halo-discussion

[crystal iron]

They showed the ship customization and someone made a ship that looked like a mech. And another looked like a Platypus...

Ooooh and we should be getting the Elden Ring dLc soon .. I'm ready to put myself through that pain again lol....

[exotic vigil]

If the games from the showcase do well and arent completely broken I think we can finally say this gaming industry slump is almost over

[crystal iron]

Imagine a Halo game like that where your flying around the Galaxy as a Spartan team just cashing chaos for the banished .. like your whole mission is to discover new war crimes and ways to give the banished PTSD lol

[grave ether]

I think I'll look into it when I'm done some other games on my list. I'm truly living under a rock at this point lol

[exotic vigil]

Sounds like Destiny lmao

[crystal iron]

Yea I feel you on that, gaming hasn't really felt very full as of late.

Oh also a new armored core is dropping in a few months if your into those.

I think mid August

[grave ether]

I mean lately I've been chilling with some single player games. Finished Jedi Survivor, now I'm working on Forbidden West. Less stress than pvp

[exotic vigil]

Was jedi good?

[grave ether]

So good

[crystal iron]

Yea That is also a reason I'm excited for forge AI... I swear if they can make it to where we can grab Grunts with The grapple hook the first thing I want is a dodge ball game mode where you just toss grunts at each other lol

[exotic vigil]

That would be so cool

[grave ether]

What about a claw machine minigame

[crystal iron]

Now did you rock the mullet for Cal Kestis lol Mullet gun Light saber .. The true Murica Jedi

[crystal iron]

da Claw lol

[grave ether]

Make it look the claw machine from toy story

[grave ether]

I ended up making him look like Kyle Katarn and it kinda stuck

[devout kite]

I think we’ll see the BP on Friday plus a free weapon charm

[crystal iron]

That would be so much fun,

Haven't touched forge in a while, the last thing I made was a needler that shot those explosive Cendiary rounds ... And I blew myself up several times

[sullen anvil]

Does anyone have Halo 4 Slender in their file share???

I thought I had it but idk where it went

[crystal iron]

Oh, Haven't seen that look yet but I'm going to guess he looked more like Lord Fartwad lol

I got my butt kicked by some dude looking like Lord Farkwad in Elden ring

Like he rolled me.up in seconds it was rather embarrassing lol cus I was all hyped up and dude took me.out faster than Milenia

Hey has anyone seen that Halo Animation that used the Halo reach graphics it's like a Mock Noble team or something .. I can't remember the name of it.

[crystal iron]

Oh that's not to bad, have you tried the Ronin style hair, iv seen some tiktoks of that it looks pretty cool...

But also ... Do you have ... Da Poncho

[grave ether]

I do indeed that that ugly thing

[crystal iron]

Excellent.

So I was kinda disappointed with the Star wars open world game, mainly the fact that your stuck playing as one Character, being that it's from Ubisoft I was fully expecting to have a wide variety of a species and traits for Character customization. Really wanted to make a Darth maul type of dude

[crystal iron]

Right now I'm playing Fall out 76, games kinda confusing but from what I have learned a Shotgun is the best investment, there is literally Shotgun ammo everywhere and the scorched enemies always drop it

[livid fable]

60 on average. about 45 that game.

could you elaborate? i know what 'latency' means in a general sense, just not sure how it's applying here.

[rugged quartz]

Do you guys think the five events mean two story and three times fractures? Or two story. Fractures and two other events

[livid fable]

i think it means more empty multiplayer cutscenes that last about 30 seconds and have approximately 0 to do with story

[ruby knoll]

I'm condescending to people who know nothing about what they're talking about :^)

[ruby knoll]

The latter. I think each main season has had 2 story events, the fracture repeating, and then some amount of other events

[livid fable]

How many games do you play out of social obligation to other players instead of because it's fun?

[ruby knoll]

0, I only play until I get bored. If I get bored midmatch I finish the match

funni markdown moment

[livid fable]

fair, but what about game modes you just don't like

[ruby knoll]

I like infinite's gameplay. Other than base slayer I don't really dislike any modes
base slayer is an affront due to how utterly plain it is

[livid fable]

i don't like escalation slayer. i like almost everything else, but not that mode.

i like free for all. but i don't like high ping games.

partially because the aa stops working above 40 ping

there's games where i figure out about 2 kills in that i'm done

[exotic vigil]

All of them

[livid fable]

because ping, lag, latency, wv it is, you just can't really have fun with it because what you try to do just doesn't really connect

and at that point, remaining goes from being 'because it's fun' to 'because i'm socially obligated to.'

maybe if we made a turn based halo

[low blaze]

Is it actually possible for master chief to feel romance?

[wide trout]

I don’t believe so in the TV show until he gets rid of the hormone suppressant, but he should theoretically be able to feel romantic attraction in the mainline series

[low blaze]

Is it known if he ever has felt romance?

[wide trout]

Canonically? There’s never been any explicit statement about it, but the ending of Halo 4, and the story of Halo 5/Infinite gives some hints.

[low blaze]

To who?

[wide trout]

Cortana

[low blaze]

No

He has never felt romantically towards cortana

She's just his friend

[wide trout]

whatever you say dude

[celest heron]

huh?

[sullen anvil]

Chief is the embodiment of the feeling of having a super awesome senior friend in highschool but then they graduate

[low blaze]

So has he broken the law at any point?

[coral orchid]

closest thing to that is him going AWOL in Halo 5

[eternal lion]

Well 1st, its an IA
2nd litterally in his brain, so not really possible de have a romantic relation
3rd : they have been working together for like 4 months...

Doesn't mean, they do not care about each other very much and they are not close. But romantic ? Well, there has been not sign of romantic relation. Caring yes.

[tepid latch]

4 months????

oh damn! idk why i didnt realise that it really wasnt that long, just found this thread talking about it https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloStory/comments/r79niw/how_long_has_chief_known_cortana/

But it kinda makes sense they'd be bonded together more than some people given the stuff they'd been through in that time

and yeah, cortana is literally in chiefs head, you wouldn't be able imagine how close people could get with that sort of intimacy ig

[full warren]

Search times is a mess, it instantly pops queue during times that are day to midnight but the second it reaches midnight it goes from 20s to 5 mins it’s crazy

[rugged quartz]

The TV show is very different from actual canon.

Cortana is his best friend. Doesn’t mean romance.

Only romantic type thing that could be was when he was six or five. But eh. It’s not explicitly stated or necessarily implicitly implied that he’s aromantic

[crystal iron]

So apperantly in Starfeild we can get joint pain and soreness, finally a game that will match my Post military career immersion lol

Wait why did I get a warning regarding L's ending with ks...
When did I even discuss anything regarding anything remotely close

[sullen kiln]

For server moderation concerns, please message @upbeat plover.

[crystal iron]

Seems unnecessary and uninviting and unwelcoming in this discord,

Iv seen you be rude towards other members for some self fulfilling superiority complex or something.

Idk just seems like it goes against the whole policies on how to treats others in this discord and somehow you get away with it.

[tepid latch]

would be more kind that if somene doesnt know what they're talking about you just assist them in correcting their knowledge if they're open to it and if they're not then you just leave it alone right?

[crystal iron]

That would make sense

[tepid latch]

idk what this whole thing is about though so 🤷

if someone is being unnecessarily rude then should probs report them to mods?

[crystal iron]

Oh just an ongoing thing that I have noticed and have been on the receiving end from a specific member of this discord.

[tepid latch]

Oh, thats definitely not nice! hope you're doing alright!

[crystal iron]

Eh it is what it is, at this point I think I must accept that somehow they are protected from consequences of belittling other members of the discord.

I'm doing fine just playing some fall out 76 and was just killed by a legendary Deathclaw .. I knew I was done when it auto refilled it's health lol

[tepid latch]

Lmao rough time i see! never played 76, a ton of 4 though and i fear just a normal deathclaw for my life 🫡

[crystal iron]

Well it's free with Gamepass so I figured I try it out .m it is very different but from what I read it has improved since it day one launch which was less than stellar.

Also alot of Players are very eager to help new ones, and They have an option to opt out of PVP which is nice

[inland minnow]

back to halo discussion here please. other discussion can be taken to dms

[tepid latch]

lol

was like an hour ago

I feel like tactical slayer should maybe be moved to quick play or something, i cannot find a match of it otherwise in its solo playlist

[analog salmon]

it would just have an insanely high quit rate

[tepid latch]

i just dont wanna see it go 😭

[crystal iron]

That’s the thing about discussions, they are not always about one topic lol
I don’t really understand what’s the problem with it.

[coarse dagger]

Because it's not Halo discussion, which is what this channel is for. Moderation discussion goes to modmail and off topic discussion goes in #general-chat

Moderation discussion also includes questioning staff decisions

[tepid latch]

my b for going off topic for a quick sec to make sure a guy was okay 🫡

[coarse dagger]

All good

[devout kite]

Are we seeing the bp tomorrow?

[ruby knoll]

Beanut Putter

[smoky wave]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/infection-overview-season-4

[coral orchid]

This is an interesting way of having an actual explanation behind the infected in the mode

I’m down for it though. Infection is back so that’s all I care about

[white birch]

Gotta make it fit with the existing canon as best they can. Could have done a lot worse tbh.

[coral orchid]

True. This is probably the best way to do it with how the story is going currently rn

Also took a look at how the career ranks are gonna work. Seems like it’s MCC’s career ranks essentially

[white birch]

Easiest thing to reuprose

[coral orchid]

It’ll be nice to have something else to consistently work towards besides the battle pass

[white birch]

Im more curious as to how exactly Iratus thinks hes going to get off planet though.
And how in the heck he's hijacked the armor properly.
Is this a Fred situation where there's an S-IV stuck in there, being puppeted by his own armor?

Or is there just a whole bunch of raw empty Mirage IIC in the basement that hes let loose?

In truth I really dont think this is going to go all that well for our Banished friend, invading an academy loaded with trained, armed and willing to fight Spartan-IVs is a very very bad idea. Leonidus got it done through guile and sublty; assaulting one head on is a bad idea

[coral orchid]

We shall see. I’m just happy to have infection back

[celest heron]

what platform?

[signal ivy]

#1075989764026675210

[coarse dagger]

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/06/15/halo-infinite-infection-mode/

[novel basalt]

I'm just glad we'll finally have an official infection mode instead of the janky modified slayer mode for customs.

[ruby knoll]

"Further down the line we’ll be introducing the Forge AI Toolkit, which allows players to spawn and manage campaign AI in Forge. I think a lot of interesting experiences are going to spring out of that functionality – all with the potential to become a staple mode in Halo Infinite.”

[coarse dagger]

Very cool

[crystal iron]

Just saw a gameplay trailer for Armored core, and so far wit me being a huge fan of Mech fights I might spend the money on this game.

Forge AI is one of the few things that has me very excited about the future of the game.

I can only imagine what fun part game modes will spring up from that

[full warren]

lol my 3 teammates combined headshot accuracy is lower than my, now that is a new low lol

How do you even get 4.2% headshot accuracy

[misty vale]

They play for the vehicle combat 😉

[full warren]

They never played btb

[slow walrus]

mouse and keyboard probably

[full warren]

.... I am mnk

[slow walrus]

pretty difficult not to get headshots with the gamepad aim assist active

[full warren]

21% and 16% is the other two, and I think they are controller

thats why it is shocking

[crystal iron]

Wow I just realized June is already halfway over.... dear God I thought we were still in the first week of it lol.

I was seeing all these videos saying S4 is only a few days away and I was thinking no way That's still a few weeks away lol

[crystal iron]

Holy cow there is a Warhammer 40k game where you play as a Space Marine.... Dear God it looks fun

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/YjBlVOtiJ6s

[onyx latch]

There's like, a dozen of those. You need to be more specific.

[misty vale]

It's ltierally called "Space Marine 2"

[onyx latch]

Yep

[earnest thunder]

Scarr looks insane it might be my favorite map visually at least

[halcyon slate]

At least based on the trailer yesterday, it kinda gives me Halo 4 btb map vibes in a good way

[crystal iron]

I had never heard of the term TTP until that new Zelda Game, an done Starfeild tiktoks are vouching to break TTP world records lol

Was there ever a TTP in Halo Forge

Also Today marks the day I finally started to play Halo Infinite again since like months .. or weeks honestly I have a really bad sense of time, hell I just recently realized we are halfway through this month, which means I'm that much closer to my family Disneyland trip, granted not sure if I really want to go given that parks constant ride breakdowns

Hey what happened to. If team heavies I thought that was its own playlist and Big team fiesta

[tepid latch]

Team heavies is now included in the BTB playlist

[crystal iron]

Ah so it's RNG based now... Well that's kinda a bummer

[tepid latch]

a little bit of a bummer, but its probably better to be included to not bulk up the playlist selection and separate the player base as much esp for something like btb

was saying yesterday i wish that SWAT was in quick play or something like that, because not many people go to that dedicated playlist and maybe if people just fell into it via rng it might have more players

i personally wouldnt mind being thrown into swat along side oddball and KOTH, but i do understand other might be bothered

maybe social skirmish it could work in since the mode is a lot quicker

[crystal iron]

I think a BTB Skirmish would be good and than have the BTB fiesta and heavies as their own list

If they bring Firefight in though they need to make the Challenges work there as well.

Kinda like Reach did

Like kill X amount of Ultra Elites or whatever

[tepid latch]

I dont think challenges would work with Firefight exclusively though since forcing someone to play a gamemode to specifically finish a challenge was a thing they're trying to avoid, i assume itll still just be 'get kills with x weapon' or maybe something like 'get x amount of kills in pvp/pve' and just exclude bot bootcamp

but i doubt that will be a huge issue

[crystal iron]

Perhaps it can be its own set of challenges, like we have the PVP challenges and they will be PVE challenges so they are a seperate list

[crystal iron]

Man I really want the Cross core of helmets and shoulders there are really Narly set ups I want to do with armor

[crystal iron]

Have you guys seen the video From Halo Follower where there is an Interview with Jeff Booty

I'm not sure I'm allowed to post the link here, this discord seems to have really strict rules.

Also is there a Leaks and Speculation area on this discord.

[tepid latch]

its Axios' interview its all over my twitter feed lol, doesnt really allude to anything though. he's just saying the teams going well and they're not talking about any future halo titles

[crystal iron]

Obviously but honestly I think it would do them good to talk a out future Halo stuff, this secrecy of stuff just at this point feels pointless

They really need to hype yo Halo a bit more, unless they don't have things that are worth hyping up Halo

[onyx latch]

gnarly

[crystal iron]

Like The big talk is Starfeild, are.kred Core 6 and other titles,

No one outside of this Community and barely them are really talking about Halo or really hyping it up.

So I don't think there is another Coating Inlike better than Cadet Olive with the Noble Visor

[open umbra]

If they can make campaign specific challenges, then I wish they can have Craig the brute as Infinite's version of Bob the elite, and make some challenges around him.

[crystal iron]

First challenge you need to beat Craig the Brute in a rap Battle lol

[crystal iron]

I'm over in the Starfeild chat and already we are thinking up of some crazy ideas for ship builds... And mods....

Like if we can deploy mines in space for pursuing ships, someone promised to make a Mod that turns the Mines into explosive Bananas

[tepid latch]

Hey Cayde its probs best to keep that in the general chat since its not on topic, wouldn't want you to get in trouble 😔

[coarse dagger]

No, leak discussion of any kind is not allowed here

[devout kite]

Remember you can earn a weapon charm today at 4pm est on the halo twitch channel

[tepid latch]

is that for the Livesteam for s4?

god, do i wake up at 5.30 for it or do i just sleep in and catch it later lol

[devout kite]

It’s the preview stream for season 4

It was posted on the halo esport Twitter page

[limpid pollen]

waiting for the OG btb map design to come back but i think at this point that aint gonna happen

[misty vale]

what like...sidewinder?

[warm dust]

Question :

is there some sort of a musical trigger in Forge? For example - in Arma III, you can set up a "Garrison" trigger, and add a musical effect to it, meaning that when you get to the location music starts playing. Is there a mod or something other like that in Halo Reach Forge? I would love that because it would make ag reat vibe in my AI Forge Mission.

[solemn escarp]

halo reddit discord

[chilly solstice]

Just ate a pound and a half of shrimp while playin ranked.

[devout kite]

Who else feels like having text channels for infinite would be nice

[signal ivy]

what do you mean

we have #1039633978841374720 already

[devout kite]

I meant in game lol

[scarlet shuttle]

Are we going to get Standard Fiesta back someday?

[coral orchid]

Wdym by standard?

[scarlet shuttle]

Super Fiesta feel like a tactical slayer but with all weapons…

Fiesta, without the upgraded version of weapons

[coral orchid]

Does it matter though? Fiesta isn’t really meant to be taken seriously and just goof off

[scarlet shuttle]

It was one of my favorite mode, but I don’t have much fun with it now.

[shadow turret]

Regular Fiesta is already in the Super Fiesta playlist, its just weighted less in matchmaking

[coral orchid]

Because of the variant weapons?

[scarlet shuttle]

Even with bad weapon you still had a chance to win a fight in regular fiesta 😆 now you can’t stand a chance against needler, shotgun (which can snipe) and that laser gun is like an instant kill 😂 but I don’t know. This reminds me of why I don’t enjoy Destiny Multiplayer anymore… those Super Power are just annoying, and I don’t feel much joy from killing everyone with mine 🤷‍♂️

[scarlet shuttle]

Yeah, everything kill too fast. I know I can also kill faster, but I still don’t enjoy, you often get killed without even realizing what was going on. It feels like Tactical Slayer or Ranked, it creates death zone in every map, in which you cannot cross anymore without being 99.9% sure of dying instantly 😶

For me, Fiesta was the best mode to practice with all weapons :p

[summer aspen]

Main problem with this is it also tends to have a negative effect where less people play so yeaaa

[summer aspen]

I don't think people in quick play would want to play SWAT

[devout kite]

How is regular BTB weighted in matchmaking

[sonic void]

Hey can someone please help me out

[sullen anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkTXZWFVUu0

in 2 minutes

[crystal iron]

You mean text chat? It’s already in the game lol

[hidden scaffold]

Why are so many teamates bad

Like i am going to be ranked down because of bad teams

[grave ether]

It do be like that.
It could be they are decent players but thrown together in a random team without strategy doing their best it falls apart to someone that can exploit this weakness on the other team

[devout kite]

So we have to buy the effect that is normally tier 100 from the shop next season

[onyx latch]

?

[devout kite]

I mean the effect set

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/jGGR5xBdaEQ

[devout kite]

I’m guessing that the effect set is going to be in the shop

[solid ingot]

i'm pretty sure the pass had both parts of an effect set

[devout kite]

I’m talking about the effect set you get when you reach tier 100 because it got replace by the bulldog

[solid ingot]

i think they just moved the effects to earlier in the pass

[devout kite]

Ik that the kill effect is at tier 25

Which look sick

[teal scarab]

Am I the only one who keeps crashing every second game today?

[devout kite]

Are you on pc or Xbox

[teal scarab]

PC

[devout kite]

I would suggest asking support

What’s the plan for the effect set for season 4

[devout kite]

What’s everyone thoughts on the battle pass

[onyx latch]

I like the new Poncho Chief but tight

[devout kite]

I like the helmet at tier five

Also the talon helmet

I also like how we’re getting two weapon models

[earnest thunder]

Thoughts on the season 4 battlepass? I'm thinking a 7 or 8 out of ten since they repeated coatings but also there was about 180 things so the repeats aren't that bad (also the armor looks great)

[solid ingot]

We did at least get told that the repeated coatings and the like are an artifact of how they initally coded the game, so its an 8/10 for me in terms of things that could happen in the future

it would have been 9/10 if we had a mythic effect though

[celest heron]

montage should've been longer

[ancient briar]

I haven’t played Infinite in months. Season 4 looks like a good time to jump in. Infection and career ranks are a W

[celest heron]

https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1669858579896221696?cxt=HHwWgIDS_f7hw6wuAAAA

Tashi (@Tashi343i)

Heads-up on the leaderboards: They reset every week in order to prevent people from squatting on the leaderboard without actively playing over the course of a season. So when the reset hits (Thursdays), you won't be on the leaderboard until you play at least one game.

Twitter · Jun 17, 2023, 12:04 AM

[crystal iron]

Man I had to leave that last Game I was getting one but killed by Melees to the front.

I'm sure on their end they probably hit me a few times but on my end all I saw was one melee to the front and I'm dead

[strong hinge]

Why does matchmaking blow so bad on here...

[white birch]

Wait, leaderboards for what?

[coarse dagger]

Infinite

[crystal iron]

So I see the daily Camp in the shop,... Not going to lie The Autumn camo looks so bad, it's like bright camo Orange lol

[zealous panther]

Is there patch notes of upcoming season 4 yet?

[coarse dagger]

We'll get them on Tuesday

Some changes have been detailed in recent blogs

You can catch those in #announcements

[zealous panther]

Tyty

[crystal iron]

Dear God I hate total control it's such a boring mode

[tepid latch]

Is that you gotta catch all the hills to get a point?

[crystal iron]

Yes but I don't really like objectives modes I prefer slayer

[zealous panther]

I mean... You can just go and kill people around in this game mode

[crystal iron]

I want to play BTB but just slayer BTB.

[crystal iron]

Yes but I don't like being that guy who Isn't helping towards the objective

I can get the kills but obviously not enough to make a difference in keeping objectives you know

Those games usually just take so long so it becomes kinda boring after a while

That's one of the things with Halo Infinite, that more than likely I lose interest mid Match..
Idk how to explain it but like halfway through on BYB modes I'm just kinda like stop caring and that's obviously not good for the team aspect of the game

I remember they had a just Slayer BTB mode,

There should be a BTB slayer and regular slayer. Than just make BTB Skirmish

I really wish the. Rought back the SAW.

[tepid latch]

one day maybe

[crystal iron]

They really did water down the Weapons pool even the Super first Variants is dry.

That is really one of my biggest complaints of Halo Infinite is how we had such a great weapon soooo for Super fiesta in Halo 5 to some bare bones almost non existent weapons pool in Halo Infinite

[sullen anvil]

Really hoping for leaderboards actually being in infinite

so many waypoint features I’d love to see make their way into Infinite

(also please please please bring back lobbies)

[crystal iron]

Ok the games. Usted I have an oversheikd shoot a Spartan with sheilds down but he kills me with a BR

This is the stuff that Demotivates me from playing when I should be winning it for some reason the other team on a 1v1 beats me when they are clearing have no sheild

We still won but dear God That was some weird connection... It started off good but halfway through most of my shots were not doing the same.damage. so I just found the Disruptor and started using that as a more support role.

[fathom creek]

GUYS

WHICH IS BETTER, HALO 3 OR HALO 4 AND 5

[crystal iron]

Is the weapons spawns in fiesta really random, us sometimes it feels like they favor one team over the other lol

Depends on what aspects of. A game you like.
Each game is good in it's own way to the right person.

Halo 3 was a solid well rounded game for it's time, Halo 4 had some cool ideas but not well executed. Aka the weapon Loadout thing would have been better suited for PVE while keeping equal starts for PVP.

Halo 5 brought more updates looks but sometimes the color brightness washed out the armor, plus the armor kinda looked more rubbery with the design choice.

But Halo 5 had Warzone Firefight which had it been carried over and improved upon could have added more flavor to Halo Infinite overall I don't think there is a solid Best Halo Game because each had their own unique issue but also shined in a way that can't seem to be duplicated.

[shadow turret]

It is
A lot of it is luck with RNG, since there's like 20 different weapons (more of its Super Fiesta), and sometimes one can get lucky, and other times not
I went about 10 or so straight games without spawning in with a Spankr once
But sometimes I get one like every other life

I feel that way sometimes though, where the enemy team seems to have all rockets and swords or sumn

and I have like a plasma pistol and pulse carbine

[crystal iron]

They had the Tank and rockets snipers and what not... I had an AR and pistol...

But I don't quit on this matches be Use for me Fiesta is not competitive it's just the most random thing

I would love a fiesta mode where the weapons spawn but shoot like other weapons lol

[shadow turret]

There is a community made mode like this
Its chaotic, and an AC-130 exists in it lol
Needler-Volitile Skewer or M41 tracker

Then there's other horrible stuff like a Cindershot-needler that shoots 1 needle per shot lol

[crystal iron]

I wish we could do that with Vehicles, a warthog that shoots needler rounds

[shadow turret]

That would be cool, and possibly forgable, though I am not great at forge mechanics like that

[zealous panther]

Wait, so we still can't buy an item outside of bundle in season 4? I don't know what to say.

I guess all this sweet new guns models are going to be in bundles with stuff I don't want... This is sad.

[crystal iron]

I really would like to see a Depending explains how this is not possible from a Game Engineer perspective.

Like I just want to know what exactly is the roadblock that keeps them from allowing a option to buy the item in a bundle by itself.

The problem is when I ask propose such a question there is usually someone in the discord who bites my head off or essentially mocks and Belittles me for asking such things...

[zealous panther]

I mean they sometimes sell stuff outside of bundles in daily rotation. So it is for sure possible. Bundles are just costs more, that's it.

And like I don't want the be rude, but I just really don't get why they can't made normal store like in every other game.

[crystal iron]

That seems like a rather backwards method of sales, bundles although priced higher should give a savings value for buying in bulk.

I know Ghost recon games don't pretty nicely they have bundles but you can select each item to buy on its own in the bundles, to don't have to wait till they sell it to you on its own

[crystal iron]

My guess is old Leadership kinda just hasked together this game and didn't fully think through most aspect,

I don't think 343 given their whole development issues really was prepared to make a true Live service game. This game is sort of a Of you had to put together the concept of something in one week. And than put it together from there kinda thing.

Some people would say they just suck but honestly I think if they had had the time to really flesh out ideas, from the start and stick with that, they could have easily pulled off a solid Live Service game.

But from what it seems the UI itself is not designed with the intent of a Live service.

What I mean by that is In a Live service your UI should be designed kinda like a Lego, where you can go in and swap things around with no problem, change the look add new functions, and so on, those things should be as easy as breathing.

But Halo Infinites Storefront seems to reject that concept, the smallest thing like add a button that allows you to just select items in a bundle and but buy just this item, seems like a gargantuan effort to do..

And that's what I would love to get a reason for.

[zealous panther]

I mean more like the interface problem with the store. It is really good that I now can open and buy stuff from the armour hall but... This is not really the place where I need to search for stuff to buy.

[crystal iron]

If you go on other Social Media, one of the running Jokes for Halo Infinite and why something isn't there is The UI can't handle it... Someone even made a star trek meme aboutnit

[zealous panther]

But again, ATM I'm overall pretty happy with the game. But some things I just don't get.

[crystal iron]

I actually like the Armor hall thing because it lets you directly preview the item there .

I think that might be then testing maybe a Catalogue style store .. but right now it's rather annoying , like I just want the Warmaster Helmet by itself but it only allows me to by it with the whole bundle .

And that's not what I want, and given that it's 2023 and a feature like by it by itself isn't groundbreaking thing sort of frustrates me as how they couldn't do that.

Sometimes I do suspect they never wanted to do that and were just hoping players wouldn't say anything. And programed it to be this restrictive

[crystal iron]

That's where I'm at, a lot of the stuff just from a consumer side feels confusing as to why they didn't just do this or that.

[zealous panther]

Hahahhahah. I think like most of the people just want a warmaster helmet.

[crystal iron]

Right, and I think they know that so they want to try and get in on more money lol.

[zealous panther]

And I'm not buying the bundle because... I just don't want the stuff I don't need... I'd buy waaay more if I can buy outside of bundles.

[crystal iron]

I noticed they do say stuff like oh well this all very difficult to do it takes time but I mean it would be cool if they went and explained to us the whole process. As to why it's difficult.

[crystal iron]

That's would be cool like if we could design our own. Bundles

[zealous panther]

Also I kinda want to make stickers useful. Let me choose the size and place of them, Jesus...

[crystal iron]

Yea there is so much potential for the customization but it still feels very restrictive , Alps the emblem dear God how did we go backwards with emblems... You get like 5 preset colors you can choose, they really took a look at Halo reach and Halo 3 and said Naw we know those are great but we are going to make it worse cus yes that will be awesome lol

I know that's harsh but man I just kinda laugh at Halo Infinites emblem customization.

When I first opened it up I was lienok time to pick my colors expecting to see the color Options, since I figured they would have at least left that for the emblems... Instead I jus gave me like 5 choices. I kinda shook my head and said well guess ill go with the only red they Let me have

[zealous panther]

I just want to use stickers. Better few of them at the same time.

I'd love to put numbers on my ar... But not one giant number...

[crystal iron]

Honestly though by the time Halo Infinite is in a Fully fleshed out state I might be fully invested into Starfeild... like the mkds for that game are going to be insane.

Like I hope we can deploy space mines from our ship so someone can make. Mario Kart mod that turns the Mines into Bananas lol

[crystal iron]

Dude the weapon emblems are so weirdly designed with placement

Thing is I don't think we would ever get answers to why they did some of this because I'm sure the ones who made those choices are not at 343 anymore

Well my sign that I have played enough Halo for the day is upon me, three games in a row lost interest and backed out.

Just asked my kid if she wanted to was going to play Halo Infinite, .... Dude this kids just said naw me and friends think that game sucks ..

I kinda just went well damn, she didn't hold back at all.

She straight up told me Halo is for Old people man .. that hurt man that hurt deep

[zealous panther]

Halo is an arena fps. People don't lay them anymore. That's it. Halo infinite actually the most popular one and almost the only one on the market.

[solid canopy]

Halo is "area", very much rooted in that but not in the same vein as say, Quake or Unreal Tournament

At the end of the day its not like Halo is "irrelevant" its still a well regarded series that is fondly remembered and talked about to this day. The series falling back was inevitable, no series, no matter how strong is gonna be top dog forever

Now has 343i dropped the ball and failed to give proper upkeep to the series in a lot of ways and is that a major reason that bolsted that decline? In my opinion yes. not to scapegoat 343 or Microsoft mind you, they did do a lot of good this past decade and I hate to overlook that, but they are the ones in charge and to be frank, they have screwed up one too many times

[wide trout]

What exactly do you think they screwed up?

I’m mildly curious

[solid canopy]

I mean... The launch of the MCC, Halo 5, and Infinite

[wide trout]

I have a hard time recollecting the launch of Halo 5, what was so bad about it?

MCC I won’t defend lol

[solid canopy]

Lack of content

Not as bad as Infinite mind you

As 5 actually had consistant updates

But multiplayer was painfully lacking in stuff to play, it was just arena and Warzone, with no forge

They also have a bad habit of dropping plotlines, the over reliance on the EU was a bit backwards, and in my opinion they made some poor choices with Halo 4 that were alienating to a lot of fans. (Love a lot of stuff in Halo 4, but I do think that they needed a better approch in a few areas)

[wide trout]

Before I express my agreements and disagreements, what did you find “alienating”?

[solid canopy]

Mainly in the gameplay department and tone

[wide trout]

Gameplay I don’t think really needs elaboration, but what about tone?

[solid canopy]

With Halo 4 I think the game needed to slide into the new version of Halo 343 was trying to establish rather than jump you right into it from the start

Reffering to campaign of course

I've seen the argument that "Reach already established stuff that 4 would go on to do", and I do think that is at least a little fair, Reach was still very much embedded in the original trilogy

[wide trout]

mhmm

[solid canopy]

Plus it was "Halo Reach" and not "Halo 4", being a stand alone title means you're able to do things without being as shackled down as a direct sequel would

I think that a lot of Halo 4 was a bit too drastic for some people and 343 did fail in properly working in or explaining things to let people become accostomed to the new direction of the series

I mean, hell, we don't ever get a proper direct explaination for what the Covenant's deal is in that game other than "a lot can happen in 4 years" and "these covenant seem more fanatical than the ones we fought before"

Those lines on their own aren't necessarily bad, but the fact we never get any proper elaboration on them is kinda just weird and if anything just makes the Storm Covenant feel more like they're there so you can just shoot at something

[wide trout]

Which goes back to the overreliance on the extended universe

[solid canopy]

Exactly

I think 343i got how an EU should function backwards. It seemed like the games were made to bulster the EU instead of having the EU be something to you know, expand the universe

EU material should be something that supports a piece of media, not something that is necessary to understand whats going on

I think this failed the most with Halo 5, which should have been like Halo 2 and let you get a wider grasp of the universe and the current state of affairs, but instead the over reliance on EU material instead didn't let things be explained as organically as it should have been

(Though a part of that is also to blame for Halo 5's writing and narrative being, well, Halo 5)

[wide trout]

Well articulated and respectful

As much as I’d like to defend 343 I can’t find anything you say that I necessarily disagree with

Minus some very subjective stuff like the quality of Halo 5’s story

[solid canopy]

Like I said, I do like a lot of the things 343i have done and don't want to just scapegoat them and say "343 bad! Bungie good!"

I find that mindset to just be dumb

[wide trout]

Agreed

[solid canopy]

For the record Halo 5's story isn't the blight on human achievement some people make it out to be, but I do think it is very weak and failed to properly follow up on Halo 4's story

I would like to say that I much prefer 343's ferm approch to canon over Bungie's more fast and loose approch

[solid canopy]

Also wanna follow up on this rq, that "these covenant seem more fanatical than the ones we've fought before" line does bug me for how it breaks the show and don't tell rule

[wide trout]

I think that moreso comes back to the whole “thrusting the player in without any easing” thing

[solid canopy]

Yeah

[zealous panther]

Pretty much the same as them. And they are also irrelevant.

[wide trout]

Also I don’t mean to interrupt the conversation but it is 2 AM for me and I can feel myself passing out

thank you for staying constructive and articulate, genuinely

it’s such a breath of fresh air in this community

[solid canopy]

My pleasure

👍

Have a good one

I too should probably sleep now

[analog salmon]

Ranked Slayer gonna be interesting

nice to have an arena playlist you can just get AR+Bandit

big objective guy but i have a feeling bandit starts will pull me to this playlist

just so bored of sidekick

i've always though ranked slayer was a bit silly because slayer is a casual mode but tbh playing a casual mode with similar skill players is quite appealing

[left snow]

I hated it the first time through. Probably because it didn't even come close to matching the pre-release build up.

Second time through (four years later) I appreciated it a lot more.

Just not some of the cringey dialogue

[analog salmon]

i went in expecting the worse having heard how terrible it apparently is and it was not that bad

4 and 5 are the weakest campaigns for me but still worth playing and frankly i'd much rather replay 5 then 4

both have their strengths

[left snow]

I do think 343 painted themselves into a corner though. Cortana got way too powerful for the Chief to take down.

While I enjoyed H5... I'm not sure I was looking forward to H6. At least from a Chief / Cortana relationship.

The soft reboot was nicely timed.

[analog salmon]

i just feel like not a lot really happens in 5, i was enjoying it and then it get to the end and I was expecting a bit more

the war on Sanghelios was neat but it didn't really tie into the story

the plot direction wasn't exactly great but i feel like if the story was just more fleshed out itt would have been received a lot better

and the Sanghelios part was a bonus rather then a decent chunk of the game

and granted misleading marketing doesnt help

[left snow]

Yep. That was a beautiful level.

[analog salmon]

yah the settings in the game make it worth playing alonee

[left snow]

I would still love some backstory. Blue team. Osiris. What went down on the Infinity (apart from the Infinity). Lasky. Etc

Would have been perfect for some Campaign DLC. You wouldn't even need to play as the Chief.

Sigh...

[analog salmon]

maybe one day 😔

[versed pollen]

How to fix the halo combat evolved 2001 error? I always try to run it trough the cd but it always get stuck in progress and fail. I am using windows 10 if that helps. Please help me!

[eternal lion]

You can't used it because some logiciel are outdated and considered dangerous by Windows

[versed pollen]

Ow. Thank you!

[crystal iron]

Ok So did the Government and NASA admit Aliens Like not from earth types of species are real, if so ... Are going to have to fight some covenant type race, cus Idk we should just give up lol, we would get smoked

[solid ingot]

what

[shadow turret]

Honestly, I'm the complete opposite
I do not like the AR or the Bandit all that much, and especially not in a ranked setting, I much prefer the BR, since it's easier to hit anything with, and the Sidekick is good for shorter range

[crystal iron]

What?

[sullen anvil]

When you buy the S1 battlepass, do you get an additional 1,000 credits back to purchase the next one, or do you need to buy another pack?

I already owned and completed the pass

[shadow turret]

S1 does not give CR, S2, 3, and soon 4 do

[hushed nest]

i was at Team slayer today in halo infinite and i heard someone playing Beyoncé Halo song.
now i can't stop imagining Master Chief doing the all the single ladies dance..

[fathom creek]

halo 3 or halo 4 and 5

[ruby knoll]

4

[sullen anvil]

3

[fathom creek]

3 is the best

lets be honest

[onyx latch]

Nah.

Nostalgia is a poor scaffolding for 'best'.

[crystal iron]

They are honest. They just have their own opinion that is different from yours lol.

I would probably choose 3 though

Halo 5 would be on a second place for it’s gameplay and multiplayer

[fathom creek]

Yes but halo 3 brought tons of things to the table

it was the foundation for all the new innovations in the next games

[smoky wave]

The same with H4 and H5 in some areas

[fathom creek]

it brought forge, custom games, new sandbox elements, new vehicles

[smoky wave]

Specially with H5 and Forge

[fathom creek]

tons of things

[smoky wave]

The same goes with H5 then

[crystal iron]

All of these games brought many new things

[fathom creek]

halo 3 brought tons of stuff tho

[onyx latch]

Literally nobody is saying it didn't.

[fathom creek]

halo 3 was the foundation

[onyx latch]

Nah.

2 is the foundation for modern Halo as we know it, 3 added some bells and whistles that are also consistent. Mapmaking was old hat for games and 3's was a watered down version of that.

[crystal iron]

Wait… wasn’t this talk about which game is the best? I mean, yeah it brought a lot of things but it doesn’t immediately make it the best halo for everyone

[pearl moth]

Hi I am doing halo CE LASO solo and I am on Truth and Recon but on the PC version the save and quit method does not work, the level restarted and I had already cleared the grenade jump

Any idea what is going on?

[sleek hatch]

Halo 3 brought some cool stuff. Although competition wise halo 2 and halo 5 are probably top tier.
Forge wise, halo 3 had a decent forge, Reach is where it made an impact imo,and then it just grew each game.

But the best halo is hard to chose. I loved reach, halo 4 and halo 5 multiplayer. Infinite's gameplay is actually amazing(though I do miss some of h5). Campaign wise, halo 2, reach, and odst will always be on the top of my list. When it comes to forge halo infinite forge is hands down the best.

[ruby knoll]

5 was the first decent forge

In terms of in game map editing

[outer sand]

I feel like we need to clear up what we mean by best game. Are we looking at innovation and impact, or are we looking at most fun to play?

[magic night]

I think that's entirely subjective. People seek different things from games and gaming, which are all valid ways for them to personally critique the game.

[sullen anvil]

Both Infinite and 5s forge are super super good and all, but it really stepped away from the casual fun and goofing around to be had in forge too. Now it’s sort of specifically designed for map and model making instead of just being a sandbox to toy around with physic objects and just throw things around

forge is a little jarring too since it just gives you a blank flat canvas instead of some terrain to help you get the imagination going. That and there are not really any Structure and premade buildings in Forge anymore either

[coarse dagger]

There's loads of prefabs in the Content Browser that you can pull into your maps
https://www.halowaypoint.com/halo-infinite/ugc/browse?assetKind=Prefab&page=1

[solid canopy]

The key difference is that Halo is very much based around a sandbox and how the player utilizes that to their advantage. Quake is much more based on pure player skill and proficientcy, you only can rely on your movement/guns and knowlage of the map, while Halo follows the golden triangle + additional sand box elements like vehicles

[hollow grove]

does anyone know why 27ms on infinite acts like its 100 ping?

its the only game i have that lags on such low ping

[lucid flint]

Who knows oosu, who knows

[hollow grove]

is it desync? or it that complete different?

[young glen]

Big Team Battle or every mode?

[eternal lion]

netcode

[analog salmon]

i feel like its mostly just persistent latency

like you say it feels like 100ms

ping isnt your actual latency

ping is a simple ping

how long it takes the server to respond

so that's the minium latency but there's a lot more going on in terms of the server registering your inputs

[sullen anvil]

Yeah but with how broken Forge is, moving these objects around, undoing mistakes is a fatal mistake because the building just shakes itself to pieces.

you can’t as easily work with prefabs like you can with prebuilt structures like what Reach/4 had

[hollow grove]

so is it my wifi or the game itself?

[analog salmon]

people will say its just ur internet and they have no problems

but imo the game is laggy and my guess is some people arent as sensitive to it

BTB in particular is consistently laggy feeling for me

[hollow grove]

yeah btb i reached 100 ms

normal fiesta i only get 27 ms

[analog salmon]

i dont know if i rubber band every BTB match but i feel like rubber banding is so common in BTB your brain just starts ignoring it

you wanna make sure your using local matchmaking if your sensitive to latency

its an option in settings to avoid higher ping servers

[devout kite]

Will we have to pay for the legendary effect set since the bulldog replace it in the battle pass

Or season pass holders will get it automatically

Like I’m just curious that’s all

[young glen]

Same.

I find BTB unplayable in this game, which is a shame as Halo 5's BTB was flawlessly smooth from a networking quality perspective.

[sullen anvil]

Will MCC update H3s in game leaderboard to have the correct font (the black outlines on the text was much more apparent and thick) and add back the ping connection next to the players name?

[glacial tartan]

Maybe. Maybe Not. 343 hasnt provided any information on any updates for MCC, but they have vaguely alluded to the potential possibility of maybe eventually possibly updating it.

[sullen anvil]

I’m sure they still have lots of other major updates and restorations planned. There are still lots of inconsistencies going around, small UI bugs, more QOL updates, etc etc

I mainly just want the original leaderboard for H3 ported back into MCC

another update id like to see added is to make the forge monitor able to phase through only forge placed objects

[zealous panther]

What you said about quake is literally a sandbox. The only thing halo add is vehicles and they are not on most maps. This is same games in their core gameplay. Controle the map, use everything to your advantage.

[solid canopy]

What I'm trying to get it is Quake handles its sandbox/gameplay differently than Halo is all

Halo doesn't have the same skill gap or strong learning curb games like Quake and Unreal have

Quake and Unreal are much more designed with "Gamers" in mind, while Bungie's original intent with multiplayer was to treat it more as a party game with much more ease of access

[crystal iron]

Hey is there a link that can take mention a list of what's coming in season 4?

Unpopular Opinion, the new Armor core for Season 4 is Mid... I want more.cores that look like the MK7. But I have a personal biase for that.

[slow walrus]

why not just use the MK7 then

[crystal iron]

I do, I'm just staring my opinion on the new core, and how I would love to see cores reassembling the MK7, honestly I would just want the Master Chiefs armor as a core.i would never use any other core of I had that one

What I mean is I would like to see more cores that have that Tanky Spartan look.

Honestly ones full cross core becomes a thing I'll finally be able to nail the right armor look

And Al my opponents will get to see it in All it's glory as I T Bag them

[whole summit]

Remember playing with the Master Cheif helmet on makes you better at Halo

[ivory glacier]

Settings still getting reset randomly. WHY is that still a thing??

[devout kite]

It’s most likely getting fix on Tuesday

[tepid latch]

really hope we get some fix or acknowledgement of the still persistent Ai reset bug

[crystal iron]

I wonder if Halo Infinite will get mods, I'm over at the Starfeild discord and people already talking about making Body Mods what have bounce and Recoil physics lol

[wide trout]

Bethesda games are kinda known for their modding potential tbf lol

I would love to get a crack at the Slipspace engine myself though

[crystal iron]

The Starfeild Mods are going to be so crazy.

[wide trout]

Indeed

I’ve been thinking about making a few of my own now that I actually know a thing or two about gamedev

Maybe I’ll mod in some Halo weapons you can find

[lapis eagle]

Will I be able to buy season 3 season pass after this season?

[crystal iron]

yes

you can buy all passes

[crystal iron]

it must be really good if the devs struggle to maintain live service updates

[sullen anvil]

Why do I keep getting garbage randoms???

just got on after a week of lame games and I’m still getting god awful teammates and literal god enemies

seriously what is the deal here

[devout kite]

I also believe you lose the free track after a season ends

[median flame]

hello

[sullen anvil]

someone please what goes into the science of MCC matchmaking

I don’t understand what I did to deserve such trash teams and tryhards for an opposing team. Instantly ruins my night

[open umbra]

Since the cadet coatings are fully cross core, and the layers on them seems simpler than the others, what if they fully expand the cadet coatings and add a section for us to customise with cadet coatings' primary colors as primary and secondary colors (same with the emblems)?

[sullen anvil]

7 games in a row, all my teammates going negative. What literally goes into matchmaking in this stupid game

it’s been like a week later since I’ve even touched matchmaking and I haven’t gotten 1 single fair match

this game is so garbage

[wide trout]

Please be constructive in your criticisms

[sullen anvil]

I was totally in the zone too of just casually playing for fun but getting bodied game after game just completely obliterated my mood

[sullen anvil]

why even bother anyway? None of it’s gonna get taken into consideration

[median flame]

now i don't do classed matchmaking because i all time get noob players, so i don't wan't to loose my rank

[sullen anvil]

I don’t even play ranked. I’m just trying to casually play halo. That word is so alien nowadays

[wide trout]

Because we prefer our communities not to be toxic. You can dislike the game whilst still being constructive.

[sullen anvil]

People have been giving feedback for years now

[grave ether]

Maybe the game thinks you are so amazing that it has strong faith that you have a strong back and can carry them all to victory

[median flame]

now i am thinking did at the begining i was a noob player at halo infinite but with playing it, i was going more good and becoming a pro player.

[sullen anvil]

Here’s the thing tho, I am not a god player at all!

and if I have to carry teams all the time, why even bother if it’s gonna put me in a garbage mood

seriously I should be matched with and against people who have the SAME skill level

not give me garbage teammates and godlike enemies

[grave ether]

If you're not a good player then how do you carry?

[sullen anvil]

it’s been a week since I’ve touched multiplayer, so things should’ve settled down now but no, 7 games in a row and I’m still getting horrible teammates who idle, betray, or leave

[median flame]

same

[grave ether]

Are you playing ranked?

[sullen anvil]

No!

I don’t understand ;-;

Going through like the different stages of grief playing halo

[median flame]

i am ranked silver (because i only getted noobs so if i have get persons of my level, i was be gold ;-; )

[sullen anvil]

I’ve never touched a single ranked game in my time playing Halo

I’m not a sweat player at all. That’s just not my playstyle

[median flame]

ok

[grave ether]

I just ask if it was ranked because you mentioned teammates betraying

[sullen anvil]

even when I go in with a good mood, chill behavior and I’m kicked back on the couch, my mood gets tarnished 8 games later because I’m nonstop bodied

[sullen anvil]

no I keep getting clueless 117s

some games I’m left with no choice but to idle because the second I leave spawn I just get bodied by a rocket or snipe

[median flame]

i am good with sniper and rocket (:

[sullen anvil]

I can kinda hit some nasty snipers too but that’s not the point, the point is- how do I break this cycle. It’s literally driving me away from multiplayer

On average if I played like 10 games a night, 9 of those would be losses and 1 would be a tie

[grave ether]

I have the most fun when I squad up with others

[sullen anvil]

ah yeah that’s the other issue. I wanna play with friends and people I know but uhhhhh no one plays mcc anymore and 343 just pushing away casual/social players isn’t helping either

How dare I have a fun relaxed time playing this “highly competitive game”

[grave ether]

I didn't see you had mentioned MMC, my bad.

[sullen anvil]

Same issue goes with Infinite too

that game isn’t off the hook either

Infinite is just screaming anti social players

[grave ether]

I find the best relaxing and chill games are single player since there's no anxiety about wins or disappointment from being paired up with someone that brings the flag to the wrong side

Or custom games

[sullen anvil]

But- I like halo, I love its multiplayer to death but these constant garbage matches just don’t make me want to play anymore

[sullen anvil]

broken in Infinite since launch

and custom games aren’t the same anymore

[onyx latch]

Then take a break.

Like, for a day, for a week.

[sullen anvil]

That what I just got done doing

[onyx latch]

Halo's still gonna be there.

[sullen anvil]

I came back after a week and nothing changed

[onyx latch]

Then grow thicker skin.

[sullen anvil]

the hell does that mean

[magic night]

Might just be that there aren't players at your skill level to matchmake you with. Instead of giving you no matches, it's giving you the next best thing.

[onyx latch]

Skin + thickness. Can't simplify it further.

[sullen anvil]

So do I purposely throw matches to get worser enemies? How fun

explains the idling

[crystal iron]

everyone is good with rockets

[grave ether]

I always just assume the one idling had an emergency bathroom run to take care of

[sullen anvil]

That too

some games I have no choice but to idle. I just set my controller, leave the room and look for a drink or bite to eat in my kitchen since I know there’s nothing I can do with the games I’m getting

[grave ether]

Yeah, that's not the answer

That just compounds the issue

[onyx latch]

^

[sullen anvil]

Then what am I supposed to do???????

I die trying to save the game

[onyx latch]

Cut off your nose to spite your face, I wager

[sullen anvil]

what the hell???

[grave ether]

You accept the game for what it is and not what you want it to be and either find a way to enjoy it or play something that actually makes you happy. Venting here won't solve your problem if the problem is you don't enjoy playing

[magic night]

The system can detect purposeful manipulation like throwing matches after a few matches and that can potentially lead to a ban.

What you may need to do is accept you might be in a low skill bracket with very few players to match you with for fair matches, assuming that could be the cause. It may also have to do with your connection, the times of day you are playing, etc.

[crystal iron]

This has happened to me, as I dare to eat Taco bell right before I game. And the power of the Bell compels me.

[sullen anvil]

But I do enjoy playing Halo. I love this game to death

[onyx latch]

I don't get how taco bell ruins people

Like, am I just built different, or what?

[grave ether]

Me either and I have an autoimmune problem that attacks my gut

[onyx latch]

Good ol Chrones

[grave ether]

Never had an issue with the bell

[sullen anvil]

I don’t know how to tackle this one either. I’m basically in a headlock with my skill level and there is no escaping for me.

[onyx latch]

And my favorite thing from them is a Quesorito

[sullen anvil]

I also purposely play later at night to get less sweaty games. But that’s not solving my issue either

[crystal iron]

I'm at that point, maybe it's because I'm getting older but FPS PVP is starting to kinda lose is listed on me.

Now personally I would love them to take a crack at open world but based around our own but with our MP Spartan.

I mean I know it won't happen, it if I could have a game made for Halo it would be a fully immersive game

[onyx latch]

That is the exact opposite of when you should play to avoid 'sweaty games'.

[sullen anvil]

dude it’s sweaty games nonstop now. Theres nothing I can do

[onyx latch]

Around 4pm east coast is preferable.

I mean you could get better.

[magic night]

Yeah. Playing late at night generally means less players. Less players means less opportunities for even matches.

[sullen anvil]

Oh yeah and only just get worser teammates to carry, sounds excellent 👍

[onyx latch]

I carry regularly and don't mind tbh.

[sullen anvil]

Good for you

[onyx latch]

I like feeling superior to my teammates.

[magic night]

Playing afternoons to evenings is when there are more players and more opportunities for even matches

[sullen anvil]

I want to play on even ground and have a fun time

[onyx latch]

... Is killing the enemy not fun?

[grave ether]

The more even the ground, the sweatier the match can be

[sullen anvil]

Yeah it is, when you get the chance and not get constant outplayed and double teamed

[onyx latch]

Sounds more like a skill issue in chair, not matchmaking, if that's the problem.

[sullen anvil]

like Rok explained, im pretty sure it’s my skill level right now

[grave ether]

Are you rushing in alone or are you trying to help out your team where you notice a weakness?

[onyx latch]

^

[sullen anvil]

dude I’m flying solo, you really think I’m gonna get coordinated teams?

[onyx latch]

I usually do quite well for myself because I"m a cagey and pragmatic player, not an aggressive one.

You don't need direct coordination to excel, just gamesense.

[sullen anvil]

Which none of my teammates ever have

[onyx latch]

It's not on them to manage your gamesense.

[sullen anvil]

because once again, keep getting bad teammates and godlike coordinated enemies

[onyx latch]

You run face first into a rocket launcher, that's your L.

[sullen anvil]

dude you seriously aren’t getting it

[grave ether]

If I notice a n00bish player keeps getting picked on and they are feeding then enemy kills, they are my new battle buddy. I stick to them. Help them. And at worst, use them as a meat shield and clean up their kills they can't confirm

[onyx latch]

^ This guy gets it.

Teammates that can't communicate are just teammates who need a helping hand.

[sullen anvil]

usually I do try doing this too but then I notice it’s always a double or triple team every single encounter

[onyx latch]

Then follow a different idiot.

[sullen anvil]

same issue

[onyx latch]

then the issue is in the chair.

[sullen anvil]

then what am I supposed to do. Tell me right now

[onyx latch]

I have.

And Skyfi has.

And even Rok has.

[sullen anvil]

if it’s get good, that only increases the problem

there’s nothing I can do. I am in a headlock rn

[onyx latch]

Then you aren't looking hard enough.

[sullen anvil]

I seriously don’t understand what ur cryptic messages are trying to go for

[onyx latch]

We're not being cryptic.

[grave ether]

Even just a simple turning on your mic and telling your teammate "hey your shield is broke, let it recharge while I cover you" can be helpful.
I still remember the first time a random teammate did that for me. Helped change my golden retriever chasing a ball mentality and slowed down and followed his lead

[sullen anvil]

they aren’t, you are

[onyx latch]

We're saying to play more conservatively and less aggressively.

[sullen anvil]

yeah I do that too

[onyx latch]

Not by how you complain.

[sullen anvil]

My style fluctuates based on the situation

[onyx latch]

Everyone's does.

But the difference between a good player and a bad player is when and where it does.

The more control over a fight you have, the better off you are.

[sullen anvil]

dude then seriously what am I supposed to do here, what am I learning from this conversation other than I have a skill issue

[onyx latch]

To get smarter with your engagement pattern.

Like, it's fine to have a skill issue, seriously

I'm being frank, that's okay

[grave ether]

[onyx latch]

I don't judge for it.

[mystic bison]

Best game for splatters in mcc matchmaking?

[onyx latch]

BTB

Most vehicles, most eople

[onyx latch]

TBF, Nett's asking for solutions.

[sullen anvil]

I just don’t see how I can improve as a player when I’m always but in a fight that is destined for failure

[onyx latch]

Because you're allowing yourself to get into doomed fights more regularly than not.

A smarter engagement pattern comes with practice and forethought.

It isn't magic and it isn't coding.

It's not quite as simple as avoid death, and avoid dumb allies. It's knowing what the enemy might do, and knowing what you have on your side.

[sullen anvil]

Okay, let’s say I’m in a better position than I was before, but I’m still having the problem of having to carry entire arena or btb games and I’m getting drained from it cuz it’s not an experience I want to constantly have. What do I do

[onyx latch]

Then you simply suffer until you learn better.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

You need to find engagement in getting better or you can never grow.

[sullen anvil]

But I’m a casual player, I don’t want to have to be on my top game every single match. It’s just something I don’t enjoy

[onyx latch]

Then you are destined to suffer.

[sullen anvil]

So yeah, I kinda always figured I had no place in Halo.

[onyx latch]

I didn't say Halo.

I meant overall.

[sullen anvil]

So you’re saying I just can’t be a casual player at all and not kickback?

[onyx latch]

I play Halo casually.

[sullen anvil]

sounds like you don’t

[magic night]

In that case, just accept that you aren't a very good player and don't let losses get to you. Ignore them and just focus on small personal wins, like getting X kills or dying less than x times, etc

[onyx latch]

I actually haven't even touched ranked since Season 1.

And then I got Plat.

[sullen anvil]

I do try that, but it still sucks just getting bodied and my motivation slowly dwindles down more and more

[onyx latch]

I'm good at games because I'm very good at understanding the enemy's headspace.

[sullen anvil]

Doesn’t help either that challenges ask me to win games

[onyx latch]

And, well, not to put too fine a point on it?

You're too hard on yourself, and too hard on your allies.

It's a game. If you want to get better at it, you need to play more cautiously, rather than harder. Fight smarter, not harder.

I'd think it's a shame if you just give up. Half the fun, to me at least, is overcoming the adversity.

[sullen anvil]

I don’t want to give up

[onyx latch]

And I wish I could tell you something that doesn't sound so... Binary.

[sullen anvil]

No I get it

[onyx latch]

honestly it's something I actually understood from Mechwarrior Online of all games

You need time and experience.

It's the one greatest weapon you can ever acquire.

Information is an ammunition like any other.

[sullen anvil]

hang on just tried sending you a dm uhhhh can I send a quick request for a moment

[onyx latch]

I mean I don't know what I could say in DMs that wouldn't be as useful here

It's a simple concept.

It's simple, but saying that belies the fact you need to actually get the concept.

[sullen anvil]

Nono I wasn’t asking for more advice

[onyx latch]

Hmn.

i mean

As an additional. You sound like one of my friends.

[sullen anvil]

I do?

[onyx latch]

He got super frustrated at Halo infinite and ultimately ragequit.

Because he didn't pay attention to his teammates and the overall flow of a fight, and got discouraged.

[sullen anvil]

Yeah I can kinda see myself creeping towards that

[onyx latch]

And, in a microcosm, I get why he did, but it's also a good example of why it's important to pay strict attention.

You need to find the entertainment in the fight. To find the entertainment in figuring it out. It's a puzzle, like anything in life, and it's been that way since Halo CE in 2001.

[grave ether]

The best is figuring out the greatest repulser of doom spots

[onyx latch]

That's fun, but not everything.

[sullen anvil]

Oh I got those down like the back of my hand (back of the hand is a bit of a stretch actually)

[onyx latch]

I'd argue knowing good cover spots-not concealment or avoidance, but just simply knowing where to take the best cover in a fight and to control your side-is more important.

[grave ether]

Including repulsing yourself upwards and flanking them as they run underneath

[onyx latch]

I mean, again. Playing MWO as much as I did-with itslack of respawns and losing in the mechlab, IE before you fight-made me realize a lot of problems with my original engagement behavior in games.

[onyx latch]

This is an essential knowledge gap.

It's downright necessary. You need to always be thinking ahead. If I do X, and enemy does Y, what do I do at Y.

[sullen anvil]

sneaking from above is a pretty good one too, or just putting myself in spots you wouldn’t normally expect someone in (I’m spiderman)

[onyx latch]

I mean, that's already halfway there.

Unexpected engagement angle is a significant factor in success.

You start the engagement, you dictate the angle, etc etc, and it's already stacked in your favor.

[sullen anvil]

I did a couple of those on citadel, but not too many times because I don’t want the enemy to notice a trend

[onyx latch]

You should always do it as long as you consistently get away with it.

I'd consistently wait til the enemy reengaged before I continued prior engagement patterns in MWO. It's harder to get away with it in Halo, but the same concept applies.

[edgy forum]

I miss the old boot up screens/main menu to old Halo games.

[glacial tartan]

https://halome.nu/

[wide trout]

that’s pretty cool actually

[edgy forum]

Also, I just realized this from a video, but for Infection what if there were class based floods? Like you have the spores, the carriers, the tanks, etc.

[wide trout]

The Flood isn’t a factor in Halo Infinite’s infection

[solid canopy]

I actually thought about something similar to that myself at one point, having Flood be a separate mode to Infection, with the Flood having multiple forms and having a little bit of a The Thing's nack for shifting into grotesque creature after grotesque creature, why not have a game mode where one player spreads the Flood and different infected players have different forms with different weapons or smth like that. It was a half baked idea that stayed in my head for all of three minutes

If anything I would maybe save the Flood for a PvE mode or smth. I always wanted to see a firefight mode where players move between arenas for each wave, maybe the flood would serve as a means of keeping players on their toes and moving forward as it spreads. (This is another half baked idea)

[crystal iron]

Hey so Is Forge AI not coming in Season 4, just curious.

I'm not really a fan of Infection, so new maps and the new abilities are kinda the only highlight for me.

Outside of that I was really hoping to see some update on PVE mode and Forge AI.

Games shaping up though, eh The wait continues than

[coarse dagger]

It was being looked into / worked on, but I don't believe it's confirmed for Season 4

[crystal iron]

Oh ok, haven't taken a look at the battlepass preview either I'm assuming it's mostly stuff for the new core.

[tepid latch]

Its a good Mix of the new core stuff and some MkVii stuff 🫡

we're getting a Halo 3 Pilot Helmet and Shoulders and a chest piece that looks like itll fit well the Firefall helm

Im pretty excited for Infection tbh, I play halo a lot for the party games. so Infection, Fiesta and some Skirmish modes have been so cool to see come to the game

hope we get stuff like Jenga and Death Run in that Minigame playlist whenever that comes

[crystal iron]

I was always a griffball kinda guy, I maybe played 1 game of infection in all of Halo, never liked it much.

And it doesn't seem like Griffball is coming anytime soon

[tepid latch]

Oh i forgot about griffball too!! they're adding an actual ball object to the game for minigame creation so we might be getting it sooner than you think!

maybe not a dedicated playlist, might just be included in minigames. but who's to say at the moment with such little info about it all

[crystal iron]

It it will most likely only be in custom games which means I don't earn XP, I really dislike how Custom games doesn't progress the battlepass, so many games I'd play more of if that were the case, like I wouldn't bother with Regualr MP at that point

[tepid latch]

Again, i wouldnt speak too soon on that with them looking at creating a playlist for those sorts of modes. MCC has griffball as a rotational option for Matchmaking so id assume it might come and go like that in infinite

[crystal iron]

Oh. Yea, I don't keep high expectations in terms the game, I have already kinda expect that I won't really be very invested in the game aka the day 1 feeling, until season 7

Hopefully they didn't axe the whole expanding the academy thing. And maybe expanding the storytelling to more than just two cutscenes per season.

The whole here's a short cutscenes, now go play some rounds, here's another cutscenes feels more like a COD style thing. Halo deserves more fleshed out story cutscenes

Ok so I wouldn't say Low Expectations but more like I don't expect to be flooded with content anytime soon, maybe after season 7 we will be getting hit with tons of content.

I might change my Discord name but not sure to what

[fringe flame]

for some reason my halo mcc isnt downloading on microsoft store

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[zealous panther]

What kinds of tons of contents you expecting?

[crystal iron]

Well more PVE stuff the Academy being expanded, maybe the story stuff being more than just two cutscenes per Season. Doing more events. And Free cosmetics that are more themed to current calenders stuff.

Also possibly more Devs vs Players type of games.

Perhaps re exploring things like Spartan ops, and warzone fire fight stuff, I actually did like the Spartans ops weekly episodic thing, would love it to be more focused on our Spartan.

But none of this is logically possible at the current moment but maybe around season 7 they will have the resources to tackle more things

Oh also adding more weapons to the sandbox. Again right now most likely not possible

Also Spartan companies , commendation and rewards , Spartan company challenges, clan wars, the academy could easily become a social Hub and really bring back that community feel

[zealous panther]

Realistically I don't see most of this will be the case. And not really needed tbh.

[crystal iron]

Needed or not it would be great additions, they did say they wanted to expand the academy,

But again this is stuff that I would think would be looked at once they are more beefed up with resources

The game doesn't just have to be a PvP bare bones 2 cutscenes per season game, the more they expand the better

And a social Hub would be amazing for the social side of things, mainly because we are not getting pre and post game lobbies like we had in the Halo 3, Reach day.

So a social Hub is a great substitute for that, a place where you can drop in Meet new people check out armor set ups, maybe party up, and tackle a PVE mode.

[stone star]

That'd be something to look forward to in 7 years

[edgy forum]

I think the best Infection peak was either Halo Reach or 5

[crystal iron]

Right now the social scene is dead, you jump into a match play with some Randoms once the march is over you all get scattered to the wind and you get a whole new team...

[edgy forum]

But the problem with Infection for me is when I play the zombies and it’s not fun dying over and over again

[stone star]

That's every game though

[crystal iron]

Halo 3 and Halo reach would keep the teams together after the match, and you could either leave or stay.

And troll each other

[stone star]

Yeah but what AAA shooter within the past 5 to 10 years u seen with one

[crystal iron]

They had pre and post game lobbies but that's not going to happen anymore with Halo Infinite, it won't make sense with how fast they want to get you in and out of matches

[crystal iron]

I know I'm saying the social Hub would be a better substitute, Halo thrived when it had a social aspect to it.

[stone star]

Halo thrived when that was the type of game people were looking to play

[crystal iron]

The Crap talk after each match was sometimes funny yes it did get out of hand sometimes but it was mostly just the most random stuff

I'm saying though for the PVE side of things a social Hub would be a nice touch.

But the game does need it's PVE aspect, there is still a PVE community,

I think they are working on something, but not sure. I know Forge AI is going to be wild for PavE custom game modes

Halo Infinite has so much more potential outside of PVP jump into round end round get new team

[stone star]

It's got potential sure, but lacks the care for anyone to do anything with it

[crystal iron]

It's not great to pigeon hole a franchise

[crystal iron]

My original comment was based on the aspect that by season 7 we may start seeing this kinda care put into it. Right now they are very under staffed and still fixing so many things.

I know they stated that they separated campaign and MP so updates can be smoother.

So That alone is great progress

[smoky wave]

You know, I usually don't care that much about Firefight but after playing the campaign and seeing how good the gameplay loop for that I would like to see some Firefight mode

[crystal iron]

The Potential is almost infinite... No pun intended... Or was there lol..
But I mean they could explore Firefight with aspects of Spartan ops and warzone...

And like I said they did state they wanted to expand the Academy portion of the game.

Imagine with Pelicans you can put it in autopilot and Airdrop out of it, like recreate the Intro to Halo 5, or that Air insert from the TV show...

Drop into a banished base and just go crazy lol...

They can also explore more about afterwards Osiris and blue team, the campaign really left us hanging

[stone star]

I'm not so hopeful about this game tbh

I may be wrong but I think the 10 year plan thing is being scrapped and they're just moving on to the next project

I wouldn't be surprised if forge ai is the extent of the pve content we get for this game

Changes to the academy can also mean anything as well

[crystal iron]

If anything they either need to really beef up 343 with resources and or give them like 3 or 4 other studios to help them rebuild the game or develop the next one.

They really can't leave then hanging

I mean Modern Warfare 2 had like 7 or 8 studios and. If ones not just some hole in the walls ones, working on that game, and for the most part content wise the game was insane. In under the first year the game has like 10 new weapons.

343 needs that same level of support. Honestly I think that's the new standard to meet expectations of a live service game, multiple studios to sort of take more of the burden

I could be wrong though but did 343 essentially undertake Halo Infinites development by themselves like no other studios really helped or did they have a few outside 3rd party help

[stone star]

Outside 3rd party

Not to the same extent as what cod gets but they weren't totally isolated

[crystal iron]

But yea I think by Season 7, 343 will have essentially finished building the foundation for being able to kind adona true love service meaning UI limitations will not be a thing and content additions will be more fluid

And dare I say maybe Being able to go into bundles and selecting individual items...

I think they are doing the ground work for a more cataloged style store. But instead of a new store front it's will be built into the customization Armory

Live service*

Freaking auto correct changes live to Love lol... But Johnson was always about that Love Service lol

Bam chika wham wham

[open umbra]

Just curious, are there any other game studios had been collaborating with 343 for their FPS titles? I know there's Certain Affinity for the multiplayer side, Saber Interactive for the remaster versions, Splash Damage and Ruffian Games for the mcc.
Maybe Microsoft and 343 can have some negotiation with the Saber, Splash and Ruffian to help improving infinite after they finish their own projects since they have the experiences working with them.

[magic night]

You know there's an edit button so you can just go back and fix mistakes in the original message?

[crystal iron]

I'm like half awake and at work so my whole concept of stuff is off lol

I'm also back and forth between 3 discords right now so some I just kinda type in corrections quickly

[worthy parcel]

So hyped for Tuesday

[crystal iron]

Someone stated they did have some outside help but it wasn't MW2 size help.

They really do need that TLC and Outside resources galore.

You know Halo Is the Xbox launcher man, it deserves a plethora of Resources

[outer sand]

I doubt it

But this should probably be taken outside

[crystal iron]

Honestly though, at least they made it known, that they are aware that the Halo Community was a bit concerned with the future of Halo Infinite. When they addressed the absence of Halo at the showcase.

However I do notice they rarely address the future of Halo Specifically to Halo Infinite... They always just mention. Halo as a whole...

So this is where I'm kinda back and forth, am I reassured about the continue future of Halo as a franchise... Yes...

am I 100% confident that Halo Infinite specially has a long future. Not so much, I'm more like 60/40 on that one in terms of confidence.

[outer sand]

I hope it does
It's a great game, just needs a little polishing

But it seems it may be harder to polish then any of us could've realized

[crystal iron]

Yea. Me too, but I can't help but notice their choice in words, like they really try to avoid stating Halo Infinite specifically in regards to the future of the Halo Franchise...

Also for the most part, every major public statement is usually combed over by a PR team so the wording in it is very purposeful.

[crystal iron]

I said this earlier but I think right now they are setting up the foundation to be able to just easily swap in an dput updates with was and drop in content easily... Even change UI stuff to kinda give new Expereinces... So by season 7 it might be all done

[glacial tartan]

Its guaranteed a long future, no? Since it takes months/years to implement anything

[crystal iron]

I have a feeling that's something the new Leadership at 343 is trying to fix.

With campaign being split from MP they no longer have to worry a out a MP breaking the campaign side of things. Essentially they are setting up the foundation to be able implement things potentially on a weekly basis... And give it that real Live Service feel.

Or I could be completely wrong in my theory and everything just falls apart again...

I guess only time will tell

[magic night]

I doubt they'll be aiming for major weekly updates. That kind of stuff is unachievable without a lot of manpower or a lot of crunch.

[ruby knoll]

Yeah wtf

Expecting major weekly updates is insane

As is alot of the stuff I just read in the scrollback

Not to mention utterly uninformed

343 already has support studios. Mainly Skybox Labs

[sullen kiln]

Season 4 launches on <t:1687284000:F> which is <t:1687284000:R>

[sullen anvil]

What team do Infected spawn on in H3?

put together a map on sandbox, and set down an Attackers team spawn (im assuming that’s the Infected team) and when starting the game, as an alpha zombie, I still spawned outside the play area

The map is situated in the basement and I still spawn on the surface

[devout kite]

We’re 48 hours away from season 4

[fallen flame]

absolutely crazy

[analog salmon]

Unfriggenbelievable

[ember valve]

Is fracture firewall broken? I don't have all the items, but I don't have any more challenges for it

[signal ivy]

is this your first week doing the event?

you can only unlock 10 tiers per event week and this was the final event week

[ember valve]

I'd done some of it before, but ig it wasn't enough for now, RIP

[clever ember]

when's dysnc gonna be fix I still get shot behind walls every now and then

[devout kite]

Will the settings reset glitch be fix on Tuesday?

[novel basalt]

How do you even board a moving vehicle without getting splattered from them moving at 1mph?

[onyx latch]

Moving smarter, not harder.

[novel basalt]

Wrong answer.

[onyx latch]

Wrong attitude.

[novel basalt]

The correct answer is fixing the physics.

[devout kite]

Or get out of the way

[onyx latch]

^

[onyx latch]

I remember that answer being a sad no, but we haven't seen the patch notes yet, so there's still a smidge of hope.

[devout kite]

I wish 343 would release the patch notes the day before an update be release

[novel basalt]

Why does mid-match reporting take you to the Edge app? 😂

[outer sand]

Not really
You're not supposed to run right into a moving vehicle XD
Boarding was never supposed to be easy, it takes some finesse

[novel basalt]

That's not the point. Vehicles somehow splatter people when they're barely even moving.

If a car hit you at 2mph, you wouldn't die.

[smoky wave]

Skill issue, just move

[outer sand]

Stop running into moving vehicles head on my dude

Also stop with the clown emotes. Sure, the physics might be slightly exaggerated, but it's how the game was designed and balanced. The answer to your question is practice, patients, and a bit of thought before action

[grave ether]

But if a car ran over you at 2mph (which is less than the average adult walking speed) you probably would be dead. So in that sense, it kinda makes sense

[misty vale]

Lol imagine thinking splatters are too easy tho

[signal ivy]

wait, I thought people loved CE MP

[open umbra]

Well, it's the game design that we can't expect everything to follow our logic.
If all the in game physics fully obeys the real life logic, then we shouldn't have those insane launch clips made by Mint Blitz.

[magic night]

Regarding the initial question about boarding, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the game didn't let you hijack a vehicle if it was moving above a certain speed. I feel like I remember this being a thing in each game.

[crystal iron]

The way I see it, MP is a Spartan Wargames Simulation so, your Armor and the world physics is tuned to make for harder Training is why our Spartans can't keep up with warthogs at ful sprint. Or how the vehicles damage us more. Train harder than you expect to fight logic

[elder yew]

Does anybody know if the complete mateches challenge also counts toward bootcamp mode?

[celest heron]

it'd be nice if I could stop getting Cliffhanger so much.

[elder yew]

Point for future - Boot-camp does not count for completed matches for some reason.

[crystal iron]

Why does my AI keep reseting to butler

[wide trout]

it’s a known issue

[crystal iron]

Truly is annoying

[lime robin]

If the challenge says "in PvP", then out doesn't count for Bot Bootcamp

[fresh gale]

Is there no one playing btb right now?

[languid yarrow]

lessssssssssssssssssss gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[wraith willow]

y'know what would be cool? Xbox MCC using a proper DLC system like Steam does
i keep CE multiplayer installed just so i don't have to delete half the games on my Xbox to reinstall MCC

[analog salmon]

it does but for some reason they couldn't use it for MCC

Oh i misread

I'm assuming the problem is with how Xbox/MS Store handles DLC, and that's why 343 don't use it

like there's probably some limitation it has that Steam doesnt

[livid fable]

so, when i play training mode, knb aim assist is VERY EASY to detect. Extremely noticible. When I play live games, it's nonexistant. What's going on?

my ping, tested, over several games, is an average of 25

when i say over several games, i mean other games entirely, not tested over several matches of halo infinite

[devout kite]

Like Merty said if it says pvp then bootcamp doesn’t count

[livid fable]

oh, that. no, it says to win games, and it doesn't say in pvp, but bot boot camp wont' work.

[grave ether]

Might have to do with training being a local environment so it's more responsive than an online environment where there's more calculations going on. I've heard a few others mention the same thing but I have no actual answer

[livid fable]

what's really, really confusing me, is, i DO get CONTROLLER aim assist.

and just to throw more confusion in the mix- on the 150 ping game i just had, i had mnk aim assist

also, i only got 3 challenges left for the weekly- win 3 games- and, hahahahahhahahah, i've played like 20 and can't get a win

[wraith willow]

other games like Black Ops 3 don't have this limitation on Xbox though

[devout kite]

If that’s the case just swap the challenge

[livid fable]

i don't know how you miss a point that hard

there's this thing called matchmaking which is allegedly supposed to be putting you in groups that have some kind of weight toward the middle so a team has roughly 50/50 odds of winning.

20 tails in a row is bad.

[devout kite]

Swapping the challenge will save you time and frustration

[livid fable]

. . .

Dude, SCREW the challenge. I want to win a game.

[smoky wave]

If you can't win, swap them

[limpid pollen]

tbh halo infinite doesnt have good matchmaking, it has FAST matchmaking and thats seemingly all 343 wants out of it

although i havent touched ranked since last time i tried i was matching for 5 minutes, maybe there its skill based 🤔

[woeful wigeon]

no, it's just as bad in ranked. 343 made the decision years ago to ruin competitive to achieve slightly faster wait times and it has proven to be the worst decision they could've ever made for the franchise IMO. they have continually dug their heels into quicksand after waves and waves of criticism.

[river minnow]

! https://twitter.com/Halo/status/1670831317863333888?t=zcB-Zy2IuaC7hYgvze00LQ&s=19

Halo (@Halo)

Log into MCC this month to unlock the Juneteenth nameplate.

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 4:30 PM

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/Halo/status/1670831311357984776?t=I3Sl2r3MXGy-SvkIJkczrw&s=19

Halo (@Halo)

Commemorate a day of freedom and humanity. Juneteenth celebrates the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans on June 19, 1865 reminding us to unite to fight oppression for a better future. ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽

Log into Halo Infinite this month to unlock the Juneteenth nameplate & emblem.

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 4:30 PM

[coarse dagger]

The mantle design looks sooooooo good

[river minnow]

it's really clean

[signal ivy]

that looks sick

[upbeat sigil]

Boys I need some help, basically for some reason I have no clue why but my campaign has reset I was on legendary and was 3 mission away from completing, I’ve just looked at it for the first time in 3 months and it’s reset

Anyone know what I can do

[grave ether]

Looks like I can't be of help here

But try #1075989764026675210 or file a ticket here https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[pearl moth]

was it laso?

[upbeat sigil]

No mate

Just normal campaign

[pearl moth]

So you do not even have the marks that said completed on legendary?

[upbeat sigil]

I didn’t complete the whole thing but last time I was on it said continue

Now it just says new game

[jovial furnace]

Does the original version of Halo Combat Evolved (Xbox) work on the Xbox 360 via backwards compatibility? I have a 360 Slim with a 250gb HDD expansion

[pearl moth]

yeah, I played halo2 the same way

[eternal lion]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/customization-overview-season-4

[eternal lion]

Hoping to see a playlist calendar this mont and next ones

[tepid latch]

gave it a read, still looks like theres no definite word on whether free coatings will be cross core? i hope, and assume that once they're made to be just 1 icon encompassing all cores, then itll eork for free coatingsb🤔

[silent pollen]

Bro idk why but EU mcc is dead

[smoky wave]

Mcc is already small

So is not that surprising

[silent pollen]

i mean its still more fun than infinite is

[keen scaffold]

Youre lucky to find an infected game on anything but Reach

[keen scaffold]

Nah

[silent pollen]

least i can rank up in MCC

[keen scaffold]

You mean just like you can in infinite tomorrow? Wild.

[silent pollen]

infinite is so sweaty i cant play it more than an hour without getting sick of it

[silent pollen]

wym?

[smoky wave]

And do you think MCC doesn't?

[keen scaffold]

Oh no, people want to win the game
How sweaty

MCC, in my experience, is way sweatier

[silent pollen]

when i say sweaty i mean prize cup of their childhood crush marrying them sweaty

[keen scaffold]

I know right? Why cant they just casually walk up to me during a slayer match

Im friendly! They should know that by reading my mind

[smoky wave]

Skill issue anyways,

[silent pollen]

ok but if your gonna go Optic Gaming tier sweat why not play the ranked mode

[keen scaffold]

Casual matches are for custom games and/or forge screwing around

[smoky wave]

The ranked mode is more dead in MCC

[keen scaffold]

Nobody wants to play MCC ranked either because of how vicious its players are

And how much of an insane skill.gap it is

[silent pollen]

.

[smoky wave]

Doesn't help that the population on MCC is low that the matchmaking can't work that much, so basically you have to go more against people who are better
Idk how is the situation now on MCC since Infinite launched but it was already small and hard to search games unless you go more on H3 and Reach (sometimes H4) in some hours of the day

[silent pollen]

it gained 771 players recently on steam alone

usual numbers around 4.5k peak 9k

[smoky wave]

Do you realise that the game is crossplay

Unless you are searching without crossplay

[silent pollen]

im very well aware

[smoky wave]

Good, still empty in most playlists

[silent pollen]

Sad i was hoping for some good ole grifball

[keen scaffold]

Its honestly really fun i can find any match on infinite in under 15 seconds, but i struggle to get anything that isnt slayer on the other modes

Takes a solid minute to find a firefight match too

Its so great, and yet no one wants to play

Funny.

[silent pollen]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[keen scaffold]

Oh yeah, Reach firefight specifically. Good luck finding a decent ODST firefight round

Even though i honestly prefer ODST's version

[silent pollen]

i'd play with ya but i refuse to do mcc on 130+ ping

[keen scaffold]

Its fine.

Im just waiting for the day when PvE modes come to Infinite

[silent pollen]

i hear thats in the making

[keen scaffold]

Allegedly, Season 5 and 6 if all goes according to plan.

But you didnt hear that from me

[ancient sun]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/customization-overview-season-4
Halo Infinite Season 4: Infection - June 20 - October 17
Features: 100 Tier BP, Infection Game Mode, Career Rank, 5 Events, Forge updates, New Hazmat Core, New Weapon Models, New Maps, Arena: Forest | BTB: Scarr, New Equipment, Threat Seeker and Quantum Translocator
June
June 20 - Season 4 releases, Infection mode
June 27 - Hazmat event begins
July
June 27-July 11 - Hazmat event - 10 tier free pass
July 18 - August 1 - Tenrai II event - 10 tier free pass
August
August 8 - 22 - Cyber Showdown II event - 10 tier free pass
August 29 - Containment event begins
September
August 29 - September 12 - Containment event - 10 tier free pass
September 19 - October 3 - Tenrai III event - 10 tier free pass

[ancient sun]

I'll update with season end date once that's known

If I made any errors, please let me know and I'll edit

[eternal lion]

Tenrai III end octobre 3rd

June 27-July 11
July 18 - August 1

August 8th - 22nd

Its 1 week complete.

[ruby knoll]

So wait how long is the season

[tepid latch]

🤷 noone knows yet?

[smoky wave]

3 months and 2 weeks?

4 months?

[tepid latch]

is there an end date!?

[smoky wave]

Just looking at the events

[ancient sun]

I typically list the end date for events as the Monday (PST)

So then it goes Tues-Mon for NA (I know it carries over until the next morning)

But if people think it makes more sense to list until the Tuesday AM, I'll happily change it.

What do you think, EU folks?
@coarse dagger / @eternal lion

[eternal lion]

Its 7 days at any timezone

[sullen kiln]

Do not tag Admins or Moderators unless immediate action is needed. If you see anything that does not abide by these rules and guidelines, please tag a Moderator to bring it to their attention.

[ancient sun]

Ok

Stckr - do you think it would be more helpful to list the end dates as the Tuesday?

[eternal lion]

FOr Eu its 20:00 each time, should we not count the first day because its night time ?

I don't think so.
Its Thuesday-Thuesday

[ancient sun]

You've convinced me

[sullen anvil]

I am on my biggest losing streak rn. Played 25 games in total this weekend and got a few into today and I still have not won a single one

[ancient sun]

@eternal lion does it look accurate now?

(Also, tues-tues doesn't hold true for ANZ, but I digress)

[eternal lion]

I will be day=day w+1 anyway. Thats why its better to mark the same day beginning and ending

[keen scaffold]

So
Ive got some feedback based on that blogpost.

Im concerned that the end goal isnt to eventually make all coatings crosscore. Only paid ones are? Why is the ultimate reward, something i actually have to work for, unusable on other armors except the one its listed for? I get work is being done on the UI and so on, but the way its worded really puts me on edge.

[ancient sun]

sounds good.

Are the dates I have listed accurate from what you can see now?

[eternal lion]

Why is the ultimate reward, something i actually have to work for, usable on other armors except the one its listed for? -> because they can give you only 1 item with the ultimate reward.... and crosscore need X items

[magic night]

Yeah. it's a limitation of the current system that they said they are looking to change in the future, so when that gets sorted out, it should allow for crosscore for weekly rewards and for a single battlepass reward to provide a crosscore item.

[ancient sun]

" But, as we look ahead beyond this season, we are aiming for more improvements to better represent cosmetic content in Halo Infinite’s UI and potential further ways to add more value and flexibility in the ways you customize your Spartan."

Sounds to me like they do plan to expand the cross-core eventually.
It's entirely likely that they had basically already built the S4 ultimate rewards well in advance, and didn't really have time to make them all cross-core.

[keen scaffold]

Whenever I need to think of a face that designed this system and its UI, i think of joss whedons really smug and insufferable mug.

God this system is so inefficient.

I really hope they figure it out

[eternal lion]

Pre-prod was not great yes....

[keen scaffold]

Yeah im aware of the horror stories.

[magic night]

The current system seems a lot like they saw Apex's reward system and felt like it would work for Infinite.

[keen scaffold]

I mean given how one iteration of it was a hero shooter. That tracks.

[clever inlet]

time for good ole earnable credits

[magic night]

I mean more in the sense of like in Apex where if you get one skin, you only get it for that character or weapon, even if another character or weapon has the same skin.

[eternal lion]

The live designor director is gone so... that's great at least

[clever inlet]

what did he doo

[keen scaffold]

Who were they again? Chris Lee and like one other guy

[eternal lion]

Ryan Paradis

got back to Bungie

[keen scaffold]

Wonder if they'll ever show their face in public again

[clever inlet]

what happened

[ancient sun]

that's kinda harsh

[clever inlet]

sorry i m unaware

[ruby knoll]

Oh God this nonsense

Nobody actually knows how much time was put into what was likely a proof of concept that was scrapped

[eternal lion]

Chris Lee was head of Halo Shooter team, whatever that mean

[keen scaffold]

Im a harsh person. Im not sorry about being indignant. I just think its ridiculous that a huge fumbled mess like this-- like listen, i love HINF, but these poor devs got saddled with a nigh unfixable mess because of sycophants and yesmen.

[ruby knoll]

Nobody actually knows the full story behind the development

[eternal lion]

Facts

[ruby knoll]

It's basically all speculation

[keen scaffold]

We know just enough to draw a decently reasonable picture

[ruby knoll]

Nah not really!

[keen scaffold]

Will we ever know for sure? Prob not.

[clever inlet]

I m good at that

[magic night]

From all the wildly different pictures I see people drawing, I don't really think so. If the pictures all looked alike, then maybe I'd agree.

[eternal lion]

We just know the game, the creative directors leaving as the developement progresses (not great) and the quitting after the release or just before it.
And the one after the purg of January

[keen scaffold]

All we know is that a lot of specific people left. Based on cursory observation, it aint hard to see the writing on the wall.

[ruby knoll]

Nah i think it is pretty hard

People leave for various reasons

[keen scaffold]

Okay, not easy, but i wouldn't say its Dante Must Die levels either.

[smoky wave]

This is truly the death of Halo............................

[keen scaffold]

At the very least, we can acknowledge its being worked on. Im just overall concerned on the direction.

[grave ether]

Drawing pictures? I'm pretty good at that. Have requests?

[keen scaffold]

Halo is dead for the 46th time. Press F to pay respects.

[ancient sun]

An infinite inspired spartan - flood infected - controlled by iratus

[grave ether]

Nah I'll pass on that one for now

[ancient sun]

fair, figured it sounded niche

[eternal lion]

John finnally getting killed ?

[keen scaffold]

Ultimately, all I want is some kind of Firefight and more robust crosscore offerings. I aint even fully expecting everything to be useable on everything

Some pieces are just too wild to actually fit on other cores

[grave ether]

I'll just go back to the Spork Spartan om working. The Sporktan if you will