halo-discussion

[zealous panther]

i like bandit. even played Reach to test my feelings. Bandit feels like a good type of DMR

[grave ether]

So what's the difference between this chat and general chat now?

[zealous panther]

this chat are for the gamers

[chilly solstice]

I can't speak for lower ranks. Diamond and higher you will get chewed out for a screw up which I imagine you are wanting comms for the banter. With that, do not get baited into walking into a comms ban, best of luck.

[novel pike]

Why does a hyper-lethal vector working for the shadow-government on clandestine operations need a warning label for their codpiece?

[crystal iron]

ngl sometimes its hard to adjust to not using cussing at all. but i try anyway

[astral crag]

The military often treats soldiers like children

[pliant palm]

preaching to the choir, i catch myself a lot, Filler 🙂

[chilly solstice]

ya just use blam! instead haha

[crystal iron]

especially when you around children, its essential to practice it

don’t want them mocking you

[astral crag]

Soldiers will find a way to break even the most unbreakable things

[south turret]

toxic as always

[astral crag]

Also no one is above reading a warning label. Safety is everyone’s priority uwu

[novel pike]

I guess they forgot to add the "Do Not Scratch" stickers to the visors.

[astral crag]

Only a hyper lethal vector like noble 6 can get forklift certified

He probably had to read many warning labels for that

[crystal iron]

oh man i can’t wait for the forklifts!

[chilly solstice]

Alright you delinquents I am going to bed it is 530 am. I finished my tasks and off to get my sleep on

[crystal iron]

can’t wait to lift up randos on custom games up and down

[novel pike]

Kek.

Reminds me of my recently decided lore for my Infinite spartan after the latest cutscene; They're a kleptomaniac.

[south turret]

is gamemode infection a thing where people talk?👀

[novel pike]

Has drilled every specialization certification so they can requisition any armor piece they feel like equipping that given day.

[astral crag]

Hah, nice

I’m pretty settled on Anubis as my canon Spartan now tbh. Unless they bring back noble 6’s brim

Still can’t recreate my reach colors though

[novel pike]

I accidentally reduxed my Reach loadout when I changed my Vb out of an SPI look.

Booted up my 360 after forever and had almost the same setup.

[astral crag]

Nice ^^

[novel pike]

I'd entirely forgotten about how I'd ended up looking there.

[astral crag]

I remade mine in MCC to look at those graphics

Engine still looks good. I’ve always been really fond of halo’s original engine, and it’s offshoots. It’s interesting to look where bungie took it with the Tiger engine for Destiny, compared to slipspace

Slipspace looks better atm. Shame it’s so hard to work with. Bungie experienced a ton of engine difficulty back in Destiny 1, and took a long time to resolve it

[sharp summit]

Is bandit 4 body Shots and one headshot?

[devout kite]

Anyone else feel like the customization menu is a little delayed

[astral crag]

Yeah

[sharp summit]

Fps drops yeah

I love the new default coatings

Especially the olive and sand grass ones

[astral crag]

It’s lookin pretty nice so far

I hope they sell that white coating separately from the big bundle

Cause I don’t want anything else in it lol

[crystal iron]

I'd love that coating crosscore as a seperate item as well tbh

[astral crag]

Is it the first clean white coating so far?

[zinc glen]

they could let you choose any colour you want

[crystal iron]

The closest is the white and cyan one but its the first real clean one I think

[grave ether]

Yep, first real white coating

[devout kite]

Well I open a ticket with support

[crystal iron]

It looks really good. When I get home I'm going to apply it to my MK7 spartan in blender 🙃

[grave ether]

Shame it doesn't work like that in game

[crystal iron]

Yeah but if you want I can send an image of it to you once I've done it and you'll understand why

[grave ether]

I've got a few in blender I've been tweaking myself. But it does make me just wish I could have the Spartan I made in game

[crystal iron]

True. Did you notice they changed the body shapes in s3? its noticable on Body 1 and 2.

It looks like it at least or I am delusional

[grave ether]

I haven't gotten to look at this season in-game yet. Will later today though. Just reading all the posts, it feels overwhelming

[crystal iron]

Totally understand that

[devout kite]

I don’t like how the emblem is in the center of the new SPI armor

[severe valve]

Oh really? I thought it was cool

[devout kite]

If you were a chest piece it’ll cover it up

[outer sand]

A secret emblem

[crystal iron]

Is there any coating close to agent Washington's from the freelancer project.

It would be cool to see a project freelancer bundle

[crystal iron]

Yes it has been very buggy and laggy.

So so far my impression of S3 is fairly good, not overly impressed but happy it's going in a positive direction,

Season 4 is most likely going to be the season 4 of that's when we are likely get full cross core and PVE stuff.

But who knows what we will get within the next couple of weeks. Maybe a surprise Cross core helmet feature or attachments.

Right now S3 does feel like Filled until S4. But good filler like a funny DBZ episode filler.
But I'm totally loving my Chimera Core... It's as close to a Spartan Lock hunter Armor I can get too

[devout kite]

I already summit a ticket with support

[crystal iron]

yesterday i was playing Halo Infinite, i love the s3, but i have one question, mangler seems really weak, i remember that you could shot once and melee and kill someone

[crystal iron]

Oh they changed that a while back, granted I haven't played in months an still haven't picked it up yet

[zealous panther]

they changed it a long time ago... and i don't see any point in using this gun now

[crystal iron]

true, it's useless

[zealous panther]

i mean it was op... but now i just don't see the place for it

[crystal iron]

If they ever bring back assassinations I want one to be a knife followed by a Sparta kick they should be fast and extremely lethal looking

[zinc glen]

like the one in halo 4?

[crystal iron]

do you think that they need to rework some covenants weapon? Seems like UNSC are really usefull and stronger, dunno, maybe im wrong. But i felt that yesterday.

[zinc glen]

it doesn't make sense lore wise

Covenant weapons are stronger right?

[crystal iron]

only the stalker rifle in my opinion and shock rifle

change my mind 😛

I really wish the brought back the saw

[zinc glen]

same

I want the old shotgun design

this one is alright

but it pales in comparison to the old one

[brisk ibex]

are there competitive bans when you leave after a teammate leaves a competitive match?

[tame lance]

All of them are pretty good except the ravager in my opinion

[crystal iron]

Not sure, I know if you crash out several times you still get a cool down ban

[novel pike]

Been that way since Reach, more or less.

Covenant have been getting the short end after 3.

[novel pike]

Ghost Grey on the MK VII, sort of. First one that comes to mind.

[little trench]

erm the halo 4 storm rifle is good though

[modern juniper]

The ravager has been good since the season 2 rebalancing - it’s a proper uncharged two-shot kill if you hit your shots. Back to how it was in the flights, people still sleep on this thing though

[novel pike]

Addendum; there have been good weapons and vehicles, just not nearly as much variety or attention as the human side of things.

The new weapons and vehicles for the Covenant in reach mostly replaced the missing brute and forerunner options, and then 4 onward has been slacking on all of it. And the missing elites in multiplayer.

At least up until Infinite gave the Brutes a whole new arsenal.

[zinc glen]

I wish they brought back the old brute weapons like the brute shot and spiker

[novel pike]

What was the shotgun pistol?

[zinc glen]

mauler

[novel pike]

The firebomb grenade as well.

[zinc glen]

is the brute plasma rifle in infinite?

[novel pike]

It'd be amazing if every weapon and vehicle in the series were available in Forge for infinite.

[zinc glen]

it would be

[brisk ibex]

aite thankss

[crystal iron]

your opinion about pulse carabine?

[novel pike]

I feel like it's good, but the ways that it's different from all the similar weapons to it makes it clunky to use.

[shadow turret]

For some reason seems better in the weapon drills then in game

[novel pike]

Like part of me expects it to be the plasma repeater or storm rifle, when it's not but I still try to use it that way.

[civic sluice]

Anyone know how to view the season's cutscenes? I keep seeing stills from a cutscene with the Green armoured Rakshasa but I haven't seen it.

[novel pike]

Should be in the battle pass or event menus.

[civic sluice]

Thank you.

[crystal iron]

s3 cinematic is awesome, but i dont understand why that spartan is there, it's after the infinity debacle?

Anyone have the start date for the next event focused on the chimera core

[zinc glen]

what is the story so far

I remember it involving an AI

[crystal iron]

For me it was an improvement but I'm still waiting to see how the Nerratove event is sapposed to build up around our Spartan. It seemed like it was starting off that way, than it just kinda veered off onto these other characters whom I don't feel any connection too

[brittle briar]

they added a cadet olive color to all cores

[civic sluice]

Sorry I meant the actual character from the last season with their helmet off. Turns out theres a sub menu in the opening cinematic tab with an additional cutscene.

[novel pike]

A headhunter pair raided a banished outpost and stole a banished AI that was taken from a human research project.

[brittle briar]

Ahh my b

[novel pike]

It was attacking the ship they were on, so Dihn isolated it to his suit by sticking it in his helmet.

[crystal iron]

Is there a way to see the cutscenes from previous seasons in game I want too see my Chimera core in that darker scene

[civic sluice]

And the A.I's harassing him with his trauma from when he was a SPI.

[zinc glen]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-omg-oh-my-god-who-the-hell-cares-gif-4959616

[civic sluice]

Which I like the little core tie in

Nice touch.

[zinc glen]

my reaction to the story

[novel pike]

I'd buy a DLC of this.

[civic sluice]

I mean, you asked.

[zinc glen]

then I heard it

and that's my reaction

[novel pike]

Anyone here play that CoD with the mission/interrogation in Nam?

[civic sluice]

I'm not exactly sure what you expected out of a total of like 4 cutscenes but fair enough.

[zinc glen]

the one where Krevchenko "dies"?

[novel pike]

Where the guy is trying to push the story forward by setting up new scenarios.

[zinc glen]

in cold war?

because yes I played cold war and it was brilliant

[novel pike]

That sounds like the right game.

[civic sluice]

I remember the Hazmat mission on veteran.

Or was that the older cod.

[zinc glen]

Steiner

all must die

[civic sluice]

Aah my b.

[novel pike]

Anyways, Iratus doing that to Dihn seems like it'd be a good story.

Sending him through a trippy hellscape to relive the ambush.

[zinc glen]

we're on a halo ring and the best story they come up with is "banished AI infects Spartan"

[novel pike]

That's not on the ring.

This is in the academy.

And anything is better than "Then, the Cortana nation attacked."

[zinc glen]

I meant the characters (like chief and the others) are on the ring and they end with the atriox showing up and this is the direction they go in

[novel pike]

Because the multiplayer isn't in that setting.

[swift hedge]

That was like set up for possible DLC no?

[zinc glen]

why does multiplayer have to be canon?

[crystal iron]

stats in game like total kills ecc where i could find it?

[zinc glen]

I'll concede it probably was

[novel pike]

Since 4, multiplayer has been themed as spartan training sessions. Infinite has set that up to be a new spartan class surviving on their own after chief and the others go silent.

[crystal iron]

halo infinite still not working on my steam deck

[supple socket]

Melee in infinite is broken

[novel pike]

No more than in every other Halo game.

[hot night]

Sad to report that Halo Infinite stoped working on Steam Deck.

[outer spruce]

How is everyone halo game going

[hot night]

new levels are fine, new items are great, new bugs are a drag.

[outer spruce]

That good to here make sure to keep on gaming

[crystal iron]

I'm still waiting for it to be about our MP Spartan... Seems the story is really pulling away from our MP Spartan, hell half the Nerrative is just being in Basic Training and not really doing much of anything

[outer spruce]

My family 🥹

[crystal iron]

Totally off topic but Good News, we finally got a Release date for Starfeild, Bad news it's not until September. Hopefully Halo's Content can Suffice me until than.

[analog salmon]

petition to remove rat stickers 😈

[crystal iron]

Still

[ancient sun]

Welcome to the home of all things Halo!

From Halo: Combat Evolved to Halo: The Master Chief Collection and everything in between, you can chat about here.

Uhhh, so what about Halo 5?

[ancient sun]

I am strongly opposed to the new format.
Forums threads are much less discoverable.

With Waypoint being gone, no official support for Halo 5, and now this server structure change, I truly think anything not MCC or Infinite is being snuffed out.

[analog salmon]

what about halo infinite 😱

oh nevermind there's a seperate forum mbad

[young glen]

Tag system and threads make discovery much better surely.

[analog salmon]

honestly i think the forum-chat hybrid is fine, its just a matter of whether enough people are open to change and will embrace it

[zealous panther]

Forums threads are unusable. I just didn't even bother to try at this point

[analog salmon]

think of how many times a conversation will get buried and you never see it in a channel like this

[pliant palm]

forums are far more useful from a feedback perspective

[pliant palm]

yes. this has been a massive issue.

[young glen]

Exactly. I've always preferred threads for the most part. Makes searching for something easier.

[pliant palm]

cannot track/properly account for feedback across a general long running discussion area.

[zealous panther]

well, the discussion area is not exactly the feedback place

[pliant palm]

only because y'all aren't using it as such currently

but the goal is for the #1039633978841374720 and #1076337363770417172 to be leveraged as such.

[supple socket]

No it’s worse. I literally had a entire match of it just not registering

[sonic lake]

so... Where would I go if say I cannot do anything post season 3 of halo infinite

[coarse dagger]

What do you mean?

[analog salmon]

#1075989764026675210 if your game is not working

[sonic lake]

I cant access my armory, buy the battle pass, load the store, or buy/view the battlepass or progress the event

I'll check there

[pliant palm]

i'm seeing chatter on that...can you hit up Halo Support please?

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[sonic lake]

will do

[crystal iron]

Good Morning, did you get some rest?

Also Did you perhaps email the customization team my request for Spartan Locks Helmet for the Chimera core lol.. I mean it is a stellar idea wouldn't you say lol

[pliant palm]

[dim portal]

I’m getting a lot of lag on PC, also when i updated there was an option to send diagnostic reports automatically or something like that? I opted out (bc it said I could change it) but I can’t find the option to turn it on?

[pliant palm]

windows settings

privacy

enable!

please enable that!

settings > privacy > diagnostics & feedback

[dim portal]

Would this be “optional diagnostic data”?

[crystal iron]

I really wish there was a TeaBag metal.... I have been going to town on other players lol

[pliant palm]

yes! that's it!

[dim portal]

Thank you

[ancient sun]

Sam, I don't think this new format allows for very good discovery of discussion for other Halo titles.

Not a fan 🙁

I would've liked forums to supplement channels, not supplant them.

[crystal iron]

its because the channels take up too much space and even though you can't see it, there's a lot more then you'd realize that the moderation team has to deal with all the time. It's simply to make everything not as overwhelming

[ancient sun]

Especially given that Waypoint is being dropped, now we're losing hard dedicated channels for things here.

[analog salmon]

you can filter by tag

[sonic lake]

Just submitted. Hopefully 343 can get a hot fix out or something. I really want to play season 3

[ancient sun]

For the casual fan, the quick look discovery is completely gone for anything not Infinite

[young glen]

As a user I think having too many channels would fragment the conversation too much.

[pliant palm]

i understand the changes aren't going to be liked by all...and they're by no means set in stone, however they aren't arbitrary changes and they're being made in response to feedback i've gotten from other users and the mods.

while they may take some adjustment, the #1076337363770417172 forum has tags for our titles and allow for us to capture feedback way, way easier than having to skim a thread with 9000 posts.

[ancient sun]

I think the exact opposite.
We're now in a space where anyone can make a new forum thread that duplicates another one, rather than having one specific channel for it.

[pliant palm]

so while i understand and appreciate that change is scary, i would like the changes to be approached with an open mind and a fair attempt at using the forum section and the tools provided when contributing 🙂

[ancient sun]

If people start using the tools in a way where you're able to gather feedback more efficiently, I worry you might end up hearing from even less people, a smaller sample set.

[pliant palm]

with all due respect, this happened on waypoint CONSTANTLY. i can go find many, many duplicate threads saying the same thing.

the same thing happens on reddit. or twitter.

this is not an issue isolated to discord or anywhere else.

[ancient sun]

Veteran users and members won't have much trouble.
We'll be fine.
I worry more about the casual user.

[young glen]

I mean having both threads and flowing discussion channels like this one for each game would fragment the conversation too much, and would also just be overwhelming. It's one or the other.

Also, as I'm sure you're aware, posting duplicate threads isn't good forum etiquette. Typically they get locked in forums but we'll see how the moderators approach that aspect here.

[crystal iron]

I understand that most stuff is moving towards the forum style channels now, but I'm just wondering one thing. If let's say there is a general discussion, a very broad and loose one, but about something that could be a tag in one of the forum channels, will people be moved to forums by mods? Example:
Someone is talking about forge and have general questions, but its not enough to be the focus of a Forum thread.
I'm just wondering because I can see a lot of people getting annoyed with getting moved over to forums if there's topics that don't have enough ground to be a thread.

[ancient sun]

My point exactly!! 🙂
I worry we're bringing the repetitive nature of Waypoint to here.

[pliant palm]

???

it happens here anyway

without the forums, then i have to literally spend hours scrolling 100000 posts in one singular thread to find anything

[crystal iron]

Yeah what sam said. It was happening here, the only difference is that it was all condensed into a few popular channels and it is unnecessary and exhausting for most

[pliant palm]

but i've laid out some of the reasons, at this point, i hear your feedback and can understand your perspective however we will not be making adjustments right now.

[analog salmon]

yeah in a chat channel the same conversation will happen multiple times. its like deja vu sometimes

[pliant palm]

so let's enjoy halo chat pls

[ancient sun]

I always do.

[radiant sundial]

hi

[shadow turret]

Hoi Primus

[radiant sundial]

hi river

[ancient sun]

My thought is that we'll see less total people engaging in the forum topics, and most conversations simply happening in the channels.
I guess we'll see how it works.

[crystal iron]

It is very easy to just redirect people to the forum topics though with one simple link

"IS SEASON 4 OUT???" Links to post that has all info needed about S4

For example :)

[ancient sun]

the halo forum has tags for our titles and allow for us to capture feedback way, way easier than having to skim a thread with 9000 posts.

Ultimately, I hope that this comes to fruition.
Because I know you're always looking for the ability to hear form fans, and I can appreciate that the Discord server needs to fill the void that Waypoint used to provide.

[crystal iron]

plus on discord its a lot easier to earch for stuff :)

[serene furnace]

Why can't I see the other dedicated channels for Halo games?

[crystal iron]

They are being replaced by forum channels using tags

[dim portal]

I’m totally okay with the forum channels, easy to scroll, and discuss topics within the given forum, if I don’t see a topic i’ll either create one or come here and ask, or search twitter or google. There were many times I would enter a chat at a non populated time and would receive no feedback or answer.

[devout kite]

They got replaced by forum channels with tags

[serene furnace]

Gonna take some time to get used to

[ancient sun]

Thank you

[serene furnace]

Halo 4 🐐

[ancient sun]

Creating a forum topic wont necessarily increase speed of answers

[serene furnace]

They added a door that wasn't there before in the Live fire map? And I don't mean the door that was updated to now show the ONI logo, I mean a door by the side stairs

[radiant sundial]

yep, you mean the one with the jail cell looking bars? yeah thats new

[serene furnace]

I knew something looked different

[analog salmon]

if i had to guess, these doors are gonna open

[radiant sundial]

i belive there was also another new door added but i havent gone through everything yet, im rather excited to find the new pathways through the maps

[devout kite]

Is the bandit in the weapon drill mode or no

[young glen]

It is

[devout kite]

Thanks

[radiant sundial]

i would guess yes but if not you can just run some bot matches for even more dynamic training, (yes i noticed it was answered i just felt like finishing the post)

[serene furnace]

It's really cool that they added Forge for all maps and on top of that monitor mode lets you noclip through the walls, you can explore everything now

[analog salmon]

the idea of taking arena maps and opening up doors to new areas for new modes is pretty smart if they do that

[radiant sundial]

yep

[gloomy ice]

hey guys does halo not open for anyone else on steam?

[analog salmon]

other people have had problems yeah

[gloomy ice]

dang it only started after this update

[crystal iron]

welp, rip mcc discussion, now 90% of the chat will be sbmm bad and my game don't work

[young glen]

#1075989764026675210 for help. Read the pinned thread first.

[serene furnace]

Just in time

I'm literally 1 achievement away from 100% MCC completion

[radiant sundial]

dang

[gloomy ice]

oh sorry about that, but to be fair I actually don’t mind the sbmm 😂

[serene furnace]

It's the achievement for beating Halo 2 LASO... what am I gonna do

[radiant sundial]

oh btw how does the laso master achivements work, do i do all the laso playlists or only certain ones

[wanton obsidian]

suffer

[radiant sundial]

ill join up

[serene furnace]

LASO master unlocks after beating the 4 main games MCC originally launched with

[radiant sundial]

ah

[radiant sundial]

thank you

[serene furnace]

I'm on Gravemind btw

[radiant sundial]

welp

time to ditch finishing the last level of h2 and go into laso playlist

[serene furnace]

I got help for 3 and ODST LASO, but CE, Reach and 4 are relatively manageable on your own, I did them alone and they were more time consuming than they were extremely hard

[radiant sundial]

k

im just worried about the library

i died way too many times in that level

[serene furnace]

Library is easy, it's Truth and Reconciliation and Two Betrayals you gotta worry about

Imma give you a life saver tip tho

[radiant sundial]

hm?

[serene furnace]

Halo CE has a very easy glitch that lets you have infinite ammo

[radiant sundial]

oh?

well

i will now dive into teh depths of the internet to find this for when i play ce's laso

[rocky summit]

Is the new update fun

Should I play it

[serene furnace]

Yes

It's a russian roulette tho, it works perfectly fine for some people, and it keeps crashing for others

[rocky summit]

Classic Halo Infinite

[tight apex]

The new gun whips, and the Smokescreen equipment makes for some really fun sneaky plays

And the new map Chasm gives me big Boarding Action vibes

[radiant sundial]

the shroud screen is very useful for bamboozling the hell out of your opponents too lol, i hit a friend with it in custom games and they were confused af

i just think it should last for a slight bit longer

[crystal iron]

Yea I had several crashes yesterday, granted I expect it to have crashing issues so soon after An Update... The problem though was I had a cool down ban for Crashing out of to many games

[novel pike]

It was fun in some of the escalation slayer games I played earlier.

[crystal iron]

I like to actually hit enemies with it.. like I know I can't see them. But neither can they and I can try to get in closer to where they are.

[novel pike]

I feel like it's a balanced equipment with all the explosive/area based weapons that Infinite has.

[novel pike]

If they get stressed by it, you can also use it to push them out of their cover.

[crystal iron]

We should it for King of the Hill. Since the Hill is so. If we can kinda keep the enemies Guessing where we are in that hill

[novel pike]

That could be fun, maybe as a variant type.

"Blinded by Power" or something.

[white birch]

I pulled off a sick move with the Shroud Screen yesterday.
I was in camo, had picked up the shroud from a teammates body, and was moving to the enemy flag on Cliffhanger. 1 flag CTF. We'd gotten a pull and moved it about halfway to the Pipes area, but it was down.

I saw the enemy team coming for it, so I lobbed the shroud screen out to their position to blind them, then ran forward, somehow picked up a Grappleshot (dont know where that spawns, think it might be the lower side of the "north" end of the pipes section) then used that to grapple the flag and run it back all while still in camo.

[novel pike]

Poor man's hologram. Two or three players under camo shooting shroud screens up an alternate path.

[crystal iron]

Why do I sense that the eny team was both Confused and Pissed lol

[white birch]

They were NOT having a great game thats for sure. So probably

[novel pike]

I've been having great fun on Chasm.

[crystal iron]

I kinda want to make a forge map that's like those weird staircase places where portals lead to different stair cases. Wonder if I can make.the map Invert gravity of players too...

But I may start to think of a forge map to create my own PVE mode since Campaign AI will eventually come to forge .. I could just create my own thing. Even put AI Spartans on there to make a.higebteam.for myself

[white birch]

You just described the CE map Chiron TL-34

[crystal iron]

I might try to recreate a battle zone like the one from the Halo 3 Teaser trailer... With a bunker of sorts that you have to defend from an onslaught of Banished troops

[crystal iron]

It must be made...

[tight apex]

I'm intrigued by the inclusion of the Yanme'e drones in the opening cinematic for Season 3. Those bug dudes were not in the campaign, so I feel like modeling them and including them in the cinematic could be a teaser at some potential future content like Firefight to include them as enemies

[crystal iron]

Yea It shouldn't be a far stretch either, they already have the Skirmishers or whatever those flying Monkey things are called. Really they someone behave in the same way fo a Model change with the same movements doesn't seem like a stretch

[ancient sun]

@crystal iron - what happened to your #mcc forum thread?

[crystal iron]

it got closed

[crystal iron]

Alot of things I see are being closed up. I essentially had to create a Discord because Waypoint forums is going down. Never seen the need for this when I had that. But Times change I guess.

Well lunch break is over

[crystal iron]

Yea but before the older games had their own channels, now there's just 1 real channel to talk about halo which will just become the new halo-infinite channel, so for people who don't like infinite or want to see discussions of it are screwed I guess 🤷‍♂️

[ancient sun]

well, if anyone wants to talk Halo 5 - head on here:
https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1083073036082749531

#1083073036082749531

[analog salmon]

so it seems like dailies are mostly gonna be items out of bundles which is no bad thing

well i say that after 1 daily is from a bundle but my guess anyway

[ancient sun]

if that's the case, how will they solve the issue of bundles being unavailable to buy if you own an item from it?

[analog salmon]

im not really sure why we had no dailies for so long when there's so many dailies they could have repeated

[analog salmon]

why cant you buy them

[ancient sun]

that was the issue with the Adrenal bundle.

people who owned one or more item from the giveaways, couldn't buy the bundle

[analog salmon]

you know that's actually pretty borked. you could buy an item from a bundle not knowing its from a bundle and then they later re-list the bundle which you also want the items from

they should only really list items from bundles at the same time the bundle is available

[ancient sun]

exactly- I hope that is resolvable

[next shard]

im sure it will grow on me, but right now I really dislike the new btb map

[analog salmon]

honestly the shop team are just incompetent at this point. Im sorry but it just hurts how mismanaged the shop has been

like its not even hard to figure out how listing items or sub bundles at different times is gonna cause problems

[ancient sun]

nah, not incompetent.
This Season's shop is already a big improvement.

[analog salmon]

i mean you're talking about an improvement over frankly something terrible

i agree giving more ways to acquire items is a lot better, but it just makes no sense to me why you wouldn't list items from bundles when the bundles are also available, so your customers can actually make a choice and not be tricked into buying an item that will later be made available in a bundle, or the other way around

and the prices now are just not terrible. like you've been gaslit if you think the pricey are now great value

they are fine, i dont feel like its a total scam to buy a cosmetic sure, but it's not great value. not that im expecting great value from microsoft but they could at least sell bundles and items in a way that lets the player make a choice between them

[ancient sun]

when you compare prices to other games with similar offering, these are fine and mostly always have been.

When you compare them to what halo fans are accustomed to in all previous titles, well that's where the disconnect is.

[analog salmon]

idk man i think the whole industry is becoming gross following in the steps of mobile games

halo wasn't a F2P game before so yeah, you can't just go F2P and act like every F2P game

[ancient sun]

yeah, I can appreciate that

[ancient sun]

and yet, here we are

[analog salmon]

but i mean again im not asking for great value prices, i know that's never going to happen. I just think they should be far more customer focused in how they go about selling items. i dont even think it earns them much by trying to double dip on customers who might buy an item then buy the same item in a bundle later. it just annoys people for the most part

that's why i say the team is incompetent. because i dont even think half the annoying stuff they do makes microsoft a penny

[ancient sun]

I'm not even overly concerned about any potential double dipping.

I just want the items to be purchaseable at all

[analog salmon]

i mean exactly, i've spent basically nothing because they wont let me buy stuff in a reasonable way. there's cosmetics im willing to drop the excessive $5 on but they wont even let me

[ancient sun]

that's not what I meant - i meant the issue where a bundle becomes unavailable if any item is owned.
If they solve that, I'll be happier.

[mental trench]

Minus the fact they’re selling for 400 credits a piece

I wouldn’t call their pricing incompetency, they’re just testing to see how much people are really willing to spend on one coating alone

[analog salmon]

honestly i'd pay 3-5$ for the reach combat knife easy, i'd use it all the time and if it got cross core as they claimed i would use it on all my canon cores

i only brought up the pricing because i cant stand people saying its great value

pure gaslighting to call the pricing great value if you ask me

its fine at best

[smoky wave]

1 credit

[tulip vortex]

Good job 343, not only are you back to price gouging cosmetics. Your “update” has completely broken my game; I can’t customize my Spartan anymore and doing anything causes crashes. Amazing job 343

Thanks also for 2 poorly made maps with rampant spawn camping issues

[analog salmon]

they did improve behemoth though 😄

[tulip vortex]

No they didn’t.

[analog salmon]

i havent played it yet

[tulip vortex]

It’s still the same map

[analog salmon]

it looks better, hard to tell from screenshots because people cant put the camera in the same place

im not overly worried about the issues because they will be fixed in patches

[smoky wave]

They did changed some stuff for Behemoth

[analog salmon]

ideally updates would be polished but its not the end of the world if the game is a bit rough for a few weeks

[smoky wave]

But over all it's like the same problem

[analog salmon]

i think the spawning is the problem

i wish they would just go back through all the maps and address spawning

chasm has spawns that put you in enemy line of sight immediately which is really silly

[smoky wave]

Spawning, the layout etc

[tulip vortex]

Weak excuse, I expect working content not a buggy mess

[mental trench]

I think the biggest issues rn are desync and hit registration issues

[tulip vortex]

I love how my rockets just disappear

[crystal iron]

I see season 3 wasn't the one to make the game whole and complete, maybe next time, or season 6

[smoky wave]

For me rn it is performance but not super big, it shows the fps exploding in customization menus

[tulip vortex]

Just wait until season 6 guys 🤡

[leaden shard]

can confirm this. Chugs for a few seconds after selecting a core.

[analog salmon]

im not excusing it im just saying in the long run its not going to have a huge impact on the game. yes the update does feel like a step back in stability but there's QOL improvements and the stability issues will be rectified fairly quickly

[crystal iron]

7 to be safe

[tulip vortex]

This game is lucky if it makes it this year

[smoky wave]

I already sent a ticket and I'll wait for it, not something that stopping me playing but it is kinda worse than in the Winter update for my performance

[leaden shard]

.......Does anyone miss halo?

[crystal iron]

halo is sleeping, let him rest

[zenith laurel]

I can see the honeymoon phase is over today

[analog salmon]

i dont get people acting like the WU or S3 or whatever is some huge pivotal point and trashing on everyone still unhappy, but at the same time I think they are both decent steps forward and the hiccups will be fixed well before S4

[tulip vortex]

I never had one, I see stuff for what it is. S3 Is just more garbage

[analog salmon]

like i can 100% understand feeling let down by the arena maps. the game needs content badly and im definitely a bit let down

hopefully plaza plays well and isnt far off

[tulip vortex]

6 years of development 🗿

[smoky wave]

Can't wait for that

About the new maps the only one I dislike is Chasm, the rest are fine

[leaden shard]

It's been over for me for years. I didn't grow up with Xbox, but I did grow up with CE for pc and played firefight and campaigns on the big four from bungie once I got my 360 in like....2010. I said this before, I won't deny the effort 343 has done here, but.....they really need to seal the cracks in their foundation.

[analog salmon]

i think if plaza is solid and the stability issues are fixed promptly, season 3 will be overall a pretty solid step forward. Oasis is a great BTB map.

i dont think there is a ton of reason to jump back into the game today if you've been holding out though, definitely wait a bit

[tulip vortex]

Just got warned for “nonconstructive comments”, glad to see some things never change

[leaden shard]

it's not just stability issues that need fixing. it's just....exhausting to see the Halo franchise in this state, you know?

[smoky wave]

For sure, aside of the typical issues that always have a big update Season 3 really started strong with the amount of the stuff
And good news it is not another 6 months

[tulip vortex]

I’m not even gonna go down this hole

[leaden shard]

again, there is a good game in there somewhere. But its buried underneath so much Slipspace spaghetti that it'll take years to untangle.

[coarse dagger]

Smart move

[leaden shard]

.......all due respect, but those words made me raise an eyebrow.

[tulip vortex]

You threatening me?

[mental trench]

Lets calm down lmao

[coarse dagger]

Turn off the ping when replying, please

And chill

[crystal iron]

see look how violent the channel re organization made everyone

[coarse dagger]

If you want to discuss this further, feel free to hit up modmail

[sullen kiln]

For server moderation concerns, please message @upbeat plover.

[mental trench]

I think people can give criticism but it has to be valid

[leaden shard]

Lets....lets not go down this rabbit hole. I didn't come here to have the community try to stab each other with Sanghelli blades.

[analog salmon]

best thing they can do rn is remove the rat sticker when everyone is distracted

[frigid grail]

"lmao" is censored on in-game chat 😂

[leaden shard]

my point stands. If infinite is to survive, they need to sort out their technical debt. I know it'll be h3ll but it must be done. The entire game is suffering for it.

[tulip vortex]

I’m pretty sure the game not working at all for me is a valid criticism

[sullen kiln]

For community based support, please refer to #1075989764026675210. Remember this is community sourced and operated, for official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[frigid grail]

that is a pretty valid criticism

[devout kite]

How do I show a picture in the show and tell thread

[sullen kiln]

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[leaden shard]

.....I may get flak for this, but you doing alright, Stckr?

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/ske7ch/status/1633550550913658881?t=xWw0nUF6OoambCjpdEYGbQ&s=19

Brian Jarrard (@ske7ch)

PSA: The team is tracking various #HaloInfinite Season 3 issues. We do our best to monitor channels but PLEASE file an official support ticket if you encounter problems. This is critical in getting the right info and helping assess scope and priority. TY! https://t.co/lKJdxQbcBe

Twitter · Mar 8, 2023, 7:29 PM

[coarse dagger]

Hanging in there

[mental trench]

I think we all just need to take a breather. The issues of Infinite span years and the current team cannot do anything more than they are to resolve it. The people who caused the issues debatably are now gone. Season 3 has been pretty solid so far compared to previous seasons. They should be given praise and credit where it is due.

[leaden shard]

Good to hear. You're doing great, considering the circumstances. Call me out for my heresy, community, but despite all the wrong that's been done, I can see effort in trying to clean things up.

[novel pike]

Keep calm and enjoy yourselves.

[thorn hollow]

I just can't praise a game that took my money day 1, for making a season that's better than the lowest points. Money is seriously tight, carting out store content and battle passes isn't helping me lose the feelings from those Halo 5 Req Pack ViDocs.

[mental trench]

You didn’t have to spend any money

[ancient sun]

at least 90%+ of items in H5 could be obtained free

[fallow merlin]

Ugh. This is one of those places? Anyone know a good server that supports freedom?

[ancient sun]

i got u

[thorn hollow]

@mental trench @ancient sun "Have to" oh yeah, that's what they meant when they said "oh. They're gonna love this" as they designed a gambling mechanic. Without the multiplayer as a value add, I paid money for a disappointing campaign and grinding made worse than the test case in the MCC. Battle passes They wanted gamblers to feel sick until they gave them the money, or they would have kept the less abusive MCC system. No good reason to have the campaign unlocks be the same colour on near every weapon and vehicle. This game was designed for cash first, experience second, or reporting abusive players wouldn't be a "future" feature.

[ancient sun]

i have no idea what you just said

[thorn hollow]

Halo 5 brought mtx to Halo, Infinite just added a store page to launch

[ancient sun]

You mentioned Halo 5 req pack vidocs, and I just assumed you were referring to the fact that Halo 5 had the option to pay for packs.

But really, other than the voices of War, and the HCS teams, all the rest of the items were obtainable for Free.

[zenith holly]

Those stuff are optional though, was really up to you on whether or not you want to buy said armor or coating

[ancient sun]

If only we knew then, what we know now, I think we would all have loved the H5 system of unlocking items.

[thorn hollow]

They were tuned to give poor rates, such as when you needed to unlock the ability to even find certain items in said packs. They are abusive.

The logic of "just don't do it" is a poor argument when loot boxes and Fomo are under such scrutiny. If they didn't want people to feel bad, the store wouldn't rotate.

[ancient sun]

only abusive if you chose to pay.
The items were all earnable through playing the game and using your Req Points.

[smoky wave]

They are still lootboxes

[zenith holly]

Well I mean if the packs were earnable by playing the game, that's fine. But if you were the ones that spend real money on a pack that doesn't guarantee what you want then that's on you.

[devout kite]

Is it me or the Avalanche slate is basically the redsteel splinter coating but not shinny and a different primary color

[thorn hollow]

I did earn req points, and I did notice how they added different raritys of "req points boosters" to make up for the bad rates. Reach did not need it, no game needs it

[ancient sun]

yep!
My personal opinion is that free lootboxes are better than infinite's paid system for most of it's items.

[smoky wave]

Again, having to rely on RNG to get what you want is still not ideal

[ancient sun]

again, this made no sense

[thorn hollow]

I can understand a preference, but given what we had, and what we are left with, I'd rather no Halo than 5 or Infinite mtx systems

[zenith holly]

Or at least have infinite give us more difficult challenges and reward us credits.

[misty flume]

So dumb that I’m still not able to mix and match armor between Mark V and Mark VII considering they’re pretty much the same

[smoky wave]

I also wish to have a permanent store at least instead of rotational one but 🤷‍♂️

[thorn hollow]

They added req boosters, to increase the reqs you earn, meaning they know it is unsatisfying to receive so few. Same problem with Infinites launch rewards for matches. The 300xp degrading to 50xp again is awful

[mental trench]

You didn’t have to buy anything though

[ancient sun]

nope, it's not ideal.
Never said it was.
But I think it's better than what we have now.

because 90%+ of the items in H5 were free - and you'd unlock them all eventually, even if in random order.

In Infinite, you can 'pay for what you want' - but the free items make up less than 50% of what's overall available

[ancient sun]

no, it was not 'unsatisfying'
They added XP boosters AND Rew Point Booster - to allow people to move through each of those 'progressions' faster.

[thorn hollow]

Gambling addicts don't have to do anything

[thorn hollow]

Why would you want to get through something faster if it was pleasant?

[mental trench]

Don’t play the game then and get help lol

[ancient sun]

if you chose to play H5 forge only, and just loaded each and every day, you'd get a daily log in pack - so yeah they were free

[zenith holly]

Plus playing enough of halo 5 can earn you plenty of req points to buy a gold pack using points instead of your real money. The only time it's a gambling problem is if you spent real money on them.

[ancient sun]

ok - so you could just log into Halowaypoint on the website and still earn the items for free with the login pack

[zenith holly]

There were log in packs you can get on halo waypoint? I didn't know that

[thorn hollow]

The login pack has reduced rates for items compared to silver and gold, making Warzone pay to win in the process

[ancient sun]

H5 is not free

90% of the cosmetics were free.

[ancient sun]

it still gave you RP though, which you could save up and use to buy silver or gold packs

[zenith holly]

Buddy what end game?

[thorn hollow]

Because bad business practices are excused by choice

[ancient sun]

lol, imagine saying "this free item is cheaper than another free item"

[crystal iron]

The campaign being a standalone 60 buck price given the I formation we have on content DLC aka the lack of it .. feels.like it was not worth that cost.

[thorn hollow]

Buy what you want works better for some companies like Digital Extremes. Selling colour palettes feels more fair than premade decals

[zenith holly]

Okay so you can say the same with mcc cause people bought $60 for it and the cosmetics were free

[smoky wave]

• xbox gold

[ancient sun]

imagine ignoring the fact that there's an entry fee to BOTH games, and that's the platform on which you choose to play it.

THE ITEMS WERE FREE - one free item isn't 'free-er' than another.

[crystal iron]

To me the issue for Halo I finite for me was why get rid of the old Color system. They could have kept that and made the coatings an overlay

[thorn hollow]

Forza unironically should be a model for Halo

Their paint and decal system is good

[crystal iron]

Kinda makes me wonder if the people who actually paid for it and not used Gamepass got screwed over a bit. I don't really see the return on such a purchase that feels extremely limited

[ruby knoll]

I'm like 70% sure the pricing is a ploy by Microsoft to get more people on gamepass

[ancient sun]

I could go to a friends house and play H5 on my profile, with never buying a console or the game, and I'd still earn ALL the cosmetics we're talking about for free.

[crystal iron]

Most likely, makes sense why the campaign was 60 bucks, most Gamepass user don't even notice that, and have no real loss since it was free on gamepass

[tight apex]

If you have an XBox and you don't have Game Pass what are you even doing

If you play 3 games on Game Pass each year, it has paid for itself and everything else is essentially free

[crystal iron]

I never said it was free but the game volume you have available compared to the yearly cost pays for itself

[thorn hollow]

Other games do levelling well. Titanfall 2 has earnable skins for prestige levels, an MCC style rank system would help place where I actually am in terms of my standing in the armoury.

[zenith holly]

So I guess Artie would rather have it where you buy a halo game for $60 and more with dlc

[thorn hollow]

It worked for 3 and reach

[ancient sun]

sure, this is totally true.

But my point still stands that an item that is free is free - and there are ways to get access to the free item without spending any money in advance.
So stop trying to say that Infinite's free items are 'more free' than H5's

If you said they were more accessible, I would agree.

[crystal iron]

I maybe but I'm also not the best example as my income is extremely disposable lol.

But for me it's worth the price, I have even Been able to pay for Gamepass using my Gamepass rewards points, it essentially pays for itself if you use it the right way

[thorn hollow]

Maps came quicker too, when we paid for them

[crystal iron]

Hey man seriously though, you don't have to be a prick to people in here over this .. it's not that deep.

[exotic vigil]

Maps came quicker when devs worked on their own code not the code of a long gone contract worker

[ancient sun]

and I didn't say that you said 'they are worth more'

Sorry you can't read.

I said you said that infinite's items are 'more free' than H5 - and they aren't

Free is free.

Infinite's free items are more ACCESSIBLE than H 5's but not 'cheaper'

[thorn hollow]

Another problem to be sure, but the culture of quarterly profits that BPs cultivate doesn't help. Why make maps when some temp can be worked to death and fired for a new visor shader?

[ancient sun]

sorry you didn't read any of my other posts more accurately

[crystal iron]

2yr contract, why would anyone get a 2yr contract

[exotic vigil]

Free to play was the worst thing that ever happened to this game

[thorn hollow]

Definitely

[crystal iron]

It's only 1200 that's not that much for a phone.

[thorn hollow]

5 had arguably worse monetization but at least it held together technically. I still play Warzone Firefight on rotation with the other firefights

[ancient sun]

I can make a profile and go play halo 5 at a friend's house and never pay a dime, and earn 90% of Halo 5's items.

Halo 5's items are equally as free as anything else that is free.

[crystal iron]

The guy is just antagonizing at this point man just save your breath.

Some people just come in here to be condescending to others for what we reason

[thorn hollow]

Not as free as Reach's

[novel pike]

👍

So anyways, who else likes to be able to play Halo with friends at no cost?

[thorn hollow]

I really hope they get the balance right soon

[ancient sun]

but... they are?

[thorn hollow]

No, reach doesn't even ask for money. 5 does, and it made exclusive voices and gameplay bonuses for it

[crystal iron]

None of my friends play somI just play with Randoms for a round or two, get the weekly than I bounce

[novel pike]

Halo 5 takes like 600 straight hours of pinnacle play to unlock everything.

[thorn hollow]

Regular Warzone gets pay2win, Firefight at least makes it PvE

[novel pike]

And that number is from early into the game's life.

[exotic vigil]

I wouldn’t know because the game won’t even load because the game is broken

[ancient sun]

reach doesn't ask for money.
Halo 5 doesn't ask for money.
Halo give gives you the option to pay with money.

Just because YOU choose (royal you) to pay for something in Halo 5, doesn't mean it's also not available for free, and doesn't reduce it's 'freeness'

[thorn hollow]

I'd have paid for "armour packs" for Reach, the armour teased in the trailer we got in MCC recently was a great idea

[tight apex]

I find Halo Infinite's slow-paced structure way more sustainable and refreshing than any other live service game I've ever played. I don't want a game to treat me like it wants to be the ONLY GAME I PLAY

[mental trench]

I think time gated content should only exist if it cycles

[thorn hollow]

No, it does. It wouldn't explode into confetti if it didn't want me to pay for more of them, and voices of Reach is paid content outright. Maps, you can debate quality, but THOSE were free in 5

[mental trench]

There’s no point adding content then permanently removing it like the hcs bundles unless teams fold

[ancient sun]

news flash

The confetti explosion happens with free packs too.

[novel pike]

Reach costs money and way too much time, 5 costs money and asks for more money, Halo Infinite is totally free with free things, and the option to pay if you want.

[crystal iron]

The market for Games in general is Targeted to the newer gaming generation which have grown used to the free to Play BP stuff... Honestly as much as many of us don't prefer it, we are substantially out numbered by their target market. So not much will change

[tight apex]

Like last night I had a brief thought that "I should finish up some more challenges in Fortnite before the season ends" and then just said "Ah screw it, I'm having more fun with Halo right now"

[thorn hollow]

Yeah, and it's to make you like the packs. So you want more. So when you run out of points, you're incentivized to buy

[exotic vigil]

“Bro its free bro just accept bad games because they are free bro its free you should have no standards”

[thorn hollow]

It's a skinner box, Blizzard uses them, everyone uses them

[ancient sun]

false, when I run out of points, I don't buy more packs.
I play the game more to earn more points.

[novel pike]

People can have different standards.

[crystal iron]

But if you spend to much time obsessing over one game it becomes rather toxic to you when the game industry shifts like this... Really it should just be a leisure play type of thing

[thorn hollow]

Why not let you buy with points like reach if they didn't want you to buy packs?

[novel pike]

Infinite is some of the best Halo multiplayer I've ever played, and has gotten me to love modes I never looked at before.

[tight apex]

Ultimately yes, we are all choosing which fiddles we'd like to play while Rome burns

[exotic vigil]

And your standards are why halo is dying

[thorn hollow]

There is no benefit to the player, since you can't skip tiers either due to the licenses required for certain items to drop

[ancient sun]

why not let you buy with points like reach

Bro, that's exactly what H5 allowed.

[novel pike]

👍

Which of us is playing Halo, again?

[exotic vigil]

Not me because the game is so broken I literally can’t

But at least its f2p

[thorn hollow]

I do not remember being able to choose what helmet I wanted and pay for it using in-game points

[crystal iron]

Eh if it happens it happens in the end it's just a video game. We can always find other outlets on entertainment I'm not really too concerned with it

[ancient sun]

none of us, we all just argue about it

[novel pike]

I'm on it right now.

[exotic vigil]

I’m sorry about that

[thorn hollow]

Firefight additions are the best MCCs had it in years

[ancient sun]

I guess you never capitalized on the packs that would get offered from time to time for RP that unlocked a specific set of items then.

[novel pike]

Keep your sorry.

[misty flume]

Reach’s customization was infinitely better in large part because it didn’t have cores

[thorn hollow]

No, I didn't, and that's another part of the Fomo to draw people back

[novel pike]

Reach's customization was horrid.

[ruby knoll]

Because they were cut from the base game to sell!

[zenith holly]

People argue about halo more than they play it and yet still argue and complain when they don't even play halo anymore, if you stopped playing halo all together you shouldn't be complaining

[novel pike]

Time to grind the daily challenges for a month and a half just to buy an attachment.

[thorn hollow]

What? Some of them were made by Certain Affinity, you mean all of them? I don't think the timeline fits

[exotic vigil]

Imagine having so many maps you can cut some and still have more maps at launch than a game 7 years in development

[misty flume]

I dunno, being able to use everything I earn on my one Spartan was pretty great

[novel pike]

Did people forget how Reach items started to cost like fifteen million points to purchase?

[earnest thunder]

What are peoples thoughts on 152 now that watchdog looks like how it was advertised?

[misty flume]

Instead of an entirely worthless battle pass that gives me armor for a new core I don’t use

[ruby knoll]

Infinite had 1 less map at launch than 3 did lol

[thorn hollow]

It can be tweaked, throwing it out entirely for reqs or this... Current situation seems hasyy

[ancient sun]

watchdog reward is better now.
152 is still insane

[exotic vigil]

Did anyone even play h5 enough to unlock it

[thorn hollow]

*hasty

[novel pike]

If you buy or level it. If you don't want the stuff, then don't buy it. eZPz.

[ancient sun]

a few thousand people got to 152

[exotic vigil]

Can’t even beat a game that came out over a decade ago lmao

[ruby knoll]

The reach grind was intentionally long to keep people on XBL Gold longer. Also why the offline grind was neutered into oblivion

[ruby knoll]

I mean Infinite's maps need more development time just from all maps having to support bots

[thorn hollow]

Fair points. I'd like Reach's system to improved and made better, not made longer or segmented for cash

Consumers rights are more important than bottom lines

[ancient sun]

the primary reason the offline grind was neutered was because it was exploitable.
Keeping people on Gold was an added bonus

[ruby knoll]

It's kinda sad that Halo didn't have bots until Infinite. Or CGB until 5

[misty flume]

Ah, yes. Either use 18 different Spartans, each of which with limited options, or never earn anything new. Great system!

[exotic vigil]

And because theres probably like 10 people who worked on the original infinite code still at 343

[novel pike]

Do you want to use those new Spartans?

Are those new Spartans required to play the game?

[misty flume]

No I want the extremely limited amount of armor content 343 produces to be universally usable

[zenith holly]

I've seen people play with default armor stuff so I don't know what's Jedis problem

[wooden briar]

I have no idea what you guys have been debating, but I love how you summarized this. Time = Money.

[thorn hollow]

I want to use PART of them. The shoulders on my Reach core would look great on my Mk 7, but alas

[exotic vigil]

Maybe they want to be able to have an experience as good as what we had 16 years ago

[novel pike]

Why not use the Vb shoulders on Vb?

[ruby knoll]

No? 343i still has a couple hundred employees. Not including external partners like Skybox Labs

[exotic vigil]

I’m saying they probably weren’t the original devs that built slipspace

[zenith holly]

They've been arguing with the halo 5 req packs to either earn or buy with real money which lead to other stuff that people buy and yet complain about

[thorn hollow]

Why are old helmets missing attachments anyway? CQB is missing the camera/uplink combo, only one or the other. Multiple non-overlapping attachments should be fine

[celest heron]

https://twitter.com/EliteFalcon_YT/status/1633381548736102400?cxt=HHwWgIC-sar396otAAAA

EliteFalcon (@EliteFalcon_YT)

For anyone that's crashing on Halo Infinite on PC

It looks like it's a much bigger issue on Nvidea GPU's. So sadly the best thing you can do is just wait for Nvidea to pump out a driver update or hopefully 343 fix it for you.

Anyone on AMD gpu's let me know how it's going

Twitter · Mar 8, 2023, 8:18 AM

[novel pike]

And how is customization at all a necessary part of playing the game?

[ruby knoll]

Ah yes here we have a Microsoft employee who knows the inner composition of developers at 343

[thorn hollow]

Why'd they add it then if it isn't important?

[novel pike]

Plenty of them have attachments that they didn't on Reach.

[novel pike]

Because it's optional. People are acting like it's the only thing in the game.

[ruby knoll]

RX580 here, no issues when i played yesterday

[misty flume]

Because it’s fun to customize a Spartan

[wooden briar]

Ah, the ol' H5 Req pack disgruntlement. I enjoyed those a lot: the price of less than an hour of my salary I could have multiple experiences of opening something and discovering something cool inside.

[thorn hollow]

It's close, BtB maps are few in Infinite

[coarse dagger]

Let's keep it constructive please

[thorn hollow]

I can't even have a snow mission during campaign

[ruby knoll]

343 did a lot bungie couldn't lol

[exotic vigil]

Imagine having to justify features we’ve had for decades

[exotic vigil]

You’re right not even bungie could have killed halo this well

[misty flume]

Exactly 😂

[novel pike]

Halo 3 had less options than any given armor core. Infinite takes less investment and playtime than Reach ever would.

[ruby knoll]

Reddit moment

[thorn hollow]

New roadmap can't come soon enough

[signal ivy]

This is like gen chat 2.0

[smoky wave]

But worse

[misty flume]

Earning quality content over time sounds pretty good to me

[ruby knoll]

Just look at h5/Infinite forge. Leagues ahead of 3/reach forge or 4's

[signal ivy]

That's the 2.0 part lol

[smoky wave]

Lmao

[wooden briar]

The length of your experience with the IP never gave you any increased right to influence its development. Choosing to invest your time in something with non-guaranteed ROI was purely on you.

[ruby knoll]

Yeah, like how 4 did

[zenith holly]

Well hears the thing, if you had an option to earn the in game currency by just playing the game and buying a pack with that said currency would you rather have that or just spend your real money on the packs?

[thorn hollow]

I've only heard bad things about the experience of creation; online only, crashes, generally kills the vibe of good creators and makes their job harder. This technical stuff is a bit ridiculous considering how all the old Halos hold up even 20 yrs later

[novel pike]

Because when can anyone ever talk about the good parts? Positive discussions are rammed into the ground on sight.

[wooden briar]

That was the great thing about the H5 system: you could spend either Time or Cash, whichever was a better deal for you. Favoring "earned via gameplay" without a way to substitute dollars for hours is just catering to those who are time-rich. Why not let both spend what they want?

[ruby knoll]

I mean there's some stability issues, but the capabilities of forge are endlessly greater

Meanwhile 3/reach forge fail to hold up to map editors that came before them

[novel pike]

Halo 5 was spending on spending for a gamble.

Infinite is free with the option to buy exactly what you know you are going to get.

[zenith holly]

Because people think it enables gambling

[novel pike]

With, count it out with me, two choices for armor customization. Helmet, and suit.

[thorn hollow]

The problem with that is suits don't care about harming their "lessers" with bad practices. It's why kids can spend thousands on Fortnite with no refunds

[ruby knoll]

Or why map packs paywalled people out of playlists back in the ol' days

[novel pike]

We don't talk about that anymore.

[wooden briar]

That's on the kids' parents. Kids can also spend their parents' CC on Doordash, Amazon, Apple Store, anything else. It's not the seller's responsibility to police what kids do with their parents' money.

[novel pike]

The paywall is polygons now.

[crystal iron]

instruction manual on how to effectively use halo infinites forge mode

https://tenor.com/view/flip-book-the-twilight-zone-blurryman-book-reading-book-gif-21893070

[misty flume]

Infinite would be fine if you just had one Spartan and also could pick your own colors and emblems

[thorn hollow]

That's not the logic that keeps kids banned from smoking, it's that companies will get you hooked and abuse you on it

[novel pike]

I'll keep the separate and thematic cores, thank you.

[thorn hollow]

Horse armour used to be a joke

[wooden briar]

Then get your government to implement regulation against what you think is bad practice. If enough people think you're right, it will become law. Until then, you're stuck with what you've got.

[novel pike]

Halo with jokes, the absolute horror.

[thorn hollow]

Or I could decide not to play the F2P skinner box, like most people chose to

[novel pike]

Bungie would never add comedy or silly looking stuff.

[thorn hollow]

Infinites numbers can't survive this kind of snark

[mental trench]

That’s not how it works fyi

[wooden briar]

Correct: totally up to you if you decide to not play the game.

[ruby knoll]

I personally blame the moment that monetizing online became a viable model

[wooden briar]

ok bud

[misty flume]

You could literally use thematic armor on your one Spartan 😂

[thorn hollow]

Glad poor people should just stop being poor

[mental trench]

Calm down lol

[thorn hollow]

Addicts should just not get addicted

[young glen]

If you're low income then a F2P game is better.

[novel pike]

That's the neat thing, the game is free.

[misty flume]

Also yeah, there’s just a HUGE thematic difference between the Mark V and Mark VII, right?

[ruby knoll]

Yeah! They should just pay up for map packs so their Xbox live gold subscriptions don't become worthless !

[wooden briar]

That's not what either side of the argument is saying. But again, its your choice whether to play a video game or not.

[crystal iron]

people getting addicted to buying skins is an issue indeed

[misty flume]

“The game is free so it can suck”

[novel pike]

My bad, I forgot Yoroi is just a Rakshaka clone.

[thorn hollow]

Why do they keep addiction specialists to formulate their drop rates?

[novel pike]

What drop rates? Where's the gambling in Infinite?

[wooden briar]

I'm very calm. It's the "omg this is so awful for Halo!" exaggerators that need to calm down.

[thorn hollow]

PvE modes used to do wonders when I couldn't afford Gold. Now where am I left with no PvE?

[thorn hollow]

Mostly with 5, tho they dropped that like the rest of the industry when loot boxes began to be regulated

[ruby knoll]

You mean the lack of PvE in h2 or 3?

[young glen]

You could play Halo Infinite.

[novel pike]

Campaign? Any of the other Halo titles you still own? It's not like 343 broke into your house and stole them.

[wooden briar]

Then one game's mode that you personally like may not be available for you to play. Not the worst fate in life.

[misty flume]

If you changed your armor, it would change your appearance, wouldn’t it?

[novel pike]

And that would be different from separate cores how? Making it take a whole lot longer to swap between them?

[crystal iron]

I do miss PVE, hopefully with forge AI forge community can really build some amazing PVE modes

[thorn hollow]

@novel pike @young glen Campaigns bad, no story conclusion or biomes. Disappointed.

@wooden briar
Given your joy seems to come from buying things, you don't care about the progression system much at all. Just put a Warframe style store, and you can have your way while being less abused

[novel pike]

ODST just had one biome, horrid game. Total ripoff.

[misty flume]

Yes because you could mix and match. Like I could use the Aviator helmet on the same Spartan as my SAP / CQC shoulder

[thorn hollow]

ODST had ai companioms that could drive

Infinite is missing a lot

[wooden briar]

My first love is PvE too: foundational Halo experience was playing the campaigns in co-op with a friend. Hopefully the more advanced tools will allow for just what you said.

[novel pike]

Because they just had the absolute best pathfinding anyways.

[lime robin]

I regret to inform that I've fallen into the category of players who can't play S3

[ruby knoll]

Nvidia?

[crystal iron]

Can only get imagine a Spartan ops warzone firefight hybrid mode

[lime robin]

Yes, but it's not a crashing issue. Stuff won't load.

[crystal iron]

whats wrong with season 3 now

[wooden briar]

You just described my dream come true.

[ruby knoll]

Throw dominion in there please and thank you

[misty flume]

Also if your issue is the time it takes to customize, then make armor universally usable and then have armor loadouts

[thorn hollow]

Good reason to have Chief be the only one in a tank during the universe saving tank run! The Ark was a boring level anyway /s

[wooden briar]

Solution: we'll do a text-based adventure based on the game.

[thorn hollow]

Marines do nothing in Infinite

[crystal iron]

without networking of course, that part is too difficult

[novel pike]

1. As always
2. Porcupine Razorback

[wooden briar]

It'll be in VC where the host reads the text and the rest of the group makes the choice.

[ruby knoll]

I don't get how this community is both like
"Ewww chimera core bad"

And then
"Zomg let me slap all armor on all the differently shaped bipeds because hurr"

[novel pike]

So, armor cores. Alright.

[novel pike]

Precisely.

[ruby knoll]

I think there should be some multicore stuff but there's clearly a lot of armor not meant to go on other stuff

And if options are such a big deal why be mad if some people like the fractures cores?

[novel pike]

"We hate these mismatched abominations!"
"Let us chuck together whatever we want!"

[misty flume]

You’re either missing or ignoring the root of my point. I want to be able to mix and match. The cores as they are keep everything separate

[thorn hollow]

Yes, because infinite ammo rockets were the most interesting build in Halo. I just want an actual open world like advertised, with maybe some turrets for them to man. Infinite has no Spartans aside from Chief, noone does anything but him. It's odd considering how pivotal Miranda and Johnson were

[white birch]

I still want the folding shovel from Rakshasa on Eaglestrike. Its too obvious not to include.

[novel pike]

The cores keep everything clean and good looking.

[crystal iron]

A mode where you have to scuttle a Banished dreadnaught. With sub taskissions so you can split up a 12 man Spartan team to handle all task plus the main one than you have to escape

[novel pike]

I'm not misunderstanding anything, I just don't agree with you.

[white birch]

Relatedly the huge canteen from Eaglestrike would look pretty good on Rakshasa or MK VII honestly. The one on MK VII as it is it way too bloody small

[teal scarab]

Has anybody else been experiencing random crashes today?

[ruby knoll]

I do think the execution has been lacking

[wooden briar]

They did confirm they're moving intentionally towards more mixing & matching. Apparently it was easier to start with visors and then some helmet attachments, but they're actively working on more interchangeability.

[thorn hollow]

Having a pelican would make the maps feel alive, pvp or pve. Bigger matches fit the setting

[novel pike]

The execution is more in depth that 3 and more available than Reach or 5.

[misty flume]

They could look clean and good looking with universal armor customization if the customization system was good and if you’re good at making them clean of good looking

[ruby knoll]

They should've had a bunch more default coatings and on all cores from launch

And they should've had more armor for each core ready to go

[misty flume]

I am cautiously optimistic

[ruby knoll]

Those are my two main issues with the core system's execution

[white birch]

Paying for whites still annoying, wheres my Cadet White

[novel pike]

On a tangent, the Sandgrass fields and Steel coatings are pretty nice.

I hope they add more Steels.

And yes, Cadet White.

[wooden briar]

They should have had more cross-promotional coatings and armor pieces to make the store pop: like my aforementioned Halo x McDonald's. Or consider Halo x Dunkin Donuts. Almost too gorgeous to think of.

[ruby knoll]

Exactly! 343 left themselves open to criticism by not having a big pool of default coatings.

Another issue i have with coatings is that there should be way more in general, and more exotic looking ones

[crystal iron]

tree thor tree

[white birch]

A lot of them are extensively bland which I blame as a case of "fill the roster and the store" similar to some of the armor designs in Halo 5.

[ruby knoll]

I need to get my thoughts on infinite down. S3 has arrived after all

[wooden briar]

Halo x Disney Princesses would have added tons of pizzazz.

[ruby knoll]

The long awaited AC review of Infinite

[white birch]

I can think of at least four people who would buy those withou thestiation

[smoky wave]

I would just because

[wooden briar]

lol me too

[crystal iron]

I hope my Chimera core gets cross core helmets... I want Locks Hunter Helmet for it

[ruby knoll]

Contrary to what some may think I'm going to put in a fair amount of criticism

[smoky wave]

How could you

[white birch]

No word on crosscore helmets yet, and Im not sure if we'll ever get them.
Personally Im fine with that, there was some pretty nasty jank in H5 I really didnt like much.
Looking at YOU Timmy helmet on Helljumper...

[wooden briar]

Same. I personally want Warmaster on it: that exposed physique / raw aggression vibe.

[ruby knoll]

I'm even going to criticize the monetization 😈

[misty flume]

Yeah they should get rid of customization all together and have cross-promotion skins instead and also make a Battle Royal and also you’ll start said Battle Royal on a bus

[celest heron]

even if it's creative (ugly) I'd still rather have full cross core.

[crystal iron]

elephant*

[white birch]

Nah, Heron, like they use in Halo Wars.
That'd be big enough to hold 100 Spartans.

[wooden briar]

Let's go even further: Halo x School Bus, with bus-inspired armor pieces and bright yellow coatings. Emblem says "-C-OOL BUS". 😎

[novel pike]

I would be down for helmets from some cores being added in the style of other cores. Like ODST and MK V being on both Reach and VII, or that Scout helmet from the Yoroi emblem and VII.

Or sticking a bit of everything on MK VII, but keeping the sources separate.

[stoic musk]

Is there any discussion on leavers in ranked?

[wooden briar]

All this mention of MK makes me wish for something I do legit think would be cool as a crossover: Halo x Mortal Kombat.

[misty flume]

Even if they don’t do full cross customization, would will be happy with Mark V and Mark VII being able to fully mix and match since they’re about the same

[smoky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wow-shock-drama-ohhh-gif-22585288

[novel pike]

Keep Reach as Reach.

[celest heron]

what about them?

[crystal iron]

cat

[crystal iron]

Naw orbital drop pods

[lime robin]

Detail your issue in a #1075989764026675210 post. Do read the post that says "Read me first!".

[wooden briar]

Grappleshot armbrace piece and gloves could look like Scorpion.

[karmic oriole]

Anyone have full details on what changes have been made to preexisting maps on halo infinite? Behemoth got like completely remade (railing at spawns, bigger rocks along edge of map) and live fire now has a burnt door on the bottom.

[lime robin]

https://support.halowaypoint.com/hc/en-us/articles/13604235246356#h_01GTJHSNWP6X74868AEZH0RNH6

Scroll to the beginning, everything they changed is there :)

[crystal iron]

Wonder if they will bring back Spartan booties

[novel pike]

Now this is an actually relevant discussion.

[ivory glacier]

What is going on with the melees? Gameplay feels different too

[crystal iron]

maybe next time

[novel pike]

Addendum, with their physiques and the thickness of the armor, Infinite is about how Spartans would actually look.

[crystal iron]

This is the way

[limpid nova]

These new maps are not it

[low cloak]

Is anyone else unable to launch the game on PC since the update?

[tulip vortex]

No, they wouldn’t actually. As someone who works out quite frequently, someone as jacked as a Spartan would be caked up

It’s human anatomy

[sullen kiln]

For community based support, please refer to #1075989764026675210. Remember this is community sourced and operated, for official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[low cloak]

I see

[novel pike]

Thick, but balanced. Throw a dart at an Olympic athlete. Then stick them in riot armor.

[crystal iron]

Balanced as all things should be

[celest heron]

[mossy elm]

Did all the games merge into one channel here?

[coarse dagger]

#1076337363770417172

You can use tags for discussion threads

[celest heron]

rather have channels and threads could be for more specific feedback.

[crystal iron]

thats what it should be for, 99% of peeps aren't gunna use these forums for talking normally

[celest heron]

just let it go

[coarse dagger]

Cayde, stop bringing it up

[ruby iris]

First game of the update and before it could even load into the game it crashed. 10/10

[cedar prism]

I notice it too, feels bad man, hopefully a temporary problem

[stone raven]

how do you guys think halo could be saved?

[crystal iron]

I'm so lost is that topic something we aren't allowed to talk about in here?

[crystal iron]

I crashed so many times yesterday that I got a soft ban for " quiting" too many games. Which means that's still going to be a persistent problem

It's one thing to crash in a game where you can just hop back in no consequences but when the game can't distinguish between crashing and quiting than it becomes a frustrating problem

[tardy turtle]

For anyone at 343, how possible would it be on armor models to have the player's emblem appear on top of Chest attachments? Right now so many of them cover up the emblems.

[crystal iron]

Yea I don't think they really thought that one through... At least have the emblem moved

[mossy elm]

I am loving my updated Sr152 watchdog coating. Got it on all my cores happily now

[crystal iron]

I'm assuming it's a sore subject around these parts.

I'm still getting used to how these discords work.

I remember the waypoint Forum was a bit more laxed on topics. So long as you just weren't outright being rude.

Where can I submit bug reports?

[sullen kiln]

Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket
https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[celest heron]

I wasn't referring to your content. when you get warned, you don't keep bringing it up unless you want to get in more trouble.

[crystal iron]

Ok still a bit lost I figured it was due too the verbage I used.

[crystal iron]

Like I still don't understand what was in appropriate about what I said so it's kinda confusing

[celest heron]

you can dm mod mail if you want an answer.

[crystal iron]

Is there a link to that.

[celest heron]

it's Exuberant Witness (the bot)

[crystal iron]

Alright awesome yea The only other discord I have is a COD one, the same day I joined this one and.boy that one is a freaking warzone

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1633593023715250178?t=gDU35RSk92B501vVnfU68g&s=19

Halo Support (@HaloSupport)

The #HaloInfinite team is investigating a Forge issue affecting the pivot point of primitive spheres. Currently, sphere objects may be appearing in unintended locations. An upcoming update will resolve this issue & restore the original positions of spheres in affected maps. (1/2)

Twitter · Mar 8, 2023, 10:18 PM

[crystal iron]

I wonder if they will add a Tea Bag Medal... I have like 20 of those by the end of the match

[ruby iris]

Lol now even the scoreboard doesn't work

[crystal iron]

I could barely see the numbers wish I could change them to black instead of Pulsating white where it gets bleached out of the view

[ruby iris]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2039606262025866978/25BC768E66D82F9CA50C18A0B7CE71EF8AF6445B/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[crystal iron]

Have you had the ug where you can't do anything on that new Forerunner map like you can t shoot, you can jump, nothing

[ruby iris]

Marty O'Donnell damn

I know the filter needs to be tight but yeesh

[distant wraith]

I seem to be having issues when trying to launch the game
I try on steam, I hit the launch game button, it tries to launch for a second or two, then fails to launch and then resets to pre-launch status

any advise on how to fix?

[crystal iron]

I'm assuming you also said something that got scrapped

[sullen kiln]

For community based support, please refer to #1075989764026675210. Remember this is community sourced and operated, for official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[ruby iris]

Apparently blasphemy laws are still a thing

[distant wraith]

what is the expected response time from support?

[crystal iron]

Blasphemy Laws?

[distant wraith]

laughs in MA (we still have remnants of the blue laws)

[ruby iris]

God and damn without the and.

[zealous panther]

also im kinda confused, and i didn't thought about it before, but why chest attachments are not colored at all? am i doing something wrong here?

[crystal iron]

I have to be extra Careful because I jump between here and the COD discord... That other one is a Free for all lol

[crystal iron]

whole game falling apart, needs more glue

[crystal iron]

The Blue Laws?

[distant wraith]

they were religious laws left over from the puritans, stuff on alcohol sales and businesses not being allowed to open on Sundays

[crystal iron]

Naw Just throw on that flex tape and all is good lol

[crystal iron]

Ahhh yea that explains a possibility as to why one of my last comments was deleted.

[coarse dagger]

Less talk of the filters please, more talk about Halo

[warped relic]

The new cores are neat but the crysis looking one still has the barely any options suffering that the previous fracture cores had

[zealous panther]

about halo, chest pieces was always not colored solid color things?

[crystal iron]

I mean techniqually it is Halo Related more so related to the topics of the discord of Halo itself

[warped relic]

Muh cross core would make these cores 10x cooler

[ruby iris]

I would love to but my game has crashed twice and the scoreboard doesn't work.

[crystal iron]

But if more Halo is what you want, than let's begin the topic of Proper ettiqutte for Teabagging...

Do you do a quick one or is it the whole Kill cam

[coarse dagger]

Please turn off the ping when replying, thanks

[coarse dagger]

Submit a support ticket please

[crystal iron]

So like this

[rocky cipher]

Sounds like regular ops to me

[warped relic]

One or two quick bags if I'm just laughin, good 5 second bag if it's an amazing kill (or killing someone who teabagged me first)

The art of teabagging is lost on the younger Halo players, I have lots of deaths where I say "c'mon teabag me I did horribly" and they just don't

[crystal iron]

Definitely a long duration of Bags of it's an amazing kill. I like to rotate as I do that too to add extra Zest to it

[still lava]

have the halo servers in general just been rly bad lately? I've been getting extremely unstable ping in infinite, mcc, and HW definitive edition recently. I've been teleporting around the map on infinite like crazy, blackscreening on mcc, but my internet hasnt changed - 100Mb/s down and up. It isnt happening in other multiplayer games i play

[warped relic]

Mouse aim with the fast turning really adds a lot to a good bag if you spin aim around randomly

[analog salmon]

i t-bag a bit faster then is tradition because the game is fast pace and i gotta move quickly, but the spin just looks so good in infinite

[novel pike]

The Crysis, Chimera, one still hasn't had it's event start.

[warped relic]

My favorite (and rarely seen) teabag is the warthog turret teabag, on high sensitivity you can go much faster than a normal crouch bag

[analog salmon]

also if you do the spin you can watch for enemies while you are bagging

[rocky cipher]

yeah they have been, profiles wont load and general lag is pretty terrible so far

[crystal iron]

Teabag with the song you spin me right round baby right round as I spin above their corpse lol

[still vault]

why cant i have my name as my name

why halo

[still lava]

my troubles have been happening for like a week or two, i dont feel like it's related to the infinite update

And in Infinite I constantly have had 20-700ms ping with "unstable jitter" constant :/ idek what that means

[zealous panther]

i hate plasma pistol nerf. i swear i can't hit it a single time in past 10 or so games. And charge time... ugh...

[crystal iron]

Wait I just realized that door is the door from the Academy level... The paint wore off and it shows an ONI sumbol

[novel pike]

And no EMP effect.

[crystal iron]

They really shouldn't have messed with the OH plasma Pistol set up. Felt like a Change just for the sake of change type of thing

[zealous panther]

im ok with no emp. but tracking now are just horrendous

[stone raven]

do you guys think we will get a sequel to odst?

[still lava]

no

[stone raven]

why?

[still lava]

do u mean a game similar to it in theme / gameplay / aesthetic, or literally about the same characters

[novel pike]

Rookie is dead.

[still lava]

cuz the characters have their own plotlines resolved in canon now i think

[novel pike]

Among many other things with that squad.

I think Alpha Nine is mostly back together, but the composition is different now.

[zealous panther]

why rookie is dead?

[novel pike]

Comic or book thing.

[kindred harbor]

Hey everyone does anyone have information on how they were gonna drop shop items over time? I vaguely remember hearing they would drop a bundle and then the pieces in the bundle after?

[celest heron]

could always do odst's on infinite

[warped relic]

EMP should be plasma overcharge only and shock weapons should only do the bouncing damage with no emp in my opinion. Shocks are way too easy to punish vehicles with

[novel pike]

I do miss my ODSTs, and we could get a somewhat similar tone and setting on the new installation.

[kindred harbor]

agreed

[stone raven]

Yes I'm aware that half of the team got turned into spartan's but how about a prequal style sequel to dost set further back into the human covenant war

[warped relic]

Lazily chucking a shock grenade and emping multiple vehicles zzzzzzzzzz

[novel pike]

It could be neat to see more of Buck and Dare's original interactions. She seemed to know his original squad.

[zealous panther]

and what is the difference between this and 1.6 sec charge plasma shot?

[still lava]

plasma pistol range is a lot less, u can snipe stun vehicles

[novel pike]

I don't think Alpha Nine was together in the first game's lineup for very long.

[warped relic]

Plasma overcharge is harder to hit, has a windup, requires you to drop a better weapon for a utility weapon, and the vehicle can actually evade it if they're a good driver. Shock weapons can hit you from miles away and the shot is hard to see, and hitscan

[stone raven]

well if you want more detail on this Idea go watch this video from ebr https://youtu.be/AmXfTZcN_HI?t=347

[zealous panther]

yeah sure... harder... right.

[warped relic]

Shock rifle can reliably emp a vehicle across an entire btb map, good luck doing that with a plasma pistol

If you can't hit a vehicle with hitscan skill issue

[still lava]

it is also a one hit kill with good aim assist (on controller)

[zealous panther]

and how common shock rifle is?

[kindred harbor]

stuns destroy wasp gameplay (imo)

[still lava]

well on fragmentation there is one at spawn...

on highpower as well by the mid cliff

[novel pike]

Wasp gameplay deserves being destroyed.

Especially if the wasp driver is bad enough to take hits.

[warped relic]

All vehicle maps have one or two shock rifle spawns except like, the 4v4 desert map with a banshee

[still lava]

i love warthog action with the homies but the main dude i play with hates infinite cuz we just get stunned by dynamo grenades from a cliff above us all the time

[stone raven]

I wish we got the falcon instead

[warped relic]

That one banshee map is pretty dang fun to slap with the banshee because there is no shock rifle

[novel pike]

Mostly a cosmetic difference. When did anyone ever ride the wings?

[still lava]

i play reach every day and people always get in falcons

[novel pike]

It's hard enough to get people on the Warthog or Mongoose.

I was thinking of the Hornet, got the names swapped around.

[still lava]

true true yeah hornet wings kinda suck as there's no turret, requires having teammates that basically have rockets or other heavy weapons

but yah falcon slaps and dominates regular btb with a great driver

[novel pike]

It'd be awesome if every weapon and vehicle came to Infinite's forge.

As horrendous as some fan maps would then turn out.

[zealous panther]

you can just not play horrendous maps

[warped relic]

A midway between the falcon and wasp would be nice, passenger seats for teamwork with guns capable of killing without being too dominating

Although it's super funne to just have a flag carrier or sniper jump on top of a wasp and fly with em

[zealous panther]

i really don't like how there is no reliable way to kill a wasp

[novel pike]

Unless you're piloting it.

[crystal iron]

Im about to embark on the toughest journey, putting together this treadmill I just bought

[vagrant lake]

How's the new update for infinite?

[ruby iris]

Rough

[zealous panther]

lot's of fun.

[warped relic]

Hydra annihilates any vehicle

[vagrant lake]

Welll how would y'all rate it from 1-10

[warped relic]

I have only played a few matches so far, but the new armor is cool and isn't super far off of mjolnir aesthetic, the new slayer map is cool, the bandit rifle is pretty satisfying to use so far, and I haven't had any noticeable desyncy happen

[ruby knoll]

8, pretty good overall but def needs a hotfix or 2 for the people having issues

[vagrant lake]

Alright well sounds like it's going well then

[vagrant lake]

Is the winter update stuff still available

[vagrant lake]

You mean the dmr

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/RedNomster/status/1633546490026278912?t=I1TDhE2lFmMSBp6GY4A1dg&s=19

G1 RedNomster 💭 (@RedNomster)

I'm making LEGO in #HaloInfinite's Forge mode!

I added a Wild West chunk 🤠
(aka Red base!)

100 Retweets and I'll post a video walkthrough 🤝

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Twitter · Mar 8, 2023, 7:13 PM

WHAT

[crystal iron]

Nice

[river minnow]

hes been making tons of lego sets

[teal pike]

do not do a 2 round escalation match in custom, was stuck with the skull the entire timein round 2

[stone raven]

why have we never seen the ors heavy cruiser in a halo game

[warped relic]

Yeah it's the dmr without a scope, called bandit in game and it peforms a bit differently. It feels like the dmr and commando had a baby

Same shots to kill but not as much zoom and not as long of effective range

[ruby knoll]

Winter Update BP is available still since it was free with no premium tier

[warped relic]

I like the escalation slayer take on the gun game mode...I never liked other games takes on it because the later weapons get better and better, whereas in Infinite the weapons get harder and harder to kill with as it goes on so it's less of "stomp the people who didn't get kills as fast as you" and more challenging

[vagrant lake]

The Varric-pattern Heavy Cruiser is featured in the 2022 Halo Encyclopedia

[stone raven]

well why have we not seen it in any halo game

[vagrant lake]

Ight bet

[teal pike]

it becomes more difficult when in custom. round 2 had me use the skull agianst people with BRS the entire time. thankfully it was a bot match

[vagrant lake]

Technically it's been the games, just in the background, not seen it is mentioned though

[warped relic]

There are lots of things that are established in lore that haven't been in games, there are a bunch of M6 magnum variants that only exist in expanded lore

[grim phoenix]

a new mini expansion for halo infinite and yet, still a massive disappointment, good job 343 you still have yet to fix this open beta. Next time make a real halo. and btw SAM thanks for ruining clan recruitment. You know what would be nice???? if we didn't have to pepper enemies and we could just break their shields....just sayin....stop focusing on the wrong thing in these updates and fix the issues at hand. LOWER THE SHIELDS or INCREASE THE WEAPON DAMAGE......NOT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT........

[warped relic]

Sounds like a skill issue, shields are the same as previous games

[stone raven]

what do you mean in the back round

[warped relic]

The pistol kills even faster than the br, just hit your shots

[stone raven]

well I dont see how the ors covenant ship cant be in the games

[ruby knoll]

this isn't cod with it's 0.0000000001 second ttk

[ornate crescent]

Is the share content section gone?

[ruby knoll]

it is now show and tell

[vagrant lake]

It was stated that an ORS Heavy Cruiser was present during the events of CE in the Halo: The Flood and First Strike, so technically it was in the game, but not really

[vagrant lake]

Same reason the DDS Carrier can't be in a game, they didn't think to include it where it was necessary

[coarse dagger]

#1076327824924872755

[ornate crescent]

oh it was renamed after all this time wow

I did not know that

[stone raven]

that ship is not cannon the drs is

[vagrant lake]

It is canon

[stone raven]

do we see it in the game?

[vagrant lake]

No that's why I said it's in the background

[stone raven]

well It still should be in the games

[vagrant lake]

Tell that to 343

[stone raven]

ok I will

[stone raven]

I will talk to sam

[vagrant lake]

Mhm

[coarse dagger]

Reminder to not ping 343 employees :)

[stone raven]

No I mean dm's

[coarse dagger]

Don't DM them either

[stone raven]

ok whatever

[ancient sun]

So, I've had people tell me there is enemy collision in Infinite - but I don't think there is..
What's the consensus?

[ruby knoll]

there's enemy collision but not friendly collision

[warped relic]

The new btb map is cool but there is a troll spawn where two steps ahead of you is a death pit. The first thing people do when they respawn is move forwards, I hate when devs put spawn points overlooking death pits. Other than that first run on the new btb map was cool

[ruby lake]

troll issue......

[warped relic]

Outside of ranked friendlies only collide with your projectiles and your grenades, but not you....so if you're throwing a plasma grenade while backpedaling your 🧠 teammate can walk through you and cause your grenade to bounce back in your face

Or rocket

Do any old maps get bandit spawns or is it exclusive to new ones?

[devout kite]

I believe so

[supple sigil]

343 mention anything about a hotfix? I haven't been able to play a single game online 😐😐

[warped relic]

Working fine for me right now, try verifying local files maybe?

[ancient sun]

Is there though?
https://twitter.com/storyboardben/status/1633564799392178176

Ben (@storyboardben)

Having a blast using the Shroud Screen, particularly with the lifts on Highpower! @ske7ch @Unyshek @the_real_baron #HaloInfinite

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Twitter · Mar 8, 2023, 8:26 PM

pretty sure that enemy goes RIGHT through him

[crystal iron]

lets just say there should be enemy collision, but seeing as its infinite.. slight chance its broke half the time

[ancient sun]

I feel like more than half

[devout kite]

Collision would be nice but this’s infinite we’re talking about lol

I have a feeling that the new fracture event will open that oni door

[ruby lake]

i hope

[warped relic]

Actually after saying that I get stuck on loading map 0%

[stone raven]

why are there no options for reach fire fight waves for the to be a zealot team?

[warped relic]

100% if enemy collision worked properly it should have launched the first person player forward and disrupted the man cannon enemy's momentum

[ancient sun]

So you're saying there's enemy collision, but it barely works ever?

[warped relic]

There is supposed to be, but I've had similar weird happenings like that where enemies seem to move through me

No image perms but I'm getting an error from infinite

deploy/any/levels/multi/sgh_blueprint/sgh_blueprint-rtx-new.module is damaged, code 00000001

Annnnd it crashed

[supple sigil]

I got one rn, but no progress on my battle pass, and latency feels terrible 💀 fun 😎

[crystal iron]

maybe uh.. infinite should have beta builds like mcc did before a big update came out.. coz this update seems pretty borked for a lot of people

[low musk]

So the Daily shop going forward are going to be individual items from bundles?

[crystal iron]

Ok so correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the whole Nerratove event originally advertised as a story following our MP Spartan...

Or did they just scrap that whole thing all together.

https://twitter.com/Halo/status/1633625559136899072

Halo (@Halo)

To celebrate Pulaski Day, simply log into MCC anytime between now and March 10 to claim your Casimir Pulaski Day nameplate. 🇵🇱🐎

Twitter · Mar 9, 2023, 12:27 AM

[pliant palm]

who was asking about my steam points here yesterday?

[coarse dagger]

@ruby knoll

[ruby knoll]

me

[pliant palm]

lmao

[ruby knoll]

you should let the other CMs farm points smh

[pliant palm]

no one else wants to post over there lmao

[ruby knoll]

I don't blame them

[crystal iron]

So is there any plans of making the store a catalogue store, because right now it does appear that with more Cores. We are going to see Core specific Content thin out. Some cores will get less stuff than others. Or completely forgotten

[warped relic]

Chad reach catalogue vs Infinite rotating $ shop

Now I'm stuck on map loading 0% after a couple reboots...maybe it's specifically fiesta?

[crystal iron]

The reach method was truly the superior one to the current model

[warped relic]

I'm happy that we're back to armor designs more in line with old mjolnir instead of 4/5 at least

[shell wing]

Heya! All how's everyone today

[crystal iron]

True but I am.not rather a huge fan of their We won't do FOMO, store FOMO method lol

[warped relic]

Well the event playlist seems to be loading just fine, but Fiesta seems to be broken for me...gets stuck on 0% and then throws an error and crashes

[lime robin]

This smells like you should verify your file integrity.

[warped relic]

I don't want to beat the dead horse even more but

[warped relic]

I'll try that after this game, the new playlist loaded up fine

[stone raven]

what are these for?

[shell wing]

Finally able to get home and play some more Halo 😔

Interesting day at the Bakery thougH