Tips for a newbie cowboy 🤠

[crystal folio]

Actually I just do the quests and build some items, so I play randomly.
I need general and important tips about the game.
And thanks.

[tropic hound]

Keep doing quests , do events daily , upgrade workbenches , do canyon trials

In short , EVERYTHING you can

You will grow slowly

[marsh pollen]

Never skip your daily events
Spend silver on blue prints Only or raids in the future but never use it on energy
Focus on finishing your stable to get a horse it helps a ton

Once getting raided by bandits after filling up the rage bar try to locate them asap and always fight from the sides never go in the middle of the group and use ur best armor and gear

Try to upgrade your workbenches specially weapon, repair table and dismantle they help a ton

Upgrade your base walls at least to pine walls so bandits take much more time to break through

do canyon trails and stone outpost they help a bit when ur starting

Use ur state points on spirit points to avoid getting attacked in zones

Do your daily quests gives good amount of silver and gear

Try and reach lvl 10 in the battle pass for free vip

[warped belfry]

Eat food, don't die

[trim prawn]

SKIP daily events especially if you’re lower tier player. Doing them will only result in filling bandits anger meter, meaning they’ll come to your ranch amd ransacked it and steal all your valuables. And when you are farming be careful of any potential “bandit-raid filler” and just crouch when you are near them and walk normal when they arent around.

This should be anyone’s new tactic until 7.9 update.

Or taking a break until then.

Maybe that will make devs think next time they introduce such useless feature.

[tropic hound]

And here you go again with bad stuff

Devs did just the right thing with that feature

You wanted raids to be a joke forever ?

Now we must brainstorm for ways to tackle them

[trim prawn]

That’s just your opinion with which i disagree.

If you thought that prevoius raids were a joke, you should take off your clothes and use your fists

[vale crest]

Number one tip is avoiding buying energy with coins if u dont want to spend money, try having the patience of waiting when traveling the locations and only spend your energy if u have lets say a daily event with 20 mins left

[trim prawn]

I guarantee you’d achive multiple heroic death achievement every fee days.

[tropic hound]

Bro , 895 health bandits ? Are you kidding me man ? Just stay silent if you can't agree to me

[vale crest]

but make sure u always have below 100 energy so u can constantly recharge

[marsh pollen]

Avoiding raids and skipping events what kind of tip is that 💀
It's a part of the game and can't be avoided how r u going to get resources to complete ur buildings and weapons

[tropic hound]

Don't explain , he just has negative words for the game

My tip is to find a way to tackle raids ... the more you do , the easier you will find ways to defend

You just can't avoid raids

No matter what

[trim prawn]

I’m not your bro. Don’t silence me if you don’t like my stance. Rather provide an argumentative response than just acting like a crybaby. Its childish, cowboy!

[tropic hound]

Everyone in the server are like my friends .

[trim prawn]

What is the use of collecting resources only to loose them in a raid?!

[tropic hound]

And your opinion isn't argumentative either ... and you prefer to be rude as well , like a crybaby too

There are many ways to tackle it

[marsh pollen]

Fr having no idea about how to defend in a raid will just make it worse

[tropic hound]

True

[tropic hound]

Just find a way to tackle it , there are many

If you are lazy , not our fault

[trim prawn]

What is s tackle?!

[tropic hound]

Face the challenge

[marsh pollen]

I didn't loose a log since I started and I'm at my 20 raid I think it's not that hard if u know what u doing and got a real good base with good walls

[tropic hound]

I congratulate you

i just use my hut

[trim prawn]

Au contraire my friend. The bloke posting a question got an advice how I see fits current issue. Which you dont like. And now you crybabying on me.

[tropic hound]

Ye ye ... laugh on it

[trim prawn]

Define good walls.

[tropic hound]

My opinion is more solid than yours

[tropic hound]

Really ?

Are you even playing the game ?

[trim prawn]

Again, crybabying without argumentng your words.

[tropic hound]

You don't argument yours either

And you are rude too

[marsh pollen]

Outside walls r pine and the core is a mix between T2 and T3 not that great but it does the job

[trim prawn]

I have basalt walls, double rows. They break through both.

[tropic hound]

Mine are full straw walls , and never lost my valuables

[trim prawn]

And they start wrecking my interior

[trim prawn]

It’s not a lie if you believe it 🤣

[tropic hound]

I have a hut to store my valubles

They never attack it

They just go to main house

So they steal corn and stone

[marsh pollen]

Yeah u need to defend u can't reach a state where u just sit there and they can't break in lol

Mine r 1000 HP so far I'm defending with a T4 and I'm still doing it

[trim prawn]

Unfortunately i cant afford a hut since double walls, full fields, all benches and storages and projects take all the space available.

[tropic hound]

I understand that

I really argued before ... but seriously man ... you really want raids like before ? Just 895 health ? Let's talk calmly

[marsh pollen]

Try to do the grinding when the rage bar is already full that how I avoid getting daily raids and instead I get 1 every 2 days or something

[tropic hound]

@trim prawn Look at my layout

[trim prawn]

I dont mind bandits being stronger. But i dont see logic in them being diggers den strong.

[marsh pollen]

I was against it at first but actually ye I kinda do cause getting robbed after a while is something u can't escape like me as an example they get almost 100+ HP every time
I'll reach a state where they defeat me and steal something it's just a matter oftime
Cause the problem is they don't Stop getting more HP
If they stay at T4 I'll be chilling

[tropic hound]

You should be 100% raided at some point . Winning each time isn't right

[tropic hound]

True ... they must keep getting stronger till they smash you

[marsh pollen]

Yeah that the problem getting loot stolen should be a result of
U dying ( failing to defend) or ur walls are too weak

But getting stolen after fighting with your best loot shouldn't be a thing
Max 1000 HP for t4
Max 1500 for t5
And more for T6 players
It should be like this at least

[trim prawn]

If you have armor/weapon that suits your level i dont see a problem in winning everytime. Its my turf they are on i should have the home advantage.

In this regard, why dont the devs make the special events, bandits outpost snd daily quest unbeatable?

You should be able to win everytime, right? 🙃

[tropic hound]

Daily quest and outposts are different thing

Raids should be a threat

Why are they called raids ?

For you to always win ?

Why don't see my perspective ?

[marsh pollen]

Nah u can fail events in lvl 80 lvl 100 events easily if u played bad or did a mistake

[tropic hound]

True

[trim prawn]

You can hardly fail unless the timer runs out.

[tropic hound]

Old roads can go bad sometimes

Hard ones

[marsh pollen]

Watch someone do lvl 100 old road it's a nightmare

[tropic hound]

I did it , yeah ... nightmare

[trim prawn]

And it is unrealistic to win every quest/event/outpost.

It is not my logic, im just trying to show how you see it.

But not on raids, raids should just be too hard to pass.

For me personally old road is a joke

The train attack being the hardest and is still a joke.

[tropic hound]

Quests/events/outposts are loot sources , and raids are loot drainers ... raids should be sometimes unbeatable

[trim prawn]

Hope they do something and in the future updates make it unbeatable. Hope t7 or 8 for t6 players

That would be a realistic improvement

[marsh pollen]

It's doesn't really bother anyone like t2-t3 players r chilling
Even t5 players r going to defend easily
It's the T4 guys like me who's suffering

[trim prawn]

So should events/quests and outpost since they are different sides of the same coin.

[trim prawn]

This is not quite true, i think all lvls are affected!

[tropic hound]

Actually , yeah ! You have a point

It gets boring to always win

Don't you think ?

[marsh pollen]

The more raids u do the more powerful they get
That's the main problem make a limit for that and everything is going to be alright

[crystal folio]

I didn't expect my post turn into place for arguing lol

[trim prawn]

Not if you are up to the task it aint

[tropic hound]

Contradictory opinions are like gasoline and matchsticks

[crystal folio]

Lol

[trim prawn]

Au contraire. Exchanging views on the matter.

[tropic hound]

Sometimes your preparations have to be pierced

[trim prawn]

They intend to in the next update, but i have a feeling they’ll just put some cosmetic patches over it and call it sn improvement. They can prove me wrong though.

[trim prawn]

Im always alert, thus they shouldn’t be able to defeat me!

[marsh pollen]

Speaking of having to loose raids at some point
That won't do anything cause loosing make them drop by 1 lvl it doesn't reset them to day 0 or something so that means u can get robbed up to 4-6 times before they become easy again 🙂

[marsh pollen]

I suggested something before and the mode said he suggested it , my suggestion might change everything to the best

[tropic hound]

There are various ways to hide valuables

[tropic hound]

Alert , but till when ? You must loose sometimes

[trim prawn]

Two safes aint enough!

[trim prawn]

I hope gods hear you out, devs wont 🤣

[marsh pollen]

Nah u can't avoid them for ever and hide your stuff that's a trick

It's not how devs intended it to be

[tropic hound]

You can bring some stuff to rocky pass too , build a storage in mountain tribe

[marsh pollen]

What about storages?

[tropic hound]

I know , but my hut kinda pierces devs's intentions ... never failed me

[marsh pollen]

If u actually made you base slightly bigger they will come from that corner One day and break the walls 🙂

[trim prawn]

This can’t happen. If i would be reckless and i’d drink a box of whiskey then id just give it a rest. But no, i do everything as supposed, but bandits somehow manifest their godly nature. Come on, aint realistic

[marsh pollen]

Devs never intended to make u loose or at least that what I heard cause who the h want to get robbed every week and loose 2 weeks of grinding everytime

[tropic hound]

Nah , i won't

[trim prawn]

Rockypass? Risking to potentially loose it with update. Pass.

Northern storage is intend to use for farming in that area, and even that aint of decent use, since its full after a raid or two.

[tropic hound]

You will do that temporarily

After the raid you will bring them back

When i said they will stay forever ?

[marsh pollen]

Trust me I'm 1000% sure u hate the raid system now
They tried to make it a bit difficult but they broke it
I think the only thing that making u silent about the whole raid idea is because ur doing the hut trick without it u will have to defend, upgrade ur base and suffer 💀

[marsh pollen]

Not a solution , loosing will drop there HP slightly then they will reach that HP after 1-2 more raids

[tropic hound]

I expected you would say that sooner or later ... but the hut trick made me realise that it's just a matter of strategize/elaborate

And no , i won't ever hate the raid system

[trim prawn]

Waste of energy, waste of time!

If this would be my employment i would quit it in a few hours, not days. Dont expect me to play it.

[tropic hound]

Lazy

[marsh pollen]

U should try playing against T4 with a T4 gun it's definitely about strategy ye but beeing smart doesn't give u more damage in this case 😔

[tropic hound]

Yeah , i know

[marsh pollen]

Atm I'm in a position where I can't get more powerful weapons cause I'm lvl 60 and cabt access the areas after the bridge so it's really a struggle having to fight with that everyday that what I was implementing

But it is what it is maybe the devs will do something

[marsh pollen]

Most old players passed this nightmare cause raids were easy before that why no one is complaining and it's only me and some ppl that affected

[tropic hound]

You don't seem ready for south either

[trim prawn]

I would hardly agree it has anything to do with lazyness.

On contrary, everything this game contains, its hard to do it all, it just takes too much time!

And waste time on useless „features“ is just not an option.

[tropic hound]

Yeah , Westland is a slow game

But slow progress is more satisfing

[marsh pollen]

It's not about if I'm ready or not it's about not having access to T4 to make progress and since I can't get it from no where I have to lvl up 15 time or something just to get there which means like another 30-40 raids

I'm planning of buying some blue PB but there is no way to make them so 💀

[tropic hound]

I really don't know how i managed to wait till getting level 80 events and bounties before fixing bridge

[crystal folio]

My post turned to chatting room XD

[tropic hound]

Make a new post

[crystal folio]

Nah I haven't problem.

[tropic hound]

Any chance you could delete this one ?

[crystal folio]

Delete what?

[tropic hound]

The post

Or you can't ?

[crystal folio]

Yes it seems I can't
But I haven't problem with that anyway.

[tropic hound]

Okay then

Bye for now

Gotta go

[crystal folio]

[crystal folio]

What lvl are you? Do you mind to share a pic of your best gear?

[marsh pollen]

Lvl 64
I use green cowboy tier 4 armor
With T4 common henry or colt Walker
But it's 70% about base and the rest is about how u preform and ur gear but till now I'm still surviving

My weapon could get much better like a rare T4 would be nice but I don't have a lvl 4 workbenche to craft is sadly

[crystal folio]

LOL.
No wonder you talk like that.
What untill you’re becoming t4.
Suddenly you get t5 muggers and you’ll come join the club

[tropic hound]

Personally i always secure my loots in a hut

And the bandits just come and steal the trash left in main house

Easy

[marsh pollen]

It takes me 7 hits to kill someone and mine r mix between T4 and t5 sometimes

If u got a good base with walls nothing can go through

T4 just complain daily with T1 walls and expect to win

If u focus on ur base from day 1 and think about strategies to defend and use windows correctly and fix your mistakes a 10 K bandit won't rob u

1500 health bandits and they get +300 HP every time and I'm still wining with a t4

This should be an achievement 😂

[crystal folio]

Interesting, you just said before they are t4.
If you don’t mind, share with us the next time you’re being raided.
Maybe you actually figured it out.

My walls are all t3 and some t4.
With my t5 clothes and my strongest weapon they got close to winning.
And it was just the 2nd or 3rd time being raided since update.

[marsh pollen]

I use buildings to cover up the sides also Windows make them confused cause they think they can reach through with there melee another thing pet make them distracted from breaking walls

[marsh pollen]

What's your lvl

[crystal folio]

I‘m lvl 90

It sounds like my walls are way stronger than yours, my gear definitely is, my weapons as well.

But you say that the bandits are the same, so it’s really impressive, that’s why I’d love for you to share with us a screenrecording of the next raid.
Maybe I can learn something from you

[marsh pollen]

Mine r a mix of t 3 and T4 I don't get t5 we can't compare ourselves and a lvl 90 like u should have a rare t5 to defend with a full blue set that what all lvl 90-100 r doing also if ur not using windows there is a chance that u might die because of the snipers

Also it's very easy for me to defend cause I got buildings to the left and right

So I defend front and back only

And they don't have that much dynamite anyways so there is no way of comparing u with me

I'm 63 not 90

My base was built to avoid getting robbed and I'm adding and improving stuff every time I didn't just build it randomly

[vale crest]

@marsh pollen can u show us your base?

[vale crest]

impressive gj

[marsh pollen]

Buildings help a ton it doesn't matter where they come from I always know the fight is going to be in the front or the back

Saves me recourses too

[marsh pollen]

Ty 🔥

[crystal folio]

At least you admitted that you’re not getting T5.
Lvl 90 has nothing to do with having t5.
Most lvl 80 - 100 are t4.
No wonder you feel like a hero by defending against t3/t4

If I’d be getting t3 - t4 bandits I’d take a toothpick and a fork to defend myself

[marsh pollen]

Im lvl 60 there is no way I get t5 the game won't let the happen even if I tried but they still got a lot of HP remember my health is only 950 and I got a T4 dealing 200 damage per hit
T5 ppl r always complaining no matter what the devs do u guys want 100 HP t5 or something?

U get stronger they get better gear and more health I don't know what's the problem here if u had good gear it will be easier for u end of the story

[marsh pollen]

Most lvl 80 r T4 not 100 if ur 100-90 and still defending with T4 then you r the problem lol

[vale crest]

when do you get tier 5 enemies?

[crystal folio]

I give up

You’re right @marsh pollen

[crystal folio]

I got them from lvl 88

By raids

[marsh pollen]

I swear to go I never seen a negative community in gaming like this all they do is complain when they r supposed to be X10 times stronger at that lvl

[vale crest]

Oh boi im not ready for that

gotta farm up

lvl 92

[crystal folio]

You’re right

[marsh pollen]

Rare T4 or even rare t5 if u got ur hands on that can help u

[crystal folio]

@marsh pollen is our new expert here.
He’s been playing for at least 2 weeks, so he knows all the tips and tricks

[vale crest]

Ye working on lvl 5 gunsbench, got lucky with winchester bp

[marsh pollen]

No I'm just not a cry baby I fight and stop complaining

[marsh pollen]

Very nice

[marsh pollen]

If u can't defend wait till the next update maybe there will be an update where u can hide in the basement and avoid raids lol

[vale crest]

Didnt they say they will nerf the enemies of the raids?

Or have they already done that

[crystal folio]

„Bandits anger lvl will be adjusted accordingly…“
They’ll do it in „future updates“
Whatever that means and whenever that will be…

[vale crest]

gotcha'

[marsh pollen]

I suggested
That if u kill a lvl 35 areas bandit as an example it will raise more then killing a lvl 10 area bandit
Maybe they will do it like that
I also suggested raids to be the same tier as u or if that's not possible they can make a cap for bandits health

[trim prawn]

Wouldnt that make higher tier playaz get more stash maps?

[marsh pollen]

They already do lol I get a raid doing 3-4 mine runs 😂

I was thinking it will help low lvl players stay out of danger a bit

[trim prawn]

Then try farming non-mine areas, youll fill bandit meter in a week if u lucky enough

[trim prawn]

Oh it will, but loosing on stsh is not fair.

[marsh pollen]

No I don't really try to avoid raids I'm just saying some ppl like to rest between raids but not to stop making progress u get my idea ?

[trim prawn]

No i dont. Raid meter should be equally fillable, no matter the player tier. Only matter how many bandits you kill, and how much does the latter fill the meter. Destroyer fills meter more than raider for example. And both are among enemies whether u t1 or t6.

The real issue here is bandits power, which from last update is totally out of hand.

It is true the prevoius raids were extremely easy, but to broke the system as they did. Simply inexcusable.

They need to correct this. They should do it yesterday.

[marsh pollen]

Yeah I bandits health cap can help

But it's needs some serious thinking so they don't do something even worse then what we have atm

[trim prawn]

We can hope it turns out in our favor. If not we can always bid farewell to the game (perhaps even quit).

[tropic hound]

If someone can give up on this game so easily , it means he never truly liked it

[paper prism]

Damn!! Shale walls here... I'm so f**ked.. 😂😂

[tropic hound]

Personally i use a hut

Never failed me

[marsh pollen]

It's actually better to have shale outside
And basalt and T4 in the core

That why they can't break in

But the base walls r just to slow them anyways 😂 with a good weapon u can survive easily

[paper prism]

Hmm... The last time they broke 2 layers of shale walls... I've got Smith carbine, Remington and Beretta... 😔

[marsh pollen]

Are u lvl 90 or something?

[paper prism]

I was level 74... Sadly after the last raid last Friday I reset my progress 😕 now I'm level 57... Now I can make better decisions...

[sullen carbon]

Just saying that you can get items back

From bandit stashs

[paper prism]

Yeah.. I can't even kill one bandit last raid, coz of low tier weapon.

Now I've got a better plan... I hope 😂 lol

[sullen carbon]

Remember push the progress not lvls

Lvls are deadly in this game

[paper prism]

That's part of my plans now... I've got level 3 workbenches and about four raids so far... I only attack bandits at the mines and try to mine within the 6hrs before raid starts...

I'm still trying to get a better base plan to prevent bandits from getting to my stash...

[marsh pollen]

T5 bandits is something u can't escape from even avoiding killing bandits will lead to them eventually
I suggest u focus on your base and use windows to ur advantage as much as u can
T5 bandits r week against rares T4 and t5 ones anything else is just like using a bow

[solemn ridge]

Don't get it honestly ... I'm T6 now, bandits are 2300 hp and to kill them it's still piece of cake as before + loot from their stash even not being greatest is still ok considering investment in it = few shots with schofield or t5 sabre whatever I just have handy

And with my base design even if I miss them by mistake they usually just break walls, without stealing anything

[marsh pollen]

Raids now r a t4-t3 players problem

Cause they get maxed before u even reach lvl 70

T6-t5 players don't suffer that much cause they can deal with them easily

[solemn ridge]

I recall when I was about T3-4 I suffered a lot in different zones, so looks like game balance issue around those levels, I play for about a year now. What helped me was to upgrade benches and get better equipment + hit and run when I faced too strong enemies. If the issue is now raids, windows in the base help. And you need only 2 layers of walls based on my experience which they rarely breached in my case.
https://discord.com/channels/464433442134687746/1180567294905163837 my base design

[marsh pollen]

They changed raiders a lot
They can actually break almost anything specially T5 ones
I'm lvl 70 and I get maxed t5 with 2300 HP every time which is insane
I'm using a Lemat a lvl 3 bp one and it's doing the job for now but I still loose some items sometimes I even have 4-3 layers of shale walls from every side it's there health and damage that's the main problem
Dealing almost 300 a hit when I'm wearing T4 armor and it takes like 6-7 hits to kill one of them

[solemn ridge]

That's insane, I have the same bandits. Check my base design, in my case they often keep destroying those "good for nothing" walls in the corners so gives you time to deal with them.

[marsh pollen]

Yeah really nice but after u pass t5 Even 2 layers of shale can do cause u got good weapons to fight then but in my case it's kill as much as u can before they reach ur core

[solemn ridge]

What I observed good base design can help a lot. After the update I missed them twice and they just broke outer layers around and did not get in. Once they took me fabric rolls because my storage was full.

Great change now s you can flip two parts between, not like destroy all and rebuild as before, which makes experimenting with design of the base much easier.

[marsh pollen]

I actually got a really good base design cause I only defend the front or the back I use buildings to cover up the sides
But still they menage to get in

I still need to complete 2 buildings and I'll be done

I'll send a video here later if u want to check it out

Not home ATM I'm at dried forest

[solemn ridge]

That's the best, saves a lot of troubles with raids. Try upgrading walls inside out, stronger in, weaker out. Saw tendency of breaking lower lvl walls more often. Try to change something on the place they got in, barb wire, anything.
Sure, if you post I'll check it.

[marsh pollen]

Btw I don't have a stable I just got it today
I'll go full T2 now with the help of the horse

I got 200 sugar

[solemn ridge]

In my opinion you are wasting space for corridors without much practical use. Stables, pet house, barn, chickencoop all can be directly on the edge without any corridor being them. I'm putting just one wall behind them from one simple reason that bandits are breaking it but can not pass through them so they just move around. And you can shout them from inside of them once they break the outside wall or you can make it more expensive and put windows. Another thing that comes to my mind is that you are not using full honeycomb 1x1. In my case they break outside and in between walls and continue next instead of deeper. That might be difference in your case worth exploring. I'm using full wall for outside and in between, and every second- third one in the inner layer I use windows. This helped me in times I was low lvl. Now I just go out and kill them but before I used to shoot them from inside. Also I see no free space for all 8 fields, you will need them.

[marsh pollen]

I already got space for 5 fields so far

Also I'm using windows all my outside walls and inner ones got at least one window coverings each side

[marsh pollen]

For the Honey comb design I don't really like it
Also I'm doing good when it comes to defending my only problems now r my armor and I have to upgrade the weapons I use to defend

I didn't delete the walls behind the buildings cause I use that to move around the outside walls and to interact with the buildings

I have to get as much cover as possible cause u can go outside and move around but me as a T4 against t5 I'll prefer to stay hidden

Cause they do a lot of damage

[paper prism]

Is it possible to have storage between buildings, like arranging the buildings to form an enclosed area where one can have storage and leave the workbenches outside....

That way you can stay safely in the enclosed area and not attack the bandits at all..

[dark cloud]

Yes can set objects anywhere, and floors and walls

[modest cairn]

U just got your stable?