#Nitro Voron 2.4

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odd dew
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I am thoroughly confused, mines different

jade citrus
# odd dew

You have them the right way in this picture,

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Now point the side that has the black screw towards the front of the printer

odd dew
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Unless I'm just being overly gentle with the wires

jade citrus
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Making sure not to pinch anything in the process

odd dew
jade citrus
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You could also rotate the heater cartridge to make it easier but shouldn't matter all that much

odd dew
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The heater block REALLY wants to unscrew. It takes zero effort

jade citrus
odd dew
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I don't see a screw for it

jade citrus
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Well, it kinda is the screw..

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You could loosen that assembly, and try and turn it against the heat sync, I think that's what I did

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You just have to watch your nozzle length and make sure it's got enough sticking out

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This hotends seen some shit heh

odd dew
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I think I got it

jade citrus
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Nice!

odd dew
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Does this seemingly extra cable from tap do anything?

jade citrus
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If you're not comfortable with doing that, just tuck the extra wires in there , it's kinda tight but it does fit

odd dew
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Hmm...haven't even seen anything about the filament sensor yet

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It's been sitting here the whole time but haven't seen anything about it in docs

jade citrus
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That's because it says nothing, I had to jump through hoops to get mine working and couldn't even get it working on that pin, had to use a different one

odd dew
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Oh fun..

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Where is it even supposed to go??

jade citrus
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And... It sucks. Lots of resistance, it's made out of the esun abs+ that will melt in chamber temp

odd dew
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Rip

jade citrus
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It just dangles above the hotend

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😭🤣

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It hurts is a lot too

odd dew
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I was hoping to have a filament run out sensor

jade citrus
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You can use that one, just I wouldn use it there...

odd dew
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I'll just zip tie it to the other wires heh

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The wire that is.

jade citrus
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Lol you can just depinned it at some point and attach it elsewhere

odd dew
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With my luck I'd break the harness lmao

jade citrus
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This is the intended purpose

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odd dew
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This routing for the x end stop seems...suboptimal...

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jade citrus
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There's a channel for the wires to go into under the switch

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odd dew
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Ahhhh..

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I hate having to bend these wires at extreme angles like this

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It's got heat shrink on it preventing the bend

jade citrus
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Generally once or twice is fine

odd dew
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Lol

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Once or twice

jade citrus
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Lol make a little loop if you have to

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odd dew
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YIKES

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Lmao

jade citrus
odd dew
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Trying to figure out how to stuff the cables under the cover 😅

jade citrus
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Good luck

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Lmao

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I found that generally you can kinda lay one over another but no more than 2 time, just make sure the screw hole is clear

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Could have to deal with this.heh

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odd dew
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Idk how this is possibly supposed to fit over the toolhead PCB

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jade citrus
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Remove that zip tie, lay everything out as flat as you can get it

odd dew
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The alignment between the front piece and toolhead board is...not great..

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I can get it to mesh together with some force but it feels wrong

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Have to like pull down on the front and push at the same time

jade citrus
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Double check alignment, it shouldn't take force but it may take pursuasion

odd dew
jade citrus
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Oh dude that's fine

odd dew
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Glad I noticed this now

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Are they really wanting me to cut and strip this cable myself 😳🤣

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I can do it no prob but geez

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Tomorrow is wiring..

jade citrus
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I did a lot of that tonight lol

sweet jasper
odd dew
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Ok lol

sweet jasper
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I have seen quite a few of them go up in smoke because of misalignment. This will prevent you from becoming one of the casualties

odd dew
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Thanks homie

odd dew
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@jade citrus is the file available for that filament run out sensor so I could just print it with my own filament so it doesn't melt?

sweet jasper
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If you insist on using a runout sensor, I would place it outside the chamber. Personally I hate them.

odd dew
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How do you know when filament runs out?

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Or loads via a BoxTurtle or something?

sweet jasper
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I don't let it run out. LOL

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I weigh my spools when new, so I can just grab a random spool and know I have at least enough to finish the job. I do use the box turtle at times for runout, but thats only when I am cleaing out a bunch of partial spools

odd dew
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Yeah but the box turtle needs some kind of "trigger" to know the filament loaded

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How do you do that?

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You use ramming?

sweet jasper
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I use ramming, but others use filament detection sensors. I have used them in the past but they were a bit unreliable.

odd dew
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Oh my plus4 the run out sensor acts as the detection sensor as well. I think the filamatrix has a built in sensor...they might be the best option

sweet jasper
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Filamatrix is definitely the best option if you are planning on a box turtle. at least starting out.

jade citrus
odd dew
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Filamatrix is different from fillamatrix?

sweet jasper
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filametrix is different from FilamATrix. the latter is the one updated and supported by the boxturtle crew

odd dew
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I'd like to go stealthchanger.

sweet jasper
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"Go with"? are you dating it? 😛

odd dew
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I might

jade citrus
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With how much money you'd have to throw her way I'd be concerned about how one sided the relationship would be hiding

odd dew
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😭😳

odd dew
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Does tap work with stealthchanger?

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Would I need a tap for each head?

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Did I already ask this

sweet jasper
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stealthchanger requires TAP. it is a different shuttle and carriage though.

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And it is quite nice upgrade

odd dew
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How much of a pain is it? Doesn't seem like a 2nd toolhead would be too expensive.. don't need another toolhead PCB do I?

sweet jasper
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You would need another toolhead pcb, you need an entire second toolhead, an alignment endstop like the sexball, and a lot of patience. It is still a worthwhile change to that shuttle even if you never do automatic toolchanges though

jade citrus
odd dew
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Sexball??? Helllll yeah I'm in

sweet jasper
odd dew
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I gotta try getting 1 working first...

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I hope I wired everything right in the toolhead lmao..

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Gonna double check when I get home. Don't want magic smoke

jade citrus
odd dew
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Then gotta do the whole electronics bay

sweet jasper
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Take lots of pictures and ask lots of questions if needed. Nobody here minds at all

odd dew
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As long as y'all are around later 🤣

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Kinda weird how I have to jump between multiple manuals for everything

sweet jasper
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I know it feels that way but it makes sense when you think about what is truly stock on these machines. Yours is far from stock even though it is a very common build

odd dew
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And the fan jumpers are set to 24v

sweet jasper
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Did you say you have a pt 100? Switches should be on on on off. Top left pic

odd dew
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Its a PT1000

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i said it wrong.

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formbot instructions

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sweet jasper
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Cool.

odd dew
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also.. they gave me a PG7 mount STL and umbilical thing but I heard PG7 is bad?

sweet jasper
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Not bad. Bonkers to suggest it is bad as well. 😂 PUG’s benefit is that clamps around the cable instead of sliding over it. That means you have to depin the canbus cable if it has connectors on each end already

odd dew
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I mean from your description it kinda sounds bad

sweet jasper
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The are more flexible than the pugs. Just different

odd dew
boreal marsh
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PG7 is great for cables not already terminated. PUG is great for cables already terminated.

sweet jasper
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It’s in the name. hehe

odd dew
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TPU im guessing?

sweet jasper
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I have some in abs

odd dew
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🤨

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how would they be flexible if printed in abs

boreal marsh
sweet jasper
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That’s why I always have so much difficulty finding them then hehe

boreal marsh
odd dew
boreal marsh
sweet jasper
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Same thing in this case

odd dew
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dope

odd dew
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which one do i want???

sweet jasper
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I will let @boreal marsh answer getting ready for dinner

boreal marsh
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I would answer but my phone doesn’t like that printables page…

odd dew
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oof

sweet jasper
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7mm zip tie medium or maybe 5mm

boreal marsh
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Basically. You’ll want to measure the thickness of your cable to get the inner diameter of the PUG, then it’s really up to you on how long you want it to be.

sweet jasper
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Personally I would just use the pg7 you already have

odd dew
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deadass?

boreal marsh
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If you’ve got it might as well use it.

sweet jasper
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And already have the parts printed for it

odd dew
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I think this is the only cable that runs of the toolhead

sweet jasper
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It’s easy to replace later. You just snip the old one off

sweet jasper
odd dew
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cool

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welp

boreal marsh
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You will have to depin that JST-XH connector to fit it through the PG7

odd dew
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i guess its time to get into the undercarriage

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NOOOOOO

boreal marsh
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You just press the little tab down and pull the crimp out. It’s super easy.

odd dew
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depinning connectors is always sketchy cause the pins can break off so easily

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well the retaining hooks

boreal marsh
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Not when crimped correctly. I’ve yet to break one.

odd dew
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My tap is the 5 wire one on top and the limit switch is the 2 wire one to the bottom left of it

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My connectors have different pin counts ofc

boreal marsh
odd dew
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Ope

boreal marsh
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You need the RP2040 one. Not the older STM32 one.

odd dew
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Yeah

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I looked it up on Google instead of following the formbot link on GitHub this time. I did follow the right one up till now lmao

boreal marsh
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lol. Fair. If you look it up again just be sure to search for BTT SB2209/RP2040

odd dew
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My CB1 does NOT want to plug into the manta

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Feel like I'm gonna break kt

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Can only get one side to clip in at a time

sweet jasper
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Might be worth a post in #voron_electronics not familiar with those boards

odd dew
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@jade citrus did u have this issue?

jade citrus
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im pretty familiar with pc componets ans tiny button style connectors, its kinda like a big one of those, id just lightly get it lined up on there, wiggle it a little bit ( with essentially zero force downward) and itll kinda find its place, should be able to use 1-2 fingers with light amount of force to click it into place , you may have to kinda "shimmy" it evr so slightly as you go

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should not require much force at all.

odd dew
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I tried that... It takes quite a bit of force to even get 1 side to clip in..

jade citrus
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is it lined up all the way?

odd dew
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Yea

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Holes line up. Connectors line up

jade citrus
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mine didnt take a whole bunch of force, wouldnt hurt to ask in the channel that wheels reccomended

sweet jasper
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There is also a ping for more eyes

jade citrus
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man id rather have thse issues than trying to figure out uart on an uncooperative skr mini XD

odd dew
sweet jasper
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It can take a little time, be patient. It’s better than breaking something

jade citrus
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im pretty sure ive been destructive enough today, hell i just opened a help ticket

sweet jasper
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Yes, @odd dew a help ticket is always an option as well.

odd dew
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Most ppl will just say "mine went right in like a hotdog down a hallway!"

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Maybe I gotta spit on it

sweet jasper
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Or patience. There is plenty of stuff to mount and wire up while waiting

sweet jasper
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Alright back to building. 😂

odd dew
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Yuppp

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Idk what motherboard mounts I'm even supposed to use. There were a couple different kinds in the files..

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All I know is these mounts really wanna strip under very light tension from the screws

sweet jasper
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Probably related to a slight dimensional issue with the print. If you have m3 hardware, you can always run bolts through and put nuts on the other side.

Under normal use, there is only the weight of the board, so it doesn’t need to be super tight

odd dew
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Fair enough

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Are the mounts supposed to match..? I'd assume so lmao

sweet jasper
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Sometimes. Sometimes they are mirrored, sometimes they are completely different. Those look in line though, so you should be good to go

odd dew
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They're not inline lol

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The board would have to twist

sweet jasper
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The slots are there so you can adjust the part that clips onto the din rail. Slide them until they are centered

odd dew
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They're fixed

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No sliding

sweet jasper
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Not sure what their plan was there. Maybe pick the one that is closest to centered and print a copy? Lack of knowledge on that board is a bit limiting

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I am heading to bed. Good luck!

odd dew
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got it

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thanks

odd dew
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@jade citrus how'd u stop the PSU sliding down the din rail?

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There's a PSU support bracket in the files that I printed but it seems to be for the stock rail orientation

jade citrus
odd dew
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To what lmao

jade citrus
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the bottom panel

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i dont remember tbh lol

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its supposed to stick out and attach to the 2020

odd dew
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Yeahhh

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The bracket just ain't long enough or the right shape lmao

jade citrus
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yeahid just find a non destructive way to mount it somewhat in place

odd dew
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Hmm..

odd dew
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Ending it here for the night

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odd dew
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How's it look

odd dew
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Still gotta do z motors

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And ab

jade citrus
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Looks good to me!

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Are you grounded to the case of the PSU? And the frame in some way shape or form?

odd dew
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Nope

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Does the kit have wires for that..?

jade citrus
odd dew
jade citrus
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the biggest concerns is all the stuff in close prximity to mains, to keep you from being electricuted in the case of a short to the frame

odd dew
odd dew
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Cant really tuck that wire away..

jade citrus
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Sure you can, under the board into the channel, to the front and over

odd dew
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Hmmm....

odd dew
odd dew
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I'm confused on how to hook up this z chain and pg7 mount and can't find anything in the manual

odd dew
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Do I have the wrong cable bridge? Don't see a way to mount the pg7. I do also have this piece but I don't see a way to connect it

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ashen agate
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The cable bridge in the formbot kit is ass. Though, the one you linked actually allows you to screw it in.

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I think the intent is to not use the nut

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I would advise you slip on both pg7s before managing the cable.

odd dew
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I don't understand why it includes those 2 files, I see no way of mounting the one I was holding there.

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And the first one doesn't have a pg7 mount

ashen agate
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There is another piece to the first that grips the connector directly, but not the pg7

odd dew
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I have the piece for the other end that screws to the top of the A drive with the pg7

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So that end should be ok.

ashen agate
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Do you have access to a printer?

odd dew
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Yea

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👀

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@ashen agate why?

jade citrus
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the one on the right is for the ab drives , the one on the left has a second peice that just grabs the btt cable, and yes, its trash

ashen agate
jade citrus
ashen agate
jade citrus
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the one he linked is what ive been using for a while, its the first abs print i ever did lol

odd dew
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Cutout or no cutout?

ashen agate
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If you want to change it later, cutout.

odd dew
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Alright

jade citrus
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cutout lets you run the cable through as you please, no cutout will require it to be fed throlugh it first

odd dew
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Choice seems obvious then

ashen agate
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I did cutout cause i swapped from stock.

jade citrus
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the cutout version works fine btw , no difference in stability

ashen agate
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My graphs look interesting but normal.

jade citrus
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i killed alot of hardware last night but im finnaly moving away from SB

odd dew
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whats the best print orientation for this thing

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jade citrus
odd dew
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misalignment protector

jade citrus
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not familiar with that one

odd dew
ashen agate
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Probably for the toolhead board

jade citrus
south plume
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And I don't remember exactly but the z drive wires may be of different lengths

odd dew
south plume
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I just finished my formbot 2.4 350 not too long ago, and the big thing I recommend is just skipping the cb1

odd dew
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I just ran that one under the board into the channel behind it

south plume
odd dew
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I could've done that I suppose

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Too late now

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They're in there permanently

south plume
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Probably not the best choice but 🤷

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Oh the Dremel I mean

south plume
odd dew
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The double sided tape they provided ripped the top layer off my laminate dining room table...

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That shit ain't coming off 💀

south plume
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You are missing at least 2 I think

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Channels

odd dew
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Gotta find places to put them lol

south plume
odd dew
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I wasn't expecting it to be that strong

south plume
south plume
odd dew
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See there's a HOLE in the middle there idk how they managed to get a channel over the hole that has wires coming through

south plume
odd dew
south plume
odd dew
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What issue did u have with the CB1?

south plume
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My cb1 kept dieing randomly

odd dew
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Oof

south plume
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You might have more luck but yeah

odd dew
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Did u use the steel wire for the umbilical

south plume
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I ran my umbilical to the exhaust port

odd dew
south plume
south plume
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And yeah I get just wanting it to be done

south plume
odd dew
south plume
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Oh. Another thing, I'm not sure if nevermore v4 is the best choice

odd dew
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It is running to the a drive currently..

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I planned on using bed fans instead of nevermore

south plume
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Then there's some plastic covers in the kit which you put over them

odd dew
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Then do they go down the z chain?

south plume
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Yeah

odd dew
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I see

south plume
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I can't really get a picture of mine right now unfortunately, if you send a picture of yours I can double check it though

odd dew
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Well if u could be around to help finish it up tonight that would be sick

south plume
odd dew
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Dope

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I mainly wanna double check all my wiring is correct

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Don't want magic smoke

sweet jasper
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send some pics 🙂

south plume
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Oh shoot

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Just remembered

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Double check your mains wiring if you're following formbot's guide

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They had neutral and live swapped iirc

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It's not a humongous deal if they are, but it's better to be sure

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Should be wired like this for US

odd dew
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Pics from last night I'll get better ones when I get home

south plume
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Oh and here's a picture of my eBay when I was hooking everything up

low crescent
south plume
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Photos wasn't cooperating so that's the best I've got unfortunately

south plume
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Lol

south plume
odd dew
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Looks like I got the AC wiring on the switch and plug correct then..?

low crescent
south plume
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You do have the PSU and mainboard swapped between rails though

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So long as everything reaches its fine

odd dew
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Everything is connected except the steppers

south plume
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Sounds like you're good then

odd dew
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The whole correlation between x/y/a/b motors is confusing lmao like..which is which

sweet jasper
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B on the left A on the right

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BAAAAA LIke a sheep

south plume
sweet jasper
odd dew
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Left when looking at it upside down? Right side up? On its side? Inverted?

south plume
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A drive is attached to z chain

odd dew
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The purple pg7 mount on the a motor makes it easier but is the A motor considered X in wiring?

south plume
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You can always change it in config

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So long as you put the A and B motor drivers next to each other it doesn't really matter

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Even then that's really not that big of a deal

odd dew
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Until it crashes into something during software setup 💀

south plume
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I mean you'll have to remember which is which

odd dew
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So I think I read to keep the stealthburner front unplugged from the toolhead board during flashing?

south plume
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I am unable to answer that since I didn't use a thb

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Sorry

sweet jasper
south plume
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There should be a 128mb SD card for flashing if you haven't found it already

odd dew
south plume
odd dew
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Do u only have to flash the m8p or is there toolhead board flashing involved also

south plume
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More than likely. the sb2209 manual probably says how

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You may have to do it from klipper using the m8p, but I don't know

odd dew
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I see I see

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First step is mounting the cable chain and connecting the steppers when I get home...then I'll send pics of it everything for a 2nd set of eyes

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Then firmware

odd dew
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Weird thing I noticed ..is there really not an ecas connector that holds the ptfe in the toolhead on this thing?,

sweet jasper
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Why? The filament is under tension. Not needed until you are using an assist extruder

odd dew
sweet jasper
jade citrus
odd dew
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I have a box turtle already but it's on my other printer. I'd have to make a filamatrix

sweet jasper
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Its a pretty normal move. Its not a forklift upgrade. You are just going to transfer stuff over and add a couple parts.

odd dew
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I feel like I HAVE to go stealthchanger, it was the main reason I went voron lol.

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?

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Did u delete a msg

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Or am I going crazy

sweet jasper
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yep. Wanted to make it longer.

I think the next 6-9 months in the 3d printing-land are going to be game-changing.

odd dew
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How so

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INDX?

sweet jasper
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odd dew
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🤔

sweet jasper
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The faster toolchanging gets, the faster the resolution improves on things like that bency

odd dew
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@south plume

south plume
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Is your bed/ssr connected to the right heater output?

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Probably not a huge deal, but there should be a HEB iirc

odd dew
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HEB?

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Should be..

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#3 and 4 in from the left edge

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Technically I want it disconnected during firmware/software install anyway right?

odd dew
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Uhhh yeah...tell me how I'm supposed to connect this to the ssr from the heater bed?? @jade citrus @south plume

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south plume
jade citrus
south plume
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Then you attach the other one to the frame with m3

south plume
odd dew
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By frame does it mean the black extrusions or the din rail?

south plume
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Black extrusions

odd dew
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Not sure how well I trust a ground through anodized aluminum

south plume
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You need to scrape off the anodization

odd dew
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Is there a preferred spot?

south plume
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I did mine just underneath the bed

jade citrus
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It just matters that it's on there somewhere entirely up to you to make it look good /hide it better

odd dew
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I'm fighting to get 2 ground wires to secure to the ssr screws lmao

jade citrus
odd dew
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One from the bed, one from the distribution board

jade citrus
odd dew
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😵

south plume
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That whole mount should be grounded if done properly

odd dew
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Their thing has 2

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jade citrus
odd dew
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Yeah I know I wanted it to be neat but oh well ig

jade citrus
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They may have updated it tbh

odd dew
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Does it go between the ssr and the...painted...metal bracket?

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Or on top of the ssr

south plume
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On top

odd dew
#

Ok

south plume
#

You have a multimeter right?

jade citrus
#

Mines a bad example as I rearranged a few things and added to it to solve my specific issues but yeah I have two, one from the 3-6 and one from the bed

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I am grounded to the frame, it's just a touch more... In depth lol, I was having a neutral to ground fault and it kept biting me, since fixed that issue entirely just had to add some more grounds

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Also, please don't stack the spade connectors, they will come loose.

odd dew
jade citrus
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"do as I say not as I do" looking ahh printer is what I've got

south plume
odd dew
jade citrus
#

Old pic, cant remember

odd dew
#

Gotcha

jade citrus
#

Kinda like looking Through pictures and realizing where you messed up

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For instance

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Compression killed it but the bottom 3 outputs are ground, top 3 are vin

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Maybe the other way, either way it's fixed now but it was like that until I noticed it in a picture

odd dew
#

Surprised u didn't burn the neighborhood down

odd dew
#

So..how do I sand a slot down? 😅 @jade citrus

#

Cause the t nut goes inside the slot..

jade citrus
odd dew
jade citrus
#

Yeah like use the t nut to hold the screw but take the paint off of the outside where the ring terminal will actually be

#

If you have a few washers they may help there

#

Just using the t-nut as a clamp

odd dew
#

Omfg

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Stripped the damn screw trying to screw it into the t nut

boreal marsh
odd dew
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Fighting to get the screw out with pliers now..

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What a fkin nightmare

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ashen agate
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Probably check for continuity if you have a multimeter

odd dew
#

My dude the screw won't even tighten and now it won't come out

ashen agate
#

Pliers n vice grip time

odd dew
#

My pliers keep gripping the washers instead of the bolt head 💀💀

#

So how did u guys screw into the t nut with it parallel to the bottom frame piece..

boreal marsh
#

I uhhhhh….. uh…. Just didn’t ground the frame. 😬 😅

weak plaza
odd dew
#

Are the A/B motor cables and the can cable the only ones that need to run through the z chain?

boreal marsh
odd dew
#

No x chain on formbots

#

Hr uhhh I still have to install my y end stop..

#

Trying to find the mystery of the missing z chain anchor rn

boreal marsh
odd dew
#

Oh ok

boreal marsh
#

Some people like to toss a thermistor in that chain for a chamber temp. It tends to help ensure you’re starting prints at the same temp everytime.

odd dew
#

I'll add that later then

#

There's not a stock chamber temp sensor huh

boreal marsh
#

Nope. Lol

odd dew
#

Cringe

#

I knew I should've printed extra z anchor pieces

#

I have no damn clue where it went

#

JT fell out of the hole and disappeared

boreal marsh
#

I feel that. Like the washers I kept losing randomly yesterday. Lmao

odd dew
#

All this misalignment protector is doing rn is stopping me from getting the front piece on

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boreal marsh
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We blame @sweet jasper

jade citrus
#

i never bothered with the misallignment protector

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just took a second to line it up then i wiggle it into place

sweet jasper
#

Its all fun and games until it gets installed one row off.

weak plaza
south plume
odd dew
odd dew
south plume
odd dew
#

Idk

sweet jasper
south plume
# odd dew Idk

Pt1000 is the better thermistor and is what the formbot kit comes with. If your v6 doesn't have one, swap the thermistors and use the worse one for your chamber thermistor

#

Not a huge deal though if it's a big hassle to swap them

jade citrus
odd dew
south plume
boreal marsh
south plume
boreal marsh
south plume
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Oh sorry

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Misread

odd dew
#

Yes I have a pt1000 rn for my e3d v6

south plume
#

Not all awake right now

odd dew
#

As long as the tz v6 comes with one we're good

boreal marsh
boreal marsh
odd dew
#

Interesting

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So I should have one for the chamber then but the wire definitely won't be long enough

low crescent
odd dew
#

Ntc?

boreal marsh
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Negative temperature coefficient

low crescent
#

Yeah. It is not a PT1000

boreal marsh
#

A PT1000 is a PTC thermistor. Positive temperature coefficient. Just means that a NTC thermistor goes down in resistance as temperature increases and a PTC goes up in resistance as temperature increases.

low crescent
odd dew
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Fuck

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Well surely they aren't expensive..

low crescent
# odd dew Fuck

It is not really an issue. Just use the NTC port on the tool head board.

odd dew
low crescent
odd dew
odd dew
#

@sweet jasper hernia surgery went well

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I hurt tho

south plume
odd dew
south plume
#

Or actually if you make a solder joint you should be good since the manta comes with crimps

sweet jasper
south plume
#

Or do you have the heater cartridge

odd dew
#

Oh lmao nvm

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I was thinking of the heater

odd dew
#

So....lineux db?

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Nvm stealthchanger looks better

odd dew
#

TZ v6 is out for delivery 👀

odd dew
#

So I can use the thermistor from my e3d v6, extend the wires and turn it into a chamber temp sensor yes?

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It's a pt1000

boreal marsh
#

Yes

odd dew
#

Sweet

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Where would I plug it into the manta?.

ashen agate
#

Any of the free temp ports per the manuel

odd dew
#

not used to this level of expandability

ashen agate
#

You may need to finagle the settings and jumpers

odd dew
#

@jade citrus i need assistance

#

formbot included 2 micro sd cards in the kit. One is a generic black one that says "128mb", the other is the 32 gig sandisk. I assumed the 128 would be to flash the board but apparently not, its not large enough for the image (and I think I wiped whatever was on it if anything was on it...)

#

the tz v6 is so tiny compared to the e3d v6

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Did I order the wrong tz v6?? It's so much smaller than the e3d and the plugs are completely different..

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sweet jasper
odd dew
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This is all the extras they gave me in the kit..

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sweet jasper
odd dew
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sadness

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What's this stuff for?

low crescent
odd dew
#

I think I have the right jst

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sweet jasper
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That’s to make it a drop in replacement for the v6. If you print the dragon duct, you don’t need

odd dew
#

I dont have one of the black connectors

#

i could prob steal it from the e3d.

low crescent
odd dew
#

Oh..

#

so the connector I do have I dont need

#

and the connector I dont have..i do need..

low crescent
#

Just plug that in and call it your chamber temp sensor.

odd dew
#

I have to extend the wires

low crescent
low crescent
odd dew
#

😮

#

IT HAS ONE

#

chamber temp sensor in the toolhead??

low crescent
#

It makes more sense for Trident but you could move to the middle of the box for preheat and use it there.

odd dew
#

hmm

#

this tz is so much smaller how can it possibly be better lmao

low crescent
#

Longer met zone.

#

Good for about twice the flow compared to the one in your kit.

odd dew
#

hot

#

Ok so the red needs to be replaced with the 2 pin atx with the clip, the blue stays the same

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and yes i still have my hospital band on

low crescent
#

I set my ABS limit to 25mm3. You will need to go fast to use all of it.

odd dew
low crescent
odd dew
#

is that a v0?

low crescent
odd dew
#

ah..i dont know the names of all connectors.

#

the right one came with the toolhead board tho.

odd dew
#

Am I right about which connector has to be swapped?

low crescent
#

Yes.

odd dew
#

I uh...

#

idk if the cable is gonna be long enough to reach

#

Yea that cable isn't long enough.

#

Also, do I have the board spacer correct?

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low crescent
#

Hmm, that seems too far to the right from memory.

#

The board has standoffs built in so IDK if you need the spacer.

#

My tool head board (self sourced) had the connection on the front and did not need extensions but wires were included in the box.

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odd dew
#

that would explain why the front doesnt go on smoothly.

low crescent
odd dew
#

My hotend plug is on the back of the board

low crescent
odd dew
#

im just sayin mine wont reach

#

oh nice it only recorded 1 seconid

#

the long cable will reach, short cable will not

#

so which ones the heater? lol

boreal marsh
#

The one labeled 104NT is the thermistor.

odd dew
#

ok well then my cable is DEFINITELY too short.

#

wtf

south plume
#

The MCU firmware, are you trying to write the pi image to the 128mb card?

odd dew
#

💀

south plume
#

You put the firmware.bin you generate with klipper on that card and put it in the MCU SD card slot on the manta

odd dew
#

errrr

#

so put pi os on the 32 gig card, put it in the printer, ssh to the printer to generate the firmware.bin, put the firmware.bin on the tiny card and insert that one too..?

south plume
#

Yes

odd dew
#

thats not confusing at all

south plume
#

You don't have to leave the 128 in after flashing though

south plume
low crescent
#

Or you just flash with esoterical's guide and use katapult instead of the SD flash.

south plume
odd dew
#

Am I doing this wrong? They wont smoothly slide all the way in and lock into place and it keeps pushing the pins inward.

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low crescent
odd dew
#

huhhhh

low crescent
#

Your red crimp seems to have crimped on the stop tabs and the wires crimp portion is not done.

#

They also go with the stop tabs up towards the latch.

odd dew
#

its BARELY on the insulation

#

I only have 5 of these lol

low crescent
#

1 bit. is insulation, too loose.
2nd is on some insulation and wires (which go to far). The wires should stop after the 2nd flag and before the 3rd item.
3rd item should not be touched.

odd dew
#

ugh

#

the red wire pulled right out.

odd dew
low crescent
south plume
odd dew
south plume
#

Are you using the right size hole?

odd dew
#

fuck if i know

odd dew
south plume
#

When I was crimping 24awg I used 1.9 for insulation and 1.6 or wires iirc

low crescent
#

What? They don't

odd dew
odd dew
south plume
#

Wire

odd dew
#

better?

#

ooh it slid right in and clicked easily this time

#

weird

low crescent
odd dew
#

New black

low crescent
#

You can do a bit more forward to get the end of the crimp done but much better.

odd dew
#

its hard to get it in the right amount without getting the wire into the 3rd tab while also making sure the first tab doesnt crimp the wire

#

So which port does this new thermistor plug into?

#

guessing i have to change the dip switches

low crescent
#

TH1, Ignore the dip switches.

odd dew
#

am i blind

low crescent
#

Sorry, TH0

odd dew
#

ah..ok..

low crescent
#

Just to the left of the 4 pin.

odd dew
#

and while flashing, I want the CAN cable unplugged and the bed heater too

low crescent
#

Unplug the hotend heater and SSR just in case.

odd dew
#

well, the can cable also houses the power and all that stuff so having that unplugged leaves nothing connected to the toolhead

low crescent
#

You can flash katapult over the USB cable.

odd dew
#

what usb cable?

#

the only usb cable i know of goes to the screen

south plume
#

Generally

#

I have mine hooked up to a standard pi over uart but yeah

low crescent
south plume
odd dew
#

again, what usb cable?

south plume
low crescent
odd dew
#

Oh.

#

alright lets do one thing at a time.. lmao

#

this micro sd is giving me a rough time

sweet jasper
odd dew
#

it wrote SOMETHNG to it..

image.png
#

wtf

#

its failed twice in a row

low crescent
#

Umm, I thought you had a 32 GB SD card.

#

What did you write to?

odd dew
#

its 16

#

i was wrong

#

i work in IT professionally and this is making me look dumb.

#

wtf

#

I downloaded CB1_Debian12_Klipper_kernel6.6_20241219.img.xz from https://github.com/bigtreetech/CB1/releases, opened it with winzip and dragged this file out CB1_Debian12_Klipper_kernel6.6_20241219.img and selected "other os" in ras pi imager..

odd dew
#

Tried raspberry pi imagery and balena etcher both, redownloaded the file..

odd dew
#

i think they sent me a faulty sd card..

odd dew
#

well it looks like it didnt flash properly because it make a 5gb partition and a 9 gig empty unallocated space instead of a "boot" partition. gonna try balena instead.

low crescent
odd dew
# low crescent No, I think first boot will re-size. 
Click on "WRITE" and accept that all previous data on the SD card will be deleted.
If the imager didn't already eject the SD-Card, eject it, pull it out from your Computer and plug it back in.
The Card will now show up as "BOOT".
Open the system.cfg file.
#

it never showed up a drive I could use.

#

oh what the fffff

low crescent
odd dew
#

used balena this time instead, told me there was a "problem with boot" and it told me i had to format it

low crescent
#

That was likely because it did not like the ext4 and or connect or disconnect with windows.

odd dew
#

Well how am I supposed to set the wifi information...I was able to do this prreviously for a different printer

low crescent
#

Wired ethernet heh

#

Or a keyboard.

odd dew
#

its in the other room

#

lmao

#

i only have short ethernet cables

low crescent
#

Pi flasher does not work for no images.

odd dew
#

and the printer doesnt have an SFP port sadly

low crescent
odd dew
#

dont have any :/

#

sadge

#

guess i might have to hook up the screen early.

#

I am terrifed to turn this thing on lmao

#

@sweet jasper yo

sweet jasper
#

@lofty oasis did it

sweet jasper
odd dew
#

I took a whole ass video but it's too spicy for discord 🙄 why do I pay for nitro

#

I have the power to the SSR unhooked from the distribution board

sweet jasper
#

Looks pretty good. I hate that these two wires look similar

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odd dew
#

Wdym?

lofty oasis
sweet jasper
# odd dew Wdym?

Just that the colors look similar at a casual glance. If you want cream of the crop review, post in #voron_electronics and ask them for a sanity check

odd dew
#

from my lookovers, + is connected to + and - is connected to -...

sweet jasper
#

I would be cool with plugging it in. Just be ready to reverse that decision.

#

At some point, you have to have faith in yourself.

lofty oasis
odd dew
#

I should see something on the screen right? Lmao

ashen agate
#

(the 2 sd cards)

odd dew
#

I put the is on the SD and plugged it in

#

Os*

ashen agate
#

you didn't flash the boards sd card then yet?

odd dew
#

Is that the 128 gig one..?

ashen agate
#

the 128mb one? yeah

odd dew
#

I kinda need to get the os working before I can flash this one tho

#

Which needs to be built on the os

ashen agate
#

you do both the board SD card and the OS sd card at your personal computer though...

odd dew
#

I thought you boot the machine...USE the machine to flash the 128mb card..

#

Oof

#

Okkkk

ashen agate
#

you still need to flash klipper on the board after that.

#

and then flash klipper on the toolhead board

odd dew
#

didnt realize i had to flash the 128 on my pc

ashen agate
#

but also katapult (before klipper) on both of them

#

(or whatever its currently called)

odd dew
#

Which guide is this in..?

#

im looking at the bttwiki guide and the formbot 2.4 r2 guide, neither of them mention this

ashen agate
#

eeeeuuuuuuhhhhh.... guides....uhhh... its a little broken up i'll post what i got here.

odd dew
#

let me see if its on page 958 of the voron manual

#

nope

#

not one mention of firmware in the voron manual

ashen agate
#

wait.... is the SD card on the m8p the sd card that holds the klipper/katapult flash??....

odd dew
#

i literally have no idea

ashen agate
#

that was for the other observers

odd dew
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x-eafpESLc&t=1297s this guy downloaded the file straight from armbian instead of the one from github like i was directed to

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ashen agate
#

download this PDF

odd dew
#

mhm

#

their file is called raspios-bullseye, but the latest file is for debian 12 for the cb1.

ashen agate
#

you just open the SD card on windows?

odd dew
#

ur supposed to be able to.

#

i cant

ashen agate
#

hmmm.... windows 11 or 10?

odd dew
#

11

ashen agate
#

normal

odd dew
#

oh sure..THIS time it opens...

ashen agate
#

let me see win+E

odd dew
#

it was telling me to f ormat it before

#

progress boys

#

the manta has 2 sd card slots, i assume i plug it into the top one under the cb1

ashen agate
#

i think the one for the CB1 is under the cb1, lemmie check.

odd dew
#

i dont think either slot is mentioned in the manual

ashen agate
#

its listed just not marked in the diagram

odd dew
#

im watching my wifi leases trying to see if it pops up..

#

nothing yet :/

ashen agate
#

you set the wifi password and stuff?

odd dew
#

yup

ashen agate
#

did you plug in the wifi antenna?

odd dew
#

uhhhhhhhhhhh

#

.....no..

ashen agate
#

ah

#

the small SD card goes on the end

#

the RPI sd card goes on the side

#

the only reason i probably figured this out the first time, is because i broke my m8p mounting bracket.

odd dew
#

wait

#

i interpret end and side as the same here

ashen agate
#

the small one is the MCU one, on the silkscreen.

low crescent
#

CARD is for the CB1

ashen agate
#

the Rpi one is the one that says card

low crescent
#

MCU-CARD is for flashing

#

But I'd use esotericals guide

cloud emberBOT
odd dew
#

Right or wrong

#

This has the CB1

ashen agate
#

looks right to me

odd dew
#

Ok

ashen agate
#

was it in the wrong one before?

odd dew
#

i should have set a hostname

#

no it was in this one

ashen agate
#

ah.

odd dew
#

but no antenna

ashen agate
#

if you have an ethernet cord, thats also an option

odd dew
#

it will eventually, but its in the other room and i dont have one long enough

#

we arent even to canbus yet

ashen agate
#

i would try to find the tiny string antenna that should have come with the cb1

odd dew
#

this is confusing lmao theres like 2 sd cards, but 3 boards need to be flashed..

#

I plugged it in

#

I think I found the ip for it but ssh is refusing my connection lmao

#

grrrr

ashen agate
#

keep in mind that, i think the CB1 will only connect to 2.4ghz wifi, not 5ghz, unless it has a dual wifi mode

odd dew
#

what a pita

#

I told it to connect to 2.4

ashen agate
#

kk

odd dew
#

do I really gotta enable root ssh on the sd before plugging it in

ashen agate
#

you used the RPI image from the git right?

odd dew
ashen agate
#

its not taking username: biqu password: biqu
?

odd dew
#

its not even asking for a password

#

i guess its possible this isnt even it..

#

but..lmao

ashen agate
#

try uhh

#

oh... hmm...

odd dew
#

if only i had a long enough ethernet cable.

#

bruh

#

the wifi lines were commented out

#

im gonna lose my shit

# 
#-----------------------------------------#
check_interval=5        # Cycle to detect whether wifi is connected, time 5s

eth=end0        # Ethernet card device number
wlan=wlan0      # Wireless NIC device number

hostname="BIGTREETECH-CB1"

###########################################
# System time zone setting, default Time zone: Etc/UTC (UTC, +0000)
# More settable time zones can be viewed by running the command: timedatectl list-timezones 
#TimeZone="Asia/Shanghai"

###########################################
## klipperScreen Target Screen
## ks_src: "HDMI-1", "TFT35"
#ks_src="HDMI-1"

## ks_angle: Rotation angle
##       normal: 0; inverted: 180;
##       left: 90; right: 270;
#ks_angle="normal"

###########################################
## wifi name
WIFI_SSID="Virus.exe"
## wifi password
WIFI_PASSWD="NkYwAbLHjp3yW&"

###########################################
# BTT-PAD7 (ON/OFF)
BTT_PAD7="OFF"
# touch vibration effects
TOUCH_VIBRATION="OFF"
# touch sound effects
TOUCH_SOUND="OFF"
# Automatic brightness adjustment
AUTO_BRIGHTNESS="OFF"
###########################################
#

idc if u know my wifi creds, come find me lmao

low crescent
#

Do you see stuff on the LCD?

odd dew
#

nope, just a backlight

ashen agate
#

do you have the HDMI-5 or something

odd dew
#

it says btt hdmi 1.2

ashen agate
low crescent
#

Which port is it plugged into?

odd dew
#

hdmi 1

#

I don't get anything on HDMI 0 either.

ashen agate
#

probably need to tweak the config file to get it to recognize the screen

low crescent
#

Did you power cycle after moving?

odd dew
ashen agate
odd dew
#

do i need to like...hold anything while its booting..??

ashen agate
#

no

odd dew
#

is the wifi antenna extremely short range or something?

#

can i use a wifi dongle?

#

I would expect something to be showing up on the screen

low crescent
ashen agate
#

do me a favor and run angryip so that we know we know we have the right IP

odd dew
#

ngl, i dont think its connecting. period.

#

its not getting a lease, its hostname is set to hostname="BIGTREETECH-CB1" and i dont have a device called that connected

ashen agate
low crescent
#

PI OS would not be used for CB1.

odd dew
#

yeah its not connecting to my wifi

#

i have a shittastic wifi dongle i could try maybe

ashen agate
#

seems like some people have issues connecting via wifi for the first time

#

personally, i also used an ethernet cable during setup

odd dew
#

ugh

#

i would love to

low crescent
#

Move the printer?

odd dew
#

The Dr that repaired my hernia yesterday would say no

low crescent
#

Fair enouh.

odd dew
#

there is a green flashing light next to the cb1..

south plume
odd dew
#

yes

#

its attached

south plume
odd dew
#

i do have a usb wifi dongle i could try..

south plume
#

And there's no output to the display?

odd dew
#

no display output.

#

just a backlight

ashen agate
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fair. can you show the Dip switches near the cb1?

south plume
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Likely the pi isn't booting, try pressing down on the top left corner of the cb1

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The corner towards the middle of the board

odd dew
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Uhhhh

south plume
odd dew
odd dew
south plume
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Likely covered with orange

odd dew
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This green light keeps flashing

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south plume
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I think that's the one that means the pi is alive

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Not sure why it wouldn't show on the display though...

odd dew
ashen agate
odd dew
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Do I need to hold the boot buttons at all?

south plume
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Should be good for now, you might have to change one for can

south plume
odd dew
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Oh

south plume
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I believe at least

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I guess there's two

odd dew
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What's this switch?

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Should I try the USB wifi dongle?

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I'd have to change a setting in the file right?

south plume
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Do you have a computer next to the printer?

odd dew
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I'm gonna re flash

odd dew
south plume
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Can you just run Ethernet to the computer

odd dew
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Yes

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Let me try a reflash first

south plume
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I guess try that and see what happens

south plume
odd dew
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ok

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Mother ffffff

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i wonder if my sd card is bad.

ashen agate
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is your wifi name really virus.exe ?

odd dew
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yes

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for my 2.4

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my 5ghz is called virus.msi

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2.4 is my IOT network also, sergregated vlan

ashen agate
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was checking to see if periods in the wifi ssid need to be escaped. they dont.

odd dew
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im getting the same error on a completely different computer so either the iso is fked or my sd card is.

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or...the reader i guess?

ashen agate
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its certainly possible that the sd card is bad

odd dew
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of course i dont have another one

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if i were to get a new one from best buy tomorrow... is there any specific kind i need?

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A 32 gig micro SD is $42 rn??

south plume
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Production is being moved to ram from storage iirc

odd dew
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It's just worstbuy pricing, Amazon is still fine

south plume
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Nevermind then

south plume
odd dew
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To my laptop? No

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Not sure what u want me to do there

south plume
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Or the lite iso

south plume
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I think

odd dew
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For ssh? Or..

south plume
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For ssh

odd dew
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What would I even use for an IP.

ashen agate
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i would try a sandisk or samsung 32gb from bestbuy.

but yes, he wants you to try to log into the pi directly from PC to pi with ssh.

odd dew
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Ssh requires a hostname/ip to connect to though

ashen agate
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might be able to find the ip with angryip

odd dew
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Hmm..

south plume
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Just in the Ethernet settings

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I haven't done it before but you should be able to connect

ashen agate
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ah. i found the setup guide i used

odd dew
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Not a fuckin thing.

ashen agate
odd dew
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Didn't think this would be the hard part.

ashen agate
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there's always something

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i think you need to uncomment ks_src, and ks_angle

odd dew
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i did

ashen agate
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ah.

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i didn't see it uncommented in the old image. fair enough.

south plume
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Minimal. Whatever it's called

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The one that doesn't have whatever crap btt decided was needed

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Honestly at this point I'd recommend adding a cm4 or pi4 to your Amazon order

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In my experience the cb1 sucked

odd dew
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Well that image actually successfully flashed with pi imager but still no image on screen

ashen agate
south plume
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I just grabbed the minimal one from btt's GitHub, that version is probably cleaner though

odd dew
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i liked that like an hour ago

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if that works imma me pissed

south plume
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And the green light is still blinking right?

odd dew
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no, yes