"Unlock" Brutalizer

[pulsar crown]

For now Brutalizer can only attack vehicles, being a unit for 70 Nanopods Brutalizer is absolutely not worth buying comparing efficiency to price with Mega Tank, Brutalizer is weaker, has less HP and the worst limitation is that it can only attack vehicles (of course not telling about flying units)

How about we "unlock" Brutalizer and let it attack each ground units without "locking" it's opportunity to attack everything, especially, if the story tells that this vehicle is a type of a "shredder" why can't it "shred" everything?🤔

Let Brutalizer become finally "brutal"!

[white forge]

It gets worse when you realize it can't even attack all vehicle units bc it can't attack metal which some vehicle units are

[shadow harness]

That's the limiter, only hits vehicles but it kills them better than anything else in the game, tank killer included

Nothing else doing near 800 damage to a tank

[pulsar crown]

To my mind it would be better to reduce this number on 20%, but let Brutalizer hit everything, it is still one of the most expensive units in the game, looks like it is not fair nerfing it so much🤔

[shadow harness]

Then argument should be to make it cheaper, which can agree to a point of maybe to 45-55 nano range. But it's the anti-armor unit and still worth it for even light spenders

[pulsar crown]

Well I finally created issue to discuss about😅

In my suggestions I try to keep the position of not touching ingame "economics" but try to make units worth a price, if this unit is for Nanopods, it sounds like: "I am ready to buy Brutalizer for 70 Nanopods, if it will be able to hit everything", trying to share my view on ingame mechanics — making units that could hit only one type of enemy infantry is not good at all, because if at the end of a round there are only 2 units left: a trooper VS Brutalizer — trooper will win, what is absolutely crazy😄 I see the total ingame decision to let all limited units hit everything, because they just can do it

[white forge]

wouldnt mind it being the anti-vehicle but it needs to hit metal so many units are under that

[shadow harness]

How many metal units are not also vehicle

That are pratical

[shadow harness]

I can work with niche cases if it fills the niche well. Which the brute does extremely well and only argubly beaten by the rng Melee fragment

[white forge]

https://battlenations.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Metal Im not gonna check them all but from what ive seen 90% are vehicles/tanks

some may be artillery that arent in the vehicle category

[shadow harness]

If you're gonna have a niche unit it should be almost overpowered in said catagory to compensate. It's why the hunter/big game hunter are bad. They're meant to be anti-critter but barely do more than an average infantry at the same level

[shadow harness]

Brute can't hit:
Aries
Armored pillbox
Heavy artillery
Light artillery
Mammoth artillery
Mechanized artillery
Bora Bora hovercraft
Brimstone
Death from above
Earthshaker
Portable electric fence
Flame turret
Hailstorm
Peacemaker
Riot truck (tagged as artillery for some reason)
Rocket truck
Aero bike
Anti-grav tank
Mech trooper
turtlesheller
Trebuchet

[sudden gyro]

Areo bike sure, it can fly. Anti Grav tank, sure it can fly. The rest of that what.

[shadow harness]

Tagged as artillery-metal not as vehicle and/or tank

Which is weird cause some stuff like silver wolf art is tagged as a vehicle

[white forge]

? just to be sure if it has the metal tag it cant be hit even if its vehicle or am i wrong on that
bc if it can still hit it bc it has vehicle when it also has metal tag then there should be more on that list like the aces 650cc

i worded that poorly

metal x vehicle = it can or cant be hit
bc the aces has both of those tags

[shadow harness]

Think thay was a typo on my part

[white forge]

oh wait nvm

[shadow harness]

Omly needs 1 of the tags to be hit

[white forge]

i read that as can be hit

or

nvm i just confused myself XD

[white forge]

ah k

[shadow harness]

I listed every metal unit that isn't a vehicle or tank

Or air unit cause that's irrelevant

[white forge]

cause wasnt sure if it was a scenario like if it has metal it cant be hit in a sense that cant be hit takes the prio over can be hit