halo-discussion

[paper iron]

has mcc added subtitles for voices during gameplay? i must have played it maybe 2 years ago and playing with a friend was annoying bcs if we were talking i couldnt hear what the people were saying during gameplay except combat evolved ironically

[sinful grotto]

I love the leak emoji does he have a name?

[twin crag]

chasm is the worst map for headhunter

every spawn is on the other side, every delivery is on the other side

[dusk onyx]

I feel like 343i should update Halo 5 for the tenth anniversary and put Strongholds and Breakout as separate playlists so people can get the achievements easier

[onyx latch]

Don't forget porting it to PC

[civic sundial]

I just need that for the mods!

For the mods!!!

Let me add in all the REQ and post launch weapons to the campaign!!!

[gray hawk]

So Im wondering, would being plat rank be considered good?

[radiant sundial]

Yes

Basically anything above silver 5 is good

But then again, good is a very loose term, bc you can be good at your skill level, but when you play with people higher ranked than you, you wont do as good

[analog salmon]

its relative i guess

i think plat players are good shots but just tend to run around doing their thing

which is like what 90% of halo players are doing so by that metric yeah, if you can land shots your good

but then game sense is such a huge part of the competitive game

[warped yew]

In my eyes, a good player is just someone who can play competently. They can hit their shots most of time, etc

A really good player is that but like x5

The SBMM just makes it hard to tell who's good or who's getting a rigged game

[analog salmon]

in social you can run around and do alright without any awareness... until you cant

[radiant sundial]

Very true

[analog salmon]

that's not a rigged match, that's just you being put in a situation your playstyle needs to adapt

i know too well because i really hated adapting my playstyle for a long time

[flat delta]

why did they change forerunners being humans

[civic sundial]

Please not this topic again... Anything but this topic again

[flat delta]

it wouldn't be an issue if guilty spark didn't call master chief a literal forerunner

[civic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/the-batman-pattinson2021-gif-18213870

You saw a video uploaded this weekend, didn't you?

[flat delta]

no ive actually brought this up a few times before but ive failed to get a response

in this very server

[civic sundial]

Maybe the reason is because people are tired of hearing the question?

[flat delta]

no its just an interesting pivot in the lore

[radiant sundial]

question, anyone know how the warmaster helmet could inflict the side effects it supposedly does?

[civic sundial]

Might be better to ask that in #lore-and-universe . I'm not too well versed in the different Mjolnir helmets and their lore

[radiant sundial]

fair point

[warped yew]

Just answer the question lmao. Just say why 343 did it and leave. There's no debating why 343 did, but there will be debates on what should've been

But yeah just answer and leave lmao

Also just got stung by a bee. Was not bad as I thought it was gonna be

[flat delta]

im trying to understand why they did it

[onyx latch]

Do you believe clearly crazy people who tell you anything on the street?

Hey, btw, Master Chief is actually Robert Downey Jr's estranged great great grandkid who was frozen for 3 generations, don't tell anyone.

[flat delta]

sure lets say guilty spark is crazy

has everything guilty spark said been untrue?

[onyx latch]

He literally is. That's actual canon, lmao

[onyx latch]

Either untrue and out of context, yes.

Like, that's not a gotcha, lmao. He literally has dementia episodes in the first game the first level you hear him talk during.

His diatribe about doing it 'again' in Two Betrayals is just him babbling to himself about someone who isn't Chief, lmao

[flat delta]

what other times has guilty spark been wrong about lore

[onyx latch]

Well, let's see. He knows how to do his job.

[flat delta]

seems like he only goes crazy when it doesn't fit your plot narrative

[radiant sundial]

quite literally said himself that he went rampant iirc

[onyx latch]

He... Literally did go insane, to fit the plot's narrative. It's not my plot, I'm not a Halo writer, I just actually know what happens, lmao

You're saying the clearly insane robot is perfectly sane despite being demonstratably not sane, lmao

[radiant sundial]

also, you try being alone for 10,000 years and not going insane

go on, I'll wait

[onyx latch]

The guy literally babbles about dead people he knew all the time like you are one of the dead people. You must be depressingly easy to manipulate if you think that's a sign of sanity, lmao.

[flat delta]

if guilty spark cant tell the difference between a human and a forerunner why didnt he have a plethora of more issues / messing up on lore

[onyx latch]

Because you can be selectively insane. And he made a ton of small mistakes until he made two really, really big ones.

[civic sundial]

Being alone for a few months is enough for most people to lose it normally

[onyx latch]

He's competent at his job of... Knowing how a Halo works. That's what he exists for. That's his only job.

[radiant sundial]

point in case

[onyx latch]

It's the entire point of a monitor.

[civic sundial]

So Spark going crazy after so long is basically just someone being doomed to madness

[onyx latch]

So of course he's going to be right about the rings. Actual history, not so much.

[radiant sundial]

also, as far as i know, he never called chief a forerunner, he called him a reclaimer. (unless i missed something)

[onyx latch]

He says "You are forerunner" in Halo 3.

[radiant sundial]

ah

[civic sundial]

He does go "You are Forerunner!" in Halo 3 but it's obvious he's losing it

[onyx latch]

That's after he randomly snaps and frags Johnson

[civic sundial]

Like, he's turning red and shooting everyone in the room

[onyx latch]

So I don't get why people pretend, fools they are, that he's some bastion of truth and integrity, when he just snapped and turned the inside of Johnson's chest cavity from an outie to a crispy innie.

[radiant sundial]

just to maybe save that, could he have been confused bc of chief's genesong? i'd assume he would've picked that up (even if it didnt exist until the next game)

[civic sundial]

That and he calls the ring his "Precious" like some weird creature from a Tolkein novel

[radiant sundial]

tbh i wouldnt be suprised if he was half inspired by said weird creature from a Tolkein novel

[onyx latch]

Like, humanity's more of an adopted child of the Forerunners, but that's basically because Librarian was really weird as a person.

[radiant sundial]

random guy/thing kept away from all contact for a very extended period of time guarding a ring

[paper iron]

has mcc added subtitles for voices during gameplay? i must have played it maybe 2 years ago and playing with a friend was annoying bcs if we were talking i couldnt hear what the people were saying during gameplay except combat evolved ironically

[flat delta]

define ai rampancy

[onyx latch]

A loss of AI rationality due to age and overthinking.

[flat delta]

its not really irrationality

what is the common thing we've seen with ai who have gone rampant

(aside mendicant bias who was infected by the flood)

[onyx latch]

Rampancy is a terminal state of being for artificial intelligence constructs in which the AI behaves contrary to its programming-imposed constraints. Traditionally, this is linked with the AI developing a longing for godlike power and contempt for its mentally inferior makers.[2] When rampancy occurs, there is no way to restore the AI to its previous state and the only alternative is to destroy it before it harms itself and others around it.[3] Rampancy can occur with human, Covenant, and Forerunner AI.[2]

Let's see. Loss of rationality, because an AI isn't godlike and it develops irrational contempt.

Amazing. Wow. It's almost as though I know what I'm talking about.

[flat delta]

i should've said this in the beginning but, the main reason i'm asking why they went about making forerunners entirely different is because i fully believe it weakened the story

you can say all you want that ''guilty spark thought that the masterchief was a forerunner because he went crazy'' even though this obviously wasn't the orginial intention that builded up through the first 3 halo games

[civic sundial]

Halo 3 is also the first time we learnt that humanity and Forerunners were a different species

[onyx latch]

And I fully believe that humans being forerunners weakens the story. Seems we're at an impasse.

Funny how that works.

[civic sundial]

And it was something that had to be approved to make it into the game, so if there was an issue with humans and Forerunners being different species, someone would've made sure that was changed before release

[flat delta]

so you believe that the covenant waging a war over a singular lie is better than the covenant waging a war because you are fighting the less developed versions of your past gods you worship?

[civic sundial]

Wars have been waged for even dumber reasons in real life, I can buy a civilisation that built it self up over centuries on a mistranslation of a symbol where the new leaders knew the truth but purposely kept that secret due to not wanting the empire to fall

[flat delta]

i also remember i watched my friend play halo 3 and i remembered the part where the gravemind talks to chief

lemme look up what he said i remember it caught my interest

well ill be damned the gravemind calls chief the literal child of my enemy

[civic sundial]

A child doesn't need to be biologically related to their parent

Or the same species

[flat delta]

thats nice mental gymnastics

[civic sundial]

Adoption exists

[flat delta]

guilty spark (iirc) also says master chief is the child of his makers

[warped yew]

That would be adoption

Dang u beat me to it

[flat delta]

the same guilty spark who (went crazy when he told chief he was a forerunner

[warped yew]

How would Guilty Spark be capable of insanity

[flat delta]

so is the gravemind (who has recollection of the floods war with forerunners) also crazy and untrustable lore wise?

[warped yew]

Can yall just accept that Bungie intended humans to be the Forerunners but 343 retconned to be a different species

[civic sundial]

The Gravemind's whole thing is manipulating others to do its bidding to make it easier for the Flood to win

[flat delta]

what would be the purpose of manipulating chief into thinking that he is the child of forerunners

[warped yew]

Yes and he didn't even lie in his first scene to do it

[flat delta]

thats literally makes no sense the gravemind is just stating a fact

💀

[civic sundial]

As someone who has quite literally been gaslit and manipulated by someone I once trusted, I can say this, lies absolutely are a part of it

[warped yew]

I don't think the Gravemind has said any real lies in the trilogy tbh

[flat delta]

the mental gymanstics are insane

[warped yew]

I'm sorry. I don't know what's it's like to be betrayed by someone you trust, but I hope ur ok

[flat delta]

if this was true then the writers wouldn't have had guilty spark and the gravemind say the exact same thing almost verbatim

[warped yew]

Why is this argument is even happening anyway. Just accept that Bungie did make the forerunners human but 343 changed it bruh

[civic sundial]

Thanks and it's rough... I ended up losing a really good friend because of the person who gaslit me

[flat delta]

yea exactly it was changed there was no doubt about it being changed

[warped yew]

My deepest gratitude friend

[flat delta]

i mean damn, i dont know why its so hard for some people to say that they changed it entirely

[civic sundial]

You were asking us for the why, not an if

And it's not exactly too clear why the decision was made outside of people at Bungie had mixed opinions. We don't know the exact reason why

343 simply carried on something started by Bungie

[celest heron]

yes, and there's also a lot of custom options for them.

[flat delta]

i heard mcc is a mess rn

[ruby knoll]

@river minnow post it

[paper iron]

sick

[smoky wave]

Next is going to be about sprint

[prisma cipher]

The issue with the “Forerunners are Humans” thing is that people insist that it should have always been canon and think like if it always was but 343 somehow “desecrated” the lore by making them not humans in Halo 4

That’s why i think the discussion is so tiresome, since people think that this was all a complot made by Frank to “destroy the Halo franchise” and genuinely think that 343 games aren’t good just for that reason

[flat delta]

imo i just think it just makes the story weaker but thats that

i dont really like the people who trash on 343 for everything because they've def done some good things

[sturdy kernel]

Are you still tired of discussing the same thing, I of course understand that you need to spend your free time, BUT STILL, these are long-worn topics

[civic sundial]

I am so tired of the topic... I feel like I've been stuck in a reverse time lock with how often I've seen the topic

[sturdy kernel]

It's like arguing which came first, the chicken or the egg

According to the game's lore, everything is extremely simple.
The Precursors were a powerful race that created life in the galaxy, they created the Forerunners, humans and races that entered the future covenant

[radiant sundial]

he's an AI, AI's go rampant

rampancy is insanity for an AI

[warped yew]

How do we know spark is capable of rampancy

Sure Cortana has forerunner tech, but the forerunners understood their tech

Spark has been around for who knows long lmao

Bye imma eat lunch now

[civic sundial]

All AI are susceptible to rampancy in Halo

[radiant sundial]

because forerunner ancillas are stated to be suceptible to rampancy

and it was said that he did go rampant

[warped yew]

During his time with Chief?

[civic sundial]

He was going rampant long before he met Chief

[warped yew]

Ok

[radiant sundial]

he was alone for 10,000 years and change, he was most certainly losing it

heck, he had already lost it

[warped yew]

If he was rampant, Spark is really good at hiding it in the trilogy

He is one of the most self composed characters ever but he really was rampant all the time during the game dang

Wait is Rampancy a 343 or Bungie thing

[civic sundial]

Bungie

[warped yew]

Alr

[civic sundial]

Actually predates Halo and comes from Marathon originally, but the definition has changed a little bit

[warped yew]

I'm just confused now cuz Spark acts really self composed

[crystal iron]

24 M looking for friends to play halo infinte or other steam games with

[warped yew]

Like Spark never acted irrationally and never once has he branched away from what he was originally supposed to do in the games

[warped yew]

Wait so rampancy was in Marathon, but was it a thing in Halo?

During Bungies time with the game to be specific

[civic sundial]

https://marathongame.fandom.com/wiki/Rampancy

https://www.halopedia.org/Rampancy

[warped yew]

Welp time to read ig

Instead of getting a straight answer

Ok so one of the effects of ramapancy is scorn for the AI's makers

So I got that ig

Uhm alr

Isn't this post just stating what ramapancy is and not telling me if it even existed during Bungies time with Halo

[crystal iron]

I’m reading from folk that it was first brought up in the Halo universe by Eric Nylund in the Fall of Reach, so Day 1, basically.
But other references include Cortana saying Chief has gone ‘Rampant’ if the player kills Keyes in CE, and the first title card of the level ‘Cortana’ in H3 is ‘Rampant’.

[ruby knoll]

thank u

[celest heron]

not really. there's cheating, but I doubt it's affecting the majority of the population.

[river minnow]

(@signal ivy did u make one with a bigger font)

[smoky wave]

Thanks 🙏

[tulip tusk]

😆

[gray hawk]

Surely someone going 27/7/5 on ctf with no caps, steals and returns has to be trolling

[celest heron]

no, they're just going for kills and/or trying to inflate their k/d

[full warren]

They are getting the kills so the rest of you can cap

them running the flag will be a waste as his probably the only guy killing anyone

[gray hawk]

except they weren't focused on the people who were defending the base

[full warren]

I mean if his killing that many people you should be able to run into their base and just pick up the flag

unless its 8v8 or 12v12

[gray hawk]

it was a big team battle

[celest heron]

that's pretty normal in btb. lots of people just go for kills.

[full warren]

oh yeah btb nothing you can do if you not in a squad so you might as well just get kills

[ivory glacier]

I’m sorry but these new ARs are absolute trash

[warped yew]

Isn't there like 1

[dawn gazelle]

My question, does 343 just have the Blur models on standby? Or are they all deleted after H2a dropped?

[tulip tusk]

good question! idk

[crystal iron]

They would be with Blur studios and not 343 most likely.

And I'm guessing they reused some of them for the HW2 cutscenes.

[rich kindle]

Hello

[edgy forum]

Hopefully this next week will have a teaser for the next Operation

[limpid lance]

@civic sundial Speaking of AI in Halo and Marathon, when Halo was gonna be set in the Marathon universe, Cortana's base programming would've been re-used to form Durandal

[wide trout]

Blur had a server fire a year or two ago, it’s not known what survived

[limpid lance]

Wonder if 343’s gonna work with Blur again for cinematics, given they’re likely moving the series to Unreal Engine

[civic sundial]

Blur's too booked up by Marvel these days to do VFX work. Not sure why Unreal would factor into if 343 would work with them again, Blur's cutscenes would've all been done using maya, not the game engine each game used

[civic sundial]

Aye, I remember reading something about that ages ago

[limpid lance]

Gonna be wild to see how good everything looks in Unreal 🤤

[limpid lance]

And on top of that, I’m guessing Halo would’ve been a Jjaro construct, as they were the Forerunners of Marathon

[civic sundial]

I need to actually properly read into Marathon lore honestly, I know it's believed the third one goes multiversal?

[limpid lance]

Oh yeah, there’re multiple branching timelines, timelines within timelines, dreamscape timelines, and eldritch chaos horrors that were imprisoned inside stars

Iirc, Chief originally was gonna be the Security Officer
The Security Officer wears MJOLNIR armor, and is a cyborg

[gray hawk]

Anyone else getting OOM errors?

[magic night]

Means you don't have enough RAM

[civic sundial]

Don't try downloading more

[tribal shoal]

ik the mcc is a bit buggy

but i managed to get "Nagato Makes Moving Easy" to unlock Xbox-side, giving me the achievement and gamerscore

but not on steam lol

[analog salmon]

Steam and Xbox just take time to update

Steam uses Xbox

If you buy the game on steam all your Xbox MCC achievements randomly pop at some point

[tribal shoal]

i'm used to there being a slight disconnect, but this was the first achievement that had a 25ish minute delay lol

[glacial tartan]

Sometimes it can take days. Sometimes it wont pop at all and you have to redo it. Just MCC things 🙂

[edgy forum]

Nice

[sly plover]

I have a question about Halo military police Spartans I know they did not fight against the covenant, but how well would they do against the covenant if the covenant was attacking them

[civic sundial]

A Spartan's a Spartan, they'll do good in a fight regardless of what they specialise in

Also I don't think that the helmet is worn exclusively by military police, given that the helmets worn by marines in Reach and Infinite are the military police design

[sly plover]

Ok thank you🙏

[keen silo]

A lot of helmets are used by different people. Like ODST helmets for example. Or the variety of helmets designed for pilots

[wooden briar]

One of them did fight against the Covenant: Miranda.

(When making an arrest, police read detainees their Miranda rights.)

You have the right to play The Silent Cartographer.
Anything you say can be used against you in a wort of law.
You have the right to a tourney.
If you cannot afford to play in a tourney, one will be streamed for you.
If you proceed to win any matches without a tourney, you have the right to stop playing at any time until you are in a tourney.

Lots of stuff about tournaments in there.

[keen silo]

Never the Miranda lefts though. Not since the accident

[keen silo]

Your Honor, I’d like to exercise my right to a Halo 3 1v1 with the prosecution

[wooden briar]

Exactly this: Miranda pushed everything to-war-ds disaster.

[keen silo]

Everyone can go home now. Comedy has been solved

[wooden briar]

oh shoot I'm sorry I didn't see the no-ping thing until just now.

[keen silo]

You good! No worries

[wooden briar]

@latent pawn This conversation was tailor-made for you: Legal x Tourneys.

[latent pawn]

gear like military police is just stuff thats made compatible with mjolnir and post war some spartans in the spartan 4 program could fill those roles

regardless its still spartans we're talking here

[gray hawk]

why does it feel like the majority of players just farm kills in btb?

[crystal iron]

Because they do

[crimson berry]

Can I please get teammates who actually know how to play

[crimson berry]

Nope, apparently not. :/ Getting so frustrated I'm actually goddamn crying.

[radiant sundial]

Play FFA or use the lfg

[crimson berry]

At this point I don't think it matters.

[radiant sundial]

Well now you're just giving up

[crimson berry]

Yep. I get teams like this on CoD, on Halo it's driving me insane.

[radiant sundial]

Its a game. You wont win every match, or get good teammates every round, get over it. You lose? Alright, find out how to do better next time. All you can do is do the most you can to stack the deck in your favor and pray

[crimson berry]

Stop giving me the spiel.

[radiant sundial]

And if your tired of relying on allies, play FFA

[radiant sundial]

Nah

[crimson berry]

I know it's a game. I know I wont win every match. What I get sick of is losing every match. Being able to help or being utterly outplayed on a severely unbalanced team. It's insane how bad it is anymore to a point, I am going to have to give up.

[radiant sundial]

Which is why you go on the LFG's and join/make posts to get teammates

[crimson berry]

So, yeah I don't need the spiel and you can stop with that now. I'm just tired of how stacked against a solo player it feels. I should not have to play with others to play a decent game.

[radiant sundial]

Then just go play FFA

[crimson berry]

Again, I do not want teammates. Just balanced teammates instead of having it feel like I'm the only one who knows how to play. I get teammates who never pick up a power weapon.

[radiant sundial]

My guy, im telling you how to get what you want.

[crimson berry]

Not a guy. I don't want teammates. I'm wanting match making to be balanced.

That's all I want, but it feels... manipulative anymore. Highly.

[radiant sundial]

And just because people dont pick up power weapons doesnt mean they dont know how to play. It usually means they're trusting a teammate to know how to use it better than they do.

[crimson berry]

When the other team is always picking them up, always grabbing them. You'd think your team would try to do so as well to stop from being dominated. They do not even try.

[radiant sundial]

Are they not trying, or are they getting killed as they try? I can 99.9% guarantee the same thoughts your having are what they're thinking

[crimson berry]

They are not trying at all. Going 4/10 or less, they are just not giving a crap at all.

[radiant sundial]

Aight, im going to blow your mind, at my skill level lately, (gold 3-6ish for some frame of reference) i've been having a similar ratio to that, even when trying my hardest. Its not due to lack of trying that your team is being murdered to heck, its just because the enemy team is better

[crimson berry]

Which cycles back to the team balancing being the problem.

[radiant sundial]

Which cycles back to what are you going to do about it? Sit and complain? Or find a way to get a good set of teammates?

[crimson berry]

Which cycles back to me saying I should not need them and nor do I want them. Cuz then I wind up worrying about what they are saying/doing than anything.

[radiant sundial]

Which is literally what you should be doing, your in a team you should always be thinking about where your team is, whether or not you can help them, pointing out targets for them, listening to their comms.

If you dont want to worry about that go play FFA

[crimson berry]

Again, not the point nor problem. It's dealing with them talking about other crap and not paying attention, or helping or anything else.

So I play solo queue in Quick Play or BTB cuz it's my only options.

So, yes all I can do is complain and hope I get a good team. Rarely happens these days but I hope.

[radiant sundial]

It quite literally isnt.... there's an entire playlist for you if you dont want to deal with teammates

[crimson berry]

That isn't even what I am saying.

[radiant sundial]

Your complaining about your team not being uo to par. Ok, natural solutions are two things, choose a team that is up to par, or ditch the team.

Very simple.

[crimson berry]

Which is why I leave matches frequently anymore.

I'm not going to go out and find a team that may still not be worth playing with, or talks so much about other topics, I can't focus at all, which happens to me.

[radiant sundial]

Thats just called being a jerk

[crimson berry]

No it's not at all. If it's unfun to a point I'm not wanting to play, I leave.

[radiant sundial]

Also you can disable voice chat, crazy, i know

[crimson berry]

Really, I can also mute them and I have.

[radiant sundial]

So you continue complaining about a problem you have a solution to?

[crimson berry]

There is barely any. I either get teammates that can be 10x times worse than the ones I randomly queue up with, get those that talk about anything but the game, or I just solo queue like I been.

The problem you keep missing is I want balanced match making. It's not hard to understand.

[radiant sundial]

You know, you can just ask them to stop talking about random stuff they'll usually say sorry and stop

[crimson berry]

They still do it, then I get made fun of for being a sweat.

[radiant sundial]

That is literally impossible to do perfectly

[crimson berry]

I'm not saying perfectly. I am saying make it better.

[radiant sundial]

So? Just ignore them then, mute them, do whatever

[wise shard]

Anyone willing to be the 5th in a stack on valorant? I know its so random I'm sorry but the LFG just sucks so bad we're that desparate

[radiant sundial]

Wrong chat bud

[crimson berry]

I literally was in a party with a guy on COD, who would NOT stop talking about everything else, even going to his... "conquests" ect. Then going to tech talk, to a point I just zoned out.

[wise shard]

😦

[crimson berry]

Isn't that also wrong server?

[radiant sundial]

My guy, these are social games, people are going to socialize, get over it

[wise shard]

im sorry im sorry i just had to give it a shot

[crimson berry]

And then they get upset and leave party. Then I'm back to square one. So how does that help at all? I might as well skip and go to solo queuing. It makes no difference.

[radiant sundial]

If you want to have a competitive oriented team with solid balancing, play ranked

Unless your ranked high, it really isnt that sweaty

[crimson berry]

Please stop calling me a guy. I am not one.

I know people socialize, I am not against it, but when you are talking to a literal point I cannot hear ANYTHING besides you, thats a problem. I can't hear foot steps, I can't hear shots. NONE of it.

I do not play ranked cuz then I get people who never touch the flag on CTF. It's why I refuse to play it.

[radiant sundial]

Not calling you a guy, its a generic response i use with everyone, regardless of gender or whatever

[crimson berry]

Alright then.

[radiant sundial]

Ranked slayer exists, and turning down voice chat audio and turning up sound effects also is a thing

[stark turtle]

how do i fix the bug where catalog exchange challange hub customization and player ID are all grayed out

[radiant sundial]

Reload the game

[stark turtle]

did that

didnt work

[radiant sundial]

Is your internet good and working?

[stark turtle]

yes

[radiant sundial]

File a bug report then, and drop something in #1075989764026675210

[crimson berry]

I'm like 850 hours in on this game. Literally all of it MP. I don't trust to party up with people. The only group I had lasted a day and I never seen them again.

On CoD, I get one of two sets. Either they yap so much I legit cannot hear a thing, foot steps/gun fire/anything at all, or I get the ones that focus and BS all at once. I've stopped partying with people cuz I tend to worry about what they are doing/saying and if they are having a fun time. If I cannot carry them, I cannot promise they are having a fun time. So, I'm stuck solo queuing and hoping I get a team that actually knows how to play. Which is getting rarer these days.

[stark turtle]

it wont stop contacting server either

[crimson berry]

Is your net having issues currently?

Like, going up and down but not noticable cuz you are in game, ect? I've had that happen before.

[radiant sundial]

Alright, i know what the problem is, you care too much

[stark turtle]

no, my internet is working perfectly

[radiant sundial]

Stop caring about everyone else so much and focus on you

Also a note, swearing isnt allowed on the server, so if you misspelled something i'd check your dms demi

[stark turtle]

what

its an m rated game

[radiant sundial]

Its rated T now (as of halo 5 and halo infinite)

Dont question it too much, its not that big of a deal

[swift iris]

The flood pretty much get it to M rating alongside a certain cutscene in 4.

[radiant sundial]

Technically there's nothing in infinite to warrant a M rating

Besides the playerbase that is

[vale swallow]

Head hunter seems pretty fun, do we agree?

[warped yew]

Pls next game there's a level that uses aerial vehicles and the scorpion can finally hold 5 marines

Nothing like making adding 4 arcane sentinel beams or tracker SPNKER to your passengers

[tulip tusk]

yeah thats 1 reason the falcon is super cool and a nice opening or part of an aerial mission. in Reach Invasions they get fun bc there are phases of Falcon assaults, it's just a fun aspect. Banshee assaults can b cool as well mayb a good map idea if invasion scripting is possible

[warped yew]

Halo infinite peaked with it's last missions

Like for once in 343 games, there was an emphasis on actually taking down a phantom. Not 1 but 3 of them.

The Road and House of Reckoning, yknow the deal with them

Silent Auditorium is kind of a mixed bag. The fact that 1 brute was more of a challenge then the Harbinger herself lol

Real shame marines couldn't drive to follow you on The Road

[swift iris]

Unless you're against a team that either spawn kills you, steals your weapons and vehicles, and just overall turns the match hellish.

Invasion is fun though not well designed. Then again Reach has had it's own set of issues.

[warped yew]

I thought we were talking about campaign

I mean hypothetically you could build a map, place certain weapons and vehicles in certain spots so that it would be a balanced map

[tulip tusk]

yea the mm invasion gets messy but the custom game browser invasions r very good

[warped yew]

Is CGB dead? I haven't been on MCC in a while

[tulip tusk]

it's very active i last counted a month or so ago, mcc cgb had around 720players in matches, infinite had around 250 or 300, i posted exact numberssomewhere here

ill try to find it lemme see

here it is i just counted players in cgb matches on Aug 8th

• Infinite cgb: 257 p
• MCC cgb: 739 p

[warped yew]

Hmm I'm seeing a big gap

[limpid lance]

For the next game, would be wild, but it'd be so awesome if there's a sequence we pilot a War Sphinx, as we're on Zeta Halo, and massive presence that was there

[warped yew]

Nothing like leading an assault on a banished outpost followed by multiple marine driven scorpions 😤

[limpid lance]

Really hope there're big set-pieces again

[keen silo]

I do miss AI drivers and pilots

[limpid lance]

Infinite really lacked these massive battles give the open world

[warped yew]

The Ark and The Covenant were peak Halo missions

[limpid lance]

Might seem like a regression, but I think they should go back to linear missions

The open world was fun for Infinite, but don't think that should be the format going forward

[warped yew]

But those linear missions still feel open if you know what I mean

I would like to see Halo explore stealth in its gameplay. We really only ever got that in halo 3 and 5 from what I can remember, but those moments were really minimal

[civic sundial]

You could stealth kinda in Reach on Nightfall

[warped yew]

Kind of but that lasted like 30 seconds. When you got to the sniper sections, ai would already be alerted by the first shot u took

[civic sundial]

And if you're good with a sniper in Infinite, you can eliminate an entire group of Banished without them ever knowing you were there

[warped yew]

Well I'll guess I count Halo reach too

But I want a dedicated stealth encounter. I love Halo infinite, but I felt it gave you too much freedom. Having actual roadblocks in the way like ai you can't reach because they're on a different floor is an example

Or the vehicle sections for that matter lol

[limpid lance]

Let's get global battle like they experimented with Reach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tJfoR8nqI&start=74

[warped yew]

Ooh. That's rly cool seeing Anti Air guns in action in the background

The scarab suddenly coming out of nowhere was rly cool

[limpid lance]

With them seemingly moving to UE5, who knows what kind of epic stuff they'll be able to come up with

[civic sundial]

What about an entire mission, akin to All Ghillied Up from COD 4?

[warped yew]

Oooh

Actually now that I think about it. I think missions have a gimmick is another good way to further unique them from each other

[civic sundial]

Granted I'd want them to look at proper stealth mechanics instead of highly scripting everything

[warped yew]

If u want reference, check out H2R's stealth sequences in The Arbiter and Delta Halo

There's a dude who posted timestamps in the comments in those live streams so you'll basically be able to find I'm talking about

Ok

[vale swallow]

Head Hunter? more like Destination Moo 😭

[civic sundial]

???

[keen silo]

huh

[warped yew]

Elaborate

Elucidate

Explain

[civic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-gif-9958937

[warped yew]

Aight what are cows associated with? Black and White, grass, steak, milk, and steak

Moo is what we tell children how cows sound when they really say Moo

[civic sundial]

But do they actually say moo? Or is it actually cows speaking in a language far beyond human comprehension?

[warped yew]

They say moo. I've heard It in a farm way too many times

Like it's actually Moo

[civic sundial]

Maybe that's what the cows want you to think

[warped yew]

Idk. I like to think it's like Secret Life of Pets. A dog speaks but our ears cant comprehend the sound so we heard it as a bark

And the same goes for every other animal

Ok back to my point
Cows are used in multiple children related media. Books, Barnyard, movies, alphabetical books, etc

So rly what Mudila was saying is that the gamemode is for children. Too simple

[gray swan]

Wish 343 would give the xp people earned before the rank system came out

[keen silo]

This has nothing to do with cows, stick with the program my dude. We all got a copy of the memo this morning

[gray swan]

I wish owning a cow gave you Halo infinite xp

[keen silo]

Or, like Slipstream was saying, perhaps headhunters is too advanced for our human minds to understand. Perhaps humanity’s next step in evolution is cow?

[gray swan]

Or every cheese burger came with xp

[keen silo]

Halo x Fast food promo: Every limited time Moa Burger gets you Cow Print armor or weapon coating

[cyan sinew]

Hi

Hey

[gusty basin]

This may be a dumb Question

in halo reach the long night of solace mission when you infiltrate the covenant ship why do they destroy it rather then taking it over and using it

Like with reach being important why not take over more of their ships

Also another question
Why doesn’t the UNSC make their ships out of the stuff the covenant had their stuff made out of and why is the UNSC shields worse then the covenant?

I got a lot of questions 😂

[civic sundial]

The UNSC destroyed the LNoS because it's too big for them to easily take over, not to mention that it had just laid waste to ground forces when we first see it in Reach, Operation Upper Cut's goal was buying time before reinforcements could make it to Reach. And the UNSC at that point had little success capturing Covenant ships, so attempting to capture one that big would have been near impossible

[civic sundial]

Because humanity hadn't invented the nanolaminate the Covenant uses to make their ships and the UNSC didn't have energy shield technology until they began reverse engineering Covenant tech

[gusty basin]

But with 2 Spartan 2s inside they held off a lot so I mean not that it would of been impossible but I get it

[gusty basin]

The what sorry?

[civic sundial]

The UNSC never set foot inside the LNoS, they used a Corvette to deliver the slipspace bomb. And only Jorge was a S-II, Six is an S-III

[civic sundial]

Nanolaminate is what Covenant ships are made out of

[gusty basin]

Jorge was a 2? I thought he was a 3

[civic sundial]

No, he's a Spartan II

[sturdy kernel]

All Noble team was 3, and only Jorge was 2

[gusty basin]

Ahh ok so how did the covenant get a hold of it and how were they able to operate forerunner tech givin that it seems that only humans can operate it well at lest the halos

[gusty basin]

Huh also does he call Halsey mum or ma’am?

[civic sundial]

Ma'am

[gusty basin]

Sounds like he says mum

[civic sundial]

They invented nanolaminate, we don't know the details of when. And not every Forerunner structure requires a human touch, just the most important and/or dangerous ones

With some exceptions as I don't recall the Prelate needing a human to activate the prototype Halo he planned on using against the Elites

[gusty basin]

So what about the ship truth used wouldn’t that need a humans touch?

[gusty basin]

Well it could be that it’s a prototype and that’s why maybe cos it wasn’t a fully functional one my halo lore isn’t that good so you may need to explain some things as for the nano thing how was it invented

[civic sundial]

We don't know how nanolaminate was invented

[civic sundial]

Well the Prophets used it to leave their homeworld so it can be assumed it doesn't need a human

[gusty basin]

So why can’t ONI reverse engineer it like they have done with other same with the forrunner tech why not use that in their army’s?

[gusty basin]

Maybe it was left for other species to use as wasn’t it left on many other planets to? There was many right?

[warped yew]

Even if they would have, with the entire fleet coming in shortly after, there were more important things to do than take a entire covenant craft for study

[gusty basin]

Well I mean like not taking it for study but to use it or like with say earth they could of used some of the ships there there could be at lest one that is functional and not taken over by the flood

[warped yew]

Well to use it first, they would have to study how it works

-_-

You can't just magically throw some covenant tech into a madmade machine and expect it to work

[civic sundial]

There's only one prototype Halo and it wasn't left for others to use after the proper array was fired

[gusty basin]

Duh but i would assume maybe a Spartan would understand it quick maybe but like you can use a few of their stuff mostly ground stuff and maybe more idk of and ofc the ships are a massive leap but Just a thought is all

[warped yew]

It is what it is

[gusty basin]

Not the halo the ships I mean that truth had

[warped yew]

High Charity?

The one that the flood took over in a day?

[gusty basin]

No the forerunner one where chief was in at the end of halo 2

[warped yew]

Oh the dreadnought

Alr

[gusty basin]

That’s what it’s called?

[civic sundial]

The Keyship we see in Halo 2 and 3 is the only surviving one as far as we know

And these days it's a ruin on the surface of the Ark with a Covenant splinter group using it as their base of operations as they fight both the Banished and the Spirit of Fire

[gusty basin]

So is there any forerunner tech on earth? And how did the covenant get so technical and advanced and better then humans if humans were givin the mental and all that stuff I would think the forerunners would of tried to give or maybe give their home world more stuff

[civic sundial]

Humanity hasn't obtained the Mantle

And we see Forerunner tech on Earth in Halo 3, the Portal at Voi

And the Covenant know more because they discovered Forerunner technology long before humanity did

[gusty basin]

I thought the forerunners gave it to ancient humans?

When they basically gave up

[gusty basin]

But how did they get to a space race before humans unless there is no lore on it
Like I mean how did they find it and become so big so quick tech wise while humanity was with stones

[civic sundial]

The Mantle isn't a physical thing to give

[gusty basin]

It’s a role yes but wouldn’t that mean that they would have access to more tech then any other species

And why didn’t they give ancient humans their tech after their death

[civic sundial]

Because they developed as civilisations faster than humanity in regards to technology. We see this in Halo 5 when Vale talks about Sangheili ruins being ancient even when humanity was building pyramids in Egypt

[gusty basin]

So they just became more advanced faster then what would could of

And how come humans never for anything forerunner

[civic sundial]

Because the Forerunners handing the simple tribes on Earth hard light tech would've gone horribly wrong. And the Mantle doesn't suddenly give you access to technology. It's a test that is very flawed and should be left in the past

[gusty basin]

I guess cos humans would of wiped themselves out

And why you say that it was the precursors who made it then the forerunners got jealous

[civic sundial]

Being an ancient species responsible for creating life in the galaxy doesn't mean they're incapable of making flaws or coming up with flawed concepts

[gusty basin]

Ofc as we saw when their own creation turned on them but why exactly is it bad?

[civic sundial]

Because it's been used to justify atrocities that Forerunners have committed, both against other species and their own people

[gusty basin]

Yes but that’s their fault not the precursors who made it for their own role if that makes sense it’s like ig religion some people do things for religions reasons (covenant) but maybe that’s not the actual purpose of the religion yet that’s what people make it off if I’m making any sense I’m kinda tired lol

[civic sundial]

Again, it's a test. One you pass by not claiming to have it or seeking it out

The Forerunners failed the test

[clever moon]

Is halo infinite campaign worth it should I buy?

[civic sundial]

I would say it is

Just note that the weapon balance in the campaign is different from what you see in multiplayer

[gray hawk]

so I tried h2 on legendary, guess what's just been uninstalled?

[civic sundial]

How far did you get?

[sullen owl]

I'm gonna guess sniper alley.

[civic sundial]

Indeed, that's my guess too

[sturdy kernel]

I hate that mission so much

[gray hawk]

jackal city

[warped yew]

Yes

[edgy forum]

Me who doesn’t understand Forerunner lore but wants to see more Spartan action: 🍿

[wild escarp]

I'm chasing steam achievements who can provide access to the halo plot

[lament pasture]

I wish 343 kept going with the evil cortana plot tbh

Some kinda sidequel game, between 5 and Infinite would be neat, if a pipe dream

[sinful grotto]

Get a month of gamepass and you can play something else if you don't like it win win

[smoky forge]

You can buy the campaign on steam

[jade pebble]

I get the EAC auth issue after every single game now. idk what to do

[swift iris]

You saw how vocal the fans got on that event and why things were changed since Wars 2 received positive feedback for the Banished. It's hard to keep committed when the negativity outweigh the positive.

[coarse dagger]

It's a known issue that's being looked into, there's a workaround posted on the Support site

Workaround: Close and relaunch Halo Infinite to clear the error and resume matchmaking. If playing in a fireteam with other players, the error may be cleared after the affected player leaves then rejoins the fireteam.

[jade pebble]

it doesnt work other than relaunching the game and its really frustraiting

wouldnt call turning it on and off a workaround

[lament pasture]

It just sucks that the more vocal older fans absolutely DESPISE when something is different than the halo they played in their childhood. They hate innovation and just want a second halo 3

[swift iris]

Yeah. Even Halo 3 ain't really all that.

[glacial tartan]

I wonder how true this is. I just want the game to be fully functional day one 😄

The game can be different but it should probably be complete

[lament pasture]

Microsoft doesn't like it when developers wanna take their time

[glacial tartan]

Sure, Microsoft can be blamed for things. But we have to admit there's a lot of mistakes regardless of who the corporate overlord is

[swift iris]

Because profit ends up being lost.

[lament pasture]

And we're just gonna ignore how rushed and incomplete halo 2 was? The entire missing third act? That was also Microsoft making the hard deadline

[glacial tartan]

Personally I separate campaign from multiplayer. The multiplayer experience of H2, despite its flaws (and serious hardware limitations at the time!), didnt require major changes to be functional.

[ruby knoll]

that's more on bungie blowing a good portion of time on the fake e3 demo

[sullen owl]

It was real and made of glitter.

[glacial tartan]

Please do not apply any blame to developers. Only Microsoft can carry blame here 😄

[ruby knoll]

no smoke and mirror

[sullen owl]

Smoke and mirrors are real enough.

Especially when it comes to theatrics.

[ruby knoll]

true

[swift iris]

There is a thing as being too ambitious.

[civic sundial]

Bungie are as much at fault for things being missing in Halo 2

Though I am glad the original third act and other story beats didn't make it into the game

[celest heron]

I think most would be fine with changes that compliment gameplay. when that continually doesn't happen, then they'd just default to what was decent.

[warped yew]

As much as the idea couldve been good. It ruined Noble team's sacrifice and everything halo 4 tried to set up

343 rly made that final scene between Cortana and Chief in Halo 4 impactful because at the time, we thought that was final moment between the 2. The last time we see Cortana.

Now that emotion with that scene is just gone because Cortana is back and bad for no reason (if you didn't read the books)

I still think it's not good to lock a majority of important lore behind the books instead of the actual game

[edgy forum]

I’m on the weird side of the spectrum and like reading the novels to get an insight rather than have games explain it to me. Gets my brain juice flowing.

Though the story of Cortana since 4 could’ve have improvised and expanded more in a linear direction. I think the Cortana in 4 was the last OG, then something happened with the remnants gathered to form a new model, and then it sends off a sentimental goodbye with a new AI partner paired.

[warped yew]

Halo 4 story was rly forced

[edgy forum]

I think the only character I’m connected with is Chief than Cortana since he’s been through a lot

[warped yew]

It should have been smooth fully transitioned like the 1st mission. Chief acts quiet like old times but as the game goes on, we get those halo 4 Chief traits

[edgy forum]

I like Chief to be more human and chatty than silent, so basically with Marcus Lehto the creator of Chief. It gives him a personality and I get to explore his side in the games along the novels. Some may not like that approach, however, it’s no surprise that main protagonists these days in video games speak.

Isaac Clarke did not talk in the original 2008 DS but in the remake he was given a personality and you bonded with him despite knowing him personally at least a bit & seeing his face

[warped yew]

Yes I agree. That's why my idea of smoothly transitioning the two takes on Chiefs finds a middle ground

Like old fans will start to understand why Chief starts acting more different if this is the way the story was handled

[warped yew]

I think with Issac Clarke it makes a bit more sense. He's an actual relatable human being put into a dire circumstance

[edgy forum]

I can vouch for the small majority because I’m a veteran since ‘03 and I like when Chief talks or not regardless because he seems so complex as a character lol

[warped yew]

Chief is an actual weapon trained since childhood (I'm not saying he can't have emotions)

Halo 2 and Infinite Chief is the best Chief. They have their moments

The iconic "Boo" and "No"

[edgy forum]

Fair enough

[edgy forum]

I think in Chief’s case he is the embodiedment of the player but still it’s something with the writing that connects between the player & Chief. I felt on the edge with reading Halo The Flood because I want to see Chief survive in the ring which he goes through extreme odds and almost certain death scenarios which I don’t see in the games because you control him 100% but it’s intriguing between the novels and the games how he’s handled.

[warped yew]

He is. Bungie states that the reason for Chief's entire character was to make the player feel immersed in the story

[vale swallow]

😭 it's simpler than that... I had my volume kinda low

whenever the announcer said "dessstinationnn moovved"
I couldn't hear the last syllable

he says that a lot, it's kind of annoying 😭

[warped yew]

that makes rly sense now

[edgy forum]

Idk why I think of Artyom when it comes to the player’s relatability because man talks in the loading screens and does not speak a word during gameplay which is interesting. He chooses to keep his narrative thoughts to himself and not with his peers.

[echo patio]

yo guys i think im gonna buy the ardent bundle in the shop from halo infinite

this is gonna be my first bundle

[swift iris]

Which doesn't work out due to the books. Infinite at least keeps it properly balanced with his responses.

[warped yew]

I mean yeah ofc. I was mainly talking about the campaign

Ok for clarification, if I'm talking about something in Halo, and it's in a campaign, I'm probably gonna be talking about the campaign

I don't rly care for the lore in the books because that's not why I love Halo. Gameplay is so good in CE and Infinite

[edgy forum]

That’s gonna be a challenge for my mentality because I’ve been reading a lot of the novels and my friend who’s a super encyclopedia about Halo usually intertwines the novels with the games to form a comprehended argument which I don’t blame him. That’s typically how my college trained brain goes the extra mile.

[swift iris]

I can respect that. The books are good reads.

[gray hawk]

Who "enjoyed" snowbound?

[edgy forum]

Me unironically because of the 2007 memes

Or Arby n The Chief

[gray hawk]

"veto this map"

also got warned for swearing, it's an M rated game

[jade pebble]

For me the argument of ”lets not say anything about the character or let them talk for the player to project themselves into them” never worked. Especially when its in such a heavily lore driven narrative where you take control of a known character, who has his own history, mannerisms, voice and personality. You cant be someone that already is. So to me chief has become a more likable and immersive character with 343s saga, because finally he has flaws that humanize him and he shares his thoughts and feelings on matters. He suffers loss and shows it. To me the ”faceless character to put yourself into” could never work when its someone like chief. Better example of that would be someone like V in cyberpunk. They have some limited murky backstory, but you largely control how they behave, look and move through the world.

Not to mention projecting yourself onto chief completely falls apart if you arent part of the male audience

Noble 6 is actually a way better character to do this with. And in a way I wonder if bungie even saw that as the ultimate ”project yourself here” character that chief never could be. The fact that you can customize the spartan totally added to all of it

[lament pasture]

I love the eric nylund trilogy of books

[warped yew]

Ok

[shell herald]

If I had a nickel for every time a Halo game sucked I'd have 2 nickels but it's weird it happened twice

[lament pasture]

Spartan Strike and Spartan Assault :)

[shell herald]

No. Halo 5 and Halo infinite

[warped yew]

Should say fps or mainline games cuz those 2 sucked as well lol

[lament pasture]

Halo 4 didn't suck?

[shell herald]

I preferred Halo 4 over 5

[warped yew]

It was mediocre at best

Campaign is rly decent once u get down to it

[lament pasture]

Campaign or multiplayer?

[shell herald]

Multiplayer

[lament pasture]

Damn

[shell herald]

And campaign

[lament pasture]

5 has the best multiplayer imo, but worst campaign

[shell herald]

NUH UH

[lament pasture]

YEAH HUH

[warped yew]

Halo 5 was meh

Multi-player btw. Also u should know u can't cuss

Cuz this server is family friendly for some reason

Is the flood family friendly?

[radiant sundial]

Facts

[lament pasture]

Best multiplayer: 5
Worst multiplayer: Reach/4
Best Campaign: CE/Reach/3
Worst Campaign: 5

[gray swan]

5 multiplayer wasn’t that good

[warped yew]

Is the Banished torturing someone (that griffin dude) family friendly

[radiant sundial]

Reach doesnt deserve worst mp

[gray swan]

Pay to win and they basically only focused on warzone because pay to win

[warped yew]

It's close though

[radiant sundial]

Technically we never saw him tourtured

[warped yew]

Doesn't changed the fact he was

[lament pasture]

The equipment kinda sucked imo, especially armour lock

[warped yew]

Doesn't grapple just make vehicles unviable??

Just grapple a wasp or banshee and they're done for

[gray swan]

Best campaign is 2 best multiplayer is pretty split between 3 and infinite. 3 just had so many more players so custom games was actually alive

[warped yew]

Infinite would've been the best MP so far if it wasn't for the launch lol

[gray swan]

For sure

[lament pasture]

Assumes you can hit that target

[warped yew]

Assume I can't lol

[gray swan]

Imfitie had so much potential that was just squandered

[warped yew]

We can only hope the next game learns from the previous' mistakes

If forge gets delayed again, it better be a month atleast after launch

[shell herald]

Reach was PERFECTION

In all aspects

[gray swan]

Idk, h5 was unfinished at launch too they just gave it actual constant updates

[warped yew]

If forge isn't there day 1. The game just killed a huge part of the community

[lament pasture]

My complaint is about bloom and armour abilities

[shell herald]

So you're talking about infinite

[gray swan]

Microsoft cares too much about short term profits to actually invest in their products long term unfortunately

[warped yew]

Yes. And I'm saying the next game better learn

[shell herald]

Battle passes ruined the gaming industry

[smoky forge]

Forge being day 1 allows dedicated fans to recreate maps for free and come up with neat new game types

[warped yew]

Yes a hundred percent

[smoky forge]

I don't understand why you would ever reject that

[gray swan]

Infinite really had the potential to bring halo back to the 1# spot especially seeing how many people played day one

[smoky forge]

I get they needed more time to get the scripting stuff working, but releasing a Forge that could only do simple map editing day 1, and adding scripting later, would have at least allowed the community to make more maps

[shell herald]

Check out the player count currently

[warped yew]

Is it like a big number?

[lament pasture]

The one thing I can't stand in the halo community is the bungie elitist doomers

[shell herald]

At least 200m downloads but there's like 50,000 concurrent players on steam

[warped yew]

Elaborate

[lament pasture]

It's what's on the tin

Just people that think halo is dead and such

[warped yew]

It's definitely a shell of its former self I'll tell you that

[shell herald]

Well infinite is the next ten years of failure

[smoky forge]

uh, there's less than 4k players on infinite on steam right now

[shell herald]

Even worse!

[warped yew]

People just don't get excited for Halo anymore unlike the old days

[smoky forge]

What hurts is how many awesome forge maps people have made

cool minigames, full campaign missions. And so many of them go unplayed

[warped yew]

When people will stay up midnight to play 1 game. That's a good game right there.

[shell herald]

Halo 3 days

[warped yew]

This is a true story btw. Alot of my guy friends skipped school 1 day just to play Halo 2 the day after it launched

[shell herald]

Why is my clock from Afghanistan beeping?

[warped yew]

You mean ticking?

??

[lament pasture]

I missed those days, starting halo in 2013 and not getting xbox live until 2019

[shell herald]

I got an Xbox 2 months ago but when I was younger I used to play halo 3 at my friend's house

[warped yew]

No I'm about when people actually stayed up till midnight to see Halo 2 launch

But yeah I agree. Playing halo into midnight :>

[shell herald]

Well that was massive

[lament pasture]

I'm aware, I'm saying I missed out on those days

Mostly because I wasn't born yet, but I digress

[warped yew]

It's ok

[gray swan]

I got my 360 day one launch in 2005 and got live in 2006, playing h2 and h3 online was so different than playing games today

[median helm]

Hi, it's me

[warped yew]

How much did you do this

[gray swan]

Party chat ruined people talking in game

[warped yew]

Pre game lobbies need to come back

[lament pasture]

I got my xbox 360 in 2016, but I'd played on my friend's xbox for like 3 years until then

[gray swan]

Yea the community features in the bungie games really made the game so much more fun

[warped yew]

Actually forget I said that

Yes

[lament pasture]

My family was not a wealthy one

[gray swan]

They should add a filter to mm that says chatty or somthing that turns off party chat so people who want to talk to each other can

[warped yew]

Yes I'm sorry. I need to think :l

[lament pasture]

It's cool

[warped yew]

Yeah I'm sorry

[lament pasture]

Nah you're good

[gray swan]

You still on the 360?

[lament pasture]

I have a series X, saved up for it

[gray swan]

Nice

[lament pasture]

Before that was an xbox one s

That's the one I used most

[gray swan]

It’s good that you didn’t get one of the old 360’s cause those things would last 2 years

I think I had 4 of them lol, luckily one got replaced for free but the first one I had I was too young to know I can get it replaced free

[lament pasture]

I always wanted a slim. Something about the design gives me that 2000s kid nostalgia

[gray hawk]

isnt the elite or slim the models you should go for?

[cyan orbit]

Hello.

[gray swan]

Slim or newer, the og model which the elite is just black all broke

I got the h4 360 slim and that thing still works

[lament pasture]

My dream versions for each gen are as follows: Xbox, 360 Slim, One X, and Series X

[gray swan]

Day one 360 for me broke 2 and a half years in and I didn’t know they added 3 year warranty so I got an arcade which is just 100$ cheaper without hard drive but I just moved my hard drive over. That one broke 2 and a half years later too but I got it replaced free, then I got the h4 360 slim and gave my brother by old 360 which broke shortly after lol, but then I traded it in for a discount on the og Xbox one

[lament pasture]

My 360E still works perfectly fine

[gray swan]

Yea after the og model 360 I’ve had no problems, h4 360 slim still works, og Xbox one still works, and my infinite series x still works

[median helm]

I'm on the og Xbox One (not Day One edition though), and it's been great, but Infinite hates it

[gray swan]

I got mine a year after launch for the Mcc

[muted mist]

Holy crap !! The higher the tours on mcc the amount of xp goes up soo much more.

[gray swan]

I noticed Mcc runs much better after getting the series x. Both my friend and me were on the Xbox one and would crash a ton with skins turned on

[lament pasture]

I certainly hope your series x works good, it's hardly even 3 years old

[gray swan]

lol yea but after the 360 3 years would be better than usual for those

I think ms is much better at hardware nowadays tho so it would be pretty bad if that happened again

[gray hawk]

I still miss mine

[lament pasture]

There is like an 18 year gap between the 360 and the series x tho

[lament pasture]

I wanna get a slim

[celest heron]

it still crashes on the series x with skins on

[lament pasture]

I haven't gotten a crash in mcc ever, even on xbox one

[median helm]

My 360 slim worked great for the 3 years I had it until I got my Xbox One, in 2014, it's going on 10 years

It also serves as my main media center, so it's on probably 12-14 hours a day

[lament pasture]

I'd use my 360 more if it formatted right with my TV

Idk if it's settings or if my screen is just too wide

[celest heron]

you're lucky then.

[lament pasture]

One of my favourite things is to figure out what the leg and arm customisations halo 5 armours have

For instance, Scout has innerplated forearms and outerplated legs, and EVA has ricochet arms and recruit legs

[gray hawk]

Is it petty of me to report people who kill farm in btb?

[lament pasture]

Wdym?

[gray hawk]

people who think they're helping the team by racking up kills in a objective based mode

[lament pasture]

Then yes, it's extremely petty

[gray hawk]

except they can just not waste peoples time by making it harder to get the objective

especially with how fast spawns are in btb

[lament pasture]

They can play the game how they wish. If they're having fun and not cheating or being rude, then let them be

[gray hawk]

"being rude"

by stalling out the match for others?

[lament pasture]

Got a problem with me saying that?

[gray hawk]

I do actually, if you're playing ctf or koth, the last thing I want is a group of kill farmers not helping

[lament pasture]

If I were playing ctf, the last thing I'd want is someone reporting me for daring to do something other than the objective

Just let people play the game

[gray hawk]

or just queue up for slayer, its selfish

[lament pasture]

Whatever, just don't report people for it

[gray hawk]

except I have the right to, if you're being selfish by just looking for kills and leaving the obj abandoned then its on you if the team loses

[lament pasture]

Why ask about it if you're just gonna argue when someone gives you an answer you don't like?

[gray hawk]

fair point sorry I exploded like that

Just wound up with how dense people can be in teamplay modes

[lament pasture]

It's a videogame. Let people have fun how they'd like to

[gray hawk]

its a video game yes, but people still want to win

as long the team is trying, I dont really feel bothered about losing

[lament pasture]

Sometimes people don't wanna mindlessly go for objectives, sometimes they wanna do their own thing

[gray hawk]

Maybe I just grew up around those who cared about doing objectives

especially with games such as battlefield

[lament pasture]

My view is that games are fun first, everything else second

[gray hawk]

agreed, should I just ease off with my competitive side

[lament pasture]

Yeah

[celest heron]

you're just wasting your time reporting them.

[warped yew]

We have all the time in the world

idk

[keen silo]

Farming for kills is definitely irritating but like. Eh? Not like stats matter at the end of the day unless you’ve got nothing better to worry about

[celest heron]

there's better things to do and 343 isn't going to do anything.

[warped yew]

If there were better things to do im sure yall would be doing that instead of talking in a discord server to someone whining about farmers

But I wasn't asking 343 to do anything anyway lol. It is what it is

I was just quoting someone lol

[celest heron]

oh, I thought you were responding to me, but my responses were about him reporting farmers.

[warped yew]

But like what does a majority of people who actually talk in this server do? Work?

[celest heron]

not sure what that has to do with someone wanting to report farmers or not.

[lament pasture]

I'm playing infinite rn

[warped yew]

No like seriously. Does anyone in this server have anything better to do then play a video game?

[lament pasture]

I wrestle, fish, go to work, school, etc.

[warped yew]

Is fishing first or school?

[lament pasture]

It's in no particular order

[warped yew]

Alr

Atleast your not just playing video games and work

[onyx latch]

no

[warped yew]

The guy or gal above me disagrees

Just stay healthy and fit yall

Wish anyone who sees this text have a good day or night

[keen silo]

Work, but even then barely. Office job is slow with large gaps in stuff to do

[warped yew]

Well I was expecting work yeah.

Ok now I'm going bye

[crimson berry]

Welp, at least my matches today were decent. Only played two, won back to back and stopped. :x

[ruby lake]

i can do art

[warped yew]

Like do you do something with it? Commission, painter, etc?

Or it's just a hobby

[ruby lake]

no i just

[warped yew]

Alr

[ruby lake]

do art and make a story abt it

(im also a writer)

i can also create
music

[warped yew]

Interesting

Alr

[neon gate]

isnt the shop supposed to change by now

[keen silo]

I think since the addition of Spartan points, the shop doesn’t refresh as often

[gusty basin]

In your opinion why did they make John so crap in halo 5 unless they said why

[white birch]

Next week

[shell herald]

How's it going

[slow walrus]

my last hour of gameplay summarised:
crash
crash
EAC authentication error
crash
EAC authentication error
EAC authentication error
crash

remove this sad excuse of an anticheat already

[frosty condor]

Are you submitting tickets?

[gusty basin]

Shouldn’t six get off reach? I mean a pelican could of stayed behind to pick her up after

[civic sundial]

The Autumn didn't have time to leave a Pelican for Six and wait for it to catch up before they jumped out the system

[gusty basin]

It would of taken like 2mins maximum what’s 2 mins maximum going to do the ship that was coming was destroyed I get they wanted off reach asap but still

A Spartan can change a battle or a war givin 6 she was the only other spartan to get hyper lethal would it have not been important to wait another say 2 mins maximum to get her on board? Her and chief could of done so much together I wonder what halo would of been if six got off reach

[delicate tide]

Facts they could have atleast tried

[gusty basin]

She needed to stay back to destroy the ship coming I get that and Emile was just KIA tho he didn’t look behind him if he did maybe he could of lived that’s something eles tho

After that they would of had time to pick her up and get her on board have a pelican stay behind

[delicate tide]

We could of had the ghost of reach

[gusty basin]

I mean I have a theory she wanted to die

[delicate tide]

https://youtu.be/xIW-gHzmhq0?feature=shared

There's a fan trailer

[gusty basin]

Well think her and chief on halo (CE) how much faster would of things been done

[delicate tide]

I wish was real

[gusty basin]

6 was Kia on reach
Were it so easy

[radiant sundial]

The fact that right after the ship was destroyed, an ARMADA showed up and promptly turned reach into glass

[delicate tide]

Would of been a badass story

[radiant sundial]

And 2 minutes is like two years ina fight with the covies, the PoA barely made it away as it was, the extra two minutes would've cookd it

[gusty basin]

Right after? Then the pillar would have had an issue but how quick did it take the pelican that had that one guy on it forgot his name to get back to the pillar it wouldn’t of taken long

[delicate tide]

Better than 5 or 4

[gusty basin]

That’s why I said max more then likely a minute or less

[civic sundial]

Hyper lethal is used to refer to all Spartans, not just Chief and Six

[radiant sundial]

If the PoA had left atmosphere and was in orbit, it would've taken alot longer than two minutes for the pelican to reach speed to get out of atmosphere, if it hadnt, it would've been killed trying to leave orbit

[gusty basin]

Yes that was changed (thx 343) but 6 and chief were the only two until 343 I mean could a Spartan IV do as much as a II or a III?

[civic sundial]

Yes

[radiant sundial]

Under the right circumstances yes

(And im 99% sure they have)

[gusty basin]

I’m saying the PoA waited like 30 seconds before taking off and the pelican going fast to we see that they can go fast

[civic sundial]

They couldn't risk the ship waiting 30 seconds when Covenant were heading to their location

[radiant sundial]

Not fast enough

[gusty basin]

So a Spartan IV could have done what the II and IIIs did? All the missions? He as fast and react as fast? And they are more emotional as they are normal men and woman rather then brainwashed kids (sounds weird)

[radiant sundial]

Yes, also have you met some soldiers?

[civic sundial]

Emotions aren't a weakness either

[radiant sundial]

Also, the spartans werent emotionless. They just knew to not let the emotions get in the way of what needed to be done

[civic sundial]

If anything, the S-IVs are gonna be more emotionally stable by virtue of having a proper upbringing

And having a lively personality isn't exactly something I would say is a problem with a Spartan if I encountered one

[gusty basin]

So what’s better a II or IV because from the sounds of it not trying to be rude your saying that the fight with lock and chief would go down like that normally?

[gusty basin]

Yes but the IVs could brake down givin they were not like the IIs and IIIs

[civic sundial]

Are there some IVs who are a bit much? Absolutely, but that's not representative of the entire generation of Spartan IVs

[gusty basin]

Like you see with the marines and the flood

[gusty basin]

My question is who wins in a 1v1 a II or a IV

[civic sundial]

Chief canonically is scared of the Flood

[civic sundial]

Whoever the writer wants to win the fight

[gusty basin]

Ofc but he doesn’t brake down like the Marines

[gusty basin]

Like lock and chief also do you have a 10 second timer?

[gusty basin]

But givin what they are capable of who wins?

[civic sundial]

Chief didn't see his comrades getting turned into Combat Forms in 343 Guilty Spark, that marine did. That's gonna mess with your head

[civic sundial]

Whoever the writer wants to win the fight

[gusty basin]

I mean he did more than likely in 2 and CE or was it 3? No it was 3 not 2

[gusty basin]

If the halo world was real who wins?

[civic sundial]

No clue, Chief and Locke are similarly skilled when it comes to combat

[radiant sundial]

Chief, bc experience (and bc he's just lucky), but a 1v1 doesnt mean that a S-IV couldnt to the things chief did

[gusty basin]

Highly doubt it

[civic sundial]

Do you want me to get down on my knees and blindly say Chief would win every fight?

[gusty basin]

Oh come on dumb bot

[radiant sundial]

A skillset, and experience using that skillset, are two very different things, which you should know

[gusty basin]

Never did I say chief nor every fight

A II vs a IV both random

[gusty basin]

Look my iq is lower then the number in your name you need to speak dumb to me sometimes

[civic sundial]

Whoever the writer wants to win

[radiant sundial]

At random it would probably be a tie

[gusty basin]

Like talking to a wall

[radiant sundial]

With the weight slightly in the II's favor

[gusty basin]

Doubt it the II would win 9/10

[radiant sundial]

Your forgetting that most IV's are already highly decorated vets with a lot of time served

[civic sundial]

You do know that the IVs are fully trained soldiers, right? They're not just random adults asked to become super soldiers from off the street

[radiant sundial]

They arent just fresh soldiers thrown on a table, given augs, and thrown in mjolnir

[gusty basin]

Yes ofc but still nowhere as good as the II or the IIIs

[radiant sundial]

Thats just not true

[civic sundial]

Edward Buck was said to "If he was any better, he'd be a Spartan" back before he became a IV

[radiant sundial]

The only difference between someone like major silva or the rookie for example, and chief, is the augmentations

The augmentations give them increased ability to do what they need to do, and mjolnir only amplifies that

[gusty basin]

How so? Do the IVs have the augmentations like the II and IIIs or better

[gusty basin]

Comparing an odst to a Spartan II and saying there is no difference other then augmentation is that right or?

[civic sundial]

By virtue of not needing to use kids, the IVs have the better and more humane augmentations

[gusty basin]

Wym?

[radiant sundial]

Thats not what im saying, what im saying is that you are VASTLY underestimating IV's

[gusty basin]

I mean being humane was out the window years ago lol

[radiant sundial]

Thats just not true either, IV's augments arent as stable as II's

Hence the tune ups to make sure the augments dont screw up

[civic sundial]

To be clear, better doesn't just mean it makes you even stronger. Better includes things like how much safer they are to use

[radiant sundial]

In this case, better does mean stronger

[civic sundial]

Better to need tune ups every once in a while than forcing kids to become child soldiers

[gusty basin]

Maybe but from my lack of knowledge and understanding of the II and IIIs I wouldn’t think IVs would be way better other then their amour but then the II and IIIs could be given it

[radiant sundial]

We arent arguing ethics here, so leave the subject alone

Your inserting something that has nothing to do with this slip

[gusty basin]

Safety was never a concern much anyway what matters was if it did the job if so then good as the time of the IIs

[radiant sundial]

They wouldnt be way better, they'd likely be equal, or slightly different, but their gear would compensate for that bc thats what its for

[gusty basin]

How would a IV be equal to a II or a III?

[radiant sundial]

Because of the fact that they were already soldiers with similar time enlisted, and usually under far worse circumstances than spartans

They didnt have spartans coming to give them a hand if things got rough

[civic sundial]

Safety should be a concern, better to figure out how to do something safely over and over than having something always be high risk

[radiant sundial]

Which is not the question here. so leave it be

[gusty basin]

Many didn’t there wasn’t a crap tone of them after reach and the IIIs were a throw away tool idk if I can say the word cos of the bot

[gusty basin]

Then the IIs wouldn’t be a thing

[radiant sundial]

III's were literally meant for suicide missions, so we dont really know how they would've done

[civic sundial]

When it comes to discussing the different augmentations the Spartans have, you can't ignore how the risks were reduced over time

[gusty basin]

Oh so it will let you say it

[gusty basin]

Is there any IIIs left? Ik there’s like almost no IIs left

[radiant sundial]

Your yapping about ethics and that using children is bad (it is) neither of which have any bearing on this discussion

[radiant sundial]

Yes, but not many

[civic sundial]

The IIs are a thing because at the time, they could not do it in a safer way, what was learnt from the IIs was applied to the IIIs and then in turn, what was learnt from the IIIs were applied to the IVs

[gusty basin]

More than the IIs or less?

[radiant sundial]

Far less

[gusty basin]

Dam

This timer is annoying

[radiant sundial]

Like maybe a fireteam or two iirc, im not 100% on the number tho

Jun, owen and the other girl from outpost discovery, and some of saber team, i believe

[gusty basin]

Dam well there is June to

[civic sundial]

You yelling at me over this just comes across as you being uncomfortable with this aspect of the Spartans, but if you ignore the fact that they used kids for two of the 4 generations, you can't properly talk about the augmentations and the effects they had on those subjected to the augmentations. You're coming across as someone uncomfortable with the realities surrounding those who underwent the procedures that made them Spartans

[gusty basin]

But back to the original question I still think that
A. 6 could of gotten on board if not then
B. It’s possible that she lived given we don’t see the stab and she would of moved and done stuff and hide out in a cave deep underground somewhere

[civic sundial]

Six was confirmed to have died from being stabbed, they couldn't have made it out alive

And hiding in a cave wouldn't do much when there's nothing they can do to survive, given the lack of food and safe atmosphere on a glassed planet

[radiant sundial]

Im not uncomfortable with the aspect, i really couldnt care less. Its a fictional universe. And we arent ignoring them using kids, we are questioning how much the augs improved their strength/tactical abilities, not the death rate or ethics of implementing them

[radiant sundial]

Also they would've died from other wounds and lack of medical attention

Spartans can take hella punishment, but they do need to have medical attention

Also, six's armor would've been mostly taken apart in the last cutscene, taking that much plasma fire would've destroyed his armor, and without a helmet it was only a matter of time

[radiant sundial]

Only the first one is possible, but then the covie ship would've just killed the PoA as it left orbit

[gusty basin]

Maybe maybe not

[radiant sundial]

Most definitly

Covie ships were faster, stronger, and in almost every way better than UNSC ships

[gusty basin]

How so

[radiant sundial]

It takes like 4 unsc ships to beat one

[gusty basin]

Then why didn’t it destroy the PoA

[radiant sundial]

At a loss of 3/4

[radiant sundial]

1. Six destroyed it 2. It was busy glassing i think, if it had noticed the PoA leaving it would've just destroyed it

I dont remember exactly what it was doing at the time

[gusty basin]

1. Oh that one i thought you were talking about the ones with shipmaster

2. It was going to destroy it anyway till 6 shot it down

3. Back to the pelican thing how fast would it take for a pelican to stay back pick 6 up and dock on the PoA as fast as it could and safely

[gusty basin]

About to glass

[radiant sundial]

To answer 3, way too long

[gusty basin]

You really think so?

[radiant sundial]

Yes

[gusty basin]

Longer than a minute or 30 seconds? To pick 6 up and dock and then for the PoA to take off

U good?

[civic sundial]

Pretty sure the glassing beam was going to be used to destroy the Autumn. No point wasting plasma torpedos on what was a stationary target at the time

[radiant sundial]

Why is it deleting my message lol

[gusty basin]

Dm me it

[radiant sundial]

Im just saying yes again XD

[gusty basin]

Unless it was going to take off then maybe

Yes

[radiant sundial]

It would've been too far to glass it iirc

[gusty basin]

Ha ha it doesn’t like you 😂

[radiant sundial]

Probably anti spam lol

[gusty basin]

Not at the speed it was going and then the shock wave of it + the heat

[civic sundial]

Maybe but the Covenant love to use their glassing beams regardless

[gusty basin]

Probably so I’m guessing you guys don’t have the 10 second timer?

[civic sundial]

And Keyes didn't want to risk the Autumn in a fight against a Covenant ship

[radiant sundial]

Glassing doesnt have that much of. Shockwave, and the heat wouldnt do much for a moment

[civic sundial]

Especially when it's in atmosphere and they have such important cargo on board

[radiant sundial]

We do, but it wouldnt like you repeating the same thing over and over

[radiant sundial]

This too

[gusty basin]

Yes but in time it would of with the speed it was going

[radiant sundial]

Not how that works buddy

[gusty basin]

There were none after the big one was destroyed

[civic sundial]

That's why they took off, they had a window to escape

[gusty basin]

I mean the spear of the ship it was going at the heat would of gotten stronger and it would start to damage the ship before destroying it

[gusty basin]

And Say 30-1 wouldn’t do much

[radiant sundial]

Theres no part of a ship called the spear

[civic sundial]

Let's put it like this, you're cornered by someone because you were carrying a package and got separated from a friend. You know the attacker has friends on the way to help them, but you managed to knock them out. Would you;
A) Stay and wait for your friend to find you, risking being attacked by your attacker's friends
B) Escape from the area so that you have a chance at hiding from the attacker's friends

[warped yew]

It doesn't even matter because in CE, another cruiser followed the Autumn to the ring in minutes

[civic sundial]

Not just one cruiser

[warped yew]

My bad but yeah

Think how much faster it would've been for the other cruisers to get to the Autumn if the Autumn had waited more

[civic sundial]

Indeed, they'd have likely not made it out of the system

[gusty basin]

Could Cortana be fixed? As chief said in 4 she made her she can fix her
Could she have fixed her? Can A.I be fixed from rampancy and why does it happen

[radiant sundial]

No, not really

[sullen owl]

Chief probably truly believes Halsey could have done it. She's the Halo universe's top mind when it comes to Spartan stuff.

With all of the other ~space magic~ going on, she probably would have been written to be able to.

But first we need a forerunner artifact, Chief, go retrieve it quickly.

[sleek hatch]

@frosty condor good headhunter game!

[sullen owl]

And that'd be the MacGuffin to fix Cortana.

[civic sundial]

Human Smart AI last 7 years before rampancy begins (If something else doesn't happen to cause it). While Chief thinks Halsey could fix it, it's unlikely she would be able to

[gusty basin]

Why couldn’t she? She’s different use was made with a copy of Halseys brain no? Their for different

[ivory lily]

I mean, it just means chief has to wipe her mind every 7 years

[civic sundial]

Being made from a cloned brain doesn't change the limitations

[civic sundial]

If that worked, the UNSC would do it with all their Smart AI

[frosty condor]

ggs bub!

plz don't share the no scope you got on me

[radiant sundial]

#1076327824924872755 frfr

I wanna see that

[gusty basin]

I wonder what would of happened if humans found the grunts instead of the covenant

[sleek hatch]

I ended my stream right before the match. Also I'm not thay type of content creator. I never post clips(I have a lot of sniper clips on my streams).

I'm here to help people get better

I was also going for a skullamanjaro.

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/rdj-relief-iron-man-robert-downey-jr-gif-21020309

you're pretty good homie, keep it up!

[vernal kindle]

i wanna get betterrr https://medal.tv/games/halo-infinite/clips/ixyTUTsAS-3B-xfnr/d13379Q0bQuJ?invite=cr-MSxTM1QsNDE2MTE3LA

[edgy forum]

Hey we are in the same server

[broken sparrow]

This is how I rate the halo franchise in a couple of different categories. This is my opinion and I'm curious to hear yours.

Story:
Halo 2
Halo 4 (I know I can already hear the angry keyboards)
Halo 3
Halo Infinite
Halo CE
Halo Reach
Halo 3 ODST
Halo 5

Multiplayer:
Halo 5
Halo Infinite
Halo 2
Halo Reach & Halo 4 (It's a tie for me)
Halo CE
Halo 3
Halo 3 ODST (Don't know if it had a multiplayer or not)

Forge:
Halo 5 (It was easier to use)
Halo Infinite
Halo Reach
Halo 3
Halo 4

Customization:
Halo Reach
Halo 4 & Halo Infinite (Hard to decide which is better)
Halo 3
Halo 5

[civic sundial]

ODST didn't have a dedicated multiplayer, all it had outside of campaign was Firefight (Being the first game to feature it as a mode)

[tribal shoal]

how would you rate things campaign-wise, or does that fall under story?

[broken sparrow]

thank you and honestly i can't belive i forgot about fire fight

[broken sparrow]

For me i think like level design, difficulty etc. all fall under story for me as a broad term.

[tribal shoal]

dayum

halo 4 being up that high is even more strange to me then

[broken sparrow]

i dunno i think i'm a bit bias with halo 4 it was my first halo and also the first game to make me cry the story hit hard yes the enemies were bullet sponges but i still enjoyed it a lot.

[tribal shoal]

fair to acknowledge your bias, i would probably put ODST much higher in story than it really should just because it was one of my first halos and i liked the atmosphere

plus... nathan fillion is great

[broken sparrow]

the atmosphere was amazing in ODST loved the jazz

[tribal shoal]

ODST actually gave me an appreciation for jazz, and im not even kidding

started listening to dizzy gillespie after playing it and thought "yeah, jazz can actually be good"

[broken sparrow]

i know for me when i put ce, reach, and odst in that order i really think they are all extreamly close like theres not a huge difference in how much i enjoyed each one

[lapis steppe]

ODST felt like Cry of Fear meets Halo and it was really cool

[glacial tartan]

ODST probably one of the most fun co-ops as well

[sleek hatch]

Do you want a vod review? Dm me

[cold agate]

I need help my game crashes a lot during load up

[sullen kiln]

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[cold agate]

It’s ok I plan to refer here for help

[lapis steppe]

is there a lore explanation for why back smacks are always lethal

[keen silo]

Getting punched in the spine or back of the head by a super solider feels pretty lethal, even in power armor.

[lapis steppe]

oh so it's just a spartan crushing the opponent's spine/skull

[keen silo]

Pretty much. On the off chance it doesn't kill you, you're left paralyzed in the middle of a combat zone which is a whole other set of problems

[onyx latch]

It's a war game with set rules. It's either a rule in the system or a gameplay thing.

Spartan armor is strong enough to take multiple full force punches from another armored Spartan without the operator really taking meaningful harm, so I lean towards it only being a gameplay thing.

[lament pasture]

Or why headshots from the pistol are instakills too, even from behind

[lapis steppe]

there's a whole section of the spinal area that isn't covered by armor, that's probably the targeted area

[lapis steppe]

shooting through the visor when the shields are down

[onyx latch]

I mean, the 'fabric' of MJOLNIR is still heavy armor.

[lament pasture]

even from behind

[onyx latch]

The entire bodyglove is a titanium alloy weave.

The helmet itself is perfectly capable of taking direct hits from plasma and bullets. Half of Linda's comm gear gets melted off at one point in a novel and it doesn't actually hurt her.

[keen silo]

This one has always bothered me a little yeah.

[onyx latch]

Gameplay concessions.

[lapis steppe]

the bullet bounces off the helmet, ricochets off the walls, and bounces right back to the front

[onyx latch]

Kat's weird explicitly because that really, really shouldn't have done anything to her, but in the exact same game marines wear helmets that stop needle rifle rounds dead.

[lament pasture]

My guess is that it's more of the force of the round knocking into the head than the actual bullet itself

[onyx latch]

Really we've never actually played as a lore accurate Spartan tbh

[lapis steppe]

does Doom 2016 count

[keen silo]

No?

[lapis steppe]

i'm joking

[onyx latch]

It'd take things up to a sniper rifle to actually penetrate a lot of the armor, and even then you likely couldn't break shields.

[lament pasture]

Neither did we play as an accurate ODST, legit just a spartan lite in that game, complete with shields

[onyx latch]

I considered trying to make a 'lore accurate' mod for Reach or 4 that had persistent damage and buffed speed, health, etc

But ultimately I didn't, so.

[onyx latch]

I mean, I do know a Spartan could absolutely rip a man to pieces like Doomguy does, lmao.

[lapis steppe]

it feels like the closest thing we have, anyways

taken to it's most brutal extreme

[onyx latch]

Like, when they just snap necks, they're honestly doing a kindness. A spartan could happily just... Rip off a limb, rip you in half, etc etc

That's the constant with literally every Spartan, they're just freaking blenders in melee range.

[civic sundial]

And those that use knives are no doubt even more deadly

[onyx latch]

A IV ripped a brute's intestines out after she had a third of her body broken by a ghost splattering her. By hand.

[keen silo]

Spartans are knife pitchers with legs, understood

[onyx latch]

Specifically, she did that by punching him.

Not grabbing and ripping.

[onyx latch]

Eh, I don't track that tbh. About the same against most things, maybe a bit shorter and cleaner.

[civic sundial]

I'd rather have the clean death honestly

[onyx latch]

Like, getting hit by a car is about as deadly as getting poisoned by something that kills you in seconds, one just leaves a prettier corpse.

[civic sundial]

Fair point. I know what it's like to be hit by a moving vehicle and it ain't fun

[onyx latch]

The Spartan OC I tend to write doesn't really use knives and just... Rips things off or twists them too far. Because I like having writing exercises that go into that sort of mentality, because it's intended to be a form of pragmatism.

Plus I imagine having your gun ripped out of your hand by a Spartan while you're shooting it is likely going to snap a few fingers.

[civic sundial]

Or crushed fingers

[keen silo]

I wonder how difficult it would be to continue a relationship with someone post-IV augments. I know Buck briefly mentions it during his novels.

Like, how delicately would the augmented person have to handle their partner in order to not accidentally pulverize their hands

[onyx latch]

Likely not that hard. Spartans have even more muscle control than a normal person from the word go.

Course, I imagine, for most IVs, they don't really think much about relationships-Owing to the fact that their entire lives are effectively war now.

[keen silo]

Good point. I hadnt considered their increased muscle control.

[onyx latch]

And for many IVs that wasn't even really much of a change for them.

[edgy forum]

I’ll make the next generation of Spartans. Spartan GEN 5

We’ll have the II’s paired with the IV’s to create their offsprings

[keen silo]

You're not thinking big enough my friend. Pair up the III's and IV's. Make Spartan VIIs, the holy number

[white birch]

It is always nice to know that the "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom forced heart removal" tactic is something Spartans can do

[civic sundial]

That's something that I hope I never see. Could barely make it through that specific scene in that film (I like hearts being on the inside of a body)