EAC issue with VR Chat (again) - READ PINNED MESSAGES :-)

[mortal juniper]

Im sad I can't buy a PC since its out of my budget at the moment earliest I can do is apirl when I do my taxes and my work profit shares

[flat zephyr]

At least that gives the market time to sort itself out. Especially with ram and storage prices right now.

[thin valley]

That’s real man

[cobalt siren]

Dudeeeee I need to save them to be able to buy a Pc

I already got a keybored and screen. Just the desktop is what I need to buy witch is expensive

[delicate viper]

I got a monitor and a mouse lol

[cobalt siren]

Yeah a mouse too, I mean I DO have a desktop but this one is like..those office dell desktop

The..COMPUTER lab desktop that can’t handle big games like vrchat or virtual desktop

[delicate viper]

Just waiting

[small relic]

I have a pc lined up to buy in February.. so 4 weeks without VRchat if it doesn’t get fixed by then

[lament night]

Has anyone tried it?

[plush lantern]

well in other news, i made a guide for ChilloutVR Avatar Creation, you can find it in our server we made for refugees

if you're interested, DM

[vapid iron]

It’s still down?

I haven’t checked this place in like 4 days now and all I see is that it’s still down

[balmy epoch]

Trust me there will be a ping once it’s up and running

[vapid iron]

Honestly might just work towards getting my pc finished so I don’t have to use shadow anymore

[verbal wyvern]

I assume no updates yet

[delicate viper]

Nope

[vapid iron]

Nope

[wet verge]

Hey chat

[elfin garnet]

Well i give up all hope

[mossy locust]

Same bro i just hooked my fbt to my quest last night im done waiting for this i quit 🫡

[serene bay]

do iget boosteroid or gfn because boosteroids latency sucks and geforce now has the 100 hr limit

[plush lantern]

gonna make this my last post here, then leaving the thread:

WE HAVE A SERVER AND WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE GAME: ChilloutVR

PLEASE: DO NOT LISTEN TO WHATEVRE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE GAME. IT IS NOT TRUE

The game is REALLY REALLY good, and is a pretty worthy alternative! Join the ChilloutVR Discord, or join our Discord for refugees.

It's been real everyone, ill be stalking this channel to help transfer updates and transcribe the mayhem for the rest of us

[serene bay]

i dont wanna play chilloutvr

[hexed lava]

I want my vrc

[plush lantern]

then you're not socializing, since i doubt they're fixing it guys

[serene bay]

i honestly just want apex and marvel rivals i only play vrc for game nights with friends for shiz n giggles

[fringe hornet]

srry not gonna ahppen i dont kw how to upload my avis to it

[plush lantern]

VRChat has made it clear enough: They dont intend on fixing this issue. If you wan't that same itch to be scratched, try ChilloutVR. Hell, even try Resonite

[plush lantern]

i legit just made an entire guide for just that

its in our server

[honest pulsar]

It depends how much you play and the games.
Nvidia have an excellent streaming technology and if you have supported and compatible devices, you can really enjoy the service.

[serene bay]

how muc his it for extra hours?

[honest pulsar]

15 hours:
€/$ 3.00 for Performance and the double for Ultimate.
But most users, create a second account, if they play a lot.

[serene bay]

yeesh

[hexed lava]

Have they tho like a full on official statement

[inner portal]

Why the　y lying to us tho

[small relic]

Can you send me Inv to server

[serene bay]

the 100 hour rule is so bs

[plush lantern]

thats what everyones been agreing on

[plush lantern]

yeah! dm me

[small relic]

I did

[hexed lava]

But its not an official statement

[plush lantern]

as it stands, your best bet right now till VRChat fixes stuff is joining ChilloutVR, even just trying it out

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, they want to be earn more, for what they have.
And obviously, they prefer to earn more, on those users that play a lot.

[serene bay]

its honestly just corruption

[honest pulsar]

It's simply called business

[hexed lava]

Nah im good

[serene bay]

lord buisness

[plush lantern]

thats your call. ill still say if anyone is interested in a really good VRChat alternative that me and some friends are helping document for avatar creation, DM me

[serene bay]

ykw screw it im buying gfn i have no other choise

such a scummy practice

[plush warren]

it is worth it, but i’ll say you don’t realize it but 100 hours really doesn’t go that fast well.. that’s if you’re not gaming 8+ hours a day lol

[serene bay]

i litterly have nothing else to do i need to recover in my bed for 2 weeks

im not even aloud to go outside

[plush warren]

so buy some extra hours, it won’t hurt ya

[serene bay]

its expensie tho

[lilac jetty]

I need my vrc back I miss streaming.

[plush warren]

it is stupud to pay for more; i did pay for gfn when it was unlimited hours.. which was great. then one update they made it 100 hours and tbh. i pay extra for the hours, it is what it is yk?

[serene bay]

its scummy buiness

i would biuy biisteroid but boosteroid is kinda mid icl

it stutters a lot and i have good wifi

[plush warren]

then gfn is your best bet

it’s good, not really awful with stutters; here and there sure. but tbh, the quality is great which is why i’ve continued to pay for it.

[rugged reef]

Do we think the problem is going to get fixed or no honestly

[lilac jetty]

I canceled my subscription until it’s fixed, I don’t really play any other game other than vrc and maybe sons of the forest.

[honest pulsar]

For users that pay before 15 january 2024 without interruption, was able to still have unlimited hours to all the 2026, if they switch to 1 year plan.

[lilac jetty]

I love shadow pc tho :/

[plush warren]

Oh wow, lol, huuuh!!! I’m not paying yearly LMAO

[narrow crow]

I need help paying my shadow pc :(

[honest pulsar]

Yeah, Nvidia had also communicated via email, and not only on the account page

[north grove]

Sucks

[serene bay]

meh

its good and all but sometimes it can be a real pain

[narrow crow]

</3

[lilac jetty]

I’ve never had any sort of problems with it unless it came to them banning vms

[plush warren]

I never got an email. I’ve been playing it for ages, hm. Either way.. I’m fine with paying the extra for some more hours. I usually buy 45 extra. 145 hours is a decent amount for me tbh. Sometimes it even rolls over to the next ones.

[lilac jetty]

That was it

[serene bay]

once my roblox corrupted and i had to reset my pc

it littelry wouldnt work any other way

[plush warren]

This isn’t the place to tell lol. Nobody is going to be paying your subscription here

[lament night]

Can someone spam @ me if it gets fixed

[lilac jetty]

Well I don’t use it for Roblox… my laptop can handle Roblox.

[north grove]

Real me too lol

[serene bay]

my ayn thor arives soon

[lilac jetty]

I’m about to try to get in later tonight but rn I’m playing Minecraft and sitting in desktop after editing my friends Avis.

[serene bay]

well i cant buy gfn because nvidia wont send me an email for some reaosn

[maiden grove]

Also for those looking into pcs aswell u can look on Newegg.com ive have friends buy their pcs from their to I’m also currently looking on it aswell as amazon

[rare orbit]

BRO STILL NO ?

[lilac jetty]

Newegg is good

[serene bay]

im thinking of getting a starforge pc when my shadow subscription ends next year

[prisma fossil]

What’s the point in switching to gfn? Are vrc/other eac games working on there? Not trying to sound mean im just truly curious

[serene bay]

i wanna play marvel rivals and apex legands

they work on gfn

[prisma fossil]

Do you know if pcvr for vrc works

[serene bay]

there is no pcvr

not to my knowlage

[prisma fossil]

Aw man

[lilac jetty]

If ur asking if shadow pc works yet no

[prisma fossil]

I wasnt, just trying to find other cloud pc options that work right now since i dont have the space for an actual pc and laptops are not optimal 🥲

[still creek]

Good afternoon yall <3

[serene bay]

doog morning

[dusky jay]

That question would be better suited for Reddit or Google or VRChat Discord.

[still creek]

How are you?

[void otter]

asking over the weekend is a little pointless. gotta wait for the week to start again

[serene bay]

im still practicing opening my right eye and ive made a bit of progress

[delicate viper]

Weekend they are closed only hope is the next week

[void otter]

should probably pin this lmfao so people stop asking for updates this weekend at least

[vivid grove]

Mods? (Honestly just pip) can i post a review of resonite on here?

[dusky jay]

I'd prefer if didn't.

But I dunno what it is 😄

If it's a PC Cloud service, no.

[inner portal]

MAN ITS STILL NOT FIXED BRUHY??

[maiden grove]

Who said this.?

[stone pewter]

Enjoy a funny video to ease the tension

[serene bay]

well i regret this

[wise acorn]

OMG EAC PLEASE FIX YOUR GAME

[vapid blaze]

Like DAMN

[lament night]

Why?

[lucid glacier]

Dude I love how vrchat supporters keep telling us to get a job and buy a pc like what

[serene bay]

100 hrs

[worthy hemlock]

Dead ass?

[lucid glacier]

Ill send a screenshot bro

[vapid blaze]

Bruh like we can get ram is going to Ai and same thing graphic cards mind you they’re very expensive

I’m to tired aghhhh my head hurts

[lucid glacier]

I couldnt say anything back because the dang timer they got on me (I have to wait another hour to respond) but I sent em a dm that people arnt privileged like him

[ivory grotto]

my shadow pc runs out today

cries

[worthy hemlock]

it's not only that ram prices are high as hell but so is rent and everything else.
😭😭😭

[oak socket]

may i dm as well?

[green saffron]

Mines runs out tmrw i feel u

[prime jungle]

right mines runs out tomorrow or the day after that

[sharp condor]

official statement from vrc btw.

[prime jungle]

💔

[lusty atlas]

We’ve seen it before

[lucid glacier]

Tupper is only the poster child what he says dosnt really matter

[sharp condor]

Tupper genuinely ticks me off

We need some new leadership bro💔

[wintry roost]

So I’m guessing no update yet?

[humble imp]

Make me leader frfr

[lucid glacier]

No fr. It comes to the fact that vrchat can in fact fix all of this but would rather point the blame lol cause why can I play dbd but not vrchat xD

[dusky jay]

Next time the possibility of anything new news wise will be Monday, if there's anything.

• Meaning any updates won't come through on weekends.

• As mentioned from the Start, Shadow is in communication with all parties involved, it's just a matter of waiting for the outcome.

[limpid depot]

All Hail Pip the Conquerer

[limpid depot]

Mind pinning this lad

[lament night]

I never fully read this

Chat its over

[lament night]

Not cant help WON'T help

[sharp condor]

From like a standpoint of being head of the community, I find it very hard to swallow that tupper would say "We WONT help you" like come on bro

[wintry roost]

Okay thank you so much at least it’s something

[vapid blaze]

Violence might be the only answer

Hmmmmm

[lucid glacier]

I just hate that they assume we are all rich or that we are lazy and dont have jobs ect ect and I hate that vrchat won't acknowledge and accept that we the people who pay vrchat plus stuff amongst other things are what gives them a paycheck

[sharp condor]

"We wont help you because we forced EAC into our systems in 2022, and we dont want anything to do with its problems"

[stone pewter]

@dusky jay just sending funny videos to ease tension

[vapid blaze]

Yeah somebody might sue vrc

[lucid glacier]

Technically we all could for them penny pinching and not using our money properly

[wise acorn]

He might be onto something guys?

[vapid blaze]

Indeed

[lucid glacier]

BRUH WHYD THEY SAY IM USING MY DISABIKOTY AS A EXUSE NOT TO WORK MAN

[vapid blaze]

I do agree with pip maybe there will be some news on Monday

[lucid glacier]

Dude im gonna crash out. I have a actual disability that causes me not to be able to work alot and this dude told me im being lazy and using it as a excuse

[dusky jay]

IF is the key word 😄

[lucid glacier]

I hate vrchat boot lickers man

[vapid blaze]

Ahhh I see

[hoary ermine]

So they're not fixing it?

[vapid blaze]

Right now it’s 50/50

[hoary ermine]

great

[zenith verge]

We don't know atm

[scarlet sinew]

50/50

[lyric vector]

wait WHO'S not fixing it

[scarlet sinew]

It's gonna take a minute lowkey

[hoary ermine]

HELL0??

[lyric vector]

EAC????

[gilded helm]

uhh

[lyric vector]

I don't like how many mutual friends we have who are you

[vapid blaze]

Some people are contacting epic about the situation

[hoary ermine]

What are you doing here

[vapid blaze]

But epic is saying that they have no information about what’s going on

[scarlet sinew]

Fail emed

[hoary ermine]

Can't send gif in here

[scarlet sinew]

Slash-Co Recruit

[lyric vector]

I see!

We should play slashco one day when shadow comes back

[somber solar]

whats slashco

[lyric vector]

It's a VRChat PC horror game

[somber solar]

ah

[lyric vector]

Based on games like Dead by Daylight

[somber solar]

oh damn

invested

[scarlet sinew]

Basically another dead by daylight

[lyric vector]

Mhm it's rlly fun I suggest it when EAC isn't being a stupid idiot

[vapid blaze]

I’m feeling mad evil rn

[lyric vector]

I've been feining for my SlashCo and Terrors of Nowhere pack I NNNNEEEDDDD IIITTTT

[wet verge]

Hey chat wanna see the drawing I'm working on

[vapid blaze]

Sure

[somber solar]

im just gonna roam around vrc on desktop for now, i got a party to attend soon bye yall

[lyric vector]

I'd love to twin

[hoary ermine]

Bro I uploaded two avatars the night before this happened 😭

[wet verge]

I'm procrastinating rendering it

[hoary ermine]

I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO WEAR THEM

[lyric vector]

Hey

hey guess what buddy, pal, buckaroo

[scarlet sinew]

Me after watching twilight

[hoary ermine]

So pretty

[lyric vector]

Art? EATEN.

[vapid blaze]

Bruh

[lyric vector]

shaddup

[burnt crow]

I uploaded an avi the night it happened 😭

[wet verge]

Thank u omg teehee

This is the first time I'm doing a full piece like this

[hoary ermine]

Now color it

[wet verge]

All this for a banner btw

[lyric vector]

Can I show some art I've done too?

[wet verge]

Ofc omg

[lyric vector]

Huzzah!!!

Idk if I should censor this or not cus the cleavage is out but it isn't nsfw or suggestive, imma spoiler anyways (sorry mods if this is evil 😨 )

[primal field]

So should I drop my shadow subscription or nah

[lyric vector]

Depends are you only using it for vrchat?

[primal field]

Nah

[lyric vector]

Then no 😭 I mean if you enjoy the other things you use it for then don't, keep using it. But if you don't rlly care about them or see no use then sure go ahead

[cinder sable]

i feel bad for the character

[lyric vector]

I personally draw, edit and retexture avatars, play roblox and some other pc games on my shadow, and my local computer can't handle allat

[lyric vector]

lolol why you say that?

[cinder sable]

only thing well u did was the hands

[lyric vector]

haha well I appreciate the constructive critisicm!

[cinder sable]

no problem at all:3

im bad at drawing so dont take my thoughts too hard lol

[icy escarp]

Is vrchat back

[lyric vector]

I definitely wouldn't call myself a pro but I'm still working on my passion, so I can hopefully do what I love in a way that I like ^_^

[lyric vector]

Not that I believe

[icy escarp]

One of my friends are on vrchat

[lucid glacier]

Honestly yall id stop trying to talk to anyone in the vrchat discord server all they will say is that its our fault for not buying a pc, its shadows fault or EAC, and all they will do is belittle us cause vrchat boot lickers are too privileged to recognize not everyone can be like them

[cinder sable]

no

[lyric vector]

The vrchat server sucks...

[lucid glacier]

No fr like being told im using my disability as a excuse was a wild take dude

[lyric vector]

HELLO? WHAT?

dyno leave me alone

[scarlet sinew]

Lowkey buying the steam frame, Im sick and tired of vrc taking 30gb of my storage

[lyric vector]

oo whats a steam frame

[sharp condor]

Really farfetched opinion here .. but I had to get it through somehow

I feel like this is the most logical way of thinking about this.

[scarlet sinew]

the steam deck, but as a vr headset.

pretty much

[rare edge]

What’s going on what was that official statement??

[lyric vector]

Are we sure this is shadows problem again? Sorry just tryna make sure cuz I thought it was just EAC and VRChat being weird

I agree with you tho

[lyric vector]

... #Invest

[sharp condor]

Each party is at fault here for entirely different reasons that can be addressed if both parties came together. Shadow is a VM, cloud gaming service that is often times looked at as spoofing software by anti-cheats, VRChat has access to changing whether or not VMs like shadow cna be allowed onto their game under the guidance of epic, Yet VRChat doesnt want to work with shadow as they're fully convinced this isnt their problem.

[plucky walrus]

It definitely is more of an eac and vrc problem because shadow reached out to both and got ignored. It took mass spamming from us in order to even get noticed

[vapid blaze]

Indeed

[rare edge]

Should we start mass reaching out to EPIC?

[lyric vector]

Yeah this is what I thought 👆

I think we've already done that

[vapid blaze]

We have been

[lament night]

Honestly the spam raid wasn't as bad this time

[stone pewter]

Guys
I had a dream that today was the day 🤞

[vapid blaze]

They say that they have no idea or information about what’s happening between shadow and EAC

[lyric vector]

I think Epic/EAC just hates us and wants us to die

[lament night]

We need to be louder

[rare edge]

We should all leave 1 star reviews on VRCHAT for the way they’ve been treating this section of its player base

[plucky walrus]

Yh we have and apparently we’re JUST NOT getting noticed by eac. So it’s gonna take a whileeee. Bc both eac and vrc are saying it’s he said she said

[delicate viper]

It’s EAC It’s been EAC to whole Dang time

[vapid blaze]

Indeed

[stone pewter]

That happened before when they first introduced EAC
It did nothing

[verbal wyvern]

they say this on their main website but shadow got fixed back in December so idk

[lyric vector]

Man these giant companies and hating taking accountability 😭

[plucky walrus]

And it’s continuing to do nothing by putting out these stupid updates that help literally no one

[delicate viper]

EAC is the main problem They did another dumb Update

[plucky walrus]

Literally like, vrc could’ve talked to eac and eac could’ve read shadow’s complaint. So we wouldn’t be here

[lyric vector]

Can't these things be play tested before being put out like come on what are we doing

[plucky walrus]

Yh but vrc should at least care since their team member is affected as well

[rigid zealot]

Because I should let someone disrespect me, YOU need to grow up.

[lyric vector]

twin that was a whole day ago

[delicate viper]

Let’s all be Real Vrc Don’t give a Damn they never gave a damn they been ducking everything

Laziness avoiding accountability and straight up greed

GREEEEEEED

[vapid blaze]

I agree

[lyric vector]

The 3 horsemen of big companies

Ignore my horrible counting skills

[plucky walrus]

That’s why we’re including them in this dumbahh situation. They’re apart of the problem bc their users are getting affected by something they could’ve spoken up abt

[vapid blaze]

U good

[gaunt zenith]

Lol ok buddy whatever you say

[plucky walrus]

Honestly, imma come back like Wednesday-Thursday. If this ts not fix, I’m just leavin dawg😭

[lyric vector]

Yall please don't continue an argument from YESTERDAY

[plucky walrus]

Take care yall🙏

[stone pewter]

Both of yall stfu
Yall are grown adults arguing over nothing
Please be quiet 😭

[gaunt zenith]

Lol well they pinged me so

[lyric vector]

I'm saying BOTH OF YALL

[gaunt zenith]

Fine fine

Ill let it go lol

[lyric vector]

tysm twinnasium 🙏

[stone pewter]

Good

[delicate viper]

Reminder they have all this money from partnership, Vrc+ and mostly Marketing

They won’t do nothing to fix anything until a month or two
(Not saying the situation we are in)

[gaunt zenith]

[lyric vector]

Speaking of I need to cancel my vrc+ subscription

[gaunt zenith]

[fringe hornet]

tbh same im not paying them shizz if they acting like this

[stone pewter]

I only have vrc+ from bar gifters

[foggy cliff]

I’m not paying it either

[sharp condor]

I've already canceled my VRC+ subscription after seeing how much of a cestpool this whole thing was.

[lyric vector]

frr vrchat already has so many crappy features and weird stuff, like I don't feel like paying for their bee ess rn

[fringe hornet]

fok vrc

[lyric vector]

THAT STUPID FREAKING POTION SYSTEM IS SOO BADDD

[sharp condor]

As much as I love playing VRC, I dont support a company or development team pushing every ounce of their issues onto another company

[delicate viper]

Just rn let shadow talk to the people On Epic/EAC and Wait it’s gonna be a good while but get there are better things To do with your lives

[rare edge]

I’m telling y’all, let’s all leave a 1 star review on VRC in steam and write about how they don’t gaf about there playerbase, company’s that make tons of money start to take action if they get bad reviews

[foggy cliff]

Maybe they just decided that there not going to let it work anymore shadow ??

[lyric vector]

sorry but you LITERALLY pay money to have a stupid limited amount of a stupid little effect that NO ONE cares about

sorry wrong msg

meant to respond to mines

[sharp condor]

I only had vrc+ for more avatar slots

[lyric vector]

I didnt mean to respond to you I was blinded by rage I'm sorry 😭

[stone pewter]

I feel like we would've at least been told that

[lyric vector]

Yeah but you know
giant company no no wanna tell it's playerbase anything cuz they don't feel like it while making thousands of dollars 🥺

[stone pewter]

🤦‍♂️

[gaunt zenith]

[sage flame]

i'm really getting frustrated with this eac problem now

[sharp condor]

"hey guys, we actually dont care about you even though thats like super obvious to yall. If theres any issues .. thats not our problem!! good luck"

[gaunt zenith]

Good vibes

[lyric vector]

Ts is making me sick

LITERALLY I have a COLD.

[foggy cliff]

I wouldn’t count on it tbh

[stone pewter]

Im closing this thread now
Ily guys
Be safe and feel free to message me if yall need anything
Buh bye for now

[lyric vector]

See yaaa 👋

[delicate viper]

We all are new person

[sharp condor]

Ive just never seen a head of community actively not care about their community PUBLICLY of all things

[foggy cliff]

Like afew months ago the shadow vr app stopped working on quest for about 2 months !

[sage flame]

its this crap with eac that has me convinced that games like vrc shouldn't even have an anticheat in the first place, but the vrcteam didn't care when they got backlash from hell when they first implemented it

[fallow umbra]

It's funny because they said they took into consideration all the back lash and continued to move forward with their decision.

[sage flame]

yea it's literally vrc being ruined by corporate greed

[echo nest]

Bro we are about to hit two week wtf am I paying for rn do they not realize how much money they are about to loss

[delicate viper]

Vrc never gives a damn

Now we gotta wait a new week and see what happens

[sage flame]

if shadow setup something to harden the vm or something we'd probably be fine

[hallow basin]

Sooooooooo...are we sure its getting fixed? I mean, both shadow and vrc said they cant do anything about it, and the ones that made the anticheat stand to lose nothing if it doesnt get fixed, since we're not their client, vrchat is

[sharp condor]

VRChat doesnt really need an anti-cheat as big as EAC, couldve made their own to detect variables that were out of proportion of normal means like crasher avis and such.

or I dont know, they couldve hired real humans to look into report cases

[hallow basin]

I mean at least...thats what i am getting from this.

[delicate viper]

Let’s be Honest Does EAC KNOWS ABOUT THIS RN WHATS GOING WITH VRC

[hallow basin]

Idk, people have only been talking about vrc and shadows responses

But they clearly dont care either way or something wouldve been done

[sage flame]

even if they did they probably dont care cause its not their own game

hence why i WISH i could harden the shadow vm myself

[hallow basin]

Exactly, thats my point. They only care if their client (vrchat) cares. And vrchat has openly and publicly said they will do nothing about it.

So vrc doesnt care, eac doesnt care, and shadow cant do anything about it...

Doubt this is getting fixed

[rare edge]

I mean let’s be honest, anti cheats won’t fix crashing Avis, that’s straight up a VRCHAT issue for allowing that shi

[sage flame]

yea so the main reason i got shadowpc still is just gonna go out the window

[hallow basin]

Ive literally been crashed by an avi 4 times since they started with eac...

[sage flame]

a vrc modder OPEN SOURCED an anticrash that worked flawlessly, but vrc decides they dont wanna go trying to license that

[hallow basin]

And so has everyone else in those instances

[delicate viper]

I got it because I wanna experience other games like tf2 and csgo

Also mod left 4 dead

[rare edge]

I hear y’all, I’m telling you let’s spam 1 star VRC in steam so they do something 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sage flame]

literally vrc could of hired the modders and solved pretty much every problem the game had

[hallow basin]

Im down

Imma do it in 1 hour when i get off work

[rare edge]

Legit if we all go right now, they’ll see, big corps HATE reviews going down the drain

[hallow basin]

Yup

[delicate viper]

How can that work I’m bad with computers

[hallow basin]

And since there are at least 161 people here, then it should at least get recognition

[lofty chasm]

Did they confirm its not coming back or r y'all inpatient.

[sage flame]

if we had the access to the QEMU stuff for our shadowpc we'd be able to just edit the qemu config and perfectly get around this

at least with enough figuring out that is

[somber cairn]

Glass Shatters

[somber cairn]

161 reactions. I promise there is way more

[hallow basin]

Essentially. I mean, eac wont fix anything unless their actual client (vrc) is dissatisfied, but vrc has openly posted that they have no intention of doing anything about it. They literally said "it may sound harsh, but its a you problem"

[rare edge]

EXACTLY!!! If we ALL leave a bad review and write about how they aren’t doing anything about this situation they’d be forced to try and do everything in their power to also contact EACH

[vivid grove]

No its a vr game alternative

[hallow basin]

True true, thank you😁

[rare edge]

EAC*

[hallow basin]

For anybody wondering what they are doing about it

[rare edge]

EXACTLY, let’s all mobilize and leave a 1 start review on STEAM!!

Push that narrative so everyone knows!!!

[inner portal]

pip help me and use ur power

[lucid glacier]

They locked the channel again but cause people wanna harrass folk for being disabled ig lol

[sharp condor]

Pip only needs a fraction of his power to reverse time

[sharp condor]

This is what happens when you wash your hands of the issue, people start going crazy

[lucid glacier]

No fr. Like there's a simple solution in which none of the devs wanna consider cause they are money hungry and wanna spend the investors money on stupid stuff

[echo steppe]

could someone give me the bad and good news what did i miss

[velvet fox]

👆

[sharp condor]

Good news:

Bad News: we're screwed.

I forget I cant use gifs here.

[echo steppe]

dam what happend im so confused lol

[sharp condor]

Basically we have to wait for however long for a fix to be implemented, VRC has recently wiped their hands entirely of this issue and have left Shadow to figure this out

[echo steppe]

oh lord

[sharp condor]

So much for the VRC head of community

[echo steppe]

vrchat allways doing stupid stuff but idk if its vrc or epic that caused it

[sharp condor]

How we all gonna be when Pip uses his powers to bring back Shadow PC

[nova dune]

Pip is love, Pip is life /hjk

[sharp condor]

If all else fails, believe in Pip's wizardry

[sharp condor]

Pip is amazing, I dont know what we did to deserve someone like him.

[rare edge]

Y’all we gotta stop complaining in this chat and take action 🤦🏻‍♂️

[sharp condor]

Here's a solution, TP epic games

[inner portal]

THEN HE SHALL

[rare edge]

Tp?

[inner portal]

teleport

[sharp condor]

toilet paper, like throwing it on their building and such

[zenith verge]

"The most strongest sorcerer in history vs the most strongest sorcerer of today"

[rare edge]

Y’all ain’t srs, leave a 1 star review, in the notes, explain this situation

Big corps HATE bad reviews on their games

[inner portal]

"yes"

[rare edge]

And will take action when enough people bad mouth their product

[sharp condor]

Pip shall return stronger than ever to eradicate the EAC issue!!

[velvet fox]

To say this once again.

From a screenshot of an email that was taken last night. EAC was NEVER made aware of this ongoing situation. VRC MORE THAN LIKELY was doing stuff behind closed doors without EAC’s knowledge. Everyone had been pointing fingers at EAC this whole time. But all fingers are pointing at VRC and the devs. Now that EAC was actually made aware of this. They’re working on a solution.

[rare edge]

Otherwise complaining in the shadow server and ain’t gunna do us any good

[sharp condor]

I knew something stinky was going on with VRC, Tupper legit makes things so obvious

[velvet fox]

This is said screenshot.

[rare edge]

Okay MORE reason to LEAVE a 1 star review on VRCs game

[sharp condor]

Now THIS is a real human handling emails, I see that little typing error

[velvet fox]

Mhm

[sharp condor]

Rare Epic Games W

[velvet fox]

Now EAC knows about the situation.

[nova dune]

Ok but like someimes i feel bad when chat goes wild with areguments and pip is just like-

[gaunt zenith]

Let's be real ain't no bodies gona rate vrc with a 5 star and review they probably use bribes

[sharp condor]

Poor pip has to handle each and every one of us, I hope this man is getting paid or at least compensated with something

[nova dune]

He deserve a jar full of cookies after all this

[sharp condor]

"They did it again, theyre arguing in the support forum"

[velvet fox]

Yea, so people were beyond livid last night

[nova dune]

"its the 50th time-"

[velvet fox]

Stormed the VRC discord server

[nova dune]

Jesus what did i miss??

[sharp condor]

"I've given them everything they needed, and they still continue to destroy.."

[rare edge]

I agree, but that’s NOT the point, we should be spam reviewing 1 stars in the steam app for VRC

[echo steppe]

im give chillout vr a try

[nova dune]

When chat says crap that is concerning

[gaunt zenith]

True

So true

[lucid glacier]

Can we just like take vrchat to court chat. Im done with this

[sharp condor]

@dusky jay

I know this ping is probably reserved for you pinning things but I want to leave this here:

We appreciate the work of you and the other moderators and how patient you guys have been with us. Without all of you we'd practically be in a endless loop of nonsense. You guys have been more of a help than what we couldve asked for from the VRC moderators.

On my behalf, Im proud to be a shadow supporter because of the hard work and dedication you guys put in to keep us well informed. You deserve everything in the world for having to handle all of us lol. God speed to you Pip, much love!!

[rare edge]

Now imagine if they had hundreds of messages with a thumbs down on steam TALKING about their lack of action on reaching out

[inner portal]

they will have to do something at some point

if not next month, i will break into their headquarter

[nova dune]

I had a mental breakdown yesterday cause i just wanted to relax and chat but idk how to work chillout vr or how to upload avatars

[lucid glacier]

Yall we seriously need to leave bad reviews on everything for vrchat cause they wanna belittle us and quite literally ragebait us

[sharp condor]

Realistically speaking here, I legit just get a bottle of wine and relax on the porch, quite peaceful

[rare edge]

Exactly!! Big corporations HATE bad reviews, and if they have an influx of the same kind of bad reviews they would be forced to take a look instead of telling us to f off

[nova dune]

Im a bit sick i dont dare drink wine rn qwq

[lucid glacier]

And again we need to straight up document everything for evidence yall

[inner portal]

yea how do i leave a review

last one i sent was positive

that was long ago

[rare edge]

Steam won’t let you send another?

[sharp condor]

I say we dont review bomb, as Epic was never really made aware of this issue from what i've seen.

[rigid coral]

if 50% of people who are having issues were to leave a review.. they’d be forced

CJAT HOW DO WE LEAVE A REVIEW

[inner portal]

since they've been informed now, i'd say it'll be on tmr or smth

[rigid coral]

i’m praying

[sharp condor]

More than likely by next week or the week after depending on how long this perm fix is gonna take

[rigid coral]

as someone who uses their pc quite often, i haven’t TOUCHED it lol

[rare edge]

Right but they (VRC) also told us that they won’t be doing anything (as harsh as that may sound) and to figure it out so

[inner portal]

they've locked the last update comments

[nova dune]

Do u know how to upload avi on chillout vr?

[rigid coral]

there’s videos, i can send

[nova dune]

Yes plz

[rare edge]

Should we all reach out to epic?

[rigid coral]

i’ll dm!

[rare edge]

Let me look

[nova dune]

Thy!

[inner portal]

we did already

edited this

[rare edge]

THIS!!!!

[sharp condor]

Do not review bomb, itll make the situation worse on our end.

[lucid glacier]

Thats what they said when I reached out to them on the 16th about what was going on

[sharp condor]

If we start review bombing they cna just say "yeah no shadowpc wont be unblocked:

give it. alittle bit more time, seeing how epic has been made aware of an ongoing issue that was fixed for others about a week ago.

[inner portal]

WAIT.. IF THEY SAY VRCHAT HAS SPECIALIZED TOOLS TO UNBLOCK US..

[split rain]

They don’t tho

[severe crypt]

[split rain]

Idk if VRCHAT even has that default option to block anything on its own without eac

[lucid glacier]

Yea and when I showed that to the mods in the vrchat server I got told off basically cause they thought I contacted vrchat support, then they said it wasnt a real person I talked to when I did lol

[inner portal]

ghost is a real person but copy pasted answer, BECAUSE I TALKED TO THEM YESTERDAY

[rare edge]

OH MY GOSH WHAT

Come on guys let’s make the GAME DEVELOPERS take action!!!

Y’all can leave a review on steam mobile

[nova dune]

Im just paranoid it will also could backfires

[lucid glacier]

Honestly with how vrchat mods have responded to us and called us entitled and stuff I dont think they would in general

[rare edge]

If theirs enough of us they HAVE to listen

[lucid glacier]

Like i get the discord mods dont have a huge say but how they treat all of us in general just shows that they dont really care. Vrchat has and always will be for pcvr folk

[rare edge]

We can’t rely on them to want to make the change when they already said they won’t. We NEED to show them that we’re unhappy and aren’t standing for this shi

Regardless if it backfires or not, we have a right to be upset

[fallow umbra]

We've banned together and shown them such before when it came to the eac update. I don't really think they are gonna change nor do anything but spout the same paragraph Tupper has been sending.

That's just my outlook on it honestly

[rare edge]

But you’re not listening, just talking about it and complaining in a server isn’t going to work as we now see, we SPAM their reviews on their game in the steam store, for big companies that make a lot of money their reviews mean EVERYTHING to them, do your part, LEAVE A BAD REVIEW with this situation that is happening.

[inner portal]

what if they say they dont care and perma ban us all

[fallow umbra]

Exactly.

I'm listening and I'm frustrated and irritated but there really isn't much we can do besides sit and play the waiting game, or cancel your subscription if this isn't something you're willing to wait on. Even if we do leave bad reviews I really don't feel like it's going to do much.

[wet verge]

Rendered (half assed)

[rare edge]

You guys can’t be scared about the what ifs, VRC has already stated that they will NOT be reaching out to EPIC. So if we don’t do anything, we’re done REGARDLESS.

Corny I know but imagine if Martin Luther king jr. didn’t step up to his oppressors because of the “what ifs” for my Americans iykyk

[verbal wyvern]

:/

[rare edge]

Look if y’all wanna help the cause, and leave a bad review, then awesome, I’m not doing this for me, I have friends affected by this BS. I have a PC. I’m tryna fight for y’all cause this shi ain’t fair

[verbal wyvern]

we're not invoking king over vrchat,man. cmon.

[inner portal]

gimme the screenshot where they said they wont reach out

[rare edge]

Scroll up in this chat. It’s up there, someone posted it in like the last 30 mins

I’ll look too

[rare edge]

Then stay VRchatless 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m just tryna help y’all out

People who are too scared to take action won’t get anything done

[verbal wyvern]

brother I'm saying it's weird to Invoke mlk over this.

[inner portal]

this?\

[inner portal]

or this mate

[verbal wyvern]

that's it.

[delicate viper]

I opened this app what did I read

[fallow umbra]

💀

[lucid glacier]

Ohemgeee I love ur art!

[rare edge]

This, they telling y’all to F off lol

[wet verge]

TYSMMM

[inner portal]

WELL CANT HE JUST UH..TALK TO EPIC

[delicate viper]

^

[latent loom]

seem that about 20 times

[twilit sun]

And this was the day ShadowPc went bankrupt

[maiden grove]

Are we arguing chat🫩

[fleet wagon]

Shadowpc went bankrupt?-

[maiden grove]

No-

[inner portal]

NAH VRCHAT GOIN BANKRUPT NGL

[lucid glacier]

Yall let's not be like the vrchat discord server and fight eachother. We are the better vrchat players lol

[maiden grove]

People just being people abt this again

[rare edge]

I hear you, I’m telling y’all though, you’ll never get anything done if you leave it up to other people who don’t even wanna help, like I said, I ain’t even affected by this, some friends are, so it doesn’t bother me what y’all do or don’t, I already did my part 🤷🏻‍♂️

[rigid coral]

pip needs to save us

[nova dune]

im in chillout vr atm, idk what to do

[fallow umbra]

I'm over it low-key, just gonna sit and wait. Shadow fixed it before and I feel like they will fix it again it's just taking longer. I should be getting a pc next month anyway if things don't work out 🤷

[verbal wyvern]

I've already sent out emails to both vrc and eac,idk what you want

[inner portal]

VRCHAT will go BANKRUPT

[lucid glacier]

Its like what they told me in the military acadamy. You gotta fight to make a change. Nothing has ever really come from being nice and waiting.

[rare edge]

He absolutely can reach out, chooses not too

[maiden grove]

People r doing stuff. When I tell u this server and this thread has been a wild Savannah bc a lot of people r wanting to riot an spam tf outta eac

[lucid glacier]

They already are. Since they have had alot of bad reviews investors have asked for money back and they won't give it back hence all the major micro transactions going on

[maiden grove]

[rare edge]

Gotta review bomb VRC

[true plank]

This is the BEST and worst news to wake up to, thank you , im happy their working on a fix

[velvet fox]

Yw

[maiden grove]

Reviews?- that won’t rlly do much probably but sure love go go it!

[lusty atlas]

Didn’t they have a update about there currency and shop system during this?

[fallow umbra]

My thoughts exactly

[lucid glacier]

Thats why we gotta pay 8 bucks for a lighter prop that makes it look like we are lighting ciggies and fireworks lmfao

[rare edge]

When I talk about taking action I’m talking about review bombing (leaving bad reviews on VRC) and people are scared to do so because of the what ifs, emails aren’t getting us anywhere

[lucid glacier]

Don't forget to go on the meta store and leave a review on there. Iv already seen a bunch of bad reviews from questies on there before all this happened. Theres also Google play store too

[rare edge]

Big companies hate bad reviews on their products, leave about a hundred bad reviews today on this situation, they’re going to wanna take action

[rare edge]

Right!!

[rare edge]

👏🏼👏🏼

[jolly granite]

Can one person post multiple reviews?

🤔

[maiden grove]

Why meta? What did meta do- they can’t control vrc?😭

[rare edge]

Then sit there and do nothing, like I said, I did my part 💀

[wet verge]

Caus meta also sucks

[lucid glacier]

Because meta has a store to get vrchat on your quest headset. As much as I hate meta its not leaving a review for them its for vrchat only

[rare edge]

Not sure but I’m going to try now , good idea

[fallow umbra]

I wasn't even responding to you yet you respond to me as if I'm arguing with you 💀

[maiden grove]

Meta sucks yet that’s who makes our vrs TO play vr games- I’m confused yall leaving bad reviews on vrchat on the meta store or just meta in general cuz it’s not metas fault lmfao

[rare edge]

You’re responding to someone responding to OUR conversation, cry about it lol

[fleet wagon]

Huh

[lusty atlas]

We’re over here struggling with shadow pc while people in the vrc server are Gooning over eachother and calling others “evil kittys”

[lucid glacier]

We know its not but its another area to leave a bad reviews on vrchat. Its like if vrchat was on Playstation or Xbox. Id go to the shop and leave a bad review for vrchat

[fallow umbra]

Whatever bruh

[maiden grove]

Ooh okay see no I thought yall meant meta IN GENERAL not the vrc in the store that’s why I was confused lmao

[lucid glacier]

Im really bad at explaining aaa im sorry lol. Yea no we hate zuck but we hate vrchat more xD

[maiden grove]

😂dw ur fine hun lmao!

[verbal wyvern]

I mean just review bomb them if you want to. your pejorative if you want to or not or whether you think it makes a difference.

[lucid glacier]

Fr tho I want yall to know vrchat is already hurting in money rn. Hence the mass amount of micro transactions they are pumping out. They arnt getting funding anymore because they let creeps in vrchat and investors dont want that on their name so they want their money back.

[rare edge]

lol, just leave a bad review ANYWHERE you can download VRC, steam, meta store ect.
VRC developers will take notice. EPIC already said that it’s up to the game developers

[maiden grove]

Im not gonnnkwave a bad review on a website for people that literally make the vrs I will for vrc In store but not on meta just me love sorry

[lucid glacier]

And especially with the mods in the server deleting our proof that it is in fact their fault and belittling all of us. They wouldn't be treating us like that if they weren't guilty chat

Its like that abusive boyfriend that records you when you finally cant take the abuse anymore and he tells everyone your crazy. Lol we are all in a abusive relationship with vrchat

[rare edge]

Leaving a bad review in the meta store won’t effect meta, the developers at VRC will be effected

[maiden grove]

[maiden grove]

[lucid glacier]

Sorry for the swearing in the review. Please dont be mad at me lol

[severe crypt]

Good god

That's definitely attention grabbing geez us

[onyx stag]

Are we fixed yet 🥺

[lucid glacier]

Mhmm thats the point. I dont sugar coat anything lol id rather grab the attention of folk with valid facts

[fleet wagon]

Ewgh.

[raw sedge]

Welp, Everyone time to spam tf out of Epic

[maiden grove]

[lucid glacier]

Me too pookie lol im sad rn too xD

[rare edge]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[rare edge]

Mhm mhm mhm

[severe crypt]

Atp imma just throw my hands up and just whatever happens happens atp. This was fun while it lasted

[rare edge]

Wait no, VRC not epic lol

[lucid glacier]

Maybe we can make epic hate vrchat cause vrchat is putting all the blame on them? Lol if only tho

[severe crypt]

So it's completely vrc fault now and not epics from what I'm understanding right? Since they don't wanna do anything on their end to try and fix the issue

[maiden grove]

Epic/eac hasn’t gotten back to me yet in my ticket I made it yesterday

[twilit sun]

Which means ima need a refund

[severe crypt]

Ight now that I got confirmation ik what I must do

[lucid glacier]

If we can bully the folk who made the sonic movie into fixing their stuff we can do it to vrchat

[jagged haven]

Wait til vrc next goes live on twitch 🤣

[lucid glacier]

We should flood it lmfao

[jagged haven]

Well give em a reason to cut it short

They go live pretty often too

[wet verge]

They don't care about the kids they care about the money they get from the kids playing on their platform

[lucid glacier]

Exactly. Like when I stated 18+ verification should be free and everyone i asked about it agreed they were like "we just laid off some workers, we dont make enough money for that, if we made it 18+ investors wouldn't give us money and people would avoid us"

Like bro where is my 3 years of vrchat plus money going to or my friends 360 gifted vrchat pluses lol where's our money going?

[delicate viper]

It’s the weekend I think they are closed

(Idk)

[lucid glacier]

If Chris handsen was still doing his thing vrchat would be a playground for him

[rare edge]

Yup EPID said that it’s on the developers

[mortal juniper]

Yup

[wet verge]

If they cared about their game they would ban any predators on the platform and actually deal with the children. Even if its making it like roblox wher you can't talk to certain age groups. If they really gaf they would have implemented more things that help the community rather then quick money makers (locking age verification behind vrc+ or making micro transactions) they could care less if predators are free roam because at the end of they day they make money from it

[wet verge]

They would listen to th player base too

[rare edge]

We RIOTING for those who are new, review bombing VRC on steam and meta store so they take notice!!

[barren yew]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-slam-slam-into-wall-speed-fast-gif-21590244

[lucid glacier]

Like I say if they dont take care about the preds then they are also preds. By law it is their duty to report anything like that and vrchat dosnt do that at all

[maiden grove]

What has this gone to bro….

[barren yew]

P3dos on VRC are two way difference

[wet verge]

Isn't it confirmed like over half their staff defend loli avatars and consume th material?? I know about the lpd was only forced to change their name because of the backlash from the community and not vrc themselves. Not to mention some of the groups I've seen....

[lucid glacier]

Yes, there are documentation on them and someone just recently made another documentation about it

[barren yew]

The jit avatars are so tuff

[wet verge]

I'm not surprised they're trash bags of human

[barren yew]

I do wonder why they banned ithem

[lucid glacier]

Like bro is it too much to ask to keep kids safe?

[barren yew]

Kids?

[wet verge]

I'm not talking about those. They're cool I'm talking about the baby Avis that are NSFW and the fact that there's a whole system made for the baby Avis that make pacifiers NSFW. VRChat hasn't don't anything to ban these only when they get mass reported.

[lucid glacier]

Yea, there are like way too many children on vrchat. I no longer go to pubs because of that xD

[barren yew]

🧍🏽‍♂️bro some of these “kids” be going right along with them my bad teens

[lucid glacier]

Oh yea no I call em kids. Even when I was like what 16 I called myself a kid cause I didnt know nothing about nothing

[barren yew]

They only ban unnecessary shii in my opinion

[jagged haven]

We wouldn't have this problem if parents got their kids anything but a quest for Christmas 😭

[barren yew]

This generation is different 😭

[lucid glacier]

Tru. Its mostly both sides fault tbh but we cant exactly stop parents from not being proper parents.

[barren yew]

This 14 boy Ik wanna crack a 25 year old on VRC 😭

[jagged haven]

We don't even wanna talk about how rec room is 🤣

[wet verge]

Like they ban normal sfw public Avis by creators because of the mesh on the avi still being there but not the little baby avi that can do foul stuff. Like they banned so many creator public avatars that the creator no longer has the file for so they get screwed over and no longer can republish the public Avis.

[barren yew]

To the point they start banning the creators

[wet verge]

I've seen a lot of could stuff spawn from rec room too they're Overly freaked out there

[lucid glacier]

Lmfao im a 98 baby man xD I look back to when I was 19 and im like dang I really didnt know anything xD. Granted I didnt really grow up with the high tech stuff. Im still learning this new fangle dangle stuff especially the abbreviated texting lmfao

[barren yew]

No VRC way worse

They don’t care about age teens nor adults

[wet verge]

Literally like these people are keeping the platform alive an you're making money off them yet you choose to ban them???

[jagged haven]

I jumped from rec room to vrc and honestly for me it was worse on rec room but vrc is alot more freakier

[barren yew]

Danggg

[rigid coral]

only good thing vrc has ever done is age verification lol

i stand by that

[wet verge]

I watched a person make a nude add on thingy for their recroom avatar and I was beyond baffled

[jagged haven]

But then you have those groups that still just ask people's age n let em in 🤣

[rigid coral]

even when age verified, it’s the worst. like what’s the point?

[barren yew]

My friend got banned the other day for no reason turns to find out sb reported only one her avatars ova beef she didn’t even know about she they yanked her acc she got it back but why yank sb that has nun to do w nun

[lucid glacier]

No fr I joined a none age gated and a 15 year old was age verifying people in a just b instance. She said her vrchat mom let her stay in there even tho it was a adult thing and when I called out the owner of the club I got banned xD

[wet verge]

Not even. My 15 yea old cousin was able to get 18+ verification. He never uses it for nefarious reasons and did it on a alt not his main

[jagged haven]

Vrc has done nothing good lately, Y'all remember the Christmas event where we had to gift a mil subs for a snow blower just for em to give us it after failing to hit the goal

[barren yew]

I’m telling yall this generation is different

[rigid coral]

bro what?? how and why

[barren yew]

Especially on VRC

[lucid glacier]

They also made that a temp item for only christmas and enough people complained and they made it a permanent thing

[wet verge]

He faked his id and stuff. It's really easy and works sadly

[jagged haven]

People are just weird like that I don't understand why people make a "vrchat family" 😅 there be 17 year old girls with 35 year old kids 😭

[rigid coral]

RIGHT?! LIKE HUH??! you should not be 16 and roleplaying that you have 6 vr kids..?

[mortal juniper]

Ive seen people under 13 on vrchat i had a 7 year old on vrchat one day in a black cat

[wet verge]

The closest I have to a very family is this one kid who stuck around me cause he also got groomed by my exes and I wa the only one of the relationship that didn't touch him. I say he's like my son but never claim to be his vr mom or anything.

[lucid glacier]

Fr what happened to these kids sitting on the electrical box and making mud pies, breaking their ankles with razer scooters and getting home when the light outside turned on

[jagged haven]

Someone asked me to join one yesterday while I was on quest I told em I'd rather plant my nuts in a bear trap

[lucid glacier]

God i sound like a boomer but come on man

[wet verge]

I met a 6 yea old. On vrc and me an my friend made a effort of scaring her off the platform.

[latent loom]

I talked with a 4 year old in vrchat just dance, i was shocked

[rigid coral]

EXAAACTLY LOL.. Kids were def introduced to stuff way too young. i remember EATING DIRT when i was these kids ages, WHY ARE THEY IN AN EBOY UNCLOTHED?

[rigid coral]

ykw, real, cuz wth?

[latent loom]

they could even speak correcttly

couldmt'

[wet verge]

She was in on of those weird femboy worlds too claiming her friend invite her and he was 18 like bro.....

[jagged haven]

Don't get me started on this phantom pain bs too 🤣

[mortal juniper]

Hopefully you reported them

[lucid glacier]

No fr. What happened to parents not letting their kids inside when they were outside and making em drink from the hose. Nothing is like it used to be and it scares me man

[latent loom]

i left them alone, its just dance ofc theres kids in there

[wet verge]

When I was a kid I was crashing my bike full speed into fences

[jagged haven]

I remember the era of cod where parents got on the mic cus the kid was getting smoked 🤣

[rigid coral]

I personally feel kids can be allowed on vr, it’s fun, but they NEED monitored, for example, i’ve allowed my nephews on my vr, i let them play games, they WERE MONITORED.

[mortal juniper]

My br says he has phantom sense 😒

[lucid glacier]

No fr. Kids these days wouldn't know what to do in a cod voice chat man

[jagged haven]

The only people who should have it are people who have genuinely lost a limb

[barren yew]

BECAUSE I HAVE phantom pain!

[lucid glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/because-i-have-phantom-pain-phantom-pain-gif-3171925089382955136

[rigid coral]

if you’re so chronically online you have phantom pain / smell / taste whatever, respectfully, hop off, touch some grass, whatever

[barren yew]

No seriously

[rigid coral]

That’s genuinely SO weird..

[maiden grove]

Literally…those people make me crack up

[lucid glacier]

Oh no chat we gotta throw tomatoes emojis at the vrchat devs to trigger their phantom allergies

[wet verge]

Phantom sense is real but it's not as dramatic as ppl make it. It's at most the same feeling you get if you brush your fingers on the hairs of ur arms. I've nerded out about this plenty. You cannot feel full touch it's like when you think you feel something crawling on you when playing a horror game it's just a illusion that people take way too serious 🙂‍↕️

[barren yew]

Everytime I watch these VRC videos of ppl trolling them im like bru are we serious

[lofty sigil]

I miss pcvr

[barren yew]

This one girl had a allergic reaction to a E tomato thrown at her 😭

[rigid coral]

Exactly, it’s a phenomenon that genuinely exists, just not to the extent people take it lol.

[lucid glacier]

"Why is everything going blur...."

[wet verge]

Also doesn't help that wearing a vr messes with your senses. Sinc it take away your eyes seeing the real world it's your brain making things up caus it's confused

[rigid coral]

it’s been proven that it DOES exist..

[lofty sigil]

Or the one where her vr kid “died” in her arms

[barren yew]

She wasn’t even on vr she was on pc!😭

[rigid coral]

STOPP LOL.. i’m dead

[wet verge]

Yeah it's just not as crazy unless you have a haptic suit

[lofty sigil]

Just like her kid

[rigid coral]

now i gotta go watch prox

[barren yew]

Please 😭

[lofty sigil]

Omg I’m on fire

[rigid coral]

OH THATS FOUL HAHAHA

[lucid glacier]

Gotta get that phantom abortion yall

[bold pawn]

Omg bmo

[jagged haven]

I wanna make a hit squad that hunts people with phantom pain 🤣

[lofty sigil]

omg why are you here

😭

[bold pawn]

Cause we both struggling lol

[lofty sigil]

Yes twin WE

[bold pawn]

I just follow the thread for updates

[wet verge]

I had a haptic suit that would hurt and people thought I had phantom pain like no man this suit just jabbed my rib gimme a sec

[lofty sigil]

Wasted 40 bucks

[barren yew]

“Your poking in my eye “

[bold pawn]

I'm saying

[rigid coral]

also me too, that’s all you’ll hear from me constantly

[lofty sigil]

I be chatting once in a while

[lucid glacier]

I could totes make a group xD we can all meet up and beat up phantom pain folk

[rigid coral]

“i miss pc..”

over and over

[rigid coral]

yes. please and ty.

[lofty sigil]

Cause of my financial situation this was my best option

[warped pendant]

My avatars look like buns on quest i miss pcvr ;-;

[lofty sigil]

I was learning avi making and what not aswell

[barren yew]

Yesss

[jagged haven]

We Are "The Phantom Pain Force" 🤣

[wet verge]

All my custom Avis r pcvr so I'm pressed about this but it's not the biggest deal

[lucid glacier]

Bet pookies! Ask and yall shall receive! Ima make the group right now

[bold pawn]

I was just about to start streaming on tiktok 😭😭

[barren yew]

Sb get a hold of my goat please (proximity chat)

[lofty sigil]

bro that was still crazy I randomly found you that one night

[bold pawn]

[barren yew]

Omg don’t get me started the phantom pregnancy

[jagged haven]

When and if vrc fixes we all gotta rally up

[wet verge]

Phantom pregnancy outsid of VRChat: valid. An actual medical condition

Phantom pregnancy insid of VRChat?: attention seeking

[barren yew]

Make group the EAC survivors

[rigid coral]

yes.

[jagged haven]

Nah the Shadow Dwellers

[barren yew]

Phantom labor

[barren yew]

Shadow garden

[wet verge]

Idk much about the medical phantom pregnancy but idk if that's a thing. All I know is actual phantom pregnancy is really sad

[jagged haven]

We lurk in the shadows to hunt the shadows

[barren yew]

YK BALL😌

[lucid glacier]

Here ya go pookies!

[barren yew]

LMAFOOO

[lucid glacier]

Ill like find a funny picture for the banner eventually but feel free to join lmfao

[barren yew]

😒dyno why you always hating on me

[wet verge]

Missed an opportunity to called forces against phantom pain (f.a.p.p)

[jagged haven]

Bet!

[dusk prism]

Nahhhhh

[lofty sigil]

What am I reading

[rigid coral]

crazy

[lucid glacier]

WAIT IMA SEE IF I CAN CHANGE THE THINGY. ILL LITERALLY REMAKE THE GROUP IF I CANT

[barren yew]

They gon call one of us proximity chat

[wet verge]

Get accused of being him like bro I'm a chick wdym

[barren yew]

Don’t matter 😭they still gon say it

[jagged haven]

Everyone gonna be getting paranoid if he's around 😭

[barren yew]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-kira-anime-light-laugh-gif-8490999829095995045

What if I told you I’m proximity chat

[lucid glacier]

Ask and you shall recieve

[wet verge]

Let's gooo

[jagged haven]

Yeeeaaaa!

[lucid glacier]

Ill send yall the group link in dms if u want. I think i made it so the lobby can be open by anyone too

[jagged haven]

Banner?

[hollow olive]

Any updates yet?

[wet verge]

From sketch to render I'm very proud but I also hate it

[lucid glacier]

Got u

[jagged haven]

This has to be the most active shadow has been in years 🤣

[worthy hemlock]

At this point I think I’m just gonna get an actual pc cause I can’t keep relying on stuff not to break lol

[jagged haven]

I'm 3 parts from getting mine built

Sadly one part is the ram sticks 😭

[worthy hemlock]

Yikes

[lucid glacier]

I put it as the banner it just looks goofy asf. Lemme know if yall want the link to the group lol

[jagged haven]

For sure send it

[lucid glacier]

Should I make a group for shadow pc users too xD I got vrchat plus for a wee bit more time so I can make as many groups as I want lol

[jagged haven]

Go for it ima join

[hoary ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-cartoon-eating-cartoon-man-running-gif-24721662

[jagged haven]

And if yall want add me for when we all return my vrc is MR RYMI

[wet verge]

Giggling I can tell what the gif is

[lucid glacier]

Mine is witterly ~SkyeRaven~ x3

Im so glad that shadow pc users are like the only super cool vrchat players out there frfr

[hoary ermine]

it's the fat guy from the haunted house

[nova dune]

im in chillout vr if yall wanna hang

[latent loom]

added

[hoary ermine]

Ohh I read that as can't my b

[upper kettle]

Got myself a gaming pc today with nvidia gtx 950m will I be able to play vr chat or need to get new drivers ? Will it work basically?

As sick of this shadow pc crap

[runic crystal]

Lucky

[jagged haven]

Added ya

[jagged haven]

Bet

[latent loom]

mine is "midasoflife

[upper kettle]

This is the laptop

I wanna play vr chat on pcvr agsin if this works im canceling my shadow subscription

[vernal geode]

If it doesn’t hurt you or other people just ignore it or live with it, all people is different

[lucid glacier]

I mean tbh it do be hurting folk who actually go through phantom pregnancies and stuff. Its like some people in vrchat who self diagnose and pretend to have DID. Its hurtful to those who actually experience it

[cinder sable]

vrchat fun :)

[normal nexus]

stop trolling people... its not funny no more

[cinder sable]

wdym

im just on geforce

im on geforce on my shadow

[normal nexus]

Wtf?????

[honest pulsar]

Easy Anti Cheat

[normal nexus]

when did they add vrchat to geforce

[delicate viper]

So a vm on a vm

[normal nexus]

lmao thats nuts

its actually there hes not lying

[vernal geode]

Yes, people can have that like when my ex was pregnant with our childe im talking about irl and I had Couvade Syndrome. But it’s not your job to fix them if the feel that the aren’t anything wrong with it then it’s nothing wrong in the end it’s there body and the can do what ever the want with their body so lone it doesn’t hurt other people.

So many people about people sitting a front the mirrors for hours nothing wrong with that at all, many people only complain about it because the think it’s weird and the think because I think it’s weird then it most be something wrong with that person,

[warped pendant]

Wait it runs vrc!?

[warped pendant]

Geforce i mean

[cunning cosmos]

Only in desktop mode. It does not support pcvr

[warped pendant]

Dang ok

[latent loom]

does it work with pcvr

ok

[normal nexus]

wait so they quick to add/fix it on geforce but not shadow?

[cunning cosmos]

I don't think it was ever broken on GeForce

[cinder sable]

i can stream it

[calm gust]

Vrc is never coming back to shadow. Just stop getting y'all's hopes up gng

[wheat verge]

[normal nexus]

naw dont say dat

[warped pendant]

[honest pulsar]

Yes, confirm it's true. It's available because the devs allowed Nvidia

[normal nexus]

if people didnt go nuts for vrc being gone and overwhelm staff im pretty surethey would have done it faster

[calm gust]

It's true I'm sorry to say but it will never come back. You see vrc not trying to do anything neither is eac only shadow is. Sorry sweetheart but just stop getting your hopes up for something that won't come back.

[honest pulsar]

Yes, Nvidia have VRChat

[warped pendant]

But no pcvr sadly

[cinder sable]

LMAO

[maiden grove]

Debby downers in here

[honest pulsar]

Yes, because Nvidia GeforceNow it's a closed system and it's Opt-in system ( devs decision to add the game ).

[mortal juniper]

So cant go in pcvr that's sucks

[delicate viper]

Mhm

[mortal juniper]

I miss pcvr

[vernal geode]

We can use pcvr but not vrchat because easy anti cheat has blocked the system shadow pc uses for virtual pc, and it’s probably using kernel level to identify the system

[wise acorn]

Same man

[vernal geode]

So it doesn’t have anything to do with nvidia or intel or amd

[calm gust]

Like I said it's not coming back

[velvet fox]

👆

[dawn swift]

Same🥺

[runic crystal]

Me we are saved(eventually)

[velvet fox]

Mhm

[noble skiff]

Thank you so much for this, the fear I have when reading some of these comments 😂 you give me hope

[delicate viper]

Wait is there a new RE

[vernal geode]

No it’s not comming back, maybe in a couple of years when dram is so expensive so more and more people starting to get cloud pc gaming and easy anti cheat is forced to change their system because their system has has made so many problem

[lucid glacier]

We didn't at first tho and they didn't do anything

[normal chasm]

there hasnt been a solid no or yes. stop spreading this lol

[velvet fox]

Yw

[velvet fox]

Read my message 😬

[hallow basin]

😊👍

[vernal geode]

If the say no it’s not going to work any more then the going to lose customers, if the keep quiet the hope the not going to lose customer’s, in the end it’s a company that runs on more customers more money

[urban zinc]

this contradicts so many things, keeping it so real with what ya said

[dark fox]

Im just giving up at this point

[thorny geyser]

Wait vrc is going bankrupt?

[delicate viper]

No

[velvet fox]

Read my recent message

[normal chasm]

i dont see how that = never coming back? this could take weeks maybe even months for companies to make a deal. im sure it wont be months tho lol

[delicate viper]

I reached 3k on TikTok today 😀

[noble skiff]

Congrats

[hard cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-congratulations-leonardo-dicaprio-celebrate-celebration-gif-3447802063960970082

[rare edge]

EAC is working on a solution?? Show proof

[urban zinc]

within true saying it will not take years and gradually not months, a fix will be implemented or some sort of issue solve

[calm gust]

Proof

[velvet fox]

This is from Epic Games Support

[vernal geode]

Date when that pic is taken?

[vapid blaze]

yesterday

[velvet fox]

The screenshot was sent by someone else

Last night

[delicate viper]

Earlier today I was here before the mob stuff went out

[velvet fox]

Round like..5 PMish

[rare edge]

This doesn’t say they’re working on a solution, this says they’re waiting for shadow or VRC to do something about it on there end

[velvet fox]

Well yes, but this whole time people have been pointing fingers at EAC. When the real culprit is VRC and the devs.

[split rain]

I’m lowkey cooking with my house fr

[velvet fox]

This is just from what ik

[calm gust]

U kinda spread false info saying that they were working on it when they hadn't.

[normal nexus]

yo vrchat looking different😂

[split rain]

Fr

[velvet fox]

I’m not saying I have a definitive answer on if they’re working on it or not

[rare edge]

100% agree with you, which is why I said we need to all leave a bad review on VRC, on steam and the meta store, big companies don’t care to take action inked their reviews take a hit, VRC devs already said they will not do anything about this anymore moving forward

[velvet fox]

Again, this is from my understanding.

[normal nexus]

thats not gonna do anything look at overwatch 2

[rare edge]

What about ow2

[normal nexus]

when it 1st got to steam people review bombed the soul outta it

[rare edge]

So let’s just sit here and complain/ do nothing right?

[velvet fox]

I already left a bad review

[calm gust]

I just don't think it's gonna get fixed

Because of vrc

[vernal geode]

Maybe time all of us make a bad review on steam on vrchat?

[velvet fox]

Agreed

[normal nexus]

the best thing we can do it make more aware to them in a peaceful manner and wait.

[rare edge]

YES!!! Do this and they will be FORCED to do something!!!

[calm gust]

When have being peaceful done good for us it's obvious they don't care

[rare edge]

We’ve tried that, VRC SAYS THEY WILL DO NOTHING ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT

[normal nexus]

tbh thats something already stated in their tos

[rare edge]

Epic said they’re waiting on the game devs, THE FAULT IS ON VRC

[calm gust]

We need to do something that will gain attention

[rare edge]

Exactly!!!

[calm gust]

Vrc will never fix it if we don't force it

If we don't say bye to vrc

[velvet fox]

I 100% agree

[normal nexus]

crazy people said that when they 1st were adding EAC

[vernal geode]

VR News Streamers on YouTube

[calm gust]

Or possibly even more eac games

[velvet fox]

They won’t fix it unless we force it upon them

[rare edge]

Big companies HATE bad reviews, VRCHAT already said they won’t do anything to fix it, now if we ban together and force the issue they HAVE to listen

[calm gust]

The difference is we ain't crazy. Plus this is impacting their game crazy

[velvet fox]

Exactly

[normal nexus]

the amount of shadowpc users arent going to affect them as much guaranteed

[velvet fox]

If they see bad reviews, they won’t have a choice but to address the issue

[calm gust]

We just need to force the change not saying raiding their vrc streams I mean posting reviews making support tickets etc

[vernal geode]

Shadow users is probably less then 0,001% I guess

[rare edge]

Guaranteed?? Nothings guaranteed until we TRY

[livid basin]

What game is this? It's so cuteee

[normal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-de-grasse-tyson-we-got-a-bad-ass-oh-well-oh-man-gif-4393076

[split rain]

Heartopia

[calm gust]

Everyone who is getting affected are half of shadow pc and some of actual pc and users which I bet u forgot about

[rare edge]

Says WHO?! Where are y’all getting these assumptions from?

[calm gust]

Then ur proving my point of vrc will never come back

[inner portal]

when are we getting back guys

[rare edge]

If we ALL do something together they have to take notice

[calm gust]

90/5 chance we ain't getting it back

[inner portal]

shadow users are about 30-40% of all vrchat

[calm gust]

But it's a chance that may chat depending on the greed of vrc

[inner portal]

mate stop spreading fake news please

[calm gust]

I'm not just look at the proof

[inner portal]

saying it wont come back is just bollacks

[calm gust]

We have no actual way of saying it'll come back

There's no proof that vrc is trying to fix this

[inner portal]

well neither we have any info that it WONT come back

so please don't spread fake news

[calm gust]

Touche

[dusky jay]

No one knows either way.. So saying it will come back is just as bad as saying it won't .. No one knows.

[calm gust]

Exactly my point

[inner portal]

yeee

[pallid cosmos]

The only thing I saw was a stream of them saying they are but who knows, I'm sorry but I'm slowly losing any hope I'll stay hopeful but I'm not getting my hopes up atp

[hard cloak]

This basically what all 3 dev teams are doing from what im imagining

[icy sundial]

[lofty chasm]

No one needs negativity

Until we can get an OFFICIAL message ion wanna hear nothin

[rare edge]

Soooooo EAC said it was up too the devs at VRC, VRC said it’s up to shadow and EAC and that “as harsh as it sounds” they won’t be doing anything on their end anymore.

[delicate viper]

The Cycle

[rare edge]

So NOW we need to get the attention of the VRC developers, leave a bad review on their game in steam with this situation as the note, big companies need their public image to stay good, and won’t take action until we force their hand

[wet verge]

Rendering saves my art

[lucid glacier]

I made a review already but I also talked about the very touchy topics of vrchat too

[rare edge]

This is how we make them take notice guys!!

[gaunt zenith]

If it turns out vrc does not work on shadow because of this bull im telling you now im not just going to be angry im going to bring hell with me

Im going to be livid

BURN DOWN VRC

[rare edge]

At this point, you seen it yourself, VRC WONT DO A DAM THING. And EAC is telling us it’s on the devs, meaning nothing will happen until VRC takes action.
Dammed if we do, dammed if we don’t

[gaunt zenith]

Like I said they deserve to get sued by their player community

They don't deserve us as players because they just treat us like numbers

Fkn money hoarders

[tribal nacelle]

There’s also that twitch clip tho and one of the devs uses shadow pc

[gloomy trench]

hey, last time i checked, shadow said "not my problem", vrchat said "not my problem", and epic games said "not my problem" either. anyone actually made any progress since then or are we still just playing hot potato?

[tribal nacelle]

On a Mac

[gaunt zenith]

Someone needs to make a YouTube video abt this

[gaunt zenith]

Hotpotato

[gloomy trench]

😭

[hard cloak]

2pishh

He probably will

[broken kayak]

I have hopium
I believe in callista’s claim

[gaunt zenith]

Yup

[rare edge]

No, create a bad review on steam for VRC

[lament night]

Anyone checked it?

[glass kiln]

yall just gettin childish now

[lucid glacier]

Its not childish but oki

We have every right as consumers to leave a bad review when a company dosnt meet standards

[gaunt zenith]

Then stop reading it if you think its "childish"

[gloomy trench]

My patience is finally wearing thin. I haven't written it yet, but if nothing changes soon, I'm going for it, buddy.

[lucid glacier]

If you have nothing nice to say keep yo mouth shut ya know. Basic rules of the interwebs

[rare edge]

Like I said, I have a PC, this doesn’t effect me AT ALL, I’m doing this to help YALL, and right now if you wanna sit there and twittle your fingers and do nothing and hope for a change, then go ahead, but change doesn’t happen unless y’all go get it

[steel swallow]

Do you guys think they will fix this problem?

[lucid glacier]

Id say 50/50

[twilit sun]

no.

[pallid cosmos]

Not until backlash gets bad enough

I fully believe vrc is just lying

[rare edge]

Yup yup!

[lucid glacier]

I mean vrchat has a history of lying dont they lol

[echo nest]

They got till my next payment then I’ll just go find a a different one cause this has wasted my time and money plane and simple

[pallid cosmos]

Been a headache for us all

[mental crypt]

Im free from my shadow pc chains now

[echo nest]

I’ve been using this four 3 years now wasn’t an issue till recently

[lucid glacier]

Its because vrchat loves to only cater to pcvr folk that dont have quest standalone and shadow

[twilit sun]

Where is your sword?

[echo nest]

I choice to stay with em cause it was reliable but I’ll just go and get a pc at this rate

[rare edge]

Your wire management is so much better than mine lol

[lucid glacier]

They were quite literally belittling shadow pc folk and quest folk when we all chatted about it and said that we are all basically being too entitled and should get a job and not use our disabilities as a excuse

[mental crypt]

I got a dagger bro

[twilit sun]

It was A vinland saga ref

[pallid cosmos]

If everyone had the money for it they would, I seriously think this deserves a lawsuit

[mental crypt]

Ehh I just kinda threw em together lol

[echo nest]

I work full time that’s wild I could of bought pcs multiple time but ok