halo-discussion

[rocky oasis]

where are images allowed? banning them serverwide sounds doubly bizzare

oh this works!

these are my favourite looks for the mkv i think 🤗
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2795328867
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2344011805
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2376361370

the h1 one just looks too low res for me to appreciate i think unfortunately

and h2a got a literal elephant helmet before mkv 😵 oh well

[fossil harbor]

vertigo is such a pretty map

[rocky oasis]

it is! i never really see it though?!

not sure why

[fossil harbor]

funny enough it shows up more in mcc than og halo 4

[rocky oasis]

hmm whys that?

[fossil harbor]

DLC map, so the entire lobby never owned it

[civic sundial]

I remember seeing a merc try to kill the teal guy at Vertigo

[rocky oasis]

phh that makes sense

[fossil harbor]

lot of the DLC maps for halo 4 are really good too

[rocky oasis]

i never really had a look at them not many halo 4 customs are open sadly! even though i like 4

[fossil harbor]

I honestly love halo 4, but im a sicko for the weird halos

if it had clamber it would be perfect

[civic sundial]

Oh if Halo 4 had clamber... Oh that would've been fantastic

[rocky oasis]

me too it just stuck with me. i really like its campaign a lot. its my 2nd fave behind reach

[civic sundial]

And it's not like games didn't have that as a mechanic at the time either, Dishonored released the same year as Halo 4 and had a clamber

[fossil harbor]

only campaign that made 12 year old me cry lmao

[rocky oasis]

daww 😢 i can see why

[tulip tusk]

halo 4 multi is fun i can only play it for a bit tho then i get headache

[rocky oasis]

sfx too intense?

[shadow turret]

Reach, 4, and Infinite are easily my fave games tbh
but yea I do wish that 4 had clamber
(and that all the older Halo's had at least 4's sprinting system)

[tulip tusk]

im not sure must be something with the lighting or sfx like u say

[rocky oasis]

yeah h4 is a bit hard on the eyes and ears i feel that

[fossil harbor]

halo 4 sprint is kinda bad ngl, same as reach. halo 5 perfected sprint

infinite is also solid feeling

[rocky oasis]

yeah h4 sprint is weird reaches is balanced though i think

[fossil harbor]

its just kinda slippery

[shadow turret]

I don't love 4's sprint, and I much prefer Infinite
but I feel like the older games should have at least had H4-like sprint, bc its always made 0 sense to me why Spartan's can't sprint in the older games

[rocky oasis]

4s is slippery for sure yes

[civic sundial]

The thing with Halo 4's sprint is that it's similar to the old CODs and how sprint works there too, where there's a limited duration on the sprint but you can't see how long until it's ran out

[rocky oasis]

balancing. youll notice a lot of remake maps are much bigger, its to account for sprint
sprint is sort of a pointless feature in infinite theres no need for it besides sliding

[civic sundial]

Well, Halo 2 almost had sprint until it got cut due to them not really being sure how to balance it (Which is true for so much in Halo 2 given how much was cut during development)

[rocky oasis]

sprint feels good but thats about it halo never needed it

[shadow turret]

yea
and like I get that there's reasons it wasn't added
but especially in certain campaign levels for the older games, some are just tedious to walk through, especially CE, where a decent few of the levels you can't talke vehicles all the way through

[rocky oasis]

one thing i will complement 343 on is footstep sounds or at least the ones in h4. so clunky! spartans were always unnaturally quiet to me

[fossil harbor]

would be interesting to see how halo 5's shield timer would play out in infinite

[crystal iron]

Just use forge

[warped yew]

Is Infinite so lame we forget forge exists in that?

[fossil harbor]

I meant as a proper mechanic, not some clunky forge script

[crystal iron]

It’s not even that clunky, you just change a number around and you got the same thing for the most part

[fossil harbor]

and it resets the timer when you sprint?

[crystal iron]

That will have a script of its own

But like the sprint isn’t even fast in Infinite and that little feature balanced out that you couldn’t sprint in all situations to 1 Hit Ko everybody

[fossil harbor]

it was definitely so people couldn't just boost away out of every battle scot free

sprint comboed with boost i mean

[crystal iron]

Yeah there were probably more factors but the idea of being able to melee thrust in all situations without a consequence kinda sounds unfun

[onyx latch]

That was easily my least favorite feature in 5, because frankly, if you can't secure your kills, that's on you for failing, not on the other guy for running away.

People who complained about the shields recharging if you ran away needed to git gud.

[fossil harbor]

I think it’s a genius feature, but I think it only works for halo 5.

[magic night]

It was a really good feature. Adds to the risk-reward decision making.

[fossil harbor]

I like to think it made me better at navigating map geometry under pressure, learned a lot of crouch jumps and whatnot to keep moving without canceling the timer

[warped yew]

Gee not sprinting ended up making you learn shortcuts you wouldn't have otherwise used. It's almost like sprint ain't needed

Jk lol

[rocky oasis]

why are so many bigoted and racist people in the halo community. i just had to leave 2 consecutive groups back to back because of it because the owners openly allowed it

i just want to make halo friends. it really upsets me

[civic sundial]

Some people are genuinely terrible. T'is the sad reality of the world

[rocky oasis]

ive met cool people but its beginning to feel more and more like making friends in this space is a dead end. as in i need to make friends who happen to be halo players, not try to make friends with halo players

[rocky oasis]

not even some, many. this community is just awful

im sorry for the vent idek if this is allowed in this server. i just want to make friends and i feel violated each and every time because they just turn out to be bad people

[civic sundial]

It's a cruel world we live in, one which can cause harm in so many ways. You just gotta find your people that you know won't hurt you

[rocky oasis]

something really bizzare just occurred to me. using slurs and racist words gets you instantly banned in warframe

why isnt that a thing in halo?

[coarse dagger]

Halo's Safety team and Xbox Enforcement generally catch most of these, but people will always find ways around filters. Definitely worth reporting anything like that you see so it can be taken care of. You should also be abel to report voice chats on Xbox as well now

[rocky oasis]

find ways around the filters such as by just using the words in question. because there is no filter. thats my point lol

i wasnt even talking about voice, thats understandably not the same thing. i was talking about text chat.

[coarse dagger]

If it's in-game chat, there are filters as far as I'm aware.

[rocky oasis]

no, there arent. people who use those words just have them censored. that isnt a ban

i should know because every other lobby is filled with people using them

[rocky oasis]

i know your just a mod so i dont expect you to know the answer which is fine. im just saying. we arent talking about the same thing

i love this game and just hate how it allows for open bigotry and racism. im part of the warframe and risk of rain communities and those two work really hard to combat it in their own ways. here it seems almost condoned

i and others feel safe there. here we are targets. and 343 is more than ok with that

[fossil harbor]

I know how you feel. I’ve had to cut off certain friend groups both online and IRL because of this. You really just have to pick your battles I guess, I personally think this server is pretty good about keeping the discussions healthy, granted it’s a massive server so there’s going to be trolls all the time. I don’t really know how communities like Warframe manage to stay so positive but I really don’t know how the “bro” culture of Halo could ever change, it’ll always have bad actors. I’m genuinely sorry you’ve run into so many.

[rocky oasis]

i appreciate your understanding and im sorry for being so publicly hostile and upset about it. it hurts. theres just so much sexism, racism etc

im also sorry youve had to cut people off for that too. much love.

[fossil harbor]

I just try to remember that the internet is still somewhat of a Wild West and people will say things they wouldn’t dare say IRL. 🤷‍♂️

[rocky oasis]

i know what you mean about the bro culture though and from what ive seen neither this place but especially the game itself doesnt do enough to counteract it. ie a mod i value deeply of the risk of rain discord is literally educated in racist, sexist and bigoted dogwhistling

ive had conversations with people in this server who i know to be bad faith here and nothing was done about it. because they werent explicit enough i suppose

[frosty condor]

A mod here?

[rocky oasis]

risk of rain. thats my point. the ror/warframe community is simply better and more proactive about creating a healthy community

[frosty condor]

ooooh ok ok

[rocky oasis]

anyway i appreciate your sympathies @fossil harbor, sometimes its nice to just be heard amongst the sea of people who arent interested, or complacant

[fossil harbor]

We need a Rebecca Ford in the halo dev team fr

[rocky oasis]

or just someone who cares about bigotry lol

one guy. just one? 😹

[frosty condor]

It's tough to moderate a server of a quarter million people, especially where we can't moderate vc. We rely on folks here to report it in Modmail.

If it's in game, do what stckr said and report and block them 🙂 I'm sorry you have to deal with those kind of folks, but blocking them makes your world easier bit by bit.

[rocky oasis]

fun fact, the risk of rain discord has only a few thousand less members than this one (also 20k more online currently interestingly). yet still, its astronomically better at it.
because they care.

i wasnt even talking about vc, no offense.

i dont mean to be hostile, your part of the system, not the pinnacle of it. im just saying. its night and day

[coarse dagger]

Seems to imply we don't care, which is as far from the truth as you can get. We do the best we can with the staff and tools we have

[rocky oasis]

maybe you as an individual do but i moreso mean on a systemic level. im sorry for not being more careful with my words

its little things, like slurs outright being allowed in game chat and people here making sneaky sexist remarks that allow for plausible deniability because its in the veil of a civil opinion

i didnt mean to target you or footed specifically so im sorry for coming across that way. sincerely.

[magic night]

Slurs aren't allowed in game chat, though. If you hear them, you should report them.

They just can't be auto-blocked like text chat

[rocky oasis]

im not talking about vc. i never was. vc is a different beast entirely

[rocky oasis]

thats my point. merely censoring naughty words isnt fixing anything.

if people use slurs, they should get banned from the game. immediately. no questions asked

if people circumvent that and get reported, they should get banned from the game, no questions asked.

[magic night]

I guess I'm not understanding what you're referring to then

[rocky oasis]

what?

[magic night]

If not VC, then where are you seeing the slurs?

[rocky oasis]

halo has a text chat function

you more commonly see it used in custom games than matchmaking. is that where your confusion lies?

[magic night]

So people are saying slurs by bypassing the filters?

[rocky oasis]

people ARE using slurs

i dont understand what im not being clear about, sorry

[analog salmon]

they do get banned, just keep reporting them

its probably not instant because it takes a human to look at

[rocky oasis]

thats my point. why should i have to report them even once? if you use the n word, you should be banned, immediately. it should be an automatic response to that word being typed and entered into chat

the fact that that isnt a thing is disturbing.

[analog salmon]

i mean they obviously do try to filter as much as possible

[rocky oasis]

i feel like im not speaking english.

nevermind. thanks for reading.

[analog salmon]

its just not feasible what u are suggesting. when you try to filter every possible character combination you hit false positives and ban people who aren't saying slurs

sometimes a human has to review it

[rocky oasis]

warframe does it, and warframes fine

[frosty condor]

halo isn't warframe

[rocky oasis]

but at least you understand what im saying. thanks

[frosty condor]

different systems are in place

[rocky oasis]

exactly. warframe cares more about the issue im talking about. thats been my point the entire time

[analog salmon]

sure it could be better but there's no perfect system

[rocky oasis]

there are better ones than what currently exist lol. thats all im saying. no need to keep talking about it its not like this conversation changes anything lol

[analog salmon]

aight but i dont really think its fair to paint 343/Xbox as doing little to address abuse

[frosty condor]

You can turn off text chat in game if it's bothering you this bad.

That's the only solution I can think of

[rocky oasis]

thats what im doing, because they do do too little. simple as that.

[rocky oasis]

i wasnt asking for a solution. thanks though

[frosty condor]

so your only thought in this entire convo was to drag Halo Studios through the mud over their in-game moderation system for text chat when there's an option to turn it off all while praising an entire different company's way of handling things?

[rocky oasis]

yes

[rocky oasis]

thanks footed 😋

[wooden briar]

Well since you're strongly in favor of stricter moderation, you'll be glad to know your voluntary admission of non-constructive content in violation of #rules-and-guidelines is being noted and swiftly addressed.

[rocky oasis]

thanks!

it does go to show somewhat though doesnt it

[wooden briar]

It does! It goes to show you are oblivious to yourself not following community standards in the very process of judging others for not following standards in the way that you personally see fit.

[crystal iron]

Ngl the next game’s forge should allow people to import custom audio to the game.

You could add dialogue to your forge map

[jovial geyser]

Ayo why is Emma muted?

[modern sparrow]

^ for what it's worth, I think the mods handled the above rather poorly

I'm going to screenshot this conversation and send it to Halo studios

there was no dragging in the mud of Halo studios' name here

seriously reconsider your actions

[celest heron]

there kinda was, but she did apologize

[coarse dagger]

Let's move on please, moderation actions are not up for public discussion

[modern sparrow]

yes, exactly, there is no need to discuss this further here. Please review this internally

[deep flint]

pls guys dont join ranked games if you dont have brain ty 🙂

[onyx latch]

But that's literally the requirement to wanting to play ranked, is brain removal.

[civic sundial]

So is that permission to use the brain removal machine or no?

[tulip tusk]

what if in order to play ranked you need to read a paragraph and answer 1 question about its contents. if u get it wrong maybe you get insulted or berated

[civic sundial]

Sounds like a job application I did last week

[tulip tusk]

if u get it very wrong the game will say "maybe easy difficulty firefight is more your skill set, come back when you can land a shot on an enemy"

i feel bad about this its an extreme measure not very related to reading

mayb some shooting gallery test then instead of reading

[shadow turret]

Well you see, the problem with that is most of them can't read

[dusky hazel]

See... the perfect solider is one that dosent think is one that just do exactly what there told to do... a solider that will appear once in a 1000 years.

[onyx latch]

What the hell are you babbling about lmao

[solemn portal]

Bro's cooking. Let him do his thing.

[tulip tusk]

solid solders soldering solidly

[civic sundial]

I don't think blindly following orders is a good thing

[tulip tusk]

its a weird issue to discuss cuz diff nations have diff operating methods. like how small a unit can operate on its own and be more dynamic instead of always awaiting orders from higher up. but i was just enlisted navy so what do i know. im free now so no orders for me thanx

[celest heron]

if they're bad they'll eventually derank and you won't match with them.

[celest heron]

depends on what it is cause it can get complicated in the real world.

[spare finch]

Somehow without practice got better at sniping in BTB

58% accuracy in a single round

[keen silo]

It do be like that sometimes. I’m usually like 48% accurate in quick play, but shoot up to 60ish randomly or on “good days”

[celest heron]

those days are fun when I'm just hitting everything. then the next day I can't hit the side of a barn.

[spare finch]

Maybe i’m getting better, maybe I was lucky, who knows

[spare finch]

That perfectly describes Halo Infinite

[tulip tusk]

Did u have any stimulants like caffeine?

[spare finch]

No, but I have chocolate (and some chocolates have a tiny bit of caffeine)

So yesn’t

If that makes any sense

[keen silo]

I’m not a professional in any sense, but that tiny amount of caffeine definitely wouldn’t be enough to like boost accuracy. Odds are you could just be getting better

[spare finch]

Makes sense

[barren root]

Even tiny stuff can make a big difference, especially if you’re not in the right headspace

[tulip tusk]

maybe it was sugar!

sugar + skill

one time i had a starbucks drink it overwhelms brain with sugar i wasnt used to it. driving while sugar hyper isnt very safe

[warped yew]

Imagine needing caffeine lol

[spare finch]

True, i’m mentally insane so there’s that.
Just had a really funny round. I used a launch pad to get to the left side of the map. A second after I used it, a wraith landed on my head and killed me. Hardest I’ve ever laughed in Halo

[warped yew]

Just get a good night's rest for tomorrow

[keen silo]

(bad arbiter impression)
Were it so easy

[spare finch]

Got a 68% accuracy round, I’m def improving

A lot of grav hammer kills in that round too

[keen silo]

Do melee weapons count for accuracy? I assume not since there isn’t a stat for it in Castle Wars for example

[spare finch]

I think grav hammer does

After many good rounds, the game finally got tired of my insanity and went hard on me with a wasp camper 😂

[keen silo]

It does! Which makes sense I guess since it fires a weird projectile thing. Though it shows a 0% accuracy despite 13 kills.

[left snow]

I think people really underestimate how things like stress, fatigue, distractions - affect your performance. Especially with how much your MMR can drift over relatively short periods of time.

It's very hard to maintain peak performance for more than 10-15 minutes.

[warped yew]

Isn't it hard to maintain peak performance too when the game decides you shouldn't win the next game

Oh hey you won 3 times? Lemme put sweats in your match

[keen silo]

Maybe. But it’s easier to get loud and shout at the screen and whine about teammates or the enemy team than admit you’re emotionally struggling.

[warped yew]

Yeah but video games are a good way to vent ngl (when your not completely obliterating your controller lmfao)

[spare finch]

that's interesting

[keen silo]

lol, that’s fair. I think only two games have ever gotten me that levels of upset, but that’s usually because there’s unresolved stressors from life. (Plus Balteus was awful before I figured out the gimmick)

[fossil harbor]

Gamers love this one simple trick

[crystal iron]

I bet Ivy doesn’t even know what Balteus is

[warped yew]

Uhm

[fossil harbor]

I sure don’t

[keen silo]

You’d be surprised at the community overlap of AC6 and Halo.

[warped yew]

Oh it's Armored Core

They need to bring the decal system of that game to Halo

[keen silo]

Agreed. Or even the option of putting emblems on more visible places. Most armor permutations just hide them. It would be nice to have my emblem on a shoulder, or on top whatever chest I have equipped

[warped yew]

That's why I think the AC6 system would best come into play

[barren root]

Once you start moving up the ranks, and getting a stack to play with, the importance of accuracy and headshot percentage decreases. You’ll be prefiring and team shooting a lot as you move up the ranks so don’t worry about accuracy too much. Worry more about positioning and overall game sense

[grim flint]

Hi everyone, in Halo ODST, what bullets does the tilt skull reflect? Asking for a friend, thank you 🙂

[fossil harbor]

Honestly im not sure, its worded weirdly across each game. I can't imagine it works any different than how its supposed to work across all the games.

I dont know why ODST specifically says it deflects bullets, rather than saying resistances and weaknesses are increased

[grim flint]

Gotcha! We were under the impression it did indeed reflect. I'll let her know! Thanks

[fossil harbor]

I guess it would just be any weapon with kinetic bullets as stated. AR, sniper, smg...maybe spiker?

[grim flint]

I'm not a big skull user but isn't tilt the one that improves resistances in general in that flesh also becomes more resistant to plasma?

[fossil harbor]

Yeah, and weaker to bullets. Whereas shields are weaker to plasma and more resistant to bullets

[grim flint]

That’s the one. Emma says thanks! And so do I hahah, I was thinking shields literally bouncing off bullets weren’t a thing 🤔

[dusky hazel]

I'll send a link https://youtu.be/og2unLDWNHg?si=dtzhDBF9CI7C3diS

[rocky oasis]

thanks @grim flint 🥰

[sullen kiln]

🥸

[rocky oasis]

i mean yeah obviously lol what would you know

[ruby lake]

hmmm

i dont know what to expect for halo anymore

a new game??

[keen silo]

Eventually yeah.

Who knows what the more immediate plan is for Halo Infinite though.

[tulip tusk]

idk man just...maybe next game

[white birch]

More armor, presumably
They havent said anything about cutting support so presumably we're getting more armor and game modes in the future.

[tulip tusk]

😔

[celest heron]

well we just got action sack

[edgy forum]

Having trouble finding a match for Action Sack

[edgy forum]

Turn that frown upside down!

Ah okay I saw the support post

[celest heron]

there's currently mm errors so could be related to that.

[edgy forum]

I guess too many people hopping on lol they want that Action Sack

[unreal knot]

https://x.com/halosupport/status/1881772129051697427?s=46

[sturdy kernel]

#halo-support-news

[ruby lake]

idk why should i

[quick girder]

Because of the old partnership with halo and fornite master cheif can do the miku dance

[edgy forum]

It’s bad being always pessimistic and rather resentful when you personally can do something about your mentality towards videos games today. Say like exercise or start a new hobby then come back to Halo every once in awhile or something. Idk I’m not a mental counselor but I feel gamers should stop being this mentaltude and just enjoy having fun.

[fossil harbor]

videogames hit so good after a good workout

[dense mural]

anyone else have the "not enough similar players to estimate wait time" message on Action sack?

[vernal crystal]

You know what would be a cool feature? Being able to use previous lobby screen backgrounds, that would be kinda neat.

[sturdy kernel]

#halo-support-news

[solemn gazelle]

Reach servers so dead😢

[civic sundial]

Well yeah, 360 Reach's servers were turned off. Nobody's playing that game online anymore

[solemn gazelle]

For reals, I meant mcc reach servers tho, shoulda clarified dx

[glacial tartan]

I think there's a very fair argument for Reach being the most popular game on MCC right now, in what way is it dead

(I will immediately caveat - not ranked, obv)

[solemn portal]

Halo 3 is by far the most popular game on MCC matchmaking. The hell you talking about?

[steady plover]

This server is amazing
They support Craig love

[coarse dagger]

[steady plover]

Craig is life

[glacial tartan]

I am not sure thats true (I recorded my games on random across several days up to a few hundred games and Reach was most popular) but also I didnt say just matchmaking. CGB is overwhelmingly reach most of the time lol

[solemn portal]

That's because of Forgeworld.

[glacial tartan]

Sure. This is part of a slice of that data, you can see its roughly similar (and obv its just anecdotal) https://i.imgur.com/GlDvcMh.png

[fossil harbor]

Matchmaking - 3

Customs - Reach

[zealous panther]

I played halo 2 uncut and I must say that I think I love it even more then halo 2 original.

[rocky oasis]

has anyone had a proper firefight with about 8 people some of which play elites??

i set up a casual lobby the other day and it was really fun. elites driving forklifts, having energy dules with humans, so funny

especially when you filter out all the sweats its a really good time

[tulip tusk]

i played it couple days ago in cgb was pretty cool

[rocky oasis]

wait how many days ago?

i doubt it but we mightve been in the same lobby!

was the lobby called casual ffight or something?

[solemn gazelle]

Just this evening I hopped on and it would take like 25 mins to find a match ToT. I'm sure it will be strong again later on when the americans hop on

[rocky oasis]

what mode? it took me seconds to find slayer the other day

[solemn gazelle]

I did btb which is usually hard to get a game but also just did 4v4 and it still took a while

But more will hop on later [:

[rocky oasis]

yeah btb and anything comp is a no no, if you want those you generally want to do cgb

[solemn portal]

BTB is a crapshoot if you ain't playing American primetime hours.

[solemn gazelle]

For realsies

I hate how it picks the same 5 dlc maps ToT

[solemn portal]

The DLC maps are really bad. And a lot of the Forgeworld variants from the Xbox 360 days are gone.

[rocky oasis]

every time i get that covenant map i want to die painfully

idk if its dlc though

[solemn gazelle]

I WISH they kept map voting

[rocky oasis]

nah thats too casual for 343 lol

[solemn gazelle]

Without a jetpack it's almost unplayable ToT

For reals

[rocky oasis]

reach is still my fave though! sometimes anyway. when bloom rng gets annoying i like to hop on h3 instead 🙌

[tulip tusk]

hmm im not sure name but i remember it was on the Beach head and Corvette maps!

[edgy forum]

After trying the new Action Sack game modes, my top 5 listed from least to more liked are:
5 -> Hex a gone (Reminds me of too much Fall Guys and how much that game is insufferable)
4 -> Speedball (Too fast for Sonic)
3- > Maze Craze (I like the suprise in it)
2 -> Duck Hunt (Classic)
1 -> Goose Halo (or rather just Halo, my favorite and I’m very good at)

I encourage Halo Studios to keep putting in more casual/party modes for the general audience that just wants to have fun rather than be competitive/ranked.

[rocky oasis]

we didnt do those! or at least before i left

[ruby lake]

excuse me everyone
should i give infinite another try?

i havent played it in a long while

[frosty condor]

Yes

[rocky oasis]

may as well! not my thing but you do you

[warped yew]

They need to bring back the mission concept of AI companions. That's what I called them atleast

Like in Halo 2, The Arbiter, you had a squad of Spec Op elites and grunts who would stick with you a good bit of the mission

I know Halo 5 did the same thing, but it really gets old when it's the same 3 people again and again

[rocky oasis]

id like to see that in firefight but in campaign i honestly dont like it that much… remember in reach?! the squad just gets in your way and does nothing

[fossil harbor]

I like how they gave you squad names on the HUD as if they weren't going to die 5 minutes later

[warped yew]

Maybe just give your troops good AI

Halo 2 had the best out of it because it had happened alot

You also would have equipped your allies with guns to fit the situation

[warped yew]

That was Reach what do you expect. Elites were butchered in that game

1 hit KO melee that was unavoidable. Spongey ranks (or maybe that was your guns idk)

[solemn portal]

The Reach marine Ai was made bad on purpose. It wasn't incompetence of Bungie's part, which is even more baffling.
It seems like Bungie intended to make marines props rather than resources like in the previous games.

[warped yew]

Marines and other allies should be a way to further spice up the encounter

Like have a system depending on the gun your ally has. They will stay back and find a vantage point with a sniper. They'll stay on the front lines with close quarter weapons

(Ngl. If there was a shield type item in the next game, having a squad of shielded marines to hide behind would be funny and badass

[keen silo]

That would be nice ;-;
The amount of times I’ve seen a rocket marine rush the front lines and immediately blow herself up is nuts

[warped yew]

They should also do the same for vehicles too ig. I'm not sure if Infinite did it but I remember getting very frustrated in Halo 2 and Halo 3 when my rocket allies would not get in the passenger seat

[fossil harbor]

Gee they must have had the same idea with Noble Team because they dont do jack either

[thorn raven]

a suggestion i have for action sack: move the Purple Reign/Kong Slayer/Mini Slayer to the Action Sack Playlist

i feel like they fit, and many of them are kinda dead in quick play currently

[lusty wraith]

I mean the game has to have SOME challenge, they do as much as they should be doing

[fossil harbor]

oh I totally agree

they're invincible which is more than enough

[warped yew]

I can understand the AI debuff on a teammate that could literally play the game for you

[keen silo]

Did the recent playlist update reset some of your matchmaking preferences? I got queued in a Gruntpocalypse match despite specifically forbidding that one

[shadow turret]

Did you deselect modes again after the FF playlist merge?

[keen silo]

Ohhhh, that’s probably what it was then. I did not deselect stuff

[rocky oasis]

elites? i was talking about noble team

afaik i dont know of a game that does elites better

in theory i should like the halo 4 elites as afaik theyre mostly copypastes of reaches but im quite indifferent to them

they dont legitimately scare me like they do in reach!

[rocky oasis]

then why have them ;.;

i did a bit for a video once where on pillar of autumn i went afk for about 20 minutes and came back, emile killed like 2 enemies 😭

[analog salmon]

4 has Reach AI but broken

i dont love Reach AI but it somehow regressed in 4

it feels like they turned down the elite's aggression to the point they dont feel like elites anymore

and gave them very predictable behaviour

[keen silo]

That doesn’t surprise me lol. The way Emile pretends that his shotgun is a sniper is so annoying

[analog salmon]

bro just thinks he has the CE shotgun

he hasnt come to terms with the nerf

after playing CE, using the shotty just makes me sad

[fossil harbor]

Those models were unfortunately all on the PoA

[analog salmon]

damn that's why humanity lost the battle of Reach

[wooden briar]

aiming down 4x/8x scope on a shotgun smh

[rocky oasis]

the first thing i heard when i got back over the comms was “lucky hit”? bish why are you using your comms to say that 😭

[rocky oasis]

was it that good? i never used it much

all i know is it has much more ammo in a mag

[analog salmon]

Yah it’s the most satisfying shotgun in a halo campaign by a decent margin imo

I will give halo 5’s shotty some credit tho

[rocky oasis]

wasnt 5s just 4s with nicer textures lol

[analog salmon]

I mean gameplay wise

[rocky oasis]

i remember 2s being fun! at least 2a

oh fair. i dont remember a difference

[analog salmon]

Tbh I don’t remember too well

I just know playing halo 5 campaign the shotty felt the strongest it’s been since probs CE

[rocky oasis]

probably due at least in part to the ability to dash into their face then dash out lol

[civic sundial]

Halo 5's shotgun was a beast

And then you had the variants which were monsters, especially the tier 2 variant

[rocky oasis]

i guess ill be able to confirm when it comes to pc 🥱

[civic sundial]

Like, there were no downsides to using a Blaze of Glory

[rocky oasis]

all i remember is wanting dares armour and never getting it lol

[civic sundial]

I can't think of a time where this thing ever failed me

[civic sundial]

Dare's armour isn't in Halo 5. You can attempt to recreate it using a Recon helmet and the Nightfall body but it's not 1 to 1

[rocky oasis]

whos dare? because i know the one im thinking of is for a fact

[analog salmon]

oni officer from odst

[rocky oasis]

unironically 5 nightfall was gorgeous haha

[rocky oasis]

ohhh. no i mean uhh

red lady

[analog salmon]

i forgot her name too

[civic sundial]

Vale

[rocky oasis]

xdd

[rocky oasis]

i think yes! i gambled many times for naught 😪

[civic sundial]

Her armour is obtainable in Halo 5

[rocky oasis]

i know 😊

[keen silo]

Weapons like this are the reason there is only one set of footprints on the beach

[fossil harbor]

Blaze of glory

Oops, that’s what I get for skipping the conversation

[rocky oasis]

[civic sundial]

Those footprints were mine... Everyone else disintegrated at my hands

[fossil harbor]

The sound it makes 😮‍💨👌

[civic sundial]

It was fantastic

Another weapon that Halo 5 gave us that was fantastic, The Answer

[fossil harbor]

thump thump thump

just hearing that thing across the battlefield

[civic sundial]

It was quite literally the answer to everything

[keen silo]

I miss a lot of the weapon variants dearly. Infinite variants mostly being a white or yellow re-color was rather disappointing

[civic sundial]

I don't mind those colours for some of them, like the Bulldog or the Stalker Rifle, but others definitely suffer from how materials are handled in Infinite

Like, the system is really neat, but there are some things that can't be done that can be with the older system in Halo 5

But that's a whole lengthy game development rant that I don't want to go into right now

[fossil harbor]

totally agree, but im glad they exist at all. I think they definitely wanted to keep them more balanced, because lets be honest most of the tier 3 req variants aren't exactly made with balance in mind I feel

[civic sundial]

I think my big issue with a bunch of the Infinite variants is that they just feel like either;

1. The same weapon but with an adjusted fire rate, ammo and damage (Such as BR Breacher, Striker Sidekick)
2. The exact same weapon but better and really what the base weapon should've been (Such as the SPNKr Tracker, Pursuit Hydra)
3. So similar that I can barely tell it's different (Backdraft Cindershot and pre rework Ravager Rebound)
4. The same weapon but worse (Impact Commando)
5. Would've been more interesting if it was its own weapon (Flexfire S7)

And sure, plenty of Halo 5 variants fell into that first category, but those were normally tier one variants, like the Sorrow of Teash (Which they could've just made a standard blue Plasma Rifle but that's just me), whereas the tier 2 variants all tried something more interesting, like The Answer's explosive ammo, the Dying Star's delayed explosive rounds or the Scale of Soirapt's unique melee properties

[fossil harbor]

I don’t even remember what the backdraft cindershot does 😂

[civic sundial]

I have no clue either

At least with the Scatterbound Heatwave, it's a fun cousin of the Didact's Signet from Halo 5, since they both do the same thing

Something something, that one scene from The Suicide Squad with Bloodsport saying Peacemaker does everything he does

[fossil harbor]

Totally forgot the heatwave had a variant as well

[civic sundial]

See I didn't but I feel like I'm the only one who knows about how it even works

[keen silo]

The main projectile explodes and then makes smaller additional projectiles (that also explode)

Great for narrow hallways and trick shots

[fossil harbor]

I personally disagree on the spnkr tho, I think that one is fine as is, it shouldn’t track Spartans on foot as the default

[civic sundial]

Oh I'd definitely remove the SPNKr Tracker's ability to lock onto infantry

[fossil harbor]

But that’s why the variant exists

[civic sundial]

I just don't think that's needed

But the standard SPNKr is just so terrible against aerial targets because of the lack of tracking for the projectile

[fossil harbor]

Fair enough, but don’t you think there enough AA weapons in the game?

[civic sundial]

At least in Halo 5, we got stuff like Ad Victoriam which was a unique take on a rocket launcher

[civic sundial]

Sure there's the shock weapons, rocket hog and the Hydra but half the time I don't see people even bothering with those against Banshees and Wasps

And sure you could attempt a lucky shot with a Skewer, most people ain't pulling off that shot

[fossil harbor]

Really? I almost always get a free aerial kill with the skewer

Harder with the wasp sure but the banshee is an easy target

[civic sundial]

I'm not exactly known for my skills with long range precision

Like, I'm Church with the sniper rifle in Red Vs Blue

[fossil harbor]

And the sniper obliterates banshees and wasps as well

I personally struggle with the skewer variant

The trajectory always messes me up

[civic sundial]

Isn't it the same projectile speed as the normal one?

[fossil harbor]

It has significantly more drop

Not sure about the speed

[civic sundial]

Ah

[empty citrus]

Man I hope we get the falcon this year

[radiant sundial]

ngl I wanna see the revenant in infinite

we need more squad vehicles!!!

also, BTB vehicles, where its Severely stressed that it is a vehicle based mode

[shadow turret]

But Rev already plays Infinite

[civic sundial]

For everyone else's detriment

Honestly though, give us the Spectre back, that thing deserves better than to be trapped in only Halo 2

[keen silo]

Forget the Revenant or Specter, give us the Jackrabbit or Vampire.

[rocky oasis]

never even heard of those 😭

[empty citrus]

Hopin this happens too. We need a lot more weapons and vehicles in the game in general. I want jetpacks too but I think thats asking too much

[civic sundial]

Jetpacks are a pain to balance around and the grapple does everything it does but better

[rocky oasis]

bruhhhh who cares about balance add the jetpack

[civic sundial]

As a level designer, jetpacks are a nightmare for me

At least with the grapple, it's not just a simple "You fly over everything" type situation

[rocky oasis]

i never found the jetpack op, i always sprint

[pale spire]

I never really used the suit powers in Reach

[analog salmon]

next mainline game gotta go all out on vehicles. would be so cool to see stuff return from the HW games

[rocky oasis]

i want wasp

[empty citrus]

They could make it like a jump pack. Like the brutes have

Also where's the spiker?

[keen silo]

I feel like the Spiker and Mauler got fused into the Mangler. It does a bit of both and frankly I’m happier for it

[civic sundial]

There's a difference between being unbalanced and outright breaking the balance. The jetpack makes it extremely easy for players to just not engage with the environment. At least with the grapple, it still requires the environment to function, since it needs to latch onto something. Plus, unlike Reach, where you could spawn with a jetpack in a bunch of modes, the grapple is a pickup in the majority of modes

I'm not thinking about this from purely a competitive perspective

I'm talking about this from the perspective of a level designer

[solemn portal]

The jetpack was bad. Not "it sucks" bad, but "it breaks maps" bad. Good thing it didn't come back.

[civic sundial]

Exactly this

There is. You're better off with something that's in the "It sucks to use" bad category than in the "You can literally just not engage with the level design" bad

[tulip tusk]

i rlly like elite vs elite invasions in reach mcc

[civic sundial]

That's swapping weapon projectiles with another weapon that already exists

And gravity settings are there for custom games since it's a setting on the player characters. You don't design a first person shooter game based around someone recreating Duck Hunt or Jenga in the custom map modes

[tulip tusk]

hes just saying jetpack can only be for custom games as well. doesnt need to be in competitive. more options like adding fun vehicles like longsword wont be in competitive

[civic sundial]

Gravity doesn't require making an entirely new set of assets

Like, you'd need to make a jetpack model, get sounds effects, visual effects, etc

And animations too

[tulip tusk]

next halo should have lot of that

[fossil harbor]

god I hope to never see the jetpack in a halo again

[tulip tusk]

one funny thing was that forerunner turret in halo 3

its kind of fun to use and fires blue laser

[civic sundial]

Again, it seems you are not understanding what I'm saying. Having a jetpack only exist for custom games would be a waste. The reason it's not been in a Halo since Halo 4 is because it is a nightmare to design around most the time. Especially in multiplayer if players can just spawn in with one, which was true in both Reach and 4. It's lack of inclusion isn't because they wanted to reduce sandbox items

While I do agree that it would be nice to have more weapons, vehicles and equipment, the lack of a jetpack is for the best

[tulip tusk]

i dont like the waste idea bc then they will never add fun stuff like longswords, pelicans, etc and more special vehicles n weapons

[rocky oasis]

so true.

[fossil harbor]

because the majority of the playerbase plays matchmaking

[civic sundial]

Custom games is not the main selling point of Halo, never has been

[tulip tusk]

eh games r going to be so boring if thats case

[civic sundial]

See, I don't need useable Longswords in Halo

[tulip tusk]

mm is old man way of playing

[rocky oasis]

thats like saying theres no point in weapon varients because the majority doesnt play warzone 😅

[fossil harbor]

I would argue the exact opposite lmao

[civic sundial]

Those playlists aren't there on launch for any Halo game and don't normally keep the same number of players as core modes like Slayer does

[solemn portal]

You'll take my broken matchmaking from my cold dead hands.

||Player hosted servers are older than matchmaking though.||

[civic sundial]

Being fun doesn't make them the big thing that draws in people to try out the game

[fossil harbor]

the warzone variants were present in more than just warzone

[civic sundial]

Like, I don't think anyone got into Halo because they saw someone playing Duck Hunt or Castle Wars

[rocky oasis]

and so could a jetpack!

[celest heron]

if they add one thing, then when does it end? they added jetpack, but what about armor lock, promethean vision, evade, etc etc..

[fossil harbor]

they barely added 2 weapons to infinite and yall want exclusive mechanics for custom games

[civic sundial]

Aye, the weapon variants showed up in campaign and in matchmaking modes

[tulip tusk]

the old man description is morso about the massive difference in matchmaking content vs customs content. mm is very plain, its dull and repetitive, but just boring mainstream. its like still playing mcc matchmaking while the cgb content is so much better

[civic sundial]

I think if a PlayStation fan was shown someone playing Fat Kid, they'd be wondering what Master Chief has to do with the slow moving zombie that's chasing other players

[fossil harbor]

keep dreaming

[solemn portal]

I disagree. The CGB is legitimately full of absolute garbage. Fine for people who like it, but I just wanna play 4v4 on a vanilla map, thank you very much.

[civic sundial]

The blessing and the curse with letting players make custom maps in games is that you're gonna see both the best and the worst of people's imaginations. Halo 3's Forge art showed us this

[fossil harbor]

the forge art was peak tho

😉

[civic sundial]

There was plenty of cursed things made using Forge art... I have sadly been scarred by it

Have you seen the lineup of games on PlayStation? The majority of them are story driven. Mindless fun is not what people who own a PlayStation care about

[solemn portal]

And MCC needs a CGB for mods fast. Let people roll the dice, but it would make it easier to play on modded maps.

[fossil harbor]

would kill to play those custom map packs in CGB

[solemn portal]

The most popular games on Playstation aren't exclusives. They are generic multiplat multiplayer games.

[celest heron]

good thing halo has plenty of story. custom games would be a bonus.

[civic sundial]

Exactly

Like, no Halo game has ever had a marketing campaign focused around the custom games

Sure there are trailers that mention the custom games, but it's not the big selling point in any of the trailers

[rocky oasis]

halocord trying their hardest to justify not adding content lol

[civic sundial]

I have a vendetta against jetpacks due to being a level designer

[rocky oasis]

zzzzzzz 🥱

[civic sundial]

But also it'd be dumb to have it exist just for custom games

[rocky oasis]

strongest anti content fan lol

[tulip tusk]

can at least the level of stuff from warzone to added at least it had decent level of stuff

stuff good

i feel like cuz of engine choice next game should have obscene amount of stuff not just so limited to comp halo

[celest heron]

adding stuff to campaign would likely require a lot of qa and redoing stuff.

oh, I missed that.

[civic sundial]

The equipment that's multiplayer exclusive isn't relegated to just custom games. You can pick up repulsers, regen fields and translocators on multiple maps in matchmaking

Same with the Bandit and MA5K, those are in matchmaking modes

[rocky oasis]

i know it sounds silly but does anyone have any rocket launcher tips? i never take it because i feel like i cant use it very well and would rather use old reliables

and then die to the guy that gets it 🤣😵

[solemn portal]

Aim at the ground or the walls around your target.

[keen silo]

Yeah, aiming around or predicting where the target will go next is usually good. The damage hit box is a little bigger than you’d think, so even if you miss odds are you’ll still break shields

[rocky oasis]

awesome, ty guys, when someone jumps im like guess i cant use the rocket now

[solemn portal]

Not really. You most likely can predict where they land. Also, remember to switch to your precision weapon if a rocket doesn't fully do the job.

[rocky oasis]

i get you. thanks a lot!

also, what is the spiker for? it seems to just be a worse brute plasma rifle

like in every way?

[solemn portal]

Errh...
The spiker had a hard life...

[rocky oasis]

oh?

[solemn portal]

It's bad.
The bayonet is for show. Use something else, really.

[rocky oasis]

thats a shame, itd be cool if it did bonus melee damage…

same with the grenade one. 2 tap

[solemn portal]

Well, it does a womping 2 more damage over regular melee attacks. The brute shot on the other hand does 30 20 more damage....

[rocky oasis]

oh the brute shot actually does do more melee?

[solemn portal]

Yep, same for the Sentinel Beam, for some reason.
The Brute Shot is pretty good if you shoot someone once and then immediately follow with a melee attack.

[rocky oasis]

yeah thats what i was thinking though i never really see it often enough to try the combo out. how much is 2 damage in halos terms?

idk how much health people have

[solemn portal]

70 shield, 45 health in Halo 3.

[rocky oasis]

yowza lol

why? 🥲 why did they make it so bad?

[solemn portal]

The Mauler has the same bonus as the Spiker, but it's actually good.

[rocky oasis]

the mauler has a melee bonus too? 😭

[solemn portal]

Regarding why it's bad. Who knows? Bungie has a love-hate relationship with dual wield weapons.

[rocky oasis]

but the mauler is dw too?

and it isnt even much worse than a shotgun

[solemn portal]

Yep. It can't kill a target in a single shot (unlike the Shotgun), but you can easily defeat someone by following it up with a melee attack.

[rocky oasis]

weird.

is it any better in reach or odst?

[solemn portal]

The Mauler is the same in ODST. In Reach, it is absent. The Spiker on the other hand got an indirect nerf in Reach (more player health, no damage buff).

[rocky oasis]

i mean the spiker yeah

[rocky oasis]

oh i see. what the hell bungie lol

[solemn portal]

Reach has a lot of "what the hell bungie"s.

[rocky oasis]

i was just using it in odst ff and realised i was killing quicker with just the plasma rifle lol

[solemn portal]

The Spiker is "fine" in ODST. Well, it's better than nothing.

[rocky oasis]

fair

ty for your detailed explanation!

[flat delta]

yall think we will ever see forerunners again

[solemn portal]

I see Forerunners every time I play Halo though...

[fossil harbor]

ya.

[flat delta]

ngl idk how to feel

on one hand I do like the forerunners being seperate as a concept but on the other I feel like it makes the story so much better (covenant killing their own gods)

[solemn portal]

I reject the mad ramblings of Frankie and embrace the Bungie plan.

[flat delta]

even as a plot device I feel like it would’ve been much better but we got what we got at the end of the day

[warped yew]

Halo CE hands down imo

[edgy forum]

Not interested in the Forerunner lore, however, I do interest in the Didact’s background

[flat delta]

Ngl his story is sad

All his sons got slaughtered in the human forerunner war and he saw all them die

[edgy forum]

I think what I sympathize the most is his unintentional consequences of being trapped because he objected against the firing of the Halo rings to the Flood and his accomplices disagreed hard. Leading to his madness and imprisonment.

[flat delta]

Tbh I don’t think forerunners should come back

They literally failed their main objective of their punishment was complete annihilation due to shame

I mean some did survive but 99.9% died

[flat delta]

Ngl I think the point where he actually went crazy was when he spoke to the primordial

The primordial was literally trolling them the entire time

[edgy forum]

Oh yeah forgot the Primordial

[flat delta]

what if the true reasons the precursors killed themselves was to avoid becoming apart of the flood (if the flood was indeed precursors seeking revenge in some distorted way)

[dusky hazel]

Nice discuese

[flat delta]

personally I think the precursors created humans and forerunners/other species to literally feed on them (since many human scientists killed themselves after the primordial told them what the true purpose of the flood was/how it worked)

[tulip tusk]

food good

[rocky oasis]

oh? how?

i remember them being good but not reach good

[warped yew]

They're the most agile and exileraiitng to fight as far I can remember

They're also fair unlike Reach Elites lmao and you don't have overly spongey ranks

[rocky oasis]

i definitely dont remember them being more agile than reach ones lol

[fossil harbor]

they say wort wort wort

[rocky oasis]

true!

[warped yew]

I didn't say that

[fossil harbor]

thats all I really need

[rocky oasis]

what did you mean by most agile then?

[warped yew]

Oh damn I did say that

Hold up lemme rephrase

[fossil harbor]

https://youtu.be/KniK8O7CtZ8?si=USqB59rDXico-lNp

[rocky oasis]

take your time. its not like my cat just spilled water all over me my bed and my electronics while i was sleeping so im pretty awake atm lol

[warped yew]

I just find CE elites most fun to fight because:

1. They have very recognizable ranks unlike the more muted colors of later games
2. They are pretty fair with a dodgable but still punishing melee.
3. You don't have overly spongey ranks

Reach Elites are like good but like when your facing a general and a spartan laser doesn't do anything to it, somethings off

Also they have a undodgable melee that does way too much damage

[rocky oasis]

generals are pretty rare though right? and still fear the noob one two

[warped yew]

Idk I cant explain why I feel this way about CE elites.

It's just the way it is ig

[rocky oasis]

i think elites were buffed a lot in general to try and make the non chief spartans feel much more threatened by them and it worked. even in heroic i find them really scary opponents

ive never really been afraid of any enemy lol

[warped yew]

Yeah well Halo CE actually has a good heroic and legendary difficulty. Reach is just straight up unfair

[rocky oasis]

fair!

[fossil harbor]

as they should be imo

[warped yew]

I mean Halo 2 legendary Jackals are pretty dangerous enemies for most first timers but they aren't respected because of their difficulty

[rocky oasis]

i suppose a lot of it is opinion. i consider the reach elites and its difficulty way up there in reasons why its my favourite halo!

i find reach astronomically easier than ce too funny enough.

[rocky oasis]

yeah i think the same applies to elites. respect them as formidable opponents and youll make it out alive… most of the time

[rocky oasis]

i think so yeah. i love them so much, terrifying presences

[warped yew]

In my eyes basically. A bad heroic and legendary difficulty is where you do these things.

Fighting in CQC is very much discouraged.
You only use like a tenth of the actual sandbox.
You hang back most of the time because CQC is pretty much a death sentence.
You don't make your enemy play smarter, you just give them a unfair damage buff

[rocky oasis]

isnt that every halo lol

also they definitely play smarter in reach!

[warped yew]

Halo CE if you actually come prepared for a encounter

[rocky oasis]

with noob combo? xd

[warped yew]

Bruh

Maybe I'm just coping because I played a Halo mod that further expands on the perfect legendary and heroic difficulty and I know Halo studios will never do that

[rocky oasis]

yeah modded tends to be better than vanilla in almost every circumstance lol. im talking about the games in their vanilla states

[fossil harbor]

I think they perfectly displayed the confidence and ruthlessness the Covenant were willing to act to get what they wanted, it really set the tone

[warped yew]

Ngl imo, Halo CE came very close to it. You had to be smart and CQC actually was a good option regardless of the noob combo

[rocky oasis]

exactly. especially at the end with how many of them come to hunt you down, almost as a vendetta. ylu stand no chance. i cry every time

[fossil harbor]

There'll be another time...

[rocky oasis]

ive ever had a problem with cqb in reach personally.

[warped yew]

Ok do it without the noob combo

[rocky oasis]

a lot of its just opinion

[rocky oasis]

frequently! i dont even really use it that much as i like human weapons aesthetically

[warped yew]

I just hate Reach to death

[rocky oasis]

thats okay!

its easily my favourite by a long shot

[warped yew]

Bloom. . .

[fossil harbor]

Not my favorite halo but probably my favorite halo OST ngl

[warped yew]

The redundant sandbox. . .

Halo 2 is my favorite OST

[rocky oasis]

i prefer redundancy over scarcity lol

and bloom is annoying yeah but only in multiplayer

[fossil harbor]

2nd fav

[rocky oasis]

3rd? 3 and 4 are tied at 2nd for me for different reasons

[warped yew]

Tbf, when you have guns that downright invalid another gun because it's straight up better, More is less

I mean what's the point of saying a Carbine and BR are different when they both do the same thing

[fossil harbor]

god I love halo 4's ost. Solace and Haven are my favorites off that one

[rocky oasis]

tbf, it depends on someones opinion, and i just dont share yours lol

[rocky oasis]

such a good ost!

[warped yew]

I mean it isn't opinion on that. A gun doing the exact same thing as a gun isn't subjective

[rocky oasis]

for sure!

[warped yew]

The Focus Rifle just doesn't do enough damage and that's fact

[rocky oasis]

though a carbines more of a dmr than br haha

[rocky oasis]

its one of my favourite weapons, its a suppression weapon!

could probably do with a teeny buff though

[warped yew]

Yeah but in Halo 2. You had a precision gun and then a alien precision gun. Function wise, they're the same.

Same thing with the DMR

[rocky oasis]

variety is the spice of life 😊 i suppose you dont share that view, and thats completely fine.

[warped yew]

No what I'm saying is there is no variety because of said redundancy???

There's no variety in the BR and Carbine thing I just said

[rocky oasis]

3 dmrs is more dmrs than 1!

[rocky oasis]

burst vs single!

[fossil harbor]

nah you wildin for that one

[warped yew]

Function wise, it's a precision gun. A BR does the same thing as a Carbine

[rocky oasis]

yeah i dont really know what theyre trying to say haha i think theyre just trying to make their opinion fact

[warped yew]

The Carbine doesn't even have a niche of taking down shields faster

[rocky oasis]

so 2 dmrs? 😵

or brs, i suppose.

[warped yew]

Bruh. How does burst or single fire actually change how your gun functions? You still use both of them for the same thing

[rocky oasis]

one burst fires 3 bullets, the other 1!

[warped yew]

Yeah but how does that change up encounters.

[rocky oasis]

brs have a bit of an advantage imo in that they have a 3 burst which can make headshots more consistent

[fossil harbor]

okay but whats the issue of them serving the same purpose. one is a covenant version that performs slightly different from its UNSC counterpart. they dont have to be wildly different

[rocky oasis]

they only need to land 1 too

[warped yew]

So the BR is just an easier and better version of the Carbine

[rocky oasis]

yeah theyre just trying to say redundancy is bad when its an opinion lol

[fossil harbor]

carbine is also kinda inaccurate, has weird spread

[rocky oasis]

yeah i never liked carbine haha

i like it in odst though

[fossil harbor]

so?

[warped yew]

So like why would I ever pick up a Carbine

[rocky oasis]

there is no so lol if you like variety

[rocky oasis]

do you already have a br?

[warped yew]

Yeah I actually like variety lol

[fossil harbor]

because the BR isnt always available in campaign?

[rocky oasis]

hm?

i didnt see it, you deleted it sorry

[warped yew]

Yeah so I'm just getting a worst version of another gun

[fossil harbor]

shucks

[warped yew]

My bad I replied to the wrong comment :p

[rocky oasis]

sure! which you can replace as soon as possible

[fossil harbor]

you say you dont want redundancy yet you complain that the covenant weapon you claim is identical is actually worse

[rocky oasis]

you seem to have a different opinion of what variety is, and thats alright.

[warped yew]

You said that. You said it has spread and is inaccurate

Which is bad for a precision weapon

[fossil harbor]

I mean you seemed to follow along with that idea so

[warped yew]

No I've just been saying functions wise, it's the same gun

[rocky oasis]

i do have to ask since im genuinely unsure, you do know this is all just opinion and personal preference right @warped yew?
i dont have to justify the minute differences between the carbine, light rifle, dmr and br. i appreciate their existence on the basis of variety

[warped yew]

Yeah but that isn't really opinion. If a gun hypothetically does the same thing as a another gun and it doesn't change up the encounters, that's not really variety

[fossil harbor]

cool gun is cool

[rocky oasis]

so your objectively correct? lol

[fossil harbor]

they quite literally are not the same weapons, no matter how you put it. its still variety.

[rocky oasis]

the clues in the name lol

[warped yew]

How would I use a BR differently than a Carbine in the same situation

[rocky oasis]

could you answer this is that ok?

[warped yew]

Yeah so tell me how a gun doing the same thing as another gun is an opinion

[fossil harbor]

thats just not true

[rocky oasis]

your well poisoning in a healthy discussion about why we like different guns, and i dont appreciate it. thanks for the chat though ivy! ill be disengaging now.

[warped yew]

Ok

I don't think I said anything remotely offensive but ok

[rocky oasis]

not offensive, just well poisoning. were just having a nice discussion and it feels toxic when people start doing that 😊

@fossil harbor whats your favourite precision gun?! mine might be the light rifle

[fossil harbor]

depends on the game tbh

its boring but its gotta be the BR

[rocky oasis]

id really liked the br in reach but it probably wouldve been much better

[rocky oasis]

fair! i always said dmr but the br has grown on me a lot, especially in 3

[fossil harbor]

I used the BR over the DMR in halo 4 because I felt like I was able to secure headshots easier

[rocky oasis]

yeah i find the 3 burst to be a pretty consistent kill

in 4 its a toss up really because i also like the dmrs reliability. no chance to miss with 5 bullets instead of 15 lol

[fossil harbor]

did you play h5?

[keen silo]

Light Rifle hype! Such a solid weapon

[rocky oasis]

i did! its been too long though and i cant anymore since they never put it on pc.

[fossil harbor]

the DMR in that game is buttery smooth, both in aesthetics and performance

[rocky oasis]

the sound design in halo 4 lives rent free in my head 🫠

[crystal iron]

There was a BR in reach?

[keen silo]

H4 had very good sound design. The Knight scream still haunts me

[rocky oasis]

p-t-t, p-t-t, p-t-t, kchow, kchow, kchow

[rocky oasis]

i wish there was!

[crystal iron]

Literally Lighting McQueen?

[rocky oasis]

who the car? 😭

[crystal iron]

Lowkey you’re kinda right. I actually can’t think of a situation where a BR would be used differently than a Carbine

[fossil harbor]

People hate on the storm covenant for valid reasons but I always loved the grunt alien speak. Still goofy af

[rocky oasis]

its generally better for cqb i think. more general purpose

[crystal iron]

How?

[rocky oasis]

burst!

[crystal iron]

A Carbine is already great for CQC??

[rocky oasis]

requires less precision and more tracking

[rocky oasis]

yeah true. i guess its just preference, i like brs in cqb and rarely use carbine. only really in odst firefight

cqb dmr fights feel awkward af lol

in 3 with brs they feel awesome

[crystal iron]

What can I say ig. The Carbine’s use was really to give the covenant a precision gun

[keen silo]

BRs are just solid weapons and well rounded. It definitely takes priority over the Carbine, but ideally I will be running both

[rocky oasis]

exactly! and i think it workes great as that

[crystal iron]

lol it’s funny because beyond, that Carbine still never got a real niche after Halo 2

[rocky oasis]

*and an excuse for more available precision weapons 😎

[crystal iron]

It will always be the lesser version of the BR and I hate that

[rocky oasis]

implying it had one in 2?

[fossil harbor]

with the amount of precision weapons in Infinite, it honestly makes sense why the carbine isn't present

[crystal iron]

Oh no my bad, it never had one

[crystal iron]

The Carbine is there in the form of the Stalker Rifle. Omg a unique gun from the Br done right!!!

[rocky oasis]

i did use it in a fiesta match yesterday and realised i do like its green beam. it helps me identify hits and misses.

[fossil harbor]

i fw the stalker rifle hard

[rocky oasis]

the br has a lot of guess work for me.

[crystal iron]

Yeah because 343 actually decided to not make the sandbox redundant lmao

Get rid of the guns that absolutely did not real different thing and bring some of them back in a different form with an actual unique function. W 343

[rocky oasis]

i feel like theyre slowly sliding into that territory as they add the dmr and commando but i dont mind one bit.

[crystal iron]

The commando is supposed to bridge automatic and precision guns which is a unique thing in its sandbox, but I don’t find joy in using it

The Bandit feels like a precision gun better suited for CQC but I have to play again to make sure

And then EVO is just a lazy variant lmao

[rocky oasis]

pistol? 😵‍💫

[keen silo]

The Commando actively removes my joy. I happily drop that from my inventory the moment I find any type of pistol

[rocky oasis]

isnt it just better than the ar?

i found it to be in a brief 1v1 earlier anyway. i dont play infinite.

[crystal iron]

The pistol serves as a utility gun

[fossil harbor]

mfw I run up to a weapon pod and its a commando

[rocky oasis]

i dont think i know what makes the pistol utility instead of just good for cqb

[obtuse tangle]

Big halo fan and this probably gets asked a lot, sorry, but do you guys prefer release order or chronological order? Ngl i just found out that Reach takes place before most of the other games

[crystal iron]

The pistol has utility because you spawn with it so it’s a lot more utilized. It has CQC and long range purposes

[rocky oasis]

it depends who im playing with but to play personally, chronological!

[fossil harbor]

first time playthrough, release order. otherwise chronological after that

[obtuse tangle]

I normally play solo tbh

[rocky oasis]

long range with infinites sensitivity no sir-ee 😭😵🕊️

[rocky oasis]

me too!

[crystal iron]

Ok

[keen silo]

Release order I argue so you can experience and appreciate the gameplay changes over the years.

[crystal iron]

If you play Reach first, CE gonna feel weird

[rocky oasis]

ce feels awesome!! thought for first time definitely yeah

[fossil harbor]

what does that even mean dog, its a gun. all guns have utility

[crystal iron]

No I mean it’s weird having sprint and then not having sprint in CE

[crystal iron]

Blud. A utility gun means it’s usable in a lot of situations

[rocky oasis]

for me not so much because i dont see it as having sprint. i see it as having an ability lol

[crystal iron]

The AR is only good for CQC and it sucks in longer ranges

[rocky oasis]

we whipping out the dogs and bluds for this one lol

[crystal iron]

Same thing with the new SMG weapon

[rocky oasis]

is commando, dmr and stalker utility?

[fossil harbor]

alright next time im playing i'll make sure to call out the utility guns

[crystal iron]

Ok

[keen silo]

For example, the Mauler in Halo 3 provides the utility of letting me know “Dang, I really need find a better weapon”

[rocky oasis]

DONT BE NASTY 😷 did you know the mauler does extra melee damage?!

[crystal iron]

Ok I’m gonna take this because the mauler is actually a good example. It’s literally only good for CQC

[fossil harbor]

same. I also only use active camo in reach multiplayer

[crystal iron]

By like 5 points lmao

[rocky oasis]

30, actually!

[obtuse tangle]

Can I turn off look acceleration in MCC?

[crystal iron]

It doesn’t feel like 30

[rocky oasis]

i learnt earlier that the brute shot and mauler do 30 extra damage. and the spiker does a whopping 2 😭⚰️⚰️

[crystal iron]

Mauler is just better version

[rocky oasis]

you can!

[keen silo]

30 damage could easily the deciding factor if you’re facing off an enemy with more shield strength

[crystal iron]

Wait that’s what I was thinking off

You’d thinkd a literal bladed weapon would do more

[obtuse tangle]

Oh sweet, ty!

[fossil harbor]

I think the word you're looking for is versatility

[crystal iron]

Same thing then

[rocky oasis]

when i was a kid the spiker was my favourite because i hated ammo management and believed firmly in my child brain that it did more melee damage because spikes lol

its apparently the worst gun in the game ⚰️🕊️

[obtuse tangle]

Needler is my favorite gun in the entire franchise, too bad it's pretty rare

[crystal iron]

It is

[rocky oasis]

i was never good with needler

[fossil harbor]

rare in what way

[obtuse tangle]

I just don't find it a lot

[rocky oasis]

its a less common grunt weapon and i think rarely elite depending on the game

[obtuse tangle]

I'm swimming in assault rifles and pulse rifles but I find like 5 needles in ever campaign

[fossil harbor]

gotta use that weapon scan button ig

[rocky oasis]

whats a pulse rifle

[crystal iron]

That one Arbiter mission where like every grunt drops a needler

[fossil harbor]

cant say I have ever had an issue finding a needler lol

[crystal iron]

The new plasma weapon in Infinite

[rocky oasis]

oh the burst replacement of storm rifle?

[keen silo]

Three round burst fire plasma weapon. Basically a better Storm Rifle

[crystal iron]

It’s apparently burst fire and its projectiles can track but nothing will ever beat my baby girl Plasma Rifle

[rocky oasis]

fair

[obtuse tangle]

Look acceleration only affects mouse?

I swear it feels like my sens gets faster when I hold it in a direction

[rocky oasis]

am i the only one who prefers pr over pp 😢 i just much prefer it idk why.

[crystal iron]

Damn gurl really thought she was cooking lmao

[fossil harbor]

I only like the plasma rifle in CE

[rocky oasis]

it shouldnt do. i turn it off

[rocky oasis]

wdym?

[warped yew]

Bruh you come online on the most random times

[rocky oasis]

odst! odst!

[obtuse tangle]

I looked up how to turn it off and someone mentioned in this steam forum that it only affects mnk players

https://steamcommunity.com/app/976730/discussions/0/4677521348352381499/

[rocky oasis]

with the brute plasma the pistol is a troll gun in odst lol

[crystal iron]

Gurl I got a life

You always on Discord lmao

[rocky oasis]

thats crazy if true maybe im thinking of a different game sorry…

[warped yew]

Whatevs. I'm pretty sure I did cooked though

[crystal iron]

Probably. I can see the reasoning

[obtuse tangle]

Nah you're fine. It doesn't really make sense to me tbh since there's a "look acceleration" setting in the controller settings, maybe they're the ones mistaken

[rocky oasis]

i always turn off acceleration unless its necessary because of low sens speed.

[rocky oasis]

maybe…

[fossil harbor]

at the end of the day we were arguing over 20 year old game mechanics

[obtuse tangle]

Yea I'm trying to turn it off because I like me sensitivity to be the same no matter how long I hold it

[rocky oasis]

also i love the bob ross picture!

[obtuse tangle]

KILLED A BANSHEE AND THE DAMN THING FELL ON ME

[rocky oasis]

⚰️😴

[obtuse tangle]

Ty!

[crystal iron]

Tbf, those are still the same mechanics in Infinite

The BR is like still the same gun we know since 2

[rocky oasis]

if were going to talk guns again lets keep it civil lol 😵‍💫

also is infinite hitscan?

[crystal iron]

No?

Well for certain guns

[rocky oasis]

i thought human weapens were hitscan since halo reach

[crystal iron]

I think the Shock Rifle is legitimate hit scan

[crystal iron]

Reach human weapons aren’t hitscan

[rocky oasis]

they are right?

[crystal iron]

The DMR uses projectile shots

You can see over a distance that the Pistol, AR, and DMR take time to hit

[rocky oasis]

really?

[keen silo]

I think there’s been a lot of testing for Infinite. The projectiles aren’t hit scan, they just move really fast.

[crystal iron]

It certainly feels like it. Omg shock rifle is so overpowered in my hands.

I am making vehicle users have the most terrible time

[rocky oasis]

i was today years old when i learnt reach isnt histscan. huh.

oh no ok i just googled it. reach is hitscan

[crystal iron]

Sniper obviously isn’t hitscan in Reach because the bullets can richochet

What?

Damn guess I was wrong

[rocky oasis]

yeah “and its been in halo ever since”. i thought so

apparently the misinformation stems from a misunderstanding of a general kidd video

[crystal iron]

What has been in Halo ever since?

[rocky oasis]

hitscan since reach

ce and 3 dont use hitscan

and 2 works weirdly or something

[crystal iron]

What? I swear there is no Reach hitscan

[rocky oasis]

yep!

[crystal iron]

Im literally watching a modding video rn explain the Reach Sandbox

[keen silo]

I’m seeing a lot of conflicting information on Halo and Hitscan both from Bungie and 343/Halo Studios

[crystal iron]

I’m literally watching DMR projectiles travel

[warped yew]

Idk just play the game lol

[rocky oasis]

its most likely cosmetic, a lot of games have both a projectile and literal invisible hitscan

[warped yew]

Confirm with your own two eyes

[rocky oasis]

you can see it sometimes in games that are hitscan but your bullets seem to hit after. its because the projectile speed of the fake bullet is a bit too slow

[crystal iron]

What the heck? I swear it takes time for bullets to hit over a distance

No it couldn’t be

[rocky oasis]

nah its hitscan

the bullet will be cosmetic. otherwise your firing nothing lol

its also why reach is generally less painful than 3 with lag

and also why borderlands is painful in coop lol

[crystal iron]

Somebody test this rn

[warped yew]

Your good Slide

It's not hitscan. It's AI telling me it is

[rocky oasis]

its hitscan! im on the bungie website that confirms it

ai isnt reliable sadly

[warped yew]

Yeah that doesn't explain the bullet travel time that Slide just said

[rocky oasis]

its cosmetic.

[warped yew]

Also gimme the link please because I'm curious

[rocky oasis]

its a fake bullet that creates the sense your actually firing something and not shooting an invisible laser pointer

[warped yew]

Damn bro. Your life is a lie

[crystal iron]

What the heck

[rocky oasis]

https://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=262

[crystal iron]

Oh my god Bloom and this

[rocky oasis]

basically every game does it

[fossil harbor]

lmao I was literally just reading this

[crystal iron]

I’m pretty sure Infinite just has very fast projectiles

[fossil harbor]

because I was 90% sure that the dmr in reach was hitscan myself

[rocky oasis]

infinites hitscan

[crystal iron]

No don’t tell me that’s hit scan too

[rocky oasis]

yeah it is! glad we got that confirmed

[crystal iron]

Damn Ivy

[warped yew]

What

[crystal iron]

You wanna get on Reach sometime?

[warped yew]

Not really

I hate Reach which I've told you many times

[crystal iron]

It’s not that bad. You got bloom

[rocky oasis]

hitscan range of 49 wu!

[shadow turret]

Heresy
Reach is peak

[short flower]

Spartan Ops, ALL chapters, and episodes, COMPLETED on legendary solo!

[rocky oasis]

they hate reach lol

[warped yew]

Redundant sandbox, Bloom, literally the lore retcon

[rocky oasis]

woo congratulations!

[crystal iron]

It’s not that bad Ivy

[rocky oasis]

its really not its the best halo game you should try it

[fossil harbor]

feels good to be done with that slog doesnt it

[short flower]

Man this was brutal pain. Thank you!

[short flower]

💯

[rocky oasis]

how does it feel to hate the best halo game objectively ⚰️

[warped yew]

Ive played Reach since it first came out

[short flower]

I’ve got 2 other Spartan ops achievements, but they can be done with a team and on heroic.

[fossil harbor]

the best halo game is actually 5

[warped yew]

I mean liking a game is subjective

[rocky oasis]

didnt you just say you didnt like it? why would you play it so much 🤔

[crystal iron]

How do you hate objectively

[rocky oasis]

lol im kidding

[crystal iron]

Isn’t that subjective

[rocky oasis]

if theres a will theres a way

i objectively like halo reach lol

[warped yew]

No I meant like I've had it since launch my bad

[fossil harbor]

I hate teammates who dont play the subjective

[rocky oasis]

oh fair i got it free on xbgold

[warped yew]

But I've played it a couple times with this bum

[crystal iron]

That’s me lol

[rocky oasis]

all my friends are objective

i dont be friends with subjective ahhes 😵

[fossil harbor]

I try not to subjectivity people

[warped yew]

-<-

[fossil harbor]

Aw man autocorrect

[rocky oasis]

its quite hard

[crystal iron]

The glaze is crazy lmao

[warped yew]

I swear bro. I've been chill for like ever

[rocky oasis]

lol my message got auto deleted nice one mods

[crystal iron]

So when you getting on?

[warped yew]

Probably in like 30 mins

[crystal iron]

Aight

[fossil harbor]

I mean I’ve got no issue with you

[rocky oasis]

yeah what did you mean by that lol

we were talking to eachother

[edgy forum]

I wonder what the next Operation will be

[torn trench]

😏

[ruby lake]

whats the next step of the operation?

[crystal iron]

Hello everyone, I'm a new member here. English is not my native tongue. So please let us be friends! 🙏

[celest heron]

the lfg channels are where you can go if you're trying to find people to play with

[keen silo]

According to PEMDAS, exponents I think

[unreal knot]

either odst themed or more spartan armor

[glass goblet]

Please odst

[edgy forum]

Forklift Operation coming? 😏

🍴

[glass goblet]

I’m okay with that too honestly lol

[keen silo]

If they added Forklifts, there’s a 99% chance it would be a banished Forklift 🫠

[edgy forum]

It has spikes and it’s very angular, I think Escharum may have been a certified Forklift driver

Nothing wrong with Banished stuff, I’d love to see them more in the future

[keen silo]

Breaking news: Atriox reveals his entire recruitment process hinges on candidates being forklift certified

[ruby lake]

imagine being forklift certified

[keen silo]

It’s why the Covenant failed. Not enough of them were forklift certified

[spare finch]

action sack is hilarious

[white birch]

Nah, Unggoy do most of the forklift work
They're good at driving things and small enough they can sit in the seat
(Plus it's safer than getting shot at and you can take infusions while your on break. Sounds like a pretty good gig)

[edgy forum]

True, they do most of the forklift work

How else were the ships and structures were made in a day?

[keen silo]

Elephants and Pulley systems I think

[pseudo ledge]

Why do you guys think halo fell off

[keen silo]

Not enough gambling

[warped yew]

Two things imo.
The old players weren't open to the new stuff that 343 introduced on. I can find some good in H4, HI, and even H5.

343/Halo studios and their problems are pretty obvious like the Infinite launch and it's lack of content. I think the H5 advertisements were really cool and I'm sad H5 didn't live up to it. Hunt the truth? More like Hunt for another game lol

[edgy forum]

It hasn’t objectively for the past 5 years, YouTube yet again has been grifting and spreading too much negativity/toxic echo chambers on the Internet.

Not every big franchise is going to be peak forever

We all have our downs and faults yet we persevere and keep going with the blows

[onyx latch]

Reach

Killed the HCS market (which went to CoD, which proves that loadouts weren't the cause), was the start of Halo fans being entirely too angry at changing gameplay philosophy, and was generally not as monumentally appraised as 3 at the time.

[edgy forum]

That’s a good point

I never thought of Reach’s HCS seeing the gameplay was more grounded and realistic

I do remember COD BO2 was the biggest league competitive scene at the time or something

I’m glad that HCS has picked up these latest years in Infinite and I got into rooting for Optic Gaming

[onyx latch]

First point not being entirely accurate aside, yeah. BO2 was incredibly popular.

Halo 5 did more for the franchise than people give it credit for explicitly because it revived HCS interest in Halo.

[lusty wraith]

HCS is actually not that important lol

[tulip tusk]

Idk I'm no game designer i don't know about trends or what peeps want

Yeah idk how important hcs is. Its nice seeing real money behind halo. I think halo was about the player community somehow. Super popular customs and matchmaking. Right time, right place, right stuff. But gaming is very different now anyway. Like infinite is pretty bad as a social game so idk what games need nowdays

[lusty wraith]

also "killed the HCS market (which went to CoD)?" What?

[onyx latch]

I thought you had me blocked for petty reasons lmao

[lusty wraith]

ok

[onyx latch]

Anyways, it did.

[lusty wraith]

sure

[onyx latch]

Reach was when HCS largely swapped to CoD.

HCS decided it was no longer financially viable circa Reach's release, with 4's launch being the last gasp but a foregone conclusion in the face of increasing CoD dominance.

[tulip tusk]

I was playing that h4 mode with the base turrets couple days ago its weird but pretty cool

[onyx latch]

Dominion is really fun and it's a shame it's never came back

[lusty wraith]

Just saying your wording was not accurate lol, you could say FPS MLG went to CoD for a short period after Reach

Downfall of Halo though? There's more to the game than esports

[flat delta]

do you guys think that chief wouldve been slapped up by ancient humans

[tulip tusk]

Yea i guess they were prob similar to didact

[onyx latch]

You're right, which is why I'm still right, lmao. That's when CoD-style games were becoming more and more well-received, and it was a trend Reach's art direction was trying to cash in on. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

HCS was just one of the proofs of that issue.

[serene badger]

Slapped? Yes, but less than the average humans.
Defeated?
No.

Are you thinking about 4 with the Didact and how… quite offsided those instances were? But replace the Forerunner with Ancient Humans…

[latent acorn]

Halo 2,3, and Reach including H4, was in MLG from 2004 till late 2012. Halo on MLG was successful, but between mid-2010 throughout 2011 viewership started to decline and not making enough revenue it once had from the previous MLG tournaments, plus interests with CoD started to get big footing in the League. MLG dropped Halo in late 2012 not too long after H4 came out. HCS was made after that.

[lusty wraith]

I don't think MLG and esports relevance is a good metric to make statements like that but you do you

[flat delta]

I still wanna know more about ancient humans

still crazy to think that humans had a bit better understanding of how to control time

over forerunners

[glass goblet]

dude castle wars is giving me the most brain dead teammates

[warped yew]

There's atleast two in every match in play I swear lmao

[glass goblet]

i swear it had to be at least 4 at most 6 it was me and one other dude trying to stop and capture flags

[fossil harbor]

the amount of times I see a teammate grab the flag and then continue running into their base is too high

I swear they are testing bots with actual gamertags sometimes

[glass goblet]

honestly im with you on that lol. aint no way a real living person is this dense

[rocky oasis]

odst armour im reach when

[shadow turret]

ODST armor is in Reach, at least in the MCC
Unless I'm very misremembering

[rocky oasis]

really? whats it called?

[violet crescent]

It's just ODST.

[shadow turret]

Should just be ODST, yea

[violet crescent]

Might be a little ways into the pass though.

ODST armor in Halo 3 was so cool, I'd like that exact version to come back.

[rocky oasis]

i cant find any images of it on google. let me load the game

[violet crescent]

Weird, even classic Reach had ODST armor. But in classic Reach you had to get higher levels to see certain armor.

[rocky oasis]

eh?? its called odst but it looks more like cosplay to me. i was thinking h5 nightfall thats beautiful armour.

[violet crescent]

Oh yeah unfortunately that's not in Reach lol

[rocky oasis]

the day i got that was a good day 🤤

[violet crescent]

I tried, but luckily wasn't on my side.

*luck not luckily

[rocky oasis]

how did you even get it?

[violet crescent]

I think you needed to have Halo Waypoint connected to your Xbox account, and watch either one or all of the episode for Halo Nightfall on Waypoint.

[rocky oasis]

the halo 4 odst armour is quite pretty now i look at it tbh!