#Not satisfied with the Shadow service.

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gritty oxide
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Hello, it's been 2 days since I renewed my subscription. Knowing that I have 300Mbps download and connected with Ethernet directly (no wi-fi bridges whatsoever) I still manage to get latency issues and stutters. The host is located ~150km from me. So that is not a problem. Does anybody knows why does that happen? I have changed several machines to try on with the same results. Thanks and have a great day.

naive sphinx
velvet meteor
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win10/win11 ? you have disabled windows GPU scheduling as it's incompatible with shadow ? which game ?

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and of course show a screenshot of quickmenu filtered on 10 minutes worth of gaming

gritty oxide
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yeah now 0 % packet loss

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😄

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also for cod warzone

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the game is literally unplayable considering the rig has 1080 and a decent cpu

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the ram is i guess the problem but still ~40 fps on literally the lowest settings possible

velvet meteor
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#🎮┃game-talk message

gritty oxide
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Everything I needed to do has been already done.

velvet meteor
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you said you set lowest setting possible, so no

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you have not answered if GPU scheduling is disabled

gritty oxide
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it is disabled

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and lowering the graphics i guess gives more performance

velvet meteor
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nop

gritty oxide
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isn't how that works?

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on my local pc as example if i lower the graphics I get more fps

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so does that also apply to the shadow pc's

velvet meteor
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in a GPU bottleneck case, but in a CPU bottleneck it's different :)

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you didn't read :)

gritty oxide
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Okay, I guess I am gonna try and tell the results.

gritty oxide
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so

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same results, followed all steps

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bottleneck does not occur

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following the task manager

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gpu usage stays around 70-80%

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rarely at 100% and still getting 40-50 fps

velvet meteor
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you may also edit game file and add more threads ("thread count for handling the job queue") in options.3.cod22 it's by default at 2, you can try 4 if you are on basic tier, and 6 on power

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may help snatch a few more fps

gritty oxide
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Do I have the right to demand a refund?

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Knowing I have bought the service 3-4 days ago

tardy herald
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I'm pretty sure you can get your money back whenever you want.

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I'm not sure.

next copper
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You may have bufferbloat issues on your vm or on your host or both. Do a bufferbloat test from waveform and see what results you get. It tests the under load latency which can be bad due to packet queueing improperly

wise echo
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damn how you got no latency my intttternet is 300mbs same as you

dusk tundra
white gorge
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@tardy herald @gritty oxide

white gorge
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Apart the bandwidth that fluctuate, I don't see nothing wrong here Koll. What about the packet loss?

pine dawn
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0

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Whenever I tab out of the game it goes back up to 60 fps

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when I tab into the game again it drops to 20-30

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Might be because of the ram or the cpu is limited

white gorge
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So, the internet it's not a problem it seems.

Ok, because the Cpu bottleneck the Gpu.

pine dawn
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Shadow PC Pro - Expert

559,99 kr. / month

no commitment

Our last generation solution.

Technical Specifications

CPU Intel Xeon W-3235 from 3,3 to 4.5 GHz 12vCores
GPU NVidia Quadro RTX 6000 (or equivalent)
41 GB RAM
1 TB SSD Storage (Up to 5TB+)

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Would this subscription help

dusk tundra
pine dawn
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Vivres

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Vcores

dusk tundra
pine dawn
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Well i already upgraded now

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And just gotte reinstall it

dusk tundra
pine dawn
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Well, will see when its finished downloading

dusk tundra
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Okay, let us know if it worked or not

grim tapir
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I have the same problem with 500/500 fiber. Lel, no idea why I can’t retain a stable connection to the shadow servers

mystic widget
pine dawn
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its just empty

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Might have to do a complete reinstall

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Which sucks because it takes 10 hours

mystic widget
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Sounds like it - have you checked GPU drivers?

pine dawn
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It is not a problem with the pc

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Its MSFS

mystic widget
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Have you tried a repair of MSFS?

pine dawn
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yes

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does nothing

mystic widget
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Sounds like a reinstall needed then unfortunately!

pine dawn
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Yes which sucks

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Cause it takes forever to install

mystic widget
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I know - I wanted to install the World Updates last week and to do 64GB took well over 8 hours. Wish you all the best with it!

pine dawn
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Thanks will update on performence

mystic widget
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Much appreciated - will look forward to it!

pine dawn
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And do you have addons installed?

mystic widget
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So, I'm using a MacBook Pro M1 but I have it connected to an Apple Studio Display, so I am running Shadow at 5K - so with DLSS in Quality Mode, I can get 25 FPS with Ultra settings, but I have to cap at 20 FPS to keep frames stable. Only Terrain LOD and Object LOD is turned down to 100.

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No addons - only Fenix A320. Nothing in terms of airports, apart from a freeware EGKK from FlightSim.to.

pine dawn
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I play on a Macbook pro from 2015 with intel cpu

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im getting around 40 50 fps

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on ultra

mystic widget
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Is that with Terrain LOD and Object LOD (I think that's what those options are called) at 200 which is default for Ultra?

pine dawn
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100

mystic widget
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Sounds good - that's with 2K and on the Shadow Pro Expert now?

pine dawn
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yes

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But still think I would be able to get more

mystic widget
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Yes, you should be able to - sounds like the added CPU cores have helped.

pine dawn
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I think so too

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But still hella exspensiev

mystic widget
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True, but not really much alternative - flight sims are CPU heavy. I just retired P3D for the same reason.

pine dawn
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Yeah but 12vCores is still not alot

mystic widget
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No, it isn't - especially when the whole package of Pro Expert is older hardware.

pine dawn
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I should have all 24 threads

mystic widget
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Exactly, that's what I think.

pine dawn
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I think we can convice shadow to provide more CPU power for that price especially with the power upgrade which is for 4K

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But it is just horrible because of the Limited CPU

mystic widget
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Yes, I got a survey from Shadow via email a few days ago and said just that - we need better CPU options for CPU heavy software like MSFS.

pine dawn
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We just need more people to complete these serveys

mystic widget
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Very true - hopefully that would help them focus on balancing out the package better by improving the CPUs.

pine dawn
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But I also think that the fps is worse because of my mac being old

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Yes they have to

mystic widget
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Should it matter that your Mac is older? Wouldn't the FPS being reported by Shadow be solely dependent on the Shadow PC?

pine dawn
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maybe

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some say it does matter

mystic widget
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I guess maybe if there was difference between what Shadow was reporting FPS wise and what was being streamed to your device.

pine dawn
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idk

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Gonna update my shadow pc now

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brb

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CPU is consistently at 100%, that could be a sign that CPU is bottlenecking the GPU.

mystic widget
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Yes, sounds like it still is - how is the GPU usage?

pine dawn
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at 15%

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Which isnt weird

mystic widget
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Have you tried increasing the render scale to push more work on to the GPU?

mystic widget
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What have you got the antialiasing set to at the moment in MSFS? TAA?

pine dawn
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DLSS auto

mystic widget
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Try TAA and increase the render scale above 100 - that will push more work on to the GPU.

pine dawn
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just put it to 200

mystic widget
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Did that change the CPU and GPU usage at all?

pine dawn
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loading in now

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yes

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no nvm

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its going up from 10% to 50

mystic widget
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That should help a little - you're trying to keep the GPU busy whilst it's waiting for more data from the CPU. Trying to compensate for the slower CPU in a way.

pine dawn
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Reinstalling MSFS when I go to sleep

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now I will experiment a little with fps

mystic widget
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Wish you well with it ✈️

pine dawn
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The sim is MAXED OUT ON EVERYTHING

mystic widget
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Are the FPS better? Still seems to be CPU limited. Also, did you go for more than 1TB storage? I thought the 1TB was all on 1 drive?

pine dawn
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idk what happend

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30 fps atm

mystic widget
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Understood - so the 1TB SSD is the Drive C then.

pine dawn
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yes

mystic widget
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30 fps maxed out is encouraging. How about when you pan around fast?

dusk tundra
full galeBOT
white gorge
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Cpu performance, it has been a big topic for years, and we managed ( with other users etc.. ) to get us on the Power Upgrade, a more powerful CPU also in terms of clock speed ( What we have now ). As I know, They can't only change the Cpu, because the hardware need to work with good temperatures and have balance on the datacenter, without strong issue, errors, crashes.
So, if it will be an upgrade in the future, it will be a new complete hardware

pine dawn
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Then they shoud not Call it power upgrade and say it Can handle 4K

stoic dawn
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It can.

pine dawn
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In Minecraft yes

white gorge
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In Forza Horizon 5 it can and others. Obviously on games that required a high speed Cpu it's hard to obtein with good fps.

pine dawn
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Because the choice of hardware is Inadequate

grim tapir
dusk tundra