After reaching tier 10 in BS disable the donation feature !! Only compete with other guilds and players in matter of effort not who got more nanos to spend !!
#Disable Boss Strike Donations ….!
halcyon nymph
strange relic
FTP here
Stupid idea. Resource contribution is one of the few things that actually even the playing field a little bit in terms of players being able to contribute even without the biggest fanciest units. No matter how far along in progression and how much you've leveled/improved your armies, you can always contribute resources and make a little difference.
What really needs to be disabled is buying resources with nanopods/rushing t2 production.
urban sable
FTP here
Stupid idea. Resource contribution is one of the few things that actual...
How do you say stupid then contribute my idea ??
It’s all about buying with nanos
That I see problem with
Production won’t get you 30K BS points at max if your f2p
urban sable
Read the description mate
strange relic
My position is you aren't addressing the root of the problem and you're taking other guilds doing better than yours personally for some reason
I made my suggestion. Resources shouldn't be purchasable by nanopods
urban sable
Omg read again pls
strange relic
After reaching tier 10 in BS disable the donation feature !! Only compete with other guilds and players in matter of effort not who got more nanos to spend !!
Where did you say what I did?
You want people to not be able to donate resources anymore once they reach t10 rewards
That is a completely different and much worse solution to the problem of guilds with tons of whales spending nanopods to rush their boss strike points to the top without actually fighting or earning them legit.
The problem is that whales can just throw more money at the problem.
urban sable
‘Not who got more nanos to spend ‘ yea of course I want to meet a middle way of the problem
urban sable
I think it’s hard to prevent players from spending nanos on BS , so my suggestion is a middle way , you can’t force your idea to others!! there are players who wants to pay to get tier10 it will benefit the game and devs , I am just saying after tier 10 disable donations so when you in the leaderboard no players can jump 100K in 30Minutes !!!
strange relic
Your suggestion is terrible because it punishes legitimate players who can still only donate resources instead of fighting.
urban sable
Omg are u serious ?
strange relic
They are entirely locked out of further contributions, regardless of whether or not they can spend money
I don't know if you knew this, but FTP players can and do save up resources to donate in addition to fight the strike itself.
How effective that is is up for debate, but they do at least contribute.
urban sable
Donations won’t even cover 5% of your BS points I got 1M BS and less than 50K is donations and I am avg player with lvl 10 concrete and max stone production, you just came in here in attack mode saying stupid idea and stuff then contribute to the stupid idea 😂😂without looking to other parties involved … my guy
strange relic
It's called criticism
But okay if you wanna take this personally and attack my attitude, I have a feeling reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
strange relic
Oh I'm sorry, I should have guessed you're a troll
Silly me
Whales won, they're top of the leaderboard. Die mad about it.
Have a nice day.
strange relic
Here's a further point:
If donating resources is so much less effective, why are you targeting that avenue instead of the hypothetical whale with tons of nanopods rushing their hospitals and/or buying more premium units to fight the boss strike better?
Arguably that's way more effective
true thorn
Well, concrete slamming is far faster but yea
I don’t think donation spamming is that big of an issue, if it is, just remove donations from the personal leaderboards
For guilds it’s fine, not enough people would concrete spam to make it matter there
boreal citrus
I doubt even the big concrete spammer made more than a million points in difference. It is more of a meme than an actual issue
It is $100 for 122,500 points. To cover the multi million points difference would require thousands of dollars
humble frost
the op just wants less money in the devs pockets thats all
cosmic glade
As F2P player, I support the opinion of Chum
humble frost
while it was funny to see the single digit amount of players spamming hundreds of $ on concrete alone, it literally did not impact the game whatsoever. It was just a publicity stunt. So at the very least the devs got some extra money
true thorn
I still kinda expect someone to try in the last hour lol
cosmic glade
it's a BS, if whales want to spend their money, it's their problem. there are no impact on the other players
disable donations just punish everyone, even F2P players
boreal citrus
I still kinda expect someone to try in the last hour lol
The gap between PWar, MM, and HSC requires tens of thousands to try. The gap outside of the big three is even higher. I really don't see anyone paying the equivalent of a new car for a single boss strike
But it WOULD be entertaining to see. Probably can bump up content release by a whole month or two with that kind of money lol
true thorn
Well I expected on the individual
I think the guild leadership is more or less stable here
boreal citrus
Well I expected on the individual
Awh I see what you mean
urban sable
the op just wants less money in the devs pockets thats all
That’s you not me
No one mentioned money here
We mentioning competitive play in the leaderboard
Just that
As fan of BN I want the leaderboard to be competitive
The more time you put in the game
The higher you go
All other factors are limited
humble frost
there is never a reason to compare yourself to other guilds unless for ego. This isnt the arena events where guild position actually matters
urban sable
I am not comparing guilds my guy
boreal citrus
All other factors are limited
Money is very limited
urban sable
there is never a reason to compare yourself to other guilds unless for ego. This...
What’s ego have to do with competitive ? Omg I am comparing players leaderboard
what’s ego and devs money have to do with that ?
I am done here
You just learned these words yesterday and happy to write them down
boreal citrus
What’s ego have to do with competitive ? Omg I am comparing players leaderboard
But it IS competitive. That's why the player who nano'd the most is number 30 and all the other people got there through grind. And if two or three players are willing to pay several hundred dollars each to jump from 30 to 60, why does that matter? That just means more and faster content for the rest of us. The leaderboards are ultimately aesthetic and mean nothing for gameplay
strange relic
You could argue that the more/better rewards make a difference, but that already happens anyway via the methods described before.
boreal citrus
You could argue that the more/better rewards make a difference, but that already...
Okay yeah you can make a borderline argument for that, but if you are willing to pay $10494+taxes for the points it takes to secure T10, I feel like you deserve a virtual helicopter
strange relic
Personally I feel like irresponsible spending like that just shouldn't be happening anyway
As in: it shouldn't be an option
Just my opinion
boreal citrus
Personally I feel like irresponsible spending like that just shouldn't be happen...
I understand your point and I think it is unfortunate that some people have ruined their lives over gacha game gambling, but I think it is nice that in BN, you know exactly what you are paying for with no gacha (if they bring back secret vaults, I think that's adios for me). It is not the predatory type of monetization. It is also hard to decide what is irresponsible and what isn't. For those in a struggling family in a developing country, $50 could be irresponsible. For the heirs to a billion dollar company, $50,000 still isn't irresponsible
strange relic
I understand your point and I think it is unfortunate that some people have ruin...
I consider wasting your time in hopes that you'll pay to skip the wait predatory. If that wasn't an option and waiting is just something you MUST contend with and cannot skip, then that'd make me satisfied.
You're correct in that it's far worse to have gambling
boreal citrus
I consider wasting your time in hopes that you'll pay to skip the wait predatory...
I see your point, although people can still reduce wait in other ways. Build new nano units does not require the wait for resources. Build more adv. hospitals and you can heal more units simultaneously etc. It will never not be a thing unless the studio basically gives up monetization. It is just a matter of where you draw the line in the sand and where you drew your line includes nano speed up whereas mine does not, but they are ultimately lines in that same general area I think
strange relic
I thought of something while we were having this conversation.
Assuming I got my way and rushing/buying resources with nanos was removed
What exactly would there be to "sink" nanopods into?
boreal citrus
What exactly would there be to "sink" nanopods into?
201 super tanks I guess 🤷♂️
strange relic
Maybe
But I wonder "I guess I'll just buy another mega tank" is really that good because most people will be like "I already have those I don't need more."
I suppose skins can be a much better way to have yet another thing to spend nanos on
I think perhaps something that I'd be fine with keeping is the rush spend, but only for producing and healing units
IE not shops for gold/exp and not resources
halcyon nymph
201 super tanks I guess 🤷♂️
Dont let this distract you from the fact that DrWhere and Yugami were for sure paying. The two biggest whales in the game with 200 and 201 super tanks respectively. MaxSally may have been paying too given that the three of them simultaneously made massive jumps by hundreds of thousands points on the leaderboard
strange relic
Let's not turn this into personal attacks
boreal citrus
*Dont let this distract you from the fact that* DrWhere and Yugami were for sure...
I was looking for this the moment I mentioned 201 lmao
unkempt canyon
Let's not turn this into personal attacks
Dont let this distract you from the fact that DrWhere and Yugami were for sure paying. The two biggest whales in the game with 200 and 201 super tanks respectively. MaxSally may have been paying too given that the three of them simultaneously made massive jumps by hundreds of thousands points on the leaderboard
boreal citrus
Let's not turn this into personal attacks
I am pretty sure they are wearing it like a badge of honor 😆
strange relic
That's their perogative
Personally I'd only consider "I achieved x without spending a dollar" as any kind of real achievement.
boreal citrus
Personally I'd only consider "I achieved x without spending a dollar" as any kin...
gasp a nonbeliever! Infidel!
halcyon nymph
Personally I'd only consider "I achieved x without spending a dollar" as any kin...
what is bro talking about 🥀
scarlet karma
A simpler solution would just be to put a cap on how many resources a player can donate in a given day. 5 donations a day is perfectly reasonable, and it gives a way for lower-level players whose armies can't compete to still contribute at least something to the guild's progress.
strange relic
I don't see excessive donation as a problem to begin with
Capping it at 5 per day neuters potential avenues for contributing by hoarding resources
cosmic glade
If you just want to see the contribution of donation and the contribution of pure grinding, a solution would be to have 2 leaderbords : one for the score of pure grinding, one for the total donation + pure grinding (as we have now)
true thorn
I mean that’s basically the equivalent of removing donations from the leaderboard yea
Nobody would care about the dual leaderboard or vice versa
olive raft
Only the opinion of spender matter 
halcyon nymph
Only the opinion of spender matter <:lt_morgan:981303460567871528>
Sorry faust, it made me laugh
nocturne trellis
5 donations a day translates to 20 donations over the course of a BS, or 20k points
not very impactful
but overall I feel donations do more good for guilds overall than anything else
we've gotta remember that only a fraction of the top 100 players were even plausibly abusing this system
a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of the playerbase
olive raft
Abusing their wallet =/= abusing the system
nocturne trellis
Also
removing donation spamming would be a massive slap in the face to any whale who's already dropped dozens of High Capacity Vaults
worldly dust
Who cares about the leaderboard lmao, let ppl get the funny bs rewards their way
mental dove
what? no wtf, that is an easy way to gain next tier rewards why would you remove it when it’s more needed