[robust salmon]

Vanguard wasn't even remotely "realistic"

they had an actual laser gun in the multiplayer. With Godzilla.

[blissful folio]

hm i wonder how this affected why they changed the narrative in their games. SURELY this has nothing to do with it :)

[junior kestrel]

And if the military used a game I made to promote recruitment. I would be all for it. I'd ask for a damn pay check for that matter.

[faint mantle]

Yeah it's called Battlefield Official

[signal wedge]

Mixed units in the 40s 😭

[robust salmon]

they actually used to have an army recruitment game called "america's army"

[junior kestrel]

There were some but they were... A minority

[junior kestrel]

Last one was in 2013.

[trim saddle]

AA was a fun game, it changed the insults they said depending on what you selected for where you were born.

[junior kestrel]

The US military also sponsored the Transformers movies.

[signal wedge]

no wonder there was so much military in those movies

[trim saddle]

LEFT CHEEK, LEFT CHEEK, LEFT CHEEK

[robust salmon]

and it was so peak

[signal wedge]

remember transformers used the railgun once in the entire series and then it was forgotten about

[junior kestrel]

And then a decade later the Railgun was revealed irl and it was more conventional looking and kinda boring but still cool.

[signal wedge]

they are so mid irl

[junior kestrel]

https://youtu.be/O2QqOvFMG_A

We're on our way boys.

[blissful folio]

like a quake railgun?

[signal wedge]

they are also tiny and on ships

[junior kestrel]

More like a mini mac gun

[robust salmon]

the PLA is genuinely cooked if they try somethin funny

boutta realize why we don't got free healthcare 🔥

[hollow vine]

[junior kestrel]

I wanna see the Halo universe expanded

I wanna see what the UNSC used before the pelican and condor.

[signal wedge]

the helicopter

[candid tusk]

Spun their arms around really fast.

[robust salmon]

it would be cool if different spartan teams/companies had their own unique cultures and fighting styles

like the space marines from 40k

[echo nova]

Hello guys.

[junior kestrel]

Spartan legions.

Which would be fitting since that's what spartans of antiquity were.

[severe flame]

Chevy tahoe

[candid tusk]

That was an Inny vehicle. The UNSC would never stoop so low.

[junior kestrel]

Ironically the warthog is just a monsterously beefed up tahoe

But also a whillies jeep.

It'd be funny if Bungie said the hog was made by Willies.

[hearty flame]

F

[wild shell]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-bo7-cod-meme-call-of-duty-gif-16532629578521690598

lets go guys

[echo nova]

It’s weird. It felt really slow and inaccurate.

I don’t know how to explain it. It felt like I was moving at half the speed of bo6 and the gunplay is just kind of off.

[fallow iris]

Call of Slop 7

[robust salmon]

black slops 7

if it weren't for mindseye than it legitimately would be the worst game of 2025

[junior kestrel]

To be fair knife running and injecting aderole does that to you.

[junior kestrel]

Call of slop 24*

[calm shadow]

hi

[junior kestrel]

Master chief. You mind telling me what you're doing in space?

[calm shadow]

you tell me mr grim ☹️

[junior kestrel]

...

You were supposed to finish the quote. But improvised.

[calm shadow]

…

MY MEMORY SUCKS ☹️

[junior kestrel]

Sir:

[calm shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

[junior kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/halo3-gif-23711006

[calm shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[faint mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/amm-gif-8242971159485088966

[calm shadow]

real

[ornate sequoia]

halo 4 an ancient evil awakens
halo 7 an even more ancient evil awakens

[fluid kettle]

hey, is there a was to turn off taking damage unscoping by chance in halo infinite?

[faint mantle]

No, it's a core part of the game

I don't even think it's an option in Forge

[fluid kettle]

okay thank you!

[jade gust]

Campaign doesn't feature descoping in Infinite

Which I think was an odd decision since the rest of the game does feature it

[little scaffold]

I played Halo with friends but last night was the first time I played Halo solo, and started with Reach.

[junior kestrel]

Seems silly.

Descoping is part of halo's identity. And in some respect simulates being suppressed.

[little scaffold]

I have done some heavy tweaking with my settings to get the best out of each game.

Like changing the controls to feel modern and smooth.

[candid solar]

Not the first time tbh.

[junior kestrel]

5?

[analog knot]

4

[junior kestrel]

Ah.

[jade gust]

Aye, Halo 4 tried it first but at least it was consistent across the whole game with it not being a feature

[little scaffold]

Guys?

[candid solar]

I meant more the "Campaign has things the rest of the game lacks"

[jade gust]

Ah

[junior kestrel]

Isn't that every halo?

[candid solar]

No, actually.

[analog knot]

Not being able to descope makes H4 gameplay a snoozefest, its too bad. At least it has good action sack gametypes

[junior kestrel]

No wait. Ce mp has things campaign didn't have

But that's only accounting for custom edition/gearbox port.

[jade gust]

I'm indifferent on if Halo should or shouldn't have it as a feature, I wouldn't really say it's a part of Halo's identity. I just think it's one of the things which should be consistent across campaign and multiplayer within a Halo game

[little scaffold]

Did anyone pay attention to what I said at all?

[junior kestrel]

Agreed.

We should expect a consistent experience across main modes.

[junior kestrel]

Sorry. Lemme read

[junior kestrel]

In what way?

Like layout changes for controller?

Personally I keep to stick zoom for classic halo, but lt for ADS in 5 and infinite.

And yes, infinite is ads just masked.

[jade gust]

Zooming in in the old Halo games is just ADS without an animation for the player using their weapon's sights

[candid solar]

No you don't understand I must insist that it was something entirely different regardless of reality

[little scaffold]

Making the controls consistent and not change with every game like the reload button, melee and throw grenade button, ect. I was inspired by Destiny 2's control layout and changed my controls for each game like that also don't forget the weird drift cam issue on Halo games where even if you got a new controller the camera drifts even if you don't have joystick drift

I also tweaked my graphics settings to reduce my stutter and to keep a stable 60 FPS

[junior kestrel]

Are you... agreeing with me before I go into how zoom and ads are different?

[candid solar]

No. Because ADS and scoping in are the same thing.

[jade gust]

Trench is being sarcastic

[candid solar]

Insisting otherwise is coping with being wrong, by insisting you aren't wrong.

[little scaffold]

I misread this as narcissistic instead of sarcastic XD

[candid solar]

Which, personally, I think that is a bit unhealthy.

[junior kestrel]

Halo 5 ads and infinite ads are different.

Infinite is closer to a zoom.

But.

Prior games zooms were only zooms. Mostly. They extended the red redical range but not aim assist while active. As far as I know.

5 and infinite's do. But infinite to a lesser extend.

Come to think of it infinite has some of the softest aim assist. At least with pc controller.

[jade gust]

Anyway, this control scheme talk reminded me about how I've been thinking of changing up my control scheme. Might spend the evening doing that

[candid solar]

Zooms and ADS are the same thing. Only difference is that the latter isn't too lazy to add a gate animation to start the looking down of the sight.

[junior kestrel]

Another thing. Non scope weapons had a binoc zoom.

[little scaffold]

I wanted the most consistent and smooth controls for the easiest experience into Halo and I admit it all paid off whenever I could play Halo without having to remap how my brain works with shooters.

[junior kestrel]

Can't argue with that. I prefer playing each game on it's terms, default controls.

Except infinite's who I modified to be more to my liking.

[jade gust]

ADS/Zoom are the same thing, some games handled them a little differently but they're still the same mechanic. It'd be like saying a game which calls the dodge mechanic a roll has a different mechanic to dodging

[junior kestrel]

RS to crouch, B to smack.

Can't remember what else I did.

[junior kestrel]

I'm using zoom and ads colonialism differently.

[jade gust]

What?

What does colonialism have to do with this?

[little scaffold]

Also my hot take with the series is that Halo: CE Anniversary Edition isn't that bad and I think people need to stop complaining about it, I like seeing an old game get refreshed in a modern take.

[junior kestrel]

Cod style ads, on controller. Boosts aim assist when in use, in addition to accuracy.

That is what halo 5 does.

Infinite does not. It's closer to a zoom.

So by definition. Zoom is an ads. But when I say ads, I am refering to cod style ads. And zoom, more in line with halo's scoping, and doom 3's zoom.

As far as I can tell infinite is closer to a zoom.

[silver arch]

I respectfully disagree, I feel the CE anniv graphics do not do the original atmosphere any justice

[echo nova]

It almost sound almost sound alike you’re playing a Bethesda game.

If you set y to jump I might have an aneurysm.

[junior kestrel]

Coloclialsim.

Typo.

[little scaffold]

Well as long as you're not attacking me about my opinions then you're good in my book

[analog knot]

colloquialism

[fierce zephyr]

Honestly I’m a big fan of the ads in infinite I’m glad it’s being added in the remake but that’s just my opinion ofc not everyone is gonna agree with it

[junior kestrel]

B is not melee in bethesda games.

[junior kestrel]

Thanks.

[echo nova]

I know. I was talking about the rs to crouch part.

[junior kestrel]

I'm not a fan personally. But if they are gonna add it. I'd at least like the ar to have flip up sights.

Automatically flipping up and down when adsing.

[junior kestrel]

That's the default in 5.

[astral iris]

Fortnite better add a Cortana Sidekick

[junior kestrel]

Get back in the pod diver.

[little scaffold]

Also another hot take of mine is that I think Halo 4 is a solid Halo entry and people overreact over it.

[hasty zinc]

nah it's terrible

[astral iris]

Ive already fought for democracy today!

[jade gust]

Who are you and where is Aegis?

[trim saddle]

its hard to beat a breakfast sandwich with blackberry jelly on it 🤤

[junior kestrel]

I think people overreacted.

But it is terrible.

[fierce zephyr]

That’s fair but I’m also hoping they consider adding the magnum ammo amount of the original CE to the remake

[hasty zinc]

H4 = COD basically. smh

[calm shadow]

u made me hungry… how could you ☹️

[junior kestrel]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic?

[echo nova]

I never actually realized that. If a game doesn’t have the cod controls scheme I change it to those controls immediately.

[astral iris]

Just give the AR 60 rounds like the OG and everyone will love campaign evolved

[junior kestrel]

I'm feeling quite hungry.

[hasty zinc]

they tried to give Chief "feelings" like cmon, he's a player insert, he's supposed to be me

[ocean herald]

hot take

[junior kestrel]

It's already 90% cod controls.

[trim saddle]

why is a mod ragebaiting?

[ocean herald]

i for one am happy chief is now just as depressed as i am. that's 100% as real as it can be

[jade gust]

Ok, Aegis has definitely been replaced by a duplicate, I know he'd never say this

[junior kestrel]

...

Stop being sarcastic.

[silver arch]

Of course not, I just personally can't stand the anniv graphics. They ruin the lighting in a lot of places. Plus it felt lazy in some ways. Like how they never bothered to edit the models for either the wraith or the scorpion, so both just have holes where the gunner used to be. Animations also look off due the models not really fitting well with them. Take the elites for instance. The reach elites are absolute units, so they just look goofy with animations meant for thinner/lankier models.

[abstract prawn]

While you are right that they are superficially two names for the same idea. The difference between how Halo handles ADS and how other games do is pretty stark.

In every other game on the market, aiming down sight impacts both your weapon and player stats. Usually tightening your weapon's spread to be near 100% centered, and replacing bloom-based recoil with physical vertical recoil. As well your character's movement speed is dropped significantly.

In Halo, ADS doesn't impact a weapon's spread or a player's movement speed. It only increases the aim assist range on a weapon, and how much the bloom recoil affects it.

That and traditional ADS has flinch while Halo ADS has descope.

So that's what people mean when they specify Zoom vs ADS.

[calm shadow]

😞

[junior kestrel]

Serious note. I don't disagree with the idea of a more emotional chief story.

[candid solar]

Halo 4 is stinky and bad, unlike the best game ever, Halo Reach. /s

[fierce zephyr]

Honestly I liked the campaign the theme of Cortana goijg rampant and stuff wasn’t bad of a story but they ruined it with the promethiums imo they could’ve made it way better if the brutes or a different enemy was there

[junior kestrel]

Trench be honest with yourself.

We both hate reach.

[candid solar]

Lmao, seeing the fire react go down by one the second I add the /s

[junior kestrel]

I added one.

[little scaffold]

Not in my viewpoint, Halo 4 is fine.

[echo nova]

Honestly I wouldn’t know. What I was saying was, if it’s different I just change it immediately.

Pretty much the only exceptions are games by Bethesda and even then I set it to where my sticks are the same, my paddles are the same and x is interact.

[ocean herald]

i chose to believe the halo 4 part is sarcasm and not the entire statement

[trim saddle]

I enjoyed every halo in some shape or form. I feel like im a rare breed of halo player.

[candid solar]

Uh, no, it's actually only the Reach part that's sarcasm

4 is stinky and bad because it's built on Reach's bones.

[calm shadow]

real

[ocean herald]

i have subtracted my fire react

[silver arch]

Nah halo 5 is actually the best game ever conceived. Award winning writing, amazing campaign, unique art style, and revolutionary multiplayer. Truly the game of all time

[junior kestrel]

I can't say you aren't

[candid solar]

Now, this, unironically, is correct. Except the award winning campaign part.

[junior kestrel]

Hehe.

Reach and 4 be bad lol

[candid solar]

Not because the campaign was bad, but because it didn't win any awards to my knowledge.

[fierce zephyr]

Yea I fw infinite hella but everyone seems to hate it 😭

[silver arch]

I was being hyperbolic for the lols

[abstract prawn]

It's true you can say something good about every Halo game. But that doesn't make every Halo game good.

[trim saddle]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[junior kestrel]

I think there was one.

There maybe also a joke award but those don't matter.

[candid solar]

Well, yeah, Reach exists. I can say I enjoyed, uh...

IDK, watching that edgelord die in a silly way was fine I guess

[silver arch]

I don't like 5 and was disappointed by it. I have many issues with it, but it's not a bad game by any means

[candid solar]

The best part of Reach was when Emile stopped talking for good.

[junior kestrel]

Lotta 5's issues come from story presentation.

[calm shadow]

LOL😭😭

[junior kestrel]

The best part of reach was before emile was on screen.

[fierce zephyr]

Halo 5 multiplayer is still hella elite

[broken vale]

I’m in the chat now so the conversation should be a million times better

[junior kestrel]

I wish noble team just had mk 5/mk 5 b helmets.

[candid solar]

Jega in Halo Infinite is just Emile's scalysona.

[silver arch]

I think people forget that halo has had super hero movie dialogue for the longest time

[ocean herald]

my favorite part of h5 was the battle against chief were you get to watch the cutscene. peak gameplay design and story telling

[silver arch]

Just look at halo 3 lol

[junior kestrel]

"He's like the darkest version of the arbiter"

[junior kestrel]

Halo ce and 2 also.

It's in halo's identity

[calm shadow]

identitu

[calm shadow]

ok i’m sorry 💔💔

[severe flame]

Love bungie's halo to bits but im so glad halo studios improved the dialogue massively

[obsidian wyvern]

infinites wasnt great

[severe flame]

Obviously not including halo 2

[echo nova]

H5 has the only campaign I didn’t love. Mp was still good though.

So I’m with you.

[trim saddle]

"Apollo has landed"

[junior kestrel]

Also as far as first level cinematic is concerned with infinite.

I prefer when chief said "we need to fight"

Instead of reusing "I need a weapon"

[silver arch]

I agree for the most part, infinite's dialogue still had those moments for sure, but they felt more impactful

[fierce zephyr]

U reminded me of chak lok from infinite god I loved his intro when I first saw him in the campaign

[severe flame]

Do agree with this

[junior kestrel]

I wouldn't say 343 improved on that front.

Like... at all.

[junior kestrel]

Not consistently at least.

Halo 4, 5 and 6 suck cause I say so.

[hasty zinc]

I think my favorites will be Halo's 6/7

[junior kestrel]

No I'm not an authority. I just say they're bad.

[trim saddle]

I didnt have much fun in h4/5 campaign so I didnt replay them like I did the other halos. The fights seemed labor intensive and it just didnt make the happy brain juice flow.

[abstract prawn]

I still think the Didact is my favorite Halo villain. Even if I'm in the "Forerunners should have been humans" camp. He was just so well voiced and his dialogue so well written.

[echo nova]

I think I’m the exception here. I’m the heretic.

I think the 343 games are better than 1, 2, or reach.

[junior kestrel]

Prometheans are like anti flood.

Flood are nemerous and squishy.

Prometheans are tanky... and also nemerous.

[naive surge]

Who isnt an authority? All you need to be an authority is to experience the art to have an opinion on it

[junior kestrel]

And belligerent.

[junior kestrel]

...

In what capacity?

Belligerent and numerous

[severe flame]

I don't think theyre at all better, but i do believe they improve on dialogue (except for halo 2.) Especially in halo 4 (NOT INCLUDING SPARTAN OPS)

[junior kestrel]

Spartan ops sucks so bad. I don't even know why people like the story.

[naive surge]

I need to check out how that stargate game turned out

[obsidian wyvern]

cc @zinc bear

[hasty zinc]

yoooooooo

[junior kestrel]

I love stargate.

[echo nova]

Also I promise I’m not trying to bait here. I love all of them but 1, and 2 feel unfinished and thrown together, and reach feels like bungie was playing around a lot.

[severe flame]

Well makes sense for 2 that game had half of its content cut lmao

[echo nova]

I know what you’re saying btw. I was just taking it a step further.

[junior kestrel]

Technically it is 6, and 7.

Or it would have been had it actually been infinite

[obsidian wyvern]

i do not care

[junior kestrel]

I love both.

[obsidian wyvern]

this is not the point of the video

[junior kestrel]

K.

[trim saddle]

I still want glibnub strapped to the hood of my warthog talking crap as I drive around.

[abstract prawn]

Preferring them is one thing. But the "golden age" of Halo is 1-3 for a reason. Those games were still topping online population charts years post-release. Starting with Reach Halo has struggled to compete with the market, and had its population tank in weeks time and time again.

[echo nova]

Exactly. And for ce, the second half is the first half in reverse because they can out of time.

I get why, but 4 and 5 feel complete.

[junior kestrel]

I mean like...

They weren't finished. Mostly.

[candid solar]

Isn't that the Halo 2 shotgun? That can't kill anything.

[severe flame]

But yeah i get that! Halo CE and 2 absolutely have their flaws, but I still think they feel more finished than infinite (i do still love infinite.) 5 is bad, imo. 4 i think is the most complete and satisfying 343 game.
Its ok because nothing beats 3 and odst anyway 🤑🤑🤑

[calm shadow]

aaaa

[hasty zinc]

idk, it's just a meme

[junior kestrel]

You a betting...

What would be the right word bro? Idk which would be applicable considering your pronouns?

[trim saddle]

person?

[junior kestrel]

... that's so... it has no sauce

[junior kestrel]

Are you a betting bird?

[fierce zephyr]

I hated infinite when I had to fight bassus on legendary genuinely the most difficult boss fight I’ve ever done in all my years of playing games

[naive surge]

Does the "halo 2 shotgun sucking" come from like legendary or mp? Played some campaign the other day and it was as good as i remember(very)

[obsidian wyvern]

mp

[severe flame]

Ive seen enough send them to promised consort radahn

[junior kestrel]

Mostly good on flood.

[obsidian wyvern]

In order of shotguns in ranking goes: CE (campaign), 4, 5, 3, Reach, Mauler, a water bottle, a papercut, 2.

[ocean herald]

too many word & number

[severe flame]

Halo 4 shotgun is so good man i love that thing sm

[trim saddle]

paperclip comes right after papercut also

[obsidian wyvern]

they got rid of the pinned message so i cant screenshot it

[junior kestrel]

I say 5's is worse than 3. And 2 for that matter. Soley for the low ammo.

[fierce zephyr]

I loved the halo 4 dmr

[hasty zinc]

y'all take everything too far lol. Just look at pic and laugh smh

[echo nova]

3 is by far the best of them all. I won’t disagree with that ever. 3 was the 1 time that bungie actually finished a game that it felt like they wanted to make.

[obsidian wyvern]

i lied, its back

[junior kestrel]

For that matter. 4 has the worst guns by virtue of ammo being soooo.......

Mods swear for me.

[abstract prawn]

Idk I think Reach's was stronger than 3's. It had a ohk range that wasn't "are your tips touching?"

[severe flame]

4 actually has the best guns because it has the saw no i will not be discussing this

[trim saddle]

no you dont understand, people THRIVE off of these things. They absolutely need to debate everything and will not laugh at jokes.

[fierce zephyr]

Yeah halo 2 shotgun is genuinely awful it felt like it was doing less damage than a plasma pistol

[junior kestrel]

Also correct tbh

I want the halo ce shotgun to return.

In it's full glory. With a tight spread.

And good range too.

[trim saddle]

ah yes the predictable pellet spread

[junior kestrel]

I wanna kill from 20 meters. Or more.

[fierce zephyr]

I want them to kinda buff the ar in the campaign remake cause it’s such a bad weapon down the line

[junior kestrel]

The only shotgun in gaming with a remotely accurate kill range is the doom 1&2 shotgun.

[abstract prawn]

CE's shotgun didn't have a tight spread. It just didn't have a short arbitrary range where the bullets would disappear, and did so much bonus damage to Flood that a single projectile could be fatal from halfway across the room.

The shots still went all over the place though.

[junior kestrel]

My friend.

I outplay br users with consistently. In halo 3.

[severe flame]

Mossberg in insurgency sandstorm also tbh

Granted that might be an unfair comparison

[junior kestrel]

Yeah. But it felt like the shots multiplied the further they went tbh.

[ocean herald]

https://tenor.com/view/things-that-never-happened-jeopardy-alex-trebek-never-happ-gif-14574212

[junior kestrel]

RON shotguns also?

[junior kestrel]

I make the impossible possible.

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/things-that-never-happened-jeopardy-alex-trebek-never-happ-gif-14574212

[hasty zinc]

yoink

[molten pelican]

nice one rev

[junior kestrel]

Either way. Halo shotgun. It shouldn't be balanced.

At all.

Shotguns shouldn't be balanced.

And if someone thinks so. I personally...

Hope they have a really nice day.

[abstract prawn]

To be fair, the AR in Halo 3 has a better shot at beating a BR than, say, the AR in CE has of beating a Magnum.

[obsidian wyvern]

the bulldog shotgun is perfectly balanced and makes it one of the best shotguns in halo

[junior kestrel]

I care little abt balance.

[hasty zinc]

I regret posting that picture

[trim saddle]

i do like the bulldog but i wish the standard shotty was in infinite also.

[naive surge]

I hate using the bulldog so much

[obsidian wyvern]

the banished one is nice

[junior kestrel]

Heatwave takes it place.

[trim saddle]

nnnno

[molten pelican]

Kinda with you here lol

[obsidian wyvern]

the heatwave does not take its place lmao

[abstract prawn]

The Bulldog needs more ammo is all. It should carry enough to be used as a primary.

[molten pelican]

I want brute shot

[obsidian wyvern]

i think 7 is fine

[junior kestrel]

It serves as a close range 1 to 2 shot kill shotgun type.

[obsidian wyvern]

its not 1 shot in any case

and thats the reason why most people want it back

[trim saddle]

even the scatterbound heatwave doesnt one shot.

[junior kestrel]

It's a cyclinder magazine. A revolving shotgun.

Make it a full auto drum mag fed. Like the aa 12 or the soviet shotgun based on the ak.

[abstract prawn]

I find it kind of funny that the shotguns switched roles. The Bulldog is more like the Mauler, while the Mutilator is more like the M90

[obsidian wyvern]

i swear you can use the bulldog as an automatic

[naive surge]

Saiga?

[junior kestrel]

Yes thanks

[junior kestrel]

You can. But it's still pump.

[trim saddle]

i believe that is one you can hold the trigger down and itll just go

[robust salmon]

Halo 4+5 shotgun actually was insane

[severe flame]

Its still pump action, you just dont have to press it manually lol

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah u can i just tested it lol

[junior kestrel]

You mean M90?

[ocean herald]

bulldog is at least consistent in cq, i just don't like it when compared to the og shotgun.

least consistent weapon of all time is infinite's grav hammer

[robust salmon]

343i COOKED with the weapon sounds in H4 and 5

[junior kestrel]

It's more like a bad 1897.

[naive surge]

Biggest thing against the bulldog is it reminded me of the striker from mw2(2009) and that was so much more fun to use

[robust salmon]

the SAW was a DEMON

[junior kestrel]

Slamfire. It does slam fire.

[junior kestrel]

Saw was good. Not a fan of the mag design tho.

[trim saddle]

i cant agree on this with the BR sounds.

[severe flame]

I love the saw so much
343's most perfect guns are by far the mangler and saw imo

[junior kestrel]

4 br sound stunky.

[junior kestrel]

Shame they'll never appear again. They're actually solid.

[trim saddle]

"chirrrp chirrrp chirrrp"

[fierce zephyr]

I really enjoyed the newer weapons they added in infinite I thought they were great and a did a great job with em

[abstract prawn]

So does the Plasma Pistol. I miss the "hummmmmm" glad it's coming back in the remake.

[junior kestrel]

More like shrip shrip shrip

[abstract prawn]

And then you get to the end of the mag and it's like SHRIP SHRiiiip? shiiiip?

[junior kestrel]

I want the literal off the shelf sound back. Maybe with some added sub sounds? But keep that original base.

Same for the sword. Plus add more colour.

[severe flame]

Im keeping my fingers crossed for them. No saw in infinite, especially since they brought back boss fights, was absurd

[junior kestrel]

I don't like near end mag sounds tbh.

Maybe do tracers or smt with the last 7 rounds. It's what the army does for soldiers using standard mag loads to warn em.

[junior kestrel]

Very silly. If no saw at least halo 2 gpmg as a normal weapon.

[jade gust]

You mean the overcharge sound effect? They brought back the classic version for Halo Infinite before the game launched

[junior kestrel]

I also want the old shot sound toom

The one from the sound libary.

[severe flame]

For sure yeah

[jade gust]

Eh, I don't mind the more recent sounds for the Plasma Pistol

[junior kestrel]

I also want the more interesting and involved weapon animations from ce.

Glad they brought the needle melee back. But they borked the reload sound so much. There's no depth.

Where's my cheuw sheut

[naive turret]

Afternoon peeps

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-day-bill-murray-phil-reporter-gif-17890215

[junior kestrel]

At least ad a shatter sound and some mechanical noise for the needles raising.

[ocean herald]

for future halos would be cool if the needler melee embedded the spikes and caused it's usual needle explosion. maybe make it 2 melee's so that it's not a 1 hit kill

[junior kestrel]

Also terrinle idea.

Needler wraith

And blamite grenades

[naive turret]

They had a Needler vehicle in HW1 iirc…uh the Vampire I think?

[junior kestrel]

Yes correct

[naive turret]

Granted that was more of a Hornet equivalent

[naive surge]

What if the entire needler gets stuck in them

[junior kestrel]

The vampire was closer to the vulture.

[severe flame]

Thats actually a really cool idea i like that a lot

[naive surge]

Iirc it was a dedicated aa aircraft

[naive turret]

Ah fair, been a hot minute

I remember them being a pain on the Elephant escort mission

[junior kestrel]

Loose the ammo in the mag tho.

Like that one animation by hyper

[severe flame]

Yeah for sure

[junior kestrel]

https://youtu.be/4_8XkDBB9tE?si=ihEZUZRfnCS_VWzR

[junior kestrel]

Build more wolverines

[naive turret]

But Hornets tho

[junior kestrel]

True

[naive surge]

Or marine blob, think the overall triangle was infantry>aircraft>vehicles>infantry

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-hornet-halo-vehiculo-hal-gif-26551184

[severe flame]

I wanna see the locust from wars 2 make it into the next mainline halo

[junior kestrel]

Wish halo infinite had the hornet.

[junior kestrel]

Yes. Mini boss as a smaller version of a scarab. But you can kill it normally. Or hijack it.

[naive surge]

Wish the banished had kept ANY of their unique vehicle roster into infinite

[severe flame]

Genuinely, they had so much stuff to work with so why did we see hardly any of it 😔

[junior kestrel]

They have less vehicles than halo 2 and 3 covenant.

Less vehicles than halo 5 covenant.

[junior kestrel]

Resources required

Local units

[abstract prawn]

It can still be a 1 hit kill. But they should make it as mechanically interesting as possible.

So it will instantly consume all of your loaded ammo. And it will only super combine if there is enough ammo left to cause it, or if the ammo in the gun plus the ammo already in the target from your shots equals enough to cause it.

[junior kestrel]

All units

[junior kestrel]

Like pairing with my assault sprint idea. Or a charge melee attack.

Would be rad regardless

Idea. Overheated plasma weapons do bonus melee damage.

[obsidian wyvern]

did u make this after seeing the video lol

[naive turret]

I think introducing variables like that into standard melee is a bad idea, tbh. Keep it consistent outside of known variables like the Hammer and Sword.

A Needler specific assassination would be cool, though. I’ve seen fan animations of it.

[naive surge]

Brutes would 1000% have the blades be heatsinks

[ocean herald]

if there was added logic, have it be either a full clip or nothing

[naive turret]

Nah it was there already surprisingly, which is weird cause I had never seen it before lol

[candid solar]

I still like how the BPR in Halo 5's top tier variant let you use the plasma 'lens' or whatever as a knuckleduster.

[abstract prawn]

What if Plasma Weapons didn't cause active camo to decloak? Like the way it works for Elites in Campaign.

[severe flame]

Well we already have variables in melee (bladed weapons in infinite, bayonets in 5)
Dont see why we cant have a couple of unique interactions for the needler or whatever else

[junior kestrel]

Oooooo.

Imagine if spiker bayonet got hot too

[obsidian wyvern]

idk if anyone else has the problem where youtube just doesnt play in the correct quality it shows

[junior kestrel]

I agree. I would enjoy that.

It'd also be cool if suppressed projectile weapons kept cloak also.

[naive turret]

Oh aye I say this as not being a fan of that.

Melee should be two tap at full or one tap without shields / from behind with some bleed through. Keep it consistent.

[naive surge]

Spiker is an underrated design imo. Duel helical mags feeding into duel barrels with duel bayonets that you can duel wield

[fallow iris]

Sloppy 24

[junior kestrel]

Bladed weapons already had some melee bonus. Even as early as h2.

[fallow iris]

Its.time to.du du duell

[junior kestrel]

Even with the bonus from the brute shot blade it's still min 2 slaps

On players.

Campaign brutes take more on heroic

[abstract prawn]

The Spiker is simultaneously cool as hell, and completely useless.