#Elohim's Creation / Творение Элохима
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You don't notice the downed fences
In some puzzles, the fences are down after solving them
Imma leave the game running, but I have to hop out for now to run an errand
Yep yep! Just a there and back
k
Probably around 20-30 minutes?
k
||I hope that's not possible||
Yep
Cool, I have an idea about that, and if I'm right I have NO idea where to go next
Great
Need hint?
||If I can get a smuggle item list that would help||
||Not where from, just the items needed||
It exists
Lovely
Check the fences
I'm going to assume this is unintentional
||To collect a star in this way is not intended nor possible||
Gotcha
||Even if you set the cube exactly on that edge, you won't reach it||
Well, I have my collection
Even if i get that connector (if it's possible) I wouldn't know where to use it
It's time to look for hints. Where do you think we should look for them?
Probably in the QR codes
Yep
||I saw the nice Talos 2 reference in one of them, which I now see helps with the green laser, but where does that laser go?||
Thinking out loud right now, not asking for a hint
Don't forget ||to scan QR codes||
||Unless you've done something cheeky with the textures, QR codes in Talos are translated in game as well||
||Not all QR codes in Talos matches to text that you see in the game||
||Theres a few I can think of that would be weird||
Motherf-
Alright that's a cool puzzle not gonna lie
||The reactions to this QR code are always hilarious||
||I mean, expected lmao||
||But it would have also tipped me off to look deeper at them, so it serves another purpose||
Oh I was RIGHT NEXT TO ONE??
||Unless there's a spot in the castle I missed, the last one has to be over there||
||Last star?||
||Got it. Have you seen a place like this inside the castle?||
||A lot of gates, yeah, but none of them look like the image||
||Note that there is a roof in the screenshot||
||Oh is that what that is?||
||Yeah, I'm stumped, I can't find that roof||
||I know it's staring right at me but I can't see it||
||This place isn't in a castle||
That would make more sense
||Other than the tower and the castle, I don't know of anywhere that has that cobblestone texture||
||I've been all over this island and I haven't found it, let alone another gate I haven't seen||
||You've never been to this place before||
If you need a hint, it's still the same
||Not a castle, haven't been there before, so I assume it's on that other island. But how do I get there???||
||Is the "walk towards the stars" QR hint used here?||
||Yep. Check the QR near fan unlocker||
||I keep forgetting the most basic things sometimes||
It's okay
||Check the QR code on greenlight tower||
I'm gonna have to retroactively check every single one just in case
||If I'm not mistaken, this is the last hint in the QR codes||
😄
God that hurt my eyes
Oh and why look
Exactly what I wanted
||Well, I can't START the puzzle until I figure out how to get that laser||
||Check where it collides with a rocks||
That's mean, I hope you know that XDD
I dont know 😄
Please tell me I'm not softlocked
Looks like
If I hold X do all my items get reset?
If you say so Mr. Creator
I gotta say, I'm stumped
I can do a bunch of things but none of them help the end goal
||You aren't required to enable fan right now||
||being on top||
||Only other thing I can activate with this janky angle is the first gate, which isn't really helpful||
||Your next move is on a platform||
inside the puzzle ofc
I think I'm rather confusing you with these hints lol
Yeah tiny bit lol
I enjoy not being given the answer, but when there's so little to work with...
I got nothing
lol
Well this is inviting
That's cheese
Yeah, I figured lol
So stupid cheese 😄
Alright, it's almost 2 AM and my brain is frazzled. Can I get the next step at least before my head explodes?
||being on top, you need to put the connector on a button||
||now you can use both cubes||
||so you can easily place both on the fan||
I think that's enough for hint
A game plan is in my head
Just need a way to do it
Thinking out loud
||I need to enter the first gate, cut the power to the fan so that it drops and opens the second gate while I'm in the in-between||
||And why is the other fan needed? That's the part I really don't understand||
||Think what you can do while timer is ticking||
wp
||That's why the other fan is there and why it takes so long to fire up||
I think
I'm done for the night
Lmao
Is it possible to scroll up to the first post?
Every time I want to edit my post, I have to scroll through all 1000+ comments
@crystal quiver Maybe you know?
Don't think so
Is it possible to pin a message? I don't see that option
I think only moderators can pin messages even here
But yeah, it sucks how you have to scroll all the way up to the top instead of just being able to jump to it
And another flaw of this discord forum thingy is if you try to select threads with a certain tag it only shows a few and the rest disappear
So to be able to scroll all the "maps" tag let's say you can't select any tags and have to scroll all the threads manually to get to some old map release
Idk why Discord didn't do anything about these 2 flows
so you saying get all stars and get first ending? when i got some free time i might attempt it thats all
or are you saying i would be able to just do the puzzles and get first ending for it to be "valid"?
||I meant that you need to visit the first ending terminal before activating the second ending||
||I want to make this really necessary since the second terminal mentions what Elohim says in the first terminal||
||so you grab all the stars, go to terminal 1, say stay, then go to terminal 2?||
also would you allow the use of the fast forward key? explicitly in recorder puzzles only?
||say I don't ready||
Assuming that you will play without resets, you can use FF. It affects the ingame timer too, so you will be able to see non-FF time too.
btw don't forget to enable ingame timer
nice
XD
We're kinda stuck ||searching for the last switch. The one shown behind a blue door on the image behind the fortress||
||there's a particular QR case which can guide you to all 5||
||different from the one with the picture?||
||so you have fully "scanned" the correct QR code?||
i dont want to give the game away for others even if they do reveal these lol
||I scanned the one next to the door with my phone. Clicked the link to the picture. But cant find the bottom left switch on it :/||
||I passed the door next to the QR code but I'm pretty sure it was not legit. The blue beam is sent to the island but I haven't found a way to reach it||
so you've done half of the job right there. ||you just need to figure out how to get over there now||
||any tips for that? Thanks a lot anyway :)||
theres another QR which can help with that
||It's very cryptic and philosophical, you'll know it when you see it||
||frog and bats thing?||
unfortunately not lol
Back to square 1 then...
Ah, might have an idea
||is it necessary for the blue beam to be connected to cross?||
||it's not necessary to cross no, but you still need it once you get over there||
||you can cross any time you want||
||has to do with "the path you cant see" right?||
I swear I thought I tried that already xD thanks a lot 🙂
@barren acorn im gunna start trying a speed run lol
so far
for now im allowing resets for myself just so i can practive the puzzles
had to reset FG twice lol
Huh
There is a safe way to ||solve FG that doesn't require you to do tricky moves with a bomb||
@icy minnow How far did you get?
Fanless into the castle 
using various glitches etc
It seems to me that this is only possible with a fan, but I have fixed all the fans before
Uh okay
Glitches won't be fixed
item jumps / taking items through barriers / ladder glitches
What are you doing?
hmm well a combination of all those... if you're not going to fix then i'll do a vid sometime
I don't think there's any point in fixing glitches. Their use is on the player's conscience 😄
Why did I think of that if you're fanless lol
We finished both ends about 2 hours ago 😉
Great map 🙂
I like the changes and fixes you’ve done to FG and Intervention.
||struggling to figure out how to get the 2nd connector out of intervention again though since you made the fence higher haha. Might need a hint lol ||
||Connector from Intervention is no longer stealable. Now it's intended to steal only 1 connector and 2 boxes||
||Checkout the crypt: there is new item||
Oh okay haha
I will later I’m at work currently
So my next question is: ||how do I get the blue beam to the island with only one connector lol ||
||I've brought back the old simple way that was originally intended. From the window in Exhibit.||
😄
Got quicker at the puzzle too
I did fg in 12 mins and exhibit it 7 I think
I really like the changes to fg btw
The fact you don’t have to resolve the whole thing if you do a reset before ||trying to smuggle the 2 boxes and connector back out||
The wall also extended out so you can’t activate the right side gate with a connector in the middle. Didn’t take long for me to figure it out actually
||you point the connector from the middle to the fixed connector and also from the connector on the pressure plate to the fixed one so the electric drone can’t knock out both beams at the same time?|| please say that’s the correct way haha
||Does this method work or is it just a guess?||
||No, it wasn't intended that way, but I don't think it's a problem. There are at least two other ways to do it.||
||All the ways requires you to use static connector, so you need to prevent passive mine from blocking the beam||
||But there are at least 3 ways to deal with the mine||
||tbh the originally intended method is the simplest, and yet I haven't seen anyone get to it||
||Well one way I know of is to get the cube from intervention and use it to block the path of the mine||
||I listed only methods without external items||
||Block with cube, disable with jammer and your||
But obviously that isn’t the original way. I know it meant to be solved without external mean||
||Ahhhh jammer yes||
Honestly didn’t think of the obvious lol
I can see you fixing my method. ||where you’ve moved the static connector it’s now viewable from the middle||
Please don’t I quite like it haha
It feels intentional when I did it. Unlike all the questionable ways I’ve solved it before haha
tbh I'm not sure if it's worth fixing
||In that case you can't get out a connector that is connected with static connector||
||So you'll still need to activate it some other way||
||Just thought thought, to use the jammer on the drone you then are then exposing yourself to the bomb?||
||This is possible with the proper placement of all available objects||
||Just thought, using a connector to block make it bounce back and a cube to get back up to the top pressure plate?||
||No because then need the connector to bridge the beam to the connector on the plate…||
Hmm
||Blockink mine with connector is intended||
||Yes but with the connector down on the ground you can’t grab it without getting blown up and also once you jam the electric drone the the force field will be back up again so you need something on the top pressure plate to begin with||
||unless you simply place the cube on the ground so you can get back up, connector on top pressure plate, wait then run into the bottom pressure plate to block the bomb behind you. Then jam the electric drone, then time it so you can place the connector on the plate again (connected to the static one) and run to the cube and jump up before the bomb coms back? ||
I so wish I was at home to try that. It sound like it would work
||Sounds pretty complicated. My way: place a connector on the bottom plate, cube on the top plate. Then use jammer to stop the mine near the window, put a connector that will both wire the beam and block the mine. Then pick up the jammer and catch the timing to deactivate the passive mine||
||Hmm i would have thought the bomb would block the path of the beam as it bounces off the connector. Or do you just have to have clever placement (to one side) so it doesn’t ||
||I think I had one connector up in the window, and then i guess the angle down to the ground connector means it's not broken by mine... ||
Yep it works too
I think that’s how I solved part of it yesterday.
Here's my useless fanless route for first area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4XEA5xVmc8
Just for fun. Don't think you can finish a run skipping fan. Star thrown in for good measure.
Now comes the fun part
||I thought the fan on the hill would take me to this star on top of the puzzle, but now I have no idea how to get up here||
||Is the solution another fan I just haven't found yet?||
Yep
Figured
I'm surprised you haven't found it yet
Thats straight up witchcraft bruh.....
good idea though to lower graphics setting lower to get smoother frames
i play on max and sometimes hiccups
can you complete the whole game fanless though
stars too
if so then bravo
It's needed for the high item jumps
But no, I doubt you can do it all fanless
Except maybe with cube jumps, which I haven't yet mastered on the current build...something changed about how they work
not that im am going to be using them but how d oyou even do them
i get you jump to it and pause and it auto levitates you up? or you have to do something?
Basically drop and jump, but in a certain position (distance from wall, and may be the wall has to be slighty sloping) you can get a "Perfect item jump" which launches you a lot, needs high frame rate i think... I'm not an expert on these things
Then there's a "nozu jump" which is sort of similar but involves drop, pickup, jump, so you can take items with you
yeah i saw them looks like its split second timing too
i was referring to the ladder/cube jumps
oh yeah that's some weird thing, guided slide, where you jump whilst in the menu
and combined with the ladder , it sort of thinks you are still on the ladder
would be good to see an any% run
or maybe not even guided slide...maybe it's a guided warp....yeah go and watch some you'll see all these
im going for a glitchless run
oh i mean in the normal game any%, or all sigils...
or maybe not all these, but some ... i think ladder stuff maybe only in 60fps all sigils
well any% refers to you can abuse glitches to get past things quicker like you did
glitchless is well in the name
playing how its intended
sure I mean in the normal game speedruns that exist, I've learn the tricks from guides that people have made for running them
go watch either the runs, or have a look at the tutorials, with a bit of practice you can at least familiarize yourself with them
i might do. be interesting to see how much of the game you can skip
azorae's former wr for all sigils is great
like i said though i just want to try and get some sort of decent time playing it how its intended
just pure speed and efficiency
fg is sweaty trying to get it done quick
but why the no resets rule?
idk, in game clock i spose
i would say you game save once you've collected all sigils would be sufficient
oh, set up livesplit, and it has a splitter for ttp1 and will auto start on new game etc
i dont know how to set those up
ive seen loads of speed runners for old games run a splitter though so i know what they do and how they work
watxhing azoraes vid now
he's insane lol
just yeets himself across the map just hopping everwhere haha
i dont get how he resets so quick 
looots of practice
i bet
Elohim's Creation / Творение Элохима
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Hey, guys! How about we leave some messages on the map?
If anyone wants to, write a text, I'll leave your messages on the spawn 😄
Example:
Don't go to the forgotten garden
-- Qoqqi v27.6.1997
here?
Yep
"Great creative puzzles, Very well made. Can't wait for more." 😄
There will be more 🙂
What nickname should I put it under?
"Glitched_Spoon" is fine
Okay
Wow, this map came out on top for the year
Congrats
Tbh, there weren't many maps in last 6 years but you still got enough subscribers and views to earn 4 stars on workshop
However for 5 stars I think you need a thousand like ratings or some big number like that
Yeah, steam's stupid rating system
A little bit of info that I found:
You need 200 positive votes (and +1 vote more for every negative vote to have 5 stars). So you gain 5 stars only after 200 positive votes + 1 vote for every negative + 1 extra positive vote to get 5 stars.
It's a bit dumb but if it has 4 stars you know it's worth downloading
However, from what I understand, it's pretty easy to get down to three stars
Just one or two dislikes
Really?
So basically you need 200 more positive than negative with the threshold being 200 lol
In your case that will be 200 positive and 0 negative 
Because your map is goated
@zenith wharf Now you have a QR
There's an IMPOSTER

i am struggling with forgotten garden

We all did
There's a lot of "moving parts" It's not just a set items down and its done lol. You need to unlock certain aspects of the puzzle to progress and get the right items in the right place.
i have it though 
i finally solved it
Welcome to the club
It’s a good puzzle though isn’t it. It’s long and complex, not easy at all to fudge parts and actually fun.
@barren acorn I hope you are looking at doing another map soon
Get a bit of a portfolio going to get them ratings up
Already doing

How long did this one take you to make ready for release?
A month and a half of hardworking
Wow that’s quick for how well made this one is
Don’t burn yourself out too much bro
In doing so, I ran the editor for the first time lol
And the Intervention puzzle is the first thing I did
Toward the end of the map creation really got tired, so the paired "Exactly, but vice versa" puzzles got a bit rambling
I like intervention, quite simple but satisfying. ||The way you have to run the one beam to block the 1st beam to hold the door open. Quite cool||
No they are still well designed puzzles but in “Exactly/visa versa” there are a couple of element which don’t get used at all, unless they only serve as elements to confuse the player into how to solve it?
You’ve seen how I solved it right? Is that the intended way?
Actually, you don't need to ||connect the connector to anything to solve puzzle. It's only required to steal the cube||
👀
There is a lot of ||fans, but only one is used in intended solution in each puzzle. I mirrored fans to make puzzle symmetric.||
Yep
||There is a lot of solutions, but all of them is actually set of same moves||
You can only change the order of these steps
yeah i noticed. first time i solved it i got the same result but after that i found a solve with less moving about. with the playback you obviously have the choice how to solve it a bit more
By the way, I read in the comments that in the same puzzle you can somehow climb the walls. I think if you put the cube on the fan.
yeah probably... with perfect timing and aim though
"that same puzzle" even you know its annying to have to type out every time haha
Note to self: shorter/easier puzzle names 
They're already as short as possible 😄
All that's left is to rename FG to G
btw your nickname is no longer glitchy. Is it time to change it to Fixed spoon? 🤔
Forgotten garden is fine
Nah apparently its against server rules to have non standard characters
so i had a mod change it for me
got it
It wasn't a mod who pointed it out. was someone else and i wasnt aware it was a rule (lets be honest who actually reads them properly) 
However, no one paid attention to it for a long time
i know haha
i made a comment about someone name having bitcoin in it and actually being a person who talks not a scambot
and someone else said that my name was a actually against the rules
i was like...

Actually, I don't really understand the point of this rule. What's it for?
Dunno tbh
must have been someone who had such an messed up name they couldnt tag them
only thing i can think of
I've never been in a server with that rule so with how specific the rule is, prob something they had an issue with
Then I guess this rule doesn't make sense anymore, since you can now refer by username
btw how's it going with the speedrun?
got it
i think ihave some of the switches done (and saved) i believe i have 2 more to do ||(castle wall and temple island)||
yes i'm enjoying this
🙂
Something went wrong?
no everything fine, still looking for some of the switches and 1 star
Oh, okay, you're welcome to help if you need it
Happy to give loose hints too 🙂
please may i have some hints for the other switches? i have found the one in the bush and the one on the little island.
||Scan the QR behind the castle||
can't believe i walked past that a hundred times
It's okay
Well... After a long time, I did record a walkthrough
If anyone needs or is just wondering, here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYdNNfTL5iQZQN4f0J7PpNHxrJqPk3se0
Ask and ye shall receive
I've already added it to the main post, but let it be
So far I have found 3 sigils to free the Fan but I can't the fourth one. What are the locations of these sigils?
Try to check inside of ||Exhibit and Forgotten garden puzzles||
I have just finished this map, first of all great work. I played through it in VR so there were some hiccups along the way but overall it can be finished.
I spent way too long trying to activate one of the switches that i finally gave up and looked at the walkthrough video. It turned out ||to be way simpler than what i was assuming - you just step on a box and flick it, but you can not do this in VR because my real-life arm is not long enough to reach it and the switch never became hilighted/pressable so i assumed more boxes were needed and even with them it was still not enough. I tried jumping from the top of the castle wall multiple times with no success. I ended up having to stand on the box, then stand on my bed IRL to become artificially tall enough to reach it.||
- The binculars don't work in VR, when you click it, it just disappears and you get frozen in place
- ||The way to get the box into the puzzle from the side does not work in VR in the intended way because the box cannot be reached with your hand once you jump onto the next platform. I ended up getting around it by performing a trick where you place the box and jump immediately after to land ontop of it which i think is not possible in the flat version of the game||
- ||I did not finish the last two puzzles for the 4th star the normal way as i was able to bust out three boxes and a jammer. This was probably not intended to be possible||
Thank you for playing and for the detailed feedback!
I had anticipated that there might be some challenges in VR, but unfortunately, I don’t have VR, so I can't fully test or optimize the map for VR play. Anyway, that's great, that you found a way to resolve all the issues.
Stealing the three boxes and the jammer really wasn't intended, however at this point I don't know of any ways to get them without using glitches.
The issues have mostly involved things being just out of arm reach, but only to get to the various secrets. To bust out the jammer|| i went to the puzzle with the mine in it. In the area next to the mine where the box is, i placed the box on the platform next to the window. It's possible to jump from there to the top of the closed barrier and stand on it. Then you can grab the box and put it ontop of the barrier to jump outside the puzzle and take anything else you want with you like the jammer or any box or connector.||