#EAC issue with VR Chat (again) - READ PINNED MESSAGES :-)
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agreed I've seen a lot of rude responses to questions, even tho it's a bit understandable since the pins and the title of the thread is right there
At the end of the day theres no need to be hostile to eachother, we're all goin through the same crap so lets not take it out on eachother
Okay respectfully to anyone arguing just shut up block eachother there
Ok if anyone has any ideas for a background pic or a custom one for a vrc group I can make the group,or if someone has made one already then I dont need to
I was not trynna be rude if I did it’s just the same thing over after someone answered it’s like 1 scroll up
And if so what should the group name be???
As I said I understand that, and I didn't see ur message so idk if you were being rude or not actually but I'm just saying I've been seeing a lot of verbal violence here
I feel like the people from the VRChat server thread are just migrating to this chat and its getting worse 😨
Fr
Ahh
I'm finna go crazy
Rude and passive aggressive are diff, but one could say you being passive aggressive is rude
So I'm guessing it's not happening today at least
I say we gonna make it to 50k chats in here before its fixed
Just drop it🤷🏻♀️
Bettttyyy new goal
A lot of people also just can't read tone over messages so
I'm convinced some of these people in this chat are ai.
This i suffer from this
Same I’m ai
One of my hobbies is taking pictures in vr and basically making scrap books out of them at worlds I think are cool but I can't do it on quest cause it just makes me sad bro
I'm so bored and it's my day offf
I just miss movie nights with my bf 
You can answer me but I can’t respond 🤣😭
Stop being passive aggressive is my point okay bye
when did you come back LMAO I thought you got booted
I ain't do nun wrong..
lol
Is it back up yet
I guess removal isn't perm.. I am sure you've learnt not to troll again though 🙂
noooooooo
Nah not yet
Word ty
No but also check pins
CHECK PINS PLS yall
I’m getting real tired of not having a timeframe
Same lol we all are😭
Mhm its just like being stuck in a dark room
Ok so
Ik this is a big ask bit since apparently there is no video tutorials that actually work <so says some of yall + my friends>
Would somone mind dming me like the basic steps for unity- ik it's a dumb ask but it's this or I go on reddit
Damn no more gifs but yeah
I’m not good for explaining only showing sorry bud
Good luckkkk it took me like 2 months to be able to get it down to a key
Wait
.. They said explaining?
I’m so tired
Blender took me almost a year
Hm?.
Yeah that jobs not for me, i can show and explain in call but texting how to use unity-
Ion even wanna be good I just have nothing to do so why not
ONG
We cannot explain in text how to use unity
is ti just uploading avatars or making avatars?
Uploading
No.
oh uploading is easy
Ion have the patience to make em
Just uploading -?...it can be easy or hard depending on the sdk and the materials
🙁
So it's not just a drag n drop thing?
So is it finally getting fixed today?
Hell no, it's more.
If you need help I can explain it through text to the best of my abilities for ya
It’s too easy
It's really easy to upload as long as u have everything tho
Imma scare you
|| Poyomi ||
You’d think it’s hard until it’s not
Yep!
Hopefully when I wake up it’ll be fixed. AMEN
GOODNIGHT GUYS !!!
Yes please
If you could a step by step just basic would be amazing
You don't have to be detailed the point is to take up my time so it's perfectly OK if I get confused
We dont know
I gotcha buddy. I'll dm u momentarily
Yayy
Get dynoed
Still down, huh? A damn shame
fr
Yep
EAC devs are really slacking rn
Half way through the week and its still down
It’s getting fixed today
Deleted message - I made the group but it dosnt have a pic to it except the default stuff and couldn't change the thing to make it say shadowpcusers or anything on the like it just says suffer. https://vrc.group/SUFFER.8657
They also need poyomi toon and vrc furry don't forget dat
Really now? Is that confirmed?
Pip your a troll!
I'm aware thank you! I upload alot
Joined!
That’s stealing my original idea, I had a Support Group already :(
Yea is that confirmed?
Oh yes yes you do
Like we need confirmation homie
Yeah if eac devs wanna remove some features for vms.
Just makin sure incase you forgot 
I hope
I pray for you
Uh huh 👍
I'm just the messenger 😄 As dyno yeeted it.
Don't shoot the messenger
U have? I mentioned it a few days ago???
Then y say it’s getting fixed today if u don’t know
Dyno out here being the feds.
I don’t know I’m sorry
I’m just so tired of this stupid ass timeframe
…why say that then…
I believe star mentioned it awhile ago but it got drowned out by everyone
Like we need to like orbital strike the eac HQ
Yeah! I can send you the invite in DMs
Like fr helldive into that joint and just spam stratagems
We have a server as well
Me 2 plz
No worries it’s okay ^^
Since when you have a vrc account
The server is small rn but I'm open to more channels and ideas as well
It did :(
Invite me.
Ehhhh....
Pip's a fellow Narcissism Simulator player?
I don't ..
he’s reposting it
Oh
Ah gotcha I got back from making dinner and saw that my bad
So we all hanging in a group once it's back is what I'm gathering-,
If anyone wants invited to the server, please dm me or @severe crypt
I can dm u a basic list
Yes please
il just get rid of mine
The group link star made is in the server
6:17pm est test
results:negative
Damn
Sigh sigh
was hoping by the end of the day it'd be good,maybe Thursday
It's already 5:25pm :[
EAC survivor
Or hopefully later tonight
Hopefully Friday
I wish we had inside information on what’s going on
It’s only 3:26pm PST so who knows 🤷🏼♀️
I just hope it's up by the time I have a day off I work 40+ hours and only get one or two days off a week
U in cali? Or sum
Nah just share the same timezone as it
It is yes, just gotta give me like 30 minutes cuz I’m still at work
6:27 EST so maybe it could be some point tonight but I kinda doubt it
Doubt it but I will hope still
Id like a invite, I dont see a link
Got u
I'll dm u
Wait what group are we talking about
Me and star made a server and vrc group to hopefully keep this one just updates and important stuff
Not just flooding it with stuff off topic ect
Mine was just simple for people who are also have the same issue with EAC nothing else
I could be reading what u said wrong ,im kinda slow on understanding that fully
It's all good lemme rephrase it.
Me and star only made the server with the intent to have people chat and connect over there that are going through this as well. Plus it'll free up the chat and important info from being flooded with random chatting
K
And the thing about the group was just star saying they had already made one awhile ago once it was mentioned someone was making another one
shii does your homie need another homie? mine jus ran out
I just want the vrc group one, I mentioned it and someone mentioned being drunk and playing vrc standalone i belive and having a stupid time
From what I remember that one person saying I belive?
If you want then I can send u the link to stars? That can also happen as well but I'm aware of what you're talking about. Don't remember who said it tho
Saying they'd love to join that if I made it
So we still don’t have it
No updates yet
just tested still broken
Im like this close to just tryna bypass EAC
Wouldn't recommend -
That's not a good idea .
Ik its not the best Idea
Aira pfp and im using okarun
It said invalid invite but that for the discord not the vrc group
Thats a terrible idea
I can just dm u the vrc group if you wish?
Yea
You could get your account perma banned
thats why Id use an alt
And if they ip ban u?
I buy a diff shadow
Or hardware ban?
Haiii
I buy something else
Damn your really willing to risk it all just to play vrchat? Thats crazy
I mean you do you man
when I get to a point when I have too many people added I just make a new acc
Real
Nah Ill just use offline mode to test avies, I literally just wanna test avies
Im tweaking a shader and Id rather see how it plays in gameplay
Damn, we are still waiting on this?
Yes
Yep
Ha, if this never gets fixed, then my suggestion gonna start lookin like a better option again huh?😶
six days basically since this all started
I’m so close to robbing somebody for a gaming computer tbh 😭
Facts
"Nothing personal, I just REALLY need this"
Once again chat, i know a site where you can rent an actual pc for the same price as shadows, can cancel and send it back at any time, and its rent to own so after a certain point, its all yours😊
Still not up btw
Name?
👀
Drop
this sounds like its too good to be true
Fr like I’m just borrowing it..forever
ok nap time guys i hope its fixed by this evening
Drop
Only one thing, hellhound started some crap because apparently some people said that the parts in it werent as good as promised, but as long as its still good enough for vr then id say its still better than shadow🫤
yea
you can also just finance them
interest is pretty bad though
So anybody who wants to know the link, pls dm me so i dont get in trouble. Plenty of people have already, and multiple have confirmed in this chat that its not a scam
Do you use it?
I really wish they would fix this
Knowing Epic, they like to make things as hard as possible but somehow it still gets fixed.
Have a little faith
I have had but at this point..
Lowkey losing hope
still no work
I missed so many events that I’m supposed to be hosting
its been 6 days, and its alr stated that they are working on a long term fix rather than a quick short one
i already lost it to the point i am orders a new cpu mobo and power suply
i think thats just improvement homie
Oh yeah, i forgot to say, the website says first month free so, nothing to lose anyway.
Oh my
Nxzt is a scam
They have a lawsuit against them for it
Oh we talkin Nzxt
They send you a pc with downgraded parts
Oh lord
weren't they just reprocessing old returns
Also you don't get to keep it
Once you don't wanna pay for it anymore you send ot back
Yeah yeah moth, i already explained to everyone. The lawsuit never says they didnt provide the pc, or that they stole money, its just a bunch of tech nerds mad that the motherboard wasnt up to their standard. But as long as it runs vr, its still better than shadow atm soooo.
tbf thats still fraud
Key word atm.
Its the "pay over time" option🙄 and its the same price as the subscription
So hey like they send you pcs with downgraded parts when your paying for better parts
So like maybe don't promote them?
I knew it was too good to be true lmao
Again, even if they originally said that the parts are the ones that they send you, its still better than shadow🤨 so its still a win
yeah but shadow aint lyin to us
Theres literally nothing that anyone here would lose
if im paying upwards to 79-100 bucks for a monthly base Id expect some pretty good parts
what if i just keep the pc lmao
Technically I think you could be sued at that point
Bad things
So far as we know. I mean, id love to see these "talks"
I'd assume they would come after you for theft
Well that's illegal
Eh, we be getting updates on both sides and they've been posted in here
Is it getting fixed?
I waits
pinned messages
Anyway, once again, ive explained the FULL situation to people, and they have said in the chat that they agree its still worth it. Im not scamming anyone here so you and hellhound can chill with the "actually guys🤓☝️"
Wouldnt you agree that you'd expect more than above par parts if you're paying a monthly subscription for something you cant even own in the long run?
Is there an EAC server?
nope
I havent touched vrchat since this started
And that is entirely peoples choice whether they wanna go with the pc thats slightly worse quality than promised, or one that doesnt work entirely😊 they know the details now, and can make their own big girl and big boy decisions.
I have a pc, but I constantly crash on it, and I had shadow before I got the pc
Sill nada?
Nope
There is the one that VRC uses
I pray that it gets fixed by Friday because thats my bday
Well, any girls in here wanna be friends when we get vrc back up??
I was in it before I realized how dead it was
heyyy mine's a day after!
Hell yeahhh!!
Oh sigh
And btw, you can own it, it literally says "pay over time" and "pay to own" on the site🙄 yall are listening to someone who didnt even bother to check more of the site than JUST the one part of it they thought would prove their point.
"These PCs are not availiable for eventual ownership-Theres no rent-to-own or buyout option at the end of your subscription" As this also seemed to come from the official link as well.
to be completely fair, shadow still has some old information up on their site, as well
And the first month of subscription says its free anyway, so even if its the subscription instead of rent to own, there is literally nothing to lose
It's still fishy as well for the problem of parts being older than what you're paying for. If you're going to advertise something, at least inform those at the very first message that parts are downgraded or refurbished.
You'd be better off getting a new prebuilt than paying this monthly subscription
Besides, you can cancel at anytime and send it back, so like, WORSE case scenario, you somehow still end up paying for one month, even though its free, at the same price as shadow, and then using their pc for a month🤨
still nothing working?
Nope
No
had to ask cause of a rumor about vrc's eac blocking a specific hypervisor extension
Yea fair point but atleast shadows parts are honest
Are they? Cause i was promise a pc that would work and they have failed me almost every month🙄
But then again im saving nzxt as a last resort if worst comes to worst
question is what are you using shadow for to "fail you"
im only paying the 30 bucks a month subscription and its worked flawlessly
Vr is the only thing i need it for. As far as im concerned, cutting out my favorite games is worse than "parts not being as good" so long as flex can still run my favorite games and shadow cant
This is a risk you take when you buy a virtual machine.
Ive had a few mishaps but over all shadows worked for me like 8 outta 10
as?
Well then id rather the risk i take when i buy a physical machine, thank you
Winning and im playin rogue
Then get a physical machine thats not from a company with a lawsuit, it'll go a long way for you. Framing this as shadow failing you is a childish standpoint; It's triple A companies not caring about their consumers and doing whatever they want which indirectly cuts us off.
You can get cheaper costs leasing a pc from BestBuy
where im gonna get my prebuilt fr
dude Best Buy is reliable and the only people who work there are pc nerds looking out for discounts
It's about to snow tonight like bad
It's supposed to almost block off all the roads apparently
So I was hoping to have fun in vr while I'm stuck inside
Sigh
Plus I have 4 new avis so I was hoping to teat em in vrc
Yall. I just about give up
Any updates gang?
Nope
yup
I dont really care what the reasons are tbh. I just wanna play my games sooo, not childish. The only thing thats childish is thinking that adults cant make a decision even though they have all of the details, and that you know whats best.
Are they still working on it?😩
Check pinned comments. Short answer: yes, but no time frame for success
Also, show me someone offering the same thing, but without the lawsuit, and i will happily get that
Like anyone has money to buy that wack aah game plus gta 6 is not out lol
I checked its still the same😮💨
Could join me on dbd or sea of thieves
You don't alr own GTA?
For anybody who just came here to check, and it still isnt fixed
Yeah for when it went sale because it was expensive lol
Yup🥲
its $10
I'm just lazyyy lol. I'm doin an 8 hour shift and honestly needed spark notes.
Gotchu
It hasnt changed, still same news
Damn. Fair enough, thank you
Guessing from all the texts it still no worky
Np🥲
Yup🥲
Damn
When is this gonna end …
It can’t be a problem with shadow so who up at EAC or whatever reagebating!
Real
it is for next gen
when epic says it does. either they green light it and shadow works, or they deny it and non-bespoke EAC games stay blocked on shadow.

Alright so we need to burn epic games got it
How is epic connect to vrchat?, that dont make sences
Easy Anti-Cheat is the industry-leading anti-cheat service, countering hacking and cheating in multiplayer PC games through the use of hybrid anti-cheat mechanisms.
Yup🤣👍
VRC uses Epics EAC
🤦♀️
Bro I can’t do this it’s gonna snow here soon and I want something to do with 13” of snow here
is thier a fix for cant run uner virtual machine
vrchat literally doesn't need an anticheat like this
i could get a usermode anticheat or super aggressive antitamper but eac is just too far
Looked at pinned messages
Imma just save up for a goo basic yet strong pc my friend sent me a link for I mean im employed so nyeheheheheee
Same if it’s not fixed by the time I get my tax money imma say screw it and get me a good vr ready laptop
Realistically yes vrchat could take off eac but yall don’t realize if they do the ripping, crashing,doxing, ip adress leaking would get 10x WORSE than it is rn like it was before vrchat added eac early into realize
dude if i get my tax refund before this is fixed i'm just getting a proper rig
Erm people do that anyway sucks to suck imo
Same here
This all bullcrap I feel like their going to try and find a solution make us wait just to tell us "oh we cant do anything we are sorry" like cmon bro its been many days since Friday 
If you guys want good PCs that are made in the US go to Viprtech (I think it’s called that)
Be mad bc u can’t play vrc pookie
y'all are getting refunds? damn. I owe like $3k and I haven't even filed investments yet.
It happens with the eac so what’s the point eerm
I didna get a refund
Okay blud ur just saying stuff to say it ur not even understanding what im saying
Ladies ladies let's calm down and have some tacos
clients still exist because EAC doesn't function under linux properly
ripping is killed thanks to encryption
ip leaking was killed when they introduced usage of steam's p2p with dedi servers
crashing is an avatar problem, they could of fixed that by using knah's anticrash src
doxing is impossible to stop, doesn't require VRC to be done
TACO
Say what
Who would I do that WHHAAAA
Let's calm down ladies and have some tacos ya?
L rage bait
Haiii
Yes but if they took off eac the impossible to stop that’s being somewhat blocked and having to takes multiple routes and maybe giving up people would just be a straight shot to hell around and then everyone and their mother will be complaining abt it happening look into the statistics eac doesn’t help 100% but it still somewhat helps to an extent like I said before it’s not as bad as vrchat was when they didn’t have eac so everything would be 10x worse
Looked like a success to me buster
so the solution is to find/make a usermode/controllable anticheat that doesn't screw over innocent users
Which is what I’m sure they r trying to do if u got any thing to help vrchat such as that go kindly recommend it to vrchat until then they r gonna keep eac and we r just gonna have to deal with it n
Yumis right. I was there before they added eac. I got doxxdd 10 times just from being in public lobbies with people
Eacs legit a necessary evil
My bf was he tells me abt the stuff all the time and it’s a big wtf moment for a lot of it
🇱
if they were able to get it to work the first time I'm sure they'll be receptive this time around too
I just think epic games are incompetent so the speed is entirely cuz of that.
Yes people still bypass it but it’s a trouble and hassle to but without it, it’s like giving the red carpet to people to bs and mess everyone over on vrchat
This is so real
M

As much as we all hate eac with a passion. They legit keep vrchat from going into straight anarchy
True they r lazy over there they even abandoned their own server lmao
your measage has been declined, go touch grass
And if that happens I’m good on playing vrchat lmao I’ll just sell my vrchat acc atp
Honestly fr. I remember when it didn’t exist. VRC was a whole war zone
Corny
Bleh bleh blo blo bleh bleh
You sure got me good mhm
Fr. Crashers, rippers and modders everywhere..I got hacked, doxxed, and got my wifi booted off simply because modders found it entertaining
At least corn doesn't die in my presence
Smelly
I was before Covid somewhat ish so I can relate but I hear the stories and what people talk about and Jesus I could have never played back then lmao
Oh it was hell incarnate
Is this the best you have or is the filter limiting your creativity champ
Think of the Great modder crisis of gta V a couple years back where even single player lobbies werent safe
Nah I just reply with dumb responses to dumb and mean people
I played for a good 3 months before the EAC was added, and I was also doxxed more times than I can count, so i'm glad for the EAC

My fist time on as a questie I went to a black cat confused asf this full body guy talked to me for a second and he started laughing told everyone watch this and he looked at me said here you go and after that my vr blue screened and maybe such a loud br noise I was scared😭it was a shared vr at the time to I was worried
I’m so mean yeah unlike you (that’s what you sound like btw)
I hate being questie.. everyone thinks that they're better than you.
NOOO I remember when people tried so hard to crash me and failed for some reason
ONG hence why I never go back to that side anymore
Yea after such I had stuff installed to prevent modders from crashing me
Now using a shadow pc I laugh at crashers can’t tell u how many times I sat there thru them tryna crash people while I was laughing ts was funny listened to my music to
I cant hear u lol
I'm only back on stand alone because it's broken rn, but I can't stand it.
Wut was that?
Same
And they hated me. When they found out they couldn't crash me they got mad and cussed me out
same
So how are you guys
Tried to ddos me. Failed. Tried to dox me. My VPN said no.
Chat im on another avi rn..I got four more to do before tn..I need ts fixed tn bro xD
Any new games yall are playing
I only like pc for the avis tbh
Are u a femboy jw
Nah I’m just a dude
Alr lmaoooo
I love when shadow jumps into the picture when someone tries to dox me. Had someone fr say " Washington, DC, ______ ( random address) " and I giggled like " oh no you found me!"
is it back
What???????
Lmqo love that
No we wouldn’t be here if it was fixed hun
okay girl I didn’t know
I find vrc femboys to be a lil cringe imo
u could’ve just been typing here for fun
Shadow acts like a VPN, so if you were to get doxxed, they're not really looking at your adress
Wasn’t being rude lmao! I said that so nicely like
Why doesn't vrc just switch to the paid version of EAC they make enough money from the people
I hate em RESPECTFULLY like I can’t they hate me I hate em love hate realationship yk
Ignore captain smug their currently on some heavy stuff rn
I can tell
Make sense
Yup
Oh it was before I even had shadow. It was when I actually had a physical computer
Before it got destroyed in a house fire
Any updates I swear to God if y’all say no, I’m a crash out
No
Oh I'm so sorry to hear!
Nope no new pins remember hun
Ah its fine it was like 7 years ago
Oooh never new that
Nope none
Epic is just bein a big baby fr I mean some point are valid but meh just get VRCHAT to make their own Anti cheat
For what they do and don’t want on the platform or sum
Ngl ya fair point they make enough money
Or hell, Upgrade from the free to the paid version
Go tryna get vrchat to tho🤷♀️ they don’t listen
Obviously
lol
New avi
Cool I suppose
Alrdy finished her hair slowly doing her clothes working and then her body
You fool you reacted to my message goofy ah
Which ones better yall?
White
U sure?
I like full black
Idk I mean they look like vans so I’d choose white but it’s all you dawg 
White
both as a tiggle
Nvm yes both
ima add sum slight glitter and emission to which ever one lol they r alrdy both toggle but idk which one should be the main for the glitter etc
too much black is causing the colours to just look bleh, adding some clash will improve depth and make it more eye catching
Make the laces glow or sum
or just hue/brightness on the white parts.
That’s why I was gonna add glitter a fading emission and bows in the back of it
make em static
Hmmm I couldddd
Black x
I always liked converse heels
Why don't you make them both and people can switch back and forth?
Why 🤔🧐
not my fault they’re exposed like that
i just did the math for my personal avi im making in the future and the price of all the assets is 412 dollars ._.
Btw it’s a weed avi like she’s hella cool fr
emissions are cool but white laces was better
Teach meeeee
DANG-
i dropped 1k on assets before ill do it again
It’s very easy funny thing is I learned by just messing around with the emisións
It’s 6:12pm I’m guessing nothing yet
Nope
i wish they drop a temp fix and then continued the discussion or other fix

They did apparently and then it broke again
oh
Yeah there doing a long term fix
I just wanna use my new avi 😭 hurry up fix this

when?
Right when it broke from what I've gathered
Temp fix was when it went down on christmas eve
They should compsate us for the time we haven't used our pcs
they should temp fix it again.
I agree
agreed, its been a long time now
Do a temp fix now. And then work on a long term fix
Agreed
dude i pay 54 for wut yo to sit here for days not being able to do sh it with my partner
They really should, in the background find a permanent solution so people can play the game and not have to wait without a timeline on when it’ll be back
just while they continue discussions to find a fix, that way we can still play and they won't lose business. it just means Epic can't drop an update for EAC while they do and honestly, that's fine with me. LMAO
My pc is due on the 30th this is really annoying
Mine is on the 26th
Mine was on the 19th lol but I use it for other games so
Oof

Mine is due 26th as well and I dont have money to pay it
Idk if im even getting birthday money
id say if their trying to find a LONG TERM fix id say were looking at atleast a month maybe thats just my opinion

I renewed mine I think day 2
mine is do on the 26 and where ever that person is said he would pay for everyones shadow pc
See i dont do that bc technically i have a pc back home im just in the middle of moving so i was keeping shadow pc that was i can still run my fbt
Same , a week maybe for me
Id say 2 maybe 3 months
This has been happening since 15th
yea
I use it because without it my laptop doesn’t run half the games I have / wanna play
If I’m using it for vrc I just use shadow on my iPad or phone
So we're not seeing vrchat anytime soon
Fair
Same here
Same here
Same
Probably not bro
Im a MacBook user and shadowpc saved me even if I pay $38 monthly
Every day i open this chat hopeful and all that hope gets ripped away 💔
Can’t shadow pc limit what we download or whatever to avoid people using specific clients
I pay $54
real
Same here man
Same
Real


So what’s going on now what’s messing up

Not to expensive tho I’m fine
Eac royally screwed all of us over
Like always
Fr
so possibly no vrc for us for a month or two if theyre looking for a long term solution? or did i misunderstand the convo
Im a single mom irl with a 4yr old and no job atm due to my kiddo being out of school due to us moving reason why its hard af for me to have the $54 Version
No ur correct
oki oki making sure !!
We're essentially arsed out big time
I pay the 59.99 one
Yup im done with shadow
Thanks to eacs sad excuse of a coding team
What one is that?
stop the negativity. just have hope. PLEASE.

Well if thats the case im not gonna pay every month until its fixed cuz vrc is my main reason of having shadow pc
I agree
Dang
i said possibly guys not a for sure thing😭
Lemme lookie rq
Let’s keep our hopes up and hope for the best, if we lose hope then there’s no point, we’re all in this together
Is this the situation that everyone goes ups then Downs then Ups Again
Yep story of my life 🥲
I've said it before, they have until my subscription renews to fix it. If they don't, I'm done until they do or I get a decent computer.
Has vrchat even responded or is the development team having some kind of cuddle puddle
A long term solution just means that they're looking for something that will work for the long run instead of just a temporary solution

They have. Tupper basically just said screw you guys we ain't helping
I’m assuming ur paying USD?
It’s a 5080 or 5070 either way 1tb of bs and allat
Yeppers! Sure am lol
I have the power gaming one
mhm mhm, and even if they are im sure theyd put a temporary solution as well maybe
That’s so homo
Again tupper being an arrogant (insert extremely vulgar insult here)
I’ve scaled thru the 30-40 then the 50 one now for new space and such for pics avatar stuff etc
Yeah, it'd definitely be recommended
whats the point in locking the thread they frl dont gaf 😭 (from the vrc server)
I would rather them take their time to find a permanent solution so we don't have to keep going through this every month. Even though I want pcvr instead of standalone right now
Ima take a nap and hope it's better when I wake up
I did it for performance reasons
Ohh okay, cause I have neo and pay $44.79 or something like that lol I was like damn only a bit more for the other but it would definitely be more for me
It's already been a 6 days since it happened🫠
They lowkey don’t give a damn in that server even the mods
They locked it because they dont wanna deal with it
That’s what I’ve been doing 
Same aswell! It’s runs so so much better on my newer one now graphics wise and for my trackers etc
exactly LMAO
Do they not understand like not section can afford a pc they market the whole game around pcvr it makes no sense bruh
i cant stand devs or mods for vrc theyre so incompetent
Like I Said They Don’t give a damn they want M O N E Y
Even tho this literally affects some of their OWN STAFF MEMBERS
I use it for literally everything content purposes avast gaming etc so I need the best I can get to make sure I’m good
For real. The lower end shadow PCs just are not good and can barely run vrc.
44.79 for neo?! I pay like 32
I love makin Avis. But I always throw them to the side because I can’t do something right 🥹
This tells you they don't even care for eachother
Right they don’t even care at all that their game is Turning into a mental asylum
Yeah cause I’m Canadian so it concerts
I play the lower one and it’s okay, I can’t say much
I agree if ur just playing vrc they r good but for more enhanced stuff dealing with vrc and allat def need to upgrade
The difference in price for different areas is insane
It already is
Because this outage even affects their own staff members
Prices varey where u live to
I went to play vivecraft on the 30 dollar one and I was running at like 5 frames a second lol
Ahh, I'm right beneath you. Literally. Canada pretty much wraps around where I live.
Oh lord Jesus u poor thing-
not to mention the preds that they refuse to do anything about, theyre just cheap and rude
Like hey I’m still Waiting it’s Fine BUT They don’t give a F*ck at least shadow is Trying unlike them
I had no extra mods either it was just the vivecraft mod
like holding age verification behind a paywall is disgusting and a money grab
Our games broken and messed up what should we do
MAKE A PAYWALL FOR AGE VERIFICATION
People were selling age verified accounts to minors on VRC like last month.
Ayooooooo???

That’s a new one
Indeed
ewwwuhhhh ugh so dirty i have a friend who bought an account off someone nd theyre a minor
HUH?
anything but do something useful
Excuse the mchell
The biggest thing they need to do for vrc is another optimization it’s gotten horrible again due to new stuff coming in etc
I emailed shadow again
have yall seen the item u pay like 5 dollars for and u can only use it 5 times
Y'know what??? I'm genuinely going to just stick to group instances at this point T^T
their discord support is more likely to reply
The whole Vrchat team is like money hungry
No for real, I have a friend who runs an 18+ group on vrc she found out about this because an 18+ verified account joined her group, she asked them what year they were born but the year they gave made them like 16
Hey at least shadow is trying and it is gonna be fixed I rather have be told what’s gonna happen then be Ignored by a Vr game company that don’t give a damn about their community
come boiii its been like a week and still nothing
Vrc has never cared about the community only the money
danggg we are cooked
Sadly yes
There isn’t gonna be anything bc there’s no updates yet they r still working on it
thats all they care abt its so nasty
a month or two is crazyyyy
I will here and be patient cause it’s all we can be 
Is it exactly a month or 2 or just outta nowhere they do a shadow Drop
Sobbing
I could save up for a real pc in a month or 2
i def think you shoud bbg
????
I’m a guy…but I most likely will
i know you are lol
they reply a lot quicker too. you can do it through the aid bot in the server.
Welp see you guys in about 1-2 months lol

Can can It be 1-2 weeks😖

Pls 1 or 2 weeks
I have event i do every week so this is hell
Agreed
Wait where does it say 1-2 months
well if i interfered maybe...but..hehe.. no one wants to see my dark side
Can it just be 1-2 hours
That’s so deadass
whoever said it’s coming back today needs to run a fade
Fr
Right
i mean the gyal up there had a pretty good point. if they are working on it for the long run its prob gonna take months lol
I say Take Someone from vrc team or epic off the map give then a reason to care fr
“Don’t make me unleash my dark side, they are much meaner than me” typa ah

stop just assuming it'll be months. I think weeks is a more reasonable time frame to begin with.
I’m weak asf 😭😭😭
lmfaoo i love you
for the love of god
I love watching proximity chat when he comes across those cringy ah furries saying ts bro ALSO I LOVE YA TO POOKIE
months.. months.. months..
HES SO REALLLL
“My demons are much stronger than me”
dont do it lol
nope. not listening. la la la la.
I would think so given that a message from shadow said they were working on finding a long term solution
I love watching Prox, cloudy, keloski (?)
People are scared of him and I’m over here thinking he’s funny as hell
Chat shadow has till Friday to fix this if it’s not fixed by then I’m starting losing my mind again
Proxy,rather than grave, cloudy,her, and another one it’s a girl but I’d have to find her thingy
long term solutions can come a lot quicker than you think.
Crash out twin
That’s real
it ok guys ill fix it...just stand back.. my eyes are gonna turn red
Grave is actually amazing
And well givin they have been probably harassed over it

I’m sorry but for those saying a month or two ima have to take u out back that’s just being a drama queen bruh u doin to much with that statement
ONG
never!
GET OVER HEREEEE
XD
Whaa!!!,bgdlghlefjghlwjrg
Find someone lacking out in public and say they user
Yall are amazing

even if it were to take a month, that's okay because my pc gets built next month but I still wanted to get back on and play with my boyfriend up unil he got here. :(
I WAS FORCED TO I SWEAR

NAAAAA THATS WHAT THEY ALLLLL SAY
I’m going to be a questie and say some slurs to some fat mods to get kicked on vrc
Real
omg im excited for you and your pc <3
That’s real
You sound like someone congratulating a pregnant mom lol

its their first pc of course i am lol thats propsss
I get it
Welp im giving it till my next payment if not im canceling 
THEY HELD ME AT GUNPOINT THEY MADE MEEEE
I’ll wait for mine to expire but before imma get all my vrc photos out first
Basically
That’s real
Its such bs cuz like some people make money off vrc and it ruins it for those people
She's only letting me out of the basement for this ;-;
is it taking longer because they are arranging a permanent fix this time rather then a temp fix
Is it getting fixed today
Probably
Nope
Not a chance buddy
N O
In terms there doing this so it doesn’t break
todays almost over
Guys just be patient
Highkey that could be it 
Don't lose your mind over it
I’m going through withdrawal istg
It’s only 8
Me everytime I open this chat with no updates
Heavily agree with you, patience is all we can do
Real
day ends in 3 hours and 10 minutes
That’s how I felt all day today 
The question is how are they gonna fix it like what do they even do add in some files or some stuff
I wish they would give us a temp fix and work on the permanent fix while we run off the temp
my cat is judging this chat- Im sorry guys- shes always judgy- ill cover her face
Talking about EAC
I honestly kinda agree with you there, but at the same time I do think it’s better for them to work on long term fix
whitelisting shadowpc 🤷♂️
Mainly because I do a lot of stuff on vrc to make extra money
But we are whitelisted ain’t we
i dont know
It’s how I’m able to socialize and I have a big community I tend to
I get that it's js hard when like, the other half of your income comes from thirsty vrc people
i only heard from word of mouth that we are whitelisted but no one showed any real evidence of that
had to join the discord because that "cant run under virtual machine" thing is happening again lmao
I understand that a lot, I also use vrc to destress cause I take care of my four brothers since my mother passed away so I tend to just be there listening to music and making friends
Welcome to hell I mean the party
Welcome to the party.
how yall making money on vrc 🤔
We are currently on day 6 of this clustershiz
It’s pretty easy, I used to but I stopped
just saying all of this couldve been avoided if vrchat made their own anti cheat but everybody knows they cant/wouldnt
avatar making?
day 6 of eternity
Lazy and greedy
indeed
I stream vrc on TikTok and that’s how I make money from it .
But I do also have a job so I’m not relying on that
Did y’all check it?
I take pictures of people, offer my personal time to be with them. Nothing sexual, just friendly stuff and a lot of people pay for it actually
Any news So far?
Nothing ofc
I have
Nope
Just did, still not working
I lowkey just use shadow pc to play pcvr games but mostly vrc
also i checked my shadow and it still wont connect
Nothing is working
Imma just be a questie tonight
Check the pins
I’ve been a questie the last couple of days and I hate it
I’ll have a pc in no time once I lock in

oh cool, thanks for pointing that out
It’s gonna be hell but it’s ok we ball twin we ball…
Agreed, we shall survive this together dude
gonna be so honest if they can cook up a long lasting solution to this and it takes a bit for it to actually get done then id be willing to wait that long lol
That's fair enough same here kinda
do you think i could do photography?
Fr
I hope they figure something out tonight, that would be good
Anti EAC group
If you ever wanna hang out as questies and suffer together just let me know 
I’m practically everywhere in vrc I be bored
unlikely but would be the best outcome
It's been six days
Im counting
Same here, I travel and I tend to make friends wherever I want
People are really nice
Same
I’ve been playing my Xbox and other games while I’ve been waiting, it’s slowly losing its effectiveness on distracting me
Not in my case people suck tbh
spiderverse pen click scene
Yeah!!
I’ve seen a few that do, but I tend to avoid them like the plague, deadass tho if you ever wanna hang out need someone to talk to im here, this goes for everyone ❤️
We can do this and survive till they fix it, we got this guys
❤️
I need shadow bruh I can’t listen to my goat don toliver while playing
the humble smartphone with spotify open set aside:
jk
That’s real
I’ve done it but then I keep my headphones undone and then I can’t hear people 😭
Same

Might as well play on mobile to save me the trouble
U and me both I feel myself actively decaying on this xbox
NO KIDDING
Imma try and use my slime trackers on quest if it’s fr gonna be weeks until eac decided not to be a poppy son of a female dog
slime trackers on shadow pc
Its possible
I despise standalone slime
slimefwd will help you with doing this
I don’t use slimefwd and mine work fine btw
Well I have no other choices rn it’s VRCHAT or heartopia
you using a phone.tablet,pc
are you ussing osc?
I used my laptop
I’m using quest 3s brand new, virtual desktop and the slime server, and tailscale that’s it people told me to use slimefwd but I caught myself using it perfectly fine a few times without meaning to, one thing I do SOMETIMES turn on is my ovr tracker or wtvr tf it’s called on steam I forget
Fixed?
No
No.
😭
I use a 3s toooo 🫰
Nope.
They will let us know when its fixed
Again yall if it was fixed this thread would be closed for good
I’m next to get the new steam one or quest pro for strictly the face tracking n
Yup
the steam frame is far superior and apparently gonna be cheaper not only do you no longer need a pc to play pcvr on vrchat but you have eye tracking aswell
From what I see and heard it’s not cheaper and ik it’s superior but for a quick cheaper route quest pro and it’s lighter and the whole don’t need a oc for pcvr idk about I’m waiting till my friends get theirs and ask them abt it bc id rather here from someone I trust abt the whole thing before making a big jumbp to that
Yeah
slimefwd just allows it to connect to my headset too so it ccan actually know where the ground is so im not clipping through the ground when i crouch
Wait that’s what it does?
Guessin no updates?
🤦♀️
I use my slimes just fine on Shadow PC as well
yeah it makes it so slimevr server recognizes your headset and controllers
(Dm the setup process for it so I can make sure I did mine fine and when I get in once ts fixes I’ll see how it looks)
Yea i use slimes on shadow
Jesus this stinks
sooo It's not getting fixed anytime soon I'm guessing.
😭
im gonna cry my trackers come soon and its still down
ig ill js use them standalone 
holy crap webbtail
How does that work btw? I've been thinking about getting some.
The VRChat docs explicitly list a fix for this (XML config change), but only Shadow admins have the access to apply it. I am not sure why they won't implement it globally or per user.
I also am under the impression that VRChat has the power to disable the VM check on their EAC. Personally, them having this ability raises the question as to why they have documentation about a backdoor to make VMs pose as a physical PC, but then not have VM checks disabled. It seems like it would break their "security model" entirely. Very contradicting if you ask me. I guess if they just disabled the check globally there would be more low-effort rippers and crashers.
Whatever the case is, the most reachable fix I can see right now is using an existing workaround that VRC has posted themselves and approves of since they aren't willing to/or haven't yet removed the check themselves and asking ShadowPC to implement it.
@dusky jay
Whoa wasn't expecting to see you here! You are literally one of my favorite content creators 🤗
Pinn the message
They haven't made any efforts to mask Shadow as a VM since the beginning. Presumably so that they could work things out with publishers to get games to run on their platform. There's stuff in the works for some other games that I can't talk about under NDA but. We'll see.
Ifnthere’s work around a where and what are they that won’t implement my acc get in trouble etc? I refuse to join the vrc serve and such regardless of that community and also a work around that’s not a pan in the ars to do!
So is it fixed?
If it’s fixed we all wouldn’t be here n
Work arounds aren’t a fix just temporary halter the issue
And as gashy stated if they did disable the eac like I said before aswell would mean more crashers etc
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/using-vrchat-in-a-virtual-machine
Here's the link Dashy posted by the way. Dyno ate it.
🚧Advanced Users Only!This information is generally only useful for advanced users and specifically only those running VRChat in a virtual machine. It will contain language that may not be recognizable or useful for most users.
❗️Running VRChat in VMs is Unsupported!Using VRChat via a Virtual Machin…
anyone got any good times to pass the time?
I’m to dumb to understand all that computer code/talk Jesus- 😭😂ima need someone to dumb it down for me lord
Yeah someone help with that😭
I got me some chicken teddies from wingstop for emotional support 
if it's possible for dead by daylight to allow shadow with no issues with EAC, then I know damn well vrc could if they wanted to.
GIBBBB
lemme get a bite😭
I'll try and see if I can get it if this isn't fixed by friday
wait is vrchat not available for vm anymore?
U like spicy
I've heard about this fix before but I'm pretty sure it reverts a lot every time you boot up shadow so you have to re-do it. A LOT. or maybe that was another coding fix for VMs.
if it is this fix, I'm pretty sure that's why nobody has pushed it as a suggestion because you have to re-do it just about every time.
You can't do anything in that link yourself. It's on the hypervisor end that you can't ever touch as a user. There's probably only a small team at Shadow that can actually poke the qemu config.
ouu yess!!
Hello new person
oh, then I'm thinking of another one.
Someone told me that Thursday was the golden day we’d be getting the fix, this was on Monday, so idk
one could wish
lets hope!!
I say end of the month
No
i hope not!
the weird part is that vendor ID is VRC specific. not anywhere else on the internet besides a german forum asking about the same topic.
which requires coding in vrc's files specifically. and i wouldn't try the one i'm thinking of because it can break things, it reverts every time and i'm pretty sure can get you banned if vrc finds out. but somebody suggested it to me before and I looked into it and found out it had a lot of risks and was like "hell nahhhh".
I mean we almost there its just 9 more days 
We need a Hail Mary for this situation
it's like three hours worth of coding every time you want to play and can even revert while you're in game. 😭
I'm manifesting Friday or at the latest, Monday-Wednesday next week.
Its so annoying 😑
Is it fixed
No ofc not
nope!!
but I have hope and maybe it's only taking so long because they're taking this as an opportunity for EAC to whitelist with even more games. maybe that's why they said a long-term solution.
Dawg that makes my brain hurt
H A I L M A R Y
I just wish there was more transparency with every higher up involved, I know we’ve gotten a few things here and there, but they’ve kinda had us stuck in limbo, and update would be nice for the thousands of people sending them money for the service
they've given updates to those that reached out to their support.
Agreed
they're all pinned lol
W banner btw I just saw it
Chicken sandwich
They gave us a blanket statement and basically said “we hope to give you good news soon” and left us in limbo since then, I think as the consumers we kinda deserve to be kept in the loop
Real
Yo
they said there's no set time frame but there will be a fix in their last reply, they're just trying to shoot for a long-term one this time.
My banner is just from the start of the endgame boss battle of zzz
and also NDAs means they can't disclose every detail to us. they're businesses. they can't tell us every little thing being discussed because of the situation so they sometimes have to be vague.
I’ve read everything that’s pinned, I haven’t seen that? Am I missing that part?
So you’re saying they legit said that there WILL be a fix?
Where are you getting the information about an NDA
Mods have an NDA.
literally business rules in general? contracts and partnerships can also come with NDAs.
And how do y’all know is my question?
she's literally a mod for shadow, bro.
Thanks for answering the question BRO
no need for the hostility and attitude. my god. lmaooo
Shadow staff have a separate one, but we're limited on what we can say about certain internal things. We can see the tip of the iceberg for Shadow communications but have direct comms to the engineering teams and directors that run Shadow.
We all agree that EAC is a the villain here
Right, but you can give it first, very cool 🤣
^^^^ exactly. ^-^
I didn't? I call everybody bro.
Because they lowkey F*cked us over not Once but twice lol
Gotta love NDA's
I just hope this gets fixed before the next pay period schedule
I do love NDAs, just not when I'm on the customer end of them. 💀
I been using mine to play CastleminerZ
Bro... The Xbox 360 version?
Yeah, I have to deal w an NDA & HIPAA, they do get annoying
Its on steam, $12 gets it for you and 3 other friends
i copped it for the whole gang
I used to work professionally in social media management so I know all about NDAs. 😮💨
Okay understood, and I’m not asking you to disclose any private information, but the transparency to pop in here from time to time just letting us know y’all still fighting for this situation? I think I can apple for a couple people as far as that type of transparency
Ah gotchu, Im an Insurance Broker
Bro, I used to play that back in the 360 ages but when I moved on to mc I completely forgot about it until you just now mentioned it
I check the internal chat every few hours for anything new.
I never did, I have played it so many times on so many things that I can barely recall any time played
and I know about HIPPA due to being raised by a nurse, as well as the fact that my major is psychology so it will be another thing I have to deal with in my next profession.
So i might know how to do this ooop
Ah good luck with that
I got ma food!!!!
Its easy, just go to command prompt
Does it work?
I wish I never did. That game used to be fire for me and my step brother to play together
it depends on what they're allowed to disclose. NDAs are different with actual business, it's not always just overly personal information that they can't share.
Someone please tell me or show me how to work this
Same if it works
I mean, theoretically yeah, Im not doing it cuz Im moreso happy to have some time to my mc world
Mmm ok
it's a fix only shadow can do to their coding, we can't do it ourselves.
Ah ok then
Ill make it work
Its literally just changing the operating system to recognize itself as its own system instead of a VM
Whatcha talking about nerds?
Y'all should def try that 
So yeah, it would work
Read up
Too much to read
Shorten it please?
which people have pointed out is possible a few times over the last couple of years actually. nobody knows why it hasn't been done yet.
They're tryna bypass EAC by messing w a VM to make it thinks its a standalone computer instead id a VM
I'm curious how early EAC is checking that info tho. It's supposed to be written into the QEMU config so it's there in preboot right as the bios initializes.
Can that even happen
it should work, coming from a coding standpoint
Yes, technology is only as good as the information you give it
I need help doing it
If i could get a video on how tf to do that id do IT XD
Run command prompt, copy paste the hyper
Same
What they caught us and we get banned
ummm caveman terms pls, I have a smooth brain
Ok ty
yeah, but i believe shadow wants to be whitelisted the right way. which i get, but this is something they could have done years ago to avoid being detected as a VM at all.
Bro might be on to something
So we are aloud to do this?
That's the thing, you COULD get banned for doing it
