EAC issue with VR Chat (again) - READ PINNED MESSAGES :-)

[maiden grove]

Im getting high now so Fak yasaaa IM ORDERIGN SUBWAY YALL

[proper quartz]

Lucky btch xd

[lucid glacier]

I got enough weed for everyone chat. Got me 3 ounces

[proper quartz]

Luckyyyy

[lucid glacier]

You just gotta tell me what strain

[lucid glacier]

I go to Michigan in quincy and ounces are 2 for $30

[proper quartz]

You got any hands in Florida xd

I will snag some xd

I miss being high omg

[lucid glacier]

Shiii if I could. Im throwing ya some weed my man. Im pretty strong so it should travel to your hand lol

[still creek]

It says that we can't talk about illegal stuff in this server =w= I dunno about you guys but I don't want yall getting in trouble.

[lucid glacier]

Its not illegal tho?

[proper quartz]

Some states its legal

[lucid glacier]

Its a medicine ^_^

[proper quartz]

Not all but some

[still creek]

I guess I'm looking too far into the rules. Hey I'm not a mod but I want yall to be safe lol

[proper quartz]

All g

[lucid glacier]

Ur all good ^_^

[proper quartz]

Just being safe, I respect it

[granite juniper]

[proper quartz]

Unrelated-

Yk I would consider chilloutvr but like - I doubt it would allow for the avis I use on vrc

[granite juniper]

in what context

[proper quartz]

More so just idk if i can use them

[still creek]

Yeah this is where I saw the rule at

[proper quartz]

Like okay

I upload my own avis I purchase and its like

Idk if vrc and chillout are the same in uploading process

[maiden grove]

Eheheheheheh

[still creek]

Mostly!

[maiden grove]

Their not

They are? Thought they didn’t use unity?

[proper quartz]

That isnt confusing in the slightest lmfao

[granite juniper]

They use Unity

[still creek]

They do

[neon violet]

Shadow is in queue but there’s nobody in it

[still creek]

They have their own sdk

[granite juniper]

so its easy to transfer VRC to CVR

[proper quartz]

For unity?

[neon violet]

it is NOT easy

[granite juniper]

BUTTT, the sdk is a bit of a learning curve

[neon violet]

fat lie

[proper quartz]

Ah okay

[maiden grove]

Well also for the illegal thing where I live it isn’t illegal so idk how that goes😭

[neon violet]

Learning curve my ahh

[proper quartz]

Pfffffft

[granite juniper]

im just following a YT tutorial

[proper quartz]

Link? (Dms if its easier idm)

[neon violet]

Learning freeway into oncoming traffic plowed down by six demerit trains and railed by 67 angry Karen’s on steroids more like

[still creek]

@left verge yes and this person can definitely help aswell. They been experienced for five years =w=

[still creek]

I dunno ethier I guess I'm just being a teachers pet lol

[proper quartz]

Then I have another question

Does it support fbt?

[still creek]

Yes

[proper quartz]

Aka slimes since venti is slime based

[still creek]

Yes

[proper quartz]

Okay cool

That was a big concern lmao

[still creek]

Nah I connect my slimes all the time.

[still creek]

If you need help with an avi lemme know

[granite juniper]

there's a converter that converts VRC avis to CVR avis inside in unity

[proper quartz]

Only annoying bit would be connecting my trackers to shadow lmfao

At least venti made a tutorial for it

[neon violet]

It’s not to hard tbh

[still creek]

This is not what you wanna do lol the converter break everythingggg

[proper quartz]

How do you do it? Like connecting them; i was told use Tailscale, Slime servers and SlimeFWD

[granite juniper]

i am a troubleshooter

[thorny geyser]

Mods might wanna take a look in the support tickets

[granite juniper]

i can suffer unity

[neon violet]

Converter my ahh more like evil download gadgets that sends you to the nine circles

[still creek]

Ohhhhh

[neon violet]

Yerp just like that

[proper quartz]

Oh okay cool

[granite juniper]

im gonna be the test monkey for this project

brb with the results

[humble imp]

You own a Vrc group called the royal furries?

[proper quartz]

No xd

[humble imp]

Wrong koda then

[left verge]

yes :3 sorry ive been dealing with in game people x3

[proper quartz]

I own one called The Pack of Chaos for my tiktok lmfao

[left verge]

anyone who wants to check cvr out hop on and join the Atelier instance

[jade mountain]

I'm having withdrawal from pcvr

[left verge]

i am there with some others

[proper quartz]

Sameeeee

[still creek]

Is it packed?

I'm guessing so lol I'll definitely come by

[left verge]

not entirely yet but getting there

we outdid the events running today x3

[still creek]

That's awesome!!

[left verge]

alot of good impressions made, i am optimistic atleast half will stay or return

[still creek]

I have a server full of the people you're with rn <3 it's a temp server :3 would you like to join?

[left verge]

sure, though my attention is more in game focused rn

we actually have a dev here but idk if they wanna reveal themselves yet

they just hanging seeing the chaos

[thorny geyser]

A vrchat dev?

[still creek]

Ahh gotcha =w= well if you guys would like to join just friend me ^^ no pushy

[still creek]

Cvr dev

[thorny geyser]

Oh

[neon violet]

you thought silly

[left verge]

CVR Dev

we have had vrc devs come around, current and ex

the former usually look around for things to copy

they have for 5 years now >.>

[still creek]

That's really dumb =n=

[undone cove]

Chilloutvr is okay. I really want to upload avatars to it though but idk how.

[still creek]

We can help <3

[undone cove]

Please

[still creek]

Dms!

[neon violet]

My dog is blowing up my room Rn

[drowsy bane]

Is it still down?

[still creek]

yes <3

[drowsy bane]

I been waiting all month for them to fix it and didn't even use my shadow pc thats sucks

[left verge]

they most likely will not fix it, VRChats track record isnt great

i highly reccomend checking out alternative platforms

I am a chilloutVR veteran but honestly, any vr game other than VRChat will reap better experiences

[foggy cliff]

so it’s done now

[left verge]

depends on your preferences

[foggy cliff]

Forever

[keen spruce]

dym if i ask for the link? i play cvr as well i js havent been on bc ive been sick lmao 😭🙏

[left verge]

pat emote but this server blocked external emojis :(

[still creek]

dms love!

[coral badger]

Oh dang

They fixed it then blocked it again

[drowsy bane]

Really? You mean in December

[coral badger]

Yeah, happened over a weekend as well and it was fixed by Monday

Idk if that will be the case here though, i havent been on in about a month and a half cuz of - personal stuff but then come back to this. Im gonna try and get an actual pc soon so that i dont have to deal with limitations. But shadowpc has been pretty good to work with, honestly im glad i can play the games i can to this day because of a virtual desktop

[stuck hatch]

What do you mean all month? It just happened last Friday.

[drowsy bane]

Not for me?

[jade mountain]

It's been almost 2weeks

[stuck hatch]

Oh no.

[fringe hornet]

?

[stuck hatch]

The update happened last Friday.

[coral badger]

Yeah happened December too

[stuck hatch]

Yep. Right before Christmas, then resolved shortly after.

[neon violet]

Cheers stinkies I’m in vc

[fringe hornet]

wdym?

[drowsy bane]

It was like the 14th the months about to end

I work so

[coral badger]

Yeah thats 10 days, almost two weeks

[neon violet]

Oh it’s fixed I just cried and the it fixed itself

[coral badger]

That means it heard youu

[fringe hornet]

waht fixed?

[sturdy pasture]

Hello?

[stuck hatch]

I'm pretty sure it went down last Friday the 16th. I was on that Wednesday and Thursday.

[lusty atlas]

your pfp and banner is so cute!!

[drowsy bane]

Thank you

[neon violet]

What game should I get FREE btw I’m not paying anything else on shadow until things r fixed

[maiden grove]

Btw to those who asked what to nyxs statement she meant her shadow pc not vrc.

[honest pawn]

I got a question

Will this be any good to run vr chat

[left verge]

honestly, aim lower, the newer cards barely punch any higher if you disable DLSS and frame gen

30 series and 40 series are still very viable cards

personally though i prefer AMD since they still make Graphics cards and not AI cards with a side of graphics

[honest pawn]

Got it bc this wat i got and 32gb ram storage im waiting to come in

[left verge]

i see

[still creek]

how to fix that drm message when you stream?

[inner portal]

CHAT I'M GONNA GO EEP NOW

[left verge]

not too bad

honestly if you went AMD cpu, go AMD gpu

its either AMD double or Intel NVidia

and with how mid intel is recently bleh

[stray badger]

They need to have vrchat fixed

[stray badger]

of your chatting being fixed

[neon violet]

Amd on top

[dull hill]

Your telling me ts still isn’t fixed

Bro

[elfin garnet]

Ofc not

[spice coyote]

Is anyone else having issues with loging in

[drowsy bane]

Yea

[drowsy bane]

Yes

[acoustic sundial]

WHAT..

[spice coyote]

Thought my stuff got hacked

[inner portal]

Its been the 9th day..

[spice coyote]

Thank got

[spice coyote]

Day 3 of not touching grass (to cold)

[honest pawn]

Dm me

[left verge]

chillouts numbers are calming down now for anyone who felt overwhelmed with the 30 plus in one lobby earlier

[velvet fox]

Can only pray that EAC & VRC can come up with a solution for all this so we all can go back to playing vrc <3.

[devout zodiac]

Still?

[neon violet]

How do I result my avi I finally got it in blender

[thorny geyser]

Chats quiet now huh

[neon violet]

At the worst time it took an hour to import my avi

[thorny geyser]

Thats insane

[jade mountain]

I'm having withdraw

[thorny geyser]

I think we all are

[swift latch]

play chillout, trust

[pallid cosmos]

I think most people gave up trying to see if any progress will come from this whole situation and I don't blame them

[viscid shoal]

My friends tested my avi in vr and took pics for me and now im sad i cant get on to see for myself T- T

[pallid cosmos]

Cause most of the time they just be doing the spider man pointing at Spider-Man

[swift latch]

learning cvr's camera btw

[honest pawn]

I run vrchat on ultra would this work

[swift latch]

not w 6 gb ram

and a 3050 isnt the best either

[true plank]

So i downloaded the chillout game, gonna hop on and see what its about , im also in the process of trying to convert my avi and I must say its a headache worthy process,

[left verge]

you need a PC with atleast 16GB of ram for 2026

less is going to struggle more with modern titles

VR especially is VRAM hungry

honestly forget NVIDIA choose AMD

you get more VRAM and usually better framerates

[swift latch]

wanna join our server?

[left verge]

i cannot say how well they run in VRC but in CVR my AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT runs pretty quick

i keep my FPS capped at 60 though so my overhead goes to rendering more stuff

[true plank]

That would be lovely, please

[left verge]

porting is rather simple, just make sure to try forgo any automated systems, the manual process is harder but the work pays off

[analog spruce]

I got a pro 6000 back home

[left verge]

vrc has turned very much to automation so much so going without is almost out of the question

[left verge]

im rather new to the AMD sphere so i assume thats a really cool card x3

[pallid cosmos]

That looks so similar to vrc Avi, makes me kinda want to look into it

[analog spruce]

Surprisingly intel too. The b580 has s great amount for the cheap ass price

[left verge]

my desktop i baught off cyberpower a month ago

[left verge]

Intel is a good choice but too new for me to want to put an egg in their basket

[pallid cosmos]

So chat we calling it that we're giving up on the fix situation now

[left verge]

i wanna see them prove themselves

[analog spruce]

I am more of an intel guy myself, but I had to go for amd because no intel cpu had the core count I wanted

[left verge]

honestly, ripping the bandaid off, its unlikely anything will change, and even if it does, VRC will dump you all again when its convenient for them.

i left 5 years ago when they tried to ban modding for the 2nd time before EAC, and since they keep making the same mistakes and getting worse

so i chose to cast my vote of disapproval by leaving entirely

since then ive had the best years for VR ive ever had

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah I agree, because I think that it mainly fingers pointing at vrchat and they apparently lie a lot, so when they say there's no configuration they can fix it's them in other words saying we're not going to do anything

[left verge]

and ive played VRC since its humble beginnings

[analog spruce]

Yeah im 6 years into vrc, first time playing is 8 years ago but my first account was 6 years ago

[swift latch]

i uploaded her lol

[pallid cosmos]

Ohhhh okay now I get it

[left verge]

they have done nothing but lie since they lost control to their investors, they have no creative control and continue to be anti consumer, their team are also PDFs and have had it proven many times over

they also mis spend their funding to things like boats and jetskis which has been further repeated by staff who got laid off

[pallid cosmos]

So like Nintendo lol 😂

Not exactly

[left verge]

its a platform fueled by lies and deception and i wanted no part of it, so i left

[left verge]

ASRock steel? i got one of those, i can definitely say its a decent choice

[pallid cosmos]

I don't blame you honestly, I barely know stuff about vrc other then what has mainly been talked about here, then of course it's PDF issue

[honest pawn]

Bett

[left verge]

12GB is better than 8 or 6 if your on a budget

[swift latch]

my bf uploaded this one

[honest pawn]

Bc thts the best I can find for my budget

[left verge]

I could go on for hours about vrchats negative things, i try not to since id rather show people the platform i chose to succeed it

[honest pawn]

And I got 32 gb of ddr4 ram coming to

[left verge]

but i wont glaze CVR either, it has its own fair share of issues but they stem from another spectrum

[velvet fox]

EAC was never aware says a lot at this point. Just proves my theory of them doing stuff behind closed doors.

[left verge]

my negatives for CVR mostly are a "I love this thing so much, so i will hate on it in some ways to hopefully see them change" but overall my view of CVR is its near perfection

[left verge]

they always are, investors control every decision they make

[left verge]

not bad, though my personal choice would have been to aim for a future proofed build

[velvet fox]

I'm currently on cvr and I'm not liking it thus far.

[left verge]

i shilled more clams to get myself a DDR5 AM5 motherboard, so i can make sure im futureproofed

[velvet fox]

It's nothing compared to vrc

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah the email about it I saw them saying they weren't aware so it was a intentional choice vrc did and lied about working on it

[left verge]

it is a micro ATX board but in a full ATX case, so i have plenty room

and i can always just buy a full ATX mobo

i recently changed the cooler out of it though, the cooler that Cyberpower put in it was a joke

[velvet fox]

So VRC is full on lying to our faces and practically telling us it ain't their problem.

[left verge]

this cooler i have is a bit overkill for my CPU but it too is futureproofed for when i get bigger CPUs

[thorny geyser]

Here's the thing i dont have a physical computer so I cant convert my avis to chilloutvr avis T^T

[pallid cosmos]

Vrc: kick rocks noobs buy a 3k gaming PC to play out "social game"

[left verge]

the issue is your comparing it to VRC, cvr is more akin to Garrys Mod with native VR

CVR is also still years eariler in development than VRC

CVR released in 2020, VRChat released in 2015

[honest pawn]

I have this case lol

[left verge]

not bad, just hope you did your measurements

[honest pawn]

And the ram is from viper the parts are from my older bro old set up he just upgraded

[maiden grove]

[left verge]

before RAMMAGEDON you could get a decent rig for 1k easy

[rigid coral]

cvr is practically a copy of vrc, just tryna be cooler and more accessible it seems? lol

[left verge]

my desktop cost me 1K before but then it shot up to 1400 ish

[velvet fox]

I'm only saying that it's nothing like it. I just don't like it in my opinion.

[left verge]

not quite.
CVR is a sandbox title with UGC content, the long term idea is effectively Garrys mod but you can create self contained games like you can in roblox

[pallid cosmos]

Atp I'm probably gonna try to save to get one, I just wanna be sure I can use obs,TikTok studio and all my steamvr stuff to work smoothly

Cause I hate using cast to stream to shadow PC

I think TikTok is limiting my reach because the quality is ass

[honest pawn]

Ima save to get ddr5 tho or even ddr6

[rigid coral]

have you personally compared the two games..?? i’ve played cvr a handful of times, it’s the same concept to me.

[left verge]

so in the future once we get Web Assembly scripting and GS2 (Gameservers 2.0) it would be possible to create game worlds that can save and load data and have extremely complex behaviors and functions written in basically any programming language

[green saffron]

Is it up?

[velvet fox]

No

[left verge]

i have played both, they are similar yes, but back when i left VRChat, they were entirely different, every new feature VRChat has added since i left have been taken from CVR or other VR titles

not saying they cant have those features, they can, we didnt patent them, but its still sad VRChat is now just chasing other platforms features and making worse versions

like their Paid spawnables

[delicate viper]

Goodnight friends I pray this week can be it

[left verge]

nobody wants a single use paid spawnable

[swift latch]

we used shadow pc to do so + we'd upload it for u if needed

[blissful geyser]

Sad nada

[pallid cosmos]

I don't wanna shoot your hopes down but in afraid it probably won't it's not confirmed but atp it's a active choice vrc made to block shadow

[rigid coral]

The paid spawnables no clue, but the other features, users begged for as far as i’m aware

[left verge]

they dont listen to begging, they listen to other platforms having those features and taking their userbase from them

[swift latch]

chillout had a lot of them first btw

[left verge]

thats what incentivises them to act

[rigid coral]

i’m not saying they didn’t

[left verge]

VRC only got props recently since CVR, and even resonite now have props of their own and alot of people really enjoy them

[rigid coral]

they’re saying cvr and vrc isn’t similar, i may have responded to the wrong person buuut

[left verge]

i mean, they have their similarities, but the overall project goals are completely different

[calm gust]

so we all on the same page that vrc not coming back

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah unfortunately

[rigid coral]

don’t include me in we

[left verge]

the VRC i used to play died in 2018

[rigid coral]

i have hope

[swift latch]

don't knock it til u have actively tried it. we all said the same and then we played, now we love it.

[rigid coral]

?? i have tried cvr

i’m so confused

[left verge]

personally id say its misplaced, they lost my hope and continue to give me reasons to not place it in them

[pallid cosmos]

I do but I'm not getting my hopes up all talk and emails have lead the finger being pointed back to vrc being it's main culprit to this block

[swift latch]

they're not all that similar tbf. cvr did not rip off vrchat.

[left verge]

depends how long, CVR is a platform where you need to spend a decent time meeting people and socialising, seeing the systems and playing with them yourself

walking in and comparing it to your preferred platform will give you more reasons to distaste it

[swift latch]

did u actively make friends and learn all the features/ui?

[rigid coral]

i’m not hating on cvr whatsoever i’m genuinely confused right now LOL

[left verge]

i did on my first visit, but i came back a few times, saw my original opinions were a bit squed

[left verge]

I know your not
i am just curious

ive seen so many bad reviews for CVR with less than an hour playtime saying its a copy

[swift latch]

this lowkey comes off as you insulting it???

[rigid coral]

i don’t think cvr is bad whatsoever, and i have actively tried learning it, i’m not one who can make friends easily, personally, and i have my vrc friends who are either quest or don’t wanna go thru the hassle of switching over

[rigid coral]

that wasn’t my intention, i was saying it was cooler & more accessible

[left verge]

honestly, thats fine, one suggestion is just, set aside a day or two in the week to play CVR instead of VRC, just make sure your choosing times when its active, CVR does have times where theres almost nobody on, because the main community are EU - US and a large chunk are active workers

[lament night]

Any tutorials on how to convert avis?

[left verge]

so the days for me are usually super quiet and the nights are lively

[rigid coral]

i said copy as in how similar they are, not to downplay it.

[left verge]

video tutorials are usually outdated, check the games official discord for good porting tips <3

[rigid coral]

i’m sure cvr is great, and i’m sure i’d love it if i made an effort to meet people, but i already have a game i don’t have to put effort into to find people — which is vrchat

[calm gust]

i feel bad for you

wasting ur time on this is pointless

[rigid coral]

sorry if it seemed like i was dissing on cvr, it’s late, tryna tone my texts a certain way is difficult.

[left verge]

thats honestly fine, just know the doors open if you wanna check it out some more

it took me a year before i even spoke to people with an AI voice x3

[rigid coral]

eh i have a backup plan if all else fails so it’s fine

[left verge]

and two before i used my real one

[median cedar]

Can someone upload an Avi for me on cvr I can pay

[rigid coral]

if i can figure it out tomorrow i can, no payment needed

[left verge]

this is a question for the official discord, though with how easy it is, you can probrably manage to pull off a basic port to CVR in about an hour if you have some help from the official channels

[median cedar]

Tyyy

[left verge]

i would be happy to give pointers but i will be hitting the hay soon since its nearly 5AM o.o

[median cedar]

So something like this

[echo steppe]

any good news🥲

[left verge]

Nope, I doubt this is getting reversed

if it were something they wanted to undo, its a single edit to their EAC implementation

[echo steppe]

oh lord

[left verge]

but they keep pretending they cant fix it and trying to make EPIC fix it

when its not an EPIC issue

its almost like using a free implementation of an anticheat for a multi million invested platform isnt a good idea

[pallid cosmos]

Would anyone happen to know how to get the quality better casting on quest 3 using shadow, anyone have ideas?

[left verge]

having anticheat at all instead of a server authoritative system is a bad idea

[neon violet]

That one gets a lot of whine according to reviews I looked at before

[left verge]

Higher Mbps connection to the server

[pallid cosmos]

Higher bitrate on shadow?

[left verge]

streaming is always prone to quality issues, which get worse the worse connection you have

[neon violet]

I’d recommend a 7900 that’s what I got v quite v white and pretty

[left verge]

if your internet is strong enough

[neon violet]

Only 2k

[pallid cosmos]

But the casting is done though a web browser is the thing

[left verge]

the issue with streaming, especially to areas out of your network, your prone to slower speeds or packet loss

[neon violet]

Asrock not v magical gpu but v magical other stuff

[left verge]

if you run a speedtest.net youll see the Mbps your wifi can send to the WAN

i have a gigabit plan so i get 900Mbps down and 100 up
so my streaming to external networks can reach 900Mbps at its best

internally however, 2400Mbps between my PC and my quest

ideally for streaming something like VR having a high Mbps plan is good, most houses get a gigabit at best

or if your lucky a corpo plan which gets you more

but i usually see people with 500Mbit plans

[pallid cosmos]

I'm so sorry that went over my head, I'm a bit slow

[left verge]

just go to speedtest.net and check your speed

try to reduce the traffic to your network while you run it

it makes your results less wrong

[lament night]

Has someone tried this?

[thorny geyser]

Thats for an issue regarding players being disconnected from ingame by eac

[left verge]

this is my result, little lower than my actual speed because i use a VPN but its still pretty good

[pallid cosmos]

Mainly have a Ethernet cable and the wifi is on my headset mainly

[left verge]

ethernet is good

as for wifi, make sure your wifi is 5 or 6Ghz compatible

the latter is sufficient bandwith to make the quest 3 stream data at its maximum supported bitrate

[pallid cosmos]

Iv heard about this but I already deleted vrc from shadow so I can't test this to see

[pallid cosmos]

I believe it's 6

[left verge]

even if theres workarounds, if they truely plan to keep shadows out, account bans would be next

[thorny geyser]

Who wants to test it then

[cold arrow]

that will not do nothing for us

[thorny geyser]

I figured

[pallid cosmos]

I wonder if downgrading vrc will do anything if you went to a previous version if that's even possible

[left verge]

ive had a hunch for a while VRChat wants to rid PCVR users entirely from their platform to make way to the more profitable mobile and standalone users, forcing would be questies off their PCVR lifelines is one such behavior that encourages my theory

they have been slowly shifting away from PCVR and towards standalone for a while

[thorny geyser]

Wth?

[thorny geyser]

Dawg are they trying to kill their own game?

[left verge]

its not something they outright said, but its what i have observed and it would make sense

[left verge]

i mean, when are they not

[honest pawn]

My fault for the ping lol

[left verge]

they nuked mods, then undid it, re did it, undid it again, then dropped an anticheat for a stupid reason that ruined the game, and now they are pulling quest users who wanna be PCVR away from being PCVR

and thats just skipping most of their other bad decisions

[pallid cosmos]

I keep saying that vrchat needs to have the Roblox incident to them

[maiden grove]

I wouldn’t say they r trying to kill pcvr entirely just shadow/ any VMs honestly

[pallid cosmos]

Is it even possible to play on a old version of vrc?

[left verge]

they arent yet, but they are taking little shuffles towards it

its more profitable if they do because it means they have a single unified platform where there isnt such thing as PC and quest content

less dev cost, more children to use their parents cards for VRC+

[left verge]

nah, they would lock that down

ChilloutVR does that, you can play with some versions but often times the game will not let you join if your build is old enough

[pallid cosmos]

Damn, I would continue to say something along the lines of bypassing but I would rather not encourage that

[lament night]

One says they are in contact one doesn't

Its over

[rigid gyro]

@swift latch ayy pm me your cvr! Imma get on tonight with the girlie

[livid basin]

Officially buying a PC because of all this. I've appreciated Shadow the entire time I've used it.

[molten yacht]

Damn , It’s Over . 😭

[cobalt siren]

wittch one is connecting??

[left verge]

if its your first, go prebuilt

i went with mine, i have learned a bit about PC building reverse tinkering mine

[livid basin]

I'm doin a pre built, 100%. Taking advantage of this nice deal I found at RAC, but it's better than not having one at this point

[runic crystal]

I’m getting a starter for $900 then going from there

[livid basin]

My first PC is costin me less than $250 from the deal I snagged lol

[runic crystal]

From where??!

[left verge]

mine was 1400 after the ramprice hikes

[livid basin]

Rent a Center clearance section ✨

[swift latch]

E m p y r e a l

[left verge]

but i wanted to shill more for long term support

[runic crystal]

Hmmm

[wet kite]

I may go Facebook marketplace pc

[left verge]

if i wanna upgrade its just upgrading the PSU and whatever part i wanna upgrade

[livid basin]

It's viable, I'm paying bout $50 per paycheck, and it's gonna be paid off in two months lol

[runic crystal]

Damn

I’ma have to get on this

[rigid gyro]

No fancy numbers or nothin?

[vapid blaze]

So chat do we give up or wait till Monday for some news

Since apparently it’s the weekend

[livid basin]

I'm personally givin' up. Been a loyal customer for over a year just for VRC, and it just doesn't feel like it's worth it anymore

[left verge]

personal choice, rip the cope band aid off, leave

VRChat couldnt care less about you, go to a platform that does

CVR, resonite, Insert whatever small new developing VR game here

any game other than VRC wants you, and will gladly warmly accept you

the quality of people youll meet is higher too

[raw sedge]

Yeah and the process for resonite and vrc for upload is pretty similar i'm pretty sure (as far as blender goes)

[left verge]

they are lying, they can re enable it on their end

they turned it off

EAC's settings to block VMS or certain platforms are developer controlled

[vapid blaze]

Well chat I guess that’s gg then ughh I hate companies now

[raw sedge]

Time for us to either move to resonite or chillout vr

[vapid blaze]

Crazy thing is that I only got play it for 2 hours then that’s when it happened damn

[left verge]

either works, resonite if your highly technical, CVR if your more casual

[vapid blaze]

We lost the War gg chat

[runic crystal]

Damn

[vapid blaze]

[fleet wagon]

Is it confirmed?

[vapid blaze]

People are already giving up

[icy stream]

eh im holding out tbh

[foggy cliff]

What it’s over ??

[icy stream]

i use shadow gor more than jus vrc anyhow

[rigid gyro]

Me too

[vapid blaze]

Well in my point of view nobody wants to listen about what’s going on

[foggy cliff]

It don’t they close thread

It’s not going work

[raven isle]

We are listening. It’s just tiring hearing the same thing over and over again.

[raw sedge]

It's not that nobody wants to listen, It's the fact this has gone out for over a week and happened at Christmas too

[vapid blaze]

No I mean Vrc and epic they don’t want to listen about what’s happening

[raven isle]

It’s not epic. Epic stated that it’s not them

[raw sedge]

Oh okay my misunderstanding, Sorry

[ionic lion]

so did vrc in there last annocement also said to contact shadows team

[raw sedge]

It's not shadows fault though

[vapid blaze]

Well it’s vrc then or idk both of them are still pointing fingers at each other

[raw sedge]

Each company is pointing fingers toward the others

[left verge]

VRC disables VM access so they can blame Epic and shadow, when its neither of their issue

vrc chose to revoke VM access

[raven isle]

At this point, they’re just pointing fingers at each other lol

[left verge]

the only one that does work is Geforce Now because they are buddy buddy with nvidia

but that has a time limit

[icy stream]

spiderman meme

[vapid blaze]

Shadow and epic are the only two have confirmed that they can’t do anything about it epic said that vrc has to Change their EAC to fix

[thorny geyser]

Right i forgot about the chat filter

[thorny geyser]

And moth showed screenshots of them saying exactly that and tupper deleted them

[foggy cliff]

If enough people complain tho vrc wil have do something

[thorny geyser]

And then locked the thread

[left verge]

typical

[left verge]

thats exactly how they behave when they are lying

[runic crystal]

We’re cooked period

[thorny geyser]

I witnessed it

[runic crystal]

It’ll probably happen again if this gets fixed

[vapid blaze]

Idk what to do

[foggy cliff]

Me too

[thorny geyser]

When moth showed the convos with shadow and epic support. Both sides pointed to vrchat. And tupper or one of his goons deleted the screenshots and then locked the thread right after

[vapid blaze]

I’m fina do something crazy to tupper

I swear

[foggy cliff]

I duno why they would block shadow tho they did it before Xmas n again now they could fix it before why not now

[left verge]

try out competing platforms

CVR has already taken a good chunk of shadows under its wing

not sure about other platforms

[near valve]

Damn T^T

[raven isle]

They said something about hackers, but if that was the case why didn’t you ban shadow a long time ago?

[near valve]

I don't want this to be over

[left verge]

because its not about the "hackers"

[vapid blaze]

Aghhhhhhhh

[left verge]

EAC was about the hackers, and nothing changed

[vapid blaze]

Fuc what to do aghhhhh man

[foggy cliff]

I duno wht do now

[thorny geyser]

Ive already accepted that this is permanent. Its quite obvious vrc wont fix it.

[left verge]

try other VR platforms, try to free yourself of the VRC cope

[foggy cliff]

I can use desktop on my normal pc

[left verge]

i know how hard it can be, i used to have WILD vrc cope

[foggy cliff]

But I want my pcvr back for vrc on vr

[left verge]

kinda hate how hard i went

[left verge]

sadly its never coming back

[raw sedge]

It may in the future but as it stands, We're cooked chat

[foggy cliff]

Someone needs close this thread then I gues

[thorny geyser]

They should probably close this thread if thats the case

We fought well

[foggy cliff]

Yeah I think so too

[lament night]

I did it was reopened

[left verge]

keep the thread tbh, tell all the other shadows about the better platforms

[vapid blaze]

I hate dumb founded people aka vrc dev’s

[left verge]

redirect the refugees to platforms that will apriciate them

[lament night]

I think we need to keep this on topic so we can keep any new updates without scrolling

[left verge]

just pin any relevant news

[lament night]

Cant only mods can

[vapid blaze]

I’m try to survive till Monday

[left verge]

but so far, VRC blame epic and shadow, shadow and epic both say its a VRC skill issue

anyone who knows how Anti Cheats work, know its a VRC issue

they chose to disable VM support

[raven isle]

The more money vrc makes the less they could give a damn about VM users lols okay chat

[raw sedge]

And yet they're gonna be losing a ton of money now that this happened

[thorny geyser]

They wont

Its probably why they revoked vm access

They dont need us anymore

[vapid blaze]

The greed goes crazy for vrc

[thorny geyser]

Fr

All they care about is money

They're corrupt

[left verge]

the investors didnt like people bypassing their all powerful anticheat

so nuke ability for people to bypass HWID bans with VMs

[vapid blaze]

Hmmmm

[foggy cliff]

I think cos of all the people using it tho I think they wil eventually fix it up again

Prob take months tho

[thorny geyser]

They wont

If that was the case they would have fixed it by now

Vrchat abandoned and betrayed us

So we're on our own

[left verge]

VRChat abandons anyone whenever its most relevant

[hexed lava]

So is it official its gone?

[foggy cliff]

Peoples jobs are on there and they know not everyone can afford a gaming pc

[thorny geyser]

I already unsubscribed from shadow. Im not gonna keep paying for a service if I cant access the game I bought it for

[foggy cliff]

So they wil loose money and stuff

[thorny geyser]

Again they don't care hun

[foggy cliff]

I would love to leave shadow but I can’t because I use it for inzoi n other games

[thorny geyser]

Look these sre the type of people that would kill their entire community if it made them rich

[vapid blaze]

Maybe on 5th business day there might be something

[thorny geyser]

They think about their wallets not their playerbase

[vapid blaze]

I’ll to survive

[hexed lava]

Its been a week

[thorny geyser]

Its been 10 days hun

[vapid blaze]

It’s only been 4 business

[hexed lava]

Nope

[vapid blaze]

Yes

[thorny geyser]

They wont fix it. If they truely cared it would have been fixed by now

[foggy cliff]

Yeah wasent it a holiday recently

[thorny geyser]

A federal holiday

[latent loom]

It has, dont count the weekends. They dont work on the weekendd

[vapid blaze]

See

I was right

[foggy cliff]

ah man

I’m going have look gaming laptops I guess least with graphics card

[latent loom]

Yall be saying its been 10 days, no. Its been 4 buieness days so i mean they could fix it,

[left verge]

laptops are NOT worth it, talking from experience

[foggy cliff]

Just so I can use vrc in pcvr cos my pc now can only use vrc desktop

[left verge]

they cost the same as desktops of equal performance if not more than them

[foggy cliff]

I have to no room for a desktop

So laptops r ok for me

[left verge]

the PC i have now, its pre ramgeddon price was Less than my old laptop was

[vapid blaze]

Indeed they did shadow support even confirmed that they don’t work on the weekends and Monday was a holiday

[foggy cliff]

Pcs are over 1k or more

[left verge]

honestly, wait for Steam Machine if your short on space

[foggy cliff]

I can’t afford that lmao

[hexed lava]

Its been 10 days and they haven't fixed it so it hasn't been 4 days

[left verge]

not if you choose good parts

[vapid blaze]

Bruh

[left verge]

just pick some older gen components

[latent loom]

Yeahh exactly, ppl dont got patience. Let em cook

[hexed lava]

Ama just cancle my shadow pc on the 10th and leave it at that

[fleet wagon]

Remember

a GTX 1660 can run vrchat. I’ve seen it myself. Any Modern GPU including a 3060-5060 can run PCVR Vrc.

[foggy cliff]

I duno about building pcs lmao I want something there n then n portable I can take on holiday

[hexed lava]

I found a good pc for 1.8k which I hope to get on my next paycheck

[foggy cliff]

What’s a 3060 5060

Is that nvadia or

[vapid blaze]

My guitar is more than then that

[hexed lava]

Good for u

[foggy cliff]

I can’t afford 1 k lol

[vapid blaze]

Yeah guitars are more expensive then pc

[foggy cliff]

My bf has a laptop 8 years old n it ran pcvr

[left verge]

definitely aim for something like the Steam Machine, or micro PCs

you CAN make small PCs that punch way above their size

some can fit in your hand :3

[foggy cliff]

Yeah for 100s lol

[left verge]

not entirely, just find a good source
My pc wasnt that bad but i took too long

[vapid blaze]

New game plan

We wait till the next business day which is on Monday so let’s hope for some good news

[left verge]

it was about 940 in my currency, but then its price hiked to 1400 and i had to grab before i missed it

[foggy cliff]

L

[vapid blaze]

That’s the last straw we have

[foggy cliff]

Wil this work then I get a screen mouse keyboard

Or this one

Anyone

[hexed lava]

Whats that

[limpid depot]

no, not that model of mini

[foggy cliff]

Mini pc

[hexed lava]

Ohh

[foggy cliff]

why it’s a gaming one

[hexed lava]

Ama get my pc from Costco

[foggy cliff]

so what graphics card does it need

I duno what Ryzan is

[hexed lava]

[foggy cliff]

This one

32gb ram

[elfin garnet]

Anything yet?

[hexed lava]

Nope probs wont change from what im seeing

[elfin garnet]

Figured

[velvet fox]

It will get fixed eventually

[elfin garnet]

Do you know that

[valid cosmos]

Idk if it will, it's a lot of back and forth with Epic/Tupper and shadow. Kinda not getting a straight answer from any of them

It's been over a week now

[vague belfry]

well eac apparently didnt know so either eac is lying or vrc did it

[tribal nacelle]

Bruh it’s all over tik tok now lol
Also this had me dead

[boreal latch]

lol

[velvet fox]

EAC was never made aware. Which says a lot. It proves my theory that VRC was doing s**t behind closed doors. Without their knowledge.

[fresh ridge]

So you think now that they're made aware of the situation, that they'll fix it?

[velvet fox]

Absolutely

[fresh ridge]

I wonder how long ago that they were made aware

[velvet fox]

.

So it’s up to VRC.

Got it.

[lament night]

I guess

[velvet fox]

This is so bs man

I just want to play vrc again!

[lament night]

Idk maybe its a company negotiation instead of support teams knowing

[velvet fox]

True

[thorny geyser]

Show that to tupper

I wanna see him delete it so I can take that as evidence of them doing stuff behind closed doors

[lusty atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/tentofate-elmo-elmo-staring-gif-11901234066681497328

damnit

[lament night]

I tried

No response

[thorny geyser]

If they delete it ima crash out

[velvet fox]

This came from a friend of mine

[rigid coral]

tbh it’s weird, because if that was the issue, why were multiple games blocked by VM at the same time?

[velvet fox]

VRC BOUGHT THE RIGHTS to use EAC in the first place so they don’t have a choice but to fix it.

Otherwise they would lose money.

[lament night]

Im not sure

[foggy cliff]

Can’t be vrc then if other games

[lament night]

I know fortnite got blocked recently

[ionic lion]

Also isn’t it weird people started having so many issues with shadow pc after vrc stopped working it has to be more then just a vrc issue

[foggy cliff]

See if they fix it this week coming

[foggy cliff]

Can’t be vrc then

[fresh ridge]

I almost crashed out tonight bc I was so much more helpful as a pcvr player, bc I could play music for people and also dance.. this is bulls***

as a questie, I can't do anything :<

[vague belfry]

thats how i feel

[foggy cliff]

Yeah quest sucks

[vague belfry]

feel handicapped and its diminishing

[fresh ridge]

it really is

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah I feel the frustration my lives on TikTok are getting limited because of the bad quality on casting though shadow pc

Normally it's popping off on pcvr but because you can't stream using quest on the vrc camera I get limited

[normal vigil]

Hopefully by Monday or Tuesday this is fixed and we'll be able to get our VRChat lives back on track and it stays that way.

[spice coyote]

[brazen sundial]

Should I continue

Should I really believe ?

[thin valley]

Believe honey, we just gotta be patient

[thorny geyser]

No

Or believe up to u

[normal vigil]

I would say yes because if you let that go and VRChat is working again then I don't know or save up to get a gaming laptop or a computer.

[rare edge]

Make em listen

[brazen sundial]

I have a pc but I can’t use it cause college WiFi is butttt

[normal vigil]

You can still use it for VRChat and other games.

I'm sure that college WiFi or college themselves doesn't keep you busy all the time, right?

[left verge]

keep your shadow subs, just try other games

There is Salvation

@sudden monolith i think this is you, you dont need to close the game to switch to or from vr

we have a system to let you switch on the fly

even if steam VR crashes

[sudden monolith]

oh

[oblique phoenix]

Good job looks great

[left verge]

thanks :3 still working on that

[swift latch]

anyone wanna join our lil chilloutvr server?

[sudden monolith]

🤨

[fringe hornet]

ive never touched it before untill yesterday so unless sum 1 is wlling to show me the ropes on how to set settings finna pass

[pallid cosmos]

This isn't a EAC issue it's vrchats

[swift latch]

we will

[pallid cosmos]

I still fully believe they are the ones intentionally blocking it

[fringe hornet]

dm me then

[pallid cosmos]

I would chill but me tired and a bit buzzed

[left verge]

they 10000% are

else they wouldnt cover up the posts from epic and shadow directly calling them out for their disabling of it

[pallid cosmos]

Wait what? They covered up posts of epic and shadow calling them out? Do you have any screenshots of it?

That's news to me

[left verge]

screenshots cannot show them deleting posts

[pallid cosmos]

Oh thought maybe you would have my bad

[left verge]

multiple people here have said they saw them doing it

there was a thread link here earlier, but apparently they nuked the thread that link went to

[pallid cosmos]

Oh yeah think I remember people in here saying they were deleting it

They know their guilty

But at this point I don't think anything can be done unless it's some sort of awareness that can be spread, but idk if that will even press them to do anything

I just see it as them limiting their income like why do that if you can make more money

[rare edge]

That’s why I’m leaving a bad review on VRC in the steam store, upset that they aren’t doing anything

[pallid cosmos]

Oh gotcha

[barren yew]

EAC is to blame cause u can’t even play some of their games that is under their protection if they under their free plan then u can’t play the game but if the game is under paid protection u can play the game

[left verge]

EAC supports VMs, its the developers that choose what they allow

its why some anticheats dont work on linux, Battleeye and EAC have proton support, but devs have to toggle it

[wise acorn]

Any news?

[left verge]

VRChat are the ones who disabled VM access.

[barren yew]

VRC has the free plan they can’t change nun

[pallid cosmos]

I think unless vrchat brings back access to shadow we're staying blocked

[left verge]

exactly

[wise acorn]

Oml

Yeah I’m done with shadow and Vrchat

[pallid cosmos]

Alex mentioned there is a paid version which they can control more

[barren yew]

But didn’t tupper say sum yesterday

[wise acorn]

Why the hell would we buy that?

[pallid cosmos]

Sorry to break that to you

[pallid cosmos]

Tupper is a AI that just says the same sh

Ai as a joke

[barren yew]

🤦🏽‍♂️a switch on is not hard

It’s been like this since last Friday

[pallid cosmos]

No and it's confusing why they would, your losing profit by limiting VMS unless it's a security issue but even then they allowed it for many years so why was this just suddenly blocked

[left verge]

because VRC always choose the bad dialogue options

[barren yew]

And then update the game

[pallid cosmos]

Hahaha yeah like taking the deviant route in Detroit become human

[barren yew]

🤦🏽‍♂️VRC devs always fix sum that Nb asked to be fixed

[left verge]

fr

but yeah, so far epic and shadow both said its VRC at fault, and vrc are just pretending they are not the cause

your entitled to your hopium of playing VRC again but its super unlikely

if you feel like it, joining the many other shadows who explored alternative platforms is an option

[barren yew]

Half their players down the drain

[left verge]

ChilloutVR has had a massive surge today of shadows and honestly they are all so nice :3

[barren yew]

😓ngl i got traumatized from that game

But wen ppl start to migrate to they copycat I bet u they gon find a issue resolver

[left verge]

huh?

my sleep deprived tiredness makes that hard to understand

[hexed crypt]

[left verge]

aah your here too eh?

that makes two CVR nerds :3

[hexed crypt]

mhm, been here a while :3

[cobalt siren]

im gonna try to wait

[left verge]

to all who do wait, do try checking out other places in the meantime

[ocean rover]

I'll get chill out vr the next time i feel like getting on

[cobalt siren]

in my opinion, i hate chillout vr, so im just gonna stick with desktop

till i buy a new desktop

no offense to those who go in chillout vr, i just dont like it in my personal opinion

[swift latch]

when was the last time you tried it?

[vapid blaze]

Or play vail

[devout zodiac]

Someone find me the cheapest pre build

But like make it like super good

[swift latch]

rent 2 own

[hexed lava]

[left verge]

check cyberpower

they did price adjust to new ram prices but they are still pretty good

if you dont wanna aim for a upgradeable PC and just want a PC. they have good options using older hardware

you can also check facebook marketplace theres ALOT of old PCs going around

personally i ate a higher PC cost because i wanted latest generation stuff
aka AM5 motherboard with DDR5 ram
but the hardware attached to that Motherboard isnt too crazy

[thorny geyser]

Thats where im buying my pc from

I ain't buying from alienware ever again

[left verge]

Alienware is NOT a good brand

[thorny geyser]

I learned that the hardway

[left verge]

yeah :(

most do
alienware hasnt ever been the same since dell took them

[thorny geyser]

The power supply caught fire

Destroyed my old pc

[left verge]

pre 2010s alienware was unstoppable, now its a sad husk of a better age

[boreal latch]

is apex gaming pc good at all?

[left verge]

i know alot of people here use shadow because budget, but honestly if you can manage a long term upgrade capable PC, reach for one

[thorny geyser]

Mines gonna take a couple paychecks

[left verge]

i did with mine and im now set for 15 years

[thorny geyser]

At least a month or 2

[left verge]

i can slow grade my PC till my AM5 socket gets dropped

[thorny geyser]

Maybe more

[left verge]

my next upgrade is most likely the CPU

[devout zodiac]

Where can i find it

[fleet wagon]

Cheap entry

Learn to swap parts and etc yourself

Be scared due to no warranty

Insane deals tho on there. I just saw a 3090 24GB For 800

[left verge]

i 1000% voided my warranty for my pc eheh

i installed a beefy cpu cooler

[undone vault]

Chillout vr saved my fath in vr social games tbh I’ve been playing VR chat for seven years. It went from being a fun place to hang out and be goofy to a melodramatic cesspool of debauchery and I don’t use that word lightly

[left verge]

CVR can go from 0 - 100 in a moment depending on who shows up, its always a blast

and the sheer number of self moderation tools means anything you dont like can be removed at a moments notice

[vapid iron]

Is this still a chat for the EAC issue with shadow pc cause it looks like a bunch of random conversation now

[oak summit]

Its more a conversation of people coping with the loss of access to vrchat. This entire community post is like... a very physical and viewable representation of the five stages of grief. We're in the acceptance stage. 31135 messages deep, and we've finally reached acceptance.

Congrats guys. \o/

[left verge]

i am just a helper from beyond the veil trying to show people other platforms exist and are a viable alternative

[plush lantern]

we've accepted moving to CVR lmao

[left verge]

i spent most of today doing that, well yesterday, its now 9 AM and i havent slept lol

[plush lantern]

ive even written an entire guide on how to make avatars and im currently updating it to include physics and toggles

[rustic sleet]

is the lost of access to vrchat is Temp?

[left verge]

permanent knowing vrcs track record

vrc is to blame according to both EA and Shadow, and VRC refuses to take responsibility, as usual

[rustic sleet]

Oh dear heavens !

[left verge]

thats why ive been talking to people about trying other platforms like ChilloutVR

[pallid cosmos]

Hey does someone wanna help a brother out in chill out

[left verge]

so far we have had ALOT of people from shadow come over and spend time

alot of them liked it and are likely to stay

[pallid cosmos]

I made a account but it's not going into vrc mode

Vr

[left verge]

hmmm, steamVR booted?

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah it's booted

[oak summit]

I'd say its temporary, but don't take my word for it.

[pallid cosmos]

But I had to launch it after I had already launched the game

[left verge]

if it registers the headset try starting CVR inside steamVR and make sure your launching into VR mode

[gloomy trench]

any update?

[left verge]

you DO have the chance to swap into VR if you start in desktop by pressing switch

[left verge]

no, just vrc covering up that its them that are the root cause

[pallid cosmos]

No I'm just gonna try to load into steamvr home

It's working now

[oak summit]

None. Blaming game out the whazoo. EpicGames very unreliable, abandon all hope ye who enter here.

[gloomy trench]

oh, typical. reckon they'll ever get round to fixing it?

[left verge]

epic and shadow both said they cant fix it since its the game dev who decides if VMs are supported, and VRC chose to revoke VM access

[left verge]

several months or years down the line if your lucky

[gloomy trench]

Wonder if VRC has any intention of fixing this? Honestly, I wouldn't even mind a silent fix as long as it gets sorted.

[oak summit]

I have no way to confirm this so take this with a pinch of salt, but it's possible.. but not 0%. EpicGames has a very unreliable support chat, everyone here has been tossed to and fro by a whole lotta shenanigans.

[oak summit]

VRC cant fix anything, they cant do anything. EAC is the only ones who can do anything about what's going on. This has been going on for almost 2 weeks, I wouldn't hold your breath.

[gloomy trench]

I won't moan if they just fix it, so I wish they'd get on with it. It used to work fine, so it's clearly possible.

[oak summit]

They managed it once before, in december, it was a quick fix. This new incident is particuarly confusing though, no one has any idea what's going on and Epic itself keeps blaming VRChat and Shadow.. welll not blame, more like redirecting an angry mob to them.

As you can imagine both shadow and vrchat have been assaulted like crazy by a buncha angry people. Tupper himself addressed the issue during the recent developer stream, you can watch that vod if you want, it's about 15 minutes in.

[gloomy trench]

reckon epic will actually bother fixing it? should i send them a ticket too?

[left verge]

its not an epic issue

[oak summit]

The amount of tickets epic has taken in the past week and a half will do nothing.

[left verge]

its VRChat not enabling VM support

Epic has said on multiple occasions they cannot do anything because its a developer end setting

[oak summit]

Thing is, why now. Why would vrchat do this now, knowing that one of their own uses shadowpc.

[swift latch]

idrc how vrchat's team feels, they're a bunch of predators that don't care about their player base. i don't trust a word they say involving this situation because they've lied so much as is + I read eac's interface and features and game devs absolutely can configure (even on the free version) to allow/disallow vms of any kind

[left verge]

the same reason they added EAC, to curve cheating and exploiters, but we all know thats not true

[oak summit]

Im wondering why fix it before, and not do it now

[cobalt siren]

im curious about this too

[gloomy trench]

there's so much conflicting info flying around, isn't there. to be honest, there's no point panicking, so i'll just sit tight and wait it out...

[swift latch]

because they can make a contract with shadow to fix it instead of doing so for free? they're genuinely going broke and are desperate for money after most of their investors backed out.

[swift latch]

because it was due to an actual eac error after an update last time, this time is clearly different.

[left verge]

before it was a Shadow PC issue since they updated backend things, but this time its not

[swift latch]

actually it was an eac update, that was confirmed by all parties last time.

[left verge]

usually shadow would change something, Epics EAC would not like it and would need to be whitelisted again by epic

[swift latch]

however shadow has changed nothing this time around and from what I understand and seen, neither has epic. this has to be due to vrchat, whether on purpose or not.

[oak summit]

My problem is this, I dont believe this is legitimate. No way in hell would they do something so insane, if anything they're hurting shadowpc and themselves, even if the damage is only so little in comparison.

[pallid cosmos]

This chillout is not bad!

I like it

[oak summit]

I have no issue with going to chillout, dont get me wrong. Im just confused of the bottomline

[swift latch]

they would though. vrchat's team is ran by some very hostile, malicious people. that's the thing. they are not good or kind in any way. anybody who was got laid off not even a couple months back. in fact, as far as I'm aware, they don't even have an active dev team anymore due to not being able to afford it.

[oak summit]

I mean sure, that's entirely possible. They're not managing this company well at all, there's many things they did that's admittedly not smart at all.

[swift latch]

everything I'm saying has been confirmed by actual ex-employees of theirs that were no longer tied down by an NDA the moment they were fired lol

they have no dev team, they work with pretty much a skeleton crew that isn't that aware of what they're doing. hence all the errors and maintenence recently. meaning, they may just be too incompetent to get to the configuration to fix this on their end in the EAC program.

[oak summit]

Hmm... That's pretty possible. You'd think such things are fixable

[swift latch]

worst part is that they're now deleting any proof or statements we have/make involving the fact that we know they can fix it in their settings.

like any mention of it in their server has been getting deleted. .-.

[swift latch]

it is possible. it's literally mentioned on EAC's site in their interface guide. that you can configure your EAC however you'd like, even with the free version and no matter what epic does on their end for the general EAC.

and if they coughed up the money, EAC would send them a version specifically configured for their game that would never change or get screwed over with any update they release on EAC's end.

[oak summit]

Such a pain, I swear to god

[swift latch]

like that's all on EAC's site. lmao

you just have to know where to look.

[lyric vector]

hello everyone! hows surviving goin?

[left verge]

alot of VRCs issues stem from if they changed things too much it breaks alot of other things

the only time they actually committed to it was with SDK2 content getting the can

[vague belfry]

This is why vrc is dying and continues to die

[swift latch]

but I don't care about the statement tupper made, he treats the player base like crap any time someone approaches him.

[vague belfry]

If it’s not the Micro-transactions is the updates

[left verge]

dying in its personality and quality, the numbers sadly continue to rise

[swift latch]

he's also a confirmed p*do but vrc just decided to sweep that under the rug. however, video evidence of it exists. lol

[left verge]

me vibing inside a world, thats not even a world (its a spawnable prop :3)

[bold pawn]

Do you have the link to you guys refugee chillout vr DC?

Gonna try it out

[left verge]

theres their discord, but i also reccomend the official discord too

the invite code is litterally chilloutvr

[bold pawn]

Yeah I'll join both

Kinda just lost hope for vrchat

[left verge]

if you want to try your hand manually making stuff, official can help you, if your unable to but still want an avatar, the little group of Shadows moving to CVR have you covered

VRC seems to have shifted from the avatars us CVR players are used to, to more realistic models, like second life had

thats out of my experience range x3

[bold pawn]

Yeah it's probably gonna be double hell for me I unfortunately use furry avatar bases so

[left verge]

CVR has a rather large furry community

the official discord will help a ton

[gloomy trench]

hang on, the negative reactions have all vanished since the last time i checked lol

[left verge]

no shot they nuked the reacts

thats funny

im gonna leave off with tiny pople in tiny world :3
and now i sleep

or more, nap

[hard steppe]

lmaoo

[left verge]

i will be online later to help more shadows, however if you do get on and there isnt too many people around, dont worry, CVR just has player fluctuations based on timezones, most people are usually working or sleeping during the quiet times

feel free to leave me pings and i will answer them once i awaken

[hexed crypt]

i wonder who that goober is lol

[mortal juniper]

I might give chillout a try tonight but first gotta figure out a avi for it

[left verge]

nerd~

[hexed crypt]

[left verge]

check out the official discord or the one made up by other shadows

[mortal juniper]

Yeah I am in the one with made up by other shadows

[dark current]

I sent you a dm asking a question

[verbal wyvern]

regardless of what does what and who does what,it doesn't matter cuz nothing is gonna really change until it's the week day anyhow. they aren't going to make a proper reply cuz they don't work weekends. wait till Monday at least

[pallid cosmos]

Chillout vr is actually pretty cool, I just wanna learn how to Livestream in it

I was checking out the camera but how would I connect obs and TikTok studio to it?

[inner portal]

We back chat?

[raw sedge]

Still no

[rare orbit]

STILLL?!?!

[pallid cosmos]

I hate to say this but I don't think it is coming back guys

Given this was done intentionally by vrchat

Altho they would rather lie and point fingers then admit that

[regal temple]

its cause tupper lies constinaly to is community which already makes him a bad person tbh

[thorny geyser]

Yea its still gone and won't be coming back

[stuck hatch]

I think he's just doing his job

Honestly, lets just let shadow cook

[inner portal]

Let pip cook, trust me

[runic crystal]

Nah leave it open just in case

[runic crystal]

Leave it open just in case

[runic crystal]

I’ve canceled my subscription gonna save up and buy my own pc

Should’ve done that long ago

[thorny geyser]

Wym?

[dusky jay]

I have no idea, I have no power outside of this Discord server 😄

[weary iron]

Idk why they don’t js make this a temporary fix and work on the permanent fix while its temporarily fixed

[mortal juniper]

They did a temp fix on Christmas break

[runic crystal]

That's what i said

[mossy locust]

Agreed bro im thinking ab just going quest fbt bc like this shadow pc no worth it if it dont let me play the one game i wanna play if it dont come back before Friday ima just cancel it bc like i have a 4050 in Florida im just in the process of moving 🥲

[runic crystal]

Damn

[humble imp]

Today is when this storm is supposedly gonna hit

[vague belfry]

People please be safe, if the storm is in your area

[coral bay]

Should I let this guy I'm talking to ship his starter pc to me 🥲

Since everyones lowk losing hope

[inner portal]

yo wsg i goot a questionn why does my ram say i have 38gb with the neo

never said that before

[dusky jay]

Committed includes virtual ram stuffs. If you check what it says in line with Memory is the correct amount. One of my PCs with 64GB says 88GB on that bit.

But also please if you have unrelated questions, open a help post.

[pallid cosmos]

Ugh

[serene bay]

Idk what ts meana honestly

[pallid cosmos]

I can take this down but apparently though Linux and doing a bit of research this is something apparently can be done to trick the EAC in i believe Linux

But if this violates anything I can remove it

[weary iron]

Carrot Hru doing

[serene bay]

Still recovering

[pallid cosmos]

Bru

Well all I'm doing to see if there's a work around but not really any luck

I thought it maybe I used GeForce now on shadow PC and ran it I could somehow use the steamvr though it but nah didn't work I would have figured, worth a try I guess

[normal nexus]

Then my PC self-destructs

😂 😂

[normal nexus]

Remember shadow PC is shared cpu

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah I'm mainly just bored and seeing alternatives to play but unfortunately there really isn't much of a different way to play other then some people saying using Linux has official support to play

But I believe someone quite some time ago said they stopped supporting Linux so I don't know

[normal nexus]

Shadow doesn't give access to stuff like that I think

[pallid cosmos]

Yeah exactly so it won't work

Literally the only way to play PC on low end PCs is though GeForce now which is stuck in desktop mode

[plush lantern]

id give ChilloutVR a try

[pallid cosmos]

I did today actually, it's nice

[honest pulsar]

Apart try to gave more news, from superior of Shadow support, we can't do anything.

So, Pip don't have this power.

[honest pulsar]

You'll need to tell to Easy Anti-Cheat and VrChat, but you already know what they thing.
Shadow by now, there's not much more they can do. They done what he could.

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, I've read the news and seen the images on TV too, about what's happening in the USA. (I'm in Italy, so right now it's still normal temperature: 6-8°C currently at 1:26 pm CET ( 13:26 ).

[thorny geyser]

Then I guess we can close this thread

If vrcs gone for us

[somber cairn]

Damn Crash out here speaking full length sentences? You know the EAC issue is that bad

[runic crystal]

damn

[weary iron]

It’s not gone for good

[somber cairn]

Not yet

[remote relic]

i wouldn't mind trying CVR till my partner gets there pc, but how the heck do you upload avis to it?
our main avi's are only done for VRC so i don't think they can be convered?

[somber cairn]

EaC said they had no idea this was happening, they responded yesterday

I'm expecting a fix Monday or Tuesday

I told you guys that VRChat was the culprit here

[thorny geyser]

And they stated they wont fix it

[somber cairn]

Because VRChat doesn't know how to

EaC is the one who is gonna fix the issue

[remote relic]

you think they are gonna ''fix'' it
don't think it will be fixed to be honest -.-

just fed up seeing my partner as a questie and we can't do anything to be fair

and they don't get there pc till next week at some time

[somber cairn]

Where is your indomitable human spirit huh

I haven't lost hope

[remote relic]

don't have it anymore seeing the whole vrc stuff
Mind you doesn't effect me at all unless my internet goes to poof then i'm doomed

mind you i am getting a meta quest pro next week 😄
Facetracking incoming 😄

[somber cairn]

Just wait a little longer, that's all we gotta do

[remote relic]

sadly the partner said they wont, as this could happen again
so we are getting them a pc next week
they already stopped there shadow sub

because its just 2 much of a risk if (it ever gets fixed)
it could happen again and again and again

[weary iron]

Longing to get a new pc one day

[remote relic]

we can't do anything online because they are a questie, while i'm pc -.-
and it's depressing

[weary iron]

Mine can’t run pcvr

[somber cairn]

#1461528261111582827 message

I'm going to trust what I see with the pinned message

I'm not going to be down in the dumps just yet, I'm gonna wait it out

[plush lantern]

"if theres anything"

[dusky jay]

FYI that's just my way of saying there will be nothing on the weekends, so no point asking.. IF yes is the key word.. There might not be anything for weeks, but if there is it will not be on a weekend.

[rancid dove]

Maybe JUST Maybe if Tupper/Vrchat wasnt so cheap and payed for a better/full version of EAC with all the money they receive from vrc+ payers and (donations) they do they can PAY for better EAC to allow shadowpc back up and not have issues its not shadows fault due to they tried to fix and communicate with vrc and ect its just vrchat has to step up and want to fix the issue and not be cheap with EAC

[remote relic]

to be fair even if it was fixed
the next EAC update could flip it
Plus epic has already said
they didn't even know anything happened and its nothing on there end
were vrc can edit changes :S

and vr is saying that they did nothing

[remote relic]

EAC has already said what they have, they can do edit changes and such with there EAC

[rancid dove]

Then tell that to Tuppers cheap ass

[plush lantern]

Tupper isn't in charge of VRC

he's just the social manager

[rancid dove]

Hes head communicator its his job to communicate to vrchat

[remote relic]

https://www.twitch.tv/vrchat/clip/PricklyEnticingLasagnaMoreCowbell-N_8YYI0uCn8ZvFjV
you can hear on this

[rancid dove]

which hes lacking

[foggy cliff]

everyone so negative I’m trying to have bit hope and all I see half time is bad stuff and people trying get people to use that chill out

[plush lantern]

from what i can see, he's telling us what he knows. VRC could know more and not be telling us

[foggy cliff]

I’m sick n tired

[plush lantern]

again, herse that funny word again, we don't know whats going on, and we likely wont for a while

[rancid dove]

Tupper doesnt care abt nun he lacks at his job thats why hope for shadowpc is out the window

[plush lantern]

im going back to my server man, ffs

[rancid dove]

[remote relic]

like its between epic / shadow
and Epic didn't know about it
So something is wrong
( we don't know full exent on shadow)
we also don't know with vrc or eac
As EAC tells people they dont know

but think about it
its not only VRC that is down
even fornight and DBD
is down for shadow users

In thory it's a EPIC issue

its nothing to do with vrchat or shadow

its Epic and there EAC

[foggy cliff]

Boring now

[rancid dove]

Look yall have a right to be mad but vrchats head communicators arent putting in effort

So hope for shadow is lacking like sorry?

[remote relic]

they have said they have talked to people
plus its like other games that are also banned
Fornite and DBD also

[rancid dove]

🤷‍♂️

[remote relic]

so it is a Epic issue.

not a vrc issue they have pulled the plug on VM'S

[foggy cliff]

Deffinalty not vrc itself

[rancid dove]

at least epic put in effort

[foggy cliff]

But people are trying blame vrc and then making people try convert to chill out