Persistence- Voron 2.4 build

[jade urchin]

Official build log for my 2.4 350^3 as suggested. Back in 2022 I bought a formbot3d kit unaware that I also needed printed parts to assemble the printer, maybe just under a year later I picked up a full printed parts kit that contained both stuff for afterburner and stealth burner which led me to some confusion resulting in purchases of aftermarket parts. I have been through proper channels talked with lots of people but I’m no longer sure how close to my original parts kit I should stay. I was informed that some of my original stuff is hazardous (switch+power inlet and wiring harnesses) and went about correcting most of it the best I could so far. I am not sure how far away from the manual is acceptable. I have some goals for the printer but if they’re too far from the manual I can abandon them on the initial build: sensorless homing, umbilical instead of chains and preferably stealthburner or a4t over afterburner. I would like to use monolith panels and a printed top hat so I don’t lose on z height with umbilical but If any of these things prove to be too much of a change they can be abandoned. I should also note that everything is assembled/installed except for the following: toolhead, electrical work, software/firmware, cable chains, rest of the bed skirt and the panels

I’ll post a parts list in a bit

Also I’m in the U.S. so standard outlets here put out ~120v at 60Hz

[jade urchin]

Parts:
Og-
• Formbot 3d 2.4 kit for afterburner
• Matterhackers 3d printed parts kit with both afterburner and stealthburner parts
• Octopus controller board
• Raspberry pi3
• Afterburner toolhead
• Redone wiring harnesses with wagos because the original used spade mounts and linked a bunch of wires together weird
• 1 piece plug and switch combo
• 3 hole mount cable chains
• Hall effect endstops
• Some sort of toolhead probe (I was told it’s an older choice)
• Phateus dragon hf hotend

Aftermarket additions:
• Stealthburner full kit from fystec
• 1x 2510 delta fan
• Lgx lite pro extruder
• Dragon mze extender
• BTT sb2209 usb
• Crossbow cutter

I’ll be updating this list as needed

I was planning on picking up xol carriage pins and a beacon probe to complete the needed parts for a4t but I have been redirected to stealthburner instead

Current steps I have in mind are:

1. Assemble a toolhead
2. Finish wiring
   3.software setup
3. Panels
4. Tuning

I am taking a break before hopping into the first step to learn some leather working however

[winter onyx]

hey

welcome and good luck on the build!

[jade urchin]

Thank you thank you 🙏

[bold lance]

The best printer builds are like fine wine. They are best after sitting in a cellar for a few years and revisited from a different perspective. Gl with the build!

[jade urchin]

Thanks, I hope that’s true lmao

[jade urchin]

Currently committing a sin and assembling a4t first, I’ve learned that regardless of which toolhead I choose I need to learn entirely what they’re doing in order to properly install and utilize them so why not just learn the one I intend to install later anyways

If I can’t get it figured out I’ll simply buy one more 4010 fan for stealthburner and use that

List of changes from my stock kit so far:
•redone wiring harnesses for primary wires
• swap to a4t with lgx lite pro, beacon probe, phateus dragon bf with mze, and sb2209 toolhead board (ik it’s cursed)
• umbilical
• top hat
•monolith panels
• xol carriage

All should be pretty basic swaps with no fundamental changes besides the toolhead

[jade urchin]

@wispy trench

[wispy trench]

Word

Mono carriage?

Get the vitalii cnc sb/xol one

for voron belt path anyway

for a4t

But i'll do a nice umbilical

[jade urchin]

I was using the printed xol carriage

Is it bad?

[wispy trench]

Printed xol is ok to start with

Absolutely

Dwtas the a4t/xol guy is brilliant

[jade urchin]

I’ll just wait to mount until I get the cnc one

[wispy trench]

Fair

What size v2

If you say 350 ima be so happy

[jade urchin]

I still have the stock carriage mounted

350^3

[wispy trench]

Cos i can use mine to make a perfect size

🎉

Where you wanna mount the cord?

On the gantry or exhaust

[jade urchin]

I honestly don’t know

[wispy trench]

Either is fine

[jade urchin]

What do you prefer?

[wispy trench]

Gantry means you gotta tuck it into the Z

Its harder

[jade urchin]

Then exhaust for sure

[wispy trench]

Makes the Z umbilical a bitch

Exhaust is easy, clean

And i can give you pg7 mounts for it

[jade urchin]

I’ll mostly be printing abs/asa so I doubt I’ll ever use the exhaust anyways

[wispy trench]

Ill mount pg7s at the perfect intervals

And ill crimp your cord, but not socket the microfit

So you can lock pg7 into the exhaust and make a literal perfection cord

[jade urchin]

What’s socket mean

Like plug it in?

[wispy trench]

These clamp between printed parts

And only allow the cord to exist in X amount in the chamber

And theyll last forever

[jade urchin]

Ahhh

[wispy trench]

So itll be a perfectly rigid, perfect length cord

[jade urchin]

Do you have the same setup on yours?

[wispy trench]

I do, but sorta diff rn

I use a clear panel with a hole

But strain relief on the hole yeah

I drilled into it

[jade urchin]

Aight if you get the chance could you take a pic so I have a reference point? I’m sure I could prob search stuff up for it too

[wispy trench]

Ive tested this coating, it doesnt kill boards etc in chamber

[wispy trench]

I haven’t ordered pg7 before

So dont judge printed parts

[jade urchin]

You’re all good lmao

My printer is literally a empty block with parts in bins

[wispy trench]

Umbilical goes up-> out sith a printed pg7 spring pk top

Two printed pug springs on Z

Im also doing hartk Z lol

This is why i got 4-6x umbilical supplies, sell a few for fun

[jade urchin]

I finally understand the wires holding your umbilical

[wispy trench]

Those are for extra rigid

Its not ideal, and i dont need em, but i move fast as heck

[jade urchin]

Its smart to me

[wispy trench]

And it keeps the whole thing from developing a weird counter sway

[jade urchin]

Makes sense

[wispy trench]

But my cord before when i did 2wd was perfect

Lemmie find it, i had literally perfect graphs

My simplest, best performing is graph config yet

But urgh split Z umbilical pain

Just drilled a hole next to the ptfe lmao

Less headache

[jade urchin]

That was the umbilical setup I was gonna try to replicate

Wait if I do the exhaust version do I still lose z height?

[wispy trench]

Nope 🙂

exhaust is full Z, and best IS of the 2

its easiest to maintain etc

[jade urchin]

Very nice guess I don’t even have to do top hat anymore then

[wispy trench]

for just umbilical?

nah def not

[jade urchin]

I was gonna

[wispy trench]

Oh no

i got you

let me do your toolhead umbilical fully

black on black

buy red zip ties for accent 😉

[jade urchin]

Top hat doesn’t seem all that bad idk why people avoid it so heavily

[wispy trench]

heat

[jade urchin]

Ahhhh

[wispy trench]

tall=more soak by a lottttt

[jade urchin]

I wondered if that was an issue

[wispy trench]

every 100m is tons of heat

[jade urchin]

Makes total sense now

[wispy trench]

so you gotta build preheat by X factor

like 30-40m per X

[jade urchin]

What bed heater do you use? I’ve heard different talk about different ones

[wispy trench]

I love doing specifically umbilicals

[wispy trench]

the stock ldo

it works ok

[jade urchin]

I think mine is like a 115c cap

[wispy trench]

you have a 120c thermal fuse

that's my issue rn too

[jade urchin]

Wait I might have it wrong hold up

[wispy trench]

im sourcing a 1kw bed rn

all kits usually 120c thermal fuses

[jade urchin]

110v 650w

[wispy trench]

I wanna buy a 10mm alu 1000w 150c fused bed myself soon

mines 750

im going up to a new SSR/1000w

[jade urchin]

That may be something I chase in the future

So long as I can print abs I should be good for now

[wispy trench]

yeah

Im only doing so for my "final touches"

this v2 is close, so im doing pc panels, big bed that can run theae 5015 bed fans

pump le chamber up

i have a toolhead that can nyoom/motion

so just doing the bed and a new v2 soon

[jade urchin]

I love my p1s because it just works but I think my goal is to sell/give it to my dad and grab a monolith printer a while after it drops so I’ll have the Voron and the monolith

[wispy trench]

word

my v2 works nice now'

and its so fast omg'

[jade urchin]

Yeah I’ll be excited once mine works

[wispy trench]

Good wiring in the chamber is half the battle

[jade urchin]

It upsets me alot because I’ve spent soo much time and cash and it’s still not working but I refuse to give up on it

[wispy trench]

so knowing your toolhead wire works will be ez

I'll personally test on my EBB with my board 🙂

[jade urchin]

I get close to selling it sometimes but I don’t think I’ll truly get to that point

[wispy trench]

just get good JST XH/PH crimps

so you can re-do the fans to ebb32 connector etc

[jade urchin]

I plan to try my best

[wispy trench]

you do 2 blowers and a part fan, and you're done

what sensor you going with

[jade urchin]

So far I’ve really enjoyed routing wires for some reason

[wispy trench]

🤔

[jade urchin]

Oh beacon

[wispy trench]

Oh word

[jade urchin]

Idk which one or what they do differently

[wispy trench]

Do you, want a cable for it to the ebb36?

[jade urchin]

Yes please?

The part I’m most scared of right now tbh is re crimping all my wires

I have the tools and connectors I just don’t want to mess anything up

[wispy trench]

I like crimping wires

lol

[jade urchin]

Same I’ve just never done this style so I’m building it up too much in my head

[wispy trench]

crimping. zip tying

its just go slow

this is a4t and nh36

[jade urchin]

I have your a4t pics saved lmao

[wispy trench]

its not hard, theres zip tie spots

[jade urchin]

They are my example pics

[wispy trench]

thanks 😄

What crimper do you use?

or buying new?

[jade urchin]

I bought one for them let me find it

[wispy trench]

once you set the "crimp" into the slide and squeeze

it's basically like gripping wires w/ pliers

you'll quickly get the hang of it, i promise

the hardest part is identifying guage, and knowing what crimp "size" to do on a tool

[wispy trench]

worst case: strip and redo

Perfect

Once you do 2-3 it'll be easy

It's once of those things where it's like...eeee cut my wires

but, twist the wires before they go into the crimps lightly: prevents fraying on entry

rock it

crimping is the most intimidating, easiest thing ever

[jade urchin]

I re did my mains harness

[wispy trench]

🎉

no sparks?

[wispy trench]

Nice

[jade urchin]

No tests yet with a plug lol

[wispy trench]

How do you want the ebb32: USB?

[jade urchin]

I did try my multi meter though

[wispy trench]

I assume?

[jade urchin]

Yuh

[wispy trench]

if so you're in luck

[jade urchin]

I heard it reduces the amount of wires a lot

[wispy trench]

I have pre-done wires for the breakout board

btt doesnt do them lmfao

[jade urchin]

And I think beacon only uses usb?

[wispy trench]

fin lazies btt ios

[jade urchin]

I saw in my kit 🥲

For sb2209

[wispy trench]

I can either make you a passthrough USB cord, or incoude it into the harness

you can do both

one is easy, one is easy too

[jade urchin]

What’s the pass through mean

[wispy trench]

it's a small cord i'd make to the beacon from the toolhead board

and then no beacon USB cord

I have the crimps here for it

[jade urchin]

Hmm

[wispy trench]

its what ive always done

[jade urchin]

Otherwise the beacon usb just goes in the umbilical right?

[wispy trench]

yeah but its lumpier

and larger

[jade urchin]

That’s enough for me lmao I’ll do that then

[wispy trench]

no big deal

and its a USB slot

but this stays a small cord on the toolhead

Its just a jst to molex shelock 4 pin

Probably gonna use thinner wires so its nice and compact

And ill maybe braid it

I like doing carto/beacon wires

If you waited i have igus chainflex coming for folks who absolutely want beacon usb, to make my own usb cords

So i can make non lumpy umbilical with good wires

[jade urchin]

West3d is sold out of the 6mm carriages too 😭

[wispy trench]

And usb beacon hehe

[wispy trench]

Check his website directly

But i prefer pass through

Its easy, the wire stays confined to the zip ties on a4t

[jade urchin]

I’ll try pass through

[wispy trench]

Heres the breakout board

I coated it for fun but im not using mine

Im using carto v4 and CAN

🤷‍♂️

I have a harness made for power for you already

[jade urchin]

What does a breakout board do? I understand can and usb now and the toolhead board but idk why the separate board exists

[wispy trench]

Btt ships the bare wires lol

[wispy trench]

It allows you to plug and play this

No can config

Quick, easy

[jade urchin]

Ah nice

[wispy trench]

And like i said, ill so your psu wire crimps

So you can plug it directly into your screw terminals etc

It feeds on 24v

[jade urchin]

Thanks a lot dude this actually helps a ton

[wispy trench]

Btt includes this lol

[jade urchin]

The toolhead has been the single biggest stopping point for me so far and the boards more specifically

BTT gave me the parts but knowing what to do with them is a whole different story lmao

[wispy trench]

I prefer this.

[jade urchin]

I feel like I’m starting to finally understand this portion of the build, I’m excited to get it done and get back to the wiring underneath

[wispy trench]

absolutely

this is my breakout wire 🙂

24v input for you

[jade urchin]

Labeling is nice

[wispy trench]

bit nicer than BTTs, screw terminal crimps for PSU and breakout ferrules

it'll fit perfectly on the breakout/psu

[jade urchin]

About to get my last led part printed so I can continue assembling the a4t

[wispy trench]

This is how itll come, and itll go usb included->pi

And harness to toolhead-> this board

Ill even pack them together in modules so its easy

I have a wealth of LDO cords that are the exact pins we need, and are better for umbilical too 🙂

btts is ok, but LDOS is a stiffer insulation and nicer

and i can de-pin the LDO w/o cutting it 😛

[jade urchin]

The board in the pics is the breakout one right

[wispy trench]

yep

this is likely yours tbh

[jade urchin]

And it mounts underneath the printer in the electronics bay?

[wispy trench]

i wont use it. and this is the cords

yep, theres a printable din mount mount

[jade urchin]

This all I need?

[wispy trench]

ebb36 v2 repo

100

that's perfect for a4t

you'll get 7mm spacers iirc

which are what i use

this is a breakout wire, not one i made

but i'll make a FEP coated braided wire

[jade urchin]

If I order beacon I’ll have this total:

Lgx lite pro
2x 4010 fans
1x 2510 fan
A4t printed parts
Neopixel led
Phateus dragon hf
Mze
The usb setup you’re putting together
Umbilical you’re putting together
Beacon probe

[wispy trench]

you want a neopixel?

i literally have 1000

[jade urchin]

I think that should be the entire a4t and everything I need to mount it

I got one

[wispy trench]

i ordered 1000 on ali

oh ok lol

I always toss a few in with printed parts i do lol

for new kit folks changing so they dont butcher SB harnesses

You said 5v hef and 24v part fans btw?

I'll set your jumpers for you

not that you cant change them

but just so you dont have to

[jade urchin]

Is this the fan voltage

[wispy trench]

yes

😄 im just stoked i get to use my "automotive grade electrical looming tape"

105c, gets sticker in a chamber over time vs less

aka it wont unroll

it'll be an under a cover component you wont see/feel

What i do, Is form a TI clip, tape it into the tape itself, melt it in, and wrap that clip around with tape

and then the TI i wrap in a spiral around your cord

then i fold it at the place for a pg7

tape it again

spiral the entire cord in high temp tape

[jade urchin]

24v dc fystec 4010
24v dc sunon 4010
5v dc delta 2510

[wispy trench]

and wrap that in PET sleeve

then i shrink wrap it all

put your PG7s on the cord, wrap it lightly in a box to prevent the spring from being damaged inside

and it'll be crimped, ready to go on arrival

just have the printed "pg7" screw in exhaust

and if you want, a pg7 skirt inlet in the back

[jade urchin]

You lost me but from the details in your description I can’t imagine anything but quality work

[wispy trench]

It's basically an internal spring

that cannot move/damage the cord

and is naice

[jade urchin]

Oh nice

[wispy trench]

and it'll be hidden and pretty in a snakeskin PET style sleeve

my favorite

I even ditched my experimental woven heat shrink

it was okay

im back to using heat shrink heat shrink

It's fun to do cords, and length is EZ i have a 350

so your toolhead length to back panel....is mine

so the wire length will be easy to determine lol

this tape ig insulates the wires thermally

I'm so stoked to try it

[jade urchin]

@wispy trench is there supposed to be a small gap between the fan and cowl?

[wispy trench]

I dont believe so

[jade urchin]

Once I positioned the fan properly it slotted in nicely but Idk if it’s supposed to go in further and I’ve just got a wire stopping it

[wispy trench]

push the fan corners in further if so

or your cowl may have lightly warped

[jade urchin]

🥲

I’m gonna try on my empty cowl

Ok no gap on my empty cowl when I press it in so I gotta fix my LED wires

@wispy trench I will pay you to print a a4t cowl and install the LEDs in it if that’s something you’re willing to do

[wispy trench]

ight

I'll just print one for you

i dont care lol

[jade urchin]

Got any natural abs?

[wispy trench]

take me 45m

White?

like natural/white?

[jade urchin]

Nah like bone colored

Yuh

Offwhite natural

[wispy trench]

i have this, yes

[jade urchin]

Could I get it in that please

[wispy trench]

this color?

because yes

[jade urchin]

Yes please

[wispy trench]

It will be bright as sin with LEDs btw

this shines through

[jade urchin]

I have a dragon hf with mze

[wispy trench]

not in a bad way

but it will color it

[jade urchin]

We’ll do it

Haunted a4t

[wispy trench]

This is one logo LED in the same ABS lol

same ABS as the cowl lol

so its a bright color for a cowl

[jade urchin]

It looks like it’s charging a plasma blast lmao

[wispy trench]

Yep

and with nozzle LEDs its even cooler lol

[jade urchin]

Yeah I like that funny enough

[wispy trench]

It's cool actually.

I liked it when i ran out of black

I have an idea that's fun

what if i do the logo in shiny shiny black, non matte

so only behind it glows

[jade urchin]

All I’ve got is black abs atm I gotta order in some natural, what brand do you have

[wispy trench]

sunlu

[jade urchin]

I’m down to try that

[wispy trench]

ill send both

its like 3g of black

[jade urchin]

True lmao

[wispy trench]

you can try both, see what sticks

itll just be black sunlu also

[jade urchin]

I gotta order some sunlu natural 😛

[wispy trench]

youre doing black and red?

I have...red sunlu lokl

Red LGX spacer?

and toolhead board mount?

[jade urchin]

I have black and red but I want to start doing natural for monolith panels and the toolhead

[wispy trench]

Ahh fair

[jade urchin]

I’m buying the vitalli one

[wispy trench]

Ahhh

[jade urchin]

I kinda wanna give it a bone look with the red muscle/flesh

[wispy trench]

I can do any color pof a4t combo

and mmu faces

lol

a5t mmu face

thats easy stuff

a4t i can do red hexs on natural abs

up to you

[jade urchin]

I kinda like the solid a4t looks

[wispy trench]

fair enough

[jade urchin]

One of my favorites was this like military tan a4t

[wispy trench]

I'll include a nice red lgx spacer for you

[jade urchin]

But I’m not doing a brown build lol

[wispy trench]

you can reprint anything nicely later

if you like/see a better version yknow

nbd

I have capricorn tubing for the hotend ill include a slice of

[jade urchin]

I think anything you print off will be better than mine lol

I was thinking about buying some when you were asking about it

[wispy trench]

lol

I'm thinking of just doing this as a hobby on etsy

"pre toughened ebb36 and full a4t"

fans, everything ready for carriage and go

[jade urchin]

Past me would’ve made love to you

[jade urchin]

I realized I missed a fully assembled a4t a while ago

[wispy trench]

Printing sparkly ebb36 mounts

Beta design for me 🙂

[jade urchin]

Is sparkly abs any harder to print from?

[wispy trench]

And a fan guard for a5t

[wispy trench]

Not fusion so far

[jade urchin]

Also I heard it’s more abrasive

[wispy trench]

I use a tungsten carbide v6

And wwg2 is hardened gear

[jade urchin]

Problem solved

[wispy trench]

So i can do any cf i want any time

And frequently use cf-gf-sparkle

[jade urchin]

I should probably get a tungsten nozzle at some point

[wispy trench]

I have some pretty abrasive filaments

Its fun

[jade urchin]

What do you typically use carbon fiber for?

[wispy trench]

Visual appeal

Its so pretty for cosmetic peints

My skirts are cf

[jade urchin]

I saw a grey one that looked pretty nice

[wispy trench]

Cf anthead

It’s fuzzy looking

And feels rough

Its very very pretty

[jade urchin]

I think someone made a workout tool out of some as a prototype and left it at my climbing gym

[wispy trench]

Cf also

Black/navy

I very, very much like cf

[jade urchin]

How many printers do you have?

[wispy trench]

Two bambus rn, and a voron

And im getting another of each

[jade urchin]

Nice

[wispy trench]

I have a dead qidi i tossed a bit ago

[jade urchin]

Gonna have a farm

[wispy trench]

fun farm 🙂

toys for kiddo, for me

parts for friends, etc

I like iamus, i printed his switchwire parts

[jade urchin]

I think giving your kids access is awesome

[wispy trench]

etc

He's very cool

[jade urchin]

Especially if they can learn cad

[wispy trench]

He'll ask for X toy and we select the model

and slice together

he's almost 5

[jade urchin]

I would’ve killed for that kind of freedom when I was younger

[wispy trench]

He has an a1 mini in my office

And his own ipad to slice on

[jade urchin]

Like freedom of creativity

I always wanted to make all sorts of stuff but just didn’t have the tools

[wispy trench]

He slices on this, made this stand

Hes a smart kid and has my whole heart

I monitor his slicing obv because he cant fully read at 4

[jade urchin]

Goldfish tray is essential

[wispy trench]

100%

Hes a good egg

Im a lawyer so im gabby, i narrated my v2 and omg hes smart

“Daddy thats the z belt and axis”

He wants to do a v0 and 2 lane bt kit at 5-6

Aka i do he uses and enjoys

i said hell yeah

Blame ldo

[jade urchin]

Building a Voron at 6 is insane

[wispy trench]

Cute stickers

🤷‍♂️ its just us two

I share in his hobbies and he likes to share mine

we do lottttta toys

[jade urchin]

It’s gonna sound corny but I’m glad there’s parents like you showing and supporting their kids creativity and teaching them skills in a fun way

[wispy trench]

I love my kid to death

[jade urchin]

My dad always helped me build things and stuff and it’s become a core part of me

[wispy trench]

so even my hobbies are making fun toys for him

My family isnt close

so it's me and my guy, im divorced

we do a ton together

[jade urchin]

I’m glad you’ve got him then

[wispy trench]

I dont want to have nobody, so I make sure he's a central part of my life

and it works out great

me too

[jade urchin]

Totally understandable and really a good thing for him too

[wispy trench]

Absolutely

I talk to him like an adult

i cant do baby talk, never have been able to

so from day one it was "hey man, why are you upset"

lets figure it out then

[jade urchin]

I respect that

[wispy trench]

kids seem to like being treated as an equal in that ig

like, the rules are so we all are safe and stuff lol

they apply to me too, i too cant run with a knife

because it's stupid lol

[jade urchin]

Are we gonna get smited for conversing in the wrong channel

[wispy trench]

nah

this is your channel

[jade urchin]

Ok cool lmao

True true

[wispy trench]

and we're having a rule following wholesome convo tbh

but yeah, idk. my house is weirds

my 4yo puts me in timeout when im upset

and i do it

🤷‍♂️

[jade urchin]

Not really, it makes sense, stays fun and is functional

[wispy trench]

if it goes one way

idk why not

Upper middle class america is not a stressful place

money makes you laid back

in my early 20s i was a cop and not cool

[jade urchin]

Hmm, is there anything I can do to help support a possible v0 father son build?

[wispy trench]

keep on keeping on

idk

PIF

youll know when

"my only cowl broke oh no"

youll see someone who needs it

[jade urchin]

True true

[wispy trench]

I do ok now

2 years ago, i was...not ok

I work as a lawyer in prison

so rough gig

[jade urchin]

I honestly don’t mind shipping out extra parts of mine to people in need

[wispy trench]

I had a work related leg injury

workers comp is not a lot

[jade urchin]

Oh yikes

[wispy trench]

and i was suing the state

out of work

divorcing

just....weird

[jade urchin]

Miserable combo

[wispy trench]

i had a vendor reach out a send me a free tc nozzle

still use it

i quietly paid him back when i got back, got my settement and was working

3dp during my recovery allowed me to still play toys with my then 3yo without buying them cos broke

and that nozzle meant a lot to me.

it was literally "my ability to make my 3yo smile"

so i do what i can to help now

[jade urchin]

That makes sense why you spend so much time working on them

[wispy trench]

anyone, regardless of situation

[jade urchin]

I feel like that’s the way to go tbh

[wispy trench]

3dp can be transformative in the right situation

So i like to do what little i can for friends etc

[jade urchin]

Like no matter what position you’re in you can still be in a moment of need

[wispy trench]

i got suzuki a v0 lol

you will be

Life is cyclical

you always go back down/have to ask for help

thats why you gotta do good when you're up

[jade urchin]

I was happy to send my g2e Suzukis way just because I had hope that he’d get use out of it tbh

[wispy trench]

Tip your bartender while the house is down

[wispy trench]

Ohhh you did that

see, its cyclical

you helped, youre getting help

life is that way

[jade urchin]

Yuh yuh he just payed shipping

[wispy trench]

the universe literally work that way

if you think it, it will be

[jade urchin]

Got essentially 2 g2es

[wispy trench]

If you tell yourself "ill have X"

[jade urchin]

It was cool seeing the build

[wispy trench]

you might find, you do eventually

Like, in the freakiest way

Did you hear about sigmund frued?

he read about that, and literally had a textbook example happen

early in his career he had a patient talk about some bird in their dream

[jade urchin]

Man I’m excited to get the beast running

[wispy trench]

and he walked to the window, and it landed right there

so

i mean, coincidence? maybe

but

spread what you want out there

I love getting a 3dp running

[jade urchin]

Happy new year

[wispy trench]

happy new year

but yeah, im heading to bed 😛

ill post the EBB when it comes

should be fun, mines getting installed soon

[jade urchin]

Take your time, thanks again and no rush. Have a good night 🌙

[jade urchin]

Vitalli mounts ordered, 6mm xol carriage in silver and lgx lite pro ebb 36 mount also in silver

[wispy trench]

sick, ebb32 coming 🙂

[jade urchin]

What’s the difference between 32 and 36?

And they mount the same right?

Ok I’m even more confused lmao I see 36 and 42

I know you’re getting me the part I need regardless so I’m not worried just curious

[wispy trench]

Oh 32 is a typo

36

[jade urchin]

You’re moving fast

[jade urchin]

@wispy trench should I buy beacon H or D

I’m leaning towards H

[jade urchin]

Going with cart4 as of now

[jade urchin]

Mze has arrived

[sleek depot]

Let me know how it works, i do have, thinking about schould i prind the uhf cowl or the hf one

Heard deferent things about it

[jade urchin]

For a4t as I’m aware only the uhf length works which is why the hf gets the extender

[jade urchin]

Vitalli parts in, cartographer 4 ordered

[wispy trench]

Parts should arrive tomorrow to finish your cord big fella 😉

Been waiting on my ti wire

[jade urchin]

Im super hyped

[jade urchin]

Cart4 has arrived

[jade urchin]

Projects been on hold but I’m thinking it’s about time to start rolling on things again, 1 spool of asa on the way

[jade urchin]

Should be able to start back up again on Friday when the spool in the color I wanted for the cowl comes in

Hoping I don’t have any weird issues swapping from abs to Asa or creality to sunlu

[jade urchin]

Asa arrived along with a fresh led, should have the cowl done in a couple hours

[jade urchin]

Broke the led resistors gotta learn micro soldering now

[jade urchin]

Led plates ordered along with some pg7 mounts and nh36 with umbilical cord

[jade urchin]

Parts are in, gotta work on soldering LEDs next

[jade urchin]

I’m ditching the LEDs

Learned I had axial 4010s not blowers so I’m waiting on those to ship in now 🫩

[jade urchin]

But, I also have a new on off switch and power input port with fuses coming in as I was made aware my original one is potentially dangerous

[jade urchin]

Parts have arrived

@quiet flower oh great creator bestow upon me your wisdom as I am but a needy soul, what does this metal part do and is it supposed to be loose? I can’t find anything indicating what it is or what it does

[quiet flower]

I mean, a simple hello would do 🙂

that part should be friction fit. In place so it doesn't slide forwards when printing. If it's a bit loose you could print the part with either a bit less shrinkage compensation, or a bit over extruded to tighten it up

I think some people have put a bit of glue on it instead of reprinting. I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not

[jade urchin]

I’ll try the glue method as Im not exactly sure how to do the other stuff atm

Thank you very much 🙏

[quiet flower]

And before I forget, it's so that there's metal on either side of the blade where the cutting action pushes the filament sideways. The idea is to prevent wear

[jade urchin]

Thank you 🙏 that helps me to understand how to interact with things a lot. I kinda figured that was the purpose but couldn’t find anything to confirm

Two part epoxy time 😁

[jade urchin]

Gotta love the mess before the result

[jade urchin]

I’ve learned I printed the wrong cowl for my setup, technically it could still work if I mount the cowl and then attach the extruder with the crossbow adapter plate after but I think I’m just going to reprint and replicate an existing setup (whiskers a4t)

Both of us are using the vitalli3d slw carriage and in his setup he’s using a xol cowl and mounting the top bolts from the back into the square nuts in the cowl

[jade urchin]

One problem after another but alas the project is called persistence for a reason

[jade urchin]

Some progress, I never knew how crazy finicky and delicate building a printer would be

Have to wait on some more 4010s to ship due to the wire on that one breaking at the base. Then I gotta figure out how the cartographer v4 mounts and figure out all the connectors and plug everything in

Everyone please pray for me that I don’t break something in the process

[jade urchin]

Working on cleaning up the work space and getting the tools and parts reorganized, fans come in on the 16th and I’ll have some small gauge wire strippers coming in before then so I should be fully prepped for when the fans arrive to cut down the wires and add connectors to wrap up this toolhead that continues to spite me

In other words I’m excited but I’ll be treating the toolhead like a glass balloon

[jade urchin]

To all of you who are thinking of building a Voron that haven’t before, you will be buying a set of tools unless either you or someone you know is a electrician

Today was spent learning how to do jst xh crimps, I now have to wait until tomorrow to get the rest of the bits I ordered in order to actually make any progress

Furthermore a ferrule crimping tool is on the way

I should have everything I need (for now) by Monday to complete the toolhead

[jade urchin]

Tuesday now with shipping delays

[jade urchin]

Tools have arrived, just waiting on the fan

[jade urchin]

Learned how to properly crimp ferrules thanks to @rotund steeple so shoutout to him

Now it’s time to move onto the jst xh and ph pieces which I think I just dialed the tightness in for

[jade urchin]

Ugly but it works and helped me learn

Motor and heater complete now I just gotta do the fans, thermistor and probe

[jade urchin]

Couple more

Jumpers set besides the probe

Delta 2510 hef set to 5v
4010 PCfs set to 24v

All I can do for tonight, next steps are to install the last 4010 fan and probe, set up the connectors for those and set the jumper for the probe

Then I gotta print and attach the strain relief mount and attach the umbilical

Been a long battle but the toolhead is finally in the home stretch

[jade urchin]

Fan has arrived 🤩

[jade urchin]

Very glad I bought two in with one as an extra

[jade urchin]

Last fan installed

[jade urchin]

Gonna probably be a little bit before I can push things further, waiting to see if I’m gonna upgrade my gantry

[jade urchin]

@quiet flower CREATOR, I SELFISHLY STAND BEFORE YOU CRAVING YOUR KNOWLEDGE ONCE MORE, have you had any issues reported with the vitalli front idlers? I don’t want to lose any build space and was wondering if I could buy those instead of printing the BFI ones but I’m not 100% sure about collision

Whiskers said they’re fine but I’d like confirmation from one of the makers if possible, this is for a4t btw

[quiet flower]

No one has complained. But I don’t know what they even look like. If they’re narrow like BFI they will be fine

[jade urchin]

These are from his website

Oh man the bfi’s are really skinny

Hmm these ones seem to be almost the same actually

[quiet flower]

Looks like they will be fine

[jade urchin]

Sweet thanks 🙏

Excited to get this thing running

Front idlers purchased

Going to get back onto building this thing soon

[jade urchin]

Idlers are in 🤤

[rotund steeple]

Sticking with red/black color scheme?

[jade urchin]

NOPE

I wanted all silver but they were out so silver primary and black secondary

[jade urchin]

@rotund steeple do you know what these holes are for?

[jade urchin]

Already looking nicer

[rotund steeple]

Off the top, I believe those would be for the printable accent/aesthetic panel pieces.

https://tenor.com/view/raiders-nation-skull-swords-fire-football-gif-17315406

🤪

[jade urchin]

Ahhh that makes sense

[rotund steeple]

@jade urchin https://www.printables.com/model/1200036-printable-parts-for-cnc-front-idlers

[jade urchin]

Yup saw those but that explains the hole thanks 🙏

Phone camera doesn’t do it justice but it’s a lot prettier now

[rotund steeple]

@jade urchin consider this before you get too deep in:

https://mods.vorondesign.com/details/NiwnWQOao4t2dfoCpq9Q

Sorry, might have to backtrack a bit for easiest scenario, should have mentioned it sooner.

[jade urchin]

I saw that, not a fan of the amount of work that goes into it, maybe down the line

[jade urchin]

Belts are tensioned and gantry seems fine (deracked it in the past and nothing seems to have changed so I’ll get to the calibration print to see if I need to derack again)

Today’s goal is to get the toolhead hung

[jade urchin]

“Today’s goal” was not achieved, brain was not working well but soon hopefully

[jade urchin]

Toolhead mounted now I gotta install the probe and umbilical

[jade urchin]

Today we attempt again to make progress

[jade urchin]

I printed the umbilical exhaust mount and a pug 🫩

I learned my panels are too thin to use monolith panels which was my intent so now I may just make my own or go with the stock mounts

[jade urchin]

Now waiting on a cord to come in to plug my cart4 into my toolhead board

[jade urchin]

Probe mounted

Next will be umbilical and panels

[jade urchin]

I think today’s goal is going to be the umbilical

[jade urchin]

Losing build space with this one but we’re keeping it for now 😔

[jade urchin]

Panels today hopefully

This gotta be the longest running mostly stock Voron build

Thing has not ran once yet 💀

[unreal marsh]

@wispy trench @wispy trench

[jade urchin]

🧐

[molten ibex]

What are you doing with it

[jade urchin]

Watchu mean

[molten ibex]

How's it still not working 🤦

[jade urchin]

Ah just set back after setback

[molten ibex]

[jade urchin]

If I knew I had a full afterburner kit and stuck with that AND had all the parts and tools it would’ve gotten built a lot faster

But instead now I have a lgx lite pro a4t with umbilical and some redone wiring harnesses and a toolhead board 😭

And new idlers

Compounding effect

[molten ibex]

Just stop scope creeping

[jade urchin]

That’s the hope

I actually kinda scare myself with it because I sometimes start thinking about new frames or sidepack or different panels or other stuff 🥲

[molten ibex]

Next development: "ordered cnc gantry"

[jade urchin]

But I think I’m happy with my current build for the goal of the printer I think anything more wouldn’t give me much bang for my buck towards my goal

[jade urchin]

I waited months on whiskers for the gantry lol

[molten ibex]

[jade urchin]

Gave up because it’s not needed I just wanted the idlers mostly

And honestly I think it’d be better if it went to someone else

[molten ibex]

Whiskers do be like that

[jade urchin]

Its all good lol

[rotund steeple]

I have a solution in mind for that, hopefully I get it designed and built before you need ALL your Z space.

[jade urchin]

Yeah I’ll be fine for a while, I should still have all my x/y space

[wispy trench]

What do you want

Is this guy dumb?

Why is he tagging me

🤔 ok

[jade urchin]

Zero clue

[jade urchin]

Ok tomorrow instead, I’m tired

[jade urchin]

Back panel is on, I’ve learned that I gotta do that then umbilical mount then finish electronics and skirts and then go back and put the rest of the panels on

[jade urchin]

Lost the exhaust mount so now I’m printing a new one

Hopefully it turns out ok with no supports and orcas auto orientation 💀

[jade urchin]

Did not, will be reprinting today

[jade urchin]

Progress

I think that’s everything structurally that I had to do except for routing wires, Bowden tube, skirts and panels

Next step I think will be turning the printer over and continuing on the electronics

Gotta swap my on off switch+power input and then I think I’m gonna do one step at a time continuity checks to make sure my mains wiring is all set

After I gotta do everything else electronics wise which is scary for a first timer like me but I’m happy to know for the most part that I don’t need to make much more changes if any to the actual assembly

[molten ibex]

Just speedrun and hope for the best

[jade urchin]

Now to start on wiring again 🥲

[jade urchin]

Might have to call in some backup for this portion

[jade urchin]

I stupid 😄

[jade urchin]

@rotund steeple was I supposed to do my controller board before the primary wires 🫩

It comes first in the manual

This actually hurts my head to look at

[rotund steeple]

I don't think the order of operations matters too much, everything has to get plumbed in eventually. It might help you get better acquainted with the pinout and form a wiring plan by writing out a cheat sheet index, "this port goes to Z1, this port to the A motor, etc". Is there something specific youre getting snagged on?

[molten ibex]

that one is way too confusing, just use the btt one in their repo

[jade urchin]

I’m gonna try with Suzukis suggestion tomorrow and we shall see

[jade urchin]

If I just follow these steps exactly should I be good? I know I’ll have to go back and figure out how the toolhead integrates since it’s different from normal with my toolhead board and a4t

I’m assuming the fans for #4 are for all the non toolhead fans?

[molten ibex]

If you have a toolhead board, yes

[jade urchin]

Gonna have my coworker help me through the electrical and software portion and explain things as we go

I could just follow the manual and wing it but I wanna know I’m doing things right

And I also don’t want to go into a massive deep dive of learning everything electrical yet

[rotund steeple]

it's not that deep, you'll be excited when it clicks. Figure out how to map out one connection/device on the board and in the config, all you're doing is wiring the right pins together, then telling the software in config "hey, such and such device is connected to you, its wired to pin X.X, here are the paramaters that go with it". Once you understand what you're doing, it's largely rinse and repeat.

[jade urchin]

I’m just scared of shorting something or starting a fire

Or my toolhead crashing violently into something 😶‍🌫️

[rotund steeple]

Then don't do the mains/throw the switch til we look stuff over, you're not going to hurt anything plumbing some stuff in.

[jade urchin]

I can do that

[rotund steeple]

the first step's always the tough one, building the new neuronal bridges in the ol wet computer takes effort.

[jade urchin]

Yeah every time I figure out a step it’s like ok I could run through this quick next time

[rotund steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/subrote-star-trek-levar-burton-yes-agree-gif-22090458

[jade urchin]

It’s honestly a lot of the lack of understanding that gets me

[rotund steeple]

Any nefarious plans this weekend?

[jade urchin]

I’ve been working on other stuff 😔