Reappearing defenders during Alliance raids.

[oak cedar]

Today we cleared an Alliance's defenders on a revenge raid and within 20 minutes they were all back up. To recover the rest of our loot one of us had to go kill them all again.

Apparently this is a recurring bug. Why not fix it?

[oak cedar]

Here is the complete attack.

And ANOTHER bug, this one I haven't seen before......we had over 18000 Whiskey, why is it not in our Saloon? Why is it not in the loot list?

Did they drink it all?

No, with only 12 players that is impossible.

Unless of course someone else raided while we were waiting to re-kill everything.....LET'S FIND OUT!

[slim tide]

By the looks of it somebody else also raided or counter raided them, and thus finished their raid before u and so getting the better loot Arch... As u can see u lost 40 gold as well, and only retrieved 20 on counter raid

[oak cedar]

Yes, that seems reasonable

The Lake of Whiskey will make the rounds of the alliances then....

[slim tide]

I know with that specific alliance they do 2-3 raids on each other, so the alliance getting the revenge first and does it quickest normally gets best loot

[slim tide]

Oh for sure, we at one stage raided 40k whiskey i think it was, and its making the rounds with all alliances in league 3

[oak cedar]

All the lazy folks boosting their contribution stats the easy way.....

[slim tide]

Hahaha, or they just very thirsty

[oak cedar]

Imagine the wagon train needed to haul 40k Whiskey.....

[slim tide]

Sheesh

But on the guard spawning, that's a big issue or bug at the moment

[oak cedar]

I understand the game server takes a snapshot of the base when the raid starts, and we play against that. Why it resets instead of updating for each sequential attack.....is a vexing mystery. With all the money we spend you'd think they'd be nice enough to fix it, or implement a full refund for each attacker's gear. They have the data.

[worldly wolf]

Interesting. Kingsdown has (had?) a level 2 mine. You should have stolen 40 gold.

[ancient cloak]

Yes hm 🤔

[oak cedar]

Like UKJ said before.....someone must have raided them between the sometime around 15:00 when Kingsdown raided us, and shortly after 19:00 when our Boss cleared them out the first time.

[worldly wolf]

To clarify, was not talking about raid timing. Unless changed this update, mine production determins minimum gold stolen.

[oak cedar]

Right, the raided alliance goes into gold deficit until production pays off the debt until they're in the black again.

[worldly wolf]

Nothing to do with gold debt either.

[oak cedar]

Unless one can delete the building when going out raiding...

[worldly wolf]

Could be a graphical glitch with GR chat, which is famous for that. Ex showing 20 gold stolen when if added up 40 gold was distributed.

[oak cedar]

A few raids before Kingsdown we also got only 18 Gold

[worldly wolf]

Wonder if they changed the rules. Kings’ base gold production was 40 gold so that’s the minimum stolen. You guys should have gotten that, not 20. So either glitch or rule change.

[oak cedar]

I think I only picked up 1 nugget after Kingsdown.....there are eleven of us

[worldly wolf]

Did you guys happen to compare gold collected? We do, and often find that what Gr chat shows is different than actual distribution.

[oak cedar]

I'll ask

[worldly wolf]

Yeah ok. Just something. To consider for the future.

[oak cedar]

Basic accounting in the year 2023. The chocolate ration will be increased from 50 grams to 30 grams.

[ancient flower]

This is a known bug, unfortunately we don't have the way to reproduce it at the moment. So there is no fix right now. Currently I can suggest you to check the tooltip of the alliance you attack. When everyone are dead the small cowboy heads must be greyed.

[oak cedar]

Yes, that is also the best way to find out the dead have risen and walk amongst the living again.

At least reimburse jpvuko his armour, weapon and healing potions.

We can wait a week or two while the bug gets fixed, we don't need more "updates".

[tacit monolith]

We had a funny situation few weeks ago. We received -7 (munus seven) Gold nuggets after counterarrack. I don't know wheter it is still a problem or not, but that wa interesting.

[oak cedar]

Perhaps you raided an alliance that was already in Gold-debt....

The whole system of alliance raids is unbalanced and should be revised and fixed, quickly.

It is the pinnacle of the game, so far. Unless some wisdom is permitted to flourish then this game will become a p2w wasteland and die on the vine, just like so many others.

Perhaps this is already known and accepted.

[ancient flower]

It's not designed that way. This situation is a bug for sure.

[oak cedar]

Well, thank you Developers for the reimbursement.

[merry steppe]

This happens all the time

[misty moat]

Nope we stole them all 😉