#In zombies mode, once all enemy players are dead; the zombies should lose their troop bonus

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crystal glacier
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Currently, in zombies mode, the zombies cannot be defeated untill all but one player is eliminated.
Likewise, once one player is left, the game doesn't end until the zombies are defeated.
The problem with this though, is the end game becomes a slog.
As it is now, zombies must always outnumber the players. If players have more total troops than zombies, there is a 33% chance for zombies to start their turn with an absurdly huge wave, however many troops it take for zombies to outnumber. This can easily result in them drafting 300+ troops. This is fun when there's competition, but his doesn't make sense after players have been defeated and just makes ending the game grindy and frusterating as hell.
The only way to end the game and get the rewards is to attrition them until you get a large stack, and then wipe them out in a single turn. And if the turn timer is short? Well you're screwed!

This is not fun. If you have to beat the zombies to finish the game, the zombies should should be easy to wipe up once the game is basically over.

summer aurora
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I guess this sort of just depends on your outlook. IMO the whole point is that its an alternate win condition. If you can't beat the zombies why would you get the win in your stats?

TBH if you know how to play zombies, and you are playing progressive, its not that big of a deal to clean them up. You just slowly build a wall outwards every turn and it should take less than 10 minutes to clean them up (and that's if you start weak. If sets are big it should take you just a few rounds.

You also already have the rank points for beating your human opponents so even if you didn't want to clean up the zombies you don't have to.

velvet talon
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And for fixed?

shy palm
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Well I disagree. The whole point of zombies is to add an extra level of struggle and to test weaknesses in defenses. If the zombies were easy or quick to dispatch after other players have been eliminated what is the point of playing Zombies in the first place?

It may as well have just been a normal FFA game with a bot at that point.

I would recommend playing Zombies with Progressive cards, if you want to speed up the zombies clean up. Either way you need to start out slow with your expansion. You will be able to snowball it more with Progressive.

Remember zombies don't attack a territory unless they have around twice as many troops to attack it with.

summer aurora
# velvet talon And for fixed?

There’s really not any good fixed zombie settings IMO. Making kills in fixed is already almost never worth it. Hitting zombies and then a player to make a kill is just another level of not worth it. And you can never come back from a bad spawn if the other players are decent. But to be clear, it is possible to clean up the zombies in fixed, you use the same method as progressive, it’s just going to take a little longer and you have to know what you’re doing or you end up with the zombies getting a massive wave as OP said

thorn gale
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Maybe fixed zombies is a higher skill level requirement than we've seen but not actively used because "too difficult" lol

crystal glacier
summer aurora
# crystal glacier but the point of my post is that "slowly build a wall out" doesn't work. Zombies...

This is just not true. By the time you have even close to the same amount of troops the zombies have you should be able to kill them easily. You will usually lose less than 50% of your troops when hitting zombies (its usually closer to 25%) so it should never reach the point where they are exploding. The building out of the wall allows you to take territories in chunks rather than the whole map at once so you can do it even on mobile

thorn gale
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So you really can only do so by doing it with big continents effectively (and hitting stacks enough that you lower your own troops without weakening your own defences)

summer aurora
thorn gale
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I tend to weaken along the walls a bit personally - that said I haven't done fixed zombies in quite a while

summer aurora
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@crystal glacier I could make a video demonstrating the method if that would be helpful?

crystal glacier