Option to set “default attack”

[remote pond]

Just a option to set a default attack to a certain attack a unit has would be nice (for instance the guillotine attack for thresher tank is set to 3rd attack) if I were able to just select the unit and straight up blast my favorite attack it would be a good quality change

[fading zealot]

Allowing us to change the order of attacks in the unit menu would work

[meager stratus]

pretty nice QoL change but would make macro-ing alot easier

[remote pond]

Yeah but at the same time it’s been stressing me when I use undesired attack against bosses and waste a precious turn

Especially against bosses like AS where a single turn can change the whole outcome of the battle

[smoky swallow]

I really want to be able to pick attacks with keybinds on PC

[fading zealot]

I agree, making life harder for Macroers is worth making life worse for everyone.

In fact, I think we should randomize what attacks are in what slot every battle, hell, every round of every battle so that everyone has to look really closely at the icons before they attack.

But there are still units with only one attack, so for them, let's add a blank attack that skips your turn and have that be randomly placed as well.

It may hurt the average person, it may drive away new players, and it might make grinding extremely aggravating, but hey, at least the Macroers are suffering too. That's what really matters

[oblique locust]

I dont think it would have an impact actually

[smoky swallow]

Macroing is easy either way

Any system that requires making it needlessly difficult on legit players to detect Macros doesn't have good cheat detection

[smoky swallow]

It would be a minor difference

Even the most efficient and accurate players are nowhere near as fast as a poorly made macro

[remote pond]

Bro got so offended 🥹
I can understand his point too but then again I think this may reduce macro users tbh
Like ranking up troops is already tedious enough like it’s so annoying to a point where I lowkey understand why people would macro

[fading zealot]

Think of it the other way around. If we could set our attack order as default and someone suggested we have fixed attacks just to make life harder for Macro users, it would be absurd

[meager stratus]

sounds reasonable

[torpid badger]

autohotkey detect pixel color

[remote pond]

Like if we have to be so worried about macro users just implement auto battle

Many games does that already

But im suggesting this because id rather let people grind for nice things

Because you should be rewarded for your dedication

[fading zealot]

I would LOVE to set my phone up as I work and watch my troops demolish raiders in the background, that would be sick as hell

[main walrus]

i mean currently its a victimless crime. Once PVP and such is back i see how it can affect the game negatively, but currently u only cheat urself.

[smoky swallow]

It's not victimless when PvE events are ranked

If someone was going to get #1, but a macro user beats them, they were a victim

[remote pond]

Man PvE event sounds like a torture

That’s why just implement auto battles at this point if you gonna care so much about macro users

Enough games does that already

[main walrus]

I get what u mean. Tho even then, you dont get a actual advantage from being at the top of the leaderboard. The cheaters performance does not impact your performance and therefore doesnt impact the rewards u get (If we talking about BS). This isnt a excuse for macroing/cheating tho, doing so should be punished heavily - especially in ranked PvE events such as BS.

[remote pond]

I wouldn’t say BS can be macro’d as of this stage

Unless you have bazillions of money to spare

[smoky swallow]

It absolutely does impact performance, as it would take your chance to be #1 away

[remote pond]

Just nano the donation resources

[main walrus]

I disagree somewhat, the game would lose some of its personality doing so. They just have to rework the damn SP economy.

[remote pond]

Auto click macro to Nano the donation resource

[smoky swallow]

Cheating can also cause a guild rank or tier to go up, literally effecting rewards

[remote pond]

Yeah tbf tho we used to be able to occupy guild mate bases for SP

With wimps and lt dragoons

[smoky swallow]

Yes, it absolutely can. The devs just have cheat detection methods in place

[remote pond]

I wouldn’t say we need auto battles if we have that plus the sp booster again

[main walrus]

Yes absolutely, but you dont get less T10 Units because of this, as its solely based on ur Guilds prformance, or are we talking about different things?
BTW i understand youre quite competitive and this position means a lot, im strictly talking about resources tho.

[remote pond]

Yeah well if people are rich enough

How about I buy slaves to do my boss strikes so I don’t have to macro

They can grind sp too

[main walrus]

Macro'ing is extremely easy, especially as AI can write u entire scripts without even having to learn a scripting language anymore

[remote pond]

For a loaf of bread and glass of water

[main walrus]

💀 IRL Scripting lmao

[remote pond]

But yeah auto battles would be a good idea if sp economy is gonna be like this
Otherwise bring back sp boosters and occupying bases for sp

[smoky swallow]

BS is a competitive event, people spend real money to improve their ranks in game for bragging rights

Someone cheating takes away their legit win

[smoky swallow]

You don't need to be rich, you can macro F2P units all the same

[remote pond]

Maybe

Yeah I guess you can full on macro at lower rank lose less even

Anyways we got a little side tracked here

I still want my default attack

Idc if macro people abuse it

I want it

[main walrus]

BS is somewhat competitive. It doesnt take skill whatsoever tho. All it takes to be top one is either a HUGE wallet, or a decently big wallet and a lot of time. Specifically the last BS was entirely luck. Either u had a frag or u didnt, right? I personally think this isnt something to brag about, imo it should be something to enjoy as a guild together, but thats a entirely different topic.
But in regards to cheating, yea it possibly could cost u ur rank 1 in future BS events. Tho im almost certain madrona keeps a keen eye on the top guilds and players. In the end cheaters are gonna cheat no matter what. Implementing/keeping preventive measures at the cost of convenience seems like the wrong move imo.

[versed flame]

auto battleing in BN would suck

too much rng that would make it borderline nonfunctional in many cases, especially something like BS.

It would require a massive maount of dev time that would be better spent implementing boosts or lower SP costs, otherwise increasing SP gains, or many other things

[torpid badger]

it also just flat out removes one of the two main things you do in this game

you battle (battle) and you nations (build base)

also on the macro thing: you cant really stop people from making macros for auto battling without making the game borderline unplayable

e.g. image recognition, pixel detection

[main walrus]

I just think we need a new raidable location that provides adequate XP for ranking units to R6. R5 feels mostly fair at BFC, R6 sucks for many units

[versed flame]

it only gets worse

looks at plasma units

[remote pond]

Idc bro give me default attack 🥀

[torpid badger]

legendary mammoth type beat

[versed flame]

we need something with 10x Bigfoots sp for that

[main walrus]

i think 4x d be enough. difference between r5 and r6 Vets is a 4x in XP no?

3x actually

[versed flame]

Plasma units are about 4x Vet SP

[remote pond]

Wrong Channel twin

[main walrus]

xd im sorry

[torpid badger]

any suggestion that related to (current) endgame content inevitably derails into bs and sp

[remote pond]

True

I just want my default attack so I can grind bfc without killing myself bro

Me when I select my ranged fragment and blasts a single target attack

[fading zealot]

Auto battle would suck, that's the point. You would only use it if you have a guaranteed win like in say, sp grinding Wimps with aircraft or just stomping the raider farms

And it would make that part of the game so, so much better while providing cool visuals

It's Battle Nations, not Grind Nations

[crisp badger]

Id argue that Madrona should make macroing easier so they can catch more ppl that try

[remote pond]

Yeah so why don’t we just make life a little easier for people that’s actually putting their time and efforts into grinding by implementing default attack

And no macro and anti cheat system is completely different thing here because I just want default attack you people go ask devs for anti cheat elsewhere 💔

[fading zealot]

Oh ya right, this is the thread for the default attack

[remote pond]

Surely this falls under same category as the restart battle button

[remote pond]

They did not give us this in the recent update