#Gameplay chat
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You can get their skill to ignore some armor
On other animals
T4 and T5 animals have a second skill
Mhmmm, right
I imagine second skill is randomized
And first skill always the same?
First is always the same, can have different value depending on the rarity
Second is random
See?
The second can also have different value depending on the rarity
So you're really aiming for rare t5 at this point
Nope
t4 so it's cheaper?
I personally aim for one with a second good skill
Like eating less? XD
T4 and t5 almost always come with 0 fertility unless you breed from lower tier
I swear if bears eat that much Thrift might actually prove useful
Rare?
Nope
Huh
The skill was normal, the bear uncommon
I'm trying to get a tough skin or bleeding as second skill for the bear
Since both effects are great for gold rush
There is a skill that allows them to heal faster at the houe
House
Mhmmm
Still probably gonna go with one bear and call it a day. I really cba to go with more than that. Screw alligator, I'm not maxing every bait
Calling it Pooh the Winnie and dabbing on all the bandits
Wonder what I'd get first
T5 bait or max animal pens
Currently on a new toon
I swear I leveled up way too fast compared to my first character?
Started playing yesterday and I'm lvl 35 without using VIP. Only working on my t2 workbenches
Kinda normal, until 45-50 is pretty fast
I'll end up fighting t3 enemies with spiked club idk how to feel about this
There was a small update earlier.. what's it for?
Just don't open the north too soon
I made that mistake, north is closed until I'm T5 š
Gonna get my upgrade mats from events and stick with that
I use horse energy 
Didn't saw about the small update today
Oh no im scared of what may be adjusted or added

What's the small update for?
I don't have horse ._.
Three words, hit and run
Possible a bug fix
Since there is no patch note for it
Take the yellow glycerol
No like I just started again all I got is one horsehoe
So what do you do when the tool bench is upgrading and you can't go farm anywhere
Pine log, rock and done, you have a tool to farm
Well, guess I do. I should go farm leather at lake
Yes
What is breeding roaster
And how do i eat it or what
To do
You need a chicken coop building
you get it in one of the train events (can't remember which one)
you put it in the chicken coop (upgrade tab)

Anf you use the breeding rooster to either build it or upgrade it
Just a question about the game mechanics, I was following this game on FB and saw many intresting updates and gave it a try, i liked this farming chicken and cow update, but why there are so many negative comments from the vetran players, its strange to see this many dissapproval on almost all recent post of this game
Why the community is not liking the ideas of devsš¤
Why they cant find a common ground, is the community too much demanding, or the devs dont really take in consideration the opinion of players about the game
We really dont know whats going on, almost all the veterans dislike the new update maybe ask @glacial tangle for his opinion he might know why it is so
Or jane they both have been playing for a very long while
Hope they answer it
You see before that
We used to get tender meat from elder animals
And was alot
And we had only 1 garden bed to plant things
We did not received the seeds back after planting
But we always got them farming
For exemplo, if I harvest 100 hemp, I would also get 100 seed and plant 100 more hemp, meaning I farmed 200 hemp in total
And it was only 5 hemp per cloth
Now that it limits our plantation to only 200 per area, and seeds are kinda rare, things got a little harder
SPecially the sheriff outfit maintance
That required hemp cloth rolls
1 cloth rolls is 5 cloth pieces
And since now 1 cloth went from 5 hemp to 20....you see ppl getting mad there
And about the food, tender meat was used to feed the animal very easily and make food to sustain your defense in alliance base
Was a cheap food to make and easy
And after the ranch update got a little harder to obtain, and the meal you would use it now requires filet
Which a little annoying to obtain prior to the cow shed
Like I said a few days ago, I try to balance my judgment rather then go full blindly on what affected only me
The game is perfect? No its not. And there is no such thing as perfect game, and there are alot to improve
There are things that I really think should change, but it's far from what I have seen going on
And yes, there were change that I didn't liked but learned to deal with it, and some just to accept
About the canyon, the Indian items had a few that were really strong, and like I said before
High lvl players could almost farm forever in canyon with minimal investment
But only until wave 18
After that the farm wasn't viable
They are balancing the game, and endgame players were hit hard
And to be fair, the "endgame maps" which are the swamps
my take on the problem is instead of farming and playing the game
we got pushed to rely on many buildings
(that on top of that need lot of space)
to supply the need of one resource
and sure these buildings are "optional"
but when the regular source of the resource is nerfed...
and nerfs were too suddent:
if changes were more.... gradually, would be easier to find a good balance
Are pretty bad to offer resource to justify farming it
Thankyou for the detail explanation and taking your time answer me, i understood many things from it, and i think the rest i will be able to understand slowly while progressing in game
I think the problem is game how game difficulty works, not that they didn't changed it gradualy
if you haven't unlocked swamp yet, the nerfs won't afect you too much
but if you have the swamp there will be problems there
Most complains are from players that needed a lot of t5
for their daily routine
Let's be real, yes we need alot, but alot of complain are too extreme
That's part of my point, for me the changes are barely noticeable
I'm getting way more cloth now than before :))
Alot of the complains are extreme, not what should be. That's why it's hard for the helio to know
What really is a issue and what is just drama
They try to reduce the gap between top endgame players and everyone else
Want to know a real issue the game have?
new players level way too fast
You could have any amount of chests you wanted in your ranch, no limit
Now it's just 14 without the paid ones
So older players have 40 chests while new ones are caped at 14
I would like to add just one thing, its not a MMO or a pvp area game, so why so much work being put on reducing the gap between vetran players and beginners, doesnt make any sense
If you are a hoarder doing massive farms, this is a gap you can't overcome
well
If you just farm what you need at the moment this is not a issue
there are competitive elements
i got that area unlocked and i think enemies are fine there
about the hemp change
the problem is going to be for players that didn't get the hemp seeds with the garden rework
mostly around gold
Gold rush, is a alliance related thing
It's the closest thing of a pvp we have
And that's one thing I truly belive should be reworked. There is alot of problem with alliance system
From what I saw on youtube the swamp seems to require more resources than you can get back only from there
oh sorry that was not my intention, i don't want to be far apart from newbies all the opposite i help people everytime i can
problem is not giving everyone a tool
is being forced to use it
I farm there with no issue, but in reality only 1 map is truly worth, 1 is arguable and 1 is really bad
yep, problem is not getting enough resources back and i can support that
until the changes you could get a lot of gold from cannyon leaderboard, but the old system had a huge flaw, the longer you stay in top the more free things you get and harder it gets for others to compete with you for the top
that's why i dont like to go there
Bayou to farm healing items is good
that's why I haven't even unlocked that

the only downside is that it seems I can't get pumpking seeds outside events
forget t5 animals, I'm still on t3 for bear
South I get them in cromite mine chests
I mean events like easter and battlepass, not daily events
oh so I can still get them south, just been unlucky, good to know
for me cypress swale needs to be bigger and have more in-zone events or chest
that would totally fix it for me

Like I said, cypress swale is arguable, because at south you can get easy
And bayou is good for healing items
good
remember when they added the miner a few months before alliances and he wanted lots of resources for 1 gold?
I think the swamp is the same, resource burner for endgame players with a few benefits
Not gonna lie if they add seasons lile Last day and frost born i think their positive reviews gonna sky rocket
Well done, partner!š
Its one thing the people look most forward to in survival game
we're getting a battlepass from time to time already
And it make good money to devs also
They do for events, but the reward are kinda meeeh
but the ldoe seasons are the worst invention ever
In the past the reward were truly good, now its just meeh at best
so much temporary content you'll probably never see again
Well meh wont work, u gotta make it "hmm nice",
Thats just my opinion

like the lion and polar bear, they are just skins with lots of extra steps
And this game also lacks a zone where people can farm and get loots, like u get pendants or tickets to clear the zone and then after few rounds u share it for a loot box that drops good loot
well, that just got closed this update to be reworked
basicaly the entire games was reworked, that cave was one of the few old things needing a rework
No i ve been following this game on yt and fb and i think that zone was dead zone, no player use to farm it as it did not drop good loot
what it droped was good before game reworks
I could be wrong thou, you clear it to me please
but it was left untouched after those reworks and no longer good
Oh ok
and now they're finally reworking it
Thats nice to hear
the horse is probably the last thing left almost untouched since release
They should add horse skins XD
I'd like to be horse breeding like with pets, but in the stables from the town and just pay the horse guy from town to breed
Horse skins would work rather easily
There's already a handful of different palettes
Considering overall game design, one thing I appreciated about the game in the past is that a player didnāt have to participate in all aspects of the game and could reach the same results by pursing different paths. Someone could not do trials at all and get most things trials offered from other areas, and vice versa, or not do the daily events at all. In my limited perspective, the game has shifted toward a design where a player should explore all game aspects and will be hampered if they donāt. Changes in game design and architecture are touchy and tough to do well without alienating part of the player base.
Can i eat it
Where is cow i didn't see one?
You get a cow bell or a roaster at the train attack, not both at the same time
If you consider the possibility of balancing to help new players now to have a better "progression" in detriment of the veteran ones, and after a few months you balance the "veteran content" to make better for them
You will also help the new players that have now progressed to that content

But it can be a "double edge" way to balance things, since veteran players can be angry and quit. Or even lost trust on the company
Don't know if that's what they are trying to do, but let's be true, since they only announce things when it's already coming
until t5 you can still just take the plants from zones to craft cloth
The playerbase kinda stay in the dark
only for reliable t5 you really need the field
endgame was hit hard, everything else is balanced well
except level up xp, but that's another problem
In truth even when farming swamp I just use t4 armor and saber, so I don't spent too much of t5 resource on that
Only canyon and gold rush I use it
Like I said, it's something you can manage it
Makes me wonder what Helio revenue looks like. Did they find that end game players werenāt spending as much as the larger pool of new/mid players? Or did they have a core of old timers who will continue to spend no matter what the game changes? No theories, just musings.
@jagged flower mind if I send a dm?
regardless of revenue, focusing on veterans and ignoring new players is one of the best ways to kill a game
Yes helping new players is a way to extend the life of a game
But cutting down the old ones is a bit risky, at least I think
That's why I think(that's my copium) that their plan is to rebalance all the game
Starting on the bases of new players and going up as they progress
The more and more i play the game i start to agree more with afelpadito and what he said some changes were necessary but also to sudden and to drastic,like the cloth it went up so high to the point of where its actually a struggle to get rolls now
I get the devs are really working hard on this update and trying to balance the game my hopes are just they balance it that make the vets happy and the new players 
But Ksandr did say that they are busy to improve and add things so all we can do is wait and see what the future may bring
We can just wait
And when things comes up, make a proper feedback
And not just some nonsense drama
That you can't even identify about what is been criticize
Build some fields, upgrade them to lvl5, find hemp seeds.
1 field = 200 hemp seeds planted = 10 fiber (Tier 5) with just a few taps.
In theory you can produce up to Ć80 T5 fiber on your Ranch on a daily basis. This is crazy number of fiber.
While true you'd spend months or more to get these seeds
Seeds are now "infinite" but they're so rare to find
well, a completely infinite supply thats easy to get would make the game trivial
Maybe harvesting crops could occasionally give an extra seed or two
gotta put in the work for it
We have granted a pretty good number of seeds twice to the current high level players. So everyone can produce fiber from the very beginning.
Come on. They're already infinite 100% cashback. It's enough š
Mhmmmm
I personally enjoy the system
No more rooting around the south for hemp every time i want to build more clothes
In theory is the keyā¦.. I need what, another 60 or so fertilizerā¦.. assuming I get the event every single day, thatās at least 2 months.
Thatās a bs statement, and yāall know it
And that assumed I put pet house. Chicken coop, and cows on hold
Oh i forgot about the cow shed
Pay attention to the special places of interest on locations to get some extra seeds. Plus you always get some seeds after farming the locations. Usually I get at least 1-2 additional seeds after every visit to the Bayu.
Iāll go build it right now
Personally I just upgraded the fields to the level I required them, not all level 5 or other thing, which means since I produce alot corn I have 2 or 3 at lvl 1
The field increase was a help in this part
Good strategy.
But I also don't spend 5000 hemp cloth a day
But useless, as we are talking about bulk amounts of hemp cloth
I reduced certain activities since the change or changed some approach to do stuff
So it was possible to sustain a good stash
Those changes also came at a cost, but like I said, I can see the arguments of both sides, and yes something you can just adapt, others are alot harder
I suggest we get 10 fertilizer with the new upgrade, like we got chickens and cowbells 0:o
Last updates made the gameplay more varied. You have lots of different tasks to do.
Sorry, thatās just not really true. Much of the upgrades depends on is getting an item from a once a day max event.
Events which give pretty much trash aside for that one needed item
May I suggest everyone will donate 10$ to help us hire some additional staff? š
I have donated far more then that, you should be able to get at least 3 interns on my spend 0.9

Just a joke. Don't take it too serious. And thanks for your support!
If you put it that way i meannnn yeah thats pretty op
He forgets to mention how long it takes to get the needed fertilizerā¦.. unless you ādonateā
Last I checked all my new fields grow cornā¦..
But that aside, it's true we need alot more fertilize than other items, and the event got harder and the things you get there are not worth
I could see some fertilize be given in events
Like 4th july
The items are trash⦠hard I donāt care, but itās silly how many you need
1 or 2 fertilize or 10 seeds on those evenr
Would make a huge difference specifically for new players that still need to get their hand on the first batch of seeds to plant
Hell, itās easier to max your pet house one bowl at a time
Rome wasn't build in a day, i mean something is only fun if it gives of a challenge, if you don't like a challenge then that person is probably a couch patato
This is a long run but absolutely real. Currently I have 1 - t5 field, 1 - t4, 1 - t3, 2 - t2, 3 - t1. No donations. Only gameplay and gifts.
There can be a balance⦠they totally missed it
So stop the bs about 10 hemp rolls a day⦠and say 1 instead
New players don't need t5 clothes from the very beginning.
Wrong. Itās a fairly essential part of end game, yet is much harder then any other event item building
Bro what
You need what⦠15 chickens total⦠but 100+ fertilizer
Itās doesnāt make sense
Only need corn for additional food/ heals and alcohol
Yes, but I mean when they reach lvl 85 and start going for t5 workstation and specially backpack
Thatās niceā¦. But donāt mess up endgame so bad
They will not have a easy time. Tho shallow lake is there I'm aware
At least make it roughly equivalent to other end game structure that we need event items for
How does real life work? If irl is hard why make game easy
As the dev said
They are working on improving and adding
Your missing my point
No i dont think i am
Fields should not be 5-10x as hard as chickens coop, cowshed. Etc
When your maxed at one event item daily
Poeple are confusing the devs on what they want complaining about literally everything. While the devs think you are just causing drama
They should all be roughly equivalent in the amount of time/events needed
Their humans to not some kind of space alien with a computer brain
And right now itās totally unbalanced
Yes maybe that's true but still its shouldn't be to easy
Who said easy⦠I want balanced
Game mechanics are quite different. But the main idea of every part of the game is the same: easy to start, hard to master.
Again, not my point
I do think some changes are necessary but again if its to big and to fast poeple woulf complain again
It should not take so much longer then Other end game structures that require event items
Bro decide now, what is your point?
A little longer⦠fine
Why not?
10x longerā¦.
Not fine
Give one good reason
Most of the game parts takes months to be maxed. And I don't even mentioned Alliances š
I mean thats like peak self sustainable living if its not hard to get or takes a long time whats the achievement?
Exactly
And if you want to to take 10x longerā¦. The im sorry @young cradle , stop going āoh, you can get 10 rolls a day, whatās the big dealā
@vernal nebula
And that's cool I believe. It's never boring. You have goals.
No you canāt
Exactly bro,
You always have goals
I can also go to the moon in theory⦠but itās not reality
They areee!
No⦠they are not
They are achieve able with commitment they are
It would require me to just do that events for@months on end
That just shows you cant commit to one thing
And out everything else on hold
Well then adapt
Oh stuff it hunterrā¦. Your being stupid and insulting
Its not that hard
Survival game is about the process. It's not a single player game. As soon as you reach one goal you get another ones.
Am. I tho am i?
Just cold hard facts
Sorry, im gonna disagree. Itās a clear cash grab, from a game I expect more from
I support the game plenty, but itās over the top
The whole point of the survival is to have goals
Please no aggresive speech. Everyone has right on its personal opinion. It's ok to have your own.

I respond to provocation š¤·āāļø
I canāt wait to see what the next update tries to force me to buy
I was just saying that if you could commit to one thing the rest would be easier
Commuting to one thing for months at the expense of everything else is not fun⦠and why do we play this game ?
Nothing forces you, you need discipline to actually not spend your money like Joe Biden
Commiting*
No i did say it right
I should be able balance more then one project with a realistic completion time frame
Its called gramar
It's really not necessary. No one pushes you. Just enjoy the process.
Yeah exactly
I was correcting my spelling, look again
If everything is easy to get and free you would have value for it
Thatās the point. You guys made it not enjoyable
Because goals make you continue playing?
When I know i can get a few things done in the next month⦠great⦠when I know I will struggle to make/repair my t5 gear for monthsā¦..
Not great
Guys, I'd like to have some sleep but be sure that here won't be conflict. Ok?
The balance is off
And every long time player has been telling you guys as much
You could make it reasonable⦠but didnāt
Again, we are going in circles here⦠but yāall know the feedback your getting. Itās all over the place here
One question before you sleep
Or you can reply later
Sure.
Could you jusy fully explain the yt partner ship
Im looking into it
I did read all the rules and requirements
But i just want a full disclosure of the right and wrongs
Maybe they will give you fertilizerā¦.
Well done, partner!š
Thanks bot dude
Nah i actually want to grind that fertilizer
Easy enough
XD
Getting harder tho
Yeah, for yāall corn eaters 0.o
Thanks for the compliment
Big boys need hemp š
Lol. It's not that fast. PM me. I will tell you tomorrow. In a few words it's a program of support content creators with in-game stuff based on their activity and results.
A little businesses trip
Sorry šØš¦
Yeah yeah i knoe but i just wanted more info, and yeah id like to hear you get rest from all this drama

Ayo
Im starting to wonder what you use the hemp for
Clothesā¦. I swear
We will improve it soon. So wait for the announcement soon. Anyway you need 50 subsribers and 5 videos to join the program and get very first benefits.
Challenge excepted
Well then
Im going to bed aswell
See ya, partners. 
If saber is bp1 full durability i'd dismantle
Same goes for t4 colt
*Only if full durability
Why isn't there an obvious worthy pack to buy anywhere?
Is VIP the best without anything else being close?
There isnāt really, though randomly a good deal pops up
^ yep
there are some good packs out there
š
so what happended
Most of times there is one there in 1st chest, if not then... You can wait and see if you have a quest in deepwater areas
And then go back to cultist after completing said quest
I dont have t5 dismantle bench yet
you should build that
Oh wow the devs actually made the attack damage stat useful now
Well, useful for the bots that can now punch you for 30 damage
Little bit expensive
I mean i still have other benches to upgrade before i could get a t5 dismantle bench
But so far i got 4 max benches
Then save it in weapon shelf if you can for now
It's big brain time
Yes that i can do

I have alot of space
Did it work?
Absolutely did
Bear was guarding metal and brown coal so it was worth waiting
That bear is 40 spirit to tame no? I had 36
Depending which bear, talking lvl 40 one yes it takes 40 spirits
That's t2 zone bear yeah. 40 most likely
its level 45 so 45 sprite needed
to tame it
level is not always 100% exact with spirit needed for all animals tho
but i think u are right for bear
yeah cause i am bear personš¤£
I'll come back at lvl 40 and if I die I'll let you know <.<
its 45 mate and pls don't die run like flash and save yourself
Like I'd die to a slow bear
Proceed to get clapped by n bear
š lol
Totally not why I ran into a hole to hide x)
I was expecting the bear to then clap the quest NPCs
hmm
Came back to ranch and pucked it up
Done cultists
1/2 schof
1/2 winch
1/2 trench
13 red salves
3/4 shriff armour
1/2 gunfighter armour
Were used
So
I made more than what I needed
A schof+a sheriff set was just good for nothing
@crystal bay
I'd surround my base with sandbags and spikes for defense
Is there a limit to how many you can place?
Yes
What is it? 50, 100?
Idk
Mhmmm. Field tells me 1/8 so I know there's 8 max, but I wished defense items would do that too.
gg boi
yeah for sandbag its 50
50 is good (I need 40) but spikes I'd need around 60
idk for spikes its 55 to 60 i think
what stat did you used?
Perfect that's work for me. Just need to make 100 ropes now
but y do you need so much spikes tho, is it iron spikes?

wooden is useless tho for higher lvl bandits
Wooden spikes. I have a base that's 10x10 I want to surround it with a layer of sandbags (40) then spikes (48+)
Or would it be enough with just sandbags?
oh so you bought new lands great mate
Nah
- Sandbags donāt have any effect on the bandits. At the beginning, they are useful in slowing them down but as a player you should be focusing on the strength of the walls.
yeah these wont stop em
try to build layers of walls
Yeah yeah I don't want them run away. Just to stick around destroying useless obstacles and give me time to kill them
Layers of wall will drive me crazy XD
hmm try to make iron spikes when you unlock north
yeah try to boost up spirit stat
oh tin mine then you should focus on guns and armors
I max it out right now. I can farm green zones butt naked thanks to all the wolves
do canyon trail for stat rings
yeah t2 wolf need 25 spirit
How far can I get with a few spiked clubs?
and bob cat need 30
Whats the upcoming new event? Seems the week is too dull
idkš
I can tame alpha buffalo wolf atm
maybe a battle pass idk mate
Why'd they call them buffalo wolves anyway? They get one shot by a buffalo
oh nice
š maybe idk, i think its because of ther color
racist meš¤£
š
alfa needs 30 spirit
I'll keep working on my workbenches for now
And hope for more old road events, these are not too hard for the resources they give
and storages
agree
Need to many resources for everything huuuuh
try to make planning for everyday farming mate
and do your daily task that will help you a lot
I do, I do
and canyon too
great
I usually plan out trips for what I need most, which is usually metal
Fuel rather. Got lots of tin but no brown coal
yeah metal is common requirement then woods
youll find some in foggy plateau
like 40 i think
every trip you do in foggy plateau youll find brown coal every time
That's with quite the luck, usually I find 20 guarded by a cougar
but you have spirit stat right?
hmm
I was only able to place 46 sandbags. Not sure why the unusual limit number.
Def
nice
Weird
They're in the north I believe
when you unlock north or south
How?
youll find it in shootout spot too
But need to upgrade my resources
If you're lvl 40+ you also find them at event spots I believe
Opening north or south would move your daily quests and events there so up to you, make sure you have horse and necessary gear first
I dont have have horse
Nor wagon
youll find maple in shootout spot so no worry
and you can get em in town
U can still go dried forest
Just be aware of T3 lynx
yeah but it gives only 2 per tree
Wagon is not for a long time but north required horse
nice
Kill them, get their map, and loot their stash
And i think some hideouts of low lv but im not sure about this
I really can't remember
Ok
oh yeah right
Yeah but there are a fair ammnt
Of them
hmm right
Whats there map
how can you go to snowy pass if you dont have horse
Idk tell me
One of the bandits you kill have it. I'm talking raiders attacking your ranch here
Horse parts are very hard to collect i am not getting anything
That map will tell there hideout?
Yup it's guarded by a super low level ragamuffin and has good loot
If they stole your stuff before it has a chance to be there too
Do i get something rare?
You get a full set of armor, resources, and sugar cubes (horse stamina)
nop
I drink one alcohol and it stop for freezing for few secons
and same heals and weapon
Horse items can be found at shootout spot event
yeah whiskey helps you
If you have saved silver, can buy in town as well
60 coine
but i still dont understand how can you go to snowy pass with out horse
Do bounties for more coins
I got emergency stop but it is level 60
Why?
yeah it will be hard for you
How to do that
Event level goes up with you somehow.
I am 46 only
Wooden board? The sheriff gives you a mission to build it very early on
And events coming 60 lv
usally you need horse for snowypass
Ok
Once you're lvl 40 events become lvl 60 (tier 3)
you must have built in when you did missions
That's why I recommend not levelling up too fast
what no
I build carpenter t3
yeah thats right
nice
For that reason i think im getting lv 60 events
I opened shout to fast and i had very hard times with quest
I cant do the emergency event i will skip it
yeah you should
If you skip another event shows up after a few hours
3 hours later
@glacial tangle got 1 expansion, next one is 250, so what you said about patch notes meant that the new expansions from cow update are fixed at 1k instead of keep going x2
You can still chose any size you want, but after it gets to 1k it will stay 1k for all the others
"only"
Only as in the only price available
But unless they keep adding 4x4 structures, 1 or maybe 2 expansions are all you need
Well done, partner!š
Just take the 5x5 ones
And those to easily move things around, I can still everything I need in the free space
With my current house I can fit up to 4 of these fields without expansions
Why is cotton cloth using EIGHT fibers?
I'll get more of them killing bandits than farming zones
sad, then it's a weird wording there on patch notes...
Hi .what is the most valuable item to keep it into the strongbox in ranch ? Iām going craft a coffer but have no idea what type of material or item I should save in it
The safe boxes? I'd say anything you find to be particularly hard to get? Like sugar, pet bowls, etc. Maybe some weapons are t5 resources?
i go with fried fish, and T5 gun parts
hello
Bandits canāt destroy strongbox incase I die in my ranch ?
exactly, they can't
strongbox what do you mean?
safe
in other languages the word literally means strong box like for example in spanish
Tnx mate
Another question.if I upgraded all my walls doors and floors to level 3 I would have continued to tier 4 or not itās waisting resources
?
oh okay
yeah it is good investment tho
only if you got extra resources , i wouldn't say it's a waste
but not a priority
i wanted to make a fortress but i need so much stone that i got bored and end up with T2 walls mostly
hmmš¤
and now i have to break down some walls to make space for fields
but not having space for resources so....
and floors
yeah
yeah i know the pain
My level is 75 .if I attack my neighbors ranch ,it could be difficult? What do I need for it to be successful?
can't remember but they aren't too strong, just like a regular bot
Neighbor ranches are all around t3
If I remember correctly
You can expect one bot there but that's about it. No bandits or anything
just use a good gun you gonna use only a few shots anyways
Yo'll need axes and dynamites to get to the good loot though
Strong as bots attacking you in t3 zones
You mean snowy area the north of the map ?
Yeah
Probably going to use an iron weapon, like a spear, maybe a gun? Just take whatever will kill it quickly and you'll be fine
Iām going to test peacemaker with t4 heals
nice
Why do bots have hammers that hit faster than knives
Loots were awesome
Only one misfortune š
I didnāt have wagon to cargo the strongbox
Strongbox in bot ranch has the same loots such the one we find in forest ?

yep
Hey š Everyone. A quick one , Puma Cougars where can I find one.?
Thanks in advance...
South you can find cougars in the laky area
There is a t1 cougar/ puma in stone plat
Maybe test your luck in finding one in t2 zone and t3 zone im not sure
Lvl 40 right.? Nothing higher :(
for t2 zones lvl40 is the right one
Is there a way to know what specific items will i get from this offer??
its a t2 one with blocks, woods, metals, leather
Then its better to wait when i get t4 item box ,...... infuture....maybe
yeah youll get this guy in everyupdate
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Dont spend money
nice
and got your stuff back gg

nice mate
spend it well you are in t4
they used to give
not now
But it was mentioned
hmm i didnt got one since the new update
maybe a bug or rare
Think so
I need horse parts or i will not be able to cross the snowy pass
well do shootout every time you see me
I got old wagon event what should i to
I have already my backpack full
And i have space
go home put all your stuff away then go fight old road
yeah
The money i spend is the money i earn from different games, heard of albion online its my main source of income atm
Hmm nice
I was doing my quest someone came and killed me
While i was fighting
Who was that
Bruh the old road is way out of my league
All of them are the shooters
The rewards were great but its way out of my league
An ai players
Yeah it's hard for low lvl playets
Its a bot player
Yeah the worst part is they have paid petsš
But why
i dont want
Nothing is fun i was fighting and he game with another guy and killed me i could even used heals
When you become stronger you'll have fun
Hmm
You needa chill
Wait what how do you make money?
RMT for in game items š
I play albion but never heard of someone make money from it
Ahh ok
Well i am a millionare so sell silver for money
Its like poeple selling silver for money
Yes
Yup already maxed out frost born had achived everytjing in last day on earth , so g8vi g this game a try too
And?
The only reason i am loving this game is because of the really good graphics
XD
For a mobile game
Nothing was just sharing
I like the mechanics and the graphics
I meant that in a way of how do you enjoy it...
"and do you likr it?"
I just forgot most of the sentence
Yeah i am liking this game, it seems promising
And the community is friendly not toxic,a very rare sight to see
Too much grindy
And everyone herr gets along just fine
Yeah i saw in these 2 days people are really helpful, and everyone tries to help u out as much as they can
Its the least we high lvl players could do
Besides some of us, (mostly me) had donr some pretty stupid things and when poeple ask about it i do enjoy to share and help them not do the same
Im almost lvl 90
not good
I should still be lvl 70
Wowā¦101 on leaderboard! Never been so highā¦and still donāt know how I got there!
Yeah newbie mistakes, big part of every survival game
Good job now aim for top 10

Very true
Its the only way you learn
I wouldā¦if I knew what I did to get 101! Iāve never paid much attention to the leaderboard science!
Max focus stat
What do you mean able about the leader board science?
Lv 95 and I'm really bad at this game
How about overalls for the farm??
Badass
Anyone here plays SWgoh ?
Who sells new bot ranch map in the bar ?the danser ? Or she sells the map of other alliances for gold rush event ?
damn
when she sells only ai players base map
alliance map it can be found in your alliance by a guy name John something he is one sells it.
Cora Pearl
base def helps a lot with that,
but animals still deal a lot of dmg personally i try to kill animals before they bite me
like i buy a book and reset my statš
yeah agree but if you have above 91% animal bite just like mosquitos bite
oh fur armor is weak anyways,
yeah
Tnx dear
nah ill die, defense is the right way
oh you mean like bruce leeš
Yup! Punch'em all
i am too rich dont want em
Excellent!
Thereās an art to leaderboard eg WHEN to carry out quests etc ie the timing can influence your points?
Bleh this mine has two bears
nice
Not nice when I still can't tame them
Well done, partner!š
Had to kill one but I ended p leaving with 60 brown coal
Fell asleep last night in tin mine and woke up to this, sad, the bag and gun i purchased broke
Well done, partner!š
My fist bandit stash loot and i did not get any horse satble part, is this normal??
Yikes. And these can only be repaired with fish
I'd never use the Nameless Hero gear
Oh thats really sad
At least it's not THAT amazing, just unique
Yeah now i ll just put these nameless items in a chest as a trophy items maybe
For weapons don't you have spiked clubs? That thing is amazing in green and orange zones.
The backpack is alright but now that it broke might as well store it
I asked before and they don't give horse parts anymore, just sugar
Yeah, u r right, i ll just store these items
This will make it hard for newbies to get wagon and satble parts
That's the point I think you already get them from shootout spot
Devs don't want you to have that much fun
Shoot out spot dont spawn really often, 2.5 days in this game and only appered twice
Haha, but thats really sad
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Same reason I need 8 cotton to make one cloth instead of 3
While getting no seeds
Make it six times harder to farm why don't you
Seeds are really hard u r right
Because now seeds are "infinite" but that doesn't matter if I get two a day
I think like it would be a struggle to get all those cooton roles to upgrade my benches to T3
Or just to make a 15 slots backpack
Needs 20 rolls
That's 100 cloth
Or 800 cotton

T5 would be 1500
20 rolls?? Well its going to be a struggle
Ohh
Backpacks are useful so of course it's gotta be hard to get :>
Either that or cough out 5$ I guess
The game just feels very hostile towards new players.
Nope i ll spend only on t4 and t5 benches upgrade time
It would be better
Dunno if I'll spend on much. I want to spend money because I feel like it, not because I have to
"Spend 5$ or grind for 10h" I'll grind tyvm
Donāt use t5 gun in t2 zone
Cant access the storage
I wish I had your t5 guns š¬š
That's the t2 pistol from newbie offer
T2 pistol
Nameless Hero thing
Really ?
Yes
It looks t5 pistol šæ
Yeah. I think you get it from buying the cat/dog from Willy the Kid
Looks cool but it's T2 and unrepairable, so just a collector item
They have multiple offer for that
I got corgy offer after that and regretted buying the first offer
There's a 1$ pack, if you don't buy it a guy comes to your ranch to guilt trip you into buying a cat or dog.
its repairable
It is with fish
yeah
if you are a beginner the yeah you should
yeah it will be repairable in bench but i dont know when
Really? New update or something?
Every new update triples the early game grind I don't know how to feel about that
I liked the easter event weapons u guys got, wish i would have joined earlier
I have a suggestion for you .before going to the north .upgrade all your walls and doors to level 3
Oh of course seeds are in the cash shop
Well at the very least you buy them they don't "go"
Unlike resources and gear
Ok i ll make sure of it but i need to go to north to get t3 walls
Iron nails and mapple woods are in north and that black stone
My suggestion: just don't go north. Farm t3 t4 t5 first through events. You open up north and south? You gotta go twice as far to do daily quests.
I haven't even started making the barn I'm already lvl 40
Just upgrading workbenches
I am not focusing on any projects
They are maybe for upper lvl people
Need to get benches to t3 first
At least barn so I can store my damn seeds
And i am also saving silver, once i find out what they are best used for
Pet house because the earlier I have it the faster I can tame bears
But even that will take days due to bowls being one every 2/3 days on average
With all these big projects, one really need that extra space
But they are cash or gold only
They added tons of expensive projects but didn't reduce the grind for anything else
Overall making it worse for new players
both
there is plenty og space in your ranch
No way brother, haha, i thought it was either one of them
no
lol
Well, as a new player, I can tell you: yes
as a old player ill say no
I'm already lvl 40 fighting t3 enemies only working on my workbenches. Straight didn't have the resources to make any piece of gear other than t1 spiked clubs.
Which lvl r u and how much time it has been since u started playing this game
Well done, partner!š
Make a brand new character and come back in a couple weeks. Then you'll know how it feels
mate come on its just t2 resouces
for your lvl it will be ezy
Very right the game is hard in a way enemies are stronger dura drop of armor is fast and res are really hard to get
My problem is I need so many resources, I level up way too fast and can't make any gear
If they tweaked the other things, it would be fine. But as it stands, it's just extra work that eats away at my ability to progress my equipment
hmm
sad
Aaaand I still need 50+ ingots to even start all of the projects
are you doing your daily quest
money is imp
I'm sure it is
But once again, they give a ton of exp that makes you face enemy way stronger than you
problem is not the exp you have low gears so focus on your weapon and armor
I KNOW
But I'm already fighting enemies one tier above me by just upgrading my workbenches
I don't have resources left for gear
Progression is not balanced
I don't have VIP and somehow I was lvl 30 in one day, what gives?
for lvl low it will be easy to lvl up quick when you reach lvl50 it will go slow and slower
Well done, partner!š
Well I sure hope so, don't want to fight t4 enemies (lvl 60) while still working on my t3 workbenches
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well now i am gonna start my own alliance tho'
Have fun
Technically I can join an alliance in 10 lvl but they're all looking for 105 players
no you cant
š
alliance lvl starts at 50
lol i like you
i am creating my alliance just to help ppl for there boat once they got 150 gold to kick outš¤£

No thatās t4
Iām not sure
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Itās becoming unpleasant to post opinions here that differ from a mod who often says your opinion is wrong.
what do you mean jane, you are free to post your opinions
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Well,I have set a lot of goals which take my time
So I can't contribute well
only take gold no contribution needed
uh but once i finished some buildingsš
no need
yeah will tell you mate
if i needed anyhelp
btw its only t3 so no big deal
Looking for active alliance to joinā¦
Well done, partner!š
#1097545731549708358
Agreedā¦itās a fine line between moderating and being opinionatedā¦
Hmm

Donāt get me wrong - itās a difficult jobā¦and I wouldnāt do it!
I don't understand what do you mean
If I did anything offensive, I am totally sry guys
Not at all - Iām not aware of why JA made the comment but, as a principal, moderators are there to encourage and keep the discussion flowing but, sometimes, their own opinions can actually discourage thatā¦
Just my opinion - no criticism of you specifically!
Hmm but I am player too thoš
No jane sended that message to me tho
How dare you have an opinion on the internet
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Thatās what makes your job tougher!
Nah its okay not that hard tho, sry guys if acted like a drill sergeant š
Why do I need so many resources to store my gosh darn seeds
Cause it will have more storage space tho
Never had issue with throwing them in food storage before that update
Me too lol𤣠but it's looks unique
It sure looks unique alright
Yeah, the barn has a TON of storage space!
Yeah right
I wish it had the same amount of storage space for all chestš¤£š¤£
I mean... True, but... I turn fiber into cloth immediately (so it goes in cloth storage) and seeds are not what i'd call plentiful
So I'd store corn in it
Yeah corn corn corn
Only to make mass animal feed later and only have seeds in the barn x)
Yeah totally
Right now though gotta farm farm farm so I can upgrade my workbenches... Back to it I guess
I have like 800+ corn now