#halo-discussion

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crystal iron
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I hope you enjoy being spawned camped when playing MW3... Also I think only Warzone is free the MP is paid only

young glen
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Just Warzone.

crystal iron
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I had to stop playing MP in MW3, it was so bad, like I would spawn directly behind the enemy and vice versa, I had one clip where I tanked a whole magazind from another player and was able to full swing around and shoot them.

full warren
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warzone is the one you drop in battle royal and MP is just like halo 4v4 I assume?

agile cobalt
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havent had this much fun on halo infinite in months lmao, just got 3 games (1 was lost but it was lost due to our team just being worse then the other, it felt fair just we couldnt reach the l;imit before they did)

bright vessel
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Where's the best place to ask about MCC issues? Here or one of the threads on the Halo board?

sullen kilnBOT
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You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

signal furnace
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having tried the network test modes, I'm not hopeful. It doesn't feel any better or worse than before, and it only addresses one of the many issues I have with the game.

grave ether
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I've found the hit registration to be better along with some other things. Buuuut about a week ago all modes, new networking and not, both seem to be suffering with some weird server/network behavior

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Xbox live seems to have some glitches sprinkled in as well so it might just be some general server issues

full warren
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There was definitely something changed with the new update, ever since this new networking code came out all the other modes got worse. I normally play on 12 ping so never used to see problems but recently there is definitely more problem like rubber banding. Maybe they put all the resources in the squad battle lol

crystal iron
grave ether
# full warren There was definitely something changed with the new update, ever since this new ...

Rubber banding and teleporting in firefight have been crazy for me. It used to happen in the past on other game modes but I'd usually see a packet loss message or I'd notice a ping spike but not with these. Ping, frame rate seem stable and the rubber banding/teleporting issue is reported happening by my whole firesquad and we're on different ISP's so I know it's not on my end. Sometimes it happens to us at the same time, other times a friend will say it's started for him then a little bit later it'll hit me almost like we're taking turns.
Just strange all around

grave ether
crystal iron
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It also wasn't directly tied to when enemies dropped or explosion at least for my experience. Most of the time it's already dropping that frame rate when the 3rd or 4th round is about to start up

grave ether
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That's really strange

full warren
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Kinda wish they didn't put vehicles in team slayer, its really out of place and god awful if they just spam the ghost

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Really need a match composor so I can avoid that map

crystal iron
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Last round gave us the black eye Skull, we died lol..

crystal iron
full warren
stoic canopy
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I know it's kinda mean

But watching some of these people in matches is just...

I'm concerned about their ability to carry out basic tasks or perform simple motor functions IRL

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It's not even like the people who are brand new either; it's people who are Silver/Gold Career ranks behaving that way a lot of the time.

crystal iron
stoic canopy
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PvP

...but Firefight too

full warren
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I think most people are just bad at doing things lol.

ashen atlas
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I assume some of those people have been drinking and/or smoking

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My skills plummet when drinking

crystal iron
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The Repulsor Sticky grenade has become my new favorite combo in firefight lol... If I can t Use the grapple hook to yeet grunts at the brutes I'll use the Repulsor to yeet the Brite with a sticky on him to the grunts lol

worn iron
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Repulsor is the best for FF. You can pancake so many lol

crystal iron
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Ok these freaking Hammer Brutes in the first round can some OP hammer range

cinder nova
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i get you man

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but your criticism are just gonna fall on deaf ears. Its not even 343's fault the game is like this. this is what happens when a few companies monopolize the gaming industry and set the standards. AAA games have fallen so far from the quality they used to push out its insane. I dont blame 343 bc the culprit is microsoft itself. realistically 343 works with what they've got and do what they can but its not enough in the face of an overly capitalized industry

onyx latch
agile cobalt
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oh my lord

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mcc main menu music is so fire

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had it open overnight without realizing it

crystal iron
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So was the weekly timate a weapon charm cus I went to check and I didn't get anything mew

frosty condor
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It feels so good when you’re spawn killing with the hammer, but it sucks so much when you’re on the receiving end of it

crystal iron
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But now I return back to firefight, I noticed the challenges can be done in either but the final one is PVP only, so It kinda makes me have tomplay that if I want to see what this Reward is... I still don't know what I got either

frosty condor
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It’s a candy cane weapon charm

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That’s super pointy (sharp) on one end

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You can see it on the main menu’s splash screen that rotates

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Little news thing

crystal iron
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That was weird my whole team Got one shotted by a Skimmer, Full shields but it spawned in not a boss, wave three an d oom just me shots us all

drifting zephyr
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Anyone got mcc?

crystal iron
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The bots dying and that counting towards us not getting a skull is really gotten annoying

crystal iron
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Does the incoming wave come in dependent on how much of the Hill you have taken cus The final round was crazy, one wave came in in and it was like every 3 seconds new waves dropped in and I turn around and there is Big boy Escherum just rolling up on me

ebon lava
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is there a way to engage in a discussion while sending videos/media alongwith to help make your point come across better?

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cuz in #1039633978841374720 i dont need any option to send media while creating threads, maybe I'm dumb idk

crystal iron
ebon lava
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unfortunate

crystal iron
crystal iron
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Well submitted another ticket for the frame rate issue occuring in firefight, I'm sure if anything is done it won't be until next year though.
On the plus side it only happens like every maybe 10th match on average.

It unless I'm like on the last round I just back out.

full warren
grave ether
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Have you tried lowering your frame rate and seeing if it still does it?

sand matrix
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Hi

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what is best halo game for xbox seres s

celest heron
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mcc, infinite

full warren
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Win is +11 and loss is -5.. but I am lossing 2 everytime I win 1 haha lol This is kinda a annoying aituation but also good situation...

neon wigeon
crystal iron
grave ether
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Setting it to performance was what I was thinking when I said to drop the frames, didn't remember what the settings was called off hand.
But nevermind since you already have that set

covert bobcat
onyx latch
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5's left behind because you don't really get much out of it as the other two sadly.

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I don't think it runs any different, such as at a higher FPS?

neon wigeon
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An unexpected driving test happened and I was killed during it

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I walked out one of the bunkers I looked left then suddenly I was killed by a car

crystal iron
# grave ether Setting it to performance was what I was thinking when I said to drop the frames...

That was actually the first thing I checked because I had to hard reset the Series X once I figured ok maybe my settings reset.

It it happened again today, and I had my headset on, luckily an other player had his on too.

And Inexperienced it in round 4 he experienced it in round 3, so At least for sure it's not hitting each player all at once , at least in this instance.

This could also be why I have seen Players quit in random points of the game more frequently lately.

onyx latch
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I was pung

crystal iron
crystal iron
neon wigeon
crystal iron
# neon wigeon Nah it was funny

Lol Oh I actually just experienced something funnier in Real life as I was typing that. But it would only be understandably funny if you have played Elden Ring and ran into a specific enemy

neon wigeon
neon wigeon
crystal iron
neon wigeon
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Yes

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It was annoying at first

crystal iron
# neon wigeon Yes

I was walking into Starbucks and there was some dude singing like that, lol made me rethink my approach to Starbucks

neon wigeon
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Lmao

crystal iron
# neon wigeon Lmao

When I first encountered them I thought oh cool a singing NPC possibly a new merchant.... I was wrong

neon wigeon
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I just ate a rope

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Yum

crystal iron
neon wigeon
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Cool

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Man these ropes are good

crystal iron
# neon wigeon Cool

But those freaking Cave goblins things kept getting me in my first playthrough lol

coarse dagger
neon wigeon
coarse dagger
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Because I'm telling you to

neon wigeon
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I learned something today

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You get a warning by doing that

neon wigeon
crystal iron
coarse dagger
neon wigeon
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Ok

crystal iron
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Naw I'm good for now, I have to focus on these rounds, I'ma trying to get a baseline for when the frame rate issue happens.

crystal iron
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Hunter bosses drop In last round on behemoth,... Life then to the edge.... Use Repulsor... Bosses defeated lol

tulip tusk
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yup

lost moth
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@proven breach Where is the proper place to give feedback on forge for Infinite? I have some really great ideas I would love to see in Infinites forge especially when it comes to the options we have for trees.

coarse dagger
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The best place for giving feedback is making a thread in the #1039633978841374720 forum, you can add a Forge tag to your message

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For future note, please don't ping 343 employees :)

lost moth
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@coarse daggerThank you because I didnt know how to give any feedback or anything.

coarse dagger
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👍

untold quail
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Beginning my LASO run of all the Halo games. Have completed Infinite and onto Truth and Reconciliation on Halo CE (weird order don’t worry about it). Anyone got any tips for any missions or later games that may be handy

worn iron
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Don't die

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And plasma pistol + your choice of single-fire weapon usually does the trick

marble halo
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im so tired of this game being horrendously optimized and crashing so often on my PC. Only game this happens to for me.

onyx latch
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"Horrendously optimized" (It doesn't run on my 960 with 2 gigs of RAM)

crystal iron
celest heron
crystal iron
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Where can I go in the server to ask if people wanna play ?

celest heron
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lfg channels

crystal iron
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Thanks bro 😎

worn iron
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I've got a 4080 now but you really shouldn't have any issues if your pc was spec'd within the last 7 years or so

marble halo
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I ran much more demanding games fine

worn iron
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Weird because I just said I had multiple systems and all of them are capable of running the same game without a single hiccup

marble halo
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Support team basically told me they had no fix

worn iron
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Probably because it's bad PR to tell you to get better specs

marble halo
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My stuff defaults to high it’s not the specs lol

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I submitted my specs to them, I told them my settings I had drivers reverted and everything

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It’s ONLY halo that gives me issues

worn iron
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post specs

sullen owl
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Super curious on those specs.

marble halo
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These are from the original tech support inquiry dxdiag

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Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19045) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
System Model: Z390 UD
BIOS: F9 (type: UEFI)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
Memory: 24576MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 24506MB RAM
Page File: 21190MB used, 21747MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, no HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8
DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.3570 64bit Unicode

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Chip type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
Display Memory: 20255 MB
Dedicated Memory: 8002 MB
Shared Memory: 12253 MB

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if you can sus out whats wrong then give yourself a pat on the back, you are better than their support people

sullen owl
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Should work. Eh, I'd post something in #1075989764026675210 and see if you get any recommendations there. Make sure the game is installed on an SSD and you're up to date on drivers.

worn iron
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I'd suggest: updating drivers as needed, monitor system temps to ensure there’s no overheating causing performance issues, if all else fails, uninstall the HD pack

marble halo
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Been a persistent problem since launch. Mcc was always fine. I actually don’t remember the campaign crashing. Hd pack not installed. Stuff is running in low with simulation on high. Maaaybe should look at the overheating I guess.

Like I said, this the only game it’s such an issue in.

proven verge
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/z.xn. zxl

ruby knoll
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no

jolly sapphire
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Quick question does anyone know a good discord or a place on here to set up a Halo: MCC custom games?

rotund zenith
neon wigeon
zenith vigil
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are there any devs on mcc anymore or is it over

sullen owl
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Latest information we have from official sources is that they're still working on MCC.

celest heron
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waiting for the next update 💀

sullen owl
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Dude on my team drives over a tripmine, they all die in the hog and I get kicked and temp banned.

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I cry every time.

drifting shore
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What season should I get for the bestest swag skins

rotund zenith
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Id say season2 for the rakshasa but that can feel especially long if you're not interested in the mk7 they also threw in there

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The newest season is probs the most time efficient with it being compressed into 50 tiers

wild shuttle
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Anyone know when next Arena rank reset will be? Thank you.

dusk whale
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i would guess jan 30th when the next season hits

knotty ermine
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the camera for the first person needs to be moved up. idk why it's on the chest like a body cam

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getting shot in the head when in my pov I can't see them is kinda lame

lime robin
knotty ermine
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I don't believe you

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this is the only game where i've had an issue where the camera feels so low that it feels like my head is higher than it should be

lime robin
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You don't have to

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knotty ermine
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thats the viewmodel..

onyx latch
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It's literally a universal problem, it doesn't matter if you believe that devious Merty is attempting to trick you out of your Christmas treats.

knotty ermine
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okay but i'm still right. saying other games have it doesn't fix the problem lmao

lime robin
knotty ermine
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what? they're not even the same thing unless you're just curious because im just going to use the flat out definition. idk why I have ot make up one

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viewmodel is whatever is shown on screen as to what the character is holding from a weapon or tool. camera is what you're viewing the game in.

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thats why you can change weapon viewmodels in games like csgo or halo so you can move the weapon around how you like

lime robin
knotty ermine
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the camera being too low to the point that you have fake covers.

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something I noticed in this game the most when forging. if you crouch your head can easily be seen but because the camera is so low you can't see them

onyx latch
knotty ermine
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try to be a smartass when you're correct cause that was horrible

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I will gladly show you what I mean in forge if you have the time

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cause it's something I had to work around to make sure there isn't any fake covers in my map

lime robin
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Keep it civil.

knotty ermine
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I will if he didn't try to act like that

worn iron
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There's also FOV to take into account

onyx latch
knotty ermine
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oh god thats even worse now that you brought that up. cause when Im playing in 115 fov. people playing in lower probably can see less in cover

knotty ermine
# onyx latch

dude. stop acting like you're right. "keep it civil"

onyx latch
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I mean, I literally am right, so.

knotty ermine
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you're not even understanding whats happening or you think you actually have tested this in game

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no you're not. I have tested the game enough to know how much fake cover can exist in this game if you aren't careful when forging

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I've tested this in forge myself back in october

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the camera is on your chest bud

onyx latch
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I'm just imagining someone yelling at the pearly gates about how the Japanese couldn't have possibly headshot him when he was hiding in his foxhole (His helmet was over the top)

lime robin
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You're not making a lot of sense for someone who claims they are completely right, but insulting others when all they're trying to do is attempting to understand your point will get you nowhere

knotty ermine
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me? or him?

worn iron
lime robin
knotty ermine
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cause he's not trying to understand. he's just being rude.

onyx latch
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I think I'm actually being pretty polite by my standards.

knotty ermine
lime robin
knotty ermine
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im being told to be civil. this is pretty bias

onyx latch
lime robin
knotty ermine
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not being one is a better first step

lime robin
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You're literally exploding at any comment that doesn't agree with your point of view

knotty ermine
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no I was willing to show in game but he comes in acting that way of course im going to do that

onyx latch
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You explode at people for reminding you that foreheads exist?

worn iron
knotty ermine
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he's been the only one arguing against it while you've brought up the meme which we moved to viewmodel but then trenchbird comes in acting like he's right but he's acting like the camera is at eye level

lime robin
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I actually think it is

knotty ermine
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it's not. i've tested it

lime robin
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I tested Forge when it came out at its moment, and had the same problem as you

knotty ermine
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tested forge? you mean tested in forge

worn iron
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Pot, meet kettle

lime robin
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I was covered in my eyes, but there was a part of the head that stood out, and needed additional friends to help me out to cover the rest of the forehead.

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The View model is at the chest, but the actual cover does work at the eyes. I understand what you meant now.

knotty ermine
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I was about to go to forge to test something for more confirmation and crashed. one sec

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one sec cause the last time I tested this was on october and it wasn't just cover but I had someone point their barrel at me and they told me it was at the chest

lime robin
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If I were at home I'd show you a map I never finished that uses that concept, but the point is: The game does take eyes and foreheads into account.

knotty ermine
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im going now. cause i've done some testing knowing that it feels like it's too low for your camera

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I can't post pics here sadly but regardless

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knotty ermine
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okay atm I found that the camera is practically at the chin or mouth of the head. like the lower part of the helmet

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still pretty low but not as low as I thought

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yeah it's basically not exactly on eye level but where our mouth is. which is kinda weird

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and not only that but the way your player facing can get you in a more vulnerable position. looking down while in cover is better lol

lime robin
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Not exactly related but you reminded me of this video

full warren
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was just checking stats, a guy got 49/50 kills in a slayer

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He must beed super annoyed somene stole 1 kill lol

azure wagon
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I got a few questions about halo infinite can I DM anyone?

coarse dagger
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Feel free to ask them here

agile cobalt
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just had a 47 kill game because my entire team was treating it like slayer

young glen
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Their team mates must've been the noobiest of the noobs.

full warren
agile cobalt
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no it was ctf

full warren
agile cobalt
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we had a couple newbies trying to defend flag

full warren
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No idea how he get these magical match making, he won that game too

agile cobalt
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which was kinda based

shy vine
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nothing like when the update is bigger then the game itself (im never going to get to playing 😔 )

vapid marten
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Firefight KOTH Legendary should be renamed; Hide 'n Seek from the Phantoms

quick pagoda
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Has 343 announced cross play for the other campaigns on mcc ?

frosty condor
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Nope

untold quail
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Halo CE LASO run has stagnated on Truth and Reconciliation. What tf does one do to win against the 50 covenant in the ship? 😭

serene furnace
untold quail
# serene furnace Camp in one of the rooms they spawn from

That’s what I’ve been going for. I immediately charge the invisible swordsman at the start and go into the corridors, force the enemies to spawn and then have been banking on a grunt chain-reaction to kill the half-a-dozen golden elites. Never can seem to do it, and they take 3 sniper shots per. Might just be a case of RNG but I’m hoping more that I’m neglecting a tip

livid epoch
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Is there any sort of consensus on which Firefight playlist ends up being the best for maximum Career Rank and Match XP gains?

I figured Normal because shorter matches make up for the lack of a playlist multiplier but curious if there’s any math.

frosty condor
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I think heroic is that perfect mix of both quick games and some boost in xp

crystal iron
worn iron
frosty condor
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I believe normal FF gives no career rank xp bonus, heroic give 1.2x and legendary does 1.4x

worn iron
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Not bad. Though I usually get matched with people who quit so idk if going Heroic is worth it for me lol

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I can hold my own when it comes to normal FF but I haven't tried Heroic

ruby knoll
crystal iron
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Ok something is going on with Halo I finite, just ran into the frame.rate dropping issue with firefight, left the game went back to main menu and the Screen was showing the frame rate was dropping from 95 to 80 and was just going back and forth. I think my game.isnhabing some connection issue with the server that's affecting the frame rate

crystal iron
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My frame rate at main screen is always a solid 120 as well,
But after that match it was bouncing around. But under 95fps.

I'm thinking there is an issue between my game and the Game server

zenith vigil
sullen owl
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The source is 343 staff themselves, the only authority for Halo information. They'll make a final MCC update post when the time for it comes. Latest Digsite post left off that they were still working on things.

left snow
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Happy New Year.

quick pagoda
wary matrix
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you can bring banshes into the tartarus boosfight by removing their wings

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since the place where you load the custscene is also part of the boss level , i never realized that , how cool is it

white birch
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Thats been known since Halo 2. People were doing it for LASO runs

celest heron
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wait until they find out you can also use the spectre with three Johnsons.

serene furnace
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Like I've said before, Halo 2 is broken

celest heron
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broken tricks for a broken difficulty

livid epoch
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Does anyone know if any of the Firefight maps have enough unique vehicles on them to unlock the Multi-class Racer achievement?

Drive 4 unique vehicles in a game

frosty condor
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I don’t even know that was an achievement

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And I think the answer is no

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It’s mostly warthog, mongoose, gungoose, or chopper

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Most I’ve seen on a map is 2 separate vehicles

celest heron
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think there's also a ghost

winter sky
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Anyone know the chances of the firefight skull being enabled?

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Because I heard it happens but never experienced it

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*bandana whoops

celest heron
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you can't have any deaths during a hill round or on a more rare occasion it will turn on at the beginning of a game.

winter sky
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Okay thanks

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That would be a crutch for legendary

young glen
livid epoch
frosty condor
celest heron
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ugh, hate when there's a monthly ff challenge cause then I run into more afk losers.

loud wharf
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ff challenge?

celest heron
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mcc

analog salmon
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what challenge @celest heron

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i wanna maybe do the endure challenges but its hard to find a group

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there's the flood one as well

celest heron
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it's complete 20 ff games

analog salmon
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ahhh

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yah it just ruins any game when there's afks

celest heron
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yeah, I can still win with them, but I don't like giving them free wins by doing all the work.

analog salmon
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idk for certain but maybeee if you block you dont match with them again

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i've been blocking sweat stacks and afks in mcc and i dont recall matching with them again but i aint tested much

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but im down for endure or the flood firefight challenge

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im in UK but i dont mind playing on US East servers

crystal iron
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I just finished a slayer where I had 39 kills and my teammates had 7. How?

How is the 9 in 39 larger then the total kills of 3 players combined? OMG they want me bouncing again for 2 months. I swear one would think so

crystal iron
slow walrus
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are custom games in the MCC server based like Infinite or P2P?

slim flint
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I had to pay for xbox live

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but it’s worth it

hallow mortar
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Hi

languid olive
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Halo Infiite Co op achievenments, how do they work? do they have to be done with the same person? Like the FOB one, can i do half with someone and then half with someone else?

knotty ermine
analog salmon
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it will find 8 players as fast as it possibly can so long as the average skill of both teams is relatively similar

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the skill of players within a team is not considered pretty much

crystal iron
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So hypothetically speaking if my MMR is 1700

They're going to give me three players who have an MMR combined of 300 and possibly make the other four more equally balanced so that the total equals the same number

analog salmon
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they dont give you players so to speak

crystal iron
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Basically it's 1766 onyx with three silvers

Versus four Platinum players

Seems balanced

analog salmon
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its entirely possible you could be in a game with all 1700s

crystal iron
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Call me when that happens, I will kiss the feet of a 343 representative

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I have a thousand games played, at least.

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8k

analog salmon
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if you're 1700 you're in the 1% highest skill players

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getting 39 of your teams in social is just how it is

crystal iron
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I don't care if I'm the highest in the lobby every damn time, stop putting me in position where I have to play my other teams 25% while constantly having to com to them because they have no clue what to do. If you give me three silver players on my team, I better see a pro on the other team with three silvers.. . that's balanced for me

analog salmon
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think its important to clarify ranked or social here

crystal iron
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It happens in both

The only difference is in ranked, I'm getting three and four stacks 3/4 of the time.

In social it's more like 25%

analog salmon
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its not the same though, if you're going 39 kills in ranked that would be madness

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different expectations

crystal iron
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I've gone 50 kills in ranked before. It's going to happen from time to time, my issue is I don't care to have top frag on the team. I want competent players on my team, and equally theirs. And stop putting me up against tier 2 pros who bring their four stacks. I solo queue, so please put me in that queue.

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My first game back after taking a 2-month break, they threw me in a lobby with lucid. On what planet Earth is that even acceptable to begin with

analog salmon
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if you went 50 kills in slayer in ranked that would be bonkers

crystal iron
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Well clearly I didn't go 50 kills in Slayer. That would mean I played against bots and my other team was just setting me up

analog salmon
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they cant pay any attention to breaks because people use alt accounts

crystal iron
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Baiting for me basically

grave ether
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Did you warm up in different matches or just go straight to ranked after two months?

analog salmon
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if a break gave you easier matches people would abuse it to switch between different accounts sadly

crystal iron
grave ether
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Well there you go

analog salmon
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there is no way around the fact you're getting ratio'd in ranked if you come back after a break. nothing can be done about that

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it happens to everyone

grave ether
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Oddly enough, if I've had a break for a while, matches do seem easier. But I won't jump straight into ranked after letting rust accumulate

crystal iron
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Even if what occurred that first match was perfectly fine, why is it I'm getting so screwed in matchmaking that in order to prove this point I had to duo with somebody to prove it. What is wrong with my account for them to be doing this unless everybody's getting screwed

grave ether
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And if your rank went down after a break and not performing to the top of your abilities, it does seem fair that you would have some rank loss since you wouldn't be at that tier of gameplay in the player pool anymore

analog salmon
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sometimes ur MMR goes out of wack

crystal iron
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I don't care about losing rank, I care about having proper teammates and enemies and a true balance in the game. There is no such thing when I play, and that is at least 90% of the time

analog salmon
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unless you have a negative W/L in ranked you are getting overall balanced games

crystal iron
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It doesn't matter if I dropped or increase in ranked, I'm getting lobbies that are supremely mismatched, and typically against me. I'll be facing people in Slayer and they get 3,000 damage for all four teammates, meanwhile my teammates can't even touch 1200 damage

crystal iron
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Fix it

analog salmon
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i dont want to come across dismissisve but you do have to see the bigger picture and judge by your stats, not how you feel after a losing streak

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if you are winning as many games as you're losing, the trend does suggest your games are balanced

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MMR is never going to be perfect and taking breaks from the game is always going to cause a difference in your skill and your MMR

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whether that's cause your rusty or everyone else's MMR has changed

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MMR is a relative measure, it's not an absolute measure of skill

crystal iron
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No one's asking for perfection, but it is so bad it is laughable.
This was happening before I took my break and after. It's a common issue

analog salmon
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i find looking at stats for my past 20 games tells a different picture to how i feel most of the time

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like its not perfect dont get me wrong

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but it's easy to feel like it's more broken then it actually is

crystal iron
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I can't speak for you, but I look at my stats after every single game. I watch bad and I review them, I watched pros and I review them. There's very little that'll get past me. My issue isn't whether I'm winning or losing. My issue is the lack of proper balance in the actual game when it comes to the teammate I get and the enemies

analog salmon
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for 1700 onyx you have to keep in mind the % of the player base you're in

crystal iron
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It's basically like the game giving lucid 3 low onyx players, well then putting them up against 4 1650 players

analog salmon
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what else can it really do though

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how many lucid level players are matchmaking, how long should lucid have to matchmake for?

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i doubt lucid wants to wait for 3 other lucids

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respectfully high level players have a somewhat tainted view of the overall player base

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like the attitude anyone below 1600 is trash etc

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you might not even play halo that much and you just have some crazy level of skill nautrally, but you're still in the highest 1%

crystal iron
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  1. They're not allow solo queue players to face three or four stacks more than once every five matches

  2. Allow the difference between me and my teammates to be no larger then 100mmr

  3. Allow for my enemy team MMR to match no more then a 100mmr difference between each other n enemy

That will balance out the matchmaking

As for map design and the sandbox in general, that's a whole other problem to tackle later on

crystal iron
analog salmon
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its less then 1% of the overall infinite player base

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it might be like 5% of ranked idk

crystal iron
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I don't judge players worse then me. If u saw me during flights, you'd say this guys a bot, marine difficulty.

analog salmon
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i do wonder at any given time what % of active players are 1400, 1500, 1600, 1700 etc

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obviously high level players tend to play the game more

crystal iron
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I don't know the answer to that

analog salmon
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but i do think 1700 is a niche of a niche

full warren
crystal iron
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I just want to play Halo, sometimes autopilot and not have to play my teams roles.

Why is it in valorant, people are at least semi competent at the lower levels. It's frustrating.

And on the flip side, I've played versus a team that is so bad; I'd run to them and drop them power weapons just so they can find a way to make it competitive

crystal iron
analog salmon
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a big part is going to be valorant having a bigger population

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even if infinite has room to improve the matchmaking

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more players makes things a lot easier

full warren
crystal iron
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Make the game better then

full warren
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unless you want the sbmm to be tighter in social then yes that is possible, but tehn other people start complaining

analog salmon
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balanced is key lightning, 343 arent wrong about that

crystal iron
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How about we start tightening it for people at higher level ranks so that it's a little bit more competitive

full warren
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People complained the tigheter sbmm is making them having to try hard every game so tehy asked for looser sbmm, but lossing did not help wiht having to try hard in every game

analog salmon
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you want people to get into halo you can't just have them losing until they finally get good

full warren
analog salmon
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its life but its not how to make a video game popular

full warren
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stop handing out participation tropies, a guy getting 0/15 on my team but getting the win is just a joke lol

crystal iron
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So what you're saying is, if we have a thousand Jimmywhimmy 452's, continue to put them on my team so I can carry them to W's?

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Nah, I wanna have fun too

analog salmon
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so they will go play a game that hands out participation trophies instead and halo will become irrelevant

full warren
analog salmon
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you can literally experience exactly what ur saying

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its called MCC, it doesn't balance teams

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stacks win 100% of their games

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its horrible. its killed mcc for me

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im a good player and mcc is pretty much unplayable because stacks can just dump on lobby after lobby

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enforced balance is not the evil you think it is

full warren
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I mean, then they should stop people stacking

analog salmon
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its all trade offs

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imagine the outcry if they did that

full warren
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I mean there are stacks in this game but most people I see playing are solos

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an obiously there are game modes like squad and BTB that are accomadating for stacks so they can go play there

analog salmon
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mate sweats LFG for other sweats, dont even use comms, just so they can dump on solos in MCC

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they dont do it in infinite because Infinite makes them wait for a balanced team to face

full warren
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Well I don't know about mcc stuff since I never played it. Just give people a options before they play, solo socials or open socials lol

analog salmon
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its sad but a significant number of above average players just want to dump on lower skill players, and will go out of their way to abuse the lack of enforce balance

full warren
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if people pick solo they get all solo games and if open they can potentially face teams

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or another option as "don't care" so they can be put in either

analog salmon
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stacks of casual players arent a problem and would then face long matchmaking times

full warren
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I mean that is the choice of them picking to be a stack.

analog salmon
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yes but you dont suffer from playing against them

full warren
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I only see two kinds of stacks, a bunch of noobs playing together and all quit once they are getting stomped. and stacks of try hard playing together to try to win more.

analog salmon
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so now a potential team you could have a good game against you cant match with

full warren
analog salmon
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honestly the solution is just make ranked more enticing so everyone who doesn't wanna carry noobs can just play ranked

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which means more new dev quality maps for ranked imo

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you say you dont like participation awards and bad players should lose

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so by that logic you are also happy to play against players the same skill as you

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like ultimately that's fair and balanced and doesnt make you carry

full warren
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I mean yes, I would happilly if they made social sbmm just like ranked

analog salmon
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but why dont you just play ranked

full warren
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I don't like the bandit lol

analog salmon
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lol i mean i was hoping you'd say it's repetitive with the small pool of maps but if you just dont like the bandit then ig that's fair lol

full warren
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I just want slgihtly more weapon choices lol

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if they had a match composer and I can pick BR ranked games only I would be happy with that

analog salmon
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ranked is already too small pool of players honestly

full warren
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I mean ranked is the most played list I think?

analog salmon
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maybe they could chaneg BR and bandit season to season

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yeah but with SBMM the times are only just barable really

full warren
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Atleast there is ff so when I don't want to play any modes I jump on that for a game then I can go back to playing quick player and team slayer

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I know I been saying all this, but I truely have 0 hope they will change anything so I kinda accpeted it already, I just play and stay angry lol

analog salmon
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there's no real easy solutions

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maybe if the game was delayed it would have had a better launch and retained more players, but who really knows

full warren
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oh yeah now with more new players joining the game, I actually see a ton of them in my games lol. kinda funny. also I don't know why halo 3 playerlist is crazy on sbmm, its just like ranked

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but only 50% of the time

analog salmon
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i just try to play during peak hours when i can find ranked matches quickly since that's what i enjoy the most

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and dont play every day or the pool of maps gets dull lol

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i think at its core infinite has amazing gameplay but it can only offer so much enjoyment

full warren
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I love the gun fights lol

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I mean I must love somethign to be still playuing it

analog salmon
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yah i feel

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i do think taking a step back and having breaks has let me appreciate this game more

left snow
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"Hypothetically" - MMR of 1700+ is less than 0.4% of the population.

So less than 4 in a 1000.

snow wigeon
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Is there any point passing 500 point for premium pass?

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Paying I mean

coarse dagger
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You get an additional challenge slot and a bonus cosmetic item

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And you can take however long you want to complete the pass, it won't ever expire

snow wigeon
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The pass is worthless. It not going to get my credit back

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I already completed 20 level

white birch
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Guess you answered your own question

tulip tusk
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you get the blue snow skin thing it looks pretty cool

muted socket
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my halo Infinite doesnt seem to want to open on steam i have tried verifing files and such but still wont open

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how do i fix this

sullen kilnBOT
#

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ruby lake
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wow!!!!! an additional obstacle and a digital color scheme if i buy the recent pass!...

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...
are you kidding me?

ivory seal
#

anyone have tips for legendary firefight on infinite?

signal ivy
ruby lake
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wooowwwwww

grave ether
ruby lake
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so how much is it

ruby knoll
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$5

ruby lake
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oh my god

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five dollars

ruby knoll
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yep

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no more, no less

exactly 5 dollars

ruby lake
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wowww!!

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five dollars ...

ruby knoll
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yep

analog salmon
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you can carry more then one

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so if you just stock up on them you can act as a medic lol

#

ur team mates might be like "why's this guy on the other side of the map from the hill" but after you revive them multple times with the regen they'll understand

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and you still get the overshield from reviving someone with a regen

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so even if they die because you're getting the regen, it's still a net benefit usually

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also if two people are down, use the overshield to revive the next person

crystal iron
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So the frame.rate issue still occurs it really only like 1 or 2 games out of 15 but it is still an issue I would to see resolved.

The ticket I put in did get a response that after all their suggested trouble shoots it's been pushed to the dev team again to find a active solution.

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It for now I'ma take a. Real from firefight core a few rounds and do some plunder

winter sky
agile cobalt
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just got banned from matchmaking because this 1 dude kept betraying himself on my vehicles

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dude was walking out infront of me when i was in ghosts

grave ether
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If it was clear it was intentional you can capture it and file a report for griefing

agile cobalt
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true

crystal iron
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I came.to get food, and now I'm wishing I would have just made a sandwich at home...

But here I am Waiting for. Freaking set of fries lol, when I could have still been at home playing firefight lol...

agile cobalt
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hero rank grind frfr

muted socket
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have they redone bits of the campaign on infinite?

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the first mission feels different at parts

agile cobalt
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if they have they havent told us

muted socket
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the first mission has completely new cutscenes from when i last played it

serene torrent
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what're the differences

crystal iron
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A.yoje else think Escherums a. But too Bullet Spongey

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At least on. Formal Firefight

empty chasm
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Why people scared to run scrims rn

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I have 4, we need 4 more

crystal iron
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I just noticed all my skins and kill affects were removed from my weapons.

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Ok sweet it was just that last round of Firefight my sniper who h I picked up from a weapon pickup didn't have the skin or death affect applied

white birch
crystal iron
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Omg I was so close to scoring 6k+ in normal Firefight

compact dove
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If they Port Halo5 to Pc it will Immediately have a larger Player Base than Infinite

crystal iron
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Lol, ok Just saw a TikTok on a topic which I agree with, given if there are.no with on Board, 2 Spartans Could take out an entire Star destroyer, I mean I'm sure one could but 2 just as an Insurance policy

worn iron
crystal iron
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Can one get an insurance policy out with Spartan coverage?

wanton pivot
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Are there like server issues at the moment or something? I load in the game and it says I'm offline, it worked well last week

crystal iron
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Skill issue

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But no issues. Jus finished 2 games

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Both games 65 ping dough

wanton pivot
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Steam version lets me in game but would usually have cloud sync issues after I exit, meanwhile the Xbox app version says I can't login xbox live and can't even launch the game

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Welp time to watch some Indian tutorial videos for a very specific error code

coarse dagger
crystal iron
crystal iron
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Not going to lie the two Hammer Brutes with I finite jump range are annoying

wanton pivot
crystal iron
crystal iron
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Yea, sup with my frames going from 120 to 90 to 70. What?

crystal iron
crystal iron
crystal iron
# crystal iron Skill issue 😉

Lol right, It wasn't so often at first but now it's about every other game it happens . Already submitted a ticket so Hopefully they fix it.

#

It's crazy how they said this game was planned for 10 years. Like, it's barely suited for beta. Hopefully next game is on a new engine

worn iron
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The campaign lasted all of 8 hours, and multiplayer has only a handful of maps and game modes-- idk what they were thinking when they said Infinite will be the Halo game for the next decade

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Even things like most wildlife didn't make it to the final version lol

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But hey, we got a ton of ugly skins that make zero practical sense and weapon charms 🥴

wanton pivot
mild adder
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I finally got mcc downloaded on my pc

crystal iron
# worn iron The campaign lasted all of 8 hours, and multiplayer has only a handful of maps a...

Yeah the campaign was a pretty big let down for me. I appreciated the story but it felt incredibly sterile. They were building up to some really cool post-created insurgent style gameplay and storytelling in Halo 5 and then Infinite just reset everything again. Didn't even build on the Halo Wars 2 story which directly ties into the end of Halo 5.

Really tried to like it but couldn't. The multiplayer is solid and the firefight is good but compared to a lot of the systems in 5, like Warzone Firefight, it really doesn't feel as comprehensive. Warzone firefight has so much more polish to it, like the vehicle and weapon sandbox, the bosses, and the pelican drop off.

rich berry
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I completely forgot the winter contingency operation was a thing

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I’ve been playing a lot more of halo infinite recently

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I left it for a bit in season 3 but with season 5 I got back into it and it’s been rlly fun again

compact bough
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Game is in a great state now

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well cant type that

rich berry
compact bough
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game launch isnt really bad at launch

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facts, what happened with infinite was needed so pierre could take over and quite literally save the game + 343

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idk what the hell the old management was doing

sullen owl
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$ > Anything Else

rich berry
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Yeah it felt unfinished

summer herald
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honestly having a grand old time on the game rn

sullen owl
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Feels great and the challenge system changes respect my time now.

compact bough
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it WAS unfinished, we had like 3 gamemodes and 4 maps, but we did have that 20 dollar armor lmfaooo

#

Christ thats a reminder, the old challenge system was so insanely bad

#

50 EXP

rich berry
compact bough
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yeah it was rough, infinite is great now though, once desync is fully sorted out the game will pretty much be fixed

rich berry
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yeah firefights been a good addition to infinite I’ve played sm of it recently

compact bough
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the twist on firefight is great, legendary is actually a challenge

rich berry
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yeah the game feels like it has a soul now and I’m here for it

compact bough
#

Warzone Firefight in H5 was also up there for me, the campaign of that game may have been bad but the multiplayer was an insane amount of fun

rich berry
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yeah my and friends used to goof around on warzone firefight it made me actually like guardians

compact bough
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That was the highlight of H5, and infection

rich berry
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I hope that next season of infinite is good

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the operations and other new editions have been fun so I’m sure it will be

summer herald
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i’m hyped 4 it

coarse dagger
#

Leaks and data mined content is not up for discussion here

rich berry
#

Mb

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I hope the Halo 3 version of Recon gets added to infinite

worn iron
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I miss Halo 5 Warzone-- now that was a timeless game mode

summer herald
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cash grab or not least it’s fun now

rich berry
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I hope they bring it back soon

worn iron
rich berry
summer herald
worn iron
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That doesn't stop me from playing hours of FF KOTH every day 😂

rich berry
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The sbmm has been a bit hit and miss a lot

crystal iron
summer herald
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controller aim feels a lil off but that might jus be me

rich berry
summer herald
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same team that fixed mcc yeah?

coarse dagger
#

The current team working on Infinite is pretty much the same team since launch

#

Few folk have come and go since then, some changed positions

serene furnace
worn iron
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And that's why it felt so unfinished

coarse dagger
#

At the beginning of 2023 Microsoft, like a lot of the tech industry, had to lay off a lot of staff.
Most of the staff 343 lost at that time were on the campaign side, some production/media

ruby knoll
coarse dagger
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yep

ruby knoll
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not to mention pierre hintze was hired by le evil and spooky "old management"

ruby knoll
# coarse dagger yep

turnaround times can be all over the place, stuff can be under development long before it's even announced. Certainly this isn't to take away from work done by anyone new, but more to highlight that people have been working on stuff for a while

smoky wave
celest heron
full warren
open umbra
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Yes, it takes awhile.

tulip tusk
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yea it's great for revives, any orb in its aoe gets revived

full warren
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Thats cool I wonder if I can self revive just as I die I put one donw lol

#

or the game just ends if you are the last person

analog salmon
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you can revive yourself with it

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but not sure if your last alive

serene furnace
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But you would have to deploy it before dying

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9 out of 10 times that ain't happening

analog salmon
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usually happens when you put it down to try to save yourself and die

serene furnace
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Not that you'll need it much

#

Infinite's Firefight is not particularly difficult as of yet

analog salmon
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i die a fair bit in legendary, maybe 2-3 times

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i think its overall not that hard because you can just backoff, let them cap the hill, and then ur team mates respawn

serene furnace
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And I'm still waiting for the actual boss fights to be added

#

And the Sentinels
Where are the Sentinels in Firefight?
Stop pretending that we didn't fight Sentinels for 1/3rd of the campaign, 343!

analog salmon
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honestly i think most my deaths are the phantom turret

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thing is rediculous lol, like homing plasma

serene furnace
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Enemies in vehicles are oddly missing too

analog salmon
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think they said the horde mode is still in the works

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which i'd guess will have more purpose built maps then just 1

coarse dagger
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They added a ton of stuff for Firefight over Season 5, I'm sure the rest will come in time

analog salmon
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i was pretty on the fence about the KOTH idea using MP maps but I think it's worked pretty well overall

full warren
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Sometimes its easy ans somestimes 3 phaton spawn on top fo each other lol

analog salmon
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Infinite just has pretty satisfying PVE combat for me and the mode works well enough

full warren
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those are the times that is incredibly hard

#

also I think they made the challenges easier now you can do them on FF

#

5 games and I have done them all lol

serene furnace
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I think Launch Site should be in FF
The map has that campaign design that would benefit defending a base

analog salmon
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it is in the FF KOTH playlists

#

do you mean in a conventional FF

serene furnace
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I mean sure

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Don't get why there's only a KOTH mode anyway

analog salmon
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its probably the best map for FFKOTH

#

my guess is they want to launch conventional/horde Firefight with Firefight maps

serene furnace
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They should take some ideas from Spartan Ops
Some maps had you defending a zone, defending civillians, pushing through a base or just straight up surviving

rugged quartz
#

well scientists, not just regular civilians

ruby knoll
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you mean EGGHEADS?

onyx latch
#

I would like some more narratively sensible Firefight maps, in a sense.

heavy edge
#

Does anyone know if the ray tracing feature on Xbox work on campaign or only multiplayer?

analog salmon
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MP only on all platforms

olive brook
#

does anyone have a picture of this weeks ultimate

analog salmon
olive brook
#

ty

coarse dagger
cold imp
#

sorry for the strange link, file garden is free

livid fable
crystal iron
crystal iron
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So I never actually played it but I noticed Firefight legendary is gone

worn iron
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Had one of the best Warthog drivers I've ever played with

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We didn't lose it any of the 5 hills and never died

zenith vigil
#

infinite runs really poorly for me can anyone help

tulip tusk
sullen kilnBOT
#

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zenith vigil
# tulip tusk how so

everything on low, sharpness at 20% yet still dips to 5-30 fps in combat and 60 (capped at 60) while out of combat

tulip tusk
# zenith vigil everything on low, sharpness at 20% yet still dips to 5-30 fps in combat and 60 ...

here is stuff you can try, i found via google. I copy pasted it all.

Step 1:

  • Click on Halo Infinite in your Steam Library > Right click it > click properties > click on DLC > Disable High Resolution Graphics for Campaign or Multiplayer or just both

  • This step gives you a boost of around 20-30 FPS but you don't really see the difference if you have it on

Step 2:

  • Open Halo Infinite > Settings > Video > set quality preset to Low > set resolution quality to highest (or lowest if you still have issues)

  • Please don't freak out but trust me you hardly see the difference

Step 3:

  • Settings > Set sharpening to highest
    Doesn't have a big impact on performance but just makes the details on your gun for example a bit better. You can turn it off if you want.

Step 4:

  • Settings > set minimal fps to 60 > set max fps to your monitors refresh rate (for example 144)

  • If you set the min FPS to 30 the game will look slightly better (Things like trees don't look so blurry) but you will have a significant performance loss

  • Worth noting that you want animation quality and simulation quality set to ultra. They have no performance impact but reduce things like desync and rubber banding.

coarse dagger
#

Can we do this in Community Support please?

#

That way we're not filling the discussion channels with this

#

That's what it's there for

prisma mason
#

aight why did they remove firefight legendary

lime robin
#

It's a rotational playlist (unfortunately)

misty vale
frosty condor
#

Oh I didn’t know you had the data for how populated the playlists were

agile cobalt
#

tbf the queue times on legendary were always

#

kinda high, so its pretty obv that not alot played it

tulip tusk
#

it was probably a nightmare with a phantom and 2 gunners flying in every 3 seconds id die in first round

grim sluice
#

Anyone having weird audio issues with the current season?
When in a match, firefights and sounds I'm not in the immediate vicinity off keep playing in areas there are no players.
Like, i'm at the ede of the match, can see someone throw a coil and kill someone, then hear it behind me off map ~10 seconds later.
It makes map awareness difficult.
On PC, Astro A50 headset.
PC sounds ok.
Menu/other sounds in Infinite are ok.
My player and people I engage in are normal.

Headset up to date, rebooted, removed and reconnected headset, uninstalled Astro software and re-installed.
I haven't re-installed the game yet, will probably try that tomorrow. But was curious if anyone else has had the issue. Searching online I can only find 'no sound' issues.

crystal iron
#

I noticed it was gone. Not sure how many people play it. Some said those who did, were like bots on marine difficulty (not their exact words). Basically it was a bunch of jimmywhimmy452 playing it. Not sure why they are playing FF on Legendary though. Just start on the basic one and move up

crystal iron
dusk thunder
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Tried legendary a few times the first day. Wasn’t too bad. Won each game but we did have to lose a few rounds to recoup. The exp gain from playing Legendary felt minimal

crystal iron
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I tried hero when it came out. Was a little on the easy side. Wasn't competitive enough.

bitter knot
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this might be a nuclear take but i like halo reach better than halo 3

crystal iron
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That's fine. Nothing wrong with that.

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What's with the fake ratings aka skill rating located in the team line up page? It says 1455 but these guys are no higher then gold players. Like what 343? Fake abs numbers LoL

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343 telling people this a 1455 lobby 😂. Nah, u disrespecting the diamonds out there as if they Mr Magoos who have never played this game. Nah 343. Chill with the fakeness

marble halo
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Welp BTB is unplayable.

idk what has happened lately but I ran into 1 full stack vs 12 randoms. And then ran into another full stack twice in a row.

and one game I ended up being in a game with a partial stack, and they were calling out weapons and enemies as if it was Ranked onyx lol. Unreal.

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ive ran into stacks before but never this frequently. Ended up just qutting the other match. Repairfield kept wasp alive, they controlled all the weapons, and teabagged every kill

sharp summit
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Is there a custom game in halo infinite for The Maw from CE

sharp summit
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Get a clan or a couple people to play with

low bloom
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well i treated myself before the sale ended the digital copy of halo mcc and halo 5 , might as well do it already got halo infinite on a digital copy

marble halo
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Just find 11 other strangers is quite the ask haha

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Maybe during the halo 2 and 3 days 🥲

crystal iron
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Easier to control a 4v4 stack then 12 stack vs a few duos and other random solo queue players

worn iron
worn iron
slow walrus
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just wasted a double xp on 3 "win matches" challenges by not winning a single time at all

crystal iron
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Anyone expecting reach to not be glassed in season 2 of the show? I feel like they gonna save it.

slow walrus
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I'm seriously about to finish a "complete 8 matches" challenge before winning once

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I hate how the matchmaking is expecting me to carry 3 cadet blue players with the 1 nameplate seemingly every game, this is not fun

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can't even cheese the challenge in firefight since they somehow lose there too

fair elm
low bloom
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Wonder why halo mcc and halo infinite on steam and yet not halo 5

coarse dagger
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Just the way things worked out unfortunately.
My take on it, is that due to MCC not launching the way it was intended to and 343 having to divert resourcing to fix it and relaunch it, the focus had to shift away from Halo 5 or it may have happened. Was probably a "one or the other scenario". By that time, work on Infinite was starting and most folk were shifting over. But all just guesses based on observation

low bloom
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Still wish they put it on steam feel bad for people have to buy a Xbox to play halo 5

coarse dagger
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You can play on PC using xcloud

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If you have Game Pass Ultimate

worn iron
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I gave my Xbox to my little cousin, and haven't been able to play 5 in years

fair elm
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Gamepass is a good investment if you can afford it, you can play from basically anywhere

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also if your computer has the Xbox app you could always remote play your xbox itself from anywhere

fair elm
worn iron
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I didn't realize xcloud was a thing until now lol

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Sadly my Xbox was wiped when I gave it to him

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Oh wow it actually works

coarse dagger
worn iron
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This is awesome! Thank you for telling me about this!

coarse dagger
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Nice, very welcome! :)

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There are some nice controller clips you can get for your phone for playing on the go. I'm using one I got at x019, but Amazon has some decent ones. Razer have a great one, if you want to spend a little more

worn iron
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I use Razer for my mouse/keyboard so I might have to look into that!

coarse dagger
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Kishi is the Razer one

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That's more of a controller itself that wraps around the phone, but you cna get standard clips that mount your phone ontoan Xbox controller

low bloom
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The only way i am playing halo 5 because i got it as a gift when it came out got it on cd but after seeing a sale that happen on Xbox that went from $40 to $5 and halo mcc from $60 to $10 i bought both so if i get the new Xbox system that is digital i won't take a lost because i hate to upgrade to game pass pay more money

edgy osprey
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For those of yall who played halo 2 on legendary how do you guys deal with gravemind?

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Its literally bs man the moment I spawn I die

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And the part where I go down the elevator to rescue the marines either one of two things happen the brute at the bottom don't notice or before i land at the bottom the brute turns around and kill me

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Do you guys agree gravemind is the hardest level in halo 2?

coarse dagger
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At the start of the level, as soon as you spawn in you need to be moving backwards or jump back.
That should get you out of fire just enough to jump away / return fire / get yourself up top

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If you're really stuck, there are some great walk through guides on Youtube

edgy osprey
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?

coarse dagger
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It's a hard-hitting level if you're not used to it, especially on Legendary

edgy osprey
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Recently went back to play halo

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And from I Remember playing all of halo games including infinite I can still probably halo 2 is the hardest out of all

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The amount of times I died to the jackal snipers smh

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And don't forget the flood can drive on quarantine zone all plain bs

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Halo 2 still imo Is the hardest out of all the halo games

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Idk if its just me but in my personal opinion halo 2 has the most difficult campaign out of all the halo games

sullen owl
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I think that's just you. Everyone else here says it's a cake walk. thinkingchief

edgy osprey
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But campaign wise its halo 3 has the best story in my opinion

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Today's kids will never get to experience how big halo 3 back in 2007

sullen owl
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Halo: Fireteam Raven has the best campaign story. Hands down.

edgy osprey
sullen owl
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I've never played a Halo game in my life.

edgy osprey
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So you just played infinite?

sullen owl
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Not even. I'm only here for the free popcorn.

edgy osprey
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Idk but imo again I think 343 industries will never make halo like the way bungie did

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Like don't get me wrong the grapple hook in infinite is great but really bungie just feels more like halo

sullen owl
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No game will be made the way they were in the mid 00s. Business units and the groups they're whaling for aren't the same demographically.

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Well, indie games are made basically the same, but there's still a funk to it as time marches on.

edgy osprey
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Are people in this sub mostly new to halo from call of duty? Or are most of you guys are like me an og halo fan since the start? I feel like this is what differentiate modern halo from the classics if you guys realize a lot of halo infinite players play halo infinite like call of duty players

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Anyone who played the classics halo will tell you halo will never feel the same again from the originals

coarse dagger
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There is a very wide mix of players here, all ages, starting at different games

sullen owl
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There's not much of a good poll on who came from which games for this Discord. I started enjoying Halo with CE in 2001. No, it will never be the same because we've lived different lives since 15+ years ago.

edgy osprey
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I been fan of the call of duty and halo franchise since the start of the franchise and I played lots of modern warfare ghost cold war and I would always say halo is such more a better game than call of duty like the gameplay is so immersive and the enemies is always different from call of duty like you never know where they will come from

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And also halo was the franchise that made me learn the piano

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If you guys know the song never forget from halo 3

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It was never forget that made me learnt the piano till today

sullen owl
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My "time to learn the piano" song was Crocodile Rock.

edgy osprey
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That's why It saddened me to see when halo infinite was first released in 2020/2021 a lot of streamers don't have the knowledge of halo at all they just play it call of duty way and that was when I realized halo will never be like it used to

sullen owl
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Paying attention to streamers will just bum you out, don't bother.

edgy osprey
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And also halo is more strategic and requires more skill than call of duty as someone who played both since the early years

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In any call of duty games your death will be unfair but in halo its more skill and so much more planning

sullen owl
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I don't know about that one. They're different skill sets, but I wouldn't say either is more or less truly skilled than the other. I've been killed by quite a few stray bits of map clutter and vehicle bits in Halo out of nowhere, can't skill my way out of that happening unless I were to turtle in caves or something.

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There's a fair bit of randomness to each.

edgy osprey
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One thing about og players from the classics is we don't care about ranks and xp or progression like modern halo and other games in general back then in 2007 we mainly played multiplayer just for fun not caring to win or die just playing to have fun

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Nowadays it's rare to see people playing for fun nowadays it's mainly all sweat players

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I remember my whole class of 5th/6th grade played halo 3 without getting angry we were just there to explore the sandbox because if any og player remember from halo 2 to halo 3 there was such a huge shift there was deployable weapons like the machine gun plasma cannon and the missle pod and the flamethrower and for the first time in halo history in halo 3 there is throwable effects like power drain bubble shield gravity lift regenerator and the flare and in forge you can even deploy your own vehicles and items for free and also exploring new vehicles such as the hornet,anti wraith,prowler and chopper and the grenades too there were fire and spark grenades now in halo 3 compared to halo 2

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And all of back then multiplayer was played through xbox 360 live and most of us were there after school after class to go back home to turn on our xbox just to enjoy and have fun with nothing in mind unlike halo nowadays which is everyone is just there to rank up or to earn xp or who get the highest kills or to show off what rank you are so it's kinda sad to see the state of where halo has became

sullen owl
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Can say the same for almost all online gaming. A large part of the fun of Halo on xbox live back in those days for me was proximity voice chat with randoms and the shenanigans that would crop up with it.

After parties were added to the 360, that went away pretty quickly and gaming felt quite a bit lonelier and sterile outside of premade groups of friends. Almost everyone plays muted or in a premade team. A lot less interaction across the board unless you go to one of the few games that hits big where people do still communicate like that, such as BattleBit.

ashen atlas
sullen owl
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Different skills, not really more or less though. Definitely not quantifiable.

ashen atlas
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Having the same weapon as everyone else automatically makes it more skill dependent

slow walrus
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so by that logic quake is the least skillful shooter out there, right? postums

sullen owl
edgy osprey
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I think we can agree that halo is the most unique out of all of the multiplayer games as in from the start I am an og player of these franchises call of duty and halo and saying from personal experience halo does take more skill to master because of spawning locations like take call of duty for example most of your death isn't your fault because of where you spawn and in call of duty there is uav which let you know the enemy locations

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Which some might argue is unfair

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But in my personal opinion as someone who is a big fan of both franchises and play them for decades halo still Is a much harder and tough game to master

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Because of its unique gameplay and tools

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Like if you guys remember in the classic halo games the only advantage in multiplayer is the sniper rifle and the active camo which takes 10 minutes to regenerate once a player has taken it

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On call of duty once you hit a certain kill you get special skill like operative skill

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In the classics halo there is no such thing everything is by skill

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For example 4 people will spawn and there will have a op weapon like energy sword or gravity hammer

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And you have to fight to get it be it getting the active camo or the overcharge which is again placed away from the players like 10 meters away again makes it fair for everyone whereas call of duty you have the advantage of using skills like uav which isn't fair to others

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Which in my opinion having played both and a big fan of both since the first game of both franchises halo will always be a harder franchise to master

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The immersive is endless

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There is always room for improvement whereas in call of duty you can upgrade your armor and everything and the death in call of duty games 99 percent of the time are not your fault and in call of duty you can choose your own weapons which again gives another advantage to the start

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Whereas in halo when you die its kinda like you are noob

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Which is why halo is a much harder game to master

sullen owl
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Will say, what you've written is why Infinite feels sweaty. Too many people caring about having top tier skill for their twitch streams or youtube channel and having to prove that their game is better than your game. Take it easy, sit back and enjoy goofing around like back in the day. Cut the skill checks out of it and just take the game as it is.

This is the Halo I remember fondly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OObHcJqKZM Goofy nonsense and a community that encouraged it, not a sweaty skill fest.

edgy osprey
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And yah another part we can all agree on is

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Halo has one of the best soundtracks in gaming history

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Halo soundtrack is a straight banger

dreamy tiger
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has anyone played MCC on PC recently? ive been hearing about a lot of hackers on their recently and dont want to play if its not safe

olive brook
dreamy tiger
lusty wraith
olive brook
dreamy tiger
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well that’s me uninstalling MP until there’s a fix

olive brook
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It’s been fine for me on social matches atleast

olive brook
glacial tartan
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@dreamy tiger As long as you stay out of the ranked playlists its pretty rare to run into them. I think I'm pushing 30K games and have matched cheaters a handful of times (less than 30?), interesting enough almost always in ranked.

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The clip you are referring to is almost definitely becuase of the person they were targeting. Pretty common for the cheaters to go after MCCs streamers.

dreamy tiger
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i’ll see if i can find the clip for you see what you make of it

glacial tartan
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I already know what it was

olive brook
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Pretty sure i saw that clip earier today

glacial tartan
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It was from Tylenul's stream, I was there in chat when it happened 🙂

dreamy tiger
glacial tartan
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The particular group of cheaters doing that are known and they sell their services very openly, unfortunately.

olive brook
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Sad

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mcc’s population is already pretty low..

dreamy tiger
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i just really didn’t want to have to uninstall MP as it’s me only way of playing H3 multi

glacial tartan
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As I mentioned, you're fine as long as you stay out of pretty much Hardcore Doubles specifically.

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(and even then, they tend to target streamers specifically)

dreamy tiger
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okay shweet ty

glacial tartan
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There are what, 8000 peak players on MCC recently and very very very few of them are purchasing those cheats. So you'll be fine 🙂

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On a side note, I'm glad that tweet has become so popular

tulip tusk
# bitter knot this might be a nuclear take but i like halo reach better than halo 3

i appreciate Reach more for the customgamebrowser contributions it and creators have made, im still playing reach a lot. it's a fun game, even just the vehicles exploding is fun. If I play desert bus i enjoy driving a hog solo in dumb ways and dying bc the exploding is that entertaining & satisfying. rabidsmods maps are great fun too. Best version of SPEED HALO also!

I'm not thrilled with Infinite vehicles much at all (explosions are just awful which is weird bc Inf Forge has great FX objects) but i enjoy it's Forge, forge AI, and custom games a lot

tulip tusk
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can some1 remake Desert Bus Super CTF (Spongebob) map from Halo Reach on Infinite plz?

we just need WAY MORE vehicles in the game 😭

leaden cedar
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is halo 3 mcc really sweaty or am i just really bad?

sullen owl
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You're the best player and they all know your name so they're gunning for you.

glacial tartan
white birch
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The die hards. The iconoclastic

leaden cedar
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about what i figured

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which game does everyone gravitate to?

white birch
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Infinite

leaden cedar
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in mcc

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im assuming reach since it's the newest bungie game

white birch
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Reach or 4 actually

slim flint
livid epoch
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Does anyone know if the Repair Field stops reviving someone if the person who threw it dies?

crystal iron
celest heron
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finally got Escharum in ff and ran out of ammo halfway through so I was just trying to avoid him for the most part until I could find something. I'd hate to fight him on legendary cause even on normal he was tanking.

white birch
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He's beefy

tulip tusk
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what auto determines host decision when host leaves in MCC Reach cgb?
it seems like it's going to most recently joined for some reason but not sure

uneven bison
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drop wall helps a lot

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I had more trouble with Jega then him on legendary

covert bobcat
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Jega is probably the hardest bossfight in the campaign too just because the arena heavily favors him

uneven bison
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Jega is nuts because there’s no real way to counter him

covert bobcat
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But there is the fusion coil cheese tactic

covert bobcat
uneven bison
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You can lay on him with plasma when he shows himself but your pretty much dead if he does show himself

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Because he only reveals himself when he’s about to strike

covert bobcat
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Let’s just say it took a while

turbid terrace
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You know, I actually really like the way the challenges are currently set up. Every challenge can be done in firefight and every other game mode. Win Matches, Complete Matches, get EXP, etc. And having Kill X amount of PvP Spartans as the Weekly Ultimate, it all gives the challenge system as it's currently structured a lot more flexibility than it used to have. Being able to complete all of the challenges in just firefight (with the exception of the Kill X amount of PvP Spartans) is something I really enjoy.

ashen atlas
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If we minus the cheese tactics

covert bobcat
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Escarum is the hardest without cheess

ashen atlas
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The hammer phase was frustrating. To say the least

covert bobcat
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It was tough but at least there was a checkpoint after the phases

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plus after a few deaths I just went back and forth with the grapple

covert bobcat
ashen atlas
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Yeah. And after I realized how effective the upgraded thruster was against him it didn’t take long, but man bassus was just… something else. That guy could leap a mile

covert bobcat
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Bassusfight if 343 didn’t leave a skewer right where the cheese tactic is

uneven bison
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If you know where he spawns there’s a lot of fusion coils around the map you can gather

covert bobcat
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Same goes for Jega

uneven bison
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For most bosses really

covert bobcat
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Yeah but no one is doing that first playthrough

uneven bison
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No, obviously. It’s more fun to chip away at their health if you ask me

covert bobcat
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Easiest boss imo is adjutant resolution pt 1

uneven bison
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Some of the smaller hvt’s are easy too

covert bobcat
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I don’t count the hvts

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Except for maybe the chieftans

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More specifically the hammer one

uneven bison
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They’re honestly really fun, I always do them on play throughs. That’s one thing that infinites open world can do really well with, ie boss fights like the hvt’s

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Bring in a marine squad on a razorback, or just spam wasp missiles

covert bobcat
uneven bison
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It’s not even fair with that gun

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Could’ve Single handedly saved the infinity

covert bobcat
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Two spartan-iiis with arcane sentinel beams and striker sidekicks could have ended the war in 5 minutes

sharp summit
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I completed 8 ninjas today

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Very satisfying kills

summer herald
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i can’t stand multiplayer in halo infinite, call it a skill issue but every single match i play i’m getting stomped by someone acting as of they’re competing in a tournament for 10k… me n my friend are just trying to have fun but every time we play the game we lose

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every single player is spamming crouch and grenades and it’s so annoying to fight against

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the strafing speed is so fast it makes it almost impossible to track people especially combined with how weird controller aiming feels

sharp summit
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Copy the enemies strafe

summer herald
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i’ve tried to get used to it but i’m too slow 💀 i’m too used to aiming with my right stick as well

crystal iron
grave magnet
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It's impossible to play with computer players because they're so much faster

crystal iron
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I love infinite ♾️ but some of the gameplay just seems to feel better on pc

rich berry
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I can’t play a single match without being sweated on by little timmy thinking hes going pro

crystal iron
summer herald
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i’m on pc with controller and i feel like i have absolutely no aim assist now

grave magnet
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I honestly hate playing with keyboard and mouse players because they move so much faster

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No offense towards anyone

crystal iron
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I like the idea of cross play but I shouldn’t be matched up against pc players when I’m playing solo , maybe if I had a friend on pc in my lobby sure but it’s weird

rich berry
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the game would actually be fun if skill based matchmaking actually did what it was meant to

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and not put e sports players in my social game mode

summer herald
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i don’t even know if it is sbmm it might just be how people play the game these days

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apparently no one wants to hop on to have fun anymore

rich berry
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Probably bc the games free as well

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it’s opened the floodgates to the sweaty greasers

crystal iron
muted geyser
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Especially the MCC hackers going on right now it’s almost unplayable

rich berry
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They need to bring back classic aiming

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Controller aim just feels yuck

crystal iron
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Ye

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Also is it me but the BR feels weak as heck

summer herald
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i have 240fps yet it feels like 120

crystal iron
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I can’t wait for the next game

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I hope they keep the spartan design tho from infinite into the next one

summer herald
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i don’t want to give up on infinite but it’s really hard not to

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i’ve played around 6 matches today and not one of them has been enjoyable in the slightest, even when i drop 33 kills and 11 deaths i still just want to get off

steel plinth
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i have a little something to talk about

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im honestly extremely disturbed that 343 would change a customization of a game they didnt even make, i cant play as a female spartan and its really annoying

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halo reach

safe sorrel
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They give you the option to have a female voice bro 💀. Literally just got to spartan ID and the voice tab has a drop down menu that let's you choose the voice

steel plinth
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im not a bro and also im talking about the body type

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as a girl i want to look like a girl not a man with a female voice

coarse dagger
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From what I recall, the only thing that was changed was the label - everything else is exactly the same

steel plinth
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the body shape dosnt look as female as it used to

safe sorrel
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I'm pretty sure the armor would make a Spartans gender indistinguishable anyway. If we're going off of appearance alone

steel plinth
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have you even ever played classic reach the female armor and body shape looked way different then the male counterpart

safe sorrel
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The Spartans in reach are using completely different different armor models lmao

coarse dagger
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Halo: Reach and Halo 4 now have the ability to select body type and voice separately, and Halo: Reach’s customization menu now includes a Firefight Voice preview.
This was the change made back in Season 8 - the labels were updated and voice was split out to be separately customizable

safe sorrel
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Look at what happened when they made the female body pronounced I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen memes zooming in on Kat's rear end

coarse dagger
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Renders in the MCC menus might looks a little different than in-game due to how the menu is done using UE

safe sorrel
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Yeah plus we all saw what happened to Kat from reach aka the last time (I can remember) that they made the female spartan figure pronounced

coarse dagger
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I can't see anything that states that the actual model was changed, which isn't something they would touch unless there was some major bug. It's purely a label change and splitting out voice

safe sorrel
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Oh that's interesting

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Yeah I'm looking at the armor set for Kat in infinite and Yeah it's indistinguishable

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Quite honestly I've been enjoying the game a lot.

coarse dagger
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Oh, AMP left

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Oh well

safe sorrel
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Lmao they got mad after we where sptting facts

coarse dagger
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Didn't even get to see my last message, maybe they'll come back

safe sorrel
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The only complaint I have with the game is the fact that's its an absolute vram hog

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I found it using 20gb earlier in game 💀💀

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It peaked at 21gb of vram utilization

stiff nebula
#

I just want a Grifball and Rocket Race playlist in matchmaking right now 😦

safe sorrel
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Those would be fun lol

sullen owl
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If you're stuttering after maxing your VRAM, then there's a problem.

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If the game runs smooth, it's not an issue.

ruby knoll
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unused vram is wasted vram

round forge
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Have the data pads in Halo Reach always been there? I came across one for the first time today and had never heard about them.

agile cobalt
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can go back to other battle passes to beat them if u didnt already?

round forge
agile cobalt
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k

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i have season 1 at 21

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and season 2 at 3

misty vale
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Kingtom is not really correct. You have to have bought the pass to continue it. If you were doing it for free, you'll need to buy it.

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Your previous progress is not reset

agile cobalt
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alr

round forge
agile cobalt
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neither do i

misty vale
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Why seasons other than 1 pay for themselves

agile cobalt
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i just do the free tier ones, which still give some good stuff, im the player that finishes it in like 3 days

misty vale
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Spend $10 do 2, 4, 3, 5, 1

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You'll end up with $0 bc season 1 doesn't have credits

lime robin
agile cobalt
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is it possible to ninja someone in the new netcode

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because theres times where i have obviously smacked someone in the back and it doesnt do anything, like, at all

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i know new netcode and such, it feels really good, good job 343, but i miss getting 4 to 5 ninja games lol

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and the old netcode works, except i feel out of sync after experiencing the new netcode

sullen owl
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You know, if I see you in a match and you're on the enemy team, I'll let you try to ninja me and see if it pops up.

agile cobalt
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jesus the sidekick rips

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why is there a main weapon

young glen
agile cobalt
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should all be sidekick

lime robin
sullen owl
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No, no, I'm not good enough for that.

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I'm honestly promising a free kill. lmao

zenith vigil
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i fixed performance issues

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i set minimum fps and maximum to 60

agile cobalt
analog salmon
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sidekick no fun

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call me old school but i just like that slower methodical fire rate

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im in heaven with the bandit honestly, im probably the biggest fan of either variant of the weapon

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BR and Commando are cool though

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i'll swap my sidekick for a bandit always, not because i think i'll get more kills, just cause i'll enjoy the kills i get much more

celest heron
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of course I run into a party of CE sweats when I decide to play CE.

tulip tusk
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when i play ce i find a btb server on cgb and just mess around with lower weapons like plasma and assault rifle and needler. vehicles are fun too

agile cobalt
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ok new grind strat for me
quick play
because sbmm is so bad, it puts u with bad teammates, meaning u get moar kills

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and they soak most of the damage

misty vale
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Yeah you take Ls as The Terminator, it owns

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Goin 30:3 and taking a phat L is just as much career rank, i say

agile cobalt
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who made the stupid hill in the center of the map with 2 square feet on chasm

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its honestly stupid, you get sniped 24/7 and with your teammates on 4v4, they dont have the brain capacity to know what a sniper is

crystal iron
agile cobalt
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yea i mean ok if you had competent teammates, maybe its fine, 1 person on hill 3 covering ground

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but no because i have 1 teammate a game who goes 0 to 14 to 20.

crystal iron
agile cobalt
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lol

crystal iron
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😂

onyx latch
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Pretty sure not understanding the point of an objective you're meant to fight over, and for that objective to be challenging to fight over, says more about you than the dev.

crystal iron
onyx latch
crystal iron
onyx latch
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Lmaoooooooooooooo

misty vale
uneven bison
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We still do rank checks in halo?

crystal iron
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🤔🤦

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If you want me to engage in a discussion regarding any part of the game, from a competitive standpoint... You better have qualifications otherwise I'm just not going to waste my time

misty vale
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Ok go outside ttyl

uneven bison
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If this were a actual serious shooter that having a high rank in was impressive, then maybe we’d take your advice

crystal iron
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Either be a high-ranking player in this game, or dev who has created the game. Otherwise to me it's waste of time to discuss anything with that person

uneven bison
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Self created echo chamber

crystal iron
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It has nothing to do with being impressive, and everything to do with actually understanding the game. You could under stand the game at a very high level and yet still be mediocre

misty vale
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Great. Im gonna block you, and enjoy people itc angrily engaging you. Cya

crystal iron
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Just look at many different coaches who coach the game

uneven bison
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No.

misty vale
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It's like a one sided phone call where every random recipient is saying 'ok sorry but go outside'

uneven bison
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Us halo players are in a caste system, didn’t you know?

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Only the worthy may speak

glacial tartan
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I think there is some merit to the idea that opinions can be weighted based on experience. But that doesn’t mean you ignore the lower end.

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It also doesn’t mean that just because someone is more experienced that they are always right.

crystal iron
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You don't need to be more experienced than me, just have enough

glacial tartan
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Did you already state your experience? (May have missed it in the back and forth)

crystal iron
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Close to 8000 games played

Dozens of hours of vod review

Peak 1766/1733 season 3

You don't have to have this experience for me to listen and discuss

ashen atlas
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Not that I think diamond is impressive, but I think it does a pretty good job it what it has set up across all modes

crystal iron
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But if you're going to come in here and then knock me, I'm going to do a rank check to at least find out you have a clue on what you're talking about. Because if you're in here playing quick play 3 to 4 times a week, you definitely don't know what you're talking about 90% of the time.

glacial tartan
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Ah, I don’t play infinite so I’ll leave that for greater minds.

ashen atlas
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Only about 2,500 games in infinite but 10k in h5

crystal iron
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Plat*

onyx latch
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I don't think rank is neccessary to understand the simple concept of 'they have a point here explicitly because it's hard to hold, it's the entire point of the mode'

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But hey I guess I needed a rank to converse with funnymcsillyname