#what is a cheater and how do i find one?

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celest nebula
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i haven't seem to run into one yet and i'm wondering how i can know so i can report them

drifting orchid
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There’s lots of different forms of cheating. When you see it you will probably know. Here are some common examples:

Abusing the reconnection process : A player letting their turn timer run out without making a move so that a bot takes over for them. They then wait until the remaining players slam eachother and ignore the bot, and then rejoin the game and clean up for an easy win.

Stalling: intentionally using their entire turn timer every single turn with the intent of dragging out the game. Alternatively this also applies to someone who refuses to kill the last remaining player and hold them at 1 territory forever.

Hacking: this one is usually pretty obvious. They can add as many extra troops as they want to the board. They can also change cards and basically whatever else they want.

Collaboration: Two players (or one player on 2 accounts in the same game) who have external communication during the game. Experienced players can sometimes tell when this happening but it’s usually very difficult for newer players to differentiate between a normal alliance formed in game, and two players with external communication. SMG has some pretty good tracking for this so don’t worry too much about reporting this. They will be caught regardless.

limpid crypt
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There are only very few tells that it is a collab
A hits the massive cap and B takes it

proud vigil
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You can only pray to never play with cheaters, hopefully they stay away, because they really make you feel bad

drifting orchid
proud vigil
drifting orchid
# proud vigil One player sucks and one good

I would argue that’s not a sign of cheating. Good players don’t need to collab. And if a good player was collaborating they would be able to help the bad player make good decisions

proud vigil
drifting orchid
# proud vigil Yea, agreed If they Collab Player A just leaves his cap for player B as an exam...

Or it could just be that they got the cap and lost enough that they couldn’t defend it. It’s those type of plays where it could realistically happen without external communication.

The only times where I have been able to say it’s confidently collaboration is when I’m playing a fog game and I make a move against player A that player B should have had no idea was happening (or had any reason to care) and then player B comes and retaliates against me for it. And usually I’m already suspicious of those players because they are both bad, are using the same flag, and joined the lobby at the same time

celest nebula
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Couldn't that be a way to cheat low-key and how could I know cuz I think my friend is cheating liek that he gets that every round

celest nebula
proud vigil
drifting orchid
proud vigil
celest nebula
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But how is that different from an in game alliance?

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I guess it can't be counted as cheating, since an alliance is just that, thanks for the explanation guys I'll save these rules and look for them

drifting orchid
# celest nebula Couldn't that be a way to cheat low-key and how could I know cuz I think my frie...

You can probably be fairly confident your friend isn’t cheating. To hack you would need to be on a computer, be using a VPN, and have the cheating tools open. And their account will get banned anyway every once in a while so they would have to constantly be using new accounts.

A 10 set on 3 is the most likely option so it will happen a lot, but if one player gets it 10 times in a row then that might be pretty suspicious. Even that’s not impossible, just unlikely

celest nebula
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He got a 10 4 times in a row almost every game

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So I'm disappointed if he's cheating

drifting orchid
celest nebula
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A soldier, a horse, and a cannon

celest nebula
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Do people cheat by rolling a little too good too?

drifting orchid
celest nebula
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Hey is it possible to get softbanned

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If you get reported for collaboration, I think me and my friend have been reported for collaboration although it's untrue. Can we disprove this > Or..

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We never played any ranked games together, just casual when it's two because we played a bunch of 1v1s and got bored

proud vigil
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Did you play public casual? Or private?

celest nebula
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But we didn't mean to collaborate, we were talking about life in vc

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Now I think about it, I guess it's fair, and I learnt not to play with friends in public. But I'm sad because I want to play with them, in a large match

proud vigil
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celest nebula
celest nebula
celest nebula
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Is there any punishment for botting out too often?

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My opponents often bot out and I see recurring names

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And it doesn't give the same satisfaction as beating a real player

untold lantern
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untold lantern
proud vigil
drifting orchid
untold lantern
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untold lantern
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ah US

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well still orange homies

drifting orchid
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Orange is universal

celest nebula
drifting orchid
celest nebula
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damn

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that's a sound reasoning

drifting orchid
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In casual, since there is no punishment for losing, players will just surrender if they think they will lose. There’s no reason to stay and fight on for 2nd or even 3rd place. So they surrender and go to the next game where maybe they will have better luck. Since you most likely have active bots on, the bot will continue to fight on. I’d recommend neutral bots for casual so you don’t have to fight bots

final valley
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i just ran into one of the "traditional" cheaters who just spawn in 100000000000 troops in a meta settings game so 🤷‍♂️