general-chat

[hasty zinc]

Noice

[amber mirage]

The one Rev's been watching over the past couple weeks

[hasty zinc]

I'll pick up the book when I get home

[fickle drift]

yes he did

[hasty zinc]

Maybe I'll get a paperback at the store

I'll be more likely to actually read it

[pulsar cobalt]

They most likely do yes

[obsidian wyvern]

oh my god

[obsidian wyvern]

I am so close to finishing

watched a bit of 3.0 yesterday. hopefully finish that tonight and then 3.0+1.0 tomorrow

[fickle drift]

Man the start of 3.0 goes so hard

[formal sinew]

Sweet

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah it's completely different to the anime

I need to stop saying that, keep forgetting you're watching it the other way

[fickle drift]

Nah I've noticed blatant differences already
Asuka coming in with the naval Fleet instead of being air-dropped for example

[obsidian wyvern]

the rebuild one was cooler

[fickle drift]

Hell Mari existing lol

[obsidian wyvern]

yep, I read the description for 2.0 and was confused who they meant by mari

[bronze breach]

love the description for sundred star

All in life is choice and your day to choose is come

Then I choose death.

but not mine. My enemies....

[pulsar cobalt]

Commando is a good weapon

[bronze breach]

wish there was more Mark IV items

want to try bulk up my spartan more if i can

@pulsar cobalt im convinced now that they used mark VII as a base for Mark IV, since campaign coatings isnt cross core.

[pulsar cobalt]

it also has event coatings

[obsidian wyvern]

screw it, give attachments to make spartans this big. its pay to lose but idc

[bronze breach]

yeah, precisely.

[zinc hatch]

Me when i lie

[obsidian wyvern]

tbf i like the commando on mkb, but im not picking it over the other 2

[bronze breach]

This is how bulky i can get it so far. I cant get it more bulky than that for now.

[obsidian wyvern]

i just dont like mk4 in game lol

[zinc hatch]

Tbh if I wanted a gun that's not exciting to use that also has massive bloom, I'd just go use the DMR on Reach.

[obsidian wyvern]

idk what it is about the core but it looks whack to me

[bronze breach]

how on earth some players can make mark IV like jerome?

with red stripes and all

[queen remnant]

I usually don't like super big armor or bulky but this goes hard

[obsidian wyvern]

last weeks ultimate was jeromes coating

[tight remnant]

No it was vannak's

helmet

[obsidian wyvern]

sorry, week before

[bronze breach]

I chose to come back late then... RIP

haha lesson learnt

[bold sparrow]

Did they stop giving out emblems for Comp level placements?
I just got plat but nothing happened.
Can I finally actually completely ignore comp 100% now?

[obsidian wyvern]

u still get them, and this operation's looks sick

[bold sparrow]

Huh. Weird.

[bold sparrow]

Ah yes, the rank I will never get because I run into people capable of beaming me through walls it seems.
Looks nice, at least.

[jolly willow]

how many perfect kills for this week's ultimate?

[normal owl]

What. A. Day. And it ain't over yet.

[fickle drift]

Hey, I was wondering if I get halo infinite on Microsoft store PC and on Xbox does the data save throughout both platforms?

I’m also signed in with the same Microsoft account on my PC and Xbox

[formal sinew]

I'm so glad i don't play comp in this game it genuinely enrages me in mk1

[round laurel]

This should work yes.

MP will carry over regardless of platform, but campaign progress is only transferable between the MS store/Xbox app and Xbox. Not Xbox and Steam.
If I'm wrong someone can correct me, but I think I'm right.

[fickle drift]

Ok I got halo on ms

So I’m pretty sure the data will save unless you’re wrong like you said

Also, how do I get more armor cores

[halcyon vale]

all armor cores are unlocked for free for everyone

[fickle drift]

So no challenges or anything they’re just there?

[halcyon vale]

yep

[fickle drift]

sick

[halcyon vale]

yeah👍

[pulsar cobalt]

I'm shocked

Rak is still my fav

[true estuary]

There was an Applebee’s on Reach

[fickle drift]

⬆️This post was fact checked by real UNSC patriots⬆️ TRUE ✅

[topaz gazelle]

434 Builds

[raw marlin]

halo ce servers are dying

Just like reach with traits, halo ce has the option of infinite grenades. One of the most unpleasant things that is killing the games of the custom servers

literally the games are unplayable

[livid oyster]

That post was fact checked by oni

[raw marlin]

no one has had a good server for a long time

[latent ingot]

is there info on when mcc goes on sale?

[raw marlin]

in my opinion

[obsidian wyvern]

probably mid march with the spring sale

but nothings been said officially

[latent ingot]

sick thats soon

[lilac rose]

Set a fire in your heart spartan

[queen remnant]

No

[stuck ruin]

Why can't I post images anywhere on the Discord?

[hexed geyser]

do custom Games still work on the 360 games

[undone musk]

Yee mcc custom games

[forest lagoon]

Gotta be an inheritor for that. But you can post a link like to imgur for a photo in the meantime

[stuck ruin]

I don't think I can link it because it is on my computer and not on any site.

[forest lagoon]

You upload it to imgur

[stuck ruin]

All I wanted to point out is that they should change the ranking emblems to being one embelm that shows your current rank.

[hexed geyser]

Cyber showdown ends 7 Days Before my bro mabye gets an Xbox

[fickle drift]

Pretty nice artwork, I like it.

[fickle drift]

hi can anyone help me on xbox one halo i was trying to do 2 players with my friend online but it didnt work can someone help me

[obsidian wyvern]

both on xbox?

[fickle drift]

no hes at home and im at home

likes hes at his own house and im at my own house we tried to play but it wouldn't let me join him the join button was blank

[obsidian wyvern]

did he send an invite

[visual oasis]

is anyone else's infinite campaign stretching the brutes

[fickle drift]

when I went to player details i tried to invite him but it the invite button didnt show up

[obsidian wyvern]

I mean what are both of you playing on

[fickle drift]

xbox one

[obsidian wyvern]

which game

[fickle drift]

halo

[obsidian wyvern]

halo mcc or infinite

[fickle drift]

masterchief collection

[obsidian wyvern]

have you both added each other? I can't remember if there's a setting that blocks invites from people who aren't friends so double check

once you have, click X on the main menu screen and it'll bring bring a roster section on the side, try inviting one another from there

[hasty zinc]

it's beautiful!

[steady jolt]

Wew

[hasty zinc]

this might be my new favorite coating

Didact came through 👏

[shut flame]

Hi everyone, question: if I load an existing save, if I want to do a “quick” legendary run, can I turn on all the skulls and switch it to legendary before loading the save or right on the missions while in game? Obviously I’m hoping it counts towards the locked achievements. Or do I need to start a new save for that? I was hoping I could just go on my normal save and replay just the missions on legendary

[round laurel]

Try updating drivers, restarting game, and/or lowering graphical settings so VRAM usage drops.

[shut flame]

I basically finished and explored the whole map, and don’t wanna go through that again if possible

[obsidian wyvern]

need to start a new save iirc

[shut flame]

Ah ok. Cause I was looking around my save menu and it gives me the option to turn on skulls and swap difficulty

I wasn’t sure what to do

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah it does but I'm pretty sure you don't get the achievements by doing it that way

loads of people end up not getting the laso achievement and I'm pretty sure that's because they've done it on already existing saves

best to just start over

[shut flame]

Ah ok ok, sad, I was hoping not to redo the map 😂

[silk sage]

I give up. Halo infinite sucks, every single campaign is better than this one. I have forced myself to play it for three years thinking the game will get better. THen I was able to save up for mcc and holy smokes it blasts halo infinite out of the water in terms of campaign(halo infinite was my first halo game).

[obsidian wyvern]

you just need to do the main missions, don't need to redo everything for the laso achievement

[silk sage]

yes but its not just the missions

[shut flame]

Oh really? Good to know

[obsidian wyvern]

no that was to hunter

[silk sage]

oh sorry

my apologise

[obsidian wyvern]

I have to agree with infinite being my least liked campaign

[shut flame]

I replayed all of the games (not 5 tho cause it’s not on PC), I enjoyed them all. Reach was a blast and roller coaster of emotions

[silk sage]

yeh, halo 2 is my favourite it was SO COOL

"what would you have your arbiter do"

[round laurel]

Linear sections sucked.
Cutscenes sucked.
But surprisingly the secondary objectives were the saving grace, as Infinite's gameplay is solid being able to dictate how you approach them was awesome. If it had been a 'next-gen' exclusive, I would've loved to see more AI for even more chaos — the best part of Infinite.
I never played coop but I can imagine it'd be awesome in Infinite.

[candid solar]

Me buying Epitaph for even a single crumb of Created lore

[shut flame]

I even replayed Halo Wars. Such a nice game

[silk sage]

yeah, but after a year the game gets so dull

[obsidian wyvern]

I played coop and other than just being with friends which usually always makes something better, it didn't really add much more to the game

[silk sage]

i've always wanted to play that but rts games scare me

[fickle drift]

yes on xbox we do

[obsidian wyvern]

I mean I guess you could say that for everything but idk, I had much more fun with halo 3 coop than I did with infinite

[shut flame]

It’s so much fun in co-op, always trolling and funny moments haha

[mellow pulsar]

I’m a really big halo nerd and I’ve been playing hell divers 2 recently I’ve been wanting to make a odst looking avatar but I don’t know how if you could help me with this I would love that

[fickle drift]

i miss bungie

[obsidian wyvern]

I'm not doing the bungie stuff tbh

[restive vault]

the best part of halo infinite was the farcry part for HVTs

[round laurel]

I mean... yeah. There's only so much replay value with something that lacks the dynamics of multiplayer.

[silk sage]

is the company dead, I still can't tell

[mellow pulsar]

Real

[obsidian wyvern]

by cutscenes sucked, wdym btw

just interested because not many people have said it

[restive vault]

they are animated fine but the words are rough

[fickle drift]

I THINK

[obsidian wyvern]

I'll say the multiplayer cutscenes were definitely bad

I think the campaign cutscenes were ok
this game has some of the worst dialogue in halo though imo

[silk sage]

ccuz like should I be anticipating marathon or not

[fickle drift]

bungie isnt good anymore

[silk sage]

bro the characters are so bland and the story is unoriginal

[round laurel]

I liked the intro but I wasn't a fan of the ingame cutscenes. I found them quite static and the pilot's dialogue was a little cringe in my opinion. Also the lip sync was at 30 FPS when I played. I'm aware that bug is now fixed.

[silk sage]

oh really, I haven't been checking them out in a while. How is destiny doing?

[restive vault]

bad for about years

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah I'm not a fan of in engine

it didn't do too much for the game and the first cutscene looking as incredible as it did made me wish they stuck with pre-rendered ones

the pilot doing stuff like hiding behind a pelican when he saw the weapon or kissing the ground was just appealing to 4 year olds I don't get why they did that

[silk sage]

i just feel like every time i play a new multiplayer game its just better than halo infinite. especially when it comes to the finer details

[obsidian wyvern]

like I understand how his character was at the start, but that was too much really

[silk sage]

honestly they made the banished the most cring thing ever

[obsidian wyvern]

here I'd disagree, I actually like the multiplayer for the most part

[silk sage]

i understand but

[obsidian wyvern]

it could be at the top of my list really, for what it is now anyway

[restive vault]

cant even roast inf for the banished since that was hw2 but the banished are stupidly power scaled for how much lore they had before being made

super secret even more dangerous than the covie army that also downplays og trilogy fight for survival very cool 343; also goes for endless

[obsidian wyvern]

still missing core modes like VIP, assault and grifball after 2 years is confusing

[restive vault]

and no slayer list

[round laurel]

What do you mean? Team Slayer is core.

[livid oyster]

I forgot about all of them. I wonder if grifball will even be the same without the wacky physics of the grav hammer. Diminisher of hope seems to be the closest to having crazy physics

[restive vault]

a 4v4 slayer i shouldve said big team slayer

[obsidian wyvern]

https://vxtwitter.com/not_weav/status/1762229659880566968?t=o-gsXIKXhfEhzIhDsR_aKw&s=19

it actually hurts with the slowmode here lol

[thorn wigeon]

[mental stone]

Hey look it’s the AI I use

[fickle drift]

so how do i play with my friend online on halo mcc

bc everytime i join halo it says a blank join and it wont let me join a player

say it again pls

bc i really wanted to play with my friend

[thorn wigeon]

Trying to find xbox theme armor in infinite is difficult

[fervent trail]

Was contact harvest made when 343 was around or when Bungie was doing halo

[restive vault]

bunger

[fervent trail]

Bunger eh?

[steady jolt]

Same year, but don't believe 343 had a hand in it.

Yeah it was published around the time 343 were just coming together

[fickle drift]

someone repeat it again

[cedar turret]

it. it. it.

Does that work for you?

[halcyon mica]

AGAIN

[lunar parrot]

So uh, how bout that Brushtread disruptive?

[hasty zinc]

https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1761215207127605742

Halo Support (@HaloSupport) on X

The #HaloInfinite team is currently investigating issues resulting in recent Shop offers, specifically the Brushtread Disruptive and Splashzone Coatings, to not unlock as expected. Stay tuned as we'll update here when these Coatings are available for their intended Cores.

Twitter · Feb 24, 2024, 2:23 AM

[lunar parrot]

Yeah I know, just waiting I guess

Kinda weird that it was a known issue yet they left it in the shop for a few more days

[calm apex]

I miss spamming BXR on lockout

[loud heath]

i'm confused

i'm buying battlefield 1 on pc, and i;ve played it on pc from gamepass before, but it says playable on xbox one and series x/s

[stiff fern]

Why does the losing side convert faster in extraction

Err extract ig

[molten pelican]

Hi confused, meet @viral dune

[forest lagoon]

There's a PC version and an Xbox version, make sure you're getting the right one

[silver fable]

Hi all, if I show a 343 employee my copy of Halo: Outcasts could they give me the Arbiter's Guard coating

i didnt have infinite when that coating came out

[faint mantle]

I don't think so

[fiery vortex]

Anyone switched over from Xbox controller to PC keyboard and mouse? Took a little while to get used to it and now I prefer playing on keyboard.

[candid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-there-i-am-spongebob-spongebob-commerical-gif-22318667

Me rn

[mint mesa]

The Covenant versus the empire from star wars, who wins?

[candid solar]

Empire.

Sheer force of economy and military doctrine gives them an edge, FTL's largely the same.

[next slate]

The Covenant

[candid solar]

The Covenant are problably one of the few factions in fiction to fight more moronically than the Empire did tbh

[next slate]

If they fire the rings it’s over

[candid solar]

Covenant don't have the rings.

[mint mesa]

I feel like the Covenant would win in fleet battles and on the ground, but their light space/air fighting is lacking.

[candid solar]

Compared to Star Wars, their space game is actually pretty weak.

[next slate]

The Covenant fleet were pretty menacing though

[candid solar]

They have a doctrine largely built around "I kills it with my battleships", which... Doesn't work quite as well as one might hope against an Empire that does the same thing, but owns nearly an entire galaxy, not just a single arm of it.

Covenant orbital acumen is very much lacking.

[next slate]

The super carrier seemed to be quite dangerous

[candid solar]

So is an SDS.

[next slate]

True

What about Darth Vader vs Master Chief

[candid solar]

Vader wins.

[mint mesa]

But the empire only had like one executor class Cruiser, the Covenant had like six suprrcarriers around reach alone.

[candid solar]

There was several Executors in existence.

The one that bore the name was just the first ship of the line.

[mint mesa]

Master chief wins. Jedi and sith wouldn't have the reflexes for bullets. Let alone something like an s7 or s99 prjectile

[next slate]

Vader got the force though lol

[candid solar]

I mean, force-sensitives have literally been demonstrated doing bullet time level manuevers casually due to the force, and while shotguns and fire worked on them, that's more due to being hard to dodge the spread than actually BS'ing through Lightsaber deflection.

[restive vault]

bullfrog odsts topple vader ezpz

[keen shadow]

In the Open Seasons comic, it's said that scattershots were extremely efficient at dispatching Jedi since it was a number of projectiles all at once

[candid solar]

WELCOME TO THE BULLFROGS

Falls off the map

[next slate]

What would hurt more a lightsaber or a gravity hammer

[candid solar]

Saber. Gravity Hammers just pulverize you into steaming meat.

[keen shadow]

A lightsaber cauterizes while a gravity hammer, well, pulverizes

[keen shadow]

Jinx on the pulverize bit

[candid solar]

I'm not buying you a coke.

[keen shadow]

[restive vault]

ive been lookin for the energy of a shot from the e-11 since i feel like covenant boarding parties would be a nightmare for empire depending on the power of their standard issue blasters but cannot find a concrete number.

[candid solar]

Helpful hint; Don't bother.

[next slate]

Lol

[restive vault]

but otherwise the empire has fleet depth

[next slate]

I wouldn’t be surprised if 343 had the empire mixed into the next halo game

[candid solar]

As I was explaining to someone who was trying to understand how the UNSC's logistics system works; Don't. Don't even try. Don't even think. It just is. It exists, and the only part that will ever matter to the end user is when the guy writes in the things.

It's like trying to understand MJOLNIR's dev process. Just don't even try, it's insanity.

[simple geyser]

I can’t believe halo died

[keen shadow]

[insert Halsey's journal here]

And just leave it at that

[candid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-hermes-conrad-bender-raises-more-questions-gif-10141495

What sort of circus was Halsey running, lmao? No emergency shutoffs, no 'tuning' via modular progression of myomer strand count, no faux prosthetic limbs that totally existed?

(I know Halo doesn't use 'Myomers', it uses 'piezoelectric material' or whatever, but the basic idea's the same, it's a muscle suit)

[muted rose]

You would encounter Navy troopers during boarding, usually not stormtroopers unless the vessel was especially important. Navy troopers are the actual grunts of the navy in the empire

[keen shadow]

Not me quickly reading up on piezoelectric material

[muted rose]

And they use Se-14c blasters, which (at least in battlefront) is a burst fire weapon, so it would take down an elites shields quite fast.

[candid solar]

I find it funny because Battletech uses Myomer, which works functionally and fundamentally the same way, both being a stranded 'muscle' metal.

But Battletech's is meant for vehicles, and they can tone it down by just... Adding less of it to things.

[atomic pine]

kinda unrelated but i had a curiosity, what music yall listen to?

[candid solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbm6CorwGXU&t

[keen shadow]

The Halo Wars soundtrack

[muted rose]

Depends. Soundtrack and pop rock, urban hip hop, and maybe even some good ol classic rock

[atomic pine]

which hip hop

[muted rose]

Urban, so Metro-esque

[candid solar]

This is also my workout mix.

[restive vault]

i think its fair to say its at least a plasma pistol so im inclined to agree

[next slate]

Everything

I can’t lie listening to Follow Our Brothers gets me pumped for leg day

[muted rose]

The E-11 is a pretty standard blaster all things considered, and has different firing modes and attachments. Nothing crazy, you can’t make it a full auto death-spitter, but you can give it some range. I’d say 2-3 shots with the E-11, but shields in Star Wars are fundamentally different than Halo shields

So maybe it might just reflect off and hit the neighbors dog

[keen shadow]

The majority of the blasters in Star Wars are plasma fwiw

[muted rose]

Most are tibanna gas heated to plasma

[keen shadow]

Now depending on rate of fire they might be able to melt shields. But there's a lot more variables than that

[muted rose]

Hence why they overheat

[restive vault]

if anyone has a better feel for dnd damage ratings the plasma rifle is a 4d6 radiant and the se-14r is 5d+1

[muted rose]

A normal cartridge for a DC-15 (clone blaster) has about 400 shots

But it’s a container of gas, not ammo

[candid solar]

Well, the big problem Covvie garbage gets is range. I imagine most Empire guns can fire further.

[atomic pine]

what are DC bullets made of?

[muted rose]

Ionized tibanna-plasma, hence why they’re blue

And effective against droids

[civic walrus]

https://youtu.be/BkV7YpM6zxE?si=d2qqie5xQgbLSPpH

[atomic pine]

beautiful

[atomic pine]

oh ok

[velvet heart]

Maybe

[tight remnant]

halo and star wars discussion?

[tight remnant]

That's not true at all

Star wars ships have much more limited range of fire. MUCH. As evidenced by multiple shows movies and so on, especially illustrated during episode 8 where you could see how limited the range of star wars space weaponry was

Meanwhile covenant ships are able to begin engaging at quite longer ranges. Thousands and tens of thousands of kilometers even. Covenant weaponry is also more devastating. Now there is lighter plasma weaponry but torpedoes, lasers and other weapons tend to pack a bigger punch capable of downing shields an inflicting massive damage and cutting ships. Shields can tank quite a lot of firepower and can regenerate faster. There are maneuvers where covenant ships will take turns engaging to get their shields up while the other takes it.

Covenant slipspace has the pinpoint advantage as well.

Plasma weaponry on the ground is also much stronger than star wars blaster bolts. Blaster bolts dont inflict nearly the same damage as plasma bolts as evidenced by the shows and movies where you can see the type of damage being dealt. A plasma bolt even from a plasma pistol has a much higher damage and fatality than a blaster bolt. The halo tv show depicts that more accurately with bits being vaporized

halo doesn't have as much fighter doctorine as star wars and it does have longer ranges. Fighters tend to play a different type of role in halo than they do in star wars. Because fighters in halo aren't in general as effective against ships which have good point defenses, armour/shields and capital grade weapons which deal a lot more damage short of specialized fighter payloads

Given some of the stronger covenant species tankiness, they'd be able to take down more blasters shots even unshielded.

And yes UNSC's kinetic weaponry is ideal for taking out jedi and the like. Jedi might have precognition but there is only so much they can react to. A lot of UNSC weapons would overwhelm the jedi an be too fast for the jedi to do much about them.

[mint mesa]

Thank you, these are the points I've been trying to get across

[candid solar]

I've heard a lot about how that's not actually the case, though my info is largely pre-retcon.

[mint mesa]

Someone said that a single death trooper could 1v1 an elite. I laughed so hard

[tight remnant]

Pre-retcon? as in pre-disney? that's 12 years ago

[candid solar]

yes!

[tight remnant]

Yeah it is inaccurate info at this point, twelve years later. Epsiode 8 of star wars is clear about it

[candid solar]

I figured that was honestly a drastically terrible aberration in the universe even in Disney's era.

[grave holly]

Y'all need to call Sony and tell them you'll put the master chief collection on PS5 if they give you hd2

That's a fair trade

[silver fable]

Vader vs Didact?

[red smelt]

hey guys

[red smelt]

didact for sure

[next slate]

Didact literally could have killed anyone if he wanted to

He could have killed chief

[muted rose]

My chief complaint about Star wars is just how inconsistent it is across the board

Everything from how people die, to how factions are portrayed, to even just general quality control

[mint mesa]

What's the engagement range for naval combat? I know that the majority of ships have some huge ranges with things like MACs and plasma torpedoes (which shouldn't really have the range they do, unless the magnets guiding them are the strength of Jupiter's magnetic field) at what ranges are they starting to use these weapons, and at what ranges are they starting to resort to turreted cannons and missiles?

[azure coyote]

It's so satisfying being matched with a great team in ranked arena and absolutely destroying the opposing team.

[tight remnant]

Turreted cannons and missiles? As in UNSC point defense weapons and missiles?

[chrome rose]

- gamers.

[cloud scarab]

anybody here got an inhaler

[chrome rose]

🫂 hug your fellow warriors.

[loud heath]

why are day-z graphics so bad for a 2018 game?

for example, Rainbow Six Siege is 2015, and that has amazing graphics

[halcyon mica]

DayZ initially released in 2013. It came out of early access in 2018

[slender snow]

I literally am trying to leave this game 😂

Joined this discord to get away from dayz 😂

[tight remnant]

Get on infinite

[loud heath]

just started dayz a couple weeks ago lol

[slender snow]

What map

[loud heath]

i actually don't know

i opened it, then i had to go somewhere and didn't get the chance to open again

i can't find any guns

[slender snow]

That’s dayz

[hard crane]

You folks switched places

[arctic berry]

I don’t know if anyone here can help me but I’m having an issue on the MCC PC version of the game but I simply cant find any matches, can someone help?!?!

[fickle drift]

I had gotten decently burned out of halo infinite multiplayer after it released because of the light content. I got on a little while ago though and have gotten into the game all over again. The difference in content compared to release is insane, I just think it’s nice

[cinder tinsel]

@silver mist smh

[silver mist]

What kinda name is EnergeticVampire

[cinder tinsel]

NOPE WE GOT IT

[fickle drift]

I wish some of the halo five weapons were in halo infinite like the railgun and pump shotgun

Or the magnum

[steady jolt]

@humble night Need something?

[halcyon galleon]

do yall think an intel core i5 and a nvidia 3050rtx could run hell divers?

[steady jolt]

Don't ghost ping me please

[fickle drift]

I think it happened again

[fickle drift]

Try checking the recommended device specs on Steam then you’ll find your answer

[halcyon galleon]

k

[fickle drift]

Go to hell divers and check the description, that’s where you’ll find it

[forest wasp]

just played a match of h2 mp mcc. got 5-10fps the whole time, on steam. apparently someone else was as well. never got this before. how do you screw up a game that was working totally fine with a final patch? smh

[cloud salmon]

halo 7 will have it trust

[lilac rose]

There won't be a halo 7 I'm afraid

[forest wasp]

technically there wasnt a halo 6 either. it was halo ∞

[frosty vale]

womp womp

[lilac rose]

That's true

Shame halo infinite story died so fast

[quaint yarrow]

bro is mcc dead why am i not finding an infection game

[obsidian wyvern]

you're not gonna find any games in infection at this time

[queen remnant]

Yeah lol

[quaint yarrow]

im in seattle with all the servers enabled like thats depressing

i found a big team battle game pretty fast

but i really want a infection game........

[obsidian wyvern]

no it's just that mcc was basically the halo to play until infinite

[quaint yarrow]

infinite is sooo bad though microtransaction city

i guess i do enjoy the multiplayer its okay

[obsidian wyvern]

even when the game was popular, infection was harder to find than most modes

[cloud salmon]

yh true

[quaint yarrow]

wtf is this custom firefight browser?

do u get good xp on that or challenge progress ?

"ohio wars" :huh:

[queen remnant]

I don't remember if you get some xp in the cgb

[quaint yarrow]

man dont tell me firefight is dead too on top of infection

[queen remnant]

MCC population in general is low so

The grand majority of people I see playing MCC is usually singleplayer mods and all that stuff

[quaint yarrow]

i might have to get an xbox and plugin my keyboard and mouse

i bet theres hella console peasants that turn off crossplay

[queen remnant]

I don't think is going to make any difference

[quaint yarrow]

no shot i found a lobby 3/4 players firefight....

[obsidian wyvern]

don't think you can turn off crossplay on mcc

[grand hollow]

I think you can

Can't remember how

[fair parrot]

halo infinite doesn't do bot camp in multiplayer that annoying

[grand hollow]

Why do you wanna play bot camp @fair parrot

[quaint yarrow]

bruv i was never meaning to bypass a profanity filter thats how just how i type

[calm fiber]

For server moderation concerns, please send a direct message to @bleak yoke.

[grand hollow]

@calm fiber shush

[calm fiber]

no u

[quaint yarrow]

did 343 make the game rated E to farm fortnite kids for microtransactions

[grand hollow]

Probably although it's bad they're charging for stuff yall gotta remember it's free to play they need to make money somehow

[rare cedar]

@quaint yarrow @grand hollow Please keep your comments in a constructive manner, as per rule #2

Thanks

[quaint yarrow]

💀

[grand hollow]

What I do?

[ebon inlet]

is there a place to promo servers cause me and my friends just made one for halo

[obsidian wyvern]

no

[rare cedar]

I misclicked your name, sorry 😓

[rapid pivot]

Never been a huge multiplayer guy but man those maps in the original trilogy were so incredible compared to what came after

[wild sleet]

Man I spawn Marines in Firefight for Ed Sheeran to end them in 5 seconds

[broken vale]

Where’s operation cyber showdown one and two

[livid oyster]

Those were events. Events don’t stick around like operations

Limited time

[broken vale]

Oh fr

[fickle drift]

So has there been any chatter about any thing regarding the next Halo title of Amy is in the works.

It really feels like they have been really great at keeping it under wraps this time

[steady jolt]

ske7ch mentioned on the January live stream that new teams have been formed and are working on new projects, but it's way too early to be diving deeper into any of that stuff yet

They didn't outline what new projects are being worked on, just "projects"

[candid tusk]

To be... Helldiving... Deeper? Halo Helldivers confirmed?

[deft peak]

theory crafting in the background

[loud ridge]

Yo

[broken vale]

Master chief!?!

[loud ridge]

Yes sir.

[polar wyvern]

dean winchester vs master chief

will you win?master chief?

[livid oyster]

How about a monkey’s uncle vs Tartarus

[ivory coyote]

This sounds about right for any early concept work. However given the success of Helldivers at the moment it would be a slam dunk moment if they brought that idea back and rallied around it. Given the outcry of xbox players right now slathering for a halo-like variant. Depends on longevity of how helldivers 2 does ofc.

Half the hilarity of helldivers is the graphic ways your character can die though, so idk how marketers and rating boards will feel if we saw ODSTs getting eviscerated lmao

[smoky token]

even if they started the second that ske7ch said anything it would still take several years to make that game

and helldivers’s hype is only gonna last so long

especially now that Malevelon Creek has fallen

[ivory coyote]

Yeah, can't forget the aspect that Helldivers took 8 years to get where it was now.

[smoky token]

mhmm

[ivory coyote]

Another 'anomaly' game of sorts.

[candid tusk]

The bots can keep it.

[obsidian wyvern]

theres been a lot of those lately

[smoky token]

at what point do the anomalies become the norm?

[ivory coyote]

Good proof of concept of what happens when you let devs have tike and resources though. However the fallback is that anything longer than 5 years in the gaming market right now is either it needs a massive success or it'll be DoA

[smoky token]

armored core, baldur’s gate, lethal company, palworld, now helldivers

i guess AC was kinda an AAA game but still

[candid tusk]

Among Us, can't forget Among Us.

[obsidian wyvern]

i wouldnt count ac

[ivory coyote]

FromSoft are solid and continue to deliver exceptional quality.

Their biggest wins have always been their DLC expansions for their soulslikes

[smoky token]

i guess? that one was an outlier even among those mentioned, though, on account of how it became popular in the first place

it’s also like 7 years old now

[smoky token]

god I hope we get DLC for AC6

[ivory coyote]

It took Covid to give AU the success it has now

[smoky token]

yeah

Zomboid has been getting pretty popular lately, despite it’s age

good for them tbh

[ivory coyote]

I'm not shocked at armoured core reaching success either. FromSoft built an insane reputation from the soulslikes. Elden ring gave them proof that they can funnel one of their older series to the front

[smoky token]

I mean, AC was always popular

it never had a bad reputation

but it is older, you are absolutely right

also one of the most fun games I’ve ever played

[ivory coyote]

Kinda funny that two of the wildest arcade like games are both ACs lmao

[smoky token]

I don’t care how BS it can be at times cough cough Balteus

[ivory coyote]

Ace combat 8 can't wait

[smoky token]

I expect Ace Combat 8 to basically look exactly like AC7 plus or minus a few new planes

like the Tornado

there’s not much you can really add past that which isn’t entirely fictional

like so many planes in AC7 already were

[candid tusk]

Add dragons.

[smoky token]

real

[ivory coyote]

I mean it's an arcade flight sim. You can only do so much. However the absolute insane storyline is what people love

Project Wingman proved this wholeheartedly, and was a love song to the series when people were worried about the future of ace combat

[smoky token]

they just banned bus lanes statewide in Indiana but only in Indianapolis

lmao?

[smoky token]

i have to finish PW

bought an entire HOTAS for that game and still haven’t finished it

[ivory coyote]

You're gonna have a lot of fun for the final act of that game. It really delivers.

[smoky token]

delivers as well as AC7’s did?

or AC6? (the other AC6, armored core)

[ivory coyote]

I can't say much without spoilers, but if you played The Belkan War entry for ace combat it'll be very familiar fitting, just turned up to 11.

[smoky token]

AC7 is the only Ace Combat game I’ve played

:(

that’s a lie actually

I had AC6 on my Wii waaaay back when but only played the first level

[ivory coyote]

Oh perfect, which means you'll have no idea

It's a trip. Trust.

[smoky token]

I have a vague idea of what the Balkan war was about from AC7 and the Maxor videos

[ivory coyote]

Maxor managed to make it look sane, but because his style is basically a video format of schizoposting it doesn't stand out as much lmao

[hasty zinc]

I think I only played one of the early builds of PW

[ivory coyote]

I posit the fact that the more insane and detached from reality that military sim games get, the better they end up being.

[smoky token]

wait maxor made something look more sane than it actually is?

jesus that game must be absolutely unhinged

and there goes the internet

[ivory coyote]

Have you met Crimson 1 yet?

[smoky token]

in PW?

uhhh. maybe?

[ivory coyote]

Yeah

[smoky token]

i haven’t been paying too good attention to the game tbh

i did the tutorial, got sent out on some merc missions, captured a FOB, met some other merc squad, it’s very icy, then went out to a less icy area in canada i think? and blew a bunch of tanks and stuff up

[proven storm]

Halo: epitaph is one of the best halo books I think we've ever got

In summary it answers a lot of questions in regards to the forerunner/reclaimer saga, and is pretty open, which is great.

Not spoiling anything of course

[smoky token]

i appreciate how you can actually fly higher than 12 kilometers in PW, unlike AC

i got up to 40km in one of my first dogfights

don’t even think the Phantom was able to fly that high IRL

least of all able to zoom climb that high like I was doing

yeah the phantom ii’s max altitude was 30km almost exactly lol

[fickle drift]

I'm ready for next halo

[smoky token]

well i hope you’re patient

[fickle drift]

I wish I was lol

Hopefully there will be one... something to look forward to

[smoky token]

multiple projects are in the works according to ske7ch

we’ll get something eventually

maybe even Halo Wars 3 or the oh-so-sought after ODST horror game

[fickle drift]

Nice

[severe fractal]

The possibilities for Halo games/ spin offs are literally endless

[hasty zinc]

or the oh-so-sought after ODST horror game
https://media1.tenor.com/m/913R4CKl2-IAAAAC/modern-family-spray.gif

[smoky token]

yeah, fair

tbh

[proven storm]

I don't know how or why they haven't made a halo horror game about the short story of the Mona Lisa

Like that is perfect

[smoky token]

cause the Mona Lisa is too short a story

[edgy osprey]

They could easily make a horror game based around the Gravemind

[smoky token]

they’d have to retcon half of it to make it long enough to be an actual game

[proven storm]

Just because the original story is short doesn't mean the campaign has to be

No they wouldn't what

[severe fractal]

Still kinda rough how few games we have considering the Halo Universe but on the other hand it would probably cost tons of money and time to make good games so I’m looking forward to anything Halo related

[smoky token]

the whole Mona Lisa event barely lasted an hour

[broken vale]

Isn’t the Mona Lisa a ship in the UNSC

[smoky token]

a former prison ship, yes

[proven storm]

That is not true

Not in the slightest

[broken vale]

I remember hearing of the Mona Lisa in halo but don’t know what it is

[smoky token]

tldr, it was a prison ship that oni used to experiment with the flood

flood got out, everyone dies

[proven storm]

It was a prison ship that oni ended up using to experiment on humans and covenant prisoners with the flood

[severe fractal]

It was a prisoner ship which had a small flood accident 😂

[broken vale]

That’s a dope piece of lore

[smoky token]

ODSTs investigate this “weird ship floating around” and uh… it doesn’t go well

[proven storm]

Yes

[broken vale]

Why’d they call it the Mona Lisa?

[proven storm]

And it could without a doubt have a game about it

[smoky token]

idk that’s just what they named it

why is the Pillar of Autumn called the Pillar of Autumn?

yk?

[edgy osprey]

UNSC ships have a lot of historical references

[broken vale]

Word asfk

[severe fractal]

Like they named the one Ship Saturn and the Captain has the picture of “Saturn Devoring his Son” for the Flood season. That’s such a cool piece of lore

[proven storm]

It would be silly for them to just arrive instantly on the prowler anyway, perhaps it could be from that prisoner and that elites pov

Maybe the elites would make more sense?

[vagrant frigate]

How's everyone doing today

[smoky token]

it must be so cool to be part of a prowler’s crew

[proven storm]

Because I think that prisoner dude ended up getting got

[smoky token]

in my humble opinion

simply retelling the books word for word wouldn’t make a good story

well

[severe fractal]

Hello Dutch, doing fine. How are you doing?

[smoky token]

wouldn’t make a good game

[proven storm]

Wrong again

[smoky token]

there’s a lot of space in the Halo timeline and galactic arm for random stuff to happen

[proven storm]

It 100% could make a great game, and if they start it from the prisoners pov slightly prior to the release of the flood that leaves a lot of room for add on

[smoky token]

a hundred thousand other possible flood incursions on big generation ships or whatever

[proven storm]

Not everyone reads halo lore

[smoky token]

??

not the point i’m trying to make

[proven storm]

Actually matter of fact, that is a big critique on the halo franchise. Most people don't read the books, or don't want to have to.

[edgy osprey]

It's a Halo game, not a regular storytelling game that can be made up

[severe fractal]

Large scale flood outbreak from another galaxy just to f up humanity 😮‍💨

[proven storm]

But halo has always told a lot of the story from the books, for example halo CE you randomly arrive at a halo ring with an alien alliance wanting to destroy you for... reasons? Well that's explained in both contact harvest and the fall of reach

How chief got back to earth after halo CE? Explained in halo: first strike

[smoky token]

Bad examples lol, Bungie completely ignored the EU

[proven storm]

My point is that retelling the story accurately to the lore in a game is not a bad thing, and it could definitely still be very interesting even to the people who have read it (me, for example)

[smoky token]

I don’t even think First Strike came out before Halo 2 did

and Contact Harvest definitely didn’t come out before Halo CE

[edgy osprey]

It's kind of hard to cover an event that lasted an hour and stretch it into a 3-4 hour long game

[proven storm]

But the fall of reach did come out before ce

Or around it, can't quite remember

[smoky token]

I think every Halo game has had at least 10 hours of surface level story content

[proven storm]

And they aren't bad examples they still prove my point

[steady jolt]

December 2003

[smoky token]

really?

that was fast

[steady jolt]

Yeah, I didn't realize that either

[severe fractal]

The first Halo book was literally released with Halo CE and for the US market it’s fine because all the books are there but for someone like me I had to learn English because all the books weren’t translated to German which is kinda sad but then again I play the games in English because I love the OG voice actors

[proven storm]

^

Bungie DID NOT ignore the EU, they just prioritized the games more or less

Also there was a comic that explained chiefs journey to earth on the forerunner dreadnaught

Not sure when that released neither but it exists

[severe fractal]

And maybe neither one expected Halo to blew up like this. I mean Halo isn’t just a game for some people it’s a complete lifestyle

[proven storm]

Also I don't even like the idea of calling it the "expanded universe" as halo lore is halo lore, they aren't separate. They are just told in different formats.

[smoky token]

but that’s what it is

it expands upon the games

[smoky token]

coughs in Halo Reach

[proven storm]

Halo reach is a poor example

[livid oyster]

Yeah that still bugs me

No it ain’t. That’s a pretty good example

[proven storm]

Bungie was done by halo at that point, they pretty much were just experimenting with what they could do once they left Microsoft and went onto make other games. Matter of fact they didn't even want to make halo past CE.

[smoky token]

bro Bungie notoriously hated the books why are you trying to argue this point 😭

[proven storm]

No they didn't, Joe Staten literally wrote contact harvest

[smoky token]

Joe Staten isn’t Bungie

[proven storm]

He is one of the main writers of the halo games as well

[proven storm]

Are you insane?

[muted rose]

Are you?

[proven storm]

Maybe

[smoky token]

he read my mind fr

[livid oyster]

Idk if bungie hated the books, but they certainly didn’t care for established lore

[proven storm]

I mean if I take your statement literally, no Joe Staten is not literally Bungie

[livid oyster]

At all

[muted rose]

I do know bungie did not like ODSTS

[proven storm]

But he is a significant part of Bungie and the story of Bungie

[muted rose]

Which is really strange considering how much most people like them

[proven storm]

And once again one of the main writers for the halo games

[proven storm]

I've never heard anyone say this before

Do you have any source for that information? I would be interested in reading/watching it

[candid tusk]

I heard that Bungie didn't allow grapes in their office.

No, I can't share my source. It's confidential.

[livid oyster]

No grapes? Not even the green ones?

[candid tusk]

None.

[severe fractal]

Source: Gravemind
Jesus now I’m getting consumed

[livid oyster]

Outrageous

[proven storm]

"My source is that I made it up"

[candid tusk]

Nu-uh. I would never.

[proven storm]

Yuh uh

[candid tusk]

Nuh-Uh. Trust me bro. lmao

[smoky token]

waiting for stckr to finish typing and prove me right

[steady jolt]

I heard that Bungie were a secret branch of the Illuminati, specifically placed by Apple in order to infiltrate Microsoft and bring about the rise of microtransactions in Halo games. Still mad about Macworld

I've said too much...

[candid tusk]

Oh... My... God.

[obsidian wyvern]

what ru on about

[smoky token]

[candid tusk]

Are you proven right yet? lol

[obsidian wyvern]

oh I wasn't scrolled down

[smoky token]

no but fr tho what is blud waffling about

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah I still stick with it lol, I just haven't read to see if he understood he was wrong

[proven storm]

🧂

[smoky token]

me of all people

lol

[proven storm]

Yes you

You pretty clearly are, you still haven't even bothered to refute my point so

[edgy osprey]

[smoky token]

i literally own this server

[proven storm]

Well, successfully anyway

[proven storm]

Okay and?

[edgy osprey]

Congratulations on 500 members.

[obsidian wyvern]

you didn't expand on how reach was a poor example

[smoky token]

thank you, trying to apply for partner soon

[candid tusk]

Make it into a HighSodium server and the population will blossom.

[proven storm]

Then you didn't read what I said, because I very much did. Why are you so adamant to always engage and rally against me? Are you still that angry about an argument we had what, how many months ago now?

[edgy osprey]

If you own the Subreddit or have it's management in the server, it shouldn't be too hard. Might have to had r/ to the server name

[obsidian wyvern]

the fact you think I'm still bothered by you saying a 40 series is a mid range graphics card is funny

[proven storm]

Also it should be high sodium chloride with anti caking agents 🤓

[obsidian wyvern]

saying bungie was done with halo isn't really an excuse lol

[proven storm]

Excuse?

[amber mirage]

Bungie got senioritis

[candid tusk]

Bungie as a collective prioritized Rule of Cool over the lore, that's all.

[proven storm]

What excuse? No one is making excuses

[smoky token]

bro said what?

💀

[obsidian wyvern]

you found reach cool?

[proven storm]

It's a literal fact

[amber mirage]

The 40 series being midrange is a fact?

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah lol

[edgy osprey]

I like Halo: Reach

[amber mirage]

I'm confused which thing is a fact

[candid tusk]

Yes, I did. I also enjoyed the irony of each noble team member's death. Falcons were awesome. Invasion was awesome. Forge had big upgrades. Reach was cool.

[smoky token]

reach was in fact cool

[proven storm]

He continues to mis-quote me even after I and multiple other people have explained to him what I was saying. What I said was that a 4070 is a mid range card within the current GPU market, which it literally is. 4060 is your lower tier, 4080 is your high, 4090 is your bench work/highest tier and obviously 4070 is the mid range of all of these.

[obsidian wyvern]

sorry I liked playing through reach but I have to continue hating on it for being reach

[hasty zinc]

actually it was pretty hot after the glassing

[steady jolt]

Reach wasn't cool...

Beat me to it haha

[obsidian wyvern]

lol

[edgy osprey]

What's wrong with Reach?

[restive vault]

zealot ambush cool fight me

[ivory coyote]

Honestly the first half of the story is a bit of a snoozefest until the halfway point when there's WMDs brought into thr narrative, kicks off with a leap

[muted rose]

Can’t find the video Marty commented on, but basically he said that ODST was essentially a forced release, the original team was working on a game for Peter Jackson’s halo movie, but when that fell through, they were strong armed by MS into making ODST, which is completely understandable tbh

[obsidian wyvern]

I don't remember anyone explaining it to me ngl, I remember everyone saying you were wrong whilst i was there.

maybe you changed your point later in the convo and I didn't see

[muted rose]

But there’s a post on r/halo about it

[proven storm]

No I never changed my point and all your buddies in that argument at that time, yeah they did take your side, that's to be expected. But when you bought it up like 2 months later and I once again explained it, I do certainly recall at least one person agreeing with me.

[forest lagoon]

What's going on?

[smoky token]

as much as i’d like that to be true in order to prove my point, I don’t believe a single thing Marty says

[steady jolt]

It's Wednesday

[candid tusk]

Nothing of importance.

[ivory coyote]

Have to consider taking everything he says with a bit of salt unless other sources can confirm. Marty has had a chip on his shoulder since he got axed by bungie and has a bone to pick.

[muted rose]

He frequently exaggerates, so, neither do I to be frank.

[forest lagoon]

Oh yeah, that makes sense now

Hi Frank

[obsidian wyvern]

oh yeah a new halo video came out yesterday or smthn that I know people are eventually gonna come here and talk about

https://twitter.com/Mr_Rebs_/status/1762603537958134026?t=kDjNfHWCV2J7qxrpMYGSKg&s=19

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[steady jolt]

Actually, that needs to be bigger

[ivory coyote]

Lmao

[muted rose]

It’s true that ODST had a rocky development, but I was essentially misquoting somebody. Bungie doesn’t hate ODST, they simply wouldn’t have made it if it weren’t for Microsoft. Which is my bad, I presented something as fact and it wasn’t

[proven storm]

The fact Microsoft insisted on using contractors in the development of infinite was a serious mistake

[smoky token]

I’ve heard this parroted about 1027464617102 times at this point

[smoky token]

everyone has contractors idiot, it came free with your dang making a triple-A game

[steady jolt]

I don't think there's a game dev out there that doesn't use Contractors

[obsidian wyvern]

something something halo dlc was actually planned but canned

[muted rose]

I was down with the misinformed

[proven storm]

Calling me an idiot? That isn't very nice

[smoky token]

it’s a quote

[obsidian wyvern]

lol

[proven storm]

Stckr is that allowed?

[smoky token]

with some swears taken out

[ivory coyote]

That's a problem as part of general Microsoft employment policy. It's just that MS has been pretty open about it, even though many other companies do the same

[edgy osprey]

Microsoft's transparency is their weakness?

[amber mirage]

Every company is pretty open about it

[proven storm]

Just because it's industry wide that doesn't make the practice okay

[smoky token]

like 30% of all gamedevs in the AAA business work under a 2 year contract

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-figure-joke-on-you-gif-11505039

[proven storm]

Especially not when you just made a new engine

[smoky token]

Sundered have you ever made a game?

[elfin glacier]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RbhoNpcXZ_k

[amber mirage]

Making a new engine isn't really relevant. Other companies do that with contractors too

[muted rose]

You have UNO!!

[restive vault]

gameengine champion

[proven storm]

I'll look at this

[steady jolt]

There are a lot of people out there that specifically chose to work as a contractor, which allows them to jump into a ton of projects, build portfolios and experience

[proven storm]

How is it not relevant? Making a new engine means new tools that need to be learnt, you need to know how an engine works in order to use it

[ivory coyote]

Sure, the practice is dog, and its gone to show just this year how badly game devs have been crushed by the industry. I 100% believe devs should be protected by things like unions but it won't happen unless they're all able to get together, which has been part of the problem since retaliation would be fairly swift

[amber mirage]

And they onboard people for that. Other companies do the same thing

[proven storm]

The reason MS and many other companies do it is so they don't have to give them employee benefits

[elfin glacier]

18 months is a good amount of time and different parts of engines/gamedev need different amounts of onboarding time

[ocean herald]

the state of halo infinite at launch/post launch speaks more to the quality of management being poor than it does the practice of using contractors

[smoky token]

You work with enough game engines you sorta realize that they are all the same

[proven storm]

Saves money, which is just an obvious business practice

[smoky token]

minus outliers like Gamemaker

[amber mirage]

Years ago, back before Unity and Unreal became really popular. That's how most game devs operated. Proprietary tech that required some onboarding to learn.

[smoky token]

game development has gotten extremely homogenized in the last 10 years or so

[proven storm]

And yet it was literally a reported issue that people would come in, see what was being worked on and not know what the hell to do?

[halcyon path]

Surely your joking

[steady jolt]

I started my current job as a contractor, by the end of it working with the tools was a breeze. Mostly learning the abstraction

[restive vault]

source is basically creation engine

[smoky token]

I’m not, I’ve worked with half a dozen game engines

[edgy osprey]

They are very similar, terminology differs

[smoky token]

minus the codebase used, they all work pretty much the same

[elfin glacier]

reported issue = one ex-kotaku muckraker reported that anonymous sources said it

[obsidian wyvern]

lol

[ivory coyote]

It just feels weird for me because here in the EU we have pretty strict employment protection laws so it's always an alien concept for me to talk about. Unless I do a serious amount of destructive things in my workspace I won't get fired because there has to be a logged and shown case of efforts to curb my behavior or else I can sue for wrongful termination lmao

[proven storm]

So that makes it untrue? How do you explain the excruciating poor updates that came after release, or hell, even the poor state the game release in?

[elfin glacier]

1. use excruciating properly
2. without more context and information i can't say why

[obsidian wyvern]

how can you put that all on "not knowing what to do"
you don't know that

[smoky token]

your entire argument relies solely on subjectivity and unproven “facts”

[proven storm]

I'm typing it on my phone and I can't be bothered fixing minor mistakes, I'm assuming you are intelligent enough to know what I'm saying

[elfin glacier]

nor do i care about why. it's enough for me to know about what the issues are and it's up to 343 to fix them

[proven storm]

Also if your argument starts to rely on attacking my character rather than actually my argument, then that starts to make you look a little pathetic

[restive vault]

343 sr dev is magic conch

[obsidian wyvern]

he didn't attack your character lmao

[proven storm]

Attacking a minor grammatical error is attacking my character, as it's a minor mistake on my behalf.

[ivory coyote]

[proven storm]

It certainly has nothing to do with my argument though

[muted rose]

Your character revolves around grammar?

[obsidian wyvern]

I think you need to understand what attacking someone's character means

[smoky token]

Why aren’t you arguing in good faith?

[proven storm]

My character revolves around the choices I make, those include the mistakes

[ocean herald]

yall are really debate lording extra hard right now

[elfin glacier]

what's a major mistake is uncritically regurgitating the reddit narrative without further research

[hasty zinc]

I think we've pretty much exhausted this lol

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-anime-gif-20656462

[steady jolt]

Kitty cat is looking disapprovingly at this chat and says it's new topic time

[proven storm]

What's a major mistake is completely dismissing everything and then saying "it doesn't matter" rather than actually looking for answers

[elfin glacier]

rabbits are long and round

[edgy osprey]

That's a cute cat

[muted rose]

False, rabbits are short and square

[edgy osprey]

My rabbit is long and round

[elfin glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-stretch-bunny-stretch-stretching-kisses-gif-21704581

[steady jolt]

Hang on, I have a better one

[muted rose]

Slinky rabbit

[elfin glacier]

long and round

[ivory coyote]

Stickr I can't believe I'm gonna say this but I think we need an even bigger bruh emote than previously established lmao

[smoky token]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-eto-bleh-anime-bleh-gif-26784876

[obsidian wyvern]

oh yeah, I walked past a building at uni at like 11am yesterday and found a duck staring at it's reflection in the window, walked past it 5 hours later and it was doing exactly the same thing lol

[elfin glacier]

omg

[edgy osprey]

Aw

[smoky token]

Narcissus and his Lake

[elfin glacier]

did you take a pic

[elfin glacier]

very nice

[obsidian wyvern]

I wanted to but I was running late for my lecture :(

[elfin glacier]

smh

[muted rose]

The foul creature gazes upon the wretched mirror of his own appearance

[obsidian wyvern]

I am disappointed in myself

[proven storm]

How is me literally asking them for their opinion on the reason why infinite launched the way it did, if they don't believe the example I gave, bad faith? "I'm beginning to think you are not very smart" - 343 guilty spark, since apparently quotes are allowed

[steady jolt]

We've moved on now

[restive vault]

hunt the truth

[elfin glacier]

duck floating on water tbh

[muted rose]

Wretched Feather being

[steady jolt]

Whoa

All the colors

[halcyon path]

Why are these firefights so long

[obsidian wyvern]

so true
https://twitter.com/ChiThukral/status/1762510079952077061?t=peTOClgHFmnNRwuIFGQQgg&s=19

chi (@ChiThukral) on X

i think leap day should be a internationally observed holiday - you’re telling me we get an extra day every FOUR years and we have to work?? that doesn’t sit right w me

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 4:08 PM

[hasty zinc]

#general-chat message

[halcyon path]

People keep quitting halfway through because it just takes forever

[elfin glacier]

perhaps it takes longer cuz people quit idk

[ocean herald]

it doesn't really have the same magic that reach firefight did for me

or odst firefight

[halcyon path]

I like the format of these better, they just take too long. It's like the length of a helldivers mission.

[smoky token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016189788715483146/1050602264928202763/taking_notes_with_the_counsil.gif

[ocean herald]

speaking of reach firefight. i remember you could set custom xp challenges to boost your rank, people would use it to get to inheritor.

[halcyon path]

I don't remember that. I do remember people would farm credits in campaign though by airstriking 2 wraiths over and over.

[elfin glacier]

lmao

[ocean herald]

yeah the length is too long. i wish they added more to the rounds. if i remember in reach you'd get a round were it would spawn grunts with fuel rod cannons

[ocean herald]

i think it was toward the end of reach's lifecycle, by the time 343 had taken over

[ocean herald]

i guess what i'm saying with this is, every round feels largely the same

[restive vault]

all the ones with ammo boxes are sleeper central

[normal owl]

feels like you're just going round and round

[amber mirage]

The pain of waiting 4 years and it turns out the leap day is already on a weekend.

[halcyon path]

I haven't even completed one yet because people quit by like round 4-5.

On my 4th attempt

[formal sinew]

Wait there's firefight with rounds now

[ocean herald]

it's like king of the hill

[halcyon path]

Well no, its like points.

[ivory coyote]

Lmao I just spent half of an hour in a meeting debating on whether a slur should remain a slur because its becoming more of a reclaimed word within the community that was subjected to it.

Trust and safety is riveting work lmao.

[formal sinew]

Oh i mean those only last like 15 minutes

[ocean herald]

if your teammates don't quit mid game, sure lol

[formal sinew]

I haven't had that happen surprisingly

[halcyon path]

Keeps happening to me. Maybe because its morning and kids are going to school, idk.

[formal sinew]

I think for cases like that it's still offensive for people who aren't a part of the group the slur is directed towards to say it

[formal sinew]

Yeah maybe

[forest lagoon]

Ok, but that's not really a discussion for this place so let's drop it and move on

[obsidian wyvern]

a day off for most years is good enough

[ocean herald]

people don't leave mine all that often, but they don't help with the objective much

[ivory coyote]

Aye fair, not gonna contest that

[halcyon path]

Man I wish these xp boosts weren't timed. I've wasted 2 because of 3 incompleted firefights.

[restive vault]

my isssue in ff is that my team either do not leave the hill or stand on the exact opposite side of the map from it

[formal sinew]

Most games I've had on that mode i have good teammates

I guess I'm lucky

[restive vault]

also people think the phantom grunt gunners are invincible

[ocean herald]

do the xp boost even work anymore? i noticed mine only work on the weekly challenges

[halcyon path]

I dont even know. I have like 40 of them from the first season.

[obsidian wyvern]

they work on the weekly and daily challenges

[ocean herald]

but not on the match xp you get, right?

[obsidian wyvern]

no

[halcyon path]

that makes no sense, why would they be timed then.

[ocean herald]

i don't get that lol

[obsidian wyvern]

wait, it works on the match xp but not like the 1000s of cumulative score you get

[ocean herald]

i mean the xp you get by just completing the match

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah it works on that iirc

it just applies the double xp without actually saying it's been doubled

[ocean herald]

weird, mine doesn't. i took a break after season 3 and came back to it not working

[obsidian wyvern]

I mean even if it didn't, it makes sense because whatever challenges you do within the hour, you get it doubled

[halcyon path]

343 had a brain aneurism when making all the systems in this game. Thankfully all these indie games are putting these larger studios in there place.

[obsidian wyvern]

what

[steady jolt]

Keep it contructive please

[restive vault]

spit your truth brother

[forest lagoon]

Say it don't spray it

[obsidian wyvern]

i don't see what's wrong with it, it'd be nice if the boost only had a countdown when you were in match but if you leave matches thats on you

[ocean herald]

i think we have to keep in mind that the game wants to purposefully drive you toward spending money. i remember at launch when you only got 50 xp for completing matches

[ivory coyote]

furious keyboard clicking

[forest lagoon]

lol

[obsidian wyvern]

did the emoji tilt too lol

[ocean herald]

i would like to see monthly/seasonal challenges that have big xp boosts. similar to how fortnite does with their challenges. i usually finish my weekly challenges in a day or two, and after that it doesn't really feel as rewarding to grind

[obsidian wyvern]

I think the passes are already too easy to complete so we don't need those

[severe fractal]

I would even be happy to have an old school XP bar on the screen which fills over time with kills etc

[ocean herald]

couldn't disagree more

[halcyon path]

1 hour doesn't really feel like enough time, especially when I come here to complain about the game between matches.

[ocean herald]

the commendation system for reach was pretty cool for example. there was a system tracking everything you did and you got rewarded for it

[obsidian wyvern]

pop another boost? you have so many

I think 1 hour is like the average amount of time someone's gonna spend in a game session so it makes sense

[ivory coyote]

My issue with dexp at the moment is that it still counts down even if you're not in a game. I fundamentally believe it should only subtract per game rather than live as it does now.

[obsidian wyvern]

also the last part is your fault lol

[restive vault]

burh.jpg

[obsidian wyvern]

I think my pop another boost comment wasnt the right thing to say though tbh

[amber mirage]

I did like it, but the thing I absolutely disliked was how it had diminishing returns. Over time, it rewarded you less and less credits for more and more work. I think H4 and 5 improved it on that part by not making it feel like all the rewards were such massive grinds later on for little payout.

[restive vault]

bring me back slot machine xp

[obsidian wyvern]

oh if you're getting rewarded more than just xp, say 100 kills with X weapon gives you a coating for X weapon, that's something I'd totally welcome

I just think that passes themselves don't require much at all to complete

[halcyon path]

They can't bring anything back unfortunately. They've committed to all the not my favorite systems and features.

[hexed geyser]

i find it funny that Chief or the MP Spartans can make a Goofy-like Sound in Halo 2

[ocean herald]

i can agree with that. i think if the reward justifies the effort/time, it's a good system. the battle passes just don't really do it for me, not to mention they're paid. if the shop items were a better deal maybe i wouldn't care as much

[obsidian wyvern]

still think they should change the career rank to give more than just nameplates for ranks before hero

[ocean herald]

that's what i'm wanting. a system where you get get rewarded for the grind. bragging rights as it were for how you play the game

[halcyon path]

Unfortunately everything is bought instead of earned.

That's why MCC is pulling more players than Infinite. Better progression (not the best, but better).

[restive vault]

i would wager it the mods for mcc

[formal sinew]

Mcc also has more variety because it has 6 games

[steady jolt]

There's only so much you can give away for free in a free to play game

but there's already been a ton of free items dropped

[formal sinew]

It really shouldn't have been free to play especially when it's already on game pass

[halcyon path]

Yea F2P was a huge mistake.

[steady jolt]

To a lot of people out there, f2p was great because i meant they could actually jump in and play it

[formal sinew]

If the campaign at least gave you like a ton of stuff i would understand

[hasty zinc]

and they dont have to pay every month to play online

[obsidian wyvern]

I think f2p was a good move

[hasty zinc]

I agree

[halcyon path]

All of these $10-$40 indie games would say otherwise

[obsidian wyvern]

also what

[elfin glacier]

it's not pulling more players

[amber mirage]

All those $10-$40 big multiplayer hits like?

[elfin glacier]

splitgate

[hasty zinc]

people just like to make up stats huh?

[restive vault]

sweatgate

[elfin glacier]

real

[steady jolt]

78% of statistics are made up

[restive vault]

100% ture

[halcyon path]

palworld, lethal company, helldivers

[forest lagoon]

80% of the rime

[amber mirage]

Which of them has PVP?

[steady jolt]

palworld

[restive vault]

hd2

[obsidian wyvern]

player Vs pal

[steady jolt]

lol

[hasty zinc]

HD2 isn't PVP lol it's PVE with teammate betrayal lol

[forest lagoon]

That counts

[formal sinew]

Splitgate was fun with friends but public matches were too sweaty

[hasty zinc]

I guess lol

[formal sinew]

Although that's how i feel about most halos

[obsidian wyvern]

then halo is a 1v7 to me

[halcyon path]

What's pvp have to do with anything?

[forest lagoon]

I had a firefight match become PVP after da hub ran me over with a ghost

[obsidian wyvern]

id say mood but I don't think I'm in your position

[hasty zinc]

there's context above my message

[halcyon path]

Oh I see

[amber mirage]

PvP is extremely reliant on bringing in new players. A PvE game can be played without other people

[forest lagoon]

More players to run into my death spray! MOAR!!!!

[halcyon path]

Well the point stands, a lot of indie games are making significantly more than these AAA titles, even the F2P ones.

[ocean herald]

what does it say about a f2p game that can't retain it's player base? idk if f2p was the move for a game that didn't have a good roadmap established, which at this point we know is the case

[steady jolt]

Please don't ping on replies, thank you

[amber mirage]

Statistically how many indie games are more financially successful than AAA games?

[halcyon path]

Honestly F2P isn't the issue, the main issue is 343i using it as an excuse to riddle the game with MTX.

[restive vault]

theres like 1 million indie games to every aaa im pretty sure

[hasty zinc]

what we need is a AAAA game (Skull and Bones isn't it)

[queen remnant]

Every day a new content, no microtransactions and everything free

The devs to the mines they go

[forest lagoon]

Hi ho, hi ho

[restive vault]

profitability is the main reason aaa has been stagnant

[ocean herald]

i would agree with that. i guess my point with that comment was, "how can you say f2p was a good move, given the issue the game had?" they didn't capitalize on it being f2p effectively

[hasty zinc]

those PPH mining numbers are looking pretty low!

[ocean herald]

my bad. discord is dumb

[obsidian wyvern]

imagine how much lower the playerbase would be if you had to pay for the game in infinite's case

[queen remnant]

Mtx would be there anyways too if the game is paid, if anyone is going to bring that up

[ocean herald]

why would it be lower? previous halo titles have done very well at launch, and infinite was riding a pretty big high during the beta. not to forget it was also on gamepass

[forest lagoon]

I like reclaimer9's banner

[candid solar]

The famously free post-launch-content of the Halo franchise

[queen remnant]

Were where you during the first year

[halcyon path]

It can be F2P without locking 95% of customization behind a paywall.

[obsidian wyvern]

that isn't my point

[amber mirage]

I can guarantee that the number of Steam users that were there at launch and after would be significantly lower if the game wasn't free. Xbox too since not everyone has Game Pass.

[obsidian wyvern]

infinite didn't retain players because it had nothing to play past the first 2 weeks of the game, even less people would have tried it out if it wasn't f2p

[normal owl]

No it can't. That's not how game revenue works. If you're not recouping development costs and then making a profit via unit sales, you must do so via in-game transactions.

[hasty zinc]

idk how much influence gamepass had on Infinite launch MP since it was just free everywhere

[queen remnant]

And it took a while to get what we got

[ocean herald]

i guess the underlying implication with that statement is that a game has to be f2p for it to have a larger audience, when that just isn't the case. paid games still do really well

[obsidian wyvern]

people didn't just drop the game the second they saw the prices of store bundles, I'm not saying people didn't quit because of that, it just wasn't the driving factor

plus like others have said, even if it wasn't f2p, it would have had mtx

[ocean herald]

and with the benefit of hindsight, we know it being f2p did not help it very much

[queen remnant]

Depends IF the game has enough content and post-launch

If the game does not have anything for months and takes a while, well, you get the same situation

[normal owl]

The biggest player bases in the world are overrepresented by f2p games, so the data shows that f2p enhances reach.

[queen remnant]

Imagine now having to pay 60€ and for console people to pay the xbox gold on top of that
less players

[obsidian wyvern]

paid games can do well, but lowering the barrier to entry for the same game would definitely increase player count saying everything else stayed the same - which it wouldn't

[ivory coyote]

God that meeting was awful lmao. It took over a month to get what I thought was something simple aligned now properly on all angles

[candid solar]

Halo is also not a franchise really designed to keep players coming back for the same guns, same fights, same maps all the time.

[queen remnant]

Yeah

[ocean herald]

i said that earlier. they didn't effectively capitalize on it being f2p. there was little to no content for too long

[amber mirage]

Are the angles right, obtuse, or acute?

[restive vault]

tinfoil goes they count on halo whales and low concurrent players to maximize the f2p model

[candid solar]

Well, technically, it is designed for it, actually, but it's not actually a very effective or useful way of designing a game nowadays.

[normal owl]

Don't ask me, I don't have a degree in trigonometry.

[halcyon path]

Earnable currency (that can also be bought). You know, like Helldivers 2 and Warframe. I'm sure I could think of some others too.

[ivory coyote]

Should have been right but ended up being obtuse. Not even joking thats the best way to explain it. We have a specific policy targeting exception cases for the policy but for some reason there had been unclarified questions in relation to it when put against other policy priority routes.

[amber mirage]

That's why I bring a protractor to all my meetings

[ocean herald]

god this ping/no ping thing is annoying. i can't easily what is a response to me without a ping 😆

[halcyon path]

Just don't ping the mods, they've been weird like that for as long as I can remember.

[normal owl]

Earnable currency would be wonderful, as long as paid currency took up a large enough slice of the pie to completely pay for the game's past and ongoing development.

[steady jolt]

There's nothing weird about it

[ivory coyote]

That's not necessarily weird they just wanna be pinged when irs something important lol

[candid solar]

Helldivers 2 is a much cheaper game to make than Halo.

[normal owl]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-darryl-darrel-darell-gif-25054379

[ocean herald]

i wish discord differentiated between a reply and a direct ping

actively having to disable ping when you're replying is a terrible design choice

[forest lagoon]

Not all of us mind the ping

[candid solar]

It's dumb that there isn't even an option to have it default to not ping.

[obsidian wyvern]

I do wish replies without pings would show up here as well though

[halcyon path]

They would both be the same currency (credits). You can slowly earn it in-game over time, or buy it in bulk immediately with money. It would also be better if they had a static shop instead of a rotating one, so people wont sit on currency waiting for items to rotate (people who sit on currency do not buy currency).

[ivory coyote]

You'd prefer it to almsor be server side setting almost? So manually @ ing someone would do a notification rather than just a quick reply?

[steady jolt]

Yep, been feeding this back to Discord for ages

[ocean herald]

maybe just a visual thing, so that in a channel you can highlight responses. but then also, since pinging is a concern have it not ping? explaining it sounds dumb

[obsidian wyvern]

they have it so replies don't ping in DM by default so I don't see why they can't add it for servers

[forest lagoon]

But also a DM is a ping in itself

[candid tusk]

They're hard at work adding $10 profile borders instead.

[ivory coyote]

Probably a resource allocation issue. I know for a fact their T&S is up to their eyeballs right now so something like ping enablement / disablement might not be a high UI priority for their engineering team.

[normal owl]

That sounds neat in my head, but the games industry's majority of revenue for years has been in-game transactions, so people who are way smarter and more invested than you and I have analyzed these business models and determined that creating different currencies for different obtainment methods (earned vs bought) is usually the way to go. So far, they've not been proven wrong in the numbers.
In order to ensure that people aren't earning currency that they may otherwise purchase...we would have to widen the player pool as much as possible.

[forest lagoon]

Yet new mobile UI breaking important functions was high priority...

[obsidian wyvern]

if you're muted in dms, pinging bypasses that so the option is still there

[forest lagoon]

Huh, never muted DMs

[formal sinew]

New mk update today

[normal owl]

Peacemaker?

[ocean herald]

god dang it

[formal sinew]

Yes

[ocean herald]

i forget you can't curse in here 😦

[formal sinew]

And crossplay because the game didn't launch with it for some reason

[ocean herald]

annoyingly most in game currency systems are designed in such a way that you're always purchasing more in game currency than you need to buy an item. i understand it's a "business" decision, but it's def a valid critque of these systems

[normal owl]

I love the use of the different helmet powers in the trailer lol

[obsidian wyvern]

easily
lol

[formal sinew]

Yeah he looks awesome, the Janet cage kameo looks really lame though

[normal owl]

Oh definitely, that's a strategy that goes way back to before video games. Retailers enjoy that extra margin where someone gave them money but then did not redeem 100% of the credit later.

[obsidian wyvern]

world peace would be achievable when this happens in most games

[formal sinew]

Mortal Kombat 1 is the only game I've played where you can get the premium currency for free by means other than a battle pass

[neat abyss]

@steady jolt yo I need help

[obsidian wyvern]

he def read the rules

[steady jolt]

With?

@neat abyss Send a DM to @bleak yoke if it's a moderation issue or create a thread in #1075989764026675210 if it's a support issue. Don't tag staff for non-emergencies please

[formal sinew]

People been typing here for like 5 mins

[silver fable]

Mobile now is barely functional and extremely laggy, my favourite gifs tab is greyed out and I can no longer open it on mobile. Discord sucks man

[hasty zinc]

Epitaph obtained. It is time.

[formal sinew]

Yeah i couldn't figure out how to change group chat names for like 3 weeks

[queen remnant]

Tell me if anyone there does a fortnite dance in the book

[silver fable]

Unnecessary change after unnecessary change

[hasty zinc]

if the didact doesn't griddy, I will refund

[silver fable]

‘I guess this was truly my Halo: Epitaph’

[ivory coyote]

Enjoy. Its a hoot. Definitely made for the fans.

[halcyon path]

That's the fun part, they're not smarter than anyone else, as every studio just mocks real world retail business models (or other games).

They're marketing an unlimited supply of intangible product like its a limited supply of tangible product. These rotating shops and artificial item rarities is there way of imitating "limited" supply.

[hasty zinc]

I'm nervous about starting it

[elfin glacier]

and making pointless font changes

[candid tusk]

Do not be. Just do it. Let it wash through you.

[elfin glacier]

remember that they broke cjk font support just for a stupid meme

[hasty zinc]

I dont' want this book to be the end of the Didact

that's my biggest fear

[ivory coyote]

It's peak high science fiction in terms of genre. But there is gonna be a 'this could have been in the game' moment a couple times. Other than that it's fantastic.

I see forerunner trilogy as peak high fiction and epitaph absolutely evokes that feeling for me personally.

[obsidian wyvern]

I can easily imagine it being his end unfortunately

[hasty zinc]

oh teh forerunner trilogy is the best book series

[hasty zinc]

is this a guess or based off what you know about the book

[obsidian wyvern]

guess, I wouldn't spoil