halo-discussion

[sullen owl]

Lack of direction does blow. Would have loved them to not hop on the Chief train as their first big game, feel the waters out with their ideas first, and then once they perfected what the community enjoyed, then bring in Chief.

[agile lodge]

A dated engine that they really wanted to move away from but couldn’t cause of the Xbox limitations, having sometimes really bad crunch but overall creating solid products, and overall a better work flow and culture that weren’t always pinned directly to appease to the producers and suits pockets.

[wind delta]

It was more impressive what they could do of course, but nowadays you need to basically multiply the budget and work by 10-50x to get a masterpiece

[sullen owl]

Outside of the faces, Halo 3 looks solid even today.

[agile lodge]

Yeah, I do think Halo already has a the capacity to create stories that don’t involve chief in it. Halo ODST and Reach to a lesser extent are good examples.

[wind delta]

Bungie back then was good, partially because the standards and monetization models were a lot more fair, so devs could actually take the time to make something good

[agile lodge]

Halo Wars I liked the story, never played 2 tho.

[sullen owl]

Do it.

Right now. Drop what you're doing and install it.

It's fantastic.

[wind delta]

That it does, I wouldn't complain if a new game released looking like this if it was accompanied with good gameplay

[agile lodge]

Right, although I wish we got the engine bungie wanted to use, I’m sure they could’ve done way more with the halo franchise ngl.

[wind delta]

Then again, lets say they take it to modern day

Destiny and Destiny 2 either wouldn't be made, or we wouldn't even get Halo games, and whatever path they go, eventually we get to the current Bungie which would literally kill their new releases because of their greed and incapability

[sullen owl]

Exactly. There's zero need for every game to try being the next Crysis, just make a good game with a solid art style. Hyper realism can be cool, but it feels like it gets in the way visually.

[agile lodge]

Almost every modern unreal engine game

[wind delta]

I much prefer a good artstyle, which is why I like Halo as a series

[agile lodge]

Got that unreal effect that makes them all look the same and I know it’s because the lack of strong direction than the game engine itself.

[wind delta]

Pretty much everything that matters is highly memorable in both appearance and how its written

Halo Infinite looks great, but it probably wouldn't if Bungie hadn't given them the artstyle's framework

[agile lodge]

Eh, I think the lighting is crap in that game

[wind delta]

Im talking more in terms of models ig

[agile lodge]

Makes the world and environments feel very flat. It doesn’t pop or articulate anything memorable.

I could remember something about requiem although I didn’t like the art style for halo 4 but that’s because the lighting was beautiful in that game

[agile lodge]

Yeah, but the lighting and other effects is really what sold Halo, they brought life to them.

[wind delta]

Fallout New Vegas was an interesting case

[agile lodge]

For sure

[wind delta]

Very few things particularly pop like that, but I still think having those few things that do just makes them that much better

Like you're walking around this bleak, yellow wasteland and out of nowhere you finally get to New Vegas itself, literally unforgettable

[agile lodge]

But yeah Halo infinite’s lighting and texture mapping is atrocious, which sucks because they actually made the art style really good this time around

They defended it by saying “we’re trying to copy the looks of the old games” but the old games still had detail, they weren’t looking like it belonged to mega bloks.

[wind delta]

I could probably hold complaints for the lighting, as on occasion it is actually pretty nice looking. But man, it'd pretty much be Red Dead Redemption 2's main competitor in looks if that lighting was good

[wind delta]

Wish this one was more stable anyways, I hate how often it'll crash for nothing

[agile lodge]

Yeah, I just wish they implemented the dynamic lighting better cause man it is just very flat to look at

[agile lodge]

It’s a shame, it’s one of the best fall out games

Probably next to Fallout 1 or 2.

[wind delta]

Its arguably the best fps Fallout, maybe next to FO3 but apparently the pc port sucks

[agile lodge]

Yeah it’s better with mods like most Bethesda published games

[wind delta]

Also less stable unfortunately

I can go maybe 20 mins until a crash on a good luck streak, but anyways I think Halo might be able to survive if 343 finally gets their act together with the next

[safe schooner]

YALL i decided to play halo wars 1 for the first time today, and the beginning cutscene is on this day

[pure vault]

That's great timing. Also, nice Soundwave pfp.

[humble berry]

Is bot bootcamp just gone now?

[finite river]

yea no reason for that to be around with firefight out

[humble berry]

uh, it was meant to be a practice mode for the basic modes, firefight doesn't exactly fit that anymore?

or at all

[onyx latch]

It tended to get used more as a bot killing meat grinder.

[real stratus]

Dustin Echos.

[rocky cipher]

lmao this game, get dumpsted by a 4 stack in quick play and then the mm has the insane thought to put me up against them again as if I have a chance the second time

[real stratus]

Soundwave??? Where!!??!

[nocturne shore]

anyone know what happened with the iratus story and the seasonal cutscenes?

[onyx latch]

Axed due to the difficulty of continuing it.

[echo dagger]

Is it just me or does halo 5's art style look more like destiny than halo?

At least from what I've seen

I'm never playing that game

[sage beacon]

Best gamemode for battlepass xp my friends?

[finite river]

firefight or btb

i prefer firefight cuz its a consistent xp rate

[sacred mantle]

Approximately how long do yall think I needa play campaign to get Inheritor (im Captain rn) and yes genuine question 💀

[noble urchin]

if there's one thing 343 needs to change for the next game, it's bring back thicc spartans

[random ferry]

Is there any way of getting the Covenant Frontline coating currently?

[crystal iron]

Just keep checking twitch drops as they randomly released it again a few times not too long ago

[olive brook]

I’d say super fiesta or swat

[crystal iron]

honestly this take has probably been done to death so many times already, but . .

you know what I’d love to see come out of halo in the future, as far as the games go? more ODSTs, hell even a second game centered around another team of them like with Alpha - Nine

[jovial needle]

nice game crashed launching forge sick game

[barren idol]

Is there a dig site discord

I am trying to figure out if it’s dead or not

[jovial needle]

all these sick maps in the game I feel like im always been a small portion of them

[jovial needle]

any mods that remove AI limits in forge and budget limits?

or any good mods for AI in forge at all that maybe adds different units and such

[simple violet]

Amazing how goated h4 is after playing through it again

[simple violet]

Infinite is finally on sale on steam, so I’ll probably give that another run as well

(Campaign)

[waxen karma]

wut da

meh messages

[coarse dagger]

This isn't the place for that

[livid trench]

When do challenges reset for East coast timezone on infinite?

[coarse dagger]

Roughly 5 hours from now

[winter adder]

Hey guys is halo infinite lagging for anyone at the moment?

[frosty condor]

Challenges reset on Mondays now?

I thought they reset on Chewsday, innit?

[coarse dagger]

Oh, I was looking at Daily 😂

Yeah weekly is tomorrow

[frosty condor]

[jagged crescent]

Aw man I just realised the campaign coatings aren’t available for mk v

[frosty condor]

[glad trellis]

Split-gate (basically Portal and halo mixed) also looks and feels like Halo 5

[onyx latch]

Having played both, no.

Splitgate has goofier fortnite style cosmetics, came out years AFTER 5 did.

Literally has a playable furries, cactusmen, zombie pirates, etc.

[onyx latch]

Also, just you.

Destiny has a lot of emphasis on cloth. 5 has next to none, except for the gloves and Seeker's body having cloth panels.

Even Titans are festooned with capes and straps and ridiculous shoulders with the exception of a scant few sets.

[coarse dagger]

I actually liked Destiny's customization options, for the time I played, it was just annoying that I couldn't always wear the look I wanted. If I did, it meant I was too under leveled to do anything - which was pretty much constantly anyway

[onyx latch]

I'd problably like Titan armor more if it had more conservative pauldrons.

There was this D2 launch set that had these relatively small crystal-looking shoulders, in my short experience with D2, I think that was my favorite set.

[coarse dagger]

D2 I think is the only game I regretted buying DLC for
I think I did like 3 raids, but like 2 years after the launched - I was just constantly too low a level, playing by myself. Felt like a chore trying to do anything

[simple violet]

That’s my biggest issue with destiny. It’s way to grindy and I don’t have the time to invest the amount of hours needed to enjoy like I use to

Maybe that’s just cause I’m getting older too tho

[open umbra]

Also the content vault in D2 is such a pain.

[simple violet]

But with halo, I play one match and get free dopamine

[coarse dagger]

Pew pew bang bang stuff was still a load of fun though, doing crazy spins in the ghost and throwing nova bombs (or whatever it was that D2 changed that to)

[simple violet]

True esp with friends, I think when I turn my brain off and enjoy it for what it is instead of the min/max mindset it’s infinitely more fun

[smoky wave]

Warlock enjoyer?

[coarse dagger]

Warlock D1, Tried out Hunter in D2 but also ran Warlock

[smoky wave]

Sameee, was warlock in D1 then tried titan in D2 but changed to warlock in the end

[white birch]

I wish to purge the xenos from our solar system.
How am I supposed to do that if all I can do is "throw fist" or "swing knife/staff/shoot gun better?"

No. To ensure proper purgation, you must rely on fire and fury!

(Read; ALL OF THE WARLOCK SUPERS)
Yes, even well. Because Well makes you...basically unkillable.

[civic sundial]

I think my biggest regret regarding D2 was not having anyone to play with. Got real lonely quickly

And now half the stuff I enjoyed isn't even in the game anymore

[stoic sand]

anyone keyboard and mouse can help me with something

[crystal iron]

guys is it bad that after my favorite series ended i decided to spontaneously do a relisten of all soundtracks for it that are together like 7 hours long

finally coming to PlayStation

[velvet dirge]

allegedly

[near tiger]

imagine

[slender bridge]

I mean, player count wise, it’ll be good if mcc is getting ported to PS

I doubt we’ll get a PS exclusive game in return

I’m not really “upset” about mcc for PS if it does happen but then again, I’m not fully open to the idea

[crystal iron]

next halo will be day one on PlayStation. this will be the last generation of Xbox

[slender bridge]

Just like the sega genesis all over again….

[crystal iron]

indeed

[slender bridge]

I mean, if Xbox is meeting its end, only Nintendo and Sony will be the last companies remaining in its whole “console war” shenanigans

[thorn sierra]

just found a teabaging jackal in halo 3 in the middle of nowhere

[slender bridge]

Huh.

What mission?

[thorn sierra]

the ark

[ruby knoll]

wut

[safe schooner]

Soundwave superior

[midnight tree]

they should call big team battle in infinite big team slayer since nobody ever plays obj

[jovial needle]

should call every game mode slayer then lul

[midnight tree]

the amount of teammates ive had in the past 2 hours that ignore obj to pad their kd is mind boggling

[jovial needle]

haha mine do the same thing but go negative

[worn iron]

That or missing one weekend meant you were significantly behind on gear/loot lol

[worn iron]

definitely glad to see the playerbase increase

[civic sundial]

No joke, because I took a break for a season, I was unable to get loot and lore I wanted to get. That was the final nail that got me to stop playing

[worn iron]

Yeah I played the Leviathan raid and never picked it up again

We ran that for entire months, every Saturday

[near tiger]

halo chat and were talking about destiny..... , also the day halo goes to playstation is the day i stop playing video games, im so tired of the whole xbox troupe of "oh xbox is failing" and the argument of "but halo on playstation would boost its popularity and sales and population!"

[echo dagger]

Wait halo is going to playstation?

That's so stupid we're gonna have like one xbox exclusive after that

[crystal mortar]

Guys does mcc hate windows 11 or something

[ruby knoll]

at most i can see Microsoft throwing an xcloud client onto PlayStation

[near tiger]

i dont even see that, halo is microsofts poster boy, they lose it, they lose all hope of beating PS sales

im just tired of seeing everyone in this server talk about it likes it s a real option, like its not going to happen, and the idea that xbox will collapse is even dumber as microsoft will just pour money into the company's to keep it afloat and keep making them money, like people forget microsoft funds xbox and microsoft makes most if not all operation system for corporations and including gov stuff, xbox aint leaving, and then people comparing this to sega is wrong to, sega never even got as big as microsoft. genuine question..why would microsoft let xbox let go of its poster boy and sell out its games when it just spent all this time gathering companys and the such and just pour 5 mill into infinite?

[lilac burrow]

just had the most annoying glitch on oddball, I dropped the ball to attack someone but my gun just wouldnt fire

anyone else had that?

[near tiger]

multiple times unfortunately

[crystal mortar]

I got it to run one time and it's not working anymore wtf

is there some data sync issues

[coarse dagger]

Nothing of the sort has been announced

[echo dagger]

Oh ok

[coarse dagger]

The rumor mill is just doing its usual overtime

[near tiger]

i hate it, make it stop dad

please, its killing me

[jovial needle]

wait you cant spawn AI banshees in forge?

[real pasture]

Does anyone know if you can do the new infinite weekly ultimate in customs? The challenge says PVP, not matchmaking?

[jovial needle]

kind of lame

[crystal mortar]

i dunno

Hey can someone please help me

MCC refuses to work properly

idk if it's because i'm on windows 11 or what

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[crystal mortar]

this does not help me

oh wait

i'm on windows 11 help

[coarse dagger]

Make a post in #1075989764026675210 with details of your problem

[crystal mortar]

oh wait hold on

wait wiat wait

this guide is telling me to navigate to a nonexistant folder wth

wait

[crystal mortar]

yeah no this didn't help me at all

[coarse dagger]

^

[rough field]

Just me or rn I’m getting major packet loss and jitter on infinite

[lusty summit]

Is anyone’s forge crashing their game?

I can’t even load up a blank map like Arid without my series x going back to the Home Screen.

[jovial needle]

for some reason I keep hitting max AI budget with only 4 Phantoms carrying 6 troops, should be 24 AI? but idk I have no turrets on them and even if the Phantoms counted themselves its still only 28

[agile lodge]

They have been losing in the console market since Xbox one

They said they have been losing more money than making with them too, there’s more profit in their services than anything else

They stopped caring about quality exclusives and stuff like that, this would be really good for the Xbox brand since it’s more of service than a console

[near tiger]

incorrect entirely, xbox said they lost the console war but that hasnt been there priority at all recently

moving and just abandoning ship after fighting the legal battle to acquire cod entirely would be the worst decision besides, Microsoft isnt gonna fight a legal battle for ownership of something just to bail out on the thing they just fought over, that's wasting money

[limpid lance]

Wonder what'll happen with Halo regarding this insane stuff happening at Microsoft/Xbox

[near tiger]

nothings even happening lmao

[limpid lance]

Phil Spencer just announced they're gonna have a talk next week on what'll happen
He didn't deny the reports

[near tiger]

he didnt confirm them either

[limpid lance]

It's legit, let's be real
Microsoft's probably going the Sega route

[near tiger]

again, yall really think the towel after they just fought for the rights to cod

literally just a rumor and its got no base in it at all

[coarse dagger]

It's policy for Xbox to not comment on rumours

It's also not really relevant for here at the moment

[near tiger]

gotcha ill move on my bad

[exotic vigil]

Anyone know if 343 has said anything about fixing the H2A frame rate issues

[rough field]

I’m just discovering server issues today jitter and packet loss.

[white birch]

People gotta stop believing rumors

Whatever happens happens. And guess what?
it doesn't effect your life one bit
Not outside of Fandom stuff

[amber burrow]

[jagged crescent]

How long would it take (roughly) to get 100% on the campaign? I just finished the main missions and finished at 40% completion after 10 hours

[analog salmon]

if you're on Series X or One X, go into Settings > Video > Halo 2, the scroll down to Fidelity Fx Super Resolution and set it to Quality (Series X) or Performance (One X)

that lowers the internal resolution from 4k to 1440p (Series X) and 1080p (One X)

[exotic vigil]

Thanks dude

Is that a fix or just slightly better because I think I’ve done something like that before

[analog salmon]

its a fix for Series X, while it just makes the game actually playable on One X

also the setting only affects Halo 2's anniversary visuals in campaign, it doesn't affect classic visuals or Halo 2AMP

[jagged crescent]

Also do the weapon variants in the campaign have any changes or are they just skins

[analog salmon]

on Series X you might still have fps drops in 120hz mode, but in 60hz mode its a rock solid 60fps@1440p
so if you want 120fps you might wanna use Performance (1080p) if Quality (1440p) isn't great

[signal ivy]

they function different than their standard counterparts

[exotic vigil]

Ok thanks

[jovial needle]

they got the logic down to have Phantoms land and drop off troops and vehicles in Forge why not give us the option to do the same thing with Pelicans??

and Spirits for that matter I mean theyre using in Campaign

[finite river]

because all ai programming is ripped from campaign

its also why marines cant drive vehicles

[agile lodge]

They aren’t fighting over ownership, they’re simply offering their services, cod is part of their service now

[magic igloo]

I’m so done with this game

I’ve wasted the past three hours doing quick play to complete a win 1 match challenge

[finite river]

just play firefight

[magic igloo]

Every game I have one AFK teammate and the rest are copper while I fight onyx

[magic igloo]

That counts?!

[finite river]

all weeklies do in firefight

[sage beacon]

Bros whats the best gamemode for battlepass xp

[finite river]

btb or firefight

i like firefight cuz its consistent xp rates

[humble berry]

best answer imo is whichever you have fun with

also Infection if you're popping off

[rugged quartz]

Do you have gunners?

[jovial needle]

no gunners or even the nose turret

do vehicle with no one in them count towards the limit?

or the actual Phantoms?

[rugged quartz]

I dont think the phantom should count. And vehicles on map dont either

[jovial needle]

ya idk I have like 8 friendly marines too but they usually die before the wave comes in and it still will say its maxed out

and some of the wave wont spawn like 3 of them

[jade needle]

Are there plans to expand UI elements in Forge?

For power equipment, visual indicators are super useful. OS shows on your shield bar, the QT has that bar showing how long you have. I'd love to use things like that for custom equipment.

ESPECIALLY the timer bar from the Translocator. Would be SUPER useful for time-based custom equipment.

[jade iron]

can anyone tell me if the reckoning pass is worth it, i love anything flood related but it doesnt feel like theres alot of flood related cosmetics here

[slow walrus]

it's worth it in the sense that when you complete it, you get all your credits back

[jade iron]

not too worried about that, just want flood cosmetics and it looks like its the only way to get them

[slow walrus]

you get the floodified noble 6 armors which I'm a fan of, a kit too but that's whatever

there are a few other flood bundles in the store if you look through the items on the mk5b core

[jade iron]

wouldnt it better value to buy the pass

[empty rapids]

i will wait over a minute for a match, please just stop giving me games where i am forced to carry

infinite has the worse sbmm i have ever seen

[slow walrus]

it's cheaper for sure

[jade iron]

only downside i see is theres only one floodified weapon, if i want more i need to buy more bundles

[vapid marten]

There are plenty of one-shot things which deserve a complete set, but are left hanging

[stark valve]

servers down for anyone else??? (im new i got no clue)

[onyx latch]

I'm actually pretty annoyed in hindsight that we never actually got a floodified redacted records or Noble wrath from that pack.

We got a weird meatsuit coating for the not Emile and a weird yellow and red camo for the Flood Six V2. Seems odd to have two options for floodified Mark Vb, as well.

Personally, I think they should've gone with a Floodified Mark VII Helmet that actually lacks a head in the helmet and a blown up visor, just having a blown out hole to show that Gallows went off.

[crystal iron]

is it just me or does anyone else want flood firefight back ?

[agile lodge]

The fact they went for a flood halo reach look is weird

[onyx latch]

It's just the usual Reach fan equal attention cake. I'd be surprised if they didn't.

Oh, btw, in case you didn't notice, flood farndale is available on every Reach helmet.

[agile lodge]

There’s so much halo reach catering

It’s so dumb, leave reach alone. It served its purpose you don’t need to keep recalling the events of reach over and over again

It’s like tattooine in Star Wars

[jade iron]

pay 10 bucks and get a flood shotgun, then pay 4000 coins to get a rocket launcher and a sniper

really want a pistol but havent found one yet

[last dust]

almost done ODST. yeah this is still my favorite Halo game

the atmosphere and dialogue are top tier

[onyx latch]

I think the nature of the game is kinda what limits a lot more creative planning in terms of what's added. Kind of shooting itself in the foot.

[last dust]

they cater to halo reach fans because reach was and still is INSANELY popular. its easy money.

[onyx latch]

Which is ultimately a short sighted affair if you're actually wanting to innovate or do anything new.

They're also mostly doing that with free content, which exacerbates the issue.

[last dust]

companies will always milk the popular thing, sadly

id like to see ODST get more love from 343 but aside from it being in MCC i dont think they really acknowledge it much.

[thorn sierra]

i just completed halo reach to halo 2 in one month and today i finished halo 3 and im going to halo 3: ODST and halo 4

[last dust]

nice. ive been replaying them as well

boyfriend and i are going through the MCC then after halo 4, we're doing 5 and infinite

he hinted at buying me infinite so i wouldnt have to coordinate time on my roommates xbox

[thorn sierra]

i wish infinite campaign wasnt a DLC (bc what if it updates or something? i will have to buy the game again)

[last dust]

yeah its weird that infinites campaign is a dlc for the multiplayer.

[celest heron]

nice bf

[last dust]

yeah hes great. plus im already gonna have to coordinate time on my roommates xbox for halo 5 and thats gonna be a pain.

idk why 343 wont just port 5 to pc. its the only mainline halo game we're missing

i swear its like they want us to forget that it exists

[coarse dagger]

Time and resources

[last dust]

i get that it takes time to port things, but its been so long and we have every other mainline halo game on pc

[celest heron]

maybe once infinite starts to wind down

[last dust]

maybe. cause id like to own every mainline halo on one platform. ive heard bad things about 5 but i love this series so i want it anyway

also my boyfriend doesnt like ODST ;_;

he says he likes the premise but not the execution

[thorn sierra]

the secret to speedruning halo missions: pacifism

[celest heron]

most of the criticism is with the story

with h5

[last dust]

for 5? yeah so i heard

seems that 343 keeps trying to undo the previous game. 5 tried to undo 4, infinite tried to undo 5

its like they dont really have a cohesive narrative in place

like 1,2,3, odst, and reach all felt like one cohesive thing

then 4 comes along tryna start a new narrative and 5 and infinite dont really follow that

[thorn sierra]

the flood are my favorite but at the same time the enemies i most hate in halo

[last dust]

my favorite enemies are the grunts because theyre hilarious.

i do love the flood conceptually, and in execution, but they are SO annoying to fight

the library still gives me war flashbacks

[thorn sierra]

they are so cool like the dialogues are my favorite thing about them

[last dust]

"spartan? you there? you still mad?"

[thorn sierra]

"hard to tell, but me not female"

[last dust]

i love them so much

the grunts add a nice bit of comedic relief to tense fights

[thorn sierra]

i one time saw a jackal teabaging in the arc in halo 3 (i literally kept staring him to see if he was going to do something but no, he was just there)

[last dust]

thats so funny

heres a neat thing in halo 3: in one of the levels, i forget which one. youll find a chieftain taunting you to fight him 1 on 1. and you can. you can just fight the guy 1 on 1 and the other enemies surroudning you both wont attack you if you dont attack them

its such a cool detail

[amber burrow]

Love how the RIZ helmet looks

[finite river]

best helmet from the show

[last dust]

i heard the show wasnt super great. cortana looks weird in it too. like she doesnt look like cortana. she just looks like a normal woman with a blue hue to her

i feel like making her look more digitized wouldve helped with making her seem more like.. well.. an AI.

i have no idea how good her actress is at PORTRAYING Cortana, since i havent seen the show. but yeah not a fan of cortana looking more human in the show

[civic sundial]

The person doing the body is different to the voice for Cortana, they have Jen doing the voice

[midnight tree]

sometimes i wonder why the wasp is still in the game

[jagged crescent]

Tbh I didn’t mind the halo show as a newer halo fan.

[last dust]

im a newer halo fan too. first played through the MCC in 2020, replaying it now with my bf

[onyx latch]

It's decently well liked with people who don't know, don't mind, or are otherwise open to newer interpretations and adaptations of the franchise. Nothing wrong with that.

[jagged crescent]

I thought the visuals were pretty good and the enemies too. However the girl story was kinda forceful

Let me see master cheeks

[rotund zenith]

we get master cheeks in the show but not the game 😔

[agile lodge]

The inside the helmet shots are pretty bad tho

Not sure why they went with that

[last dust]

tbh, i wouldve preferred a direct adaptation. a show based off CE would be really cool

[celest heron]

we only get Jason Jones in his shorts

[last dust]

like seeing the flood in a show would be AMAZING

[jagged crescent]

Would be brutal

Like the first episode

[last dust]

i feel like a show adapting CE would be like. each episode is a mission from the game. so the introduction of the flood would be around episode 6 or 7

and they could include the slow buildup mixed in with some of the passive storytelling. like the guy who has severe PTSD from sureviving the flood, and he starts shooting at chief and chief has the option to put him out of his misery

like honestly i dont think the flood were ever truly as terrifying in later games as they were in CE

[white birch]

Or they could just make a better version of the book...

[onyx latch]

I'm so damn tired of repeats of CE.

[celest heron]

the flood would kind of turn it into a horror show

[onyx latch]

I'm so damn tired of remasters and repeats, actually. I think I'd actually rather stick my hand in a mousetrap once an hour for a week.

[last dust]

which book? ive only played the games

[white birch]

Fall of Reach

[last dust]

remasters are fine for games that warrant it. i feel that halo 1 and 2 warranted it, given their age. even tho CE anniversary's new graphics were HORRIBLE. 2's were great tho.

[onyx latch]

Neither really warranted it.

[last dust]

i mean. we did get halo reach but thats a completely different take

[onyx latch]

They're just cans of paint. I'd rather have mechanical differences and improvements.

[last dust]

the cans of paint do add alot, at least for 2. couldve added alot for 1 if they hadnt butchered the art design.

remasters are a good way for old games to stay relevant for new audiences. some people cant really stomach old graphics and its good that remasters like halo 2 anniversary exist so those people can experience what a great game it is

heck i know people who like ce remastered graphics and thats okay too

[onyx latch]

Eh, they butchered it by going with Reach, so that's more of Reach's fault. :3

[last dust]

Reach was a fine enough game, but yeah its weird that they used reach models for some stuff

honestly my big issue with reach mechanically is i find armor abilities gimmicky. campaign wise, story was good but characters were boring

im also not really a fan of sprint being in halo, but that really is just personal preference.

level design wise, however, reach was great and the combat felt just as satisfying as ever.

[agile lodge]

ODST would’ve fit better

If you wanted a human aspect to a halo show, that would be it. Don’t turn Spartan IIs into quipy characters.

[last dust]

honestly id LOVE that. a show about ODST would be amazing

[agile lodge]

That’s what they should’ve done

Not sure why they didn’t, that way you can take your helmet off to show emotions and add some gravitas to the characters without alienating them.

[last dust]

and the quips and banter would make sense because ODSTs just.. do that to alleviate the stress from the situation

i actually do prefer the writing of ODST over the other Halo games, because the characters feel more like real people

[agile lodge]

Exactly, I don’t know why they didn’t go for that direction.

No one would’ve complained if it was well directed

[grand sand]

hmm I wonder if 343 will cave in and go back to seasons when people have shown so much backlash towards the cu thing

[grave lichen]

I wonder if 343 will make it so we can play in 4 stacks over 1600 again

[last dust]

i wonder if 343 will port halo 5 to pc

[rough field]

Quick question

Why am I experiencing so much jitter/packet loss when my internet is fine

Are infinite servers just that bad?

[young glen]

No.
If you're experiencing jitter and packet loss, it's highly likely it's coming from your end. Have you done any tests on the platform in which you play Infinite?

[rough field]

I’m experiencing nothing in any other games

[young glen]

Games have different thresholds for reporting jitter and packet loss. I know from personal experience.

[rough field]

Purely just infinite I’m getting those issues.

I’m just restarting everything quickly

[young glen]

Again, have you tested your internet to ensure you're not getting packet loss and noticeable jitter outside of Infinite? I use https://packetlosstest.com

[jade iron]

hold on...is season 5 canon or not? im seeing mixed answers

[rough field]

0.03% PL apparently

[young glen]

It needs to be zero for real time shooters. What's your jitter?
Quick fix is trying ethernet if you aren't already, otherwise it gets more complicated.

[rough field]

That was on American servers

I’ve reset everything and turned off QoS tagging

[young glen]

Better to have that on.

[rough field]

Still lagging

It’s not as bad but still lagging like hell.

Trying to test my WiFi and it says can’t get teredo IP address wonderful

[young glen]

Switch to ethernet.

[thorn sierra]

Yo guys im making a halo fangame called: "rin g 2" and im adding weapons, what should i add?

[slim flint]

a slightly above average sized plasma pistol

[wise kite]

Just went 34 - 6 in Tactical Slayer and we only won by a SINGLE KILL, this matchmaking is horrendous, literally five matches in a row of not a single teammate having a positive kill death ratio

[sullen owl]

Could be worse, I had a H3 game where I went 35-7 and we lost by a single kill. My teammates were of course Elites, couldn't hit the side of a barn, any of them.

That would have been in ~2008, so not really a new problem.

[wise kite]

you would think matchmaking would be better after two decades

[sullen owl]

Not much more to change.

[wise kite]

To be fair the matches are balanced in a sense because I keep losing / winning by 5, but it's not really fair that i have to sweat outside ranked and go +20 to +30 every match just to win

although today was like 5 / 6 losses which is not really fair, you shouldn't be actively punishing your best players for being good, doesn't make them want to stick around and those are the kinds of players most likely to stick around and buy stuff

[white birch]

Sounds like SBMM is telling you to go play Firefight for a day or two

If the games are that close you've gone past the point most people play at and it's time to do something else

[wise kite]

I just play every tuesday to complete the weeklys for the battle pass lol

Outside that only ever play custom games

[white birch]

Then play worse

[frail shoal]

Will they ever add more to the campaign? Or maybe the spec ops thing from 4?

[ruby lake]

just got the rizz helmet

[crystal iron]

Oh man Tike Time to grind, cus Rizz Helmet is up..
As much as I like Kai's helmets Rizz Helmet is even better

[stoic canopy]

I feel like I need to start using Controller again if I'm gonna play Ranked at all seriously again.

Like the faster reaction time is okay, but the ability to just not miss and being able to ignore crouch spam just seems way more important.

[knotty ermine]

I love this new update. Crashing everytime I end forge..

crashing is worse than it was last season

[grave ether]

file a ticket

[gilded thunder]

free bragging rights

dropped a 22 assist btb match

imortal chauffeur

[grave ether]

ooooo nice!

[left snow]

I think we're all finding the match making a bit frustrating. It would be better if we all waited a bit longer for tighter lobbies (smaller gap between the best and worst player).

But keep in mind that it's not trying to "punish" you for being good. Just like it's not setting out to punish the players you are going all John Wick on. Or the average players who are being caught in the cross-fire.

And in an "even" match everyone should feel an itty bit sweaty. And it's a fine line. You probably found going +20 very chill. +25 a bit meh. And only that bit on top to make +30 sweaty. But it's the same for everyone. Even that person who went -10 may have gone -15 if they didn't dig deep and get a bit sweaty.

Anyway, TLDR, the MM isn't ideal. Hopefully 343 are looking into it and/or the Match Composer helps. But at least you got to go +30. There are seven other players who probably had less fun.

[crystal iron]

Lol everytime.inget the sniper rifle the entire eny team seems.to.just focus fire on me

[wise kite]

Definitely didn't mean it's out to get better players or anything like that, just not a fan of trying to force 50% winrates, should be more like they try to cap you at 60%

or just put you in lobbies where everyone is better rather than only the enemy and then sticking you with bad players to counter balance

[left snow]

Like moths to a scope glint 🙂

[crystal iron]

I was actually trying to get the 1 no scope, but it was like if I spawned with it I was suddenly the priority target

[wise kite]

the brute spike sniper thing apparently counts for no scope (I think most people use it without scoping in anyway), although shock rifle doesn't for some weird reason

[left snow]

I guess? But that implies other's will be relegated to a 40% win rate.

[wise kite]

If you're going 0 - 15 you probably deserve a 40% winrate more than someone consistently going +10 or +20 or even +30 deserves only a 50% winrate

[left snow]

The problem is that there just isn't enough good players available.

And it's got worse since Fire Fight thinned out the PvP population.

But hopefully the match maker helps funnel better players into the same games.

[wise kite]

I'm surprised there's not enough players considering how instantaneous getting put into matches is even in a less played mode like tactical slayer

[left snow]

If you are going 0-15 you deserve to not have to play games where you are so out matched.

[left snow]

The MM "supposedly" looks ahead and can see that it has no other choice. I don't know how true that is.

[slender bridge]

What’s the weekly ultimate challenge for Riz’s helmet?

[wise kite]

5 sniper kills in a single match or 1 no scope

[slender bridge]

In pvp?

[celest heron]

soo, firefight is counting towards our pvp stats. edit: not our k/d though.

[wise kite]

Aren't all challenges in Pvp?

I didn't realize firefight counted for any

[slender bridge]

I’ve done it all in firefight

But ultimate, I do pvp

[left snow]

Last week all the challenges could be done in PvE. Except the last one - for the helmet. Whatever that one was.

[agile lodge]

You had to get a reversal, guardian angel or last shot medal

[crystal iron]

Got the no scope,nsweet now I have Rizz Helmet.

Hmm I bought credits it says it failed but my card was still charged

Fixed it, had to reload the game

[crystal iron]

Well got the weekly, time for sleep

[knotty hazel]

hey so just joined hi everyone anyway how do I do this squad fashion thing that just came out

[knotty ermine]

The word paradise is a banned word now for maps???

dude who is assigning these banned words? this is insane

[raw anchor]

Infinite needs the hayabusa helmet asap

Change my mind

[crystal iron]

Seriously, like why

[knotty ermine]

thats so asinine

[slender bridge]

Literally can’t wait for next weeks ultimate

[rough field]

those cringe NSFW socials on Halo 5..

[livid trench]

Yall ever join a btb match where the enemy has all the vehicles and you just get spawncamped because you can't fight back 💀

[rough field]

I wish I could load into a game I have like 3 minute wait times

[sage isle]

They dropped ranked snipers for doubles?

[white birch]

They rotated it out yes

[rough field]

Ranked is painful. First game slammed.

Gotta love this games matchmaking with how broken it is

[finite river]

just got the riz helmet unlocked

got a no scope headshot while invis on some guy just walkin around

[spark gate]

guys can we discuss halo real quick

[empty rapids]

nah

wrong server for that

[crystal iron]

can anyone help me? The graphics of the campaign is really bad even im playing in medium setting. The outside world is really messed up. can anyone help me? is anything i should do?

[empty rapids]

are you on console or pc?

if you're on pc, are you playing the game on a really dated hard drive? Are your drivers up to date?

[lime fox]

Is Halo hard to get into at this point in time?

[rough field]

Ranked yes casual no

[lime fox]

I mean story-wise.

[finite river]

was playin ff and my entire console crashed mid session

[full flint]

I haven’t played since March 2023, what happened?? They’ve added so many armor abilities and stuff? Also have they changed kill rates on the guns and stuff?

[rough field]

Nah I actually need to know

How do I turn my sense up its so slow for max

[crystal iron]

The only mode I can really “enjoy” is legendary firefight with friends or custom games

I just cant man. The matchups in this game suck so much

[rough field]

I’m just pissed my sensitivity is so slow and the SBMM is so bad

I spend 3 years turning whilst keyboard and mouse players take 1 second

[crystal iron]

They shouldnt have every match dedicated to being skillbased. Have you seen max hobermans take?

[rough field]

Bro. I’m a gold player going against Hero’s.

My last four matches have had one hero

I mean I’d be able to compete if I could turn faster.

[crystal iron]

https://vxtwitter.com/maxhoberman/status/1726560298117796029?s=46

[round blaze]

Yall watched road to halo?

[crystal iron]

No but I watched Halo slowly kill itself

[round blaze]

Watch it its gud

[rough field]

I just wanna turn quicker man!!!!

[round blaze]

Makes sence

[celest heron]

a lot of players with the hero rank are good, but the rank itself doesn't indicate skill level.

[crystal iron]

With this server being the culmination of that mindset. The emojis and stickers all give off childish humor vibes, you cant even swear man. This whole “broader audience” thing has just screwed the pooch more and more over time. I’m only here still because I keep an eye on more news and atleast a majority of the folk here are based. Keyword tho is majority.

[rough field]

Still shouldn’t be facing them as a gold if that’s their SBMM rating thing.

[celest heron]

it's a progression rank

[rough field]

Andddd every single one I’ve faced have been gods at the game -_-

[round blaze]

Damn

[celest heron]

most likely cause most of them are grinders and streamers, but over time people who don't play as much will get it.

[crystal iron]

Yeah I dont want to sweat nearly every single match

[rough field]

Still the ranking system is relatively new the only people who have hero are sweats -_- with like 5000+ games

And I’m here with a lovely 400 games

[crystal iron]

“By intentionally allowing a range of skills to match together, we provided 3 experiences in ranked matchmaking: an easier one where you can kick butt, a harder one where you're likely outmatched, and an evenly matched one. My theory was that a good mix of these three was ideal.”

“Why not always evenly match people though? My reasoning was that these are actually the most stressful matches of the set. Sure, they're the most fun to watch for spectators: games come down to the wire. That's because the team that wins is the team that outperforms expectations”
From Max hoberman

This whole mindset is how it SHOULD be done, just like the old ones

[celest heron]

not in ranked

[crystal iron]

Not in ranked yeah, but skillbased is in “CASUAL” as well

How the hell is that FUN?

If its occasionally I can dig that, but if its always a skillbased match then its just gonna be sweat 24/7

[celest heron]

it was found in the earlier days of h5 that lopsided games caused people to quit the game and not come back.

[rough field]

I’m half tempted to quit and wait till servers get better SBMM

[celest heron]

the current implementation isn't great, but neither is the population so tightening the skill gap could create long search times especially for EU people like yourself I'm guessing. It's probly a tough thing to balance, but I think they should rework it.

[slender geyser]

Hi I’m working on a campaign style firefight map with multiple areas you have to fight in. Is there a way to attach a nav marker to an object on an ai wave start and move to another area on the next wave? Like fight a few waves then a boss wave and after tht wave ends the nav marker moves to the next area.

[rugged quartz]

Yes you can set different move zones

[agile lodge]

Preach it

[exotic vigil]

Broader audience and yet the brand has never been less popular

[quartz shell]

Infinite did get 20 million players on debut

it failed to retain 94% of them with poor decisions and slow updates
But hey, las risas no faltaron

[quartz shell]

That feeling when Halo CE and Halo 2 would leave gallons of blood on the maps in the hardware of the original Xbox
Meanwhile Infinite on the Series X, the world's most powerful console, doesn't even have bloodstains programmed in

[exotic vigil]

Meanwhile H2A still can’t run on the Series X

Why even have anniversary editions out if they’re near unplayable

[left snow]

As per @celest heron - it doesn't make sense for the SBMM to take progression rank into account.

It wouldn't be fair on those players.

[left snow]

To be fair - nobody has been able to explain how you create these experiences evenly for all players.

Take an Onyx player. How do you regularly create matches where they are outmatched? Where do you find a bunch of higher ranked players. And who the Hell do you throw on their team to stand by and watch? I mean, if the Onyx player is being soundly beaten...

What about someone who is mid Onyx - around 1650. The top 0.6% of the population. When do they get their turn at having their butt kicked?

What about two mid-Onyx player's squadded up?

And how do you keep the players being smashed logged into the game? We know that the biggest factor in ending a Halo session is your team being stomped. More than wait times, pings, and personal performance. Players don't like the feeling that there team didn't have a chance.

I admire Max and all he's done for Halo. But I'm not sure how this would work today.

[coarse dagger]

Probably hit a false positive match somewhere, it can happen depending on how filters are set up. More than likely that the specific word isn't banned. File a support ticket about it

[rough field]

I seem to never have a chance to do well and even if I do my team lets me down most if not all the time. At this point in time I don’t really wanna play the game unless with friends which is shocking.

[rancid leaf]

hello

[rough field]

Hola

[crystal iron]

I feel like that's a bot

[slender geyser]

Yes but I wanna attach nav markers to certain areas of the map after each wave. So people know where to go next

[rough field]

Probably

[left snow]

Is your Gamertag Cal 141 SII? It's the closest from your discord profile.

[rough field]

No

[ruby knoll]

childish humor vibes
so halo vibes?

oh
discord failed to autoscroll again

where did those ps5 rumors come from anyways

afaik the ps5 runs an internal bsd variant, and doesn't have directx, so any kind of port would be very time consuming

an xcloud client for ps5 i can see happening

[uneven bison]

No, we pretend the people who played halo in the golden age were mature and not children here, remember?

(Hot take maybe it seemed mature when you were younger but is in fact usually quite laid back in terms of maturity.)

[civic sundial]

I think part of it is the idea that a game being full of swear words somehow means it's a mature game. Obviously you don't want kids to be swearing, but having a game where most the dialogue is swearing doesn't make it a more mature game, it comes across as obnoxious

[ruby knoll]

pg 13 swears

[uneven bison]

Even then a lot of kids know a ton of cuss words by the age of 12 or so

For multiple reasons obviously

[civic sundial]

Like, take Resident Evil 2 Remake, that game does have some swear words in it but the game is much more focused on telling the story of a city falling to zombies thanks to the failings of a corporation than it is on how many swears it can get in a scene

[civic sundial]

Aye, sadly true

[uneven bison]

But halo has never struck me as particularly thought provoking, and that’s not a bad thing. I don’t need to made to think about complex topics all the time

[civic sundial]

Indeed

It's playing off of some sci-fi tropes while also subverting them

Sure the later entries have tried to say something more and while it doesn't always work, I appreciate the effort

Like, Infinite was telling a story about people who felt like failures when one had just barely survived escaping from death while the other constantly feels the weight of the world on his shoulders thanks to his previous times saving the galaxy

[uneven bison]

And I can appreciate some sort of connection like that in a video game. Do I need it? Not really, I’m fine with just blowing up aliens

But to act like halo is some giant metaphor or story that “kids these days” could never grasp is silly at best.

I’ve had enough of gate keeping from Star Wars fans for a lifetime

And souls players! Could never forget them!

[onyx latch]

Kind of a curse, that, as Slip said. Newer games tend to try harder, but a lot of people prefer the no thoughts head empty approach.

Personally, I can't stand that sort of thought process, but.

[magic night]

There's a place for both

There's different things to account for on the way they approach things, though

Like a game that doesn't care much for its narrative really needs to nail everything else to avoid being forgettable, whereas a game with a good narrative can use that to make up for not having the greatest gameplay, visuals, etc.

[misty vale]

Well it's a good thing Halo nails being an unserious blastem spaceman with satisfying sandbox elements

[wary sandal]

when splitscreen on mcc (crazy)

[coarse dagger]

MCC has splitscreen support

[civic sundial]

Yeah, like even if it's a simple message like "Be kind", it's better than nothing. It's part of what makes storytelling an art, the message that is being conveyed via the story

[plucky river]

I'm having trouble buying the Y1 esport skins. I have credits but when I buy it loads the buy credits menu. Is there a known bug going on?

It only bugs for Y1 skins. Everything else buys fine.

[ruby knoll]

part of halo's appeal to me is that it's seriousish without being stupidly edgy and grimderp

[balmy wedge]

Not on PC and I cry every day for it.

[quartz shell]

Since when are PC players acquainted with splitscreen

[rotund zenith]

Imagine splitscreen but with you second monitor

[glacial tartan]

Helps to stop considering PC as only sitting at a computer. Would be nice to hook a steam deck up to a screen and play with friends (or some other variation). In my opinion MCC has bigger issues but I understand the concept.

[quartz shell]

Wouldn't you need like a second mouse and keyboard or a controller on top

[quartz shell]

Couldn't you just play online

[rotund zenith]

Dont you need two controllers for a console?

[quartz shell]

Steam is not the only PC game launcher or market bear in mind

[quartz shell]

Yeah, but consoles are made for gaming
For a PC, gaming is secondary

[rotund zenith]

plugs in a second set of controls wowsers

[last dust]

meanwhile i bought a big expensive pc specifically for gaming

also splitscreen on pc is inconvenient BUT steam remote play/parsec allows you to play those games online, albeit with some latency

if anything, splitscreen/couch co-op is better on pc BECAUSE you could play those games with an online friend as if you were in the same room

[balmy wedge]

Also it makes modded play so much easier.

[last dust]

well yeah cause you dont have to worry about making sure your mods are the same

[rotund zenith]

So many mcc mods thatd be awesome to show off with couch coop

[last dust]

i run mcc vanilla. i LOVE Halo, but playing it vanilla is just my preferred way of playing

[balmy wedge]

And that's best case scenario.
Worst case, you have friends who like Halo but can't afford a PC. Or scheduling time with the two friends who do have PCs is difficult because they work full-time. Split-screen on PC fixes multiple problems when it comes to modding beyond installation frustration.

[last dust]

very true. split screen on pc is much more important than people realize.

[thorn sierra]

just heard a halo ce marine say "fire in the hole" no way gd reference real no fake

[misty vale]

Dozens of people clamoring for it

[rugged quartz]

What..?

[finite river]

so wish we had mark 6 gen 3 shoulders in the game so we could do silver teams look fully

[split oracle]

which mode for weekly sniper challenge?

[celest heron]

Illusion playlist

[slim flint]

fj/para shoulders look close on Mark 7

[finite river]

not chunky enough

[last dust]

so im absolute trash at halo multiplayer. how am i supposed to improve? cause i love the multiplayer, at least for halo 1-3, but i just dont know what im doing

[velvet dirge]

Just continue playing, get familiar with the weapons, their firing ratio, movement, etc

There's no better teacher than experience imo

[last dust]

thats true. i did end up turning voice chat off too cause i dont wanna be insulted by teammates when im tryna learn

[coarse dagger]

Try running the weapons drills or play on the Academy for a bit.
Get used to the maps and weapons

[last dust]

oh i dont play infinite. i play 1-3 on mcc

[velvet dirge]

I absolutely sucked when I started playing, now I'm pretty decent

[coarse dagger]

You can also look for players in the LFG channels, running with some like-minded folk can also help

oh, well maybe try LFGs then

[last dust]

i get intimidated cause im worried ill be chewed out for being bad ;_;

im still new here, i dont know the group dynamic

also ive realized i dont like btb. its overwhelming. 4v4 is really fun tho

i like the smaller maps and smaller team size. feels alot more manageable

[celest heron]

there are plenty of people in your skill level so the chances of getting yelled at are low. btb is actually not a bad starting point cause you can learn about weapons easier without having 1v1's all the time and you can focus on people not paying attention to you to help your shooting.

[last dust]

its just the massive map sizes. feels like theres alot more going on in btb and i get overwhelmed

[celest heron]

it will just take time to get used to like any new map. Also, there are more people so you won't have to contribute as much.

[last dust]

true. maybe ill try btb again. honestly my main thing is my lack of game sense and spacial awareness

my spacial awareness is horrible

[celest heron]

a good thing to do as well is make a custom game and explore the maps. That way you can get a feel for the map and see where weapons and vehicles spawn without having other people bother you.

[last dust]

thats a REALLY good idea. i didnt think of that

kinda reminds me of something that splatoon does, where you can enter a recon version of a map to learn the map layout

[celest heron]

yeah, and you can shoot them to figure out what they do and everything. There's also forge mode where you can spawn in all the weapons and vehicles if you want to see what each game has.

[covert bobcat]

bonus points if you add bots

[last dust]

forge is a neat mode, but ive never messed around with it

[celest heron]

this is for mcc

[covert bobcat]

oh

[celest heron]

the basic stuff like spawning in things is straightforward, but doing other things could be more difficult for a new person.

[clever geode]

add more gamemodes

[jade iron]

anyone have advice for the sniper? every other weapon i can use and get kills with but the sniper i miss every shot unless i use it like a shotgun

[misty vale]

Aim at them

Turn up zoom sense

[stable matrix]

Odd question to ask but anyone know how to get from being a average person at Halo to being something better?

[remote scarab]

it's mostly map knowledge and awareness, aim is a factor for sure but it really doesn't decide games as much as it would in other FPS games. For the most part, try learning the maps, where the weapons and items spawn, and fight for advantages as much as possible. Also try learning how the spawn system works, as you can pretty accurately predict where enemies are going to spawn based on where your teammates spawn/get into fights. Being aware of your team will let you make informed decisions like flanking, rather than just running around the map guessing where people are. In most games above a diamond level, people will be predicting your spawns and your movement, so it'll feel like you're being constantly outplayed if you don't pay attention and try to work with your team's momentum. Playing power and numbers is important too, don't ego challenge fights that you can't win and try to position yourself in spaces where you can easily exit out of a fight if you start losing, like seeing where your teammates are and playing near them at most times unless you're confident in the info you have, and staying alive and active will make you immediately more useful than someone that's trading 1-1 in every engagement. Pick up and control power items/weapons and try to predict spawns and enemy pathing, and you're pretty much playing at a diamond level. Onyx level is essentially all of this, plus great mechanics like aim and movement, along with confidence and good communication. I hope some of this helps <3

[stable matrix]

Thank you very much👍

[remote scarab]

I'd highly recommend watching videos from Shyway on youtube about all this stuff, he makes excellent guides on stuff like awareness, knowledge and they're usually less than 15 minutes long. He even has settings guides and he's well known in the pro scene as well as being high Onyx ranked himself. He is good at visualising stuff and a lot of what I just said to you is pretty much just simplified versions of things he's said

[last dust]

aight boyfriend and i finished ODST. i loved it, he hated it.

[remote scarab]

hated? I wonder what he found so bad about it, I've only ever heard most people say ODST is either good or at the very least average, it seems like a pretty inoffensive game as it's pretty much just halo 3's core gameplay with a few switch ups and a decently engaging story

[last dust]

he feels that the story doesnt have much bearing on the overall universe, which.. fair.

it DOES feel pretty self contained

yeah it takes place before halo 3 but i dont recall the events of ODST being referenced in 3 at all

[remote scarab]

fair criticism but I feel it's meant to be more grounded as it follows a small group of essentially foot soldiers, at least from how I see, it's more of a personal story than it is like adding to the overall world. I do think ODST is pretty much treated as its own thing though which can definitely be offputting after 3 main games of world ending stakes and consequences

[last dust]

yeah but when that ending implies the engineers would actually have a bearing on 3's plot, which.. we knew they didnt since odst came out after, it does feel a bit weird timeline wise

[remote scarab]

I'm thinking originally, they were probably going to do something with them in their own Halo 4, or maybe feature them more in Reach? I can definitely see how the setup really doesn't go anywhere, and especially if you play ODST before 3, it probably would feel even more confusing in hindsight

[last dust]

they were actually featured in Reach. only in 4 levels tho

[remote scarab]

definitely not to any prominent extent though, I'm sure it's mostly just caused by how the studio's plans shifted a lot during the time and so a lot of things that were set up just never really got finalized or fully realized in other projects. Most of those engineer sections in Reach were most likely just reused concepts from other stuff that would've actually featured them in the story more. ODST and Reach definitely introduce a lot of concepts/ideas that literally never get explained again lol

[last dust]

oh, ODST didnt even introduce the engineers. the book Fall of Reach did.

the engineers appeared in a bunch of the books

[remote scarab]

Did your boyfriend read that expanded material beforehand? He probably would've found ODST a little more enjoyable but I could also understand if he didn't wanna read any books and just wanted to play the game, as most people probably did

[last dust]

i think hes read a few of the books, but not alot of them

[remote scarab]

I can definitely see why he'd find ODST less enjoyable then, especially if he's already played the original few games, the stories and concepts are generally pretty tight but as the universe gets bigger and there's more and more expanded lore, they start using more of that in the games which in turn takes the focus off of the large overarching stuff, especially in ODST (although tbh that is intended)

[last dust]

he loves the books too. his issue is that ODST pretends its connected when it isn't

[celest heron]

huh? It's connected to h2

[finite river]

yea its set around the time the slipspace event happens in h2 with thr space elevator

[signal ivy]

they wanted to capture the engineer to gain intelligence on what was underneath the city that the Covenant were looking for

ultimately it didn't matter because truth showed up and opened the portal

but capturing an engineer who defected to humanity and probably has a huge amount of valuable information was no doubt a huge W for the UNSC

[undone locust]

Anyone else like NEVER get Halo 2 or Halo CE matches in social games?

[celest heron]

I usually find games in CE whenever I select it.

[undone locust]

Lately i've gotten more HALO 4 matches than CE or 2. Maybe it's because I tend to play pretty much only BTB.

[celest heron]

oh, I haven't tried CE btb in forever. I was referring to 4's.

[undone locust]

It makes me sad because Halo 2 is my favorite overall multiplayer

[limpid lance]

lol https://fxtwitter.com/nobbieslicks/status/1755390862811386126?s=46&t=7Cro0-1vUKeMwTBmMHkJsg

[crystal iron]

I just realized that the Concussion Rifle never shows up anywhere in Halo 4 multiplayer, what the hell

Does it?

[civic sundial]

It does, it just wasn't common

[exotic vigil]

Probably in the kill streaks

[civic sundial]

Plus it could be called in

[thorn sierra]

halo CE hunters are so weak like a plasma grenade and a few bullets and kill one in less than a minute

[frosty condor]

One magnum shot to the back kills them

[humble widget]

lmao so I was doing a social game of CTF on pit, went to overtime.
For context, one of our team members DC'd and got autofilled by the bot.
Overtime happens, we rush them hard. The bot picks up the flag and proceeds to home run it and cinching the game for us lmao

[winter adder]

Man I just noticed I missed Birthday Bash kill effect that really sucks given I even pre ordered game 😦 I really hope they bring it back again at some point

They should have at least given it to early support automatically

[south prawn]

How the hell did the flood survive the rings firing

Like why would they keep samples if they knew how dangerous this thing was

If I had a parasite that was completely ravaging my species I would order the complete extinction of every single specimen

Forerunners were stupid ngl

[signal ivy]

the samples were kept to be analyzed and attempted to find a way to kill them if they were ever to return

[onyx latch]

There's also an entire galaxy of places that couldn't reasonably be catalogued as flood hotspots and such that would've gone without notice. The Covenant had to deal with a few, as have humans.

Luckily, none of these places seem to have the ability to send anything anywhere.

[south prawn]

That makes sense

[civic sundial]

Also Halo doesn't kill Flood, it kills their food

Which is everyone in the galaxy

[south prawn]

Yeah

The flood scares me though, it's unique in its actual intellect. It's not making mindless zombies, these things can infect vehicles and pilot them

[onyx latch]

that's not actually all that unique in terms of zombie greebly cosmic horror things.

In fact, flesh that thinks and hates is one of the most common cosmic horror tropes.

[civic sundial]

It gets to a point where you are just like "Oh, more space zombies"

[onyx latch]

Dead Space, Gears of War, Warhammer 40K (in several flavors!), Cthulu Mythos, Dungeons and Dragons, Halo, Stellaris, Starcraft, among others.

[rotund zenith]

The beast from homeworld is a very good one

[south prawn]

Luckily, I've never played any of those games so I was genuinely scared when I saw them FLYING PELICANS

Egh I keep thinking of vertibirds I gotta get out of the fallout mindsey

[onyx latch]

Oh, actually, Fallout's another one, but its examples are heavier on the hate than the think

[south prawn]

I guess the flood is just big scary to me at least because halo CE gave me ptsd

[onyx latch]

[south prawn]

2007, birthday present

[onyx latch]

Oh, right, I forget I'm old now.

[south prawn]

I'm 24 now, those things are still absolutely horrifying

[last dust]

the flood worked because of the insanely well done build up in 343 guilty spark. and imo they were only scary in CE. halo 2 onwards they just felt like generic zombies.

[onyx latch]

Eh. The thought of the flood is worse than their depiction.

[south prawn]

Halo 2 flood are bullet eaters, never did like then

[onyx latch]

Dead Space basically does the same thing but dozens of times better. No big wonder that 343 started leaning closer to that angle of the infection.

[last dust]

i think bringing back the flood was a bad idea. i get that 2 and 3 were meant to build on the existence of them and have you wipe them out for good, but i feel that CE accomplished that pretty well

as cool as it was to temporarily ally with them in 3, it doesnt change the fact that the flood werent really all that scary at that point because of overexposure

[south prawn]

I guess I haven't played enough space fps games

[last dust]

i really only play halo and darktide in regards to space fps games

[south prawn]

I liked the flood in halo 1 and 2, but beyond that it became redundant because of how frustrating they were

[last dust]

yeah they went from "wow this is terrifying" to "ugh, them again?"

[south prawn]

CE was "OH LORD HAVE MERCY THEY ARE EVERYWHERE"

3 was "lord have mercy if they kill me 1 more time I'm going to go nuts"

[civic sundial]

It doesn't help that the Flood kinda take control of the narrative when they appear as if they don't stop them, everything is doomed. Can't really change that aspect about them

Other aliens in Halo are much more flexible in that aspect

[last dust]

i again chalk that up to the masterful buildup of them in CE. once theyre in full swing in 2 and 3, they just feel like normal enemies who take way too long to kill

[last dust]

yeah, its hard to do alot with the flood, which is another reason they shouldve stayed in CE

[south prawn]

Yeah, I would've rather they didn't include the flood in 2 and instead focus more heavily on the covenant, since we didn't get all that much out of them in CE other than being big bad guys

[last dust]

we did get alot of covenant stuff in 2 and 3, since the story went back and forth showing each side, giving more context as to why the war between the covvies and humans is even going on.

but it was drowned out by "LORD ALLMIGHTY THESE ZOMBIES ARE DANGEROUS

[south prawn]

But then the flood comes out of nowhere and then it's all like "we have to stop the flood before everyone die!!!1!1!1111"

[last dust]

exactly. and it sucks cause focusing on the inner workings of the conflict between covenant and humans wouldve been REALLY interesting

[south prawn]

It gets put to the side to become "oh its just some random holy war dw about it now kill these zombies"

[last dust]

THE HOLY WAR WAS SO INTERESTING THO

Truth being this cunning religious zealot was such an interesting idea

[civic sundial]

See this is why I want the Prometheans to come back, because they can be more flexible than the Flood with their goals. The Prometheans are loyal to whoever is in control of them and that can change

[last dust]

the prometheans are the halo 4 enemies yeah? yeah theyre really cool and i LOVE their designs

[civic sundial]

Aye

I have so much I love about them, like how their more organic look foreshadows their true nature as composed humans

[last dust]

DARNIT. i had forgotten about alot of 4's story stuff, thats why id been replaying it

that is really cool tho

[south prawn]

Halo reach will never not be my absolute favorite Halo game, but that's just me liking how down to... uh... reach it is

[last dust]

i just love how aggressive the prometheans are. they feel like the flood but actually interesting in their goals, since those can always change

[last dust]

my fave will ALWAYS be ODST

ODST has such a unique atmosphere compared to other Halo games

[south prawn]

I haven't played that and 4 yet, I played 1 2 and 3 then kinda.. forgot Halo existed

[last dust]

play ODST

its really short, you can finish it in a day

[south prawn]

Will do, I'm going chronological so I think odst is next

[last dust]

ODST is next, yes

[south prawn]

Then 3

[last dust]

yeah. granted ODST doesnt have any bearing on the events of 3 imo, so it does feel more like a side story, but its a very good side story

[south prawn]

Reach was my inspiration to make my username.. ughdjduu lone wolf 💀 I was so dumb and edgy back then

[last dust]

tbh i actually wasnt super big on Reach. dont get me wrong, the campaign is great and the story is interesting, i just found the characters boring.

i think actman said it best that reach is more of a setting driven story rather than a character driven one, but i feel that CE did a setting driven story better

[south prawn]

I think I like it a lot more than all others I've played because of the actual innocent casualties and desperation

[civic sundial]

Sorry, didn't mean to spoil that

[south prawn]

The covenant actually talking in different languages gets rid of the humor and sets in confusion and fear

I might start playing multi-player again and do goofy EOD stuff

[last dust]

all good, you didnt know

[south prawn]

Since I'm never gonna be playing halo infinites story can someone give me a spoiled message that describes it in like 10 words or less

[buoyant tiger]

Reach and Halo 3 to me are amazing

I think Halo 4 is a bit underrated (campaign wise)

[south prawn]

Reach is my personal fave, haven't played odst, 3 or 4

Well I played 3 a long time ago but I completely forgot the plot

[buoyant tiger]

You should definitely give it a replay

[south prawn]

Plan to, I bought MCC for my pc and now I'm replaying all 6 games in order, next up is ODST

[winter adder]

I do like Reach too also i like the Halo 4 weapons a lot

[south prawn]

Which version of needler is best needler

[onyx latch]

Close competition between 4 and 5

Both have a super aggressive fire rate and small number of needles needed

[last dust]

Halo 4's Supressor is so good

[magic loom]

My favourite needler is the Reach and 4 version mainly because I can shoot the right amount and stop looking my foe and move on the next thing cause I know they are dead. The crazy part is I dont even know the right amount of needles and yet it just clicks.

[south prawn]

Grunt is 1 click, elite is like 5

Then you can go on with your day

[undone locust]

Halo 2 still never shows up for me in BTB. It's always just 3 or Reach. Very annoying.

[celest heron]

h2c is just not as popular and then a lot of times you'll match a full party of skilled players to put it nicely.

[undone locust]

I distinctly remember getting way more H2C matches like a year or two ago

Makes me unhappy because I just don't like H3 as much. Multiplayer wise, anyway.

[celest heron]

it was more popular in the past and btb in general, but infinite took a lot of players and probly other games over time.

[balmy wedge]

Not all game selections are viable across all games. In an 8-vs.-8 game, if you select "Vehicle Heavy" or "Auto Slayer", you cannot get any Halo 2 or CE games. It's very silly and will naturally lead to Reach, 3, and 4 games.

[undone locust]

I'll try that. Thanks!

[quartz shell]

MCC is very low on population, and those who do play the game almost exclusively play Halo 3 and Reach

[ebon rapids]

is gold average or slightly above, i dont know where the elo splits are vs player ability lie currently also did my first full weakly

[quartz shell]

A rank says nothing about your skill

[ebon rapids]

ik ik

[quartz shell]

Gold is above average

[ebon rapids]

ty was curious of the player base distribution amongst the bracketed elo markers thats all

[jade iron]

is there a reason i cant swap this weeks challenge

[ebon rapids]

ran out of swaps?

[quartz shell]

The weekly challenge is the same for everyone and it can't be swapped

[jade iron]

[jade iron]

i just bought one

[undone locust]

That sucks. Infinite is fun, but I usually have much more fun on MCC

[jade iron]

i only came back for firefight king of the hill

dont want to deal with edgy sweat lords

fiesta used to be fun, not anymore

[undone locust]

idk just feels like I don't really get anything of worth out of Infinite multiplayer. With MCC, I've got plenty of stuff from the seasons to unlock. also helps that I don't have to, you know, purchase battle passes.

Is Infinite's custom games scene worth anything?

[quartz shell]

That is the one area I can praise Infinite on, yes, the custom games are great

[bold orchid]

Yo
Bit of a question
Was playing multiplayer Infinite on Xbox today and heard some player’s mic come on as he talked through the match even though I checked and my voice chat was disabled; does that mean I’ll always be able to hear everyone, or was it some error/glitch, or what?

[undone locust]

I FINALLY got a H2A BTB match and as soon as it finishes loading, my MCC decides to crash. Tried to rejoin, crashed again. This is BS.

[fair elm]

do Brutes still throw grunts in the campaign/multiplayer? Haven’t seen it happen in campaign since launch

and I’m not even sure if it’s a feature in custom games

[finite river]

yes

[thorn sierra]

I'm starting to like halo 4

[glacial tartan]

This is weird

Even though I personally dont like H2A/H4, I can acknowledge every title in MCC can find games consistently throughout the day. Its not like its 90% H3, 9%Reach and 1% the rest.

I know 343 doesnt publish stats on this kind of thing but im curious what your experience has been in the game to conclude that. Especially when the playerbase is growing for the first time in a while.

[last dust]

ive mostly been getting halo 3 when ive been queuing

and i queue for 1-3

[crystal iron]

I queue for everything lol :p

[glacial tartan]

I dont like discounting the various communities, thats all. For example, pretty sure Halo CE is the only competitive playlist you could still realistically get a 50 in

[last dust]

im not a fan of sprint or armor abilities so i dont bother with reach or 4 multiplayer

[crystal iron]

Tbh it doesn't really bother me because a little variation is always good. Only thing I don't like is grappling hook in infinite lol because personally just seems a bit dumb... And how does it lift a whole Spartan just from a wrist mount some gears with a motor and some spindley cable

[quartz shell]

This dates to before the match composer

When the game had a voting system
Everyone ended up voting for Halo 3 maps

Halo 3 is everything people kept playing over and over again

[celest heron]

I only play h3 for challenges, but I can find games fairly easily in the other titles that I play.

[molten olive]

So, does anyone know any plans or things happening with halo recently? I haven’t been keeping up

[craggy wadi]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-infinite-update-april-2022

[glacial tartan]

One title being more popular doesn’t make the rest necessary unpopular. Only less so.

Except I maintain H2A/H4 are meh 😂

[empty rapids]

just noscoped an entire enemy squad, the dopamine is 👌

[jovial needle]

can you add music To firefight in Halo Infinite Forge??

Fire fight games you make are so bland without good campaign music cmon 343

[coarse dagger]

That blog is like nearly 2 years old...

[civic sundial]

The music that plays in Firefight is from the campaign

[jade iron]

the darkest in my opinion

[random ocean]

I got the 25 tier skip off of infinite and I didn't get any of the stuff I bought I have to still grind my way up.
What a waste of money I would have just bought the $10 one if I would have known it was never going to give me the 25 tears I paid to skip

[coarse dagger]

You don't get the 25 tiers instantly, you need to apply them as boosts

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/Unyshek/status/1460377719263272967?s=20

John Junyszek (@Unyshek) on X

FYI: If you purchase the Premium Battle Pass Bundle, it'll give you XP Grants that need to be activated manually - which comes out to 25 levels. You can find them under the "Boosts" portion of the Battle Pass menu 👍

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 10:42 PM

[random ocean]

Thank you!
Much appreciated

[finite river]

no as music in ff is automatically on and dynamic to the round/enemy count

[craggy wadi]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2024roadmap

[signal ivy]

that's also just for HCS

[plucky river]

Y1 skins don't work for me. It loads buy credits menu when I already have credits. Anything I can buy normally.

[sullen kiln]

Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[thorn sierra]

omg the prometeans are so cool and same with the halo 4 new weapons

[lime root]

Hey all, hoping that someone could help me out with some info! I have been waiting for some weapon charms to become available again in the shop (perfect charm) & (ninja charm) According to the description the charms were released back in S4 and are now vaulted. So with that said, does anyone know if these charms will make another appearance? Or were they given out as a Twitch drop for watching Halo streamed during a major event? I'll be absolutely gutted if I can't get ahold of those charms haha

[white birch]

The entire launcher is basically a scaled down MAC, driven by the near bottomless power supply of the MJLONIR suit's fusion reactor. Uses magnets to launch the hook and withdraw it without ever actually touching the wire; think of it as a reverse railgun.

The "wire" itself is made of the same material that the suit (and most UNSC starships and armored vehicles for that matter) are, woven together at a nanoscale level to make a "rope" with impressive strength and durability.
The anchor head is also hyper-sharp, I forget how much so but its enough to easily puncture rock, metal and Banished armor plating. The anchor pinions on the side are self-deploying as well.

I should also note that in the hands of a Spartan its heavy enough to be used as an improvised mace

Additionally the mechanism fires the hook with enough force to cleanly decaptiate a human-sized target if fired at close range, or at the very least do significant and most likely fatal cranial damage

[onyx latch]

Meanwhile I'm just casually tazing marines for fun with it

[white birch]

Zap

Oh thats right you can electrify it too just because!

[jovial needle]

no in my forged FF it aint

[jovial needle]

only the official ones not in custom forged ones

[civic sundial]

Yeeeessss, you've encountered my favourite enemies in the series!!

[thorn sierra]

And the guns sounds so goofy ahh

[civic sundial]

Some weapons are definitely a little too close to their human counterparts but I can live with that given that blasting someone with the Incineration Cannon is fun

[jagged crescent]

omg i didnt even realise you can just have no shoulder pads

[serene badger]

....what?

Really???

[civic sundial]

You didn't know?

[serene badger]

Hmmm. No.
I found the shoulder pads i loved on day one and always left them on.

Didnt bother trying anything else.

[plucky river]

343 just gives me a robot a reply to the ticket and nothing is done.

That's why I ask here to see if other players have the same bug.

[trail copper]

Does anyone know if the weekly challenge in Infinite is completable in firefight? I figure the 5 sniper kills aren't, but can you get a No Scope medal in firefight?

[heavy edge]

Does no one play FFA or BTB in MCC I’ve been searching for 3 minutes and not finding a single person

[velvet dirge]

Yeah, just get a kill with the sniper rifle like you would at any other mode

[glacial tartan]

What game/gametypes are you searching? FFA is a slower queue (outside of Slayer) and BTB should be fine

[heavy edge]

All games and game types except swat and snipers

West coast too

[glacial tartan]

Youre blocking to only get West?

[heavy edge]

No I’m saying I’m on the west coast it should have a bigger player pool

[glacial tartan]

Definitely untrue; East Coast has more players iirc

[heavy edge]

I think I know the reason I’m getting super high pings

[hazy token]

what happened to the featured playlist xp bonus?

[bleak nymph]

I find in BTB I often end up in Halo 3 or 4 matches.

[heavy edge]

I saw the issue im getting 300 ping so it’s making my searches be long

Don’t know what’s causing my ping on my Xbox to be that high

[quartz shell]

That you get matched with people in different countries

[loud knot]

Does anyone know where the repair field spans on fragmentation? Cant find it for the life of me though I know I’ve seen it used on the map

[fallow merlin]

There’s a new multiplayer soundtrack album coming out in a few weeks?

Is that music already in the game?

[finite river]

yes its seasons 2-5

[vagrant lake]

Why are Halo Infinite vehicles so spotty when it comes to durability and damage output like it shouldn't take two point blank shots to kill someone with a banshee bomb and a tank should be destroyed if you plant a grenade on it

[misty vale]

If you plant a nade on the back it blows up. On the front, get the tank yourself bc it just kills the dude. Banshee you mean the missile? Would you prefer that? I would also prefer a one shot kill banshee...but I also am consistently at the top of the scoreboard...so like I hear a lot of complaints about skill gap and that would exacerbate that issue in a brutal way which is only fun for me

[vagrant lake]

If you plant a grenade on the back it only kills the driver

[misty vale]

I think I disagree. It blows up the scorpion

[granite cosmos]

i think im starting to hate that new map

[floral depot]

I personally think Halo 3 is better then 2

[frosty condor]

Darn tootin

[limpid lance]

https://fxtwitter.com/idealronyl/status/1755593275212202100?s=46&t=7Cro0-1vUKeMwTBmMHkJsg

[icy storm]

One grenade from the back blows up the whole scorpion?

[steady osprey]

If i get halo mcc and download halo reach will i have all my armor

[finite river]

if u played the mcc version of reach before and unlocked the armours thru the reach pass yeah

[crystal iron]

Does anyone know how to unlock the armor variants in Halo reach on mcc

[civic sundial]

There's multiple seasons of Reach unlocks in MCC, all free. The classic Reach items are in season 1

[crystal iron]

I now need to find that

[civic sundial]

It's been a while since I've properly played MCC so I'm not 100% on where in the menus you go to find it

[crystal iron]

Oh found it

In catalog I'm the options

[civic sundial]

Aye, that's it

But yeah, for the classic Reach items, you'll want the first season. Some of the later seasons include some cut content from Reach's DLC back in the day like GRD

[magic loom]

I wanna know does anyone know on the mission that was removed from Halo a Reach? It was a mission after new Alexandria, that part of the game where you drove a falcon through a crumbling city in the skies.

After that mission you were supposed to drive an actual scarab through ruins of a city, I'm guessing new Alexandria.

[analog salmon]

i think it was an alternative to the falcon mission

honestly im glad we got the falcon mission, i do think pillar of autumn should have been fleshed out into a few missions though

[magic loom]

Thats an interesting way to see it. The Falcon part your in the skies, then the scarab mission is on the surface. That would of been a very interesting dynamic

Was not a fan of the pillar of Autumn mission, just felt average really, not a very interesting final mission if you ask me.

But I was always curious about that one scarab mission. I think there was going to be huge lore reveal there.

[civic sundial]

It was where Kat was going to die originally

[magic loom]

Im gonna ask a couple questions and I think it connects to what you said its about Halo2

[misty vale]

If you approach the tank you can jump on it, you'll melee off some armor and then be able to plant a nade, which blows up the tank

[clear mulch]

Can you buy previous battle passes?

[civic sundial]

Yes

It's one of the best things about Infinite's battle passes, even when a season ended, the passes tied to them could still be bought

[unborn fox]

Silly question maybe since I'm just getting back into Infinite after a year, but is the covenant frontline coating not crosscore?

Oh dang. Hopefully it comes around often then

[teal scarab]

Anybody knows how come "Covenant Frontline" is only for Yoroi on twitch rn?
Isnt it cross-core?

[past jackal]

is it a helmet or armor set?

[teal scarab]

armor color

[past jackal]

ah

depends because some coatings go to every core, some just one, and some to just a few (i think because they haven't added it to newer cores

[teal scarab]

ye, the thing is, it has crosscore icon in game

but friend of mine wanted it for IV core, and yet, only available on Yoroi for some reasons =/

[past jackal]

did yall check any other armor core? it might just be that one cuz it's new

just checked and I see it on it...that makes no sense 😑

[crystal mortar]

i am here to say one thing and one thing only

Roses are red
and violets are blue
one day we'll cruise
down blood gulch avenue
It's red vs red
and blue vs blue
it's i against i and me against you
violets are blue
roses are red
living like this
we were already dead
hop in my car
it don't have any doors
it's built like cat
it lands on all fours
my car's like a puma
it drives on all fours

[haughty ravine]

Yo can K&M play in the tournaments and stuff?

[sour marlin]

I just played Halo wars 1 again after a few years and i was generously reminded how unreasonably overwhelming the covenant is on legendary, and how awful the unit pathing was

[misty vale]

Yes

[worn iron]

Idk why it bugs me so much that the Spartan armor in HW2 gameplay & cutscenes is different. Should've stuck with the original MKIV in the cinematics and not whatever hybrid model they chose for in-game

[worn iron]

The best is the "AUTOMATIC(200)" difficulty

Where you will have exactly 5 minutes before Scarabs and an entire army come for your base

[haughty ravine]

Bet thank you bro

[sour marlin]

Just for your cobra's to argue who should get out of the base first

[vale sentinel]

Will there be more Mark IV armour coming out?

[fading monolith]

Did the dev team ever follow up about ranked issues?

[finite river]

theres one next week

probably

[vale sentinel]

Are there any sources? (I believe you but I want to see what’s coming next week)

[finite river]

i mean it would make sense to drop new armours in the shop at the start of new content releases

[vale sentinel]

Has there been any vaulted items that has been unvaulted?

[finite river]

only the y1 hcs skins

[zinc flax]

Will Arbiter ever come to COD?

[spare basalt]

wort

[fierce gale]

wort wort wort

[empty rapids]

what i would give for them to chang sbmm in quick play

it is just so bad, and i just can't believe it's this bad this far from launch

[shy vessel]

bruh i just did all the weeklys in 2 matches

then it gave me 4 more

what kinda malarkey is that

[finite river]

you know theres a page to check all upcoming weeklies right

[shy vessel]

buddy

u dont get 8 weeklys tho

i just want this helmet im not trying to play an extra 8 games for it🤬

[spare basalt]

what helmet?

[shy vessel]

the weekly helmet

[spare basalt]

Ah ok

[velvet dirge]

Are you new to the game? It's like that since day one

[shy vessel]

i have never done 8 weeklys in one week

its normally like 4 or 5 if i have the pass

[velvet dirge]

Then you have never completed a weekly ultimate I guess

Since it has always been like that

[shy vessel]

i do most of them

it wasnt 8 for the last helmet

its normally 4-5 then the ultimate challenge

[finite river]

no its not

[velvet dirge]

Idk what to tell you lol, that's how it's been pal.
You can always switch challenges to something else if you have the switchers

[shy vessel]

i mean unless im completing a ton of challenges at once

its definitely been that way the whole time

[velvet dirge]

Since firefight came out lots of them were changed so you could complete them there as well

[shy vessel]

nah i dont play firefight

[velvet dirge]

So it could be that you're just completing them faster now

[shy vessel]

i guess so idk

thank you guys tho i guess i was tripping

must not have been paying much attention😭

[velvet dirge]

Could be

But they're incredibly easy and fast to complete

[finite river]

also fun fact it used to be 20 challenges and got cut to 10

[charred helm]

Need help, when trying to load a campaign level on MCC Halo 2, game just crashes after loading screen, ain't got a clue what is going on.

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[last dust]

watched big boss's video about halo infinite. i had no idea the game had such a slow content drip ;_;

[clear mulch]

Should halo add trading?

[signal ivy]

no

[ivory jewel]

Halo should add gambling

[velvet dirge]

Halo should add Poker

(please don't)

[civic sundial]

What would we even be trading?

[quasi nexus]

bro just look at the amount of maps added in 3 years haha. half are fan made

[livid epoch]

Any stinky Firefight grinders out there? I have a question.

Since CU29, Firefight enabled Join in Progress. For anyone who has joined in progress, have you been properly awarded Match XP bonuses for capturing Hills 3, 4 and 5?

[wide trout]

Yes

[clear mulch]

Skins, in game money. All that stuff.

Rocket league did it.

[stoic canopy]

Look, I understand the need for SBMM.

But why in the Forerunner's name can't it be 4/6/12 competent players vs. 4/6/12 competent players? Why is it ALWAYS 1/2 Competent players and then the rest of the team can't even properly operate the controller?

I'm so tired of playing a match having it be me on my team and one/two guys on the other team be positive, and then the rest of the people in the match are massively negative.

Like that isn't a "Game" its just "Who can farm the NPCs faster".

[clear mulch]

SBMM made casual competitive. We don't need it.

[clear mulch]

Also it's based off all around team skill instead off just your skill.

[north briar]

I have just gotten back into infinite after 3 years (last played 2021) and I had a question about the kits in game, if i unlock or buy a kit am i getting individual pieces or a core and if so can i still mix and match other pieces and colours

[leaden fulcrum]

is a new game announced yet?

dang

[north briar]

Do you know if this Is the case for jorges kit

Alright thanks thats helped me make an informed decision much appreciated

[quasi nexus]

just watched his video and when you lay it all out the way he did it's wild.

[coarse dagger]

Not going to see anything like that for a while yet

[coarse dagger]

SBMM has been a thing in both ranked and unranked playlists since Halo 2, it's absolutely needed

[onyx latch]

No it hasn't, trueskill isn't SBMM! It's True Skill, in the name!|| /s||

[left snow]

Mostly because the population in each playlist is spread thin.

And it's easy to overestimate the frequency of good players.

And partly because 343 are trying to minimise wait times.

[left snow]

117%

[north briar]

I have winter update thought it was free must have bought it 3 years ago

[left snow]

Player's have made casual competitive.

Expectations have changed.

Skill gaps have evolved.

[limber dove]

That's BS.

[clear mulch]

That's no excuse for a bad system

[north briar]

Yeah always loved jorge cause i always felt like the odd one out usually the tallest and most built and he encapsulates that perfectly

[left snow]

I stand corrected.

[ruby knoll]

pvp is inherently competitive

[magic loom]

fun fact hes another class of spartan in the game, same as chief both of that unique class are normally taller, cool right?

[clear mulch]

So is every game with any sort of multi-player aspects

[left snow]

It's not. And I think there is a lot they can do to improve things.

Sadly the discussion usually ends up falling into "get rid of SBMM".

But we're at the point were we probably have to wait for the Match Composer for 343 to be able to make any real in-roads into the issues.

[ruby knoll]

i mean, any game where multiple parties play to win is in fact, competitive

[magic loom]

Only issue I see is if you play competitively and next match you join in social to relax and have fun. Fun thats not possible because it puts you up against someone that you at the time we serious about winning a game with. Thats a thing I hear alot which I do sympathise with those people

Its very interesting

[north briar]

Is that random or did halsey just say “these ones need to be able to peek over a bus” lol

[left snow]

Combine desire to win and a self consciousness about personal performance - and you have the perfect storm.

[magic loom]

Jorge is actually a Spartan 2 thats Master Chief's class. You the player alongside noble team are Spartan 3s.

[uneven bison]

And a system that can be blamed easily

[ruby knoll]

here's the thing, what's meant by relaxing?

for me, i just don't care too much about the game outcome if i want to relax, and have fun with the gameplay aspects

[north briar]

Ahh really i never knew that i was under the impression that all the other spartan 2s up until that point had died thus making chief (and jorge in retrospect) more unique

[left snow]

You do have separate MMRs in Ranked and Social. Sure, your global MMR will drift up and down with form. But if you really are playing the different playlists with different skill and "intensity" - you should have a different experience in each.

[left snow]

SBMM is there for the greater good. But it's the scape goat for people's frustrations.

[magic loom]

From many people its all in one and not separated. My experience has been competitive with Infinite, back in the Reach days for me it was never that frequent.

Its a difficult subject to tackle but I do feel something is off about how its all done

[left snow]

And therein lies the problem. If people are going to play both with the same intensity - what are we expecting the game to do?

[left snow]

There is plenty that needs to be fixed; the way lobbies are constructed, the way CSR works in relation to MMR, how the sandbox encourages rank like (sweaty) play, etc.

[limber dove]

Game's system is screwed completely.

[magic loom]

The game cant predict when you want to play non competitive, that I think is a key issue, some say they want that hidden rank removed from social

[limber dove]

Usual corporates and shareholders moan about their money, gets rushed and CU29 was just a cashcow grab.

[left snow]

The system is complicated. And has a few "moving" parts. Which bit(s) do you think need fixing and what would you suggest?

[civic sundial]

I'm curious what makes them think it's "screwed completely"

[left snow]

Random match making would be a disaster for player retention. There is no way a game company would remove it.

[ruby knoll]

buzzwords

[magic loom]

Apologies for going over your question. When I meant by relaxing I was talking about playing non competitive and when joining another match with you no long playing serious, everyone else plays serious while your trying to enjoy yourself.

[ruby knoll]

there's frankly nothing the game or 343 can do about that

[left snow]

The current match maker is a problem. It's creating lobbies with too wide a gap between the best and worst players. The matches are "even" - but the player experience is not.

Unfortunately there is not much you can do about it without a Match Composer. And that is, touch wood, on it's way.

[magic loom]

Question I have is has it ever been attempted for social? just social remove the mmr or ranking.

[left snow]

Yeah, it's going to be difficult for the Match Maker to "predict" what all the players want.

[ruby knoll]

343 can make a playlist called "Ultra Casual Relaxation Playlist" and you'd have kill farmers join in 0.65 seconds

there's no way to "enforce" a casual playlist

[left snow]

They will have experimented with periods of low or no SBMM. I imagine the rates of players quitting and/or logging off would have climbed quickly.

[magic loom]

Didnt think it would go that deep

[left snow]

Imagine if you are a low ranked player. In the bottom 2-3%. There is a 97% chance any random player in the game is going to be better than you. You are going to get smashed. Your team is going to get stomped. Game after game. And you will log off.

And the opposite for the other end of the spectrum.

[magic loom]

There was the books that focused more on the Spartan 2s called the fall of reach, id say check it out its very interesting, I look up the online one

[uneven bison]

First strike has spartan 2 action as well