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winter flame
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does badger badger badger count as a meme

steel tinsel
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oh of course

winter flame
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first one i can remember

steel tinsel
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now that you mention it i do think badgerbadger was first for me instead

winter flame
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i dont understand how late 90s kids are Gen Z? We grew up with 2000s internet culture like all the millennials

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Gen Z aint know nothing

steel tinsel
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its a mixed bag, some zoomers are more in the know than others for me

candid solar
past heron
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does anyone have the halo ce 1749 tagset?

signal wedge
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my strategy in gaming is watching Youtube shorts while waiting for game to load

wary dove
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Most people play multiplayer now so like it doesn’t require much thinking

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But in single player you if there’s a boss you have to be careful and think of what to do

fickle drift
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dog why tfek do they look liks strees ballsss

candid solar
wary dove
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But like for the most popular games like fortnite or call of duty most people will just play for fun

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Even halo I play for fun without a plan

candid solar
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Also, I'd argue that strategic knowledge still helps you a lot in those games.

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Even if your 'plan' is second by second.

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A lot of my best plays were done on-the-fly but looked planned, and to some degree, were.

wary dove
normal owl
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Speaking of lack of strategy, bought these on a whim with no strategy of how I'm going to pull off the look.

hearty flame
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You have no choice but to dress up as a Louisiana bigshot lawyer from the 1920s

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White suit, bolo tie, thick stache, the whole 9 yards

signal wedge
frigid linden
normal owl
spiral glade
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Guys it worked, thank you for the guy who helped me

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No no, just download 20gb and u can open it and then you can choose what to download and not

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@winter flame thanks bruv

vapid siren
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gamers

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need some lore focused insights

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have half a mind to ping haruspis he'd enjoy this probably

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Trying to come up with a name for this ship i got in elite dangerous. been doing a semi-rp bit where i name ships in a manner that would make them plausibly real in halo canon

UNSC Size Matters, Big Pharma, Touchdown Pass, Horizon Line, Wonky Wallaby, etc etc.

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@candid solar wake up this is your wheelhouse

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so what do i do for a ship outfitted with missles, torpedoes, and is designed tot kill giagantic alien ships called Titans

candid solar
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Hi cool ship

vapid siren
candid solar
vapid siren
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now im thinking something like Titanomachy which is the name of the war of titans vs olympians

vapid siren
candid solar
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UNSC DAVID SEEKING GOLIATH

vapid siren
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i have a convention called "just make it seem like it would work in halo"

candid solar
vapid siren
vapid siren
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thats my angle

candid solar
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Frogs

vapid siren
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my rule is i make it reference an aspect of the ship and sound plausible in halo lore

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honeybees hive for example is my mining ship that sends out tons of drones to pick up materials so it looks like a swarm of bees

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big pharma is my evacuation/rescue ship

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rat race is my fuel rat ship

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mail whale is my cargo hauler

candid solar
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UNSC ship names aren't really my wheelhouse, but there is a rough correlation between ship class and name.

Except for Frigates. Those are weird as hell.

vapid siren
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youre overthinking this

candid solar
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I'm talking while typing a list.

hasty zinc
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what role is the ship you want to name

vapid siren
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4x size 3 missile racks, a nanite torpedo, and a beam laser

hasty zinc
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UNSC Iceberg

vapid siren
candid solar
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Anyways

UNSC David Seeking Goliath
UNSC Spinal tap
UNSC David's Sling
UNSC Loup-de-Guerre

vapid siren
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elaborate

hasty zinc
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titans/titanic/iceberg killed the titanic

vapid siren
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ok thats a goodun

candid solar
vapid siren
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oh

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im leaning a bit more greek mythos tho cause of the whole Titan dynamic, the fact each one is named after a god of thunder in the game, and also the Titan Cronus is also known as Saturn...

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so ya know

cedar turret
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that would be because it literally translates to wolf of war

vapid siren
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@low narwhal wake up babe we got a halo writing exercise

vapid siren
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screw it im pinging him ik he'd enjoy this

hasty zinc
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emoji makes that SS

vapid siren
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hold on

hasty zinc
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perfect lmao

vapid siren
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hold on

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to photoshop

candid solar
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Wow, there is not a lot for me to go off of here. Annoying.

vapid siren
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so seems backwards

candid solar
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I know.

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I was trying to word it like it was a better weapon than said Harpe.

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Zeus mostly just spammed lightning, apparently, so like... Zeus' Thunder is a dumb ship name.

vapid siren
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also @hasty zinc python mk2 is so damn good

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i put a bunch of my chieftain's parts into it and it goes faster, hits harder

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and SCO is so pog

candid solar
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UNSC Keraunos?

hasty zinc
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wait MK 2???!!

vapid siren
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my jumpaconda has equal jump range with SCO vs the old v1 fsd

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oh yeah we got a python mk2

candid solar
vapid siren
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and FSD can now boost in supercruise

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needs a special drive called SCO (supercruise overdrive)

hasty zinc
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...

vapid siren
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its super fun

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i can stream it in a vc for ya

hasty zinc
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yes please

candid solar
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Keraunos is the greek name for thunderbolt, apparently.

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Course it'd work better if your ship has energy weapons.

candid solar
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Ignored moment

candid solar
hearty flame
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Cowboy hats in Infinite when???

signal wedge
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UNSC Flatbread

vapid siren
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sidenote the python mk2 looks a LOT like a prowler

obsidian wyvern
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lol

thorny bough
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Good morning Krusty crewwwww

vapid siren
thorny bough
obsidian wyvern
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did Rita die or smthn

spiral glade
granite sky
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I'm surprised that gif hasn't been a theme for a nightmare yet

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I'm trying to be quiet and pretend to be asleep but then he hears me...

vapid siren
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@candid solar lowkey may honestly take Keraunos

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this is lowkey THE card that got me into magic when i pulled him

candid solar
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Nice

vapid siren
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I was starting to lean into something like zeus' bolt anyways so we basically arrived to the same conclusion

fickle drift
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Bombastic barbeque sauce.

frigid sierra
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High diamond ranked anyone

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I clap onyxs I just never full stack to get there and I'm tired of it

fervent trail
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Can anyone tell me which halo books are broken up into parts or sections?

fervent trail
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Like the first four books. They were broken up into sections

normal owl
fervent trail
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Section 0 of first strike was called reach

normal owl
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Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4, Chapter 5, Chapter 6, and so on and so forth.

obsidian wyvern
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most of them then

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there's a book guide one sec

normal owl
fervent trail
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Idk why but I like when books are broken up into sections with chapters in them because I read a lot in one day so I prefer to have a big gole to get to for example the end of a section

obsidian wyvern
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oh there it is

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same dude who remade new Mombasa in unreal engine, was really good

outer arch
hexed geyser
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imagine if there was a Boatish veichle called the beaver in infinite

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but there are barely any maps with water 😦

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also is there a game (Not reach or halo related) where you lose in the end

meager linden
faint mantle
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Avengers Infinity War: The Game

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||What? There used to be game releases related to movies all the time!||

quiet rapids
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Hey

meager linden
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Good night spartanssalute

obsidian wyvern
faint mantle
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I remember that one

winter flame
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Cortana is being removed completely from windows 11 😭

crude hornet
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Hi

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When is next update

faint mantle
obsidian wyvern
candid solar
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@vapid siren @smoky token Y'all win. Redownloaded Elite Dangerous.

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Maybe I can get it to work right this time.

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I remembered why I uninstalled it, I could never connect to the online with it on my old computer.

smoky token
vapid siren
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weakling

smoky token
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how rich are you trench?

candid solar
vapid siren
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play it full bore

candid solar
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Rather be a coward than weak

smoky token
vapid siren
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your pc was what was weak

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you buffoon

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you fool

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you cretin

candid solar
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The issue was the network.

vapid siren
candid solar
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It played the game on near full graphics lmao

vapid siren
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are you on the game rn

smoky token
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she is

elfin glacier
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@smoky token @vapid siren @candid solar ur nerds

smoky token
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ur a nerd

vapid siren
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alright

smoky token
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i’m at a wedding party but i’ll be home to make some money with both of you in a couple hours

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i’m at the spire site in HIP 19870 right now

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gonna be spending today, tomorrow, and monday up till about 6 my time (cause that’s when the patch is) farming oreos and making enough money that i’ll hopefully never have to worry about it again

elfin glacier
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im cool

candid solar
smoky token
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what’s ur in game net worth?

vapid siren
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-5m

smoky token
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damn

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kinda sad

candid solar
hexed geyser
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i hope i can replace the blue Xbox controller one day

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cus it has drift

elfin glacier
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i think it was cuz the performance was bad because i forgot to lower the resolution

smoky token
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@candid solar if you don’t have the Odyssey DLC you should get it

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it should be on sale for just $4 or something like that right now

hexed geyser
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i had the lonleyest match of infinite ever

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Should i get Crash team Racing on xbox cuz i have on Switch & the Xbox Ver looks better

quaint canyon
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i love how the halo 3 - reach didn't end up using nasty brown filters like other 2008 - 2012 games

obsidian wyvern
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reach used one colour and it was grey

elfin glacier
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does that to you

queen remnant
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No......................

graceful inlet
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Good Night Spartans! salute
(And Our Marines. craighearts 🫂)HypeChief

bronze breach
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Man. I can hear the music festival from miles miles away. :Z

smoky token
fickle drift
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what is skill rating

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in halo infinite

obsidian wyvern
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bungpt sounds so stupid

fickle drift
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i just finished a quick play match adn said we had a skill rating of 1330 is that good?

obsidian wyvern
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it adds up your team's skill rating and shows that at the end for you to compare with the other team, see if it was a fair match in that sense

faint mantle
obsidian wyvern
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bleh

faint mantle
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bleh

obsidian wyvern
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your profile effect is so cool 😮

faint mantle
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It does fit nicely

distant prawn
austere venture
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Is anyone else having the problem where when you try and open EAS Setup it closes instantly?

hexed geyser
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i happy Bungie still doesnt make halo's

austere venture
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please someone help

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Wait,I found the weirdest fix for anyone else having this problem

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you have to install and open VRChat then relaunch halo and it works 💀 idk how

hexed geyser
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if Endermen & Halo 1 Elites tried to talk to each other would they know what they are saying?

hexed geyser
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cuz they Speak sdrawkcaB

abstract heart
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The CGB filter tab has to be the most underdeveloped thing in the game.
that whole tab was unusable for like the first year of the game and even now it does nothing to help people find custom games

azure canopy
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honestly i could sleep to some songs in the halo soundtrack

azure canopy
vagrant fossil
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If I wanted to browse some offical Halo art, where's the best place?

austere venture
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infinite prob

pliant hatch
fickle drift
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Yo anyone want to play some master chief collection or infinite with me

hexed geyser
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will halo hog be a thing one day (Along with grunt bday party

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im joking lol

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not every seires can have a Racing & Party spinoff

cedar turret
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hush or they might bring rocket race back.

thorny glen
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😉

thorny glen
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stickers automatically reply blame discord

cedar turret
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you been around long enough to know better

lapis ivy
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I'd like to create a game mode in infinite forge with ai destroying everything called ransack lol

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Similar to generator defense

thorny glen
lapis ivy
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You mean create it?

thorny glen
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idk if i know what you mean by ai destroying everything

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is it possible in infinite's forge to have AI target specific things that aren't spartans or each other?

lapis ivy
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Well destroying food stands that are destructible

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Dynamic objects

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Yeah there is by script

cedar turret
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that's true in real life too. You can just run down 42nd street destroying hot dog carts and kebab wagons. People get mad though.

thorny glen
thorny glen
lapis ivy
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An experimental thing as well with the node graph in forge you have to experiment with I'm still getting the hang of it

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It's difficult too if you ask me

abstract heart
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Inf

abstract heart
lapis ivy
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And sandbox made it easy?

thorny glen
lapis ivy
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You never used the script node graph in forge? I'm pretty sure that's what they used to make survive the undead game mode

thorny glen
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is it more complicated then before?
sure, i agree, it's way to complex of a process in infinite especially with the "instant spawn mode" that can confuse new players sometimes without rendering things 1st
i do prefer how halo 5 did it instead tbh

even then i mean it's not that difficult to get the hang of

thorny glen
lapis ivy
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It is difficult in infinite cause it's more advanced than halo 5

thorny glen
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like how things are organized in infinite's forge
just...why? it's organized so poorly

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or the node graph, it's so weird to use & navigate

lapis ivy
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And figuring out how things go in it is what I find difficult

thorny glen
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yea there's no real experimenting
it's more so "you have to do something in this exact way or nothing happens"

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or it crashes the game

worldly badger
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why is the ping fluctuating from 50 to 80 mid game with a 200ping shot reg lmao

thorny glen
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but if all you're doing is just trying to spawn the weapon sandbox in that's pretty easy to do tbh

worldly badger
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no wired fiber normal servers are 18-20 ping

thorny glen
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probably connecting to servers from across the world 🤷‍♂️

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i've had it happen a few times

worldly badger
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its set to local search just weird servers

lapis ivy
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Things that ai destroy is market food stands in the destructible accents in forge crates too it's fun and creative

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Gotta get to work on it and see what I can create

worldly badger
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I got to say 20ping servers feel like 50 ping on any normal game and 50-80ping feels like 200ping delay

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I think it has to do with the ping of other players in the lobby

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some people are jittering all over the place

signal wedge
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I hate kamikaze grunts

lapis ivy
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Grenade hug grunt?

signal wedge
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holding two plasma nades

abstract heart
# thorny glen i 100% do not understand what you mean by this

I think I put it the best way I can, I just remember forge in reach being very accessible.

You could load up forge world and just with a couple items placed you could have fun for hours.

In halo Infinites forge there are more steps, it is more advance which I love because it let's people create greater things but to most of the player base, or at least the more casual players it is far too complex to go into for some casual fun.
Great tool but no longer a game mode in itself

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IMO***

thorny glen
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it's always been an editor tool to create maps

abstract heart
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yes, but people often loaded it up to just spawn some weapons and shoot eachother on couch splitscreen.

That is way less likely with the current system, I have nothing against forge I just wish we had a more casual and approachable forge jsut to goof around with the sandbox. not to build matchmaking level maps.
YK?

thorny glen
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not sure why ur having a problem with it

abstract heart
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dude I literally just said I dont have a problem with it, just my opinion/idea

thorny glen
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practically the easiest thing to do in forge right now

abstract heart
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I agree,I got a handle on infinites forge pretty fast and spent many hours in it.

But I believe a large percentage of the player base does not interact with forge because of its complexity.

thorny glen
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you don't need to script or build things for 30+ minutes to have fun in it either

glass tangle
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was aim magnetism always a thing for pc mnk in halo infinite? i turned it off now because i didnt realize it was even on

worldly badger
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recently they added a toggle option to turn it off

abstract heart
# thorny glen i don't think your problem is forge being more complicated if what just said is ...

One of the main things that interrupts the fun/sandbox aspects of forge IMO is the "test mode" system.

You entirely loose being able to play the game WHILE having a friend spawn stuff or fling you around with a large object, or crush you with a vehicle.
To play the game within forge you gotta F6 and start from spawn. That's one of the big things for me that stops me and my friends from going into forge for fun

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It not a flawed system and I dont have a problem with it, I just see that its a much sharper tool that is harder to play with

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and people like playing games

abstract heart
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It was a glorious day when they added that

meager linden
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Good morning spartanssalute

thorny glen
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you still can't disable bullet magnetism pretty sure but you can disable aim assist now, which is how it was at launch originally

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it's the thing that makes your reticle go more slowly when touching enemy players

worldly badger
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the aim assist on mouse is like reticle friction your sensitvity slows down near spartans

thorny glen
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yes that's what aim assist is

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works like that in every single game that has it

worldly badger
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on controller its more of a rotational aim assist that pulls your reticle

thorny glen
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no?

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it's the same on both

worldly badger
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I don't feel like its the same if you have slight drift on controller and someone is strafing it moves on its own

thorny glen
worldly badger
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possibly

thorny glen
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not possibly, it literally does

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that's what aim assist is i just told u this

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your reticle moves slowly when it touches enemy players, it also tries to get pulled towards them or tries to follow them

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works like that on both mouse and controller, zero difference

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bullet magnetism on the other hand is when even if your reticle isn't on the player, your bullets will still hit the player
some people describe this as the bullets curving or moving to the player but what's actually happening is the bullets are just shooting in the exact direction of said player
think of it like a direct line

this is mostly noticable with the Warthog, both mouse & controller have always had this in all halo games more or less.

abstract heart
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Bro is passionate about other peoples thoughts

worldly badger
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alright guys I got a great idea, lets take a 4 players who are fully squaded up with coms and put them against 4 complete strangers playing their first game together

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and lets do that to the solo players multiple times when they play ranked

abstract heart
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I miss inf ranked, stopped playing because the game would be half empty by half time. And from what I’ve heard it’s still pretty rough

worldly badger
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and also lets have it so they can have 1 guy smurfing in the stack of 4 to bring down their lobby rank

abstract heart
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Seems they never were able to land a good MMR system

worldly badger
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so now you have 1 smurf in the 4stack bringing down their squad rank to play 4 complete strangers in their first game together

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perfect combination

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also, if you lose to that stack of 4 with the 1 smurf on a new acc you lose even more csr than you gained when you barely won a game against another 4 stack

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idk man I like the gameplay but this matchmaking is just frustrating going to end it here

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not even about the csr gains or losses its just a plain unfun experience

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people actually formed the perfect combination to abuse the system

haughty wigeon
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hihi

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halo 3 and odst are the best games made in the halo franchise

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okay bye

worldly badger
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dropped some facts and left I respect it

haughty wigeon
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teehee

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how is everyoneeee?

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i’m just getting back into playing halo now so i thought i’d join a server (it’s been a while tho - fully haven’t played anything passed halo 4)

worldly badger
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doing alright

civic walrus
haughty wigeon
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valid!!!

candid solar
civic walrus
thorny glen
abstract heart
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It was cool

haughty wigeon
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i remember watching through it and kind of seeing a shift in themes

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which is fair bc the devs had changed after 3

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but it was still like very diff from bungie

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still cool tho!! i liked it a lot

glass tangle
smoky token
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chat help

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the inside of my throat itches

bold sparrow
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Check for a tonsil stone.

faint mantle
smoky token
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i don’t know

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but also i haven’t slept in like

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18 hours

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so

faint mantle
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Diagnosis: Low defenses caused by lack of sleep allowed a common cold virus to replicate inside your body giving you the first symptoms

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That'll be $249.99, cash or card? 😊

buoyant smelt
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LOL

candid solar
smoky token
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like what tank operators get?

candid solar
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Especially if they drank the funni engine juice

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(The jet fuel is rotting the speech center of their brain)

smoky token
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isn’t most jet fuel basically pure ethanol

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or is that rocket fuel i’m thinking of

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i think it’s rocket fuel

candid solar
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JP-8, one of the standard jet fuels of the US Military, is known to destroy the nerve cells assosciated with processing and understanding speech.

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So yeah you're thinking rocket fuel

fresh turtle
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Hello everyone! salute

candid solar
fickle drift
fresh turtle
candid solar
buoyant smelt
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IM GOING TO LEVE THE SEVER

worldly badger
rare cedar
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Just hanging out, about to go grocery shopping

bold sparrow
# candid solar

Where are its legs
Where have this mans legs gone.
TRENCH. What did you do with his LEGS

candid solar
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They are under the squishy friend.

fresh turtle
rare cedar
fresh turtle
rare cedar
candid solar
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The shareholders are manipulating the game to give me only the very worst in Fragmentation weapon spawns

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@elfin glacier @normal owl

fresh turtle
fickle drift
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@thorny glen wtf are you playing lol

prisma jasper
vague mango
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anyone have ideas for the campaign?

fickle drift
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We’re going back in time

vague mango
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has anyone watched red vs blue?

prisma jasper
vague mango
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its a show thats has the voice actors playing the characters]

prisma jasper
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oh

vague mango
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it was fun while it lasted

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they had fun stuff in their episodes

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they been doing it since CE

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man the campaign of infinite gets lonley

prisma jasper
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yeah ppl only play multiplayer :(

vague mango
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i can tell

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since the campaign is kinda mid

thorny glen
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it's just ms edge tho lol

fickle drift
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Lol

thorny glen
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you can change it to be anything

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changed it back to ms edge for the time being (that's all it is anyways)

rare cedar
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Rate my Memorial Day weekend dinner

thorny glen
thorny glen
rare cedar
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they don't have the mini can at my store 😦

thorny glen
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minicans exist?

rare cedar
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yaya

thorny glen
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I don't honestly think I've seen those before

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just feed the extra beans to ur local ant hill population uny

normal owl
nova crest
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Guys I'm new to hallo I hope I'm not too late and i hope that this amazing franchise is still alive

rare cedar
normal owl
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What's that award/basket shot glass?

rare cedar
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which one?

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The charizard?

normal owl
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Far right, looks like it's on a trophy base?

rare cedar
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ooh it's just a little statue of the Coliseum from Roma, Italia

normal owl
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Oh sweet! And also I love that it's there hanging out with the shot glasses. "What? I'm a regular down-to-earth item that knows how to have a good time just like any other."

rare cedar
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haha that's a good way to put it 😄

nova crest
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"Our duty as soldiers is to protect humanity at all costs" 🔥 🔥🔥

signal wedge
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when can the UNSC reverse engineer forerunner guns already

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im tired of starting with a horrible MA5

granite sky
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how about MA5K? always liked how it looks. 5k model could be used and have a forerunner tech edge to it. a way of "reintroducing an old model"!

carmine fractal
rare cedar
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it's been sitting in my kitchen for a while now, so I decided it was a good time to pop it open

quiet warren
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we need a operation based on ODST

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.

signal wedge
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Alpha 9

nova crest
frigid linden
nova crest
frigid linden
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Killing humans

obsidian wyvern
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😐

signal wedge
quiet warren
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anybody knows what halo book i should start with

signal wedge
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the book I started with was Divine Wind

cedar turret
fickle drift
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Humorous honey mustard.

fickle drift
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Hey guys, the servers in the "Games" section are disappearing.

obsidian wyvern
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the channels?

fickle drift
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Yep.

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And it's all gone.

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Scratch that, they're back.

signal wedge
candid solar
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Actually, if anyone would know that statement is blatantly false, it's the child assassin/soldier.

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Considering it not being the case is LITERALLY why he exists as he does.

obsidian wyvern
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they're new to halo, they're not gonna understand anything you just said

fickle drift
#

Just curious, to our knowledge, what studios does 343 have working alongside them with Infinite at this time?

obsidian wyvern
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sperasoft and certain affinity

fickle drift
#

And what do we know either studio has done for Infinite at this point? (maps, modes, what have they done up to this point)

obsidian wyvern
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sperasoft has made a ton of the Dev made maps

CA was working on a mode for infinite that's never been in halo, but we haven't heard from them in over a year

fickle drift
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I see.

obsidian wyvern
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we can't

fickle drift
#

Well, if this thing is their biggest project, then I guess it would make sense we haven't heard anything recently.

obsidian wyvern
#

speculations that it's been scrapped but we didn't get anything from them officially

candid solar
fickle drift
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I kinda feel like they would've said something along the lines of "it's not happening anymore" if that's the case. I believe that it's important to be transparent about these kinds of things, manage expectations, make sure nobody is waiting for something that isn't going to happen.

Unless 343(or Microsoft/Xbox if they're the ones behind it, which considering legal mumbo jumbo, there's no telling) had a contract that's just bonkers. (not saying that's the case, it's just a theory)

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Just my opinion though.

obsidian wyvern
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transparency hasn't been huge in infinites life lol

fickle drift
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Well, it's definitely not too late for 343 to improve on transparency.

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Honestly, they could just look at Digital Extremes and such, I'd say that's a good reference point.

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(and CDPR and Hello Games)

elfin glacier
elfin glacier
fickle drift
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The biggest problem with Infinite right now(in my opinion) is not enough communication, people are expecting things like new weapons, new vehicles, better CUs(or Operations) that (in their eyes) makes the ditching of seasons worth it.

And there's the fact that some people(whether we like it or not) sometimes just look at what a guy on YouTube/Twitter says and rolls with it.

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The bandwagon effect, as they say.

elfin glacier
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343 isn't responsible if people set their own expectations based on nothing

fickle drift
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Also very much true.

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But I do personally think that answering questions is important for Infinite more than ever before, since ever since the beginning of this year, the public reception hasn't necessarily been the greatest compared to the praise that Season 5 had.

worldly badger
fickle drift
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In fact, let me try something.

elfin glacier
worldly badger
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such a cringe reply on a public discussion discord

rare cedar
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it's a holiday weekend

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let them rest

worldly badger
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no one asked haaa gotteem

elfin glacier
fickle drift
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Let me ask this: Do we think the match composer is really where it's "over"?

worldly badger
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Siege is the biggest 343 stan I see

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nice to see them in the wild

elfin glacier
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has it been officially announced?

fickle drift
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Employee wellbeing is important, my good sir. There's a difference between between a criticism and just going on a insult rampage.

elfin glacier
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i should make a flowchart honestly

worldly badger
#

yes sketch has said match composer is in the works

elfin glacier
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i know

worldly badger
#

you are implying match composer is the last major update to the game

elfin glacier
#

who

candid solar
#

Personally I think the last major update to the game should be removing playable elites

fickle drift
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But they're not even in the game.

worldly badger
#

the friendly doctor

candid solar
#

Exactly

fickle drift
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How do you remove something that isn't there?

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That's a scientific impossibility.

candid solar
#

Exactly. It already happened. They went back in time.

worldly badger
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The last major update should be removing assassinations

candid solar
#

343i harnessed the power of time travel to make Halo Infinite lack playable elites.

fickle drift
#

This is not Doctor Who.

candid solar
#

I do think a remade and heavily rebalanced version of Invasion with preset Reach-style loadouts likely actually would drive a good amount of engagement for the game, tbh.

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Kinda like that one Gears of War Judgement game mode I forgot the name of.

fickle drift
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I think so.

candid solar
#

Invasion 2.0 because COD's squatting on the Warzone name now.

worldly badger
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I'm a simple man my expectations are low I just want the game to feel consistent server to server helmet

candid solar
#

Still mad CoD's also squatting on the Gunsmith name despite Ghost Recon being the one that used it in the same context first-then swiftly somehow made a way worse weapon customization system because I'm not allowed to have nice things.

fickle drift
#

You know, I never really got why people though a Halo battle royale would be it's own game, I don't know about you: But I feel like they could just make battle royale a mode in Infinite.

candid solar
#

I really don't care for the concept of Halo BRs because FFA has never really been Halo's strong suit.

fickle drift
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If anything, a Battlefront style game with Spartans and Covenant species being playable would be something necessitating a whole game.

worldly badger
#

only Halo project I am interested in is whatever Certain Affinity is working on I have some faith in what they can do as a studio

fickle drift
#

But a battle royale? Doesn't seem that much to require the status of a whole different game.

candid solar
#

Also, it had a pseudo-BR. It was not popular.

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It also has the mechanics for a fully functional BR.

fickle drift
#

Yeah, the forge made one?

candid solar
#

Honestly, it baffles me that some things were stepped back on that were perfectly possible in-engine. I get scrapping custom loadouts even if I strongly disagreed with the move to do so, but scrapping preset loadouts just baffles the hell out of me.

worldly badger
#

We have a community made cod zombies mode

candid solar
fickle drift
candid solar
worldly badger
#

in halo 2024

hearty flame
candid solar
hearty flame
#

Yet another who has no idea what an arena shooter is

candid solar
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Oh, no, I've always been more of an Unreal Tournament fan than Halo fan.

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I'm very aware of what an Arena shooter is. I'm saying I don't get why the functionality was removed utterly, because it stifles creativity in custom games.

fickle drift
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As I said before, I feel like they could've had a "loadout" mode. That way people could choose whether or not to go with the classic Halo gameplay style, OR go for the loadout style.

candid solar
#

There was a lot of uses for it, as Reach proved.

candid solar
#

I'm sure Recharge is going to say something stupid that doesn't actually disprove my point.

hearty flame
candid solar
#

yeah, I was right.

hearty flame
candid solar
#

I mean, you claimed I didn't know what Arena shooters were, just matching energies.

fickle drift
#

But yeah, I feel like leaving Infinite in it's (effectively) current state would kinda just be some wasted potential.

worldly badger
#

Wel.....Happy Sunday Everyone!

obsidian wyvern
#

thinking about it, stckr hasn't been here for ages

candid solar
#

Point is, I don't see why they got rid of a useful custom games setting.

hearty flame
#

Claiming someone doesn't know what arena shooters are because they suggested something in an arena shooter that would further it from being an arena shooter is vastly different than saying I'm just gonna say something stupid

worldly badger
candid solar
hearty flame
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You're not worth talking to

candid solar
#

Neither are you, but yet.

fickle drift
#

Listen, all I want to see... new weapons, maybe vehicles, assassinations...

Playable elites(though that's the hot take).

#

Currently, most people want the new weapons and vehicles, which is extremely valid.

candid solar
#

Anyways, Invasion was a pretty consistent and 'alive' mode in Reach for a very long time. And a lot of that was because it offered leeway in how you could engage off spawn.

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It's one of the few modes in Reach I'd say were actually good.

worldly badger
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I just want rank maps that are not old halo map remakes for maps I have already played hundreds of times and now have to play again in Infinite

candid solar
#

It was also diet BTB one-way-pushes.

obsidian wyvern
fickle drift
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I kinda just feel like some people just don't like elites because the idea wasn't expanded upon much. I just feel like there was definitely a way to "make it work".

candid solar
#

I don't like elites because the people who are fans of them won't shut the hell up about it.

fickle drift
#

Fair.

candid solar
#

And try to shoehorn it into every damn conversation about Halo for the past decade despite being told, plenty of times, why it's not a thing.

fickle drift
#

It's just, the only other things I want out of Infinite has already been talked about, the weapons, the vehicles, even the assassinations.

livid oyster
#

When are they gonna let us gamble on hcs

candid solar
#

Honestly, I find myself wondering why assassinations of all things got cut. If it's because people in ranked and such complained, I'm gonna be mad.

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Because it'd once again prove that ranked players are the doom of this franchise.

fickle drift
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Well, that and the fact they could make bank of the shop assassinations(having wacky ones).

worldly badger
candid solar
obsidian wyvern
#

2

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ones a remake, ones original. we get to see them both this weekend iirc

fickle drift
#

The problem is: Since they didn't have it at launch, they arguably made it so that they're going to have to spend more time actually ADDING it, if they even are.

candid solar
#

🥱

worldly badger
#

for sure a Halo 5 Coliseum remake coming up

obsidian wyvern
#

I can't remember the name of it in halo 2 and 5, but I'm pretty sure it's just asylum from reach

candid solar
#

... Ugggggh. Backwash? Really?

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We needed another damn Midship reformat?

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Come on, if you're gonna add a map from Reach at least add The Cage.

worldly badger
#

you know that H5 game we played for years? Ya we are bringing back all those maps in Infinite instead of making NEW maps designed for Infinites gameplay helmet

fickle drift
#

Halo 5 had the option to turn it off, anyone who knows this and talks about Infinite having assassinations will bring this up and any given opportunity. And that's kinda where my argument comes from, they should've had assassinations at launch, with the option to turn them off, that way they could've satiated the people who liked assassinations, while also letting the more competitive players play the way they want.

candid solar
#

Infinite's closer to 5 than it is to freaking Reach, at least.

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So I guess, begrudgingly, I get that.

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But like, if you're going to add Reach maps, at least add the ones that mostly just appeared in Reach.

worldly badger
#

but if you rewatch H5 Plaza gameplay then watch Solitude gameplay you can tell it was designed for H5s movement and is just strange

candid solar
#

Like, I could live with a Powerhouse remake, even if I'd be annoyed at it being a Reach map, because at least it's not the freaking Pit again.

fickle drift
#

That's Infinite's biggest problem, most issues they experienced, they hate they experienced, arguably even the mass firing, was because Infinite was undercooked at launch. It was missing a bunch of things, and people were not happy about that.

And they're stuck at playing catchup.

obsidian wyvern
#

this one

candid solar
#

Ah, right, Sactuary, not Backwash.

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... I'm going to go look at Backwash to figure out why I thought of Backwash.

fickle drift
#

Infinite got a great sandbox, and I do really hope they add more to it instead of just dropping it.

worldly badger
livid oyster
#

I think they jumped the gun so soon because of how bad bf2042 was at launch

candid solar
#

I'll tell you that it doesn't give me any confidence in Pierre.

livid oyster
#

And granted, most people I know loved infinite at launch

fickle drift
#

To be fair, Pierre Hintze arguably had a better track record and public reception than the previous management. You know, in the public's eyes.

candid solar
#

The public is also comprised of idiots.

fickle drift
#

You say "Bonnie Ross", and people start fuming.

worldly badger
livid oyster
#

Bring back Frankie

fickle drift
#

Meh.

worldly badger
#

and he had a good track record with MCC

fickle drift
#

To be honest, I don't have anything against the previous leaders, they ain't do anything personal to me. But I also don't necessarily like them either, it's a gray area.

livid oyster
#

Idrc, I just thought Frankie had his funny moments

candid solar
#

They were nicer than I would be when dealing with the utterly contemptable fanbase that is Halo.

fickle drift
#

I don't doubt that Bonnie and Frankie were legitamately nice people.

worldly badger
candid solar
#

"Won't anyone think of the Gamer's childhood!"

fickle drift
#

It's just that they might've tried doing "too much" with a beloved franchise, tried to change things.

worldly badger
#

bro you are cringe

candid solar
#

I mean, I'm not the one claiming my childhood somehow retroactively got ruined, lmao

worldly badger
#

you have the same prepared lines

thorny glen
fickle drift
#

Playable elites are kinda like a summary of that(though I want them back too), it's something that they saw as not too fitting of their vision of Halo, and the community never forgot about that and held it against them.

livid oyster
#

That's the thing with a lot of games. Most are moving on to the next generation of kids. We had our fun, now it's their time to get a game that they'll remember

worldly badger
#

Most people still playing Halo is because we played Halo for awhile now

livid oyster
#

Kids today wouldn't like ce-3

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Most

candid solar
#

Some do some don't. Really depends. I don't have kids so I'm not confident making that call.

worldly badger
#

90% of the people who use coms in my ranked games are 25+ based on their voice

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there is not a cod or fortnite demographic playing halo

thorny glen
rare cedar
livid oyster
#

As far as I've seen

signal wedge
#

it's weird when you promise live service and 10 years of stuff only to not do any of that

candid solar
#

But I still play them, so.

worldly badger
#

The quote mentioned alot is in a recent 343 stream Sketch said they are shifting their attention to other halo projects where people are hinting Infinite is near end of its update cycle

fickle drift
#

That content complete statement was before launch. There is a somewhat sizable chance they took that statement right back(internally) when you look at how the launch was.

candid solar
livid oyster
signal wedge
livid oyster
#

But I did say most, not all

fickle drift
#

And there's the fact that "content complete" might've had the same meaning as "launch ready". How do you do a live service if the game is already content complete?

worldly badger
#

launch ready is pretty funny only took 3 years of updates helmet

candid solar
#

IDK.

thorny glen
fickle drift
#

And there's the fact that new weapons, maps, modes, and such had been added after the statement. So that statement didn't really stick. I think it might've just been weird wording on their part.

worldly badger
#

its like no mans sky is an indie studio and made their game launch ready gj 343 you did it too

cloud onyx
#

my first halo was halo 3

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for me it is the best

thorny glen
fickle drift
#

Someone's going to have to fact check that.

livid oyster
worldly badger
#

Hows the steam charts looking this month? -9.25% player drop off oh no

obsidian wyvern
livid oyster
#

Halo 3 I remember fondly because everyone in school had it

signal wedge
#

Nah 343 wanted to release Infinite early to destroy Splitgate

thorny glen
fickle drift
#

But I will say this: If no new game is revealed for Halo at this year's showcase, then Infinite still has some juice left in it.

signal wedge
#

this year is too early

worldly badger
#

if Halo is not mentioned in the xbox showcase I think we can call it

fickle drift
#

Eh, that was more "seasons are gone, it's probably over" talk going on. It was more interpretation than anything.

signal wedge
#

no campaign DLCs

#

like where is everyone else?

worldly badger
#

Cod is getting its own separate showcase after the main Xbox event

signal wedge
#

continue the story 343 wadahel

fickle drift
#

And to be honest: They should just come out and say that "this isn't coming" if they really are done with it.

signal wedge
#

also Spartans can get trapped in their own armor if mulfunctions 💀

fickle drift
#

FNAF reference?

worldly badger
#

The last time Xbox had a showcase I think season 5 or 4 of Infinite was dropping that week and they didnt even show a 30 second trailer or anything

signal wedge
#

do you guys think covid had anything to do with it

fickle drift
#

Probably.

signal wedge
#

probably had layoffs and stuff

fickle drift
#

All of the above.

worldly badger
#

Dr. Man I trust in his covid analysis

livid oyster
#

2020 and 2021 was an interesting time. Spent most days drunk

fickle drift
#

Listen, if the Cyberpunk dev team had to deal with the stuff, then Halo probably did too.

signal wedge
#

but Cyberpunk is good now

fickle drift
#

Exactly.

bronze breach
#

So is Halo

worldly badger
#

then cyberpunk fixed their game and released a banger expansion

thorny glen
signal wedge
#

all we got storywise is Ilsa Zane

candid solar
signal wedge
#

and then they wrote a book around the audio logs in game

fickle drift
#

For all we know, ske7ch's statement about "we have nothing in the works" for campaign DLC could've been changed this year.

candid solar
#

I really hope it did.

fickle drift
#

I'm gonna say it: I don't think the rest of Infinite's story is fitting for a whole other game.

signal wedge
#

if they don't wanna show Infinity's status or the commander or the captain atleast have Horvath or Kova show up in game

fickle drift
#

Infinite's story is one that I think kinda necessitates DLC.

last fractal
#

no new real content till halo 7

fickle drift
#

Only time will tell.

bronze breach
#

Not abandoned, phasing down I believe

last fractal
#

Phasing into abandonment like halo 5

worldly badger
#

They are doing monthly shop updates thats a big phasing down

signal wedge
#

watch them bring Infinity back to life in Halo 7 💀

last fractal
#

It’s crazy that the MCC is still the best halo content around

livid oyster
signal wedge
last fractal
livid oyster
#

Thank god the liquor store stayed open

worldly badger
bronze breach
#

With me in charge I would double the shop prices!

last fractal
fickle drift
#

Just give me elites and I'll be satisfied.

signal wedge
last fractal
worldly badger
last fractal
#

a halo game where you have to pay for every single color !!!

fickle drift
#

It's been slightly over two years.

reef wasp
last fractal
signal wedge
#

all you do in campaign rn is just go around freeing marines right

last fractal
livid oyster
fickle drift
#

Let me see if this works.

last fractal
#

Dudes I got so bored within an hour in the campaign

bronze breach
#

Those marines are potential 117s. smirkle

last fractal
worldly badger
last fractal
#

I genuinely couldn’t get into infinite

livid oyster
worldly badger
#

open world concept had a lot of potential if every area didnt look the exact same

signal wedge
bronze breach
#

Probably used the same rock for the entire campaign

last fractal
#

Open world concept is cool, unless you make the entire open world look the same boring shade of green

candid solar
candid solar
#

I weighed 140 at the start of COVID and 150 by the end at 69 inches tall. The issue was that it, combined with back to back deployments, crippled my social life.

winter flame
fickle drift
#

What would you guys think about playable elites coming back?

indigo lotus
#

The open world concept is good. Hope they improve it next game.

worldly badger
#

I wonder why you seem like a fun person to be around

rare cedar
#

I giggle inside at the definition of AF "deployments"

signal wedge
livid oyster
#

Long stays at the Hilton

bronze breach
#

I would say we would get elite inspired spartan armor but not elite core in itself

candid solar
elfin glacier
fickle drift
#

Nah, they gotta make a return tbh.

elfin glacier
#

sure, once everything else is done

signal wedge
#

if it fits the story line, how you gfonna skip the zeta halo storyline to whatever the SoS is doing rn

fickle drift
#

Oh definitely.

bronze breach
#

Time skip

fickle drift
#

Well, I kinda feel like the story doesn't necessarily mean elites are just not an option. Reach didn't have any "good" elites, yet they were still an option.

rare cedar
signal wedge
candid solar
#

Much as I get it was a joke, the context I'm saying that in is actually pretty damn raw to me.

fickle drift
#

I wanna know what the Ranger armor would look like with Infinite's art style.

candid solar
#

More greebly.

fickle drift
#

I don't know if that's even a word.

elfin glacier
#

343 should perform necromancy on Ensemble Studios tbh

#

resurrect Titan

#

obliterate the lore

winter flame
#

perform what now

fickle drift
#

You know, some people want t h i c c Spartans back.

#

What's the consensus on that one?

candid solar
#

SHUT UP

winter flame
#

^

elfin glacier
elfin glacier
signal wedge
bronze breach
#

I will obliterate the lore.

Each halo game is set on it's own timeline. There are no sequels. smirkle

worldly badger
#

Can we discuss how we went from a dumpy on Halo 5 spartans to pancakes in Infinite

winter flame
#

no

fickle drift
#

Yes, please start this discussion. I want to see the metaphorical wildfire.

jade walrus
bronze breach
elfin glacier
#

spartans without helmet has precedent

#

this will be halo in 2012

worldly badger
#

can we discuss how the only physical change we can do on spartans are 3 body types that barely change the size of the waist but no dumpy sliding bar

elfin glacier
bronze breach
#

Next halo game brings pablo chief into main canon. smirkle

elfin glacier
#

this vaguely reminds me of Freelancer

worldly badger
fickle drift
#

"Hey guys."

worldly badger
#

having a gf, never touched a women btw

elfin glacier
#

jokes are supposed to be funny

candid solar
worldly badger
#

the boys are tag teaming most action they got all week

elfin glacier
#

anyways

elfin glacier
#

this is actually a cool grav hammer design

worldly badger
#

H4 Cortana is top 5

winter flame
#

🤦‍♀️

candid solar
#

If you want to talk about crap like that take it to DMs.

worldly badger
#

chat was getting dry

fickle drift
#

That's what she said.

worldly badger
#

doctor can confirm

elfin glacier
#

jfc @smoky token @vapid siren kill them

worldly badger
#

siege is sending his shooters

fickle drift
#

Why barbeque sauce is the best condiment?

worldly badger
#

if you get rid of us we only have 3 active chatters left

elfin glacier
#

good

worldly badger
#

so petty lmao

elfin glacier
#

quality over quantity

rare cedar
#

Please use the modmail feature if there's an issue

candid solar
#

Sacrifice I'm willing to make. When the damn furry is telling you to go elsewhere with your constant talk of lewd crap, you're doing it too much.

worldly badger
#

if you can't see the obvious trolling about lewd comments idk what to tell you

candid solar
#

Oh, no, it's obvious. It's just annoying as hell.

elfin glacier
#

ah yes you're just pretending to be immature and stupid, great defense

worldly badger
#

you do it naturally

livid oyster
candid solar
livid oyster
#

I just know how much you love that topic

elfin glacier
#

anyway@candid solar do you know energy bayonets have precedent

signal wedge
elfin glacier
fickle drift
#

McDonald's is better than Burger King.

candid solar
#

Yes I did know

signal wedge
#

why is Spartan Laser not in Infinite

elfin glacier
#

apparently these are plasma rifles

elfin glacier
signal wedge
smoky token
elfin glacier
#

this will be halo armor in 2012

worldly badger
signal wedge
elfin glacier
#

in halopedia this is captioned as Green Sci Fi armor

signal wedge
fickle drift
#

I liked the classic shotgun.

worldly badger
#

Spartan Leonardo reporting for duty

elfin glacier
#

@candid solar ICESTEEL THE EDGEHOG

#

exposed pipes/cables/whatever is dumb but yet it's an enduring part of scifi aesthetic

#

dumb in the sense of being impractical

signal wedge
#

looks dumb

elfin glacier
#

ensemble flavored brutes

indigo lotus
thorny glen
# fickle drift When exactly?

Dec. 7th 2023
" it's just been a lot a lot of fun and to me this really starts to round out I think makes
infinite kind of the the the complete package that we know Halo fans have been waiting for"
https://youtu.be/Vrq9TNDan08?si=Itnk45A7BQEQi67k&t=335

Jan 19th, 2024
"going to be a very exciting year for Halo we are off to an exciting start we have dedicated team working on
supporting Halo infinite and continuing to deliver going forward but also uh yes we have additional teams now that are
accelerating towards the future working on brand new projects so I just want to tantalize you with that so there are a lot
of things cooking here of things cooking here we could not be more excited as part of that I also want to give a shout out we're actually growing the team right now so you're
passionate about Halo if you've got skills and you're interested please keep an eye on the Microsoft career site
because we are growing and uh we've got a lot of exciting things uh in the works for the future"
https://www.youtube.com/live/9aV4pIIz2p8?si=ygSWIsVNQr0jjYG7&t=3938

think I'm thinking of when Ske7ch said "complete package" and "brand new projects".
I know they referred to other stuff in these streams to but can't seem to find all of it through the youtube transcripts, would have to watch these entire vids again to refresh my mind with all this stuff.

anyways in Ske7ch we trust 🙏

elfin glacier
#

hello nighterlev

signal wedge
#

Halo Wars 3

elfin glacier
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my favorite part of the concept art is the forerunner cities

thorny glen
# elfin glacier hello nighterlev

why do people always want proof of stuff and when I mention it's gonna take some time to get the proof they think i'm making up, move on from the discussion, and when i bring the proof later cause I said it'd take me time to get it they aren't interested in the convo anymore

elfin glacier
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fomo probably

thorny glen
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and then assume i'm making it up still

signal wedge
elfin glacier
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no

thorny glen
elfin glacier
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i don't care

signal wedge
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someone said a bad word

thorny glen
candid solar
fickle drift
elfin glacier
candid solar
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Yay, Diamond Corporal.

elfin glacier
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maybe not a full city but an outpost or something

thorny glen
elfin glacier
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buh buh buh

candid solar
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I'm not shocked at all honestly, but then I have a very dim view on Bungie.

elfin glacier
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humen forunnr is ironicccc

thorny glen
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aka they basically just threw whatever at a wall and if it worked it worked, bam donezo move on next project pls

elfin glacier
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tbh not necessarily the worst way to do things, overthinking stuff can be an issue

thorny glen
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343i takes the lore waaayyy more seriously then Bungie itself ever did more or less, I don't quite get why people think it's the opposite. Bungie literally didn't care at all

candid solar
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Because hating on current holders is easy and requires no burden of proof to claim.

elfin glacier
candid solar
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Because it was dumb and clumsy.

elfin glacier
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tbh the more interesting question is, does humans being forerunners actually make tgings more interesting or compelling beyond HUMEN IS FOREUNR IS IRONIC BECAUSE PROPET MAD

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(No)

candid solar
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I hate these topics.

elfin glacier
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the two points i usually see are:

  • ooo its iroooonic because the covenant worship the forerunners but if humans are forerunners thats IRONIC OOOOOOOOOO
  • its mysterious ooooo
candid solar
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It's so damn rote.

elfin glacier
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you're rote

candid solar
drifting kelp
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I’m rote

elfin glacier
candid solar
elfin glacier
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salmon eggs

candid solar
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Yes

elfin glacier
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soon you will hatch

signal wedge
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they could have reseeded their own species

candid solar
candid solar
elfin glacier
candid solar
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Very powerful

candid solar
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The Trenchsalmon on their way to become more powerful (many will die on the journey)

elfin glacier
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the GREAT journey

candid solar
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Iconic....

elfin glacier
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‼️ deep lore

candid solar
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They shall be wed @elfin glacier

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To end the Halo Infinite content drought

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(They are a lovely couple)

hollow void
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Frog

autumn kestrel
thorny glen
thorny glen
# signal wedge they could have reseeded their own species

Forerunners picked Humans as reclaimers because the Precursors (or the new found info they had of the Precursors) also chose Humans as the Reclaimers.
whatever remained of the last Forerunners on the Ark then exiled themselves from the galaxy, because they didn't want to interact with it anymore.

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not all forerunners exiled themselves obviously, like the Ur-Didact and most likely a few other Forerunners to, but the ones at the Ark did & found a new home / planet.

livid oyster
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Huragoks are the true reclaimers

thorny glen
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like great great great grand children or something

candid solar
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I don't like the idea. Halo has had enough sudden outside context enemies for one console generation.

signal wedge
verbal relic
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I personally want a game focused around rion forge and her crew. Loved those books and they had so much potential to change things up in the halo universe but nah, we good with more forerunner/precursor nonsense.

candid solar
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I feel like making games about book characters is a bad idea.

signal wedge
candid solar
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Reclaiming their right to... What?

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They can't claim the Mantle of Responsibility, that's a lie and test.

signal wedge
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but Cortana did

verbal relic
candid solar
verbal relic
candid solar
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Okay, yeah, not worth discussing it with you.

normal owl
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Be respectful, this is just people's personal preferences and opinions.

verbal relic
candid solar
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Like, dude, that's a whole new sentence that has nothing to do with the first. If that's your straight away attitude on it I'm not engaging.

signal wedge
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I mean yeah the Spartan IIs are legendary... pretty sure they wanted to steer away from child soldiers but they could have atleast kept that 1 in a billion genetic thing

thorny glen
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i am hopeful for the future of halo

verbal relic
# signal wedge what

Spartan 4's devalued the Spartan program by fitting regular soldiers with weaker augments and weaker armor.

candid solar
normal owl
candid solar
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Okay.

thorny glen
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Mantle is basically being the peace keepers, that's kinda what it's always meant

candid solar
verbal relic
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I just think 343i are bad storytellers, everything good about modern halo lore was written by someone else other than 343.

candid solar
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Because one species being 'more equal than others' is a really, really bad thing.

thorny glen
verbal relic
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Greg Bear, Kelly Gay, their novels are great.

signal wedge
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Ancient humanity had an empire! and it was great!

bronze breach
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I shall police the multiverse. Mark my words. - Morbius, 2024

candid solar
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Guardianship for all living things lies with those whose evolution is most complete. The Mantle of Responsibility shelters all.

It implies that the superior race will determine the guardianship of all. That's boilerplate imperialist philosophy.

signal wedge
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HFY

candid solar
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That is not a good thing.

thorny glen
# candid solar Literally the basic statement of what the Mantle is.

It's not. The Mantle implies your species / faction are the peace keepers, you keep extermination from happening, but you let everyone grow & live as a species. You don't control everyone, you let nature take it's course like with everything, but you don't let them start exterminating everyone.

candid solar
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It's basically the sci fi species equivelant of the White Man's Burden.

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Which is why taking it as something to be emulated is degenerate and why Chief is right to call it out.

smoky token
candid solar
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^

thorny glen
signal wedge
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you're rigght maybe humanity should just keep all the forerunenr tech to themselves instead

thorny glen
smoky token
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and your source for this is?

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surely a precursor right?

thorny glen
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In fact it is said the Forerunners view of the Mantle changed over many generations, into something that it was never supposed to be.

candid solar
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I mean, it's Nighterlev, Nighterlev doesn't need silly things like sources.

thorny glen
bronze breach
thorny glen
candid solar
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Like the UNSC not knowing what CBRN is?

normal owl
signal wedge
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do you guys think Halo's story will ever end

normal owl
thorny glen
candid solar
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Yeah, see, I've never seen anyone agree with you on that.

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And I bring it up a lot because it's a great example of how unreliable and poor your judgement is on things like that.

thorny glen
candid solar
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Epitaph described it as being pretty much exactly as I just described it.

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So, not sure what book you read.

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Wait, why the hell am I arguing with Nighterlev of all people? I have better things to do than this.

signal wedge
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you're right but what difference is the UNSC? don't they subjugate outer colony worlds, ONI would probably jump at the idea of controlling the entire milky way