#3 Unit drops for all non-T10 Units
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hopefully soon

Plasma has cool animations and all water guns
Its not game breaking
convert plasma to legendary critters
no, u will like 1 at a time, u will like it very well
Question
f2p mass producable LSW
How does the legendary critter rank among our current roster
Not counting lsw
Cuz
1
mammoth f2p genius milky boi
Legendary Sandworm made me quit tbh
Yea lsw is banned
and its still much better than any unit we have
How about the rest
leg. mammoth
Never saw anyone use em
or bust
Nah just save it for like lvl 85-90
Boar causes cold damage iirc
Legendary boar is actually not that crazy if we got it at lvl 70
i think that
if u made a lot of the critters have to be in the front line
like most other critter units
log > artillery shells
they wouldn't be AS insane
Again end game BN is just "who wipes the board?"
but being able to slap them in 3rd row
I think overall the OP units were too strong for the prior game cap, but with more levels and new content it will even things out
while being a mega tank
Probably get rid of shell tho
What even is that
will allow old units to come back
400% damage increase status effect @cerulean ice
its like
a burn
but the next attack does 4x damage
i believe
Weapon tech was honestly not bad just bring it back at 70
š£
LOL

we;re at 1k bois, keepit up
Anyways yes make all non tier 10 rewards 3 of each
1722 dot what the
Makes grinding the units a lot easier and less of a pain
uncap
Especially with no sp boosts
better spam the devs in DG
keep the flame bright
keep the light shining
because thats when the difficulty spike happens
No one talks ill in Dono Gen
nah, ull get 60 cap and ull like it

But also it's all John Pork
whos the culprit
yes
60 is harder but u get suburuban houses
Random MM members
harder bosses
Not worth
Prestige is only used for radio anyway
railgun tech = glass cannon
gonna make my BS clears super fast
but i need like
100 of em
how do we feel about solar plants
so excited
I HATE SHOPS
for prestige
leveling is fine
but for prestige its such a slog
2500xp for 3 pop every 24 hrs
I find no joy in going to base and mindlessly clicking on things, should just make most the base auto
Nah they can keep most of the level caps they just gotta give us more levels which should be soon
Its the same as 56 but yes naval bosses get harder but not terrible
Bc-1 cobra being uncapped at 61 kinda dumb tho that should be 51 like the snake
PLSSSSSSSS
Getting cobra after the snake
45 Nanos is an actual travesty
What's the point of having units that are pale imitations of other units already released, which are ridiculous in every way by comparison ? Especially since the unit has to be rank up from scratch. This kind of unit shouldnāt even be re-released, just because itās a unit from the original version doesnāt mean we have to include them all in the current game (as evidenced by the promotional units, which arenāt there and may never be for some of them).
Iām guessing so F2P has something to help against AS (if there wasnāt a level cap) but my issue is by the time we got the cobra in the OG, Wild boar was already out like two BS before that.
cant even help since its capped to 60

BN players be so greedy bruh š«
Nah itās just most of us was tired of Z2 bs back than so now that Madrona is trying to bring everything back like it use to be we donāt want the same stuff to repeat.
imo bs2 is too early for another round of snakes but I also hope Madrona doesn't set a precedent that boss strike units are sacred. Most of the prize pool is filler and its going to suck big time if the good units don't return for more than a year or not at all
3 chunook could work against as
true
having 3 is objectively more fun
in the game
At this rate if they give us 4-5 units every 3 months for strikes it shouldn't take forever for getting the good stuff
than having 1
Probably Halloween tbh
Ohh I see nvm same thing
Ngl it would be a bit jarring going from possibly rebel bs to an infected bs
Its too easy
And the rewards are not that good
That was what happened back then too though
i mean if we go from rebels bs to another bs
its really gonna be easy
cuz rebels the peak
unless...
LOVE me some apex infected
apex colossus my beloved
give me some critical hit spikes
i need it
that stalker

i need it too
give it up
yum yum
everytime this argument is made I would like to remind the poster that there is a spectrum between giving f2p nothing and giving them the everything in the game for free. for f2p rn it is barely a tick above nothing.
what f2p wants are nanopods and units that can deal with Ancient Sentinel, the former being used to buy the latter.
this boss strike gives them neither. 45 nanos is a far cry from what z2 gave every month (140 nanos in bs, sometimes other events giving 40-50). The units will be an active detriment vs AS, even cobra (bringing them actively sabotages an AS formation).
Madrona did make good steps in giving out a lot more units, but you need to recognize that f2p who have no snake or nanos have not received any helpful reward towards their pursuit.
I do have the nanos to get what I want, and I assume you do too. but the majority of players do not want to be compelled to have to spend for any progress in the game, and these bs rewards has squeezed them tighter (45 nanos for 3 months vs 140 per month in z2 times) to give out more novelty units for whales to play with.
Apex Mauler!
excluding pvp nanos too
I forgot that, didnt z2 remove that early on?
nah i think that was in the game permanently
I see
you had a % chance to get nanos after 40vp points daily
i think it averaged out to a couple nanos a day
Madrona will never let that slide
Lower level players got more nanos on average from pvp iirc
uh\
i think the odds were all the same
just higher chances for lower amounts
if that makes sense
ye
i meant like
the daily nano odds
like your on average getting the same no matter ur rank
or wait
no
Madrona saw ppl make 20 nanos during the infected invasion and got real scared nanos sales going to go into a bottomless pit
time to make bs once a year with 3 nano reward total
2$ worth of nanos got to their bottomline
yeah so it just went up in level

One thing that you should point out is that a Super tank costs 70 Nanos.
And the Boss Strike only gives 45.
A Free to play Player would have to go through two Boss Strikes (a possible total of six months) just to get a SINGLE Super Tank, a unit that many consider as pretty much mandatory
And that's not counting other important Nano units like M-10s or Veterans
Because let's face it, not every new player is gonna know what Nano units to save up for
Or just have very loose fingers
(me)
they can buy 1 heavy and 10 hours worth of speed ups at least 
Except the Heavy is still not going to be as effective as a Super Tank
at the very least an jncrease in nanos would probably be good
brother 20 gears when introduced for it
We're talking about efficiency, not affordability
it sucks
Given the inferior stats
huh
You'll be draining way more resources with a Heavy tank
A single Heavy costs 20 Gears
also costs gears to repair

eradicate him
Can't really blame us though
The topic was the Super Tank
When you just say Heavy, of course the first thing we'll think is the Heavy Tank
Especially when the TF2 heavy loses its meatshield viability by the time you use Supers
topic was 45 nanos, heavy is a nano unit

45 nanos wouldnt be able to buy 20 gears for a heavy tank
The topic was a very important Frontline unit needing six months for 2 BS to buy
?
Yes, but the TF2 heavy is not relevant to this conversation
Especially when people tend to need Supers for their Durability
I believe Dave there was supporting your point through the use of a joke
ggwp
Apologies
dont worry we all bait down here
Speaking of
š
It's funny how there's so many missing units in the game
Wiki showcases a Trooper with a shotgun and a Medic
And the trailer for TF2 Collab has Sniper
Yet there's no Sniper
prob because we already had so many sniper units
Are the super and heavier not practically the same for the front row?
Also hit T10 and you get a variable front row option for 99% of your encounters
they basically are
supers just repair cheaper
Also if really wanted nanos the same people crying now could of made over 100 last weekend
If they wanted to buff cobra, switch it to T7 or even T9?
Not every reward needs to be as strong as each over
Definitely not as strong, but probably something similar to like a super vs mega tank comparison
its just cooked that its the only nano reward and its 45
increasing it to 90 doesnt lose z3 much at all

esp. if we will get bs every 3-4 months or so, this is just paltry nanos
I doubt any of the people complaining about nanos tried making very many last weekend
Ive seen a few f2p people grind 1-200 nanos just last weekend alone from the event 
i myself grinded a lot last infected weekend, and even I dont think this amount of nanos is enough
But yeah they should bump up the amount of nanos
you can read what others think about it at the top
its not like im the only to think this way

We got 90-100 nanos from events monthly back in OG so it should make sense to at least double it every strike
true
regressing rewards is just such a bad play

Should even make it something like 270 nanos
As FTP I am happy with getting nanos at all right now. So I really appreciate having so many donors and PTP players going up to bat for us
Playing devils advocate here;
Z2 didn't randomly give nanopods out via an in-game mail system
Z2 never made infected rates spawn more and drop more (but I also don't remember getting the usual lowball rates...)
Getting free nanos now, makes me more likely to purchase nanos in the future.
I think nanos were a little more abundant back in the day than they are now
Due to Tapjoy & ad options yes. Z2 Themselves however didn't really give em away spare BS
I made a killing off of Tapjoy

More likes please
Way more abundant
You know whatās less abundant tho
My time
But I need to spend 500 hours grinding everything. I swear the OG game wasnāt 99% BFC grinding
PvP and invasions helped with that I guess idk
And SP boosts
They should let you auto rank units with nanos
Boom more money for Madrona and more time for me
It wasnt we used occupations for sp
They'd have SP boost weekends
Just random SP boosts, helped out a looot.
I agree, please give us 3 copies, whatās the point of only having 1 and cutting the nanos too š
Losing Strat, lsw is not coming back for a long time and when it does come back itāll be nerfed
Everything is a losing strat when it comes to the AS
But yeah, 3x of each unit and more nanos for the ftp so they can buy something nice
Not even enough for a Bronzed Sandworm deco
If thatās the case how come Iāve beaten it like 10+ times
Bc you either joned a guild that was fortunate to hit tier 11+ or spent a million hours mindlessly grindingBFC
Brother you have mega tanks and vets
The bfc grind is not as bad as you think
Game used to be bifurcated into nano buyers vs FTP now itās people with/ without snakes
Iāll even drop my sick grinding playlist so you can enjoy the grind
The grind is awful
I think with 3 max level chinooks max level radio tech max level trebs and max level heaviers
AS is beatable
If Iām doing something that isnāt fun Iād like to get a tangible reward from it. Whether thatās doing chores or working or jogging etc. I gain nothing from BFC grind and itās boring
lol good luck getting the people that spend 20-30 hours there a week to advocate to change the system
Thereās a gross imbalance to the time cost associated with r6 units and the benefit derived from unlocking them. My hypothesis is that this will ultimately lead to a mass exodus of players
Humans in general are more impatient than theyāve ever been
I have a strat that might work, but I have to prestige 3 more times before trying it ā ļø and itās a slow grind since I donāt have premium stuff for xp š Iāll share it if it works but give me a month or two
So thatās a no on the playlist then
But patience isnāt an issue when thereās a solid benefit. Not the case here. And then thereās the money needed for vets/ megas in the first place
Is it all F2P no snakes
So to beat the AS, and gain a 3% chance of a reward, you need $X dollars and X hours invested into the game
Remember only 1 radio tech per battle
It just doesnāt make sense. Itās like if someone took a job making .00001 cents an hour
Yeah, all f2p. But it should also help if you have 1 or 2 snakes. Weāve gotten close but the radio tech should remedy that issue. Iām hoping it succeeds at least since we had a couple of f2p players that havenāt beaten it yet
Yes š«”
I spent my prestige on academy, silo, tech, and a tree
Prestige well spent I may say
The tree is kinda sick
I mean
14 hours for R9 snakes
Like 10-12 for vets and tanks
And thatās about it
1-2 full days of grinding for a 5.91% chance to get the strongest units in the game every 5.5 days
The bigger issue is that there are players that can grind every unit to max and still canāt beat AS
even just 2 ofs for the ones that aren't t10 or already 3 ofs would be huge even if just to incentivize using the units more
should get nanos equivalent to what we'd have if we had boss strikes every month at 80 nanos like BS1, so 240 or at least 170+
thats if u solo train the snake (which most ppl cant cause they only have 1) and if u rush the promos
not complaining about the grind tbh, i think its fine. i just feel like most ppl in this discord are very active ptp players in competitive guilds who arent fully aware of how the game plays for most casual players
im not alone in thinking that the aerobike kinda sucks, right?
I also manage 320 not competitive players
So I get it
Yes
yeahhhā¦
As someone who did the latter, vets get marginally better dodging, but megas gain just a little more health and damage.
I do agree current AS is behind either a paywall or Snakes and its not the best experience. Even with R6 everything, it takes 30-40 minutes of resetting the fight for the most ideal circumstances: Vet dodges everything until end of fight & Megas crit alot
Also, megas at BFC take about 10hrs total for R6 (around 1 hr plus a few minutes per bar)
pls replace the cobra with wildboars :) and the aero bike with boar II :)
Calm down thunder bird
The time isnāt ripe just yet
Replace the thresher with either of those
one can dream š
We gotta keep this on top so alex can see
Even with maxed treb, radio tech, 1 snake, mega and vet max AS is still really hard to win its a gamble everything get almost 2 shots
And my vet almost never dodge :/
Lock in good feller
Yeah but with a lot and costly casualties
Total goodfellas domination
He is Pickliam and he endorses this message.
I wonder if the devs are over it
With me always begging for free stuff
Lowkey a nuisance
When you return from WW3 with ptsd and the VA deems it not service related, these skills will serve you well
...
Yeah that tracks o.O
Cause I fly Stockholm to LA, in my feelings on the plane
Worries fade away when I hit the stage
I've been tourin' stateside, kissin' my Swedish boy over FaceTime
Who knew, openin' up would make me a headline?
Boots, that's my ego boost, schedule ain't been loose for a minute
Yeah, I'm that girl, I've been it
Aghhh
Ahhhhhh
Ahhhhhhh
Give tier 3, 7, 10 3x and any tier above it either an extra t10 units or big nano rewards so that those who hit 10 by then end will be fine and not get screwed over too hard by others who has more than 1 copy
The BeggarFellas
You shouldn't be using vets at all if you have radio tech megas and treb maxxed tbh
You should always run vets for the frontline dodge defense
alex
Haven't needed them for 3 runs now
Not so much about need as much as it is about win percentage and loss reduction. Both MM and HSC ran millions of battles in sim to derive conclusions not otherwise possible by merely playing the game
That's great but I like not relying on vets dodging š
Yes this is a great idea thank you Pickleliam
They could also just scrap the cobra and aerobike and give us 3 chinooks and another nanopod tier.
keep the cobra since it is pretty good AA
Cobra doesnāt hit air unless the wiki is wrong
Sky raptor is probably what youāre thinking of.
+1 to @rose nacelle for the good suggestion. I agree completely.
Welp I tried but atleast we got more nanos
i feel like the donators suggestion channel is weighed more heavily anyhow -w-;;
We could have 600 upvotes but I donāt think itās gonna make a difference
This is such a common misconception⦠99% its just ragebaiting and trolling
Everyone is unserious in there
They are giving us SO many units this time around I canāt see them making it 3x especially that it is official now
Yeah agreed
[also i heard the 45 nanos was intended for the raptor sling upgrade for the trebuchet...?]
still feel like it could be better but eh
aint bad
we finally get DA TANK
Its gonna be worse when we get another aerobike and chinook and you will have 2 of each overall⦠will kill my OCD.
I hope we can delete units by then.
Yeah I already knew when they made an active effort to do 3x for some units and 1x for others
That this wasnāt gonna work
Didnāt hurt to ask
Iām in there. They donāt care
yeaahhhhh figures
It just sucks cause whatās the point of grinding 1 individual unit. Itās not like having extras changes much
It was a valiant effort
Indeed it is
@rose nacelle ggs
Sybau
we havenāt actually got a suggestions channel
news, general, separate bug reports, off topic, feedback for sneak peaks, and 2 VCs
No suggestions channel, so it isnāt like they ignore this one
They read thoroughly to stuff when able but simply choose what to respond to or not. It's unknown if stuff is logged or anything.
Cant they change it directly in game?
Swapping vials for nanos tho is a tough one
Like Iāll take it but vials in the pre 45 levels are in short supply
vials may be in short supply, but they're also in short use
Wimp attack, light chems..... and that's abt it
hvy chem repair maybe?
they lowkey got AOE-Mogged by Maulers though, I think they're only strictly better in formations that are weak to fire and low on blocking
ill take the nanos over vials 100%
im not as rich as others tho, so that may be biased in that sense

I do see why they don't want to give more units given how many we are getting, but I think it would be best to remove either the T16 or the Chunook and add one copy to the other. Ranking 1 copy of a unit with such heavy SP requirements is such a pain. Two copies or three is more manageable
remove aero bike give me 3 chunooks
Yeah, I too would yeet the T16
also cobras being named cobras but being the most dogsht snake impostors is crazy

Yeah they should at least give it the B10 II treatment and make it a side grade
Hey at least they removed the lvl 61 rank š
Atleast 2 chunooks are needed if 3 is deemed too much
They should be named the worm

