halo-discussion

[small goblet]

That’s what tgat means

[shell wing]

bruh I'm on wired connection

literally how

[small goblet]

So we can add hit reg to the list of new problems

[shell wing]

I don't think there's anywhere i can post those clips eh?

[small goblet]

#1076327824924872755

[shell wing]

I'm just super frustrated this stuff doesn't happen to me in MCC. .

I'm not sure if that's allowed there

[small goblet]

I put mine there

It says clips and it’s a clip

[shell wing]

I'll have to put these through something like streamable since no direct uploads

[small goblet]

Yeah i just Xbox

[shell wing]

aight posted it

[devout kite]

Can squad battles be a permanent mode

[shell wing]

I'd hope it is 8v8 feels way better than 12v12

[devout kite]

Ik I like btb but it’s nice to play on the halo 3 maps

[empty rapids]

btb is fun with a ton of vehicles and a ton of anti vehicle weapons

can rack up 10+ kills and then get sent to the shadow realm lol

[misty vale]

Heavies is S tier

[ruby knoll]

i prefer 12v12 tbh

[misty vale]

Eh, they both have positive and negative

[ruby knoll]

but a medium sized mode is nice

[misty vale]

I like squads bc the action vs strategy of 12v12

[shell wing]

I don't feel like the 12v12 maps are? Big enough? Except oasis i really like oasis

12v12 is great for something like btb heavies but i think 8v8 is great for plain btb

[misty vale]

You must like sniper

[shell wing]

Nah I'm not a fan of the sniper in inf tbh

I mostly like mid range and close range weapons

[devout kite]

I’m glad 343 is removing the sword on catalyst when it returns to rank

[ivory glacier]

By far the worst battle pass in the history of battle passes lol. But the one armor effect is nice though. I’ll give ‘em that

[shell wing]

i honestly just want the metallic blue coating. . .

[low musk]

I like the Trendlock Helmet. Then there are those two chest pieces on the Mk7 that actually work with the armor coating. Hopefully they continue to do that moving forward

[shell wing]

I wish they moved to an armor color system like I guess the best way to describe it

[low musk]

You mean like the older halo games?

[shell wing]

is what Warframe did. release color palettes that we could select colors from that way we still get new colors they make their money and we get to have our individuality

[low musk]

Seems like a good idea for a future game, but I doubt that it will be on Halo Infinite, as they seem married to the coating system

[shell wing]

I rep my Mark V (B) armor and my favourite color is purple and literally have only cadet purple as a purple for that coating. . .

I wanted like some sort of metalic purple but all we seem to really get is different shades of blue, red and grey or like coatings that have several colors that just. . are kinda eh to me

almost 2 years and i'm still stuck with cadet purple. . .

[low musk]

I like green or blue mixed with black personally, and thankfully they ahve been coming out with a fair few colors. I'm more interested as to when the HCS S1 coatings will get unlocked for people since its in the previewable sections.

What about the Voodoo one? That one is purple and gold

[shell wing]

Thats for the Mark VII core yeah?

[low musk]

Ah yes. I do hope crosscore expands on it a bit more so more of the armor coatings go on different cores

[shell wing]

yeah. . i just wish they had done a color palette model with the ability to color the individual armor pieces

that would give us as players such a huge way of expressing ourselves

Midnight and covenant frontline are really the only colorsi have really had a bit of an interest in but. . it's still just more blue

the most purple in another coating is jacknife but idk the orange techsuit is a little goofy makes me feel like a fastfood mascot or a clown or smth

[devout kite]

You get two weapon models

[clear cedar]

I feel like every time I play MCC Halo 3, my gun fires tic tacs and my enemy shoots delepleted uranium rounds with EMP function built into them

And grenades are just little m80 firecrackers while their nades are a mini nuke with a homing missle in them

[thick vault]

Cheeseburger

[clear cedar]

valid reason as to why

[undone sluice]

bro sometimes it do be like that but other times you just manage to flip it around and absolutely destroy some guys

[clear cedar]

nah, I ususally get surprised if I get a kill with a BR or something outside of Power Weapons

[paper quail]

hey guys what's up

[undone sluice]

Halo 3 is a tricky one to understand tbf, having be projectile based rather than hitscan I believe

Once you get to understand how that works that the game becomes a lot better

[undone sluice]

Bro hate on Halo 5 all you want but why does it have better visual presentation than Infinite? Like playing it feels like its the newer game compared to infinite

[potent spruce]

tru dat

[undone sluice]

everything just feels and looks crisp

[potent spruce]

if im honest i haven't even played halo 5

[undone sluice]

its good

[potent spruce]

i might finally cave in and play it after that statement

[undone sluice]

like the story is pretty eh but the MP is really unique and fun

[potent spruce]

yeah i heard bout that

[undone sluice]

don't let what other people say influence you, 100% try it out yourself

[potent spruce]

this is when gamepass comes in handy

[slow ledge]

Ehhhhh

halo 5 invasion modes fun which is pretty much what everyone played

story wise.......it a thing a guess

[grave ether]

Said while influencing someone to like what they like

But for real, halo 5 is a lot of fun and it feels/plays great

[slow ledge]

just do not touch the story mode

[grave ether]

It's better player with friends

[slow ledge]

with friends yeah

cause at least you can have fun with friends and just mess around while dealing with the story mode that is pretty much bad

like level wise and the annoying boss that keeps coming back every time

I really hated that boss even when you try playing it solo

[spare jackal]

Ok we need to get this out of the way, best song for each game in the original trilogy? I see it often disputed especially for halo 2 given how good it's OST is

The other games have good songs too but the original trilogy is most played so there would be more opinions

[slow ledge]

ODST

marty did a banger of a job when it came to the soft jazz music and somber tone of an empty city filled with enemys

[spare jackal]

Ok it's obvious I love the most especially sky line and menagerie but also the rookie songs too like deference for darkness aka rain

[grim citrus]

Because that was the game 343 wanted to make.

[slow ledge]

also better visuals we sure we looking at the same game cause I felt like I was running around with plastic toy soliders

[grim citrus]

Better visuals all around

[slow ledge]

ehhh not really even on the xbox one is kind meh like in some scenes it looks nice but in other area not so much

[spare jackal]

Imo for halo 1 is halo for halo 2 is either blow me away or reclaimer but if we're talking about original traditional martin o donnel halo music then impend, the bass thumping while killing jackals on delta halo just gives a whole vibe. And then for halo 3 it's gotta be one final effort, the covenant is easily the best mission in the game with the epic space battle and the "2 SCARABS I REPEAT 2 SCARABS!" is simply amazing with this song

[undone sluice]

hehehe

[spare jackal]

Also given from the length of each description for each game you could probably tell what my favorite halo game is

I do kinda have a bias as it's litterally the first video game I played in my life

[undone sluice]

images not allowed in here?

[grim citrus]

5 has more variety with their environments, set pieces, better distinctions between male and female Spartans

And better intro cutscene

[undone sluice]

the maps in infinite are just so bland

ignoring the palette they all have really weird layouts

and wtf did they do to Plaza from Halo 5

its just grey

[grim citrus]

And better mo cap for voices

[slow ledge]

Yet pretty visuals don't make a good game

like gameplay wise it is damn fun to play

but story wise it lacks in alot of places that really make it sad that this is apart of the halo trilogy

[undone sluice]

now that it has almost been 2 years, the MP of Halo 5 is a lot better and well polished than Infinite

I do like Infinite but there are things that bump it down for me

[slow ledge]

infinite got it's own problems that still plague it today

still annoying that I got to pay for the color BLUE!!!!

[undone sluice]

after playing a single match of Halo 5 today it really showed me how bland and lifeless infinites HUD is

[undone sluice]

yeahhhhh not the biggest fan of how the armour core and coating systems work currently

like how hard is it to do Black and Yellow, they haven't even made a paid coating for it

[grim citrus]

What 5 achieved in 6 months, infinite didn’t do in 2 years

[slow ledge]

Will say some of the armor in infinite looks nice it just suck that it trap beind a single core that I have to spend my time unlocking

[undone sluice]

God Halo 5 did good with the updates

[grim citrus]

The people that worked on that game loved that game

[undone sluice]

I feel like they just needed to build off the core of what Halo 5 did content wise, add in actual armour customization, get rid of REQs, better in-game narrative etc

[slow ledge]

while I do admit halo 5 got alot more armor style to work with 90% is still just the same armor with a different pattern on it, like halo 5 armor suffers from all looking the same and the one that do look different, weeeeeeell are very questionable an really go way to far from being what fans known spartans style

[grim citrus]

I liked req system. Had that old school approach to it

[undone sluice]

I was really excited to get a mix of the Bungie and 343 artstyles for infinite but it feels like its fallen flat

a lot of the cool Halo 5 designs kinda got kicked out or heavily reworked into almost unrecognizable pieces

[undone sluice]

I wasn't the biggest fan tbh, and I had the Warzone and Arena REQ bundles

so I got a lot of stuff from that but I feel like players who didn't would have had a real tough time getting what they wanted without grinding for long periods of time

[slow ledge]

It not really a mix it more 343 wanting to do their own halo design wise which really piss off alot of people who saw a consistent design and evolution in halo 1,2 and 3 an I get wanting to do your own thing but it was such a drastic change in the style it threw alot of people off

halo wars 2 went to try and mix both style while adding something new to the table which I think it did a good job at blending the two styles

it why infinite trys to do a hard reset an go back to the old style

[grim citrus]

But that’s the beauty of it. It boggles my mind when I see people go through battle passes in short amount of time

[undone sluice]

That is a fair way to look at it

[slow ledge]

I can explain that it cause people were so sick of loot boxes the second season passes became a thing and saw how a one time buy is all ya need and all you got to do is play the game

[undone sluice]

343 have just given out so much 2xp tokens now that you can probably grind BP up in a day or 2 if you are committed

I have 100 or so 2xp tokens and I am consistantly using them

[undone sluice]

BP are dry and stale now that literally every game with internet connection has one

hasn't even ubisoft put BP systems into single player games

[grim citrus]

I feel like this generation has gotten extremely entitled and impatient

[undone sluice]

100%

I am Gen Z and it pains me to just see how this generation is going, especially how much general negativity and impatience goes around atm

[grim citrus]

This generation doesn’t know about the midnight launch parties

Waiting in line for games

[undone sluice]

brooo even I got to experience some

[slow ledge]

The problem with season pass is now it story content that being put behind stuff and special events, when the idea was just meant to be cosmetic why but people saw how easy it was to lock so much stuff behind them and after microsft big mess up with star wars battlefront loot box no one wanted to touch them

[grim citrus]

Instant gratification era

[glossy carbon]

I like to be positive alot. Mostly because always nagging doesnt get you anywhere

[undone sluice]

last game I got at launch was BO4 because australia doesn't do much midnight releases unless its huge like TOTK

[grim citrus]

5 to me was one of the last halo game that paid tribute to the golden era of gaming

[undone sluice]

I think games just need to be more creative now, like there are some single player games that really shake it up but every MP game rn feels the same

even if its a completely different genre

[grim citrus]

Absolutely

[slow ledge]

but still I am story man who enjoys the lore and story of halo, and I got to say halo 5 story was really fumbled to say the least. Like I enjoyed the idea of master chief going rouge, a spartan hunting down the hero of humanity, an the story behind what cause him too go rouge, heck the audio story they had to promote the game was the best content ever made from that game

[grim citrus]

Didn’t for me

One of the more compelling stories ever imo

[slow ledge]

not really

4 was compelling

[glossy carbon]

4 was awesome

[grim citrus]

Never said it wasn’t

[slow ledge]

never said ya did

[undone sluice]

I feel like 2015 was a peak in gaming for the big franchises, maybe bleeding into 2016 a bit too

[grim citrus]

4 and 5 was more interesting to me over ce-3

[undone sluice]

Halo 5 and Destiny TTK was my jam bro

[undone sluice]

I never got the Halo 4 hate, its got such a great story

so much more emotion than CE-3

[grim citrus]

Because it wasn’t bungie making it

[undone sluice]

People blinded by the company fr

[glossy carbon]

the drastic artstyle change and change in sound design and multiplayer

[undone sluice]

I do love a lot of what bungie do, but man they are fumbling so hard atm, feels like they are focusing more on money than the game itself, especially with all these lawsuits

[slow ledge]

4 was where i was gonna give 343 a chance new company new game so I gave them a chance and they did a good job

[grim citrus]

That means nothing if the content is great

[slow ledge]

5 is where I felt they fumble the ball

[grim citrus]

They definitely didn’t.

[glossy carbon]

It means something if there is a certain standard over 5 previous games that the community likes

[undone sluice]

every week I read "Bungie has won a $2mil case against cheat maker [INSERT NAME HERE]", they raking in so much money from lawsuits yet increase the price of bad expansions smh

[slow ledge]

no they did again that story was bad

they did good on gameplay but did bad in story and it sadden me cause they did a good job in 4

[glossy carbon]

also halo 4 had terrible enemy designs. The promethians where just more annoying halo 2 brutes. Bullet sponges

[grim citrus]

I would inquire but I probably know your argument

[undone sluice]

From memory the story of 5 was just really jarring going between the perspectives because you didn't really want to affiliate with either side, just lean more towards chief because we know him from the previous 4 main games

[slow ledge]

My argument is that I did not enjoy the fumbled hunting the master chief story line and him going rouge

[undone sluice]

it felt like it was over before it began

[slow ledge]

then after words it kind just forgotten in favor of the big forunner machiens waking up and then shocker cortana is live

[undone sluice]

like they had one fight then Locke rescued chief and it was like nothing happened I feel

feel free to disagree with me there

[slow ledge]

runing that big death moment she had in 4

Like not gonna lie I felt for chief when cortana risk her own life to save him

[undone sluice]

then all of that is written of come halo infinite

[slow ledge]

bingo

even in infinite it was dumb to give chief a cortana like AI or the weapon as she called

like that one part of the story i just did not enjoy and wish they stuck with her death in 4

[undone sluice]

the purpose behind the weapon made sense but they definately did it more for Cortana replacement than plot reasons

[slow ledge]

also making her evil cause we need bad guy after we killed the old one in spartan ops

[grim citrus]

Perspectives. The truth concept. Nail on the head.

[slow ledge]

Lock and his team were okay

but I really did not care much for them or blue team

like It was really hard to get into anyone

[grim citrus]

Hunt the truth storyline before the game really made the game a standout.

[undone sluice]

I bloody love Master Chief but I feel like they just don't know what to do with him or the main story anymore game wise, makes me wonder how more self-contained stories would go like ODST

[slow ledge]

I think I only really enjoyed dutch but tyhat cause of my time with him in odst

[grim citrus]

This obsession with making games all about Chief is crazy

[undone sluice]

you mean Buck?

[slow ledge]

right buck

[grim citrus]

Like the halo universe is so vast and rich

[undone sluice]

didn't dutch end up being some traitor or was that mickey

[slow ledge]

That also one of my main issues with 343 now is that they are kind of stuck on the chief

[undone sluice]

I feel like people would have liked Locke more if he was done differently

[slow ledge]

which I do not blame them cause I know for a fact someone at microsoft look at them funny and said" MAKE ANOTHER HALO GAME WITH CHIEF!!!!"

[grim citrus]

I love the scene where Roland points out the obvious “this isn’t about the master chief” and nobody paying attention to him

[undone sluice]

the H2A cinematic really made him interesting but he just wasn't that great ingame tbh

[slow ledge]

an more development cause not gonna lie out of buck you hardly know any of these characters

so it kind of hard for people to get into them when the game is making it out that these character are people you should already know

[grim citrus]

You barely knew any of the characters in the original trilogy

[slow ledge]

an I know there are comic books and other media that talks about them but the avarage gamer that not a halo fan is not gonna put that much effort

[undone sluice]

also are we ever going to see Jun again or is he just relegated to the "deep lore" treatment now? Only in books, one off voice lines and lore tabs

[slow ledge]

He kind of just become a oni spook at this point

plus he retired last i check

[undone sluice]

also on Locke, you can easily make him a character people love now, like look at Raiden from MGS2, everyone back then hated him because he wasn't Solid Snake but now he is such a loved character because they developed him more etc

[slow ledge]

well that kind of never gonna happen

last I check he had a nasty run in with a brute

[grim citrus]

Arbiter in 04 was hated. Now he’s loved

[slow ledge]

who now dawns his helmet on his shoulder

[undone sluice]

exactly

I feel like the early 2000s had a knack for introducing a new main playable character in the sequel that people aren't gonna like with the exception of Roxas from KH2

[slow ledge]

I blame the writing team they kind of lost that edge

[grim citrus]

People don’t like change, but hates it when things are the same

Circle of ignorance.

[undone sluice]

paradox

[slow ledge]

it also cause you have to play it safe in these days man

[undone sluice]

can't please everyone tbh

oh hell yeah you do

things can be taken the wrong way so quick but I ain't gonna get into political agenda this is certainly not the place for it

[slow ledge]

back then it was a wild west to make new thing and hope it was good and if it was banging, but if not down stinker ya go

[grim citrus]

I honestly can’t blame the devs for not making complete games at launch

[undone sluice]

nor does it need to be heard

[slow ledge]

and with how media is now playing it safe is the best bet then trying new thing cause everytime now when something that does not play it safe ends up bad

but it also a double edge sword in the end

[grim citrus]

Imagine putting your heart into a game just for an audience to hate it without any valid reason

[undone sluice]

the demand is insane nowadays like imagine if 2077 got a few more months

[slow ledge]

cause playing it safe messes things up

[undone sluice]

yeah people just hating on something to be cool is also an issue there

[slow ledge]

welcome to the gaming industry cause here a new flesh company care more about money an are okay with giving us half bake games

and are okay with patching it later date

An fan of said half bake game will eat it up which leads us into the issue we are in now, get half bake game, they complain, patch it later, they say it great

[undone sluice]

seasonal models suck

[trail leaf]

anyone wanna play halo reach?

[undone sluice]

compare H5 to infinite rq, the updates in H5 were a lot bigger and more worth it, whereas seasons feel like they all have a specific deadline to meet and we only get main content at those deadlines

I feel like the only games I can think of off the top of my head that actually do proper midseason updates is like CoD and Fortnite rn

[slow ledge]

ehhhhh cod maybe fornite yeah

plus also do season passes right

[undone sluice]

CoD does those "Reloaded" updates that are sometimes a few guns and maps

I don't really play CoD anymore its just so lifeless

[slow ledge]

still though my issue halo 5 go more into the story and charaters and stuff I just did not enjoy that ruins what 4 layed the ground work for people

like gameplay is fun but I just can never forgive it story telling

[undone sluice]

one gripe I did have with Halo 5 was how "shiny" the forge was, you could tell in that game what was forge and what wasn't, Infinite has done a great job with tis forge

[slow ledge]

yeah not gonna lie forge kind of suck

it felt like plastic

and not the good kind the cheap kind

[grim citrus]

What did 4 lay down

[undone sluice]

yeah, I remember launch halo 5 looked real plastic like too

also did Halo 5 have one of the earliers game betas ever?

[grim citrus]

Beta released in December of 14 and the game was released I believe 9 months after

[undone sluice]

yeah aye, I remember trying to play beta in may of 2015 and I had missed it by months

silly young me

[grim citrus]

@slow ledge what was halo 4 setting up?

[slow ledge]

4 for me laydown a story for chief being more human then a machine, I rather was interest to see chief start to question who he was really, and how he will have to go on knowing cortana is no longer with him anymore.

[grim citrus]

That was not the main story for halo 4.

That was a sub plot

[slow ledge]

I never said that was main story

When I said what halo 4 lay down I am talking about where they could have gone with chief cause now you had some interesting ground work for him as a character

[left snow]

I enjoyed the H4 story.

It took the second play through to appreciate H5. Had to give it time (four years) for the pre game hype to dissipate.

But while I enjoyed H4 and H5... I wasn't looking forward to H6. The Chief / Cortana bit had run it's race. So, the reboot was welcome.

[grim citrus]

What ground work could they explore? He barely speaks?

[crystal iron]

ngl, a pre-xbox master chief armor/helmet would be really cool

[tropic agate]

Interesting.

[empty rapids]

fr how do noobies play worse than bots

[empty rapids]

bro my melees arent registering serverside

desync has never hit me this hard

[small goblet]

Well actually that was the main plot the didact was just kinda there lol

Also can we finally just get a halo game where chief and all the other Spartans finally turn on oni because man it feels overdue

[smoky oasis]

Is the world ready to discuss how bad the Ravager Rebound is?

[grim citrus]

Wrong. The mantle of responsibility was the main arc.

[fierce sundial]

beat gun in the game

[smoky oasis]

Oh okay true, sorry.

[vapid marten]

Halo 5 was probably the closest we could've gotten had the story been more akin to the prior marketing, potentially also what could've been if they had stuck to their plans.
Initially Halo 4 was meant to be the first part of a new trilogy, before it became a "saga", and Halo 5 supposed to be the darkest Halo of all of them.
Some time during development that was discarded and a new story made, only for it to also be discarded for a new story.
It's been "big threat", "Bigger threat" and "Biggest unseen teased threat yet".
Each new game handles an even bigger threat, to surpass the previous one.

[next shard]

why is basically every game i play in infinite such an insane mismatch of skill levels from one team to another

[undone sluice]

ummm because uhhh yes

[vapid marten]

I personally suspect there's a value in the Skill Range criteria which is wrong, or a part of the code isn't functioning properly.
Even with the low population, my experience has been that matches are found extremely quickly, but they're very unbalanced, rarely do I see players I've played before.
It appears the system is grabbing players with little regards to their skills and then attempt to match them so that the skill values are equal.

[undone sluice]

I need to grind Infinite so I can get better

but usually the game is bland as, Squad Battle is a good step to keeping the game fresh

[hollow bobcat]

The developers are cowards. We had everything set up for a finale after the events of Halo 5, but that was squandered within Halo Infinite's campaign. Every cool idea involving a continuation of the story was squeezed into a 5-10 minute cinematic. Nobody else returned from the previous games, making infinite feel empty.

I mentioned this before, but the master chief had to make friends with an airheaded AI and a crying housekeeper.

[sleek hatch]

@bold snow what did you work on, in 3rd gen blam!?

[bold snow]

look at my github, can't talk about it here

[undone sluice]

I get that we were meant to feel alone in infinite but there was literally no legacy characters to be seen outside of some audio logs

[minor loom]

I wonder if they’ll ever expand the infinite campaign?

[ruby knoll]

no plans currently

[mint condor]

I have "Voice Chat Channel" set to off in MCC but theres still a voice chat symbol on the screen when i talk

[glacial tartan]

Have push to talk set to On.

[mint condor]

Ok, thanks

[hollow bobcat]

You cannot expand on a campaign when nothing was there to begin with.

[minor loom]

Lmao

[vapid marten]

The Halo 4 campaign was, if I recall, said to be too "EU dependant", or whatever it was. Basically they didn't manage to explain things in the game so people were lost.
Halo 5 was supposed to continue on some theme but they made that story instead, with AI rebellion because it's easier to follow and not really EU lore dependant?
When that didn't stick because it was, all over the place with a lot of things, they opted to restart with something new again.
I did say way back that I wouldn't be surprised if i343 scrapped the new Halo 5 storyline in favor of another idea.

while I don't really like the Halo Wars 2 campaign all too much, it being too basic, the story was good and the characters it introduced were awesome.
With Halo Infinite it feels as if 343 wanted some of that action and shoehorned the Banished into the fray, it does feel forced.

"They disliked that, but likes this, let's use this then and scrap that"

[left snow]

Probably not so much with the little regards to skills... But more the little regards to form?

Could the CSR matching be making it harder for the MM?

Whereas the old fashioned MMR matching was easier. Players were dragged into the lobby based on their game to game form.

Keeping in mind that in some circumstances your MMR can be 100 to 150 (or more) points away from your CSR.

[runic slate]

Unpopular opinion but if i343 decides to keep messing up the story I'm fine with the series not only changing developers, but I'm fine with the series changing its "identity". Halo and Chief are basically one in the same, but at this point I'm fine with the story expanding in scope with newer characters.

[eternal lion]

You mean you're joining the very small familly of #KillTheChief ?

The fact that everybody think that Halo=Chief is one of the main argument ::

[velvet cosmos]

Maybe not that far, but they could always follow different Spartans (like Reach), or do another ODST-esque game.

[eternal lion]

All-the-way 😈

[runic slate]

Not necessarily kill the Chief, but making someone else the main character

[eternal lion]

Or not making any main character 🙂 That would be for the best for everyone : developpers, writters and fans

[runic slate]

So like an anthology? I would like that as well.

[eternal lion]

No, why an anthology ?

[runic slate]

You said "or not making any main characters". I took that as not having a central main character like chief. Anthology may be the wrong word to use in this regard, but it should make sense lol

[eternal lion]

It would still be following a story across games and other media. But without only 1 main character stealing all the possibilities.
But an anthology is supposed to have only a thematic tie (or an universe sometime)

[velvet cosmos]

What purpose would killing off Chief do, exactly? If it makes sense for the story, that’s one thing. But killing him off for the sake of changing the franchise isn’t exactly a smart move.

[eternal lion]

And those games (other media already does that) could be practice for Slipspace engine

[eternal lion]

-> purge once and for all toxic fans
-> a real change in Halo
-> having other point of reference then John/chief

-> limitating at the maximum any nostalgia

[velvet cosmos]

That can be done without killing him off. Look at Reach and ODST: Chief was not involved in those games, yet they were fan favorites. Regarding eliminating nostalgia: how would that benefit the franchise? The reason people return to a franchise is because a piece of the nostalgia is saved. Could be a weapon, a texture, background or main character, or a reference. If killing off a character makes sense in the story, then do so. That’s my take, at least.

[coarse dagger]

https://vxtwitter.com/Halo/status/1680245881759490048?t=lh-29irK2Qj4Jl7fv3ZOkg&s=19

[eternal lion]

If it could be possible, sure just letting him on the side BUT, the toxics and the nostalgics would want and "demand" his return all-the-time. So killing him is a way to stop this (even if he could come back in a game before his death)
Nostalgia is a venom, it stop progress and creation

[velvet cosmos]

Who says you have to listen to those mouth breathers? Also, killing Chief wouldn’t stop them. “We want him back” will still be present, and they will try demanding prequel games or other ways to follow Chief’s story. Too much nostalgia is bad, I agree. But for games, having some nostalgia is what brings people back.

[runic slate]

In a perfect world I would want both. Without a central figure like chief we would be able to get more side games that wouldn't have to connect to the mainline games

[eternal lion]

Who 343 ... we got Halo 5 because of this and Infinite because of this... (and i liked Halo 5)

[velvet cosmos]

I understand that.

[eternal lion]

But to have this outcome we must push for more extreme mesure, time to time 🙂 Without insulting, just arguments and bebates

[runic slate]

I think a mass effect style halo would be nice. Not talking in terms of gameplay or story, but in terms of the galactic community, and exploration that those games have.

[tardy pawn]

Still have not been able to play mcc since the recent update

[runic slate]

As for Chief dying, I wouldn't be against it but I don't think it's necessary. Imo I think he should finish his journey of becoming "human" with Cortana 2.0 with that being his exit out of the story.

[eternal lion]

Could be good too yes. Don't really know what storywise we are going :/

[velvet cosmos]

The way I see it: 343 made a poor decision in continuing the “Main Story” in 5 and Infinite. They want to milk it until the series fails, like most greedy businesses seem to do. Halo 4 felt like a solid ending to the series for me. There are other aspects of the Halo universe that people would love to see: early Covenant contact, ODST/UNSC marine focused stories, space battles. These are just my thoughts, so I could be far off. I just don’t see killing off a character to silence the annoying fans being beneficial for the franchise.

[eternal lion]

Halo 5 and Cortana's story is logical to her whole story. She is supposed to become evil. And doing this should have but John in a place where he would have become more human and have response to "are you a machine ?" But we didn't got that in 5 and clearly not in Infinite...

[onyx rover]

Death is no stranger for people in halo universe tho

Chief should die but guess it could be better

[eternal lion]

Don't think it was for "milking" ... Bad decision yes. But again : "to please fans" ... because the fans wanted more Chief, less promothean etc. So they spoiled the mystery of Halo 5 in the second mission to get a Chief mission there...

[onyx rover]

Yeah the fans are part of what ruined the story in games, they hated even playing arbiter in halo 2 which had good story building.

[velvet cosmos]

Why is she meant to be evil? Why couldn’t her sacrifice at the end of 4 have been the end of it? We saw him showing humanity during 4 when he tried to save her from rampancy. That’s my opinion, anyway. If Chief is to die, it should make sense. The loud fans should be ones that both 343 and the Halo community ignore in regards to where the story should go.

[eternal lion]

Why is she meant to be evil? -> its all in the books + Halo 3...

[celest heron]

5 continued the story. Infinite was cleaning up the mess and trying to move it in another direction.

[eternal lion]

Because in the end she is just Halsey++ too

[onyx rover]

So the grunts are literal suicide bombers from the brainwashing the prophets do to them but get scared when they see chief sometimes and start running? Lol.

Guess faith is stronger in some than others lol 😆

[velvet cosmos]

I see your point. Still, seems like Halo 4 would have been a good end to the story.

[eternal lion]

5 clossed a lot of story too
But saying 5 was "a mess"...

[eternal lion]

I could have been yes. But how would John advance in the research of humanity ? Probably why, 343 went for going for her original story (in HCE/H2)

[onyx rover]

Wait what does halo 3 show about Cortana going rogue?

[eternal lion]

All Cortana level.

[velvet cosmos]

I mean, that would have been a prime way to shift focus. For instance: John is unable to continue in the research of humanity, so someone else is passed the torch to do so.

[eternal lion]

Who could find the humanity in John if not John himself ? His familly ?

[runic slate]

I don't think she had to turn evil but I think she needed to dissappear in a way that would lead to Chief trying to find her. I also don't think that it would logically make sense for Chiefs journey to have been finished with just her. I feel like Cortana 2.0 is perfect because she personifies the opposite of Cortana. Cortana was very adult like both in speech and in figure, but more importantly her relationship with Chief was romantic. Cortana 2.0 on the other hand personifies the youthfull and in a way kid like emotions in human. Chief following Cortana makes sense because his relationship with her was a romantic one hence the obsession. This is a feeling that he has only had with one person and he struggles to cope with it. And to me this is where Cortana 2.0 comes on. She comes in to show Chief that there is more to life than just what he has had, because children see the world in a more colorful and optimistic light. Not saying that 2.0 is a child, but I feel like 2.0 would do a lot better in teaching Chief how to actually embrace Humanity as a species, whereas Cortana taught Chief how to find the humanity within himself.

[celest heron]

they'll have to pass the torch eventually if they keep going, but I think it should be gradual instead of one game

[eternal lion]

Maybe, why not (just not on Cortana being in a romantic relationship)

[eternal lion]

you mean like a trilogy, 4,5,6 ? 🥲

[celest heron]

job security right there

[runic slate]

Romantic isn't the right word but. I would say that their relationship was romantic for a spartan lol.

[velvet cosmos]

I feel like 4 showed that humanity. He showed care and concern for Cortana’s rampancy, even disobeying orders to try and save her. If he didn’t have that humanity, I think he wouldn’t have questioned the orders to that extent. Also, John may not have a biological family to pass the torch to, but there is his fireteam.

[onyx rover]

Can we get halo anime?

[runic slate]

Legends?

[onyx rover]

What's that

[velvet cosmos]

I miss Legends. I want to see more of that.

[runic slate]

Halo legends is basically anime halo

[onyx rover]

Oh didn't know it existed

[eternal lion]

Ok, i see and aggree with that.
And of course i'm talking about blue team as his family.

Needed just 5 to fully embraced it ? And 6 to see theses limits (and die/give up the main character) ?

[runic slate]

I think with Chief and the struggles with his humanity i feel like its isolated, and for a spartan like him that can be the biggest hurdle in having him actually embrace others. Because he has deep bonds with blue teams and basically other 2's, but I wouldn't necceseilly say that this goes in helping him connect to other outside of it. Hence the 2.0 being the one to help actually embrace the wider humanity this completing his journey.

[velvet cosmos]

If they set it up that way, sure. Unfortunately, while 5 embraced it, it also left a cliffhanger to indicate an AI vs humanity conflict. Halo Infinite didn’t seem to follow that path, and instead veered into a totally different way, shifting from any sort of heavy impact on “finding humanity”. Infinite seems to still give hope that Cortana can be saved, or that The Weapon will face Cortana. Seems nonsensical to me, but I’m just a casual fan, so what do I know?

[runic slate]

Nah Cortana is gone, the only way she comes back is if they pull it out of nowhere

[eternal lion]

Agree with what you're saying ."Infinite seems to still give hope that Cortana can be saved," -> worse thing Infinite did, saying she could be saved and forgiven after what she done...

[runic slate]

They just need to scrap the story, because the moment they had to scrap 3/4 of it was the moment they should have realized that it would never be good, also............Anders anyone?

[velvet cosmos]

That’s why I was contempt with how 4 ended. She was going through Rampancy, trying to save herself, but eventually sacrificed herself to save John and allow him the chance to move on. Bringing her back in 5 seemed to be the problematic linchpin to me.

[eternal lion]

shuuut it never happened 🙂

[ruby knoll]

unfortunately the man behind legends is no longer with 343

[velvet cosmos]

I know, but I can dream.

[ruby knoll]

do you know who i'm referring to

[velvet cosmos]

O’Connor, right?

[runic slate]

Honestly with the Activision acquisition I wouldn't mind a Cod style game that takes place during the interplanetary wars

[ruby knoll]

finally someone who actually knows the deeplore

[velvet cosmos]

I wouldn’t go that far. I just know he worked on Legends and the Halo films.

[runic slate]

Yall think they're gonna retcon Reach being a populated colony by 2610?

[eternal lion]

they never said by how many people 🙂 it could be 1 000 people

[runic slate]

My issue is with them actually being able to colonize it again if the Endless is supposed to be some big baddy because of Humanity is in a bad state now, I can only imagine what the Endlesa is going to do.

[eternal lion]

but the Endless for now are only on Installation 07 and 2610 is still 10 years later

[runic slate]

Honestly I want to say that with the Endless being this huge threat that they must spread out, but with 343 idek anymore.

[vapid marten]

I mean, we are literally having brand new accounts with literal zero gameplay experience being thrown into matches with Diamond and above players.
We don't have much of a search time, and changing from global to local doesn't seem to affect it.
Was told Quick Play is not the place to "determine skill" or whatever, making me assume other playlists would be better, but so far Team Slayer and the new Squad playlist all yield the same result.

If it's working as intended, then the intention is in my opinion poorly thought out.
Under the other working assumption, not as intended, then either some values are wrong in the code, or not working as intended, if it's even working to begin with.

[vapid marten]

Chances are, they're implied to be a massive mega threat in Infinite, they don't know where to take it and it'll be resolved in some manner for a new threat to test out in Halo ( 7 ).

[velvet cosmos]

Maybe, but I kind of hope not.

[wanton root]

makes me want animated nameplates in infinite man

[autumn pasture]

wow. Team killing seems to be the new thing in Halo Infinite when you play custom games. Takes away the fun.

[devout kite]

Can 343 make rank solo friendly like come on I’m tried of seeing a stack team

Or make it so that if you’re a stack you face against another stack team

[grim citrus]

We got some of chiefs humanity in the ending

[grim citrus]

Bringing her back was necessary. It continued the sub plot of the man abs the machine and it breathes new life in both cortana and Chief

[velvet cosmos]

It didn’t seem necessary to me, but that’s just my opinion.

[grim citrus]

Well that’s your opinion.

[velvet cosmos]

If you see it as necessary, more power to you.

[grim citrus]

Cool.

[severe hill]

Bring back warzone

[eternal lion]

You came to this discord just to demand that ?

[severe hill]

I’ve been in the discord

[zenith heart]

When is the new Tenrai event beginning?

[glossy carbon]

next tuesday

[narrow agate]

does anyone know if the second digsite blog was released yesterday or did i miss it?

[eternal lion]

it was

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/digsite-discoveries

[eternal lion]

You joined today

[quasi finch]

There’s a dude in my last match that got 11 ninjas and is platinum sergeant grade 2

How is he in a silver lobby?

[velvet cosmos]

Teamed with a silver account?

[quasi finch]

Prob

He was a clan kid

I don’t like clans cause the skill gap is so big that they could just use a copper player to get in a copper lobby

I’m making it my mission to break clans

That sounded a bit cheesy

But I dont care cause clans are cheesier

[analog salmon]

So I got round to checking and the performance toggle is actually FSR on console too

You can improve performance on One X by setting FSR to any of the presets

Even the “performance” preset is not perfect though

But it’s a lot better

As far as I know the target resolution is 2160p on both Series X and One X thus “Quality” = 1440p and “Performance” = 1080p

[exotic vigil]

Dude awesome thank you

[analog salmon]

I would recommend going all the way down to performance because it doesn’t look too bad and unless you have VRR, you really want as close to 60 as possible

[analog salmon]

Like I say though it’s not perfect so don’t set your expectations too high

[exotic vigil]

Improvement is improvement especially when framerates drop to below 30

[analog salmon]

Yeah Metropolis was literally unplayable before and now I think the stuttering is probably manageable

Also worth experimenting with the fsr toggle for other games if they stutter

[exotic vigil]

Yeah its definitely in a playable state now

The start of delta halo was especially bad

[quasi finch]

Me and my friend beat him

He got 12 ninjas that time

But we beat him

[glossy carbon]

what? Elaborate

[analog salmon]

sounds like its some content creator using an alt to just goof around for clips tbh

there's a line between having an alt account you play less serious on and making new accounts to smurf into lower skill lobbies though

hopefully its the former and not the latter

or they're just using their main account and decided they just wanna goof around constantly in ranked, who knows

[sharp summit]

bro why is halo infinite using 100% GPU

the moment i exit halo its back down to 0%

[analog salmon]

the long story short is because they want the menu to look pretty

i hope a menu FPS cap is in the works

[sharp summit]

bro my gpu

[analog salmon]

i would honestly just take a forced 60fps lock in menu like mcc over nothing. people would complain if they cant turn it off but its more annoying having ur GPU at 100%

[glossy carbon]

there are alot of things from mcc that would benefit infinite

like the matchmaking system around playlists

[analog salmon]

post game lobby to say gg to the other team

one can dream

[glossy carbon]

ye

the emblem maker

[next shard]

i love when i go 14-7 and the second best person on my team goes 6-12

[signal ivy]

why do you love that? seems like that would be frustrating

[next shard]

love is complicated

[sharp summit]

i needed a headphone stand so i have less stuff on my desk so i just stuck a bolt in a hole in the wall

works great

[analog salmon]

if you havent got one a monitor arm is super nice

and even a cheap one will hold your monitor no problem

i would probs get something decent to be able to adjust the stand easier if you can. i have to fight mine to get it level after i move it lol

[full warren]

two of my teammates quit when it was 40 (us) vs 26(them), we were winning but they still quit beause they were 0/9 and 1/10 lol, this is a perfect example of why noobs should not be put into just any game. They hated it so much that they didn't even want the free win they just quit

[wraith willow]

huh, for the first time ever, xcloud is actually playable on my internet

[low musk]

Had a pretty fun game of Total Control that ultimately ended in a tie. Both sides actually pushed hard. Our team had the advantage where we got the first two points. The other team pushed back after getting a couple of Scorpion tanks and dominated for the next two. Then it ended up just going to a stalemate after rounds of taking each other's control sections till it ended in a tie

[crystal iron]

h

[narrow agate]

my clans arent on halo anymore, so come on over to Insurgency Sandstorm or Battlebit Remastered and try break our Clans lol

Sandstorm has 100+ Members

Battlebit has 35+ Members

we got a whole Social Branch of 180+ Members.

with 300+ members we are doing decent.

[quasi finch]

I was talking about halo

Hence me typing in a halo discord server

I completely forgot about insurgence sandstorm

And im still making it my mission on halo

[undone sluice]

Anyone remember in Halo 5 when you could get that set from Clan activities?

Most clans just became a job with the requirements they had stg

[quasi finch]

Achilles?

[undone sluice]

yeah I think that was the one

[quasi finch]

Yeah

[undone sluice]

I get it was a hassle to get but man like 3 or so years ago I could not find a clan that didn't have like "Must play 30 hours a week, 3 hours daily..."

[white birch]

People realized real life was a thing and spending that much time on a video game got boring real fast

[dark wing]

[ruby knoll]

something something reach inheritor something haunted pilot

[real urchin]

Did they change matchmaking for the Squad Battle playlist in Infinite? It seems worse than usual... like major blowout wins for one team or the other.

[dull cave]

Just started playing Halo 5 again, and I can't stop thinking about how fun it would be if we had this on PC where I can actually aim at people

Sadly no one plays Halo 5 Forge

And also it kind of feels like more people play Halo 5 than Infinite

[ruby knoll]

wut

[dull cave]

Idk

[lusty wraith]

I like squad battle, but just frankly, it’s too easy to dominate if you’re good at the game

The matches that are close have been some of the most fun I’ve had in Infinite though

[real urchin]

It's probably more the fact that the player population is so low thus the chances of running into really good/hardcore players is higher

[noble urchin]

that is so far from the truth lol

[quasi finch]

Fr and the leader was always either a 9 yo or someone living in their parents basement with little to no interaction with the outside world

[undone sluice]

legittt

[undone sluice]

was finding warzone matches instantly in australia

whereas infinite it takes a few minutes in the most populated playlists

[dull cave]

It just feels that way

There's far more custom lobbies with more players and finding slayer lobbies is almost instant still

[quasi finch]

Not for me

It took forever

And custom browsers are dead af

Sad bc I loved aliens, night of the mantis, duck hunt, speed halo, etc

[undone sluice]

customs were so loaded but I feel like everyone got sick of the same maps

[grim citrus]

I remember the days where people said that custom browser and forge will make infinite better

[undone sluice]

yeah aye

the forge and customs is good but I just don't think the motivation is there

[winter wren]

343 needs to optimize infinite soo badly

[quasi finch]

Fr

Just please make a coating creator or smthn that allows you to use the colors from coatings you earned or purchased to make your own personalized coating bc quite frankly the variety in infinite is not there and I stumble upon doppelgängers a lot and it would save 343 effort.

[smoky stone]

I really wish Ranked Slayer had AR/BR starts...or at least AR/Pistol. That DMR is trash.

[crystal iron]

the dmr is good, you just gotta learn how to use it lol

[white birch]

I'll pass, thanks.
I dont trust the community to make anything but cringe and bland choices.

Also BR starts is literally just normal Ranked.

[smoky stone]

I know how to use it, it's just slow and boring

[white birch]

And the BR has a lot more bullet magnetism and more range so

[crystal iron]

eh, I find it fun

[dull cave]

Do yall think we'll ever see a halo Infinite DLC?

[crystal iron]

I have no hope

[smoky stone]

what does that even mean? There'

there are new maps made all the time with the seasonal updates

DLC is a thing of the past now. Seasonal content is the new thing.

[crystal iron]

campaign DLC

[smoky stone]

I think the original DMR was much better designed. This new one is just slow and doesn't feel right in the entire scope of the weapon sandbox. Either rate of fire needs to be increased, not pistol speed, but definitely should fire as fast as I can pull the trigger/click mouse.

the recoil to me is okay, but it's really about the rate of fire, it's slow

[dull cave]

Campaign DLC. What was promised to continue the story of Halo Infinites lonely story so far

[smoky stone]

Haven't even gotten past the first on Halo ring mission lol...the one right after coming out of space. 😉

[grim citrus]

Because the game is bland, outdated and boring

[smoky stone]

this is just my opinion, but custom game browsers in games have always been garbage. Reason I say this is because there are FAR too many hosts that create non-vanilla rules and then create "house" rules, and it just makes for a bland gaming experience. The reason people wanted custom games in Halo was because long ago, Bungie hated esports, and hated any kind of competitive halo, and made some really garbage game modes in the matchmaking playlists. People just wanted to play CORE halo and so they thought custom games would be the answer...

[white birch]

Well THATS a take.

[smoky stone]

fast fwd to today, unless you're looking to just play goofy halo, what's the point of the custom game browser? What are you not getting from the matchmaking options that you need a custom game browser?

[smoky stone]

I'm 43, been playing Halo since day one of CE in 2001.

Battlefield has the same exact issues

[white birch]

In truth your not wrong.
I stopped having fun in most of em after it boiled down to the same standards and then got overloaded with clan "social" lobbies where no one DOES anything.

H5s server browser was LOADED with em, couldnt even find a normal slayer game towards the end.

[smoky stone]

no one plays on their lame custom game browser, the old days of people buying servers and hosting games, it's over, while I respect those who want to play creative modes in games, most people just want to play the base game within its ruleset.

[smoky stone]

https://tenor.com/view/there-it-is-well-there-it-is-gif-8569483

another problem with Halo is the generational gap with ages. I was 21 when this game came out in 2001, so naturally my opinions of the game and biases are going to lean more toward those experiences in the older Halos. After Halo 2, the series became garbage. Infinite has brought back some of that H2/CE gameplay core. Most people though who didn't play H2 and CE aren't ever going to understand that.

[white birch]

Noticed that too honestly

[grim citrus]

What was H2/CE core? Because idk where infinite comes into this

[smoky stone]

did you play H2 and cE?

[grim citrus]

Yes. I’m 32.

There’s nothing in CE and 2 that I see in infinite

Outside of the halo mission

In CE

[smoky stone]

so I think they tried to integrate the CE style Pistol, it's fast, it can kill quickly, and it has a higher rate of fire than the CE pistol, but it's more about the default weapon starting set for reg team slayer in infinite, you have an AR/pistol, a viable set of weapons to defend yourself with at most ranges, prior to Infinite, the other Halo games didn't do this, it always took some "hardcore" mode to create a stable fair starting weapon set.

im talking multiplayer sorry

everything I'm saying is to do with multiplayer, not campaign

[grim citrus]

I disagree with the pistol comment.

Also the sandbox resembles more halo 3

With equipment

Halo CE and 2 was all about power ups and power weapons

[smoky stone]

what playlists do you primarily play in infinite?

I strictly play Slayer and Ranked Arena

[grim citrus]

Same

And ranked survivors

But I haven’t played infinite like that in years

[dull cave]

lmaoo

I finished the whole campaign

I'm so useless

Only halo games I haven't played are ODST and CE

[grim citrus]

Halo 5 is the closest halo as been to CE-2 core gameplay.

1. Emphasis on map control with power weapons/Power ups
2. Weapons are the main driving point of the sandbox
3. AR/Pistol is universally the starting weapons throughout the entire game (not BR)
4. Evolution on the Halo Triangle (guns-melee-grenades)
5. Overall balance of Casual and Competitive. 5 has probably one the best Casual modes since Reach

[dull cave]

You're forgetting about ground pound, boost, climbing, sprint, and the overpowered pistol

[grim citrus]

…

[dull cave]

What

[grim citrus]

Nothing man.

[glossy carbon]

i disagree respectfully

[grim citrus]

Create a counter argument.

[dull cave]

This

[glossy carbon]

halo 5 is in many ways NOTHING like ce and 2.

movent Speed
movement abilities
map design
weapon balance
and ui and artistic changes

halo 3 is most like ce and 2

[dull cave]

Core gameplay though, but still works

[grim citrus]

Halo 3 abandoned halo ce-2 style with equipment, and the BR

[glossy carbon]

halo 5 didn't do it any better

[grim citrus]

How did it not?

[glossy carbon]

my brother in Christ the movement abilities

doesn't 5 also have equipment

[dull cave]

This msg!!

[grim citrus]

Movement abilities Is an evolution of the strafe. Ground pound/Spartan charge are the evolution of the melee, and variations of grenades are the evolution of the grenade system.

[dull cave]

Bro what are you on

[glossy carbon]

again i disagree respectfully

[dull cave]

It's a completely different game basically

Halo 3 was closer to CE and 2 compared to 5

[grim citrus]

You’re entitled to your opinion.

[dull cave]

you're right but yours doesn't make any sense no matter how hard I think about it

[smoky oasis]

It actually makes a lot of sense, and I agree.

[dull cave]

Hmm...

[grim citrus]

Your knowledge on halo isn’t the best.

[dull cave]

I've played Halo 2, and 5

[grim citrus]

My point.

[dull cave]

Halo 5 is a completely different game (multiplayer). It's a completely different game with a halo title

[dull cave]

I've played every game besides CE and ODST. I said 2 and 5 relevant to the conversation.

[grim citrus]

Cool.

[autumn pasture]

Everyone can have a different opinion on this matter. Let´s all respect each other´s different opinion-beliefs.

[grim citrus]

Anyways.

[dull cave]

Yeah but I also want to know what makes him think that way

Because I have a totally different view and I want to understand

[grim citrus]

I clearly mapped it out for you. If that was too difficult for you to understand then it sounds like a you problem.

[autumn pasture]

usually when they don´t give you an answer, they might not know what they´re talking about💀

[dull cave]

Yeah maybe

[lusty wraith]

Anyone here try CE mp after the recent update?

[dull cave]

I've read all the messages that you've sent and I think the problem is on your part for not explaining it well enough

[smoky oasis]

Didn't you just say we should respect each other's opinions, and then you imply they don't know what they're talking about?

[grim citrus]

You said halo 5 has an over powered pistol problem. You clearly haven’t played CE and its CE pistol was a 3 shot kill weapon.

[dull cave]

Well a clear answer wasn't given

[dull cave]

Ok whatever forget the pistol, but the spartan abilities make it a completely different game from CE and 2

[grim citrus]

So why am I’m going to expect you to know what you’re talking about l?

By that logic, 2 is a completely different game from CE because it abandoned health packs, added more precision weapons, duel wield, vehicle highjacking and melee weapons.

[dull cave]

I've played CE 4 times so I get the jist of it but not enough to say I play it regularly. You also talked about Halo 2 which I play regularly

[autumn pasture]

I did. Doesn't change anything

[grim citrus]

Adding a feature to a game doesn’t change the game

[lusty wraith]

I think 2 is significantly different to CE in that they actually figured out how to do Halo mp, I say this as someone who loves CE mp to death btw

[grim citrus]

Your logic is extremely flawed.

[smoky oasis]

It does. What I'm saying is to chill with the passive-aggressiveness.

[dull cave]

No, that is an upgrade. You're saying that spartan abilities are an upgrade from CE which is just untrue, it's a totally new game mechanic which makes it completely different from CE. Halo 2 makes additions to what was added to CE, not creating a whole new way of playing the game

[grim citrus]

Stop special pleading.

[dull cave]

???

[grim citrus]

You can’t say one is an upgrade but the other is a change.

Stay consistent with your logic.

[dull cave]

Because one is a change. Halo 2 keeps the basics of CE and makes additions to it. Halo 5 changes the way you play the game entirely

[grim citrus]

You play 5 the same way you play CE; have map control and map awareness.

NO it doesn’t… are you serious right now?

[dull cave]

Right but I have boosts, sprint, ground pound, and I can climb ledges now

[smoky oasis]

I don't think you guys are going to see eye to eye on this lol.

[grim citrus]

… what?

[grim citrus]

He’s clearly not seeing his hypocrisy.

[dull cave]

I'm arguing with a Halo 5 defender so I don't think so

[dull cave]

Have you ever played Halo 5?

[smoky oasis]

Nothing wrong with defending Halo 5, it's a fantastic game.

[grim citrus]

You play halo 5 the same way you play CE AND 2.

[lusty wraith]

Guys there ain’t an end goal to this argument, just leave it

[grim citrus]

Control the power weapons, hot spots, spawns and power ups,

[dull cave]

It is indeed a great game, but the people defending it say weird stuff at times

[grim citrus]

That’s literally in the intro of every map.

[smoky oasis]

What he's saying isn't weird. I just think you guys are on two different pages when it comes to multiplayer philosophy.

[dull cave]

Do you think Halo 4 is an upgrade from Reach (multiplayer)

[smoky oasis]

And I'm cool if you guys wanna keep talking about it, just be civil is all. 🙂

[dull cave]

Thanks

[grim citrus]

Explain to me the differences on how you play halo 5 compared to CE.

[lusty wraith]

My opinion correct, all others incorrect, as long as we all agree on this 👍 👍

[dull cave]

I can sprint (move quicker) across the maps, I can climb edges and potentially save myself from falling off the map, I have ground pound which I can use to almost 1 hit players from the air, I have aim assist by jumping on the air and zooming in and the jet packs hold me in the air to stabilize my shots for a few seconds, I have boost to dodge attacks quickly and move quicker across the map, I have OVER SHIELD which gives me double the amount of shields, and I have SPRINT HIT which lets me hit players from sprint which basically removes your shields or 1 hit kills you from the back, and ASSASSINATIONS which are basically 1 hit K.O.

[grim citrus]

So yet again you’re using the added features argument. If you are going to use that argument, halo 2 doesn’t play like a halo game because you can duel wield, hijack vehicles, button combo people, regeneration without health packs, strafe faster, movement is less floaty… I can continue.

[dull cave]

I want to hear in one paragraph how Halo 5 and Halo CE are similar

[grim citrus]

And if halo 2 doesn’t play like halo CE, then 3, Reach, ODST, 4, 5 and infinite doesn’t play like halo

[glossy carbon]

the argument for what feels like halo was always stupid. they all play different. cope

[grim citrus]

Halo has evolved with each iteration as I stated where every game adds things to the sandbox.

[dull cave]

Halo can definitely make improvements to their multiplayer system overtime, but with the addition of sprint and ground pound and such it changes the games familiarity making it feel like a different game

[grim citrus]

I already stated my argument above. You dismissed it. I’m not stating it again.

[dull cave]

So then can you explain how Halo CE and Halo 5 play similarly

[grim citrus]

EVERY halo game plays differently, why is that so hard for you to understand?

[dull cave]

(1 paragraph)

[grim citrus]

Halo 5 is the closest halo as been to CE-2 core gameplay.

1. Emphasis on map control with power weapons/Power ups
2. Weapons are the main driving point of the sandbox
3. AR/Pistol is universally the starting weapons throughout the entire game (not BR)
4. Evolution on the Halo Triangle (guns-melee-grenades)
5. Overall balance of Casual and Competitive. 5 has probably one the best Casual modes since Reach

Note that I said CORE gameplay and not features

[dull cave]

And gameplay mechanics also are a part of core gameplay

Halo 5's is completely different

[grim citrus]

No it isn’t because gameplay mechanics and subjected to change with every iteration.

[dull cave]

I don't know how to explain this but you should know how Halo 5 plays differently to CE

[grim citrus]

My god man.

[dull cave]

I don't understand anything you're saying no matter how hard I think about it

You're skipping a huge part and calling it similar

[grim citrus]

Let me ask you a question; do you think halo reach plays like a halo game?

[dull cave]

Sprint alone makes a huge difference from current Halo to CE

[dull cave]

Yes

[grim citrus]

Argument over.

[dull cave]

Oh my gosh

I don't understand you

Halo reach is different from CE but it maintains a lot for it to feel like a Halo game

[grim citrus]

You’re argument is so incredibly inconsistent it’s not even funny.

[dull cave]

Sprint in that game was like an ability, not a given at all times feature

[dull cave]

Your argument makes absolutely 0 sense it's mind boggling

[grim citrus]

Absolutely man. You have a good night.

[dull cave]

I feel pretty consistent with what I'm saying, but you're on a consistency level where it's just stubbornness not consistency

[grim citrus]

Don’t ever talk to me about halo again.

[dull cave]

I don't even know who you are

You haven't read the full conversation

Read the room

It's not about if Halo 5 is a good game or not, it's a great game. We're talking about whether Halo 5 plays like CE or not

[autumn pasture]

deleted messages👀

[tepid latch]

Yeah, just me, wasnt relevant to the convo

[autumn pasture]

My take on this is that I think this is a rather odd discussion. Both games are vastly different. lol.

[dull cave]

It's alright, seem as if his standpoints changed. Because looking back on his chat history he's said that Vale, Tanaka, and Buck have more character development than the OG halo characters ☠️

☠️

Then lists blue team and Osiris character descriptions from the internet

[grim citrus]

You don’t know when to stop. I have 10 minutes of dialogue that is in the game that gives you more insight to every member of Osiris in one game than majority of the characters in the OG trilogy.

But continue to showcase your lack of knowledge of the halo universe.

[smoky oasis]

Yeah, I think this conversation has run its course.

[tepid latch]

i give it a day

[undone sluice]

Yeah but here is a real question

how am I feeling better on K&M on infinite than controller

I am so confused, I barely play PC

[vapid marten]

Aiming in Infinite with controller feels different than previous games, and probably other games as well.
I couldn't play to save my life with Controller in MP, didn't get much better after completing the campaign on legendary.
K&M puts more precision and controll in the player's hand when aiming, to some extent, atleast how it feels like to me.

[vapid marten]

I'm tempted to start it again, because there's a lot of juicy stuff in there.

[undone sluice]

yeah I have heard a few people say that lately

like when infinite came out I was quite good for my standards

stable 1.5KD+ but now I feel absolutely doodoo

[true epoch]

What’s wrong with infinite??? I either get games with a very high ping or I get frame drops. I haven’t got a stable game in week.🤬🤬🤬🤬

[smoky oasis]

Using a controller on PC has been an issue for me. Sometimes the autoaim seems to turn off entirely, other times it works just fine. I stick to console because of it.

[dull hamlet]

does anyone know how to make your ark survival evolved dinosaurs max level 150, instead of 120, in host non - dedicated?

[smoky oasis]

Halo discussion here, friend.

[glossy carbon]

sir this is a halo channel

[undone sluice]

Controller on console is weird feeling on infinite

[dull hamlet]

i thought the halo lore might explain it

sorry

[crystal iron]

So what do you guys think the lat armor core will be, 20, 30 cores?

[sleek hatch]

Are you on steam or xbox app?

[smoky oasis]

I've tried both. I know if I'm on the Xbox app I need to make sure Steam isn't running at all.

[sleek hatch]

^ I prefer Xbox app over steam.

[smoky oasis]

I really want Infinite to work on PC for me since it looks so good there.

[glossy carbon]

you sir are missing out

steam is in every way superior. microsoft just wants to shove it down our behinds

[sleek hatch]

No, whenever I play on steam it crashes. I'll load a game and it crashes before I even load in. I lost 300 csr from it.

I did a lot of different things to try and fix it as I bought the campaign on steam, but I can't even play that without it crashing.

So if you can fix it I will gladly switch, but for know xbox app lol.

[glossy carbon]

steam works perfectly fine

ive been playing for 470 hours on it

that is most likely a you issue and not a steam issue

[sleek hatch]

It is, I've done sfc scannow, tried different drivers, uninstall-reinstall, steam scan, last thing I tried was full reset on pc and that didn't even work.

And I've heard of others that can't play certain maps on steam but Xbox app it works perfectly fine. I want steam to work so I think the issue is how the game is optimized and certain pc specs "communicate" with data.

It's only with people who have nvida and ryzen pcs

[glossy carbon]

i run a ryzen cpu and a nvidia graphics card so wheres the consistancy

i never heard from anyone that the platform you play it on matters when it comes to performance. I heard from desync and crashes regardless of platform

[sleek hatch]

Idk man, I'm not trying to diss steam, it just doesn't work for me.
I will legit screen record me re-downloading halo on steam, load up, and we can see if it crashes?

I

[glossy carbon]

try it

when was the last time you played on steam

if there was a new season they may have fixed it

[sleek hatch]

I'll try it again tonight, and I will get back with you. I really hope it works man.

[crystal iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/G57yFEB7PbE?feature=share4

Now this is a good take

[glossy carbon]

beautiful

also

38 kills on lifefire control points.

Butlr: This beauty... I can't find the words to express it...

[crystal iron]

This Exo Primal game is possible one of the dumbest designed games ever... It didn't give us the dinosaur we needed to actually progress in the wargames so we lost.

And overall the game oxe seems rather unfair almost giving the other teams an advantage...

If it wasn't on gMepass I wouldn't even bother with it.

I would not recommend paying money for this game

[sharp summit]

what temp does your GPU run at when playing halo

mines 80 C

[narrow agate]

add a few zeroes to that for mine

[crystal iron]

beat reach yesterday in one session

on heroic

god that one mission was the death of me

[olive brook]

which mission

[crystal iron]

i forgot the name but youre returning to sword base

The package i think

[olive brook]

the package

oh yeah

[crystal iron]

when you get ambushed by 3 ghosts and that 1 platform is easy

but theres a plasma turret, that tank thing and a normal turret

[olive brook]

i had a bit of trouble with it on legendary until i realized i could steal the banshees during the firefight part

[crystal iron]

i stole that tank thing

but after engaging the ghosts it made it slower and most of the time i would blow up from 1 plasma hitting me

but after like 10 tries i somehow sniped them all and passed

rest of the game was easy

[olive brook]

i always find myself struggling with long night of solace

[crystal iron]

Oh yeah that was difficult in space

[olive brook]

always makes me so dizzy flying in space

[crystal iron]

litteraly and im also on kbm

But inside of the ship wasnt so hard

[hollow bobcat]

After playing Halo 2 escalation, I realized something interesting. Dual-wielding was never a good thing.

It looked cool at the time. The problem was that it just made weapons by themselves worthless.

[white birch]

In a one-on-one fight you'd always loose

[hollow bobcat]

Halo Reach probably has some of the worst weapons in Halo history.

[storm snow]

Does Infinite have a memory leak issue? After 4-5 games I always start dropping frames

Then restart and it's back to a steady 120

[thin elm]

I noticed that last season too actually

Not sure if it was fixed for s4

[thin elm]

Ez fix with dual-only weapons

[dull cave]

That message makes my blood boil because I literally exposed you using the internet for finding out what Osiris and the Warden is for and not game logic

[grim citrus]

https://youtu.be/VaOhwQO9lqM

[white birch]

And now the bigger question; did any of you crack one of the novels...

[dull cave]

Yes

[dull cave]

What part do you want me to see

[grim citrus]

All of it.

[dull cave]

I did 3 times

[grim citrus]

Yes. You saw a 10 minute clip 3 times in 3 minutes.

[dull cave]

I played the whole campaign 3 times

[grim citrus]

That means nothing.

[dull cave]

It does because I've listened to every part and I still don't know anything about them

Little facts is not character development

[grim citrus]

This is a joke.

Okay man.

[hollow bobcat]

Certain weapons maybe. However, I felt the overall pain of dual wielding wasn't just the fact that the weapons by themselves were worthless. It was also the increased reload times and the complicated separate reload/pickup buttons for Halo 3.

[white birch]

They also nerfed the damage each weapon did to balance em out, which kind of made most of the already mid-level automatic weapons feel even more pointless in a game where precision and headshots rule.

Back in the day, most automatic weapons were kinda dirt. The AR only really started seeing effective use in H4, Id say.

[dull cave]

This was never explained in game. Ever, btw.

[grim citrus]

You’re right. The game should’ve had a cutscene of each member of fireteam Osiris job interviews. That’s one flaw of the game.

[dull cave]

That takes down your own argument because you said they were all explained when they weren't

[grim citrus]

I should entertain this.

You know what man, you’re right. Nothing about fireteam Osiris was explained in the game.

All in books.

Show me where in the original trilogy where they talk about Sargent Avery Johnson.

[narrow agate]

you right, they should have had that.

[narrow agate]

Sergeant*

[frosty condor]

“That’s classified” -SGT Johnson

[serene badger]

Oi, infinite multiplayer. IMO;

1. Out of BTB game modes, slayer is my least favorite. It is a staple, but I simply think the other game modes are more fun when the teams are full.
2. Everything BTB goes up a crazy fun level when its Fiesta.
   I say, my fav of all multiplayer varients are the BTB Fiesta games. Just pick a BTB map, game mode, slap it to fiesta, and lets roll.

[sullen anvil]

btb imo
Really dislike the infantry map design and how segmented the maps are. Most of the btb maps are the weakest in the series and I want vehicles to shine once again. Really really want a successor to bloodgulch or Valhalla, huge wide open maps like sidewinder/avalanche (we don’t talk about keyhole)

[proud juniper]

I like it when masterchief says it’s halo time and kisses Cortana while the arbiter cries

[sullen anvil]

I like it when johnson says “lady like I what know” and knows everyone out

[proud juniper]

Me too

My fav is halo reach’s ending

[serene badger]

Those were the days, solid maps.
We do need maps like those.

Man, i miss sidewinder.

[thin elm]

they encourage infantry fights

and channel vehicles down lanes

if ur a vehicle guy, u'll hate them

but i actually think theyre aight

[sullen anvil]

Fragment is not a bad map

Highpower can have it’s moments too, deadlock is good, oasis is great

But I really hate how encouraged infantry fights are. That’s why btb has been so boring to me because there’s hardly any vehicle plays you can make

and you can’t drive anywhere too. Everything is all segmented into lanes

and it makes it super easy to ambush vehicles too

[olive brook]

love it when mcc crashes and i get temporarily banned from matchmaking

easily my favorite mcc moments

[thin elm]

basically 343 nerfed vehicles

indirectly

[analog salmon]

there's people who prefer this style of BTB to be fair

Oasis for me is the best BTB map because it has plenty of space for vehicles but plenty of people prefer Scar it seems

not to say vehicles arent viable at all on scar but there's a lot more chance of you getting melted if you dont play very cautiously and getting out the enemy base with the flag is a monumental feat compared with oasis that does much better to spread players across the map and away from their flag

i dont actually think 343 nerfed vehicles

squad battle shows how much more effective the vehicles are with the lower player count

Infinite Valhalla in the Halo 3 configuration (wraith, banshee, hog, ghost) I would say actually has stronger vehicles then it did in Halo 3

[sullen anvil]

I want Infinite to have avalanche but done right. It’s such a good map but OOOOF keyhole sucks

[analog salmon]

so you want it to have sidewinder? 😄

i know what you mean though, its a neat map layout but i think encouraging players to go around the outside (not quite as easily as sidewinder with teleports across the map)

avalanche does actually make it pretty easy to get into the enemy base its just 90% of players go keyhole

[narrow agate]

we need Shipment 24/7

[dusty patrol]

Heya, I'm a keyboard and mouse player (Play on Xbox), and I would love it if someone would recommend me their sensitivity settings and such. I notice that lower sensitivity is good for longer ranges and I have better accuracy, but it kinda screws me over and close combat cause I have to drag my mouse across the entire plastic table I use.

Higher sensitivity sorta helps I'm close quarters, but my aim sticks over distance and I constantly miss my shots. I have tried looking up guides on YouTube, but it seems literally no video exists on the platform regarding sensitivity for keyboard and mouse.

Can anyone help? Just recommending me some settings or tips would be nice.

Is this the wrong channel? It says discussions, so I'm assuming this is the right place.

Just found one video, but I think it's outdated. Currently, the mouse setting goes like "0.000", but in this video it's "0.0"

If we say the sensitivity is "1.8" in the video, would I instead use 1.800"?

[smoky oasis]

That

Is a reasonable assumption.

[crystal iron]

This halo mcc cut halo ce content is awesome... hope they add it to xbox

[low musk]

Hopefully they add Valhalla from Squad Battles on BTB

[coral viper]

Why is a civil war everytime in halo community?

[exotic vigil]

What do you mean?

[undone sluice]

yo quick question

some of my mods for MCC are missing after the new update, even ones I have subscribed to after the update

is it because they haven't been updated to the new version yet or is it another issue?

[grim citrus]

Because nobody knows what makes a halo game a halo game in 2023

[coral viper]

Well, i think is cuz you cannot define what halo is

Some people got the impression of halo 3, reach and 4, that is a depressive game

[grim citrus]

Every halo game is a halo game.

[coral viper]

But in the same games are massive action

And also a bit of terror

The multiplayer is first a competitive precision one

And after something like COD

And after (probabily) a battle royale

[grim citrus]

What are you even saying right now?

[coral viper]

That halo don't know so well what is

[grim citrus]

Halo is whatever the developers decide to make it

[coral viper]

the mix of things like the first cinematic in the covenant full of action and explosions, to later have a few more ending the two scarabs, to later have a moment full of epicity killing the prophet, to later have a sad moment when Miranda dies , to then have a moment of terror fighting the flood, to then have a sad moment after getting cortana back, to then have ANOTHER moment of action/terror with the flood, and then to have a sad moment when johnson dies, to then have another moment moment of epicity with the warthog run...

You know what i'm sayin?

[grim citrus]

Why are you describing halo 3’s story

You like campaigns that begins and ends the same?

[coral viper]

Nah, i think is fine, but is too much

Btw sorry for writtin da full bible the cooldown hits hard

[grim citrus]

I’m so confused.

[tepid latch]

idek whats going on

[ruby knoll]

the usual

[coral viper]

Bruh

[glossy carbon]

as per tradition, I am legally obligated to state my opinion.

Halo 3s campaign was great but too short and poorly written

[grim citrus]

How can something be great and poorly written at the same time?

[glossy carbon]

cause everything outside of that was stellar.

Enemy design
vehicle and weapon sandbox
level design

if you ignore half the dialouge in the story its great

[tepid latch]

h3 lord hood 🤢

[glossy carbon]

h3 keyes

[tepid latch]

sad that they lost the voice talent from halo 2 for prophet and keyes :(

idk if they lost or just cast other people, but halo 2 prophet va was 👌

[sullen anvil]

When could we expect the next Workshop playlist?

[tepid latch]

who knows, will likely be a surprise

could be the playlist for any of the upcoming events

[sullen anvil]

I would love to see a Workshop playlist feature an in-dev multiplayer map wether it’s forge made or dev tool made

[glossy carbon]

im kinda sick of 343 3 lane maps

so the more maps we get from older halos the better

[tepid latch]

the new maps for this season have been pretty fun! but definitely agree, less 3 lane maps for the love of god. more maps that are just made to look interesting

as soon as you can pick up its a 3 lane map it feels so cookie cutter

[vapid marten]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-scared-gif-21327261

Four minutes later
"Every halo game is a halo game."

[grim citrus]

Yes. That is my take on it.

Catch up, man.

[vapid marten]

"Halo is whatever the developers decide to make it"

Some people associate Halo with certain key things, both visually and performative, an "identity" of sorts. Many of those happen to be shared by the community into a common definition. Halo Reach for instance got flak for Loadouts and Bloom, Halo 4 for visual design deviations, Halo 5 for its move towards advanced movement, and not even limited to those per game, all those games got critiqued for more aspects in them that deviated from certain aspects previous games had.

People argue because they have different tastes, and argument ensues, especially on what makes "Halo a halo game for them".
"Everything can be a Halo game" ( your take ) feels extremely elitist as you're functioning as an arbiter for OTHERS on what they should regard as a Halo game for themselves.
"Nope, you're wrong, this is what it is for me, and what it is for YOU, regardless of what you think".

[grim citrus]

Saying a game isn’t a halo game because of what YOU think isn’t elitist? Lol

[vapid marten]

"Whatbout"

Mhm, please point out where I hold that opinion.

[grim citrus]

Lmao what?

You’re saying because I hold the belief that every halo game is a halo game, that labels me an elitist. That is ludicrous.

Show me where I was wrong in saying that.

[vapid marten]

Okay, so you need it elaborated.

Please tell me where I say that I regard it to not be elitist to tell someone else that the Halo game they think is a Halo game, isn't a Halo game.

[vapid marten]

No, I'm saying it's elitist to tell others that they're wrong.

"Because nobody knows what makes a halo game a halo game in 2023"

[grim citrus]

…

[vapid marten]

"This isn't a Halo game for me"

"Oh no you, it is one for you"

That's essentially what it translates to

[livid fiber]

No it does not.

[vapid marten]

"Why is there a Halo community civil war"
->
"Because nobody knows what makes a Halo game a Halo game in 2023"
->
"Every Halo game is a Halo game"
->
"The developers decides what a Halo game is"

I don't regard Halo 4 as a Halo game and I'm on the fence for Halo 5 based on my opinions and how I identify Halo based on previous experiences, but clearly I'm wrong because someone else says so.

However I'm not disregarding how someone else identify those games.

[livid fiber]

Just because you do not regard said games as halo games, does not make them "not halo" games. That's the beauty of opinions, you're allowed to have one.

[vapid marten]

You mean the thing I did write?

[glossy carbon]

man there have been some heated arguements here recently

[smoky wave]

Pretty normal over here

[smoky oasis]

Pretty much the same ones every day though

[exotic vigil]

Its best to just ignore certain people who are only here to argue in bad faith

[noble delta]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=owttcmW7_S4&feature=share

[hollow bobcat]

A true Halo game is one with 5 second respawn timers.

[left snow]

I guess? I'm a fan of the current spawn times. Especially for objective games (and particularly CTF). You deserve the numbers advantage for a few seconds to score some points.

And in Slayer you at least deserve a chance to pick the bodies, reload, and set up before the revenge is sought.

8 to 10 seconds isn't very long. Use the time to reflect on not dying so much 🙂

[noble delta]

Can somebody contact 343 to add mods to Xbox on mcc?

[crystal iron]

Create thread in #1076337363770417172 or just say in #1082838414057025557 that you want to see mods on console🤷‍♂️
No one here have any special contact with 343 but they are reading threads as far as I know

[hollow bobcat]

The typical response is that if somebody doesn't like the respawn timers, then they must be dying a lot. That is generally not the case. I would rather see more action throughout the match.

I'm not suggesting instant respawns like Call of Duty. I'm suggesting going back to how things used to be since the original Halo trilogy. They always had a consistent 5 second respawn timer for 4v4 (even faster if you were playing SWAT).

[left snow]

Even after all these years / months... it never gets old 😄

I'd be happy to look at 5 seconds for Slayer.

But in objective games you need that time of having numbers to play the objective. Holding the oddball, kinging the hill, parking a zone, etc.

And CTF definitely needs 10 seconds to give you a chance to run or return a flag.

But overall - 8 seconds isn't really all that long. Gives you a chance to have a drink, stand up and get some gluteal blood flow, work out what happened, etc.

[hollow bobcat]

I personally think there is not enough adversity for objective modes. If the respawn timers are too high, it'll make the objectives too easy in a 4v4 scenario.

I can understand increasing the respawn timer depending on the amount of people in the lobbies. If we had 5 second respawn timers in squad battles, it'll be a little too hectic.

Speaking of Slayer, has Halo ever had a game mode where you constantly spawn inside of a vehicle? More specifically, scorpion tanks only on large maps.

[stone star]

na

[stone star]

same ones with the same people

[lime root]

Is there a known reason why Infinite crashes every 5 - 10 games? I’m on series X and my frames drop which is really unusual on the Series X and then my game will freak out for a solid 30 seconds and will either somehow manage to sort its stuff out or just crashes and stuffs my Xbox for an additional 5 minutes after crashing. I’m getting stressed about playing Infinite at the moment because I don’t want to fry my Xbox with my game crashing every hour

[noble urchin]

only thing i can think of is you gotta clean out your console maybe. i play Infinite frequently on Series X and my game never crashes, but sometimes i get kicked to lobby cuz server problems

[coarse dagger]

You can create a topic in #1075989764026675210 and maybe try some troubleshooting

[analog salmon]

It won’t hurt your console

Game crashing can then lead to the console crashing but it’s pretty harmless to the console

You can preemptively shut down you Xbox to avoid it

[coarse dagger]

Pardoned that typo for you

[analog salmon]

Appreciate it 😄

[storm snow]

Our dead weight players quit and it actually made the game fun https://i.imgur.com/u8MISZw.png

[crystal iron]

Aight so Not really about Halo but I'm pretty excited for Starfeild, going to try and make some Kinda Halo Inspired Ship, but mostly going to make a ship that's basically going to be a warcrime with Space travel capabilities

[crystal iron]

If anything a game crash and System crash seems more like a safety setting to prevent actual damage

[onyx pendant]

Get a pc bro

[trim hatch]

is there a support

[analog salmon]

Plenty of people crash on PC. It’s actually been pretty stable on console since launch and only recently had crashing problems

[analog salmon]

#1075989764026675210 but for official support https://support.halowaypoint.com/

[empty rapids]

bro when people throw nades instead of shooting when they have an obvious ttk advantage is a sadboi hours moment

[empty rapids]

check to see if you have an update

or verify the game's files

crashing can cause read/write errors and corrupt a game

[indigo ravine]

Is there a new halo coming out?

[empty rapids]

no

[coarse dagger]

Nothing announced right now and probably won't be for a while

[indigo ravine]

Damn

[empty rapids]

infinite has a 10 year live service planned out

so realisitically, no not for a while

[indigo ravine]

Is infinite a hudge success

[empty rapids]

it's not a failure

did they buff the mangler's handling?

it just feels better to use

[white birch]

Outcasts is coming out next month. Epitaph next year. TV show season 2. Take your pick.

[tropic agate]

Yes.

[coral orchid]

No

[indigo ravine]

Idk it’s so hudge

I didn’t know there was even a show

[white birch]

Open your eyes my dude.

[crystal iron]

Two books and season 2 of tv show. Idk if it’s huge.

[crystal iron]

Lol

[indigo ravine]

😂

[ruby knoll]

the show has some good parts

and the rest of the show

[smoky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-quan-ah-halo-anxious-stare-tense-gif-24225529

[exotic vigil]

The halo show sure exists

[serene furnace]

And it's fun

[exotic vigil]

Sure bud

[serene furnace]

I said "fun", not "good"

[thin elm]

Alien designs were god tier

Brutes never looked so gud

Also prophets

[sleek beacon]

Unpopular opinion, halo 4 had the best art style, aside from halo reaches army trooper uniforms and weapons.

[young glen]

That is certainly unpopular lol

[serene furnace]

Halo 4's beauty really shows in some parts

Master Chief's armor, Jackals, Forerunner structures, they all look amazing in Halo 4

[sleek beacon]

Agreed, though I will say I don’t like the marines in halo 4

[serene furnace]

Halo 2 and 3 were the only games they maintained a consistent look and that specific look was pretty good

[sinful agate]

Infinite really needs some kind of f2p store

[brazen tide]

but then less money 😧

[smoky wave]

Event pass

Twitch drops (this one is kinda eh to go but free stuff)

[sinful agate]

I mean, it'd probably help them make more since that would get f2ps more invested and more likely to spend money

[smoky wave]

Maybe, maybe not

[serene furnace]

I came here to shoot enemies, not to look pretty on a shiny armor

[sinful agate]

Ik there is free stuff to get, but after finishing the weekly events there's not much incentive to keep playing besides just fun

[smoky wave]

Just play the game because it's fun?

[sinful agate]

I mean many other games do this and it works

[smoky wave]

There is also already a level system too

[serene furnace]

That's what they added a progression system for?

[smoky wave]

That I wish they added better rewards tho but still, the point of that system is literally ''numbers goes up, me keep playing''

[sinful agate]

do you guys work for 343 or something, you seem overly opposed to getting more rewards

[smoky wave]

If I worked there I would not be talking over here lmao

[serene furnace]

Did people need rewards to play Halo 1 and 2 for so many years?

[sinful agate]

Don't remember them having stores you had to spend money on either

[smoky wave]

You have to spend it for map packs

[serene furnace]

They didn't even have unlockables of any kind

[sinful agate]

It's just annoying bc there's so much stuff that is either completely locked behind paywalls or otherwise impossible to get bc the event is over

[smoky wave]

It is what it is

[sinful agate]

Its a simple upgrade that could easily improve the experience

[smoky wave]

Maybe but people already buying stuff anyways

[serene furnace]

First time playing a live service?

[sinful agate]

They had a somewhat similar system in Halo 5 and it was great

[sinful agate]

Toxic for no reason... but do you even play other games? Most have a f2p store of some kind

[serene furnace]

Of course if you don't go and play Fortnite now you won't get all the stuff from the current season, that's the design phylosophy of these kind of games
And I don't like it

[smoky wave]

Which f2p game

I'm pretty curious now

[serene furnace]

The only live service with a f2p store I know of are Apex and Naraka and their f2p store limits to skins

[sinful agate]

Off the top of my head, COD and fortnite iirc (altho I never played fortnite)

[smoky wave]

I thought CoD paywall all cosmetics, at least the most ''coolest'' ones

[sinful agate]

A lot are, but there is usually still a way to earn/get some f2p

[serene furnace]

Infinite does too, in both the events and the free tiers of the battle pass

[sinful agate]

I'm not a huge Halo 5 fan but they did it very well in that game, shouldn't be hard to do something similar in Infinite and still make a lot of money

[serene furnace]

Most people say they did it terrible

[sinful agate]

It's still not something you can earn credits for and acc pick stuff from, just a small fraction of the worst looking stuff in game

[serene furnace]

Rewards in Halo 5 were randomized, not a good way to unlock stuff

[sinful agate]

Fair enough, but at least you could earn them. I was talking more about there being different amounts of credits you could earn from matches and achievements to then get stuff with

[serene furnace]

You were just told Infinite has free rewards, whether you like them or not is entirely your opinion

[dark wing]

still better than infinites, at least you could earn all the cosmetics for free bar some bundles.

[serene furnace]

I hate this community

[sinful agate]

Yea I've actually played the game 🤯 Again, is there a reason you're so toxic towards my opinion of what should be added?

So defensive for no reason

[serene furnace]

Halo 5 had the "worst rewarding system in the series" is all you heard about back in the day, now people saying it was better than the current one

[dark wing]

because halo infinite didnt exist yet.....

-_-

[serene furnace]

Pitch your idea to 343 employees then

[sinful agate]

Weren't you literally just lecturing me about how the previous Halo's didn't HAVE a rewards system?

[serene furnace]

And even so you wouldn't actually convince anyone that it was a better system than Infinite's, you are not gonna convince me, for one

[thin elm]

i prefer infinites, also way more drip

[dark wing]

i dont even know you. i do not care.

[serene furnace]

Only Halo 1 and 2, and you didn't even answer the question I asked you regarding those

[smoky wave]

[sinful agate]

Check again, I actually did

[serene furnace]

Repeat it

[sinful agate]

You never answered why you're so defensive against my suggestion for the game...

[serene furnace]

Because I don't like your suggestion, simple as that

[sinful agate]

Clearly 💀