Make the next boss strike lineup difficulty the same for lvls 51-55 and 56 (51-55 difficulty at 56)

[echo grotto]

Historically there has always been a decently-sized jump in enemy wave difficulty going from lvl 51-55 to 56-60. This has led to some people deciding to hold off on leveling up to 56 so that if they keep the difficulty scaling they will have quite the advantage over players that actually leveled through 56 despite 56-60 waves giving a bit more points. The game shouldn’t be structured to where holding yourself back allows you to do better in other game modes

I propose we make the boss strike difficulty the same for both level brackets, as currently this will only discourage player progression in game in order to make it easier for themselves when the point of the game is to not stall progress. Either make 51-55 as difficult as for 56 players or make 56 as easy as 51-55, and if we are gonna choose between both then I would vote making 56 fight the 51-55 lineups to make it a bit easier for free 2 play players.

After this strike though we can go back to the usual lvl bracket scaling, I just felt this would be important to change for this boss strike specifically as having the lvl cap be right at 56 makes it a bit wonky for the strike. Hopefully the devs see this and can take it into consideration or give their insight on this matter.

[supple jolt]

Yes, i think a lot of casual players reached lvl 56 just for the radio tech. And now they are probably under-equipped for lvl 56 formations 💀

[merry minnow]

Thanks for speaking up for F2P player like me.

[echo grotto]

Yeah I cant lie most of them are cooked if theyre 56 even with prestige units available

[dense sonnet]

The free to play life is tough

We would know

[jagged sonnet]

While I like this suggestion, I don’t think it’ll get implemented this boss strike since there hasn’t been any word on it yet

[echo grotto]

Thats why I figured it should either be the same difficulty as 51-55 waves or at the very least bump up the points earned from lvl 56 waves to actually make it worth going to lvl 56 for the strike

[jagged sonnet]

It does feel weird that you kinda get punished for pushing to 56

[echo grotto]

All they have to do is add 56 to the lvl 51-55 bracket. I dont think it could be that difficult to do with us having about a month till the strike

[jagged sonnet]

Hey I’m on your side here, I would love for this to be added

Gives f2ps a way to farm gears at NH without having to stress over the level 60 formations of boss strike

And lets them get RT and start stacking prestige stars for suburbans

[dapper hornet]

56 isn't a awkward lvl to stop at, the only unit till lvl60 that's missing is railgun tech

[echo grotto]

This is another reason why they should change it at least just for this strike is it will mess with f2ps ability to prestige since theyll be in fear of getting killed during the strike vs thise why stayed at 55

[echo grotto]

Its awkward because despite us getting a bit of a boost to points, the average lineups health wise are higher than the increase in points per wave

[supple jolt]

Any shrow formation with environmental dot is going to be brutal at this bracket, unless you have multiple AS frags

[echo grotto]

That's why some people are staying at 55

[jagged sonnet]

I have a melee and I’m worried about this boss strike

[dapper hornet]

They willingly went to lvl56 with all the info available

[supple jolt]

Heck, even I am worried with my ranged frag

[jagged sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-arnold-schwarzenegger-carl-weathers-gif-17765053

[echo grotto]

Yes but it screws over free 2 play who needed to prestige to beat the sentinel

[dapper hornet]

Everyone knew what was available at lvl56, and that the difficulty bracket would go up

Ignorance is voluntary

[jagged sonnet]

That is a hell of a statement

[dapper hornet]

You don't need to prestige to beat the AS

[echo grotto]

We are aware, the problem is it stunts development for casual players, and for players that went to 56 we are getting a net negative on points

[dapper dawn]

well technically ... all is available on the wiki

[echo grotto]

I agree but theres a reason they rushed out prestige was for those that didnt get snakes

[dapper dawn]

so ignorant is bliss... until it turn into Blizard cold DOT

[elfin heart]

Have a feeling this will be a new war zone

[dapper hornet]

You can see the barracks and VF unit unlocks in game

No excuse for not looking

[jagged sonnet]

People shouldn’t be punished for wanting to explore prestige and barely leaving the 50-55 bracket

[dapper hornet]

And it was unnecessary if proper planning was used

[supple jolt]

Agreed

[night spade]

No the level 56 boss strike is the same, it’s definitely not worth staying at level 55

[jagged sonnet]

Prestige was pretty hyped up and anticipated

[dapper hornet]

Curiosity killed the cat

[jagged sonnet]

Yet here you are

[echo grotto]

Cant exactly do that if those players were not here during the strike or happened to be in a weak guild

[night spade]

Schadenfreude

It’s a new word he learned yesterday

[jagged sonnet]

I’m so proud

[mossy prawn]

i’m sure this suggestion will contain calm and rational discussion. Surely it won’t descend into bickering and arguments

[elfin heart]

That is an interesting word xd

[night spade]

Okay that’s it

[echo grotto]

In the end there should be no reason to be at an advantage for not progressing through the game. Thats not the design that was intended. More difficult yes, but its supposed to be more rewarding too

[dapper hornet]

You could also buy vets with the free nanos and do it

[night spade]

I’m holding a literature class in VV

[elfin heart]

[dapper hornet]

This literally also happened in OG BN

[dapper dawn]

im not sure who hype about a memecademy that have barely 2 units worth getting?
i will say is people wanting to stack star for Suburban is the most

[night spade]

You’re all going to learn some words that you should know

[dapper hornet]

Holding off lvl caps is a old strat

[jagged sonnet]

I’m tempted to say some of them now xD

[dapper hornet]

Not new at all

[echo grotto]

It just doesnt sound right at all. The game design is essentially encouraging to not progress and play the game

[dapper hornet]

It's encouraging planning and good decision making

[jagged sonnet]

People were very excited when it was being discussed, not sure how you could miss it

[night spade]

But but my very worth Peacemaker

[lime raptor]

Did someone say drama

[echo grotto]

And yes I know it was in the old game but we had promos then so there was no disadvantage to being at a higher level

[dapper hornet]

Yes, there was

[dapper dawn]

look i love Peace Maker to death, it will be my first born child but i sure as hell wasnt excited

[jagged sonnet]

This’ll feed dono general for weeks brother

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/bobithememelord-crypto-tokeowallet-tokeopaywallet-tokeopay-gif-17126253037215556869

[elfin heart]

2k messages when

Lets bet how long it’ll take

[dapper hornet]

The same strat existed in OG, you just don't remember @echo grotto

[lime raptor]

Who is the cause

[night spade]

F2P people in the old game when they could’ve just had more promo units during BS1

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-react-this-user-pregnant-man-gif-7314513712895381143

[night spade]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[jagged sonnet]

Just because you might not have been excited doesn’t mean 100 people share your opinions

[echo grotto]

Was not nearly as widespread as it will be now. The gap is much larger without promos

[night spade]

I’m pretty sure we can find 100 people though

[jagged sonnet]

1 hour, 1.5 maybe

[night spade]

Pretty easily as well

[elfin heart]

Sounds about right xd

[jagged sonnet]

I think you’re missing my point

[dense sonnet]

Are we arguing yet?

[lime raptor]

Someone give the a tldr

[dapper hornet]

Then plan better?

[echo grotto]

Also this game is in a more fragile state to where theres gotta be some concessions for f2p

[dapper hornet]

I don't get it

[night spade]

“Boohoo”

[elfin heart]

Level 55 vs level 56

Idk either

[echo grotto]

Im not speaking for us comp players

[dapper hornet]

I have tons of sympathy for F2P, but very little for poor planning

[echo grotto]

This is mainly an issue for more casual players

[night spade]

Again, boss strikes aren’t mandatory

[lime raptor]

Skill issue

[elfin heart]

[jagged sonnet]

Its kind of insane that wanting to explore the new content and getting punished for it is a hot take

[ebon glade]

1 hour 👁️👁️

[jagged sonnet]

But that might just be me

[night spade]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-thats-my-line-my-line-shrek-forever-after-gif-22134218

[echo grotto]

This is exactly my point. It should be harder but the rewards should be increased as much too

[dapper hornet]

They want the lvl50 difficulty bracket at 56 to breeze through for free rewards

[dense sonnet]

I have no sympathy for frag Havers. I vote against whatever spartan wants

[night spade]

If you’re really struggling

[echo grotto]

We could just make 51-55 as hard as 56 but I figured that would be worse

[night spade]

Just get a level 12 wimp account

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[dapper hornet]

"If i can't have it, nobody that planned better can"

[night spade]

You won’t have any easier boss strikes than a level 12 R6 wimp account

[dapper hornet]

Sounds like whining

[dapper dawn]

yes generally people are excited because Radio in turn that could be AS kill for f2p. That literally the "hype" . But what do i know, i find mostly what offer in the academy is "skin" units not even useful ( again exclude Radio )

[lime raptor]

If you levelled up you got nice things like new haven, its a you issue at that point

Ill pregnant react any person who disagrees

[elfin heart]

[night spade]

Woah

[solar plover]

If you look at it this way all the ppl who decided to be below 56 are also punished for not exploring having these units

[mossy prawn]

I think purposefully stunting account progress to benefit you in other modes is poor game design

even though i’m taking advantage of it

[night spade]

Close save there drip

[lime raptor]

I just realise that was so close to impregnate

[echo grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-thank-you-gif-4688221

[lime raptor]

Im fast af boy

[elfin heart]

[night spade]

I almost got the screenshot

[lime raptor]

Im too quick

https://tenor.com/view/fast-running-gif-27100967

[jagged sonnet]

And I think that is not the way the game should play

[elfin heart]

Maybe you should’ve kept it, would’ve been another sticker in HSC

[night spade]

You’re in HSC

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[jagged sonnet]

Sorry for the ping ookli, but you said it better than I did

[jagged sonnet]

Okay…?

[night spade]

You by default are benefiting from excessive pre-planning

[supple jolt]

😂

[mossy prawn]

I don’t think “well they could’ve figured it out themselves” is a great argument either since the decision is irreversible if you didn’t know the consequences beforehand

[jagged sonnet]

See ooklis comment above

[supple jolt]

I agree with this

[jagged sonnet]

@night spade this one

[mossy prawn]

especially when a new game function (prestige) is essentially used as bait to entice people to level up (from a level 55s perspective)

[night spade]

Oh I know which one you meant

[jagged sonnet]

Drip when I catch you

[elfin heart]

[night spade]

I’m not fully agreeing with you

[jagged sonnet]

I’m going to make you into Popeyes

[lime raptor]

What i do

[jagged sonnet]

I know

[night spade]

Lots of games have this mechanic

[echo grotto]

Even then why are we only getting like 17% more boss strike points per wave when the average wave health goes up by 20-25%. Both should reflect one another

[dapper hornet]

100% agree, taking the benefits and asking for no cost at all is such a "skill issue" situation

[dapper dawn]

Popeyes? why not Shreaded chicken ? <(")

[night spade]

In RuneScape there’s even a whole sub-genre of types of “stunted” accounts to fill extreme niches

[echo grotto]

If enemy health goes up 30% then points per wave should go up 30%

[lime raptor]

Oh wait you agreed

[jagged sonnet]

We can split him and have a cook off

[lime raptor]

Ill unpregnant you

[mossy prawn]

the reward for leveling up in this game shouldnt be weighted against lower levels

[jagged sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-elves-elf-wizard-gif-10821637684673144519

[mossy prawn]

you should be enticed to level up always, not stunt yourself

[elfin heart]

Question: isn’t 50-51 way worse for this? Because the jump from half elites to full elites is bigger than 55-56

[lime raptor]

We dont talk about stunted you'll upset spud

[night spade]

The issue isn’t really in stunting growth though

[jagged sonnet]

Not you too man

[dapper hornet]

The idea that you want infinite gears through NH and easy BS runs, just play nintendogs or something where you can't lose

[night spade]

The real issue here is how this game scales against our units

[echo grotto]

I think the point is the increase in points does not scale properly to increase in difficulty when it should be the same

[elfin heart]

Nerf mauler

[dapper hornet]

Infinite gears and still complaining about difficulty is interesting

[lime raptor]

I got 89 on Braintrain earlier

[jagged sonnet]

Watch us have this discussion and it’s just Vogel xD

[dense sonnet]

Deal

Buff laser tank

[merry minnow]

I'm not.

[elfin heart]

Shouldn’t the bigger complaint be about 50-51 then? That’s more egregious

[mossy prawn]

This trade-off system shouldnt even exist when the way you trigger it is an irreversible decision

[misty gull]

The Chunook does not concern itself with the gear

[dapper dawn]

then no Tier will be safe, we are cooked

[mossy prawn]

at that point just put a pop up on screen tbat says “infinite gears or easier strike”

[dapper hornet]

Good, that will be awful, and i'm one of the only people that could survive it

[elfin heart]

[jagged sonnet]

This reminded me of the tiktok draft guy lol

[misty gull]

Someone come by my house in a chunook and shoot me in the foot with the shotgun

[elfin heart]

Spartan’s never beating the greed allegation

[night spade]

I disagree with the sentiment that “level 56 scaling is unfair because other people stayed level 55 just for Boss Strike” it’s more that I dislike how when we don’t get much units that are capable of dealing with such waves of enemies we are still thrown into it and the units that equalize it a little are locked behind pure luck

[jagged sonnet]

Can I keep the foot

[night spade]

-500 HP and -40% damage

[elfin heart]

Okay

[jagged sonnet]

Let’s go bois

[elfin heart]

My frags will carry me

[night spade]

So you’re gonna do my 3m points as well?

[echo grotto]

Im very curious to see what the devs think of this

[elfin heart]

Nuh uh that’s your own quota

Better figure out a way :3

[silk ridge]

Or give the meme academy units a >25% dmg boost
-# add it to radio, railgun, plasma tech and Spiderwasp too just for lols. Las gun deserve a bonus 1000% tho

[lime raptor]

They wont see it

All they see is pregnant men

[night spade]

Getting in a call with my gf

[jagged sonnet]

I’m cautiously optimistic, but recently some dev behavior has made me a bit cautious towards them

[lime raptor]

🫃

[solar plover]

it is not the right way to play, however then how do we compensate people who did properly plan for future events? there's no crying over spilt milk,

[echo grotto]

If it keeps getting the attention it has been currently then theres a chance

[dapper dawn]

will not fix the uselessness

[silk ridge]

But I don’t want to play RuneScape

[misty gull]

Honestly just give 56+ two layouts without chinooks

Like 55

[mossy prawn]

the bigger issue here is just the same issue that’s plagued the game since the start: Not enough strong units to compensate

[solar plover]

anything above your height makes u cautious so all u gotta be is over like 5 foot 6 or smth

[olive basalt]

That isn’t true, I went to 56 before the strike was announced. Alex had jokingly said at one point they’d be lucky to get the strike out by June, we had no way of knowing that 56 was definitively the stopping point before bs2

[mossy prawn]

“use this 1 unit or get fukked”

[solar plover]

not a tall order

[mossy prawn]

PWX spotted

[night spade]

I mean you don’t have to, but just to say that it’s not bad game design

[misty gull]

You’re not gonna enjoy tanks + maulers for 4 days straight?

[jagged sonnet]

In the big 2026?

Infected boss strike irl

[dapper dawn]

there was a vote for BS2 to be in March
and well it happening just like the vote dictated

[elfin heart]

Just use frags wdym

[mossy prawn]

oh I will, but i don’t want that forever

[echo grotto]

Hopefully with the amount of time left before the next strike will encourage them to consider it

[misty gull]

I hope you have nightmares of howlers and alpha trucks and chinooks

[ebon glade]

We also had no way of knowing because he then went on to say, “who said March, that was a sentiment poll” 🫠

[elfin heart]

[echo grotto]

True

[olive basalt]

How would F2P even be aware of this vote? I certainly wasn’t

[jagged sonnet]

My point is I’ve seen frankly terrible responses to good suggestions when people ask the devs so 🤷

[night spade]

But this is just inherently how BSx is currently, this is not a relevant discussion to what this suggestion is about. We can all agree BSx needs a rework

[mossy prawn]

that is NOT reliable information lmao

[dapper dawn]

well it happened just as voted

u tell me

[mossy prawn]

the devs themselves said that it wasn’t set in stone, they just wanted to gauge the community interest

[echo grotto]

Seems so far most people agree with this

[ebon glade]

Which was then followed by “sentiment poll” when people wanted clarification 😭

[dapper hornet]

Alex was just saying no promises, but community opinion was obviously being considered

[olive basalt]

Lmao I haven’t been here in a while

[misty gull]

Did the phone call thing say 2026?

[dapper hornet]

This isn't surprising at all

[jagged sonnet]

As I said I’m cautiously optimistic about it

[misty gull]

Prolly 2027

[night spade]

Keep it

[mossy prawn]

hindsight doesn’t change the fact that the DEVS said it wasn’t set in stone

[elfin heart]

2027 march it’s so joever lmao

[night spade]

Carry the legacy, the flame

[echo grotto]

Just gotta pray the devs see this soon 🙏

[olive basalt]

I shall

[elfin heart]

Time to brace for the 1 year content drought

[misty gull]

I’m ready

I’m staying at 55 the entire time

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/centurion-roman-cat-gif-801353929176301139

[dapper hornet]

Just make it pierce mod so the whole frontline dies on turn 2

[night spade]

Okay, finally a realistic timetable to get an AS drop

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/war-of-the-ages-cat-centurion-cat-centurion-cat-fight-gif-1741762862016554190

[jagged sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-2049-gif-7993237219332977809

[dapper dawn]

uhhhhhhhh 8th kill

[tight sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/idea-greatest-idea-my-life-rob-lowe-gif-14809820

[night spade]

Shush you

I’ll boop you on the snoot and rotate you Shork

[tight sundial]

Punish the cowards!

[misty gull]

I’m about to hit 40 bosses killed in 2026

No drops!

[dense sonnet]

Get back to grinding, your not beating me in your current state

[night spade]

Only 40

[misty gull]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-dunking-on-spiderman-gif-26119954

[arctic reef]

i hate this and disagree with this idea because he has an AS frag

mods shut this show down

[tight sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-victory-shall-yet-be-mine-mad-angry-gif-17495858

[misty gull]

I also haven’t gotten a boss drop since August of last year

But I didn’t keep track of how many that was

[night spade]

Our #1 defender of good ideas has arrived

[dense sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/me-mudae-trade-calcificados-handshake-gif-21323115

[jolly crest]

MM proposed this idea. Death.

[misty gull]

It’s a good thing my double drop is in the mail

[dapper dawn]

[arctic reef]

these frag users think they have good ideas and i'm sick of pretending its true

[dapper hornet]

This exact situation happened in OG with the same results

[night spade]

So true!

[dapper hornet]

Yet people are falling for it again

[echo grotto]

Hes actually in favor of making 51-55 fighting 56-60 waves

[night spade]

You tell em Brioche

[dapper dawn]

here my 2nd frag an hour ago <(")

for me

[elfin heart]

Salt in the wound

[jagged sonnet]

Sorry I don’t remember what happened in a mobile game when I was 11, I’ll do better next time

[arctic reef]

i can derail any thread thats my power

[arctic reef]

[silk ridge]

Aren’t the recent dev decisions good? (Infected event for more mauler/nano access, a bs “announcement” a whole month ahead, uh moving that poor guys stacked AC/AS)

[misty gull]

IMPART ONTO US YE KNOWLEDGE OF OLD, OH WISE ONE PLEASE BLESSETH US WITH YOUR WISDOM FOR WE ARE IGNORANT FOOLS IN YOUR MIDST

[jagged sonnet]

Hence the cautious optimism about it

[night spade]

That sounds nice but being better than fish sounds better and you still went with this power

[jagged sonnet]

There was just something that happened recently that rubbed me the wrong way

[olive basalt]

Excellently said. These waves were originally designed with promos we don’t have available

[dapper hornet]

Better than fish is outside of his power

[arctic reef]

we're on the same team now. funny how that worked out

[dapper dawn]

https://battlenations.miraheze.org/wiki
here thee knowledge you seek
read it <(")

[misty gull]

im blind

[elfin heart]

BN players aren’t beating the allegations

[dapper dawn]

yep

[dapper hornet]

I could cheer you up by posting frags

[dense sonnet]

The difference is negligible, brio and I are equals

[elfin heart]

That’s a step up, equals now :3

[dapper hornet]

You would diminish yourself that far?

[tight sundial]

Bum and bummer

[dense sonnet]

I don’t speak sub 18th

@elfin heart how are you today

[elfin heart]

Good, hbu :3

[dense sonnet]

Wonderful

[slender cipher]

[tight sundial]

Oh speaking of. @dense sonnet I don’t know what you were talking about in our private conversations… hikari doesn’t seem that bad

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[silk ridge]

🍿

[dense sonnet]

Private conversations? I would never dm someone as bad as you

[jagged sonnet]

Bait used to be believable

[lime raptor]

Ragebait is strong in this one

[dense sonnet]

Kratos is new to the game

[dapper dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/jebaited-low-quality-bait-wavy-man-gif-26402013

[night spade]

If you struggle

Just macro wimp runs

[elfin heart]

[night spade]

I’ll be enjoying my level 55 scaled BSx

[lime raptor]

Why stop at wimps?

[slender cipher]

Dw the boss strike won't count since it's not lossless duh

[misty gull]

heres a new one for you

[echo grotto]

Keep in mind someone who perfectly makes their lineup and max ranks everything at 56 is gonna score less than someone that stays at 55

[dense sonnet]

Well ofc

It doesn’t count as long as he isn’t first

[elfin heart]

New suggestion, make level 56 BS the 51-55 bracket for people with less than $30 spent to help F2Ps

[dapper hornet]

Of course Drip is well prepared, he's an HSC leader's daughter, canonically speaking

[dense sonnet]

I’m F2P

[misty gull]

honestly there are so many other issues in this game i just don't think i can care about some that only affects the top 100 players

[dapper dawn]

im f2p

[dense sonnet]

I’m only worried about the top 100 market

[misty gull]

plus this is just an effect of the root cause of us not being properly balanced

🤷

[elfin heart]

Fine I believe you

[night spade]

Now that’s something I can get behind

[mossy prawn]

75% of this games issue is that

[misty gull]

could i scoot in there at 300 dollars?

[misty gull]

exactly

[elfin heart]

Nuh uh

[misty gull]

we're talking about bandaids here

not medicine

[elfin heart]

This suggestion helps F2Ps only

[night spade]

Seeing how bad the F2P no snake AS experience is I support them getting a get out of jail card

[echo grotto]

The crazy thing is whales at 56 will still score noticeably less than those that stay at 55 even if both play the same hours and same number of units. Having maulers and frags before 56 makes the clears much faster, barely any healing, all while points per wave is barely less than 56

[jagged sonnet]

And 56-65 being nothingburgers besides suburban

[misty gull]

honestly suburban shoulda been 56

kinda tilted about that

[jagged sonnet]

Preaching to the choir

[misty gull]

but they say its "soon"

[elfin heart]

Suburban should’ve been 56 yeah

[misty gull]

WE CANT CHANGE THE ORIGINAL GAME GUYS

WE CANT

NO WAY

[mossy prawn]

they kinda need it 😭 ✌️

[jolly crest]

Is there actual disagreement here I can’t tell

[night spade]

Frick it, free promo units for everyone!!!

[echo grotto]

Big facts

[tight sundial]

Tell that to my 5 snakes

[jolly crest]

This just seems like a lot of yapping

[mossy prawn]

kinda

[elfin heart]

Exactly, so drop the level for people who’ve spent under $30 only

Nerfs whales and helps F2Ps, win-win!

[tight sundial]

Can we make it $40? Please

[mossy prawn]

[echo grotto]

Except it will just make whales at 55 do way better

[glossy oak]

mammoth patron makes a suggestion that affects max lvl players
gets 10 upvotes
immediate circular debate that lasts for 500+ messages
where have i seen this before

[jolly crest]

Death to mm. Simple as

[jagged sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[night spade]

Does this include Patreon or is that excluded due to how you needed Patreon for access before?

[elfin heart]

Isn’t your suggestion supposed to help F2Ps? I’m trying to help F2Ps here

[elfin heart]

Included obviously

[misty gull]

do you want a gavel or smtn

to like end a conversation

[glossy oak]

no its just

[solar plover]

its not helping their agenda, so opinion rejected

[chilly frost]

Honestly every video game should force you to read the wiki and have personal conversations with the devs to make any decisions

[glossy oak]

its kinda funny that this happens nearly every time

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rupaul-rupaulsdragrace

[jolly crest]

I feel bad for the people who’ve gotten lvl56 but have no infrastructure

[echo grotto]

It will help f2p while also encouraging players to not take advantage of the level system as it was unintentionally bad game design

[jolly crest]

Gonna get murdered this strike

[glossy oak]

TRUTH NUKE

[jagged sonnet]

Incorporate the wiki into the TOS

[misty gull]

i have a close personal relationship with the devs ( i read all of their messages and they don't know who i am)

all so i can play BS

[elfin heart]

So everyone spending under $30 will get the boost, helps F2Ps catch up to the whales too!

[glossy oak]

if you aren't spending more time on the wiki than playing the game, are you really playing the game?

[elfin heart]

Just add a link to the wiki in the settings bar

[jagged sonnet]

Wait I have a meme I need to cook up

[elfin heart]

Where they have the discord link

[jolly crest]

Must spend time on wiki to make this suggestion

[night spade]

Okay to be honest what is there to do in this game besides reading the wiki looking for advantages?

[echo grotto]

Youre not listening. Youre advocating making it harder for whales at 56 but not harder for whales at 55

[glossy oak]

i don't know much about other guilds but i agree with this for the sake of stirring up drama

[misty gull]

sitting at BFC clicking the same 5 buttons for 100 hours, DUH

[solar plover]

this is why we should all play dota 2 and spend 5hours a day reading a wiki to actually gain a competitive advantage against players 🤔

[elfin heart]

BFC mines

[night spade]

Yeah but do you truly look at the screen when you do that?

[misty gull]

im fully locked in

the whole time

never take your eye off the ball

[night spade]

Damn, your mental must be gone

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/crazy-crazy-dance-3

[night spade]

The electric bill in your head must be free

[dapper dawn]

yes, some game readin the wiki is the game

[elfin heart]

[rich creek]

https://tenor.com/view/μανταμφρικαρω-eating-popcorn-joker-gif-15586585

[wide ravine]

[chilly frost]

Nothing really I just think its not great for most people that arent turbo losers like us who scout out the wiki for a micro advantage

[elfin heart]

[misty gull]

can i get my BN lore in tierlist format?

[wide ravine]

I expected this during BS

[elfin heart]

That’s what I do

[wide ravine]

Not b4 tbh

Free entertainment

[chilly frost]

me staying at 55 to get a leg up just to go to bed early during BS cause im eepy

[dapper dawn]

u know... fair

[night spade]

I mean we have simulators for bosses, reading the wiki is a lot of steps down

[dapper dawn]

good eep is good

[wide ravine]

To some of us

[night spade]

[elfin heart]

Good eep always good :3

[night spade]

You barely sleep

[wide ravine]

[elfin heart]

I slept a whole 8h last night, feel comfy :3

[mossy prawn]

for us it is, for most people that’s outside of what they wanna do

[dapper dawn]

3 am eep

[wide ravine]

?????

[chilly frost]

Me and oolkki during last BS

[wide ravine]

I actually sleep

[jolly crest]

Lvl55 is the same vibe as keeping UMG at r5

[wide ravine]

Wdym

[night spade]

For the first time in months

[mossy prawn]

you’re supposed to be competing with me

[elfin heart]

Nuh uh

[night spade]

Yuh uh

[slender cipher]

She might be right

Just sayin

:3

[mossy prawn]

real af 💀

[solar plover]

ig ur the pillow

[arctic reef]

quarterly battery charge?

[elfin heart]

[night spade]

Software update

[wide ravine]

Surprising

[solar plover]

bru

wihvur

[slender cipher]

It's funny how Hikari sleeps for once and we clown on it

[wide ravine]

Not me anymore, I actually sleep normal hours

[night spade]

Too slow

[misty gull]

last bs i went to bed 20 minutes before my wife woke up

[night spade]

I know where you live now

[elfin heart]

I hate it here

[solar plover]

i typed a couple mroe words

grr

[misty gull]

and i wokeup feeling like i ate a battery

[night spade]

I’m in your walls

In your head

[solar plover]

no ur nto

[mossy prawn]

how i was feeling day 4

[solar plover]

https://tenor.com/view/mambo-umamusume-uma-musume-observing-observing-meme-gif-1610715111742355051

[night spade]

She deserves it after her abhorrent sleeping schedule the last few months

[arctic reef]

The cyborgs will never deceive me. They try so hard to blend in with us

[wide ravine]

Yall ain’t normal

[misty gull]

im not going for top 100 again

unless we get boar

[mossy prawn]

I am

[misty gull]

i might

[slender cipher]

[mossy prawn]

it is my destiny

[proven minnow]

must be rather spacious in there

[slender cipher]

Beep boop I hate frag owners

[jagged sonnet]

Surprised a giant could fit in such a small place

[night spade]

You rn

[arctic reef]

[wide ravine]

I sleep normal hours

[dense sonnet]

Sadly top 100 is forced upon me

[misty gull]

someone in my guild did the math

[dense sonnet]

Since I gotta beat Kratos

[misty gull]

its like 1k for 1mil points

so just drop a couple grand

[jagged sonnet]

I’ll post 10k lappy gifs then I’ll be normal

[night spade]

Sure you do

[misty gull]

and ur good

[elfin heart]

Isn’t it more than 1k = 1m

[night spade]

That’s why I often find you talking at 1 am

[wide ravine]

[elfin heart]

Iirc it was like 1k = 1.66m or something

[misty gull]

idk i usually just say misinformation

[arctic reef]

You can do that with 4hrs a day ez

[wide ravine]

That was the past

And on weekends

[misty gull]

even better

[wide ravine]

Only

[night spade]

[wide ravine]

[elfin heart]

Endedless is about to spend 6k to get a #1 score

[dense sonnet]

Sounds about right

[wide ravine]

Insert that HSC copypasta

[mossy prawn]

it was less when the epic store had the cash back feature

[solar plover]

when the oil money is infinite our sultan endedless can spend as much as he so desires

[mossy prawn]

i’m not going to spend though

[misty gull]

money is temporary

clout is forever

[chilly frost]

Me neither

[mossy prawn]

lair

[elfin heart]

Nuh uh you’re in the copypasta

[night spade]

Well duh, you already have 100k nanos ready

[elfin heart]

Lair

[wide ravine]

[solar plover]

hsc island has been exposed they've retreated to the hsc lair

[night spade]

Oolkki is just thinking about the lair they have for their sleeping sessions

[elfin heart]

[mossy prawn]

[wide ravine]

He’s not denying it

[night spade]

Why would he

[dapper dawn]

Dont let this distract you from the fact that DrWhere and Yugami were for sure paying. The two biggest whales in the game with 200 and 201 super tanks respectively. MaxSally may have been paying too given that the three of them simultaneously made massive jumps by hundreds of thousands points on the leaderboard

[night spade]

We all know the ship

[wide ravine]

Ty

[misty gull]

who originally made that

lmao

[solar plover]

he's more remorseful that we exposed him

[proven minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-gold-hoarder-hoard-smaug-gif-15973167

oolki rn

[dapper dawn]

somewhere on BN Reddit

[elfin heart]

Yeah I wonder who made that

[umbral socket]

MM looking out for the less fortunate, like always

[wide ravine]

An HSC member

[misty gull]

an anonymous gamer

so it was always ironic?

[night spade]

Well, in other news even if we get increased difficulty as punishment for knowing game mechanics I’ll just be farming stone in BFC to get #1 like Hikari did in BS1

[tight sundial]

You are both getting adopted next BX

[chilly frost]

No

[elfin heart]

Raider farms now

[night spade]

Oh right

[misty gull]

drop the lore then

[night spade]

GB and Raider farms

[proven minnow]

nuh uh its Greenborough

[elfin heart]

Someone on reddit made it and HSC adopted it

[misty gull]

oh ok

we got an identity?

[wide ravine]

The original message of this post has therefore been lost already

[chilly frost]

Its a reddit thread and the account was warning people in the comments about me and drwhere and max 😔

[misty gull]

NO

[wide ravine]

[chilly frost]

Im being oppressed

[misty gull]

HSC whistleblower

LOL

[arctic reef]

5 mill points or nothing

[elfin heart]

We do, but I probably shouldn’t say xd

[tight sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-too-easy-basic-gif-17920371738562039657

[mossy prawn]

ha i’ll say it

[night spade]

My boss strike setup:

❌ ❌ ❌
🇽 ❌ ❌ ❌ 🇽

[mossy prawn]

@umbral socket

[elfin heart]

Nvm then

[wide ravine]

All facts tho

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/emoji-reaction-meme

[chilly frost]

The slander never stops

[night spade]

Look at the gay cats in washed tier

Always together

[lime raptor]

He doesn't speak to me anymore, went to go get @misty gull and never came back

[night spade]

Just like Oolkki and Yugami

[dense sonnet]

Dork

[wide ravine]

Ain’t slander if it’s true

[chilly frost]

https://tenor.com/view/shocking-shocked-sarcasm-emoji-reaction-gif-14712663263517681978

[wide ravine]

Dw Spartan not in top 10, he’s done

[grizzled fjord]

Not the tier list for community member performance

[wide ravine]

I have an excuse

[proven minnow]

uh US politicians beg arrest you to differ

[night spade]

You’re still both in washed tier with no one else

[umbral socket]

[chilly frost]

I need a mod to stop this slander

[wide ravine]

Your placing is fine

[umbral socket]

Yes

[grizzled fjord]

Is this still a discussion on the feasibility of this suggestion

[wide ravine]

Past is the past

[night spade]

You broke up?

[wicked anvil]

No

[elfin heart]

No, we’ve moved on a long time ago lmao

[lime raptor]

I wonder if alex will let me macro this boss strike again

[chilly frost]

Where's sulf, he'd never stand for me being abused

[night spade]

Definitely

[wide ravine]

Never a couple to start with

[rich creek]

not the tierlist again

[night spade]

[umbral socket]

De modded

[rich creek]

i forgot about it

[elfin heart]

One sided relationship 💔

[wide ravine]

Yk the saying, always gotta try something at least once

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/darksouls-gif-20991094

[lime raptor]

Accurate to story

[elfin heart]

Who’s who

[wide ravine]

[rotund zealot]

Issue is anyone at 56 would love this and anyone who has intentionally not leveled to 56 would hate this

[umbral socket]

Depends on the before and after

[echo grotto]

Aight im getting this suggestion post back on track. For those against this suggestion. Do you guys worry for some reason on losing out on your advantage at staying back at 55?

[lime raptor]

I was David he was goliath

[elfin heart]

Oh right that incident

[rotund zealot]

Truly died for our sins

[umbral socket]

But why would anyone have done that

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/amor-gif-10758667656717415642

@slender cipher

[elfin heart]

[rotund zealot]

Golly who knows not me I like funny units

[wicked anvil]

This is true of literally any suggestion tho

[elfin heart]

Uh oh

[echo grotto]

All this does is take away the advantage people that stick back to 55 have over people progressing like normal

And also prevents any reason to stunt progression especially for f2p

In the end, the game shouldn’t be structured to where holding yourself back allows you to do better in other game modes

[lime raptor]

[rotund zealot]

Hey I aint complaining only stating people gonna complain

[quasi bramble]

I don't see this as an issue, intentionally not leveling up is a game behavior that shouldn't be encouraged, and is pretty bad design. Leveling should always come with a benefit, if it doesn't that means there's a problem with the game

[rotund zealot]

At the end of the day it would be easier for the devs to not make another set

[mossy prawn]

this community complains about EVERYTHING that’s nothing new 😂

[chilly frost]

Im complaining about the complaining

[lime raptor]

Thats its, youre pregnant

[night spade]

I’m just here

[mossy prawn]

[rotund zealot]

Im with you here man it shouldn’t be encouraged to intentionally make yourself worse

[elfin heart]

[misty gull]

someone needs to shutdown all this rampant complaining

[chilly frost]

Yall gotta joymax

[mossy prawn]

impossible difficulty

[rotund zealot]

I can’t believe your complaining about me complaining about people complaining about other people complaining

[mossy prawn]

drooling patrick

[misty gull]

i knew of one mod who could do it

[elfin heart]

-200 HP to mauler would fix this ngl

[misty gull]

EXACTLY

[echo grotto]

Need the devs to respond to this first

[chilly frost]

BRO SLANDERING PWAR FOR NO REASON 😭

[night spade]

Rest in piss

[misty gull]

soemones finally talking about the real issue

[echo grotto]

-200 hp and -40 dmg for those staying back at 55

[misty gull]

which is that maulers are TOO good

[mossy prawn]

auto correct 😭

[lime raptor]

What the Ffuck is pwar

[chilly frost]

Pwar rick

[misty gull]

LEVEL LOCK R6 MAULERS TO 56

I SAID IT

[dapper hornet]

Add the awful one with viruses or the Miraheze?

[quasi bramble]

nah, +200 hp to all player controlled units divvied up between r2 forward ranks

[elfin heart]

[umbral socket]

The only real solution to the boss strike problem is frags for everyone

[elfin heart]

Only way the game is good is if every unit is bad

[rich creek]

nah just link em to my graphics thats all they need

[night spade]

Thank God, I don’t have to finish the grind

[wheat flax]

ima say something that might piss some people off, but i feel like it needs to be said: boss strike is just as difficult at level 56 as it is at level 60, because you unlock literally nothing new you can use in those levels that would make boss strike easier

[wicked anvil]

Genuinely think that there should be a requirement for someone to review suggestions to make sure that they are actually reasonable and that there is at the very least some though put into addressing the potential upsides and downsides of the suggestion and why that suggestion should even be considered

[lime raptor]

[night spade]

What do you mean, this is fun

[misty gull]

i was being ironic everyone

[solar plover]

even better, give lvl 56 ppl +200 hp maulers and a 10% dmg boost

[misty gull]

IT WAS A JOKE

i gotta start adding those reddit things

[night spade]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[misty gull]

/s

[mossy prawn]

the mods can’t even clean up suggestions, no way they moderate what gets posted here

[elfin heart]

No fun allowed, -200 hp across the board

[night spade]

Your joke is now being made serious

[umbral socket]

Aight folks what's the comment target for this thread?

[misty gull]

mauler nerf

[wheat flax]

so even if the level cap was 60, it would still be better to stay at level 55 because it’s easier

[misty gull]

mauler removal?

[wicked anvil]

sigh

That’s true

[elfin heart]

3k

[lime raptor]

4

[misty gull]

mauler removal.

[night spade]

Say bye bye to your joke an get ready to fight in the trenches for your statement soldier!

[olive basalt]

That’s not what’s being argued. What’s being argued is 56 doesn’t unlock anything more powerful than 51-55 has access to and yet there’s a sizable difference in difficult

[misty gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-menacing-cursed-gif-8800082052821236868

[umbral socket]

You appear to be the only one who understood the question 😆

[lime raptor]

Bros saying et doesn't exist

[elfin heart]

[mossy prawn]

you’re missing the point

[echo grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-thank-you-gif-4688221

[elfin heart]

Hey I said the same thing earlier

[olive basalt]

Which is bad game design. You shouldn’t be incentivized to not progress, that isn’t fun

[elfin heart]

3k comments when

[night spade]

Time to end the fun early and ping a mod

[lime raptor]

What about et?

[wicked anvil]

We’re at about 700 rn

[night spade]

https://tenor.com/view/et-extra-terrestrial-party-disco-celebrate-gif-6155719

[echo grotto]

Nah theres actual discussion going on tho

Also the devs gotta respond to this

[misty gull]

someone post their own suggestion inside of this suggestion

[slender cipher]

EYYYYY it's ya boi

[olive basalt]

Et is nice to have - it’s not going to add significant points to your score over an equivalent spender still at 55

[wicked anvil]

The pregnant emojis are killing me lmao

[chilly frost]

I personally think nothing is unlocked at 60

Upvote pls

[wheat flax]

what do you even get at 60

[lime raptor]

Mr Evil Dr Pork Chop

[wheat flax]

some decos?

[chilly frost]

Deco diff

[echo grotto]

Uncapped tf2 units

[elfin heart]

Suburban and armor mulcher

[chilly frost]

Catch me at the top of the leaderboard

[slender cipher]

Mr evil Dr Pork Chop is a great name I approve

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chevrolet-suburban-chevrolet

[echo grotto]

R8 demoman

[misty gull]

real ones know what im talking about

[mossy prawn]

yeah 57-60 need to be filled

[lime raptor]

Used to be my name, thats why he who shall not be named thought i was john pork ahahahah

[olive basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-chu-gif-25383349

[solar plover]

Add plasma facilities and units to lvl 56 so that ppl at lvl 56 don't suffer as much and we promote levelling up to lvl 56

[lime raptor]

ballz*

[misty gull]

LMAO

[wheat flax]

yeah it would be cool if madrona added some original content between 57 and 60

[elfin heart]

Make PArty prestige, problem solved

[misty gull]

give us party

please

its only fair

[wheat flax]

give us diamond tank

[lime raptor]

What the ffuck is party

[dapper dawn]

Make boar prestige

[lime raptor]

Oh plasma arty

[dense sonnet]

Nerf party into the dirt 💀

[dapper dawn]

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-dj-and-disco-dancing-cats-2011-2012

[elfin heart]

[wicked anvil]

-200 HP?

[solar plover]

cmon guys we need to reward levelling up

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/kido-gif-17366997422444245909

[solar plover]

and prevent

bad game design

[misty gull]

just make both layouts the same

as bandaid

[dense sonnet]

Subtract its maximum hp off

[wheat flax]

plasma mammoth artillery plasma cannon mammoth rider

[misty gull]

then work on balance patch BEFORE plasma units

come out

please don't have pvp with pARTY

[mossy prawn]

Plasma will release completely unchanged

[misty gull]

pleaseeeeeee

[lime raptor]

I think we should make this game pay to win only

[mossy prawn]

i’m investing now

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disturbed-cat

[tight sundial]

Devs should just give everyone a 500k xp bonus as a thank you reward to everyone

[elfin heart]

It probably will at this rate xd

[wicked anvil]

Plasma will release as is because there is literally nothing else beyond mauler for F2P otherwise

[wheat flax]

oolkki is usually right so i will trust it

[olive basalt]

I don’t think this suggestion SHOULD happen, but I do think that if it did it would be a positive thing for the community and I don’t really understand why there’s arguments against it for this strike

[lime raptor]

As long as it goes to mail

[misty gull]

if only we knew someone with the power to change that

we literaly need a hero

[solar plover]

yk what just give the old mammoth tier sub ppl get a png of what plasma mammoth is supposed to be and give it a board wipe attack

[lime raptor]

Im here

[wheat flax]

i don’t even know what the suggestion is i am just here yapping

[olive basalt]

Finally someone’s making sense

[misty gull]

this is new dono gen

[slender cipher]

BNAP told people early on don't go to 56, plus reading the wiki is free, anyone can see the increase in difficulty

[umbral socket]

That's all of us

[echo grotto]

The only people I see disagreeing with it are the ones that wanna keep their advantage of staying at 55 when its ultimately bad game design and shouldn't be a thing

[stoic sleet]

Every boss strike clear sends 1k exp straight to your level

[wheat flax]

dollar general

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/die-spongebob-meme-gif-754776035690869996

[misty gull]

give me double plasma weekend

[wicked anvil]

Is it reasonable to expect people to have to rely on outside sources to play the game in a manner that doesn’t induce extreme pain?

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[elfin heart]

Who needs double plasma when PArty is 140 nanos

[lime raptor]

Yes

[mossy prawn]

I don’t think this is how people should be encouraged to play, regardless of whether the information was available or not. This kinda sits in the same category as firemod, yeah everyone said it and it was available on the wiki, but it’s not just “common knowledge” to everyone who plays the game

[rotund zealot]

Terraria moment

[umbral socket]

There's a reason why I made the suggestion to allow players to play the lower level waves using only the units available at those levels. It completely resolves the issue of stalling levels to get more bsp

[wicked anvil]

One of the few issues with terraria tbh

[mossy prawn]

Time for me to link my BS modifiers suggestion

[misty gull]

more fun for everyone!

[quasi bramble]

one of the best boss strike suggestions in existance

[umbral socket]

Of course, units will need to be deranked for the duration of the battle if they are rank locked

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[olive basalt]

But what warrants the increase in difficulty? The only thing I’m seeing from people is “you should’ve known it would get harder because you should’ve been watching all the YouTubers random videos and reading the wiki and having access to to donator-general”, but no one’s actually saying what part of level 56 today warrants a harder strike. Like what do I gain access to realistically that puts me at any kind of significant advantage over someone at level 55

[rotund zealot]

Hard agree I have 500 hours and I still use that thing

[misty gull]

this guy didnt go to BNAP church every sunday

and now hes paying the price

[wicked anvil]

Me when I forget the recipe for frostspark boots or cell phone for the 30th time

[mossy prawn]

[misty gull]

you didnt study the ancient texts of the wiki?

[echo grotto]

ETs will help for sure but its still infinity easier to stay at 55 where yiu can still use msulers and frags without losing barely any units

[night spade]

There is none, it’s just the way old BN was scaled

[mossy prawn]

i simply used my Orb

[rotund zealot]

Me when Im learning why I cant find any Flinxes

[night spade]

For all we know this scaling doesn’t even exist anymore in the next Boss Strike

[glacial eagle]

If they are going to keep it at the 56-60 bracket atleast unlock the ranks on TF2 units

[misty gull]

mom said its my turn

i gotta get a date for the balance pass

[night spade]

This whole suggestion is based on the speculation that BS2 will be a carbon copy of BS13

[slender cipher]

Praise the bald shiny one

[misty gull]

i think its a fair assumption tho

[sharp furnace]

simpler solution, make us fight the level 60+ lineups, should be balanced and equally hard for everyone

[misty gull]

just like how the metamancers are staying at 55 cuz of it

[night spade]

Maybe

[umbral socket]

It is a pretty reasonable assumption considering that Madrona has changed almost nothing

[wicked anvil]

It’s a fair assumption given that BS1 was just Yuzul/10 with diff rewards

[echo grotto]

Yesh historically they usually dont change much

[night spade]

Or maybe they spent time making a unique boss strike

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-you-know-something-i-dont-doug-the-head

[quasi bramble]

at the very least, assuming it'll be a carbon copy of another BS is a good assumption

[echo grotto]

And regardless, it doesn't hurt to suggest they implement this for the better

[umbral socket]

Is this some sort of Dev tester leak?

[misty gull]

MUHAHAHAHHA

[solar plover]

i couldnt believe my friends last playthru was actually going to the guide npc for recipes instead of hopping on the wiki 😭

[misty gull]

WE'VE SQUEEZED THEM

[rotund zealot]

Bros cooked ; (

[mossy prawn]

[misty gull]

right?

[olive basalt]

I’d also like it to be clear that I myself was aware the bs would get harder, I wanted 56 and prestige and went for it. I know the situation I put myself in. That doesn’t mean others that made it to 56 were aware it would be significantly harder

[night spade]

[lime raptor]

High quality emoji

[solar plover]

mfw when these guys have 1.5k hours of vanilla terraria

[misty gull]

i gotta play vanilla again

[night spade]

I blame Brio

[misty gull]

been too long

[solar plover]

u should

[mossy prawn]

oops

[lime raptor]

That is the correct answer

[solar plover]

moonlord now drops a tentacle whip...........................

[rotund zealot]

No offense but what level are you?

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bilizz

what the hell going on in vanilla terraria?

[rotund zealot]

I mean if your sitting at 55 that feels like it’s telling me enough on your side of the argument

[boreal scarab]

I doubt there are many people complaining a month before the BS, who are aware enough of the game news to know there’s a BS already, that didn’t know going to 56 would be significantly harder. Who are these people?

[misty gull]

yo

CAN WE GET A 55 CHECK

[umbral socket]

We're now going on a tangent about Terraria? This has to be the most off-topic a thread has ever gotten lol

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-shades-cool-smug-cool-shades-gif-18677159

[lime raptor]

Bite me

[misty gull]

show your true colors

cowards

[chilly frost]

Im level 57

[slender cipher]

That's the only way I'll get a tentacle drop

[mossy prawn]

ME ME ME

[umbral socket]

Found Snacer's alt

[night spade]

55, I have a strategic mastermind who’s been working on BS prep since day 1 after BS1. This isn’t some “gotcha” though. My “reputation” isn’t tarnished by having the foresight of listening to the person who’s constantly working on BS tech

[chilly frost]

Snacers would already have r6 Megas and supers. Im still r4 on both 😔

[rotund zealot]

And there it is folks

[umbral socket]

While we are on the topic of increasing levels making the game more difficult for less gain, how do y'all feel about level 60 DN?

[glacial eagle]

Also by original BS 13 people could have 13 boss strikes of planes ect and 13 boss strikes of promo units built up to support their army some of these would provide the good AA that we lack

[rotund zealot]

And my brother Im not saying any of that holy cow

The point is CLEARLY

[rotund zealot]

you have a motive to keep it the way it is

[lime raptor]

Im innocent

My games bugged, wont let me collect my Morgan houses

[sharp furnace]

its only a pve game, why are u getting worked up for a small level change?

[dapper dawn]

as in seeing the wiki boss strike bracket? <(")

[mossy prawn]

WE ARE 55 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[dapper dawn]

like it literally there

[rotund zealot]

Again one shouldn’t have to rely on a THIRD PARTY WIKI

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/hadeel928-يوسف-العماري-موسى-الخنيزي-gif-1019745061637303674

[wicked anvil]

I don’t think your reputation is tarnished or whatever, but it does kind of demonstrate that you might not be the demographic that the suggestion is there for

[misty gull]

nah i think you can argue for or agaisnt this whether your 55 or 56

theres a couple people who are 55 who think its dumb

[wicked anvil]

But yes milky is right

[echo grotto]

Why are people okay with the idea with the game being structured to where holding yourself back allows you to do better in other game modes

[umbral socket]

Guys, let's just make BS the same waves for all levels

[solar plover]

Gulp

[lime raptor]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[misty gull]

i just wanna see MM and HSC clash

[elfin heart]

Every level uses level 5-10 to make it fair

[wicked anvil]

I personally don’t think it makes much sense to start haranguing people over whether they’re going to benefit from this or not unless you want to start throwing accusations of debating in bad faith

[misty gull]

thats the only reason im here

[solar plover]

this is like literally one of the only ever exceptions that will happen lol

[glacial eagle]

Just make 50+ the same

[solar plover]

i think

ur more worried

[mossy prawn]

we don’t have a reason to clash

[lime raptor]

MM? Thought they died

[solar plover]

about individual ldb and guild placement

lol

[echo grotto]

Nah we got people doing the same. Doesn't mean its not bad game design

[umbral socket]

I was thinking 66-70 but pros and cons. Pros and cons.

[misty gull]

i agree with you

but its making y'all go ALL OUT

to get that # 1 spot

WHOS GONNA TAKE THE CROWN

[lime raptor]

You have spud and i want him

This is reason

[misty gull]

find out next time on DRAGON BALL Z

[lime raptor]

Death to hsc

[mossy prawn]

We’re not competing for #1, we’re just playing the game

[slender cipher]

How much are you willing to trade for him?

[lime raptor]

You can have brio

[echo grotto]

[misty gull]

yeah exactly

[echo grotto]

To be fair this next strike isn't gonna be some game changer exactly

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/johnny-laugh-four

[umbral socket]

It is easy. We just gotta dox oolkki and Yugami based off of their streams and occupy them for the duration of the strike

[mossy prawn]

real

[slender cipher]

I want something with value smh

[solar plover]

nah we want the other spud

[lime raptor]

Me then

[solar plover]

give us spud peeler

[misty gull]

the thresher tank is gonna make the difference

[slender cipher]

That's more like it

[chilly frost]

If hsc gets top 10 it's a miracle. Unfortunately we took in a lot of stinky players recently

[misty gull]

ok i gotta go do sch**l

[slender cipher]

I showered last year excuse you

[misty gull]

goodbye ragebaiters

[stoic sleet]

🙁

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-laughing-get-into-car-got-you-lol-gif-4887692972673590281

[chilly frost]

Its dr ragebaiter to you bud

[echo grotto]

[umbral socket]

Just take the mm system of shoving people into the fifth Guild

[lime raptor]

Dr rageless baiter

[misty gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/emotiguy-salute-joe-hi

he carries the flame

[night spade]

And my sister, I’m saying that this fallacy of an argument isn’t valid. I’m not interested in any “but not everyone reads the wiki” okay, and? Boss Strikes aren’t mandatory, they’re not necessary for the gameplay. You can play this entire game without ever being like “damn, I really need the boss strike rewards now” the competitive side of this game is always going to find advantages like this to stay on top though. Is it inherently because of how this game is balanced around promo units? Sure I’m not gonna disagree with you there at all but this “punish people who saw this coming because muh leaderboard position” is just dumb 🤷‍♀️

[lime raptor]

Otto is actually a porcupine

[rotund zealot]

Its alright Drip

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/porcupine-corn-cute-looking-at-you-watching-gif-14312631468040346300

[solar plover]

dropshipping a fox into the pacific rq

[rotund zealot]

Im a very accepting porcupine

[umbral socket]

Can't believe we get to make BOTH lumber jokes AND level 55 jokes about HSC in the coming strike

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/rodent-porcupine-animal-zoom-running-gif-13387757646340527844

[solar plover]

then immdiately rescuing

[echo grotto]

I think the question is why do you insist on keeping something that is objectively bad game design in the game other than to ensure a temporary advantage

[rotund zealot]

Because it benefits them its as simple as that

[night spade]

I mean it is, but this isn’t the way to fix it

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/positive-porcupine-veefriends-happy-hopeful-optimistic-gif-22111601

[umbral socket]

Gonna have to make that double copypasta full page spread

[solar plover]

I think your fearmongering over it being bad game design is flawed since this is prob gonna be the only exception this flaw is so prominent

[elfin heart]

Chop chop owl time for a new copypasta

[silk ridge]

No that’s actually quite accurate for a mil sim

[quasi bramble]

boss strikes give units, sure those units aren't mandatory

but well, they actually are for free to play AS at the moment and units being gated behind is going to make it seem necessary to a lot of players.

[umbral socket]

[night spade]

Not really

You’re not obligated to kill the AS

[lime raptor]

Who here likes to dip their fries into a mcflurry/milkshake

[echo grotto]

In the suggestion I specifically mentioned only doing it for this strike as by the time we get another strike the ability to take advantage of not leveling will be mostly removed just from having more units available. Its just a thing currently due to us stopping right at the first level things get crazy

[night spade]

Even the mission line suggests you’re not really meant to kill the AC as soon as you get it either

[stoic sleet]

Just do this it’ll fix the 56 issue

[lime raptor]

Can we focus on the real question pls

[echo grotto]

Unirocally based

[slender cipher]

I'm ready for it

[wheat flax]

add plasma mammoth only for level 56

[rotund zealot]

If I have one I will trying to be healthy sucks

[lime raptor]

Its low-key good

Sweet n salty

Just like a little bit

Not a full submerge

[proven minnow]

so far theres 2 bosses that you HAVE to beat those beeing Kraken Dreadnought. AS is in no way a boss that is necessary to be beaten in order to progress in the game

[dim rover]

i think this is just gonna be the way BN will always be tbh

[rotund zealot]

Thats too much effort just take a gulp then shove fries in the mouth

[umbral socket]

Going to post a sign up sheet for names

[night spade]

There’s also the SWQ and GT later on but even those are slightly watered down versions

[proven minnow]

~~although there isnt much story after kraken i think just 1 more mission ~~

[wheat flax]

why do you have to fight kraken and DN?

[lime raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-movie-now-playing-tv-spot-gif-25850381

[night spade]

Mission

[wheat flax]

oh but mission is ez?

[quasi bramble]

I'll never understand this take

it's a boss, in the game, with units locked behind it

it's also not right away, because we have up to 6 levels past it's unlock time, and it's gated behind high ranks

is it mandatory: no, is it bad design to have something unbeatable sitting there for well over 10 levels, 100%

[lime raptor]

Ayo

Why did I not think of that, keep a bit in your mouth than yam it

[proven minnow]

yea hence the "so far"

[rotund zealot]

This is why you talk to Americans professional food eaters

[night spade]

Unlike the AC and AS the other bosses are integrated into the storyline. Yes they are easier which is why I argue the AC and AS isn’t mandatory until you can beat them. You can play this game perfectly fine without ever worrying about the competitive side

[lime raptor]

@night spade do you dip your fries in to your milkshake or mcflurry

[echo grotto]

If any devs are on rn please respond to this suggestion 🙏

[rotund zealot]

Exactly “Hey heres this aspect of the game why don’t you just not do that”

[lime raptor]

True i should take notes from one of the most obese nations

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[rotund zealot]

Exactlyyy

[night spade]

No I eat healthy

[lime raptor]

But when youre not

[umbral socket]

@karmic elk can we get the GF Player's Union on this?

[rotund zealot]

Checks out with some of the takes

[lime raptor]

Everyone does a Maccies occasionally

[umbral socket]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[solar plover]

NOT THE UNION WORKERS

[wheat flax]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[solar plover]

everybody dip before the picket lines form

[quasi bramble]

at the end of the day, it's just gatekeeping really

[rotund zealot]

Aint that the truth

[lime raptor]

Hahaha picket and gate in 5 messages