halo-discussion

[shell mulch]

Yes, it's awesome.

[glacial tartan]

The answer is no. Reporting via waypoint should go a long way though.

[tulip tusk]

i played it once its pretty awesome

[celest patio]

Someone just tried to tell me halo 4-infinite have better sound track than the Bungie games

[coarse dagger]

Nothing wrong with that, if that's what they prefer

[onyx latch]

IMO, they're right.

Even though a pretty damn big chunk of Infinite's music is new renditions of Halo CE-3 tracks.

[crystal iron]

Well, that’s their opinion and there’s nothing wrong with that

[analog salmon]

not saying 4 lacking any good pieces but its the one game i have to mute or lower the music to not get a headache

dont know the names of the tracks that i cant stand but havent had that problem with any in the other games

[fossil dragon]

someone can help me with razorback achievement?

[solemn needle]

Depends who you’re playing. An experienced player will challenge 8/10 times while one shot. Either they know they’re gonna be suppressed by spawns and rather take on one guy rather than 3 off spawners. Or he just feels like he can win the gunfight. Might throw in jiggle peaking or something. Idk, it’s jus become common to me from experience and watching other players through the years 😂

[reef ginkgo]

hey halo fans! Anyone coming to dragon con in Atlanta next week?

[analog salmon]

An experienced player will challenge 8/10 times while one shot.
wot

[crystal iron]

What

[fallen flame]

i miss some of the music in infinite tbh most of its all gone for me

[analog salmon]

unless you're playing against bots i dont think ur challenging one shot if you can play life lol

[fallen flame]

hear the same old 3 songs

[drowsy storm]

What's the general opinion on the Banished?
Whenever I see people relentlessly hating on post-Bungie Halo as the internet does
I can't help but notice that the Banished are very rarely brought up

[tulip tusk]

i like their wraiths in hw2

[crystal iron]

They are cool. I hope that they will stick around in games for some time

[cinder pier]

what are yalls favorite version of the elites in the series? i like the anatomy of the infinite elites, but reach is my favorite for their armor and gameplay

i just prefer the sleeker look of the covenant armor on the elites over the more angular look of the banished

[runic slate]

A genuinely cool and interesting faction in HW2, but in Infinite they get sidelined hard for the Harbinger and Endless.

[serene bolt]

Is it just me or is the new Light Reading bundle a Starfield reference?

[drowsy storm]

Aren't the Endless literally just Drones

[crystal iron]

What replaced dredge 24/7? I can't the check the game ATM and am curious

[serene bolt]

Scarr Heavies 24/7

[crystal iron]

Ty

[dawn zodiac]

Reeeeeally now? Hm!

[crystal iron]

Also cool that scarr has heavies now

[dawn zodiac]

Yeah, I didn’t think that was ever coming tbh

[crystal iron]

Cuz it was so claustrophobic for a btb map

Also is btb social back?

Cuz it wasn't there last week

[serene bolt]

Doesn’t look like it

[crystal iron]

Dang

[serene bolt]

Only 12 v 12s are Scarr and standard BtB

[crystal iron]

Then maybe scarr replaced it for the week

[drowsy storm]

I wonder if the Banished have any Spartans in their ranks
I have heard they accept humans but dk much regarding the details on that

[crystal iron]

....

[dawn zodiac]

We don’t know that for sure, there are humans, but Spartans need to be another breed to do something like that

[crystal iron]

Where did you hear that???

[dawn zodiac]

Minor spoiler tag for rubicon and infinite: ||The closest candidate would be griffin after all the torture he had endured through rubicon and infinite||

But, as far as we know, it’s a MAYBE

[drowsy storm]

This very server

[runic slate]

Last I checked we have basically no information on them

[crystal iron]

I think it's the skimmers

That are similar to the endless

[drowsy storm]

The flying things that the Harbinger works with

[dawn zodiac]

After the torture, it’s a possibility they can convert a Spartan

But as far as we are aware the answer is no

[serene bolt]

Ooof estimated wait for Scarr heavies is almost 4 minutes

[dawn zodiac]

In a bit if you want to team up I’d be happy to play some that’s not solo

It sounds like a hellhole solo :c

[cinder pier]

skimmers are drones but a lot less interesting to fight, also they basically act like ground enemies but their hitbox is midair

really not a fan of them at all

[dawn zodiac]

I honestly like fighting the skimmers, I feel like they are smaller drones but what they do is interesting l

ESPECIALLY the vehicles tampering that’s just lovely

[drowsy storm]

Also am I the only one who likes the Prometheans
No comment on their lore significance but on the gameplay side I feel like they add a ton to the sandbox

[dawn zodiac]

I, really don’t like halo 4’s Prometheans

I think the gameplay is monotonous and aggravating, and the one thing that I did enjoy was the crossover from drone to grunt as they could crawl on walls and things

Halo five just felt covenant 3.0, with a little better for knights being minibosses

[drowsy storm]

I honestly thought the whole mechanic in 4 where the Knights could spawn the flying ones who could in-turn revive the Knights was really cool

[serene bolt]

Having just played a round of Scarr…
Good god the MP of infinite is nothing but a sweat fest now.

People playing a social gamemode like it’s the HCS grand final

[drowsy storm]

Every shooter ever

[dawn zodiac]

Okay, I wontttt make too much of a fuss, but I liked the more dynamic feel of older halo’s, where I CHOOSE who I can prioritize, instead of having to focus on the flyers when they pop up

They do so much, catch grenades, respawn, heal, shield, it’s a lot to handle for one enemy type

[drowsy storm]

Even the ones specifically built for casual non-serious play like Splatoon and TF2 have plenty of those no-lifes who play like their life depends on getting a good K/D ratio and a high rank

[dawn zodiac]

It could’ve been more interesting for knights to have the ability to shield the crawlers from incoming fire instead of the watchers, and the crawlers could catch grenades like how they catch Spartan hands

But since the watcher is the all new utility knife, it forced the way into the game to be Watchers, knights, crawlers, beam towers

And that’s not fun to play through when it’s as repetitive as halo four’s gameplay

[drowsy storm]

I mean I found they did a good job of making it clear who you should shoot at first in the older games
If you've got a squad of 8 Grunts, 4 Skirmishers and a Brute Chieftain
I feel like we can agree who the baddie you need to take down the fastest is

[dawn zodiac]

Skirmishers are ranged targets, them first, clean the grunts so they can’t toss the chieftain and leave the toughest enemy alone to fend for himself

Or, go for the chieftain and take cover from the skirmishers, clean the grunts and then fight at range

Two options, same situation

[drowsy storm]

A
Yeah, I would've rushed the Chieftain and used whatever weapon he has to mop up everything else

[dawn zodiac]

Which is fine and your choice to play the game, but in halo four you’re pretty much restricted to range fight after range fight, you know what I mean!

In halo infinite you can approach anything how you want, but in halo reach for example in the sniper missions you can/should fight at range, but you don’t have to

Halo four just feels like 3D duck hunt

“Oh, there’s a head”

[drowsy storm]

Makes sense

[dawn zodiac]

^^

[dawn zodiac]

Well they are coming back up soon, they gotta get ready!!

[serene bolt]

Yeah there’s a reason I don’t like HCS

[dawn zodiac]

I think it’s entertaining! But do explain!

[serene bolt]

Halo was never a competitive game.
Halo 3 was THE social shooter when it released.
The fact that HCS was created to turn halo into a competitive shooter is the root of everything that has been wrong with the franchise since halo 4/ 5

[dawn zodiac]

Ahh, interesting, do you also take note of halo reach’s competitive scene as part of the problem for HCS?

Or is it only 4- infinite?

[grim citrus]

Which halo game do you think had the best gameplay?

[serene bolt]

I would count the reach competitive scene as the beginning of the downturn.
But at the time it had zero influence on halo reach on release so it was less impactful to everyone else

[dawn zodiac]

That’s a bit of an unfair question on my part, I never grew up with the games and lived off the books instead, when I was first introduced to halo it was through my brother playing halo reach, I unfortunately never got to play until I was out of the house hold I was in

I will always be biased towards halo reach for literally everything, however I think the dynamics of all the games have some core of gameplay that I enjoyed

I think I know where you are coming from, so correct me if I’m mistaken in this part

[serene bolt]

I don’t have a problem with people playing games competitively in their own circles.
My problem is when the games core changes to suit the minority that play competitively and figuratively gives the main social player base the finger because the competitive crowd have more money

[dawn zodiac]

You miss the days when halo 3 was about having fun instead of the score board mattering to you, am I wrong?

[grim citrus]

Did halo core gameplay change? If so? When

[dawn zodiac]

You miss it when tryhard and clans were few and minority

[serene bolt]

I miss halo being about having fun.
And not who has the biggest numbers

[dawn zodiac]

I see I see!

[serene bolt]

Easiest example is when the game switched from 8v8 to 4v4 as the main focus of multiplayer

[dawn zodiac]

Halo five was the biggest

[grim citrus]

Can you describe to me what halo’s core gameplay is?

[grim citrus]

8v8 was always present in all halo games

In fact, we moved to 12v12

[serene bolt]

Being present and being the focus is not the same thing

[grim citrus]

8v8 was never the focus

Halo at its core is an arena style game

[serene bolt]

Look at the ratio of 4v4 to anything else in infinite

No it isn’t

[grim citrus]

Yes it is

[serene bolt]

Halo 1, 2, 3 and reach where all map based

Arena only began with 5

[grim citrus]

I’m sorry… what?

[serene bolt]

Blood gulch, Valhalla, Zanzibar

None of these are arenas

[grim citrus]

How many BTB maps were in CE?

[rugged quartz]

Those are just BTB maps?

[crystal iron]

Yes, there always were 8v8 maps in halo but it was never a focus. Halo was always a arena shooter first

[dawn zodiac]

I don’t really have a solution to the problem of “fun halo” because everyone interprets it differently, and I think it’s a bit of an unfair problem to point at competitive and say “that’s it” when people play in so many different ways

[serene bolt]

Going off current BtB standards there were 3

[hollow bobcat]

I never really understood the reasoning for having giant maps in Halo CE. The game didn't have online and I'm pretty sure the maximum amount of players was eight via lan cable (unless I'm mistaken). Even if It was more than that, how often would you have multiple people bringing their Xbox outside of tournament settings?

[dawn zodiac]

I love playing as a sweaty player, and winning can be fun, as well as goofing info and having that kind of fun with friends

But excluding one factor for another is never a good thing ANYWAY

[hollow bobcat]

Also, I notice the abundance of furries.

[grim citrus]

So if BTB maps were the minority, how would that be the focus?

[dawn zodiac]

Off topic and irrelevant lol

We are arguing ⭐

[serene bolt]

2 out of 8 were arenas.
Also not the focus

[grim citrus]

What were the 2?

I can name more than 2.

[serene bolt]

Hang ‘em high and Chiron

[hollow bobcat]

Needler go boom. 💥

[grim citrus]

…

[dawn zodiac]

acTuaLly it combines

[hollow bobcat]

🤓

[dawn zodiac]

Lmfaoo, but no no in all serious I can hardly give anything to this convo because I never played the older games like this

[grim citrus]

Beaver creek, Longest, Wizard, Damnnation

[hollow bobcat]

I played the campaign when it released in 2001. Halo 2 is when I really got obsessed because the multiplayer was so good.

[grim citrus]

Shall I continue?

[hollow bobcat]

I want Beaver Creek back.

In Halo Infinite

[drowsy storm]

K still playing Ultimate Firefight Sandtrap
I'm honestly just amazed they managed to cram the entire Halo mythos into one map

[dawn zodiac]

I never played any multiplayer other then my first in halo five, and when I could play reach in MCC I went to it for its multiplayer

Halo infinite is technically my first halo experience when it came out

[hollow bobcat]

Geez, you're young

I think

[dawn zodiac]

Eh, no, I just couldn’t play it because “it was a boys game”

And now I play halo when I want lolololol

[grim citrus]

I’m still trying to figure out how halo focus has been 8v8 when majority of the maps released were built around 4v4.

[hollow bobcat]

Big team battles became more popular with Halo 3 if I had to guess. I remember getting into those more often with that release.

[drowsy storm]

Given I haven't played 5 cuz it's not on PC I can't tell how much of this is original
Are Ghosts and Hunters with weapons similar to Needlers actually a thing

[grim citrus]

That’s like saying pizza is the focus at McDonald’s

[dawn zodiac]

I got up to 101 in halo five

[grim citrus]

Second last rank for me.

Halo 5 is top 2 best halos ever made

[dawn zodiac]

MMMMM

Story or multiplayer

[grim citrus]

Both

[hollow bobcat]

The majority of people are of the male audience, but anybody can play no matter what. Also, I just realized why you had two C's in your name. Lol

[serene bolt]

XD

[dawn zodiac]

No, just

HAHAHAHAHA NO

[grim citrus]

Explain which one is better and why

[serene bolt]

Halos 5s multiplayer sucked

That’s why half the player base was in war zone

[dawn zodiac]

I actually liked halo fives multiplayer feel, but I see where people are coming from for how they wanted to play in the original games

I personally like the marketing of halo five, but the story we got is vomit inducing

[grim citrus]

I’m still waiting on your explanation on how Btb was halos focus with 3-4 Btb maps on ce

[dawn zodiac]

You are on crack if you think that halo five has a good story

Let ALONE top two

[grim citrus]

What made it a bad story

[crystal iron]

Half of the playerbase was in warzone because you could get xp and req point there faster… when people think that game sucks, they usually don’t play it

[dawn zodiac]

Ohhhh I don’t know

How about the poor ideas and concepts that they tried to implement?

[grim citrus]

Like what

[dawn zodiac]

How about cortana coming back from the dead tk become a tyrant

[grim citrus]

Cortana never died

[drowsy storm]

Overwatch still has a sizable playerbase

[serene bolt]

The max players you could have on CE was 8
Funny that the moment online became a possibility they immediately upped it to 16

[dawn zodiac]

Yes she did, the cortana we see on the games is a rampant part of her

[crystal iron]

These people must like this game then

[grim citrus]

No it wasn’t… 16 was

[dawn zodiac]

The original is gone, the splinters are not

[grim citrus]

If cortana made copies of her, how did she die

She was never resurrected

[dawn zodiac]

I’m going to stop driving so I can talk this out, give me 10 minutes to get home and I’ll be back with you on why it’s the worst story

[grim citrus]

Lol I would love to hear this

[dawn zodiac]

Nono, I would love to hear this, really, halo five? So intriguing

[grim citrus]

Yes.

[lime robin]

Eyes on the road!

[serene bolt]

5 has the worst story because it has middle child syndrome

[grim citrus]

Still waiting on your argument

[drowsy storm]

I read a synopsis and it was at least an
Interesting story
I can always appreciate when they try to do something new

[serene bolt]

4 was the beginning and 6 would have been the end

[hollow bobcat]

Unpopular opinion, but at least it had a better story than infinite.

[dawn zodiac]

WHOOaa no

[serene bolt]

So it inherently has no decent plot points

[dawn zodiac]

I will not STAND for this slander

[grim citrus]

It did

[hollow bobcat]

Halo 5 had a better ending. It's a shame that the rest of the story was squandered because of infinite.

[magic night]

I'm gonna say my unpopular opinion is Halo 3 had the worst story

[grim citrus]

Exactly

[grim citrus]

Absolutely

[hollow bobcat]

Am I saying Halo 5 was the best? Hardly. However, it did have structure to it, such as familiar characters and a more compelling narrative.

[grim citrus]

Rushed plot and demoted Arby to be a sidekick

[dawn zodiac]

This cannot be real, am I dreaming

[drowsy storm]

I liked the ideas in Infinite personally
Definitely felt for the pilot guy, he was just a man in over his head
He wanted to go home, see his family

[grim citrus]

Remember that you didn’t grow up on halos

[hollow bobcat]

We have different opinions, but I'm not a crazy person that will judge you to the depths of hell for it.

[serene bolt]

No that’s the other guy

[hollow bobcat]

If anybody had different opinions that we disagree on with Halo, the best solution is to have a fight in VR chat.

We get boxing gloves and we have to dress up as Halo characters.

[grim citrus]

I’m all for people saying they don’t prefer 5, but to say it was bad is weird to me

[hollow bobcat]

I would have to say that my favorite campaign in the entire series was Halo 2. I really loved the perspectives of playing as the chief and the arbiter.

[grim citrus]

Especially when their argument does line up with what’s true

[hollow bobcat]

Also, a little off topic, but damn you for making me hungry for burgers.

[dawn zodiac]

Almost home, I’m going to write some points out to make and rant about each point, so I’m sorry if I take an hour to respond @grim citrus

[ruby knoll]

not to mention abysmal writing

[drowsy storm]

See I wasn't kidding about how praising Halo 5 is an easy way to get publicly executed

[serene bolt]

2 > Reach > ODST > 1 > 3 > Infinite > 4 > 5

[ruby knoll]

at least it felt more playtested than halo 2

@onyx latch get a load of this

also btb was only ever a part of the whole mp experience

[drowsy storm]

Halo 2 had a lotta ideas that I'm a little sad got left behind
Flood driving vehicles didn't come back til that Firefight update a while back
Haven't heard from the Shadow since 2's launch
Maybe the Flood/Sentinel spam in 3 would've been more engaging had they kept Enforcers

[ruby knoll]

arena (4v4) was a large part, and inexplicably to me, doubles

[grim citrus]

If you’d like, we could move this discussion to my server to avoid any outside interference

[ruby knoll]

i will never get the appeal of doubles beyond being due to a 4 controller hardware limitation

[grim citrus]

To say that infinite is better than 4 and 5 shows so much.

[magic night]

The appeal of doubles seems pretty obvious. You have one friend you want to play with and be on even footing with your opponents. No random teammates to worry about.

[serene bolt]

The fact that you’re willing to defend 5 tells me all I need to know

[hollow bobcat]

I'm going to write a five page essay about why Halo 5 was awesome. 😂

[grim citrus]

Who’s defending halo 5? Should I agree with comments about it that are clearly false?

Like cortana dying?

[ruby knoll]

the fact that reach is so high on your list tells me everything i need to know

[dawn zodiac]

Well I don’t really mind it, this is a halo discussion channel afterall!

[hollow bobcat]

The only defense for Halo 5 was that it was better than Infinite's campaign. It's not the best game, but it's compelling for the sake of the ending. The multiplayer was decent, but I really loved the forge community.

[dawn zodiac]

And besides if others want to know my thoughts I think it makes things more interesting

[ruby knoll]

also i'll never get the cOmPeTiTiVe boogeyman considering how much work went into 5 and Infinite's forge

[grim citrus]

To this day has the best causal community. I was hoping a lot of the ideas from 4 like ricochet, modern oddball, extractions was moved to 5

There’s not a single halo game that does super fiesta better than 5

[ruby knoll]

the idea that PvP is somehow not supposed to be competitive is also bizarre

[hollow bobcat]

People want the casual experience, which means weaker opponents. It's like that for a lot of games.

If you put effort, people complain because they didn't win.

[ruby knoll]

i mean i get that's what they mean but they contort themselves into pretzels to claim otherwise

[hollow bobcat]

They just don't want to admit that the goal is to get weaker players to make them feel good about themselves. Trust me, I've been around the block for a long time. That's all people talk about, especially with the SBMM rant every week on YouTube.

[ruby knoll]

certainly the implementation can be better but sbmm isn't a bad thing.

[grim citrus]

People tend to not acknowledge that the games mechanics never really change in terms of being more competitive, the matchmaking system became more accurate on matching people with similar skill level

[dawn zodiac]

I have some points ready, I’m going to make the argument and cases for them, and then I’ll be back with you!!

[grim citrus]

I’m ready.

[dawn zodiac]

Also, I want to clarify I have no hatred forwards to anyone that disagrees or doesn’t enjoy the same concepts and things that I do

I think this is all fun, and it’s passionate and worthy of discussion going forward

[hollow bobcat]

Not just that, but the introduction of crossplay was a big factor that nobody thinks about. Population ultimately decides how accurate the algorithm can be.

[hollow bobcat]

VR chat boxing is still open for disagreements.

[grim citrus]

Basically

[drowsy storm]

OK
Ultimate Firefight Sandtrap just got extra cool
We got an actual boss fight
Against the Gravemind

[grim citrus]

The only time i really use crossplay in halo is if I’m playing halo with my friends on pc

[runic slate]

Yea Halo 5 actually had diverse locations in its campaign.

Halo Infinite on the other hand is a complete mess because............................................Anders anyone?

[heavy edge]

Is halo Infinite just the forge map salvation across all game modes it’s my most played map for some reason and it’s driving me insane

Never liked the original or the reach version

[grim citrus]

Swords of sangheli and Genesis >

Nothing beats scaling a guardian

[heavy edge]

I’m starting to miss the veto system

[supple moat]

343 can you kindly stop over-weighting Dredge as a random map in Quick Play… enough is enough, we get it, you are proud of your new map but please enough is enough…thank you…

[grim citrus]

So the same 3 maps constantly being played over and over?

No thanks

[heavy edge]

I’m already witnessing that with the current system so yeah veto is better

Even voting is better which I’m still not a huge fan of it

[hollow bobcat]

Map selections are chosen, people veto, the next map chosen isn't popular, people back out, repeat.

[slim flint]

and that’s why kong slayer is somehow the only FFA gamemode I can get

[crystal iron]

whats up with infinite and just being corner camping hell? who just plays halo just to camp with a energy sword or hammer?

[grave ether]

Those that continue to run into their corner camp and die keep encouraging them

[crystal iron]

kinda hard when the entire maps are made in such a way where going through them means advancing the game

[grave ether]

Hard, but not impossible. There's a strategy to it

[crystal iron]

examples?

[grave ether]

Don't rush corners that you've died at before. If you know where they are camping then use grenades to either hit them or flush them out. Find alternative paths to go around them. Crouch so you don't show up on radar alerting them to know exactly when you are going to be in front of them

[crystal iron]

have you considered the fact maybe the entire team is camping the chokes?

also crouching??? bruh

[young glen]

Need to hit corner grenades with a team mate.

[crystal iron]

dropwalls?

[slim flint]

whenever I turn a corner I’m practically spinning a wheel to see whether I

A. Actually get to live

B. Get killed by a sword/hammer

C. Find someone with a drop wall and immediately die

[crystal iron]

yea exactly right?

like turning the corner or moving in any way is like am i either gonna find someone with zero life skills drooling in a corner or am i gonna have a fair fight (rare)

[young glen]

No, throw grenades against a wall so it bounces towards the camping corner target.

[crystal iron]

a bit easier said than done tbh

[young glen]

Sure.

But if you got a team mate with you it'll be easier.

[crystal iron]

"just kill them" -force commander

[young glen]

If you don't want advice that's fine, rant away.

Infinite gives you tools to punish corner campers, that's all.

[crystal iron]

not really? haha i mean remember when the og shotgun was meant to punish campers and now theres hardly any tools to use against it?

kinda caters to mouth breathers but ok

[young glen]

The OG shotgun was meant to punish campers... ?

Most players just camped with it because its range was so short.

[grave ether]

Yeah, crouching. Alternatively moving slow. It's a valid strategy and works when you hear people rushing nearby. You know their location, they don't know yours. Meaning they don't know where you are or when you might pop in

[crystal iron]

i dont think you've played halo

[grave ether]

There is a point when camping a choke point isn't really camping anymore and is actually playing defense

[dim jewel]

Infinite's sandbox really needs something to counter the Energy Sword and Gravity Hammer too though and the Bulldog doesn't cut it

[crystal iron]

EXACTLY

thats what ive been saying

[dim jewel]

Which is why 343 should bring back the classic shotgun

[grave ether]

Think what you want. It's clear you mainly want to rant about dying to campers and not find ways to combat the reason you keep dying to campers. Have fun

[dim jewel]

Because the energy sword and gravity hammer are too OP

[magic night]

The Repulsor is an effective counter to those weapons

If you see that the enemy team picked up the sword or hammer, go pick up the repulsor so you can deny them from getting to close.

[dim jewel]

Hm..

Didn't think about that

That also depends on luck though

[magic night]

As much luck as finding a shotgun in the old games

[dim jewel]

Perhaps

[grave ether]

Also the thruster. Peak in, thrust out, punish their failed swing

[magic night]

The tools are there

[crystal iron]

less about campers more about how hilariously under optimized infinite is\

[ruby knoll]

big words if you don't think the original 0 range shotgun wasn't a camping tool

[tame crane]

How long should it be expected to receive Unicorn Of Fire from the Cyber Showdown Spotlight? I submitted my form last week on wednesday and have not yet seen it appear in game for me 😐

[grave ether]

It took me a little while to get mine. I think it was somewhere around 3/4 weeks? Mine was during the holidays though so not sure how that affected everything

[tame crane]

Ah

Hoping it shows up soon cuz i really wanna rock it 🙏

[old nebula]

It is, but I understand what you mean. That what the term “set up camp” means. To fortify a position

[grave ether]

Which is different than the term camping is meaning here

[low musk]

I think it is what? Seven weeks till Season 5?

[heavy edge]

FFA swords for me

[lusty wraith]

It isn’t really. Half the time it doesn’t work if they’re already lunging. Maybe if it wasn’t glitchy I’d agree…

[tame crane]

about 8 weeks

[neat cove]

hi so random question can zoom go on top of any other buttons? on both ce and 2

the zoom is practically useless in most cases so i wanna get it outta the way if possible

[drowsy storm]

Everyone always asks
Master Chief vs Arbiter
Master Chief vs Noble 6
But consider

Tartarus vs Atriox

[tepid latch]

Atriox by a Mile

i have no sources, but Artiox seems a lot more cunning and strategic

[drowsy storm]

Fair ye
Very rare traits among Brutes

I ask mainly cuz
They're both stupidly tanky Brutes with absolutely busted custom-made Gravity Hammers

At least I imagine Atriox has one
Suddenly realizing I was thinking of that other old guy from Infinite who supposedly trained him

[onyx latch]

Atriox uses a custom hammer that's reshaped to fit his fighting style more properly. The top of his Gravity Mace, Chainbreaker, is actually the symbol of the Banished.

Same basic idea as a weapon (Symbol of office, custom design)

[quartz hill]

Hey guys

im stuck in a syncing data

what do i do

[fathom lodge]

Do you understand how enemy detection works?

[quartz hill]

so you got no idea how to help g

[runic slate]

Ive always been of the opinion that both are equals.

[ivory glacier]

Dredge dredge dredge all night long. When they gonna slow it down with this map

[acoustic tiger]

Any1 play marathon

[edgy night]

I give my money on tartarus, he is very violent and all that but he still has a brain, when he knew that it would be in a dificult spot to defeat his uncle he sniped him with a carbine instead of going hand to hand, i bet
he would see the armor of atriox and he would snipe him, maybe after testing his force with some punches or some swings of the gravity Hammer, i would like to see a impact beteeen the 2 like atraction rays that both hammers have

[drowsy storm]

I mean Atriox is pretty smart for a Brute too

[rare panther]

So, I've recovered some more media from project Titan, but I'm having issues with the wayback machine loading pages now, so I got like 7 full res images and 10 low res images out of a total of around 50-ish images I need to still download

If anyone wants to help, I can send the archive.org link to the gallery, more manpower means faster loading times (and less roadblocks with error 429)

[left gull]

hello so uh I have a problem with the master chief collection

i just downloaded it and it says the games aren't installed even though the xbox app says otherwise

[rare panther]

Have you checked your console directly?

[left gull]

i'm on pc

can I send you the screenshots of what I see?

[rare panther]

Ah, I am of no use there then.

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[left gull]

oh

so apparently it was because my microsoft store and xbox account werent the same as the microsoft store one uses my dad's account

nvm still nothing

gave up

[glacial tartan]

The Microsoft store version has always been pretty rough around the edges. Steam is better from what I can tell.

[analog salmon]

pretty much. Even the console version has more issues then Steam from my experience

@left gull if you can launch the game there's a menu where you can actually install or uninstall DLC while in game

try reinstalling a game, Halo 3 MP or Campaign will be the smallest

lmk if you need help finding the menu in game and i'll boot up and check

actually CE multiplayer will probably be the smallest

[wanton edge]

hi guys can't seem to get past the loading screen on my halo infinite game been like this awhile now, so for my pc its an i7 6700k w/ a 1060, any ideas?

[grave ether]

Tried verifying/repairing files?

[wanton edge]

hm i think so, i could try re-downloading and trying to run the game and see what happens

i uninstalled cuz i was just so frustrated with it

[ebon lava]

which screen in particular

the one at the very time of boot with the white bar at the bottom?

[wanton edge]

yes

[ebon lava]

are you running the steam version?

[wanton edge]

yeah

[ebon lava]

yea that happens

normally it takes a while to load that screen on steam anyway

but it eventually loads, also this is just a one time thing

when you renew your gpu drivers or smth this tends to happen

[wanton edge]

it crashes on me multiple times

[ebon lava]

I've used the xbox app and steam versions of Infinite and this thing only seems to be on the steam version

[ebon lava]

crashing is just poor driver compatibility with Infinite

[wanton edge]

ah

[ebon lava]

happens, if it's too bothersome then revert back to old drivers

[wanton edge]

older gpu driver?

[ebon lava]

yea

[wanton edge]

i see

[ebon lava]

🙏 _ _

[wanton edge]

lets see what my driver is rn sec

[ebon lava]

Geforce released new drivers for Baldur's Gate 3, I haven't renewed yet and my game's fine atm

[wanton edge]

536.99

[ebon lava]

Still getting put into 300 ping lobbies against Footed Ghost in Swat so "fine" may be a stretch 😞

[wanton edge]

mm

[ebon lava]

idrk what version that is lol, you can check up on either the Geforce app or Nvidia's site (which is also where you can download older driver versions)

[wanton edge]

right yea

few versions back or something?

like should i try a 1 month ago driver?

[ebon lava]

they're categorized by date of release so just choose any one from where your game was working well

[wanton edge]

oh ok

well its been 2 seasons of this so

[ebon lava]

yikes

would still recommend switching to the xbox app version of Infinite, much less hassle overall dealing with stuff, but it may be a little cumbersome if you don't use that app much

I have PC gamepass so 50% of my installed games are from that app lol

[wanton edge]

lol

[ebon lava]

NFS Unbound for "basically free" goes hard

[wanton edge]

well if it doeesn't run this time i'll try to get it on the xbox app and see if i can make it work there

[ebon lava]

ight 🙏

[analog salmon]

keep in mind it will take a while because its compiling textures

if its crashing it might be worth clearing the shader cache in nvidia's software

[wanton edge]

hm ok

[analog salmon]

i think half the time when people switch from steam to MS Store or vice versa it only "fixes" the issue because they have seperate shader caches

[grave ether]

From what I could tell having both installed, everything is separate

[wanton edge]

where do i clear the shader cache?

[analog salmon]

search disk cleanup and then select this option and click clean up

[wanton edge]

gotcha

[analog salmon]

the way to fully clear all complied shaders for your GPU is a bit more complicated and frankly I would just switch to the MS Store version if the step above doesnt help

[wanton edge]

ok i'll see, redownloading rn

my game i mean

[analog salmon]

honestly you might just wanna switch to MS Store if youre redownloading anyway

it otherwise runs the same and you can still invite people via discord invites

[wanton edge]

ah, so to download or before, do i just switch the target it saves to?

[analog salmon]

if you wanna switch to the MS Store version just cancel the Steam download and find Infinite in the MS Store

[wanton edge]

ok

the ms store downloads it good i see

[devout kite]

Is it me or I hate when players are parasites that won’t help with the objective

[signal ivy]

it's just you

[ebon lava]

depends honestly, sometimes you have to work for slays before bumrushing objective or you'll get obliterated by the enemy team, but other times scrappy objective is what wins games

even top teams like OpTiC and FaZe struggle with stuff like this sometimes, either going full slayer mode or being too afraid to push

but if you really feel like someone on your team is just not willing to play ball, just ask them in chat lol

[devout kite]

Tired that and it’s annoying that the rest of the team is pulling their weight while one person isn’t

[dawn zodiac]

Tell them to hop on and backpack them too!

[dawn zodiac]

I hate players that play every game like slayer

[serene badger]

Hate is a strong word, but totally feel you. Like wtf? You know you are not playing slayer. Do you not know how to play a simply game of CTF? Or are you purposely being a butt and ignoring the style of gameplay? You could have chose a slayer game, but you chose to play something where CTF, Oddball, and Zones come up, and you refuse to play them. 😤

[serene badger]

And xbox players do not have a chat. Though, whatever y'all PC players type show up on our screen. We have voice, but most console players dont use it. I have one person who uses voices chat out of every BTB game.

It would be great if there was a way for us PC and Console players could fluidly communicate during matches, but what would that look like?

[grave ether]

Xbox does have chat

[celest heron]

not sure how that's parasitic behavior unless they're just stealing your kills.

finally finished the battle pass

[onyx latch]

Devil's advocacy, leaving most of the enemy roster X'd out is a good thing because it means more time unimpeded by opfor.

I don't mind people who go for kills over objectives provided they are actually killing well enough to justify it.

[ruby knoll]

yeah

but also they should be flexible enough to go for the objective if it's optimal for them to do so

[vernal swift]

Will there ever be a halo wars 3

[crystal iron]

Only 343 knows

[undone storm]

Is halo 2 legendary non laso glitchless possible?

Because i am at the sniper jackal alley

Outskirts level

Standard legendary run

[celest heron]

yes

for that, it's mainly about knowing their locations and being quick to shoot them.

[undone storm]

Alright thanks

[serene badger]

That i can agree with.

[serene badger]

Halo wars 3 would be fantastic, but at this point, it has been so long, I dont even know what the story would be about.
Cutter still fighting Banished remnants?

[onyx wasp]

❤️❤️

[celest heron]

ran into some fake high ranks, lol.

[wheat zenith]

Is it me or is the Exchange just the same items on a 8-10 week or so cycle? I’m not expecting anything new to MCC just yet, but there’s tons more items that have little to no cycle and I’m hoping to unlock the last 3 items I still have locked (excluding Law’s End as lord knows when that’ll make an appearance)

[celest heron]

yes, it's pretty stale nowadays

[tranquil scroll]

I haven't seen that much variety either, it's been the same things for a while

[full warren]

The match making is still as bad as ever... literally can't do anything when I am carryin 4/16 5/14 players...

[devout kite]

How’s everyone doing with their career ranks

[smoky wave]

Not paying too much attention tbh

[celest heron]

almost done with silver. not really worried about it.

[devout kite]

I’m basically a gold master sergeant

[quasi finch]

Chimera is the worst armor in halo infinite

[ruby lake]

i disagree

i like the armor core

also

dredge.

im startin to get tired of that same ol map, give us new ones

i mean the map's cool and all but maybe try forgin up another few new ones

[toxic parrot]

If we had gotten more armors through the fracture pass then yeah it would be cool. It's stupid how we only got one helmet and one set of shoulder pieces while the tenrai event gave us,what 2 helmets? 2 shoulders? Even got a chest piece as an ultimate reward

[ruby lake]

uhhh another problem

i think them event passes are like

shrinking or something like that

i expected to have some nonsense cat neon armor

but nope

"oops!! all plum coatings!"

i aint a vegan 😭

[signal ivy]

do only vegans eat plums?

have I been vegan my whole life??

[ruby lake]

or a dang ANIMAL

[toxic parrot]

It's probably because players got tired of the neon colors or,what they deem, "goofy cosmetics"

[ruby lake]

lame

i just wanna be a walking spotlight for all i care

idc what them puritists say

[white birch]

Disco ball coating and giant bell bottom armor

[toxic parrot]

Unfortunately players don't want that because "it's not halo" even though reach had goofy armor effects and halo 3 had the hayabusa set which clearly didn't belong in halo

Oh I forgot to mention the haunted helmet

[ruby lake]

is it realistic to have storm clouds and visible green stink clouds to appear on your body to have no negative effect?

including that burning helmet?

hauha-haha- h-

ha.

N O.

thats just straight up fantasy nonsense

[ruby lake]

the same folks who want the haunted helmet back

[toxic parrot]

Yep

[ruby lake]

dislike the goofy stuff in the game (halo infinite)

[toxic parrot]

Exactly. It's pretty hypocritical. It doesn't matter if something looks cool. If it doesn't belong in the game it shouldn't be there

[ruby lake]

i looked thru enough reddit posts and im sorry

i just dont think they deserve to play halo anymore

[toxic parrot]

I think the only exception might be the devs who got the flame helmet as a way of saying "yo,we made this" but the fact everyone has it in MCC,nah

[ruby lake]

toddlers and their pixels go hand and hand

[toxic parrot]

I'm still not gonna forget that $20 ice effect bundle

I was so hyped but as soon as I saw that price,nah

[ruby lake]

20 for some ice??

they think im stupid

[toxic parrot]

For real

[brisk coral]

dear god how is desync and melee trading still so consistent

[quasi finch]

I dont know it doesn’t fit in halo imo, it would be cool in any other game. Everyone uses it now and I never see any actual halo armor like mk vii or mk v anymore.

[ruby lake]

ok.

[toxic parrot]

At the end of the day,chimera is just a fracture core so if anyone does complain about it,they're likely being extra

[onyx latch]

You say that, yet Mark Vb EVA[C] exists. Curious.

:3

[grim citrus]

The “it’s not halo” phrase was the beginning of the downfall for halo games

[solemn needle]

Nah, people have been saying that since halo 2 with the BR

[hollow bobcat]

I'm bookmarking the hell out of some of the best maps I've seen on YouTube. I think I might eventually host a few custom games trying all of these maps out with different modes.

[solemn needle]

Back then, people didn't like the BR in mp play

[grim citrus]

Exactly

[hollow bobcat]

My only alterations to the rules for my customs would be 5 second spawn timers and possibly no radar (up for debate).

[solemn needle]

After Halo 2 was the downfall of halo?

[grim citrus]

Halo is stuck between “I want the halo games to be like the ones of old, and I want halo to evolve”

[grim citrus]

Yes. Do you remember the slander of halo 2 back in 04?

[hollow bobcat]

Halo is the game that most people would rather remain simple, but at the same time, I enjoy the improvements to the movement mechanics.

[grim citrus]

If that was the case, the games wouldn’t change with ever iteration

[solemn needle]

Buddy, halo 3 came after Halo 2, that's the peak of Halo right there

And no, I was born in 05 so

[hollow bobcat]

Down to the core, Halo is still essentially the same thing. Nowadays, it has evolved with more refined movement and certain other mechanics.

[grim citrus]

Right. And who still plays halo 3 anymore?

[solemn needle]

A ton of people, we still have tournaments for it and it's more active than any other halo besides infinite

[hollow bobcat]

Halo 3 was decent. In my opinion, Halo 2 will always be my favorite nostalgic game.

[solemn needle]

Most played game on MCC

[grim citrus]

People are not playing halo 3 in record numbers

You’re going to get the small minority

[solemn needle]

More people play halo 3 than any other game on MCC

[solemn needle]

Halo 3 is the best but Reach is my fav

[grim citrus]

Which isn’t a lot of people

[solemn needle]

It's still a major chunk of the Halo community, which goes to prove that people do indeed still play that game. It's more people than you think

[hollow bobcat]

Speaking of population, I'm surprised to say that the population for infinite is growing again. Although it took nearly 2 years, it's good to see.

[grim citrus]

Halo 3 was on top for maybe 3-4 years, and then dropped. There are games that are still relevant 5+ years later

With a big fanbase

If the halo 3 model was so great, devs would’ve continued the trend with the next iterations

[solemn needle]

Halo isn't mainstream anymore dude. Not to be rude, but with your logic, you can also say that nobody plays infinite either?

[grim citrus]

To say halo isn’t mainstream, like there wasn’t a huge buzz for infinite years ago.

When a halo game gets released, a lot of people listen

[solemn needle]

Yea but "nobody" plays the game. 99% of the people who played, don't play anymore

There's even days where h3 will grab more people than infinite does, that's how low it's gotten

[grim citrus]

It has gotten low because of the fans

[solemn needle]

Now with the release of season 4 and all of these famous streamers giving attention to the game, the population has indded gone up

[grim citrus]

Not because of the games itself

[solemn needle]

Yea that's 343's fault 😂

[grim citrus]

False

That’s fans that say halo should stay the same, but evolve

Which itself is a contradiction

[solemn needle]

Most people who stop playing infinite is either because 1. Lack of content and can't keep them entertained 2. The game is buggy and has gotten no sort of attention on the server side 3. It's gotten boring due to both causes

[grim citrus]

Halo 3 had one of the worst netcodes and people still played it

[solemn needle]

Now if 343 brought back customization and fun playlists (which they have been doing) they'll see a population increase. And this is all happening right now. 343 implements squad battle and other playlists and it had a population rise

[solemn needle]

Back then people didn't have anything better. No one had fiber or frames above 30. It was all normal to them. Halo 2 was even worse beforehand and halo 3 was a step up

I needa shower brb

[grim citrus]

It’s great that you mentioned that. So halo 3 is playing just fine with little to no netcode issues. Why hasn’t the population grow to decent numbers? Why isn’t it in the top 10 most played?

We seen legacy games that received updates that has gotten a resurgence in its popularity; why not H3?

[solemn needle]

No I was talking about the past. Halo 3 does not have serious issues as infinite does. Back when MCC released, it was terrible, worse than 360 days. Ever since it ported to PC however, it's been much better, almost too good.

The netcode has seen insane improvement. If I could compare from back when i played in 2014-15 to now, it would be an insane improvement.

I competed in H5 around the 2018-20 time of MCC and I didn't play much about it's trials so I can't say that much. But i did indeed experience such issues and I've seen a lot as well.

But overall, MCC H3 has WAYYYY better netcode than both 360 H3 and Infinite

[grim citrus]

Oh, for the record I’m not a fan of infinite at all.

[solemn needle]

Same, it got so bad that I had to make a whole new account to reset my mindset and start over

[marble halo]

Im more mad infinite doesnt have industry standard feature. For the amount this game crashes you think theyd insititure loss forgiveness or let you rejoin lol

[solemn needle]

Need team rejoin desparately, but I heard people say somehow ppl could abuse that? Lol

[grim citrus]

To me, halo 5 MP was everything

[marble halo]

Im still unsure how it could be abused?

[solemn needle]

Me too, idk how someone could abuse that

[grim citrus]

The guys at 343 at the tune made something memorable

[solemn needle]

Same, that's my bread and butter, especially coming from a reach kid that I am

[grim citrus]

When games started to evolve on the movement, H5 to me was the one game that adapted to it naturally. And a lot of it had to do with reach’s experimenting with abilities

Compared to games like cod which pretty much just tacked it on

[solemn needle]

Yeah Halo 5 influenced everything for me afterwards. Halo is the only video game I've actually really played my whole life so. I play all the older halos similar to H5. My muscle memory will sometimes catch myself crouch strafing in h2 even tho it's not good to do at all in that game 😂

I play Halo very fast and challenging due to what I've learned from h4/h5

I grew up playing reach and h4 everyday then that led to me playing h3 a while before h5 released

H5 was when i started getting into competitive halo

[grim citrus]

I grew up on the legacy games, but h5 made me realize how great halo can be

[solemn needle]

Same, though Reach is my fav and I know that h5 is very controversial

[grim citrus]

It’s controversial for the wrong reasons and it saddens me to this day.

[toxic parrot]

Kinda depends on what but for example, when I played gears of war they had that feature. Can't remember if in ranked too. Now imagine if your team does so horrible that they immediately leave and then rejoin when the game is about to end

By abuse,players will just use it to avoid playing full games if they know they're going to lose and just rejoin when the game is almost over so they don't have to play it. Also I might be wrong but I think they also never got a penalty for it

[white birch]

4. They get tired of being unable to handle the change in game style and want the constant curbstomping to finally stop. Having walked over my fair share of people in the game, I dont blame em. Getting stomped isn't fun.

[toxic parrot]

It kinda depends on how the game puts you in terms of skill. The game likes to screw me and others over because I've gotten in matches where I'm basically fighting for my life to try and help out. And it's not to say my team is trash,they're just not at my skill level. So I wouldn't mind losing a game, but why do I have to play games where my teammates end up with almost no kills and I end up with +30 kills. If it gave me good opponents and good teammates then it would be more balanced

[solemn needle]

That too, MMR was worse than the end of H5's situation

Learning curve too I guess you could say. I have a lotta friends that I could 15-0 in plaza 1s in H5 but they could destroy me in H3 1s due to the movement and different skill gap

[solemn needle]

That's why there should be a time limit of some sort

[toxic parrot]

True. My only issue with the game is,why make ffa temporary? It's a Playlist that's been in halo since halo 2

It's also the only Playlist where I can just chill and enjoy a game

[solemn needle]

Yea idk why some permament playlists are being rotated while there are other playlists you could rotate that don't matter as much

[toxic parrot]

Fiesta in my opinion should be rotated. Same with land grab instead of being a quick play mode

[plucky parcel]

Ain't no way it took them a year to make a giveaway 💀

[solemn needle]

What giveaway

[crystal iron]

Heyo 8 days left till Starfeild

.... My bad wrong discord... Carry on

[white birch]

And so begins the "Halo is good now" content spam...

[ebon lava]

Fiesta is one of the most popular modes people play lol, I don't remember the exact numbers but it may even be top 3 after Ranked and Quick Play

a lot of people (like me) jumped ship though after they introduced the Super variants into it so the numbers may have changed a bit

[drowsy storm]

Kinda curious what a remake of Halo CE with all the modern additions to the lore would look like
Cuz from what I've read apparently the Combine had significantly more of their arsenal on Installation 04 than we see in-game
Brutes, Phantoms, a Scarab and apparently even a Lich to name some

[lime robin]

The... Combine?

@wide trout did you do a resonance cascade?

[wide trout]

i do not think a resonance cascade occurred on installation O4, nor do I think the combine was there to begin with

[pale nacelle]

need new campain

if I die before the next campain comes out ima be so pissed

[fiery matrix]

man Halo 3 ODST with the Catch skull on is something else. the skull isn't nearly as unforgiving in the other Halo games I've used it on

[analog salmon]

yah i think they just thought it would be hilarious for firefight

which it kinda is lol

bonus round is more like hardcore try not to die

[shell mulch]

Agree, they don't even shoot, they just throw nades endlessly.

[jaunty jungle]

A friend of mine that I played Xbox with back in the day were lamenting about the vidmaster challenges so we could get recon armor. Endure was the toughest one, for us.

[ruby knoll]

might have meant the harvester

[crystal iron]

Quand est-ce qu’on va faire la chasse au tricheur de M….!?!

[signal ivy]

Hello, messages in this channel must be in English

[crystal iron]

Depuis la saison 4 c’est devenu n’importe quoi les matchmaking !! Des argents 4 contre des or 4!
Des mecs qui ne meurent pas au bout de deux grenades et qui te tuent avec un coup de poing… sérieusement ?!!!!

[frosty condor]

@crystal iron English is the official language for this server, unless speaking in #español . Thank you.

L'anglais est la langue officielle de ce serveur. Nous vous remercions.

[muted brook]

Is there a way to have starting gear in custom game in halo infinite, and if so, is it possible to make it infinite use equipment.

[uneven vortex]

So I’m a long time halo fan but I’ve never completed halo 3 halo3 odyst or reach

But however I’ve played and completed every other main campaign halo game

So I need to ask does the flood return in halo 3 just cause if they do I need to set my self up for raging

[signal ivy]

yes

[uneven vortex]

Oh fantastic

I absolutely hate the flood

[signal ivy]

same

[uneven vortex]

Way more than the brutes or the prophets ||mainly for.how they treat the elites||

I’m glad I bought the original Xbox 3 years back cuz it runs smoother than most current gens the graphics are beyond nostalgic and the duke controller in my opinion really cozy to hold you get me

But in halo ce the flood was quite strong but halo 2 was just taking the piss

But still halo 2 goes down as my second favourite halo

First being 4 because it was the first shooter game I ever played

I was 5 or six when I got into halo now in turning sixteen

[celest heron]

you're in for a flood treat with h3

[glacial jackal]

Guys is there any way for couch coop for the campaign? I remember hearing about it, though I don't know if it will work on the Xbox one X

[tame crane]

sad my unicorn of fire still hasnt appeared in game 😰

[lusty wraith]

Used to be a glitch (I assume you’re talking about Infinite). Currently might not be possible anymore

[glacial jackal]

Damn

[solemn needle]

Started out with reach and h4 for me

[ruby knoll]

ditto 🤝

[shell mulch]

Does anyone actually manages to do the 'Sweat Equity' challenge in Halo: MCC? All competitive matchmaking playlists are dead.

[uneven vortex]

I don’t know I’ve not done mcc online in ages

[uneven vortex]

H4 is very underrated it’s not a favourite with a lot of fans cuz the bad multiplayer

But h4’s campaign is bloody goated

[solemn needle]

Most 40s-50s are smurfing in h3 dubs, pretty easy to find a game there

[solemn needle]

Yea, I like h4 as well. H4 transitioning to H5’s movement def influenced how I play halo today

[uneven vortex]

Fun fact I only upgrade Xbox when a new halo game releases

[shell mulch]

Which one? the normal one or the hardcore one?

[solemn needle]

Both, normal one is the current one rotated, tho MS is the most populated one when rotated in

[shell mulch]

I will try, but most of the time, I never manage to find any matches in competitive

[full warren]

since tuesday I am getting harder people to play vs but my team mates are still as bad so annooying

[cinder pier]

do yall think the drones or engineers will ever return? its starting to feel like they were forgotten

[full warren]

wow I crash at 49 kils...

I knew it was going to crash because the game became stuttery and started rubber banding me everywhere

[covert escarp]

hello

[final raptor]

What all is rumoured for season 5?

[full warren]

3v4 for 2 games in a row... sure we have more new players into this game but its literally runining the game

[uneven vortex]

I think I’ve found the treat

||I’m in the mission the covenant and a astroid crashed with the flood in it||

[devout kite]

Will 343 ever fix how CSR is giving out like how can the person that did the most get little while the person that went bad get more

[celest heron]

I was mainly referring to all the new versions of them, but that's cool too

[uneven vortex]

I do like the new design but every game they are In they get a tad stronger than they were in ce

[lime root]

I love losing all of my matches back to back, think I’m on a current 7 or 8 game losing streak right now, half these games are “join in progress” now I use the quotation marks as it’s more of a join and instantly lose system at the moment. I’m so sick of joining in progress to a team that is getting absolutely demolished, on top of that I’ve not had 1 local connection game for ages. I’m so sick of waiting 10 minutes for a join in progress game on 300 ping only to lose 2 minutes later. I’m absolutely over it.
It’s a shame because I’m enjoying where Halo is at right now, just feel like I’m bashing my head against a wall trying to get into a fair match on local connection from the start. I can handle one or two of those gripes but not all 3 back to back all at once.
Honestly about to drop this game for Apex Legends because at least I can choose my own server find a game quickly and not have to worry about join in progress to a losing game.
Figure it out 343.

[dusk whale]

i fully feel you. Although i don't get JIP-matches that often, almost all my matches are one-sided losses as well. Even though i still do good with an average k/d of 1.9 in the last 20 matches, i only won once... It's just draining all the fun out of the game if you are literaly not allowed to win.
And it's also not like there are not enough players around, since i kept matches with/against different players all the time. It's just the total lack of team balancing (on top of the lack of SBMM wich creates a whole different kind of problem with people being severely outskilled and quitting matches because they can't even play in that match).
But the bigger problem is that the devs don't even want to listen to it. When you report that the team balancing isn't working, they basicly just say that they don't care. It's realy demoralizing

[ruby knoll]

wym "just say they don't care"

[dusk whale]

they say it's not a problem with the matchmaking but just a 'personal preference'. Like WTF?!

[ruby knoll]

was this an official response or something

[dusk whale]

yes, because i filed a report about it, since it wasn't only me who has the problem, but also all my friends who also lose all their matches and even on reddit or on the stream of a halo-streamer where i am a mod off i hear the very same problem. So i decided to file a ticket about it. But they just shrug it off like i said.

[lime root]

Sorry to hear you’re not being listened to. It’s absolutely crazy to think the response is essentially we know, deal with it.

[nova dirge]

For infinite or mcc?

[glacial jackal]

infinite

[nova dirge]

Yeah you can’t do couch coop but you can do coop if you have another device

[glacial jackal]

yeah we just used another device

[nova dirge]

I don’t know I think you have to search it up

[glacial jackal]

I believed they fixed it anyways

[nova dirge]

You can do normal online coop but split screen coop requires a glitch

So if you have two devices you can do it

If not you have to do some weird glitch to play on the same device

[uneven vortex]

||I’m on the cutscene where the flood are helping john||

[ivory glacier]

It’s crazy they put out that death cam update. Don’t they test these things. It’s somehow worse than the old death cams. Not that big a deal cuz I can still figure out what’s going on but how did they release that as a finished update

[crystal iron]

Jello folks, Any new updates

[celest heron]

it's obviously tested, but our opinions can differ on what we think is good or acceptable.

[lusty wraith]

Yes it is tested and I imagine QA said “what we’ve implemented works”

100% valid to say though that it doesn’t really meet a high quality standard.

Another thing related that I’m wondering, are vehicle perspective cameras still working as before? Like the warthog “action” cam? Would be a shame if that got nixed

[celest heron]

yes, it's still there

[ivory glacier]

You think they’re good? If anything slightly improved. Emphasis on slightly

[celest heron]

I'm saying the community can differ on what 343 and them think is good.

[uneven vortex]

I fin halo 3

It was bloody amazing

[frosty condor]

Best Halo game ever made, amirite?

[uneven vortex]

Yes

[brittle cedar]

hi im nathaniel i like to teabag and trash talk

[tame crane]

Since last weeks ice unicorns got awarded today does that mean our fire unicorns will get rewarded soon? 😰

Almost feel like we won't be seeing them since its been over a week and the submission form says "Note that it can take approximately up to a week for the rewards to be added to your account." but its now over a week by almost 2 days 😰

[cyan wedge]

i wish the cortana vs atroix scene was AT THE START OF THE GAME (and not a hologram)

WOULD HAVE BLOWN MY MIND

...
btw when people say their platform in #lfg-campaign , does it mean anything? i thought you can crossplay? or cannot?

[lusty wraith]

You can crossplay

[marble halo]

1191 in Ranked. Game crashes. 1176. At this point with the frequency the game crashes I feel like we should have a loss forgiveness built in. This is so frustrating. Happens like on average once every 2 hours it seems like

[cyan wedge]

ty

...
imagine if halo infinite opened with a planet blowing up, and then you-know-who swearing revenge, cant stop thinking about how mindblowing that would have been

maybe i should make a machinima

[lusty wraith]

I would reorder a lot of the events as was told in the game

Big thing for me is mirroring the knowledge of the player with the player character, 343i’s separation of MC and us as players is a big peeve I have

[cyan wedge]

i think that flaw only came up in infinite, 4 and 5 didnt have separation of knowledge

in infinite you know about as much as mindwiped weapon does

i just feel like if they told the story in linear format it would have been not only easier to follow but gives a really strong opening scene with atroix swearing revenge on cortana

doesnt even need 5's backstory for new players, just say "the ai control humans now, the ai will go fight aliens next" and you have everything you need to know

instead we have the infinite blowing up, chief getting owned by atroix and even as a fan i have no idea what is going on, i doubt newbies do

[lusty wraith]

Yea but they did begin the whole ‘Chief is his own character shtick which kind of created this barrier for me who really liked the you-are-the-player-character style. Instead of being the Master Chief and living the story, it’s more like we’re just observing as a third party now, only it’s still first person

[cyan wedge]

i only felt like that in 4

he's still mostly a boring hero soldier so he's mostly still self-insertable

but then again you play locke most of the time not him in 5, and in infinite they made chief 0 personality again

[grim citrus]

That’s what happens when majority complain that 343i halo games weren’t “halo”

[cyan wedge]

even if you pretend bungie halo didnt exist 343 is still subpar

[white birch]

Bungie games had me foot slogging till Reach, and even then sprint was a pain to use properly.
Give me grappling hooks, movement and being able to smash into a foe with my armored shoulder any day.

And miss me with that freakin bloom and god awful projectile BR in 3...leading shots, no thanks.

[grim citrus]

Subpar in what regards?

[grave ether]

It can take longer than that it seems

[cyan wedge]

no consistent plot over the trilogy

no consistent mp style

cortana dies (ok story), cortana alive again and character assassinated, cortana then being useless against the banished loooool despite her promethean 3d printers

mp is cod, then not cod 5 (pretty good), then some bungie bait infinite

[signal ivy]

I feel like people who say H4 was Call of Duty have never played call of duty before

or just like to jump on the bandwagon saying H4 was like COD

[smoky wave]

Most likely both

[onyx latch]

Being able to combine them would've been pretty peak.

[onyx latch]

A lot of the vitriol over 343i era games looks just like bandwagoning to me at this point.

Comes across more as pathetic than anything else.

[pastel ingot]

why am i getting unranked players with not even a level in onyx lobbys?

[frosty condor]

Placement matches?

[magic night]

They are probably someone who hasn't finished their placement matches but plays around the Onyx level

[lusty wraith]

Respectfully, I don’t get why it’s so hard to admit that Halo 4 did try to mimic COD in many ways. Like it’s extremely blatant and obvious. Just because it wasn’t exactly COD doesn’t mean that they weren’t influenced by it

[frosty condor]

Influence is the right word here and I said it back in 2012

Adding customized loadouts where you can swap mid-game was like CoD

[lusty wraith]

Like perks, killcam, hitmarkers, base-sprint, pseudo-killstreaks, building loadouts, etc

[frosty condor]

Yes, Reach had similar things, but they were not customizable

[lusty wraith]

Not saying COD influence is bad necessarily (weapon skins are nice customizations), but just denying reality man…

[supple moat]

Yup, the crashes are a real issue, same for me once every 90 minutes or so and of course right in the middle of a fun competitive game…. Halo 5 crashed less in 6 years of playing than infinite in the past month….

[marble halo]

Not only that but it affects others too. I’ve had teammates rwndomly drop as we were winning

[supple moat]

Yup again, I started a quick play match by myself last night as the other 3 dropped out during the opening screen shot… wtf?

[eternal lion]

To me, Halo 4 was just following the trend of Halo Reach. And yes customization was more like CoD. But Reach was already more like cod then Halo 3... (loadouts and all)

[full warren]

thoguht someone was hacking but nope its just controller aim assit, dude just spamming the pistol as fast as he can lol......

lol the guy switched on mnk half way into the match his movement and turning speed completely changes lol and looks like a different player playing, lol he even stand still for like 20s while his passing it someone else

[lusty wraith]

H4 definitely did keep Reach’s ideas, but Reach wasn’t really following COD trends besides including sprint in a limited capacity and the addition of ‘loadouts’ (that were set per gamemode, non-adjustable by the player). Armor abilities were largely still unique and an exploration of updating Halo’s equipment

[eternal lion]

I tend to see that it was adapting to the new context of the 2010'. And this context was getting faster and with loadouts.

They still did they own version. But they got closer then before.

[glacial tartan]

Halo stopped setting trends and started chasing them. I consider that to be the “influence” we’re describing.

[ruby knoll]

ugh, that dumb phrase
pray tell what trends halo even set after 2? all the low hanging fruit was gonna get snapped up eventually

[eternal lion]

And in fact Halo tried thing that became trends latter :
Spartan ops (ongoing content, that was trendy in 2013-2015 with episodic games for exemple)
Story in multiplayer (Halo 4 did it. Overwatch was 2 years later)

[tulip tusk]

SETTING TRENDS BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHASING BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[eternal lion]

Halo 5 with Warzone too

And on things that just didnt worked but at least tried : Trying to do a FPS campaign with exploration phases (not great, but it tried)

[glacial tartan]

the point being the steps that 343 has taken to make the brand their own - often copy/pasting concepts from other successful titles - hasnt worked.

they were attempts which i can appreciate/respect but im not going to lie to myself that these were overwhelming successes, right

[eternal lion]

Its life, sometimes it works, sometime it doesnt. Sometime you are trendy, sometime you are not.

[glacial tartan]

maybe the next 10 years of 343 can turn things around, fingers crossed.

[lusty wraith]

“Setting trends” is an undefined term. Can see a lot of other games/studios following Halo’s footsteps in terms of creative tools (theater, ‘creative’ tools for maps/modes/etc) whether it be because they’re following Halo specifically idk, but you could arguably trace back this specific wave to Halo imo

[ruby knoll]

theatre and forge aren't original

or options for modes

halo 3 forge is pathetically limited compared to other ingame mapmakers, including ones that released before

[onyx latch]

Halo started out following trends.

[lusty wraith]

Halo 3’s theater is unarguably fantastic and Reach only improved it, and it’s incredibly reductive to pretend that the ease of use and reach of forge wasn’t simply incredible for the time

[onyx latch]

People act like it made trends, but it followed things that had existed in the PC Market for nearly half a decade when CE came out.

Even the concept of regenerating health and vehicles weren't novel concepts. The most it did was streamline specific equipment to their own buttons, but the writing couldn't be more on the wall if you wrote it in human blood that it'd become the norm.

[grim citrus]

Yeah… I was expecting a response like this. Don’t think I should spend the time getting into a back and forward with you.

[onyx latch]

The most transformative thing Halo ever did was Halo 3's marketing campaign being so in-depth, massive, and involved.

Halo 3's marketing is literally one of the defacto case-defining examples of mass marketing in games in terms of scope, cost, and success.

[lusty wraith]

I’m on vacation so I’m done responding after this, but you guys are downplaying and misrepresenting facts that 343i employees themselves have acknowledged. Halo did set trends

[onyx latch]

And I think those employees are wrong.

What, were you expecting me to agree with them, because I don't hate 343i as a company?

[ruby knoll]

theatre was done by games with 0 funding ages before bungie thought up ways to monetize it

ditto with forge

just because they were widely used doesn't erase the work done by other projects/titles ages before bungie stole the ideas

[ruby knoll]

don't forget halo 2 having a marketing budget 2x the size of the actual game budget

[onyx latch]

Bungie didn't monetize theater, tbf.

Really, nobody did.

[ruby knoll]

monetized fileshare

[onyx latch]

Ah.

Didn't think about Fileshare, my bad.

Either way, passage of time's a bad deal for everyone involved.

[desert coral]

anyone else just randomly stop getting any points from ranked games? yday I was getting +15 for wins but today only +5 (and against Onyx competition too)

[onyx latch]

Halo didn't even come up with the control scheme that makes up 99.9% of modern gamepad shooter controls, lmao. But I've seen tons of (Unlearned) people say that though.

[grim citrus]

Halo popularized a lot of trends on consoles, but that’s about it.

[glacial tartan]

Bungie stole so many concepts, there’s a reason they made really terrible games and 343s fresh original concepts are thriving.

It’s frustrating to see the direction of these conversations - they could be so productive! Well, as long as MCC stays up I’m good 😂

[ruby knoll]

i never denied 343 borrows or works with existing stuff

i'm just not going to pretend that bungie was this ultra innovative studio that invented in game map editors, or match replay, among other things

[white birch]

You're putting too much logic into this for the most part.

Most people just want to hate the game right now because it makes them feel something.

[uneven vortex]

Technically most of the stuff in the new games by 343 aren’t actually fresh a lot of stuff in modern halo games are re used stuff and I hate to say it but as much as I hate to say it the only game on there that is 343’s own consept even then halo 4 reused stuff from previous games as filler that’s what 343 halo games are just half of it being filler from bungies halo games

[drowsy storm]

People act like there's absolutely nothing redeemable about post-Bungie Halo
When Liches are basically flying Scarabs, Grapple Hook revolutionized mobility and the Banished exist
Heck, I even like the Prometheans, at least from a gameplay perspective

[uneven vortex]

But if your talking about destiny 2 the yes designs of the characters are very similar to the Spartans but then it’s bungies art style

[glacial tartan]

ive never said the games arent good - ive played them all. i have more hours played in mcc than probably 99 percent of people. but i can admit 343 doesnt have the formula right and hopefully after another 10 years they figure it out. just dont take mcc down please

[uneven vortex]

Since wen was mcc getting taken down

[glacial tartan]

its not - but its the only 343 game today that i want to play every day.

[cyan wedge]

then dont ping me

[uneven vortex]

Then play it

[cyan wedge]

also lol, saying mcc is the only good thing about 343's games when it's just an outsourced collection of bungie games comon man

[uneven vortex]

It’s only the halo games that were released on Xbox 360 where they weren’t part of mcc those servers are shutting down mcc is safe though

[cyan wedge]

i‘m also still waiting for h5 pc

[uneven vortex]

1 game is a 343 game on mcc

[glacial tartan]

dont forget halo 4 2, aka h2a

[cyan wedge]

woopee doo doo who cares. that wasnt the point

[glacial tartan]

this channel makes me miss halo waypoint, the conversations felt so fruitful

[cyan wedge]

1 game barely anyone cares about next to 5 bungie games and suddenly it's all pure 343 now

2 was outsourced to sabre for cutscenes and i forget who for game

[grim citrus]

Definitely will not be pinging you anytime soon.

[glacial tartan]

all of those features stripped out of the individual titles

[grim citrus]

Lol “halo is trying to be cod” is just a tired joke

[cyan wedge]

if you read anything u'd notice people said that applied to 4 and maybee reach

5-6 not so much

[grim citrus]

Lmaoo

[cyan wedge]

i like some things about 343 but they always ditch it the next game so i cant care much

[grim citrus]

Halo 4 is nothing like cod.

Loudouts isn’t a cod invention

[cyan wedge]

i liked locke but you have to watch nightfall to care about him, he was bland in 5, then in 6 he's gone

[grim citrus]

You don’t have to watch anything

Did you have to read the fall of reach to care about Chief?

[cyan wedge]

and your point is?

[grim citrus]

You don’t need to watch external media to “care” about characters

[cyan wedge]

did i call chief bland in h1 and the only personality he had was in a book and he's dead with no explanation halo 2? no

because that's locke

[grim citrus]

I have no idea what you just said. Can you structure your sentence better?

[cyan wedge]

can you read better

[cyan wedge]

i literally said he was bland 5

[grim citrus]

Bland in what regards

[cyan wedge]

without nightfall you dont care about him

[grim citrus]

That’s you my guy

[cyan wedge]

give me one memorable line he uttered

one cool scene

(the opening with the paper elites doesnt count)

he's just a boring "do missions" guy

even the rest of osiris has more

his good lines are in nightfall

[grim citrus]

Wow, it’s almost like that was part of his character description.

Lines = not bland

[cyan wedge]

as opposed to terminals locke or nightfall locke?

[grim citrus]

You do realize that a character’s personality varies, depending on the structure of the plot… right?

Nightfall was a character driven origin story, whereas halo 5 was not.

[ivory glacier]

Wtf why is the game still crashing. In the middle of a great match and another crash

[grim citrus]

Are you playing on PC?

[ivory glacier]

No Xbox. It doesn’t happen like crazy often but it seems to happen when it’s a really fun match

[grim citrus]

Wow. Thought the crashing was limited to PC. Had the game since launch and it never crashed on me

Series X?

[ivory glacier]

Yeah series X. It doesn’t crash every session but once in awhile

[uneven bison]

Really? My series X almost never crashes.

But that makes it all the more annoying when it does once in a blue moon

[ivory glacier]

Not that big a deal just when it does happen it’s bad timing

[uneven bison]

Are you doing something specific when it crashes, or is it just random

[celest heron]

Bungie didn't combine 6 games in one which was a pretty big thing to pull off. They also didn't port most of the games to PC or add odst ff. Sure a lot of it was outsourced, but 343 did do a lot of work as well and cleaned up/fixed a bunch of stuff.

[celest heron]

was replying to that.

[ivory glacier]

Not that I can remember. I had just sniped two guys and switched to BR for a triple and the game froze and a few seconds later it crashed. That’s why I was kinda annoyed. I can’t remember what was going on when the other crashes happened

I think just bad timing

[white birch]

Why is there a 2240 ranked Onyx fighting Plaaattttss what is this MMR!?

The dude was literally moving like he was one with his computer, how in the heck does this WORK.
I mean we still won but BRUH.

[grim citrus]

Probably has to do with low population.

[white birch]

Makes sense I guess. STILL.

[grim citrus]

the population should not be like this. I remember when this game dropped; a lot of people were saying how much this game would be great if it had content. And when content is finally dropped, majority of those people haven’t returned.

[civic willow]

Any ideas why won’t they perm add ranked doubles not everyone has 4 people square ready to go . Never had issues finding people I. Matchmaking when ranked doubles is up

[dim jewel]

I had a silly idea for a Halo Fanfic

[uneven vortex]

John makes out with the grunts and they all get married and make little cortanas

[full warren]

LOL the match making some times really meses up, I got a team of low plat gold vs onyx and diamonds

Literally mm can not handle squads

we were 4 randoms vs a duo or trio

[frosty condor]

On the Team Lineup tab in the PGCR, what is the total MMR between both teams?

If the numbers are close to each other, then the system is doing its job.

[full warren]

This is team slayer not ranked, I know ranked is fine but jsut ebcause its social it can't be this bad

I get teams mates taht are 0/15

[frosty condor]

Ah, gotcha

[quasi finch]

I dropped all the way to gold 4 in ranked tactical cause some dude got 30 or so kills

[full warren]

That is swat lol

[quasi finch]

And I had gotten him in matches before and he consistently gets over 20 kills

He’s insane

[quasi finch]

I know what it is

[full warren]

well I mean at gold any diamond will look insane lol

his probably new account or smurfing

or you know a mnk player

[quasi finch]

I’m not gonna play rn cause I just went up almost two ranks and I lost it all cause of him

[quasi finch]

That’s what I was thinking but I didn’t want to sound like a kid

[full warren]

1/13 and 3/13 come on, seriously I jsut want a team mate that is not a bot

[knotty ermine]

Is halo infinite dead yet?

[ruby knoll]

no

[knotty ermine]

I've been to the custom browsers and I've seen more lobbies in mcc

[full warren]

I mean shroud and summit tried it and they had some harsh words

So its not dead, but no mnk player will ever come to this game after what they said

[knotty ermine]

After what they said. I don't need some streamer to validate for me. I played it and it's horrendous. Also forge came so late. Etc

[full warren]

add it to the 1000 they already have

[knotty ermine]

How are they still updating the game?

[ruby knoll]

forge has been here for months. yes it sucks it came late but i mean it's been here for ages now and it's the best one so far

was it a oneoff or does it happen consistently? i'd file a ticket

then why complain here?

validation seeking?

if you think there's a bug then it's worth making a ticket

[crystal mortar]

| |I || | _

[full warren]

Literally can not play this game without being in a dup

same stats as this guy he is 65% win rate because he only plays in a duo

while I dont' so stupid.

[quasi finch]

Id rather have no teamate than a bot

At least spartan leveled bot

[rancid kelp]

In MCC Halo 2 multiplayer has anyone ever picked up weapons with no ammo before?

[quasi finch]

But they give me marine level bots

I don’t play halo 2

[rancid kelp]

Oh okay. Must be a bug. I don’t remember that ever happening back in the day.

[full warren]

WEll a bot is more useful than these teamamtes

bots get into objectives and shoot back

These people just run around headless

[tulip tusk]

bots destroy me rlly quickly sometimes

[quasi finch]

Not my bots

1 kill 17 deaths

[full warren]

I mean thats about the same as these noobs so might as well,

because bots actually try to sit in objective

[young glen]

Bots are so bad man.

In capture the flag they actively try to hurt you by carrying the flag away from your point lol.

[full warren]

I stand by my point they atleast pick up the flag

Some people I get in my games should not be playing a fps, they walk around like its minecraft

[young glen]

Infinite's matchmaking seems to try to balance teams by giving each team a good player, while filling the spots with players from the other end of the skill spectrum.

I suppose in a way, it isn't the worst philosophy, as two good players on a single team could absolutely dominate.

But obviously not ideal...

But yeah, I feel bad for the new players that go 0-20 or whatever on their first match(es).

[full warren]

just got put into a server where ever 10s my game stutters....

American server...

[analog geyser]

does anyone even play halo 5 in 2023

[full warren]

team mate went 2/20 and 0/12

WOW, literally worse tahn bots

[young glen]

Temporarily removed because of career rank boosting.

Idk, probably because you lvie in Asia

Make sure your search preference is set to expanded

From what I've read from other Australian players: if there is, there isn't sufficient players to fill a server.

[full warren]

I am in UK and its all American servers right now

very annoying as because of high ping you just die behind walls

[onyx latch]

Usually WZFF.

[quasi finch]

God is testing me rn

[full warren]

also its not on mcc so can't even play it lol

[slim flint]

I played the campaign and haven’t touched it since

[quasi finch]

These dumb teamates make me so pissed

I can’t just leave ranked

But they do like it’s casual

Or they straight up suck, bottom 1%

I’m trying to get to plat

I was gold 6

Now I’m gold 5 cause my last match all my teammates had 2 kills and the match before my teamate left and another teamate had 5 kills and 17 deaths

[onyx latch]

I feel like most of the eternal gold hell players complain about teammates more often than Plat or above.

Reminds me of Overwatch, really.

[full warren]

lol the guy who went 2/20 in my game got like 18/8 in his game because the game decided to finally put me with bronze and people who only joined the game LOL

crazy how match making is just handing him free wins

[ivory glacier]

Wait so are you complaining cuz he had a bad game or a good game?

[quasi finch]

I’m going to have an aneurism

Tactical slyer the score was 37-47

We caught up to 49-49

I died to a kid named blitzschneid

Im done

The more I play this game the worse I get

I went from plat 2 in halo 5 to gold 3 now

[drowsy storm]

I keep seeing this "Flood Juggernaut" come up in mods, apparently it was a thing in Halo 2
Big bulky boi, even moreso than Tank Forms, with tentacles and shockwaves
Did I just never notice it? Or does it only appear on higher difficulties? Or is it outright unused? Or

[onyx latch]

Maybe it's connected to your anger driving you to ragepost on the official Discord of the game.

[white birch]

Also the SBMMs different in Infinite than in 5...

[full warren]

complaining match making is a joke

[muted brook]

we need scorpion jousting in infinite

[slim flint]

it’s unused in halo 2 but was still in the files

though, 343 later added them in Fireteam Raven

[drowsy storm]

Interesting

[quasi finch]

Lmao no

When I played halo 4 and 5 I got mad a lot

I don’t usually get mad anymore until today cause my teammates were really bad

And I dropped right before I was gonna get plat

And you can’t just leave ranked

Without losing csr

[lime robin]

I remember I modded them in once

They'd jump off a Pelican and attack

They have textures in classic mode and in Anniversary they're completely blank

[grim citrus]

What competitive rank are you usually in

If you’re not in at least d5, you’re going to be dealing with a lot of unskilled players

[quasi finch]

I’m not d5

But I don’t understand how skilled based matchmaking just doesn’t exist for me

That’s what it’s starting to seem like

I’m not doing bad I still perform well just my teammates

I don’t like blaming my teammates but it’s so annoying that I get the worst teammates

[grim citrus]

Do you play solo?

[marble halo]

100% convinced this game does other things to rank lock you in. As soon as I get people on to run 4 stack in rank and as soon as I hit diamond 1 the BS starts. Game crashes. Played one game where I couldnt hear my team. We reset. Played the next game and one other teammate couldnt hear us lol.

Its my tinfoil hat. We got tired of fighting the game so we quit

[merry mural]

Anyone know how long it takes for your gameplay to show up in theater in MCC?

[cosmic mauve]

have you guys noticed any performance improvements in the newer updates or nah

[analog salmon]

thats just cause diamond is plagued with 4 stacks

diamond players just go looking for other random diamond players with mics to climb up

done it myself, it works, you climb up seemingly indefinitely

in a way its just the game

the diamond skill level is about where team coordination becomes much more important

but i still just think its wrong solos can be matched against quads and a proper solution to this problem would have done the game and the ranked population wonders

ever since i climbing half way up diamond with 3 other guys, i know playing solo im just gonna go back down, pretty demotivating even if i find the game fun

[onyx latch]

Wait, did they get rid of the solo/duo queue?

I could've swore that was a thing at launch.

AKA the one time I bothered playing Ranked

[analog salmon]

they did but it wasn't viable outside NA

they need 1 intelligent queue. It might not be easy technically but it's a solution without any real downsides.

the only downside is pretty much that if everyone solo queues, quads might have long wait times. but that's fair

if you stack its reasonable that you will have to wait to find another similar size stack

the fact they're blocking onyx quads/trios rather then implementing a system to make it so onyx quads will only match with onyx quads tells me its not easy but it should nevertheless be a long term goal I think

[onyx latch]

It kind of reminds me of MWO's issue with Group Queue and full stacks, because you'd have 12 man premades ROFLstomping uncoordinated 2-4 team Pugs that had 12 members total across those groups.

[glacial tartan]

It’s immediate, not sure what you mean. As soon as the game ends it will be in your theater, excluding games without theater (HCE/H2)

[vapid marten]

While an issue, somewhat alleviated by the tonnage restrictions

[celest heron]

the biggest complainer in here is diamond. just sayin

[onyx latch]

Hmmmmn. Perhaps.

I don't complain at all, so.

Because I'm forever unranked

[celest heron]

just bring back Menke to figure something out. At least he was pretty transparent about the issues.

[quasi finch]

I have to my friends are… not very good. I make looking group posts occasionally but it’s usually either good or bad players there’s no way for me to know. I do put gold in the looking group post and sometimes going for plat but that doesn’t help. It’s usually ppl using other ppl to get a good rank.

[celest heron]

I try for plat as well, but have similar issues. Kind of sad personally cause I've been diamond and onyx in previous games.

[grim citrus]

Shoot me a DM

[quasi finch]

Ight

[quasi finch]

I’ve only ever been plat and gold

I have one person I can play with who is plat and gold like me but he’s never on. Earlier I did find 2 guys who were consistently good so I think I’ll ask em to play later and hopefully my friend will be on but he mostly plays siege.

I only really need 1 or 2 good teammates, preferably 2 because I can manage carrying one guy

That’s why I miss ranked duos

I got gold 6 then it changed again

I got gold 3 in ranked arena bc of my friend and I don’t blame him cause he was having a bad day so I’ll just have to rank up

[woeful wigeon]

the game is rigged that's why noone likes playing ranked

[uneven bison]

Rigged? I think that’s a major exaggeration, to say the least

I don’t think there are functions within the game that prevent you from reaching a higher rank

deliberately at least

[merry mural]

Ahhh. I didn't know HCE and H2 didn't have theater. I asked because I encountered a full team of hackers and only recorded a small amount of evidence (enough to hopefully get them banned). I was hoping to use theater mode for the rest but the gameplay never showed. Good to know now to completely avoid those two games.