so i was just in this other sufgestion about the cobra which apparently is the worse verion of the snake even if they look alike. id like to suggest we can get the snake again then to make it easier for the people who didnt get it last time. but this time it can also be a lower reward so its easier to get even with a bad guild like i had for the first boss strike
#boss strike snake helicopter again
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Possibly aligns with my post;
https://discord.com/channels/463817609130016788/1452445228312301801
Not a great idea to repeat the last ragebait post as a mod locked it.
Snake is way less bad than cobra, curious to see how this post does ngl
they will likely rerun during winter BS again
-# I'm glad a mod locked it, as it was sustaining off OP just ragebaiting...
But, I think the clean solution is to just offer people a way to get BS units. However at Madrona's pace I am not sure when AS will be here. My game can't even launch without crashing at the moment about... 3/4ths of the time. I also heard something about nerfing it (AS) elsewhere but take that with a severe grain of salt.
yes thank you. i just wanted to tune in too that other post because i want to be able to defeat the sentinel robot it just got so weird in there though but i think its an important conversation to have because some people didnt get the helicopter and everyone keeps saying how good it is.
They'll talk about it but keep in mind currently the AS isn't publicly in the game. If it's in the game, it's in the beta, beta. Most people are going off Beta footage for the AS, and memory of how the old AS worked. It could be easier, it could be the same. The Snake could be required, Madrona might make it easier. Or they'll do what they did with Naval and just say "well you can beat it with this one specific formation so keep at it for 10 years..."
would they change the sentinel? seems like the game is veery much the same so far
Okay, I get how crucial this unit is, but I feel like this would just be a bandaid fix for a larger problem. And one that’d have someone else asking for a third snake rerun a month later.
Let’s say we do get the Snake, right? Well now a few more people have the Snake. But here comes a newcomer, or someone who wasn’t in a guild in time. They need a snake too! Do we rerun the snake again? I feel like we’d end up in some kind of Fomo-Ouroboros. Fomoboros if you will. There will always be somebody who doesn’t have the snake. someone will have always missed out. Someone will always want/need a rerun.
I think the most logical solution here is the boss strike shop from the other suggestion.
They've changed some things, it's rumored they might change the sentinel. Not confirmed.
Problem is: this is a limited time unit and the way it’s obtained means someone will always be missing out.
What is in my opinion an ideal solution isn’t necessarily to rerun it, so much as to make sure it’s obtainable through other, consistent means (boss strike shop)
rumored sounds like the kind of thing that came out of the other post that went off track
It's been... All over, but that's because the developers discuss things in #donator-general sometimes with players, or other players get access to the beta and release some information to other players and... Things circulate.
The problem is, is that the pipeline for the information getting to me, is second hand, through second hand, and that's sustained by... Random people I don't know but say things.
It’s rumored but I’m operating on the assumption we’re fighting an un-nerfed, unchanged sentinel.
if we don’t go to lvl 56 though, that might change things. Idk how possible it is if F2Ps don’t have stuff like trebuchets at least.
I mean consider things like Navel and the M10 which is my only assumption. Currently the AC requires F2P to get a bunch of Tank Killers and throw them at the wall. Or Heavyr's if they've actually gotten that far along.
Meanwhile in Navel while you can use the R1, it's notably inferior, and harder to beat bosses with, where as the M10 is far easier, and highly recommended by, every guide, everywhere.
I mean yeah, but even with Naval bosses, they’re theoretically possible while paying makes it much much easier. With Sentinel, I’m not sure what options F2Ps have. Even with the Treb.
from what I've heard it's possible free to play... if you knew/know what nano units to buy and or got Snakes.
I've also heard it functionally isn't possible 100% free to play with no event units even with trebs
That’s my worry, that it’s functionally impossible F2P. Which is why they might nerf it, but they haven’t nerfed bosses before x.x’
I mean, the excuse really is "Do we need to make it easier?" The reason players want the AS is because it's going to drop the fragments, which are necessary. Consider that the only good Boss Drop in game at the moment is the Ironclad. Do you need the Ironclad? Not really, but it has this really painful first attack. So players recommend beating it.
The AC, I mean... Do you need to beat it? It reliably provides gears. That's it. If you got an AC Frag, Dexter, Sinister, yeah cool and all, but. Those are just glorified trophies. Same with Kraken, the Tentacle is just a worse Monster Grouper, and the Baby Grouper works just fine imo.
they could do a "change" where some HP is shifted to armor instead and that would help.
What I am trying to say is that, the developers exclude promo units right now because they don't want to repeat that formula, but they also have been trying to reduce OP broken things and promos are one of the key players in power scaling being busted.
So when they add the AS frags, well players recommend them because they're good. So they want you to beat the AS, to get a good unit, to make the game easier.
So it's like. I mean do we need to make the AS easier? You don't necessarily need the frags. They're just nice to have.
It’s not impossible without nano units and without snake
And no it’s not like” gamble on 0.1% winrate” either dw xd
It’s pretty doable
Not impossible with or without trebuchet?
I haven’t run the odds on F2P formations yet, but I don’t know what good options they really have there
-# death!
Kind of, yes! (on needing the frags)
Consider just how good the AS frags are. The ranged frag specifically is utterly game changing. The melee frag is no slouch either. They’re easily all-star picks for boss strikes, and people who do have them have a real competitive advantage over those who don’t.
That's the point. They don't want you to have game changing things. That's why Promo's don't exist.
Otherwise they'd have released the Supreme Mini Tank, or the Raider Recruit (Yes he's garbage.) And all the other promo stuff!
But we’re getting the AS and its fragments anyway, so is it not better to make sure everyone can get it, than to create an even larger power gap?
To us the players, yes! having things that do that much is important, to them the developers, they seem to be trying to keep that out of our hands at the moment.
I mean sure but then it's limited to the few that already overexert themselves anyways. I can't really speak for the devs here.
You’ll have to ask @slow peak
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Trebs are bad for AS. Take a TK if you must
The shop proposal is probably the ideal solution to this problem. Just needs a way to be balanced so we’re not mass producing only the good stuff.
Both fragments are a lot stronger than anything else in the game at our current level. As for broken things not being in the game. I’m curious to see how they handle this.
Liam locked it himself lol
Wouldn't know, don't care, don't need correction.
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