Microwave 2.0

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-tm-soontm-soonthefinals-gif-7193921574602172103

Here's a questions for a dumb dumb, how is it normally mounted? RTV seems extreme but then again, so does a fire. XD

[pine delta]

Normally most bolt the thermal fuse to the plate. But RTV to the heater is safer as you don’t have to wait for the plate (which could be a good 1cm from the heater) to reach the temp for the fuse to pop.

[lean panther]

why not install the 180 or 125? seems ok-ish

[fervent zephyr]

125 limits the bed to 115ish, 180 would be better than nothing right now

They are +- 10C or 10% iirc

[pine delta]

125c is below my goal of 135c bed temp. 180c is above the thermostat in the heater which is 150c. So it would likely do nothing forever. Just like it’s currently wired. And with RTV that means I’ll not be removing that thermal fuse ever. I’d rather do it with the correct fuse when I’m ready to.

[lean panther]

thats fair, as an aside I thought thermal fuses do their own temp sensing

[pine delta]

The thermostat in the heater is like a self resetting fuse. So while the thermostat will shut off the heater at 150c. It will also turn the heater back on at 140c (just an example. I don’t know the specifications of the thermostat other than the temp it’s rated to turn off)

[pine delta]

They do. In the way of just popping when they themselves are within +/-10% of their temperature rating.

[hollow hemlock]

Oh gotchas

[tardy tusk]

What toolhead?

[pine delta]

UAP

[tardy tusk]

That's the one on printables?I like it. Where you get the sock/cage and what boatd

Would be nice on the 500 I'm building

[pine delta]

Yes. The heatshield is available from SmolBoi also on printables. I ordered mine from JLC3DP printed in SLM titanium. I’m using a EBB36 but I made a mount specifically for it.

[tardy tusk]

I see. I'll ping them when time comes, still miss parts, to not say haven't started the build yet

[pine delta]

I mean. @raw sorrel is in this build log. Or at least was at one point.

[tardy tusk]

Yeah, I knew who you were talking about

[pine delta]

Heh. I love tridents. The carto coil is ~58mm from the bed surface. Chamber top is right next to the camera there (camera outside chamber, chamber thermistor inside chamber), and chamber bottom is ~50mm from the bottom in the back left corner.

Oh. And I have no door.

It's just a towel I draped over the front

🤣 . The HE fan just kicked on as well. Nice

[pine delta]

Chamber reached 60c with a towel door. 🤣. Steppers were enabled for ~1 hour as well and were only at 70c. Pretty sure I can safely increase drive current for them from 1a to probably 1.2a. Nice.

[raw sorrel]

It’s great until your carto gets to 125c and dies during a print

[pine delta]

I’ve never seen a carto get above 100c myself. As in. They never reach that temp. I even usually run 135c bed temps for the first layer to preheat the chamber faster.

[raw sorrel]

My chamber got to 75c and that thing died pretty quick. Carto ht is still in testing but it should be out soon ish. Currently using beacon and it runs quite a bit cooler than Carto

[pine delta]

Yea. Beacon is an eventual plan anyways. Cause of the mag bed thing. But it’s a long ways out.

[pine delta]

Not bad!

[hollow hemlock]

Looks like it came out quite good

[pine delta]

Bed adhesion is pretty good too. Lol

[pine delta]

Taking up more of the plate this print

@timid arrow This is what I meant by “I torture these shelves”. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

looks very very stuck on

[pine delta]

https://github.com/Xiar1/Voron/tree/main/vT.2109

Configs are now on github

[proven sapphire]

Do you have configs for #1309948210160205834 anywhere?

[pine delta]

Not up to date ones I don’t think.

[pine delta]

60c chamber 110c bed

Can't see in printer rn but webcam solves that. Lol. @dusk crest is right. Camera for monitoring is even at a low resolution

[pine delta]

@hollow hemlock Door hardware ready to go! Now to just wait on the door to arrive. Probably Monday/tuesday cause I presume mandala doesn’t work weekends. Lol

And they were printed on Microwave 2.0 too!

[pine delta]

I now have everything ready for the door….. but I still have no door. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

Oooooo loooking very nice. I'm guess thing the little numbs on the middle and left one are the locking bits?

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[pine delta]

Yep. They aren’t “locking” but they are the magnet holders to hold the door shut. I’m gonna redesign them though to use the mandala magnets. For extreme strength. Lol.

Hmmm… I could do maglocks… the M8P can easily power those…

Hmmm. Dang. They aren’t typically only rated for 55c ambient temps. Lol. 70c goal chamber temp may melt them.

[hollow hemlock]

Maglock would be cool, and perhaps but maybe. Might be worth a try though. Maybe add something to them to keep it "cooler"

[pine delta]

Not gonna happen when they are in the chamber. Lol. The lowest temp I could keep them would be the chamber temp.

I may even just make actual latches. Like friction ones.

[raw sorrel]

I used an externally mounted electromagnet for a little while. need to hardware control it though

otherwise if you have another process running you can't open the door

cabinet magnets work perfectly

[hollow hemlock]

I'm curious what your vibration mapping looks like. Been trying to figure mine out, cold and hot, and no nevermore = best results, but with, it varies hard core.

[hollow hemlock]

True true. Could have something on the outside of the chamber, but that might not look the best. Unless you can make a nice design or something

[heavy crest]

what is the name of the purgeline ur using? @pine delta

[pine delta]

Squiggly purge

#1309948210160205834 message

[fervent zephyr]

@pine delta maybe a little off topic, but what results did you get from running 2504s on PET-CF mounts for max current?

[pine delta]

I never had 2504’s. 😅. I went from 2004’s to 3004’s. And I never really tested much current on the PET-CF mounts when Hexdent had them. That was back when it was a stock trident.

[fervent zephyr]

gotcha. FAFO it is

[pine delta]

The door for this printer will be here today!

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-22712908

[pine delta]

I meant tomorrow… I typed that half awake. 😅

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-no-noooo-gif-7347380959994097336

[jagged delta]

Hello and congratulations on this printer!!!! If it's not a secret, what is that toolhead / extruder? I'm going to start building my first Voron soon (yes!) and I'm looking for good ideas!

[pine delta]

That toolhead is UAP. You can find it on printables. It’s a Goliath hotend with SLM titanium heatshield and CPAP cooling.

Fixed my belt tension and gained 2k accel on Y compared to before... This printer is breaking in perfectly apparently. (gonna redo with 5 scv and up to 200 on frequency)

[pine delta]

Not bad! I did increase APH to 100 as well. X could definetly use some work but I think I'll leave it there for now.

[pine delta]

Printing well!

Need to add one more top layer when doing infill this little clearly. And still need to tune the retractions. Or leave the spool in there while I print ABS next time 🤣

[pine delta]

Supports failed but are slowly recovering. (also, what a perfect use of a long exposure photo. 🤣 )

[pine delta]

Door! I currently don’t have the latches or foam tape on yet but I love it!

Smoothest door I have ever used.

This door was so expensive and so nice that I have to agree with @modest plaza here and put the foam tape on the frame.

[open elm]

oh damn that looks cool!

is that actual glass or pc?

[pine delta]

PC. 6mm thick!

[open elm]

damn nice!

#1434612830614585476 is gonna get a clicky clack door with glass panel thats gonna look

[pine delta]

I thought about the clicky clack door but wanted something that didn’t stick out so far.

[open elm]

yea thats fair!

[pine delta]

Foam seal has been applied!

[lean panther]

Ooooh nice!

I like the frameless look :3

[pine delta]

There it is! Minus the magnetic catches I need to design to use magnets I have on hand anyways. I love it.

I’m gonna reuse the neodymium magnets from the magbed when I swapped them for SMCO. No magnet is needed on the door itself as I used carbon steel screws for the handles and the magnets will just attract those.

@violet sage I love the K3 door as well

Once I get those magnet holders made, printed, and mounted this printer will never see a lower temp filament than ABS again more than likely. I still need to install a PT1000 in the Goliath but I am kinda dreading doing that rn due to how hard it’s gonna be to do so.

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/oooo-no-way-wow-surprised-stare-gif-14454515

[hollow hemlock]

Guessing it's pretty stuck in the hotend?

[pine delta]

No. I gotta remove the hotend from UAP due to its positioning right next to the duct. Can’t unscrew it.

[hollow hemlock]

Oooohhhhh. that sounds like a pain in the backside.

Having to go with a PT1000 because of heat right?

[pine delta]

The filaments I want Microwave 2.0 to be able to print need to print at 320c and higher. So I need a PT1000 instead of the generic 3950 I’m using right now.

[hollow hemlock]

Ah gotchas. What material? I eventually plan on something similar, but later XD. Need some temp protection

[hollow hemlock]

Also the name will be fitting for higher temps lol

[pine delta]

Certain PC’s and other exotics.

[hollow hemlock]

Oooooo nice nice. If I recall PC is one of my eventual targets. So do share with how that all goes

[pine delta]

When I can afford them. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

Lol, yeah that stuff, not cheap at all. So painfully expensive for the exotics that you will probably spend a chunk of the spool figuring out how the hell to even print it 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/patrickpain-patricksomuchpain-patrickfleas-spongebobpain-spongebobsomuchpain-gif-18151897

[pine delta]

Satisfying door thump as it closes. 😆

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-nooice-bling-key-and-peele-gif-4294979

[chilly flicker]

this thump alone makes me want to get one 😅

[pine delta]

Door stays shut during printing without much issue! Hooray! And despite the 30k accel max in this thing (not the actual max just my max I planned on for it) it’s quieter than the X1C now with the door. Lmao.

[pine delta]

Just over 2 times faster than an X1C as well. Same print on it would take 3.1 hours. This only takes 1.4 hours. Lol.

[bright aurora]

Probably due to the double used accel and the over double flow

[pine delta]

Yea something like that. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Also V6 nozzles over a pin that cant be removed

[pine delta]

Which does mean that if I do hit 1k print hours on it. I’ll have printed the same amount as the X1C. Lmao.

[bright aurora]

Lol.

[tardy tusk]

I warped mine

[pine delta]

Mines 6mm PC. I highly doubt I’ll be able to warp that.

[tardy tusk]

Yep, 6mm PC,I warped it

[pine delta]

How tf did you manage that?

[tardy tusk]

328cfm of bedfans

[pine delta]

Well I don’t have that. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/violet-wtf-spit-take-spit-water-gagged-gif-5590139569255826240

[lean panther]

so is the x1c out of a job now that this is your reliable one? :3

[bright aurora]

By what I know and Xiar has said yes that was the purpose of the Microwave to replace the X1C until Smth happens

[pine delta]

For the most part. Lol. I still need to do some proper tuning ofc.

[raw sorrel]

probably because of the awesome toolhead

[pine delta]

Hey @inland stratus . Quick question. How hard is switching ATSS AWD to 9mm belts? Do I just need different spacers and the additional bearings for the bearing stack? And of course pulleys and the other stuff. I’m just trying to decide if I should go ahead and change over or not.

[pine delta]

I can get the heater I want!

[bright aurora]

Do it

[pine delta]

I plan to. Eventually. I am atm broke. Lol. Also after today I’ll have to decide between ordering CNC machine parts and ordering printer parts.

[bright aurora]

Lol same I just bought a 5070 since GPU prices are about to skyrocket since AI companies cant get enough DDR ram chips so now there buying in bulk GDDR ram chips

[hollow hemlock]

freaking ai companies

[bright aurora]

I hate em. I hope the AI Bubble pops soon

[pine delta]

Lol. My 3090 just keeps going.

I’m waiting on Amazon to deliver some thin aluminum plates and 2mm endmills to see if a dirt cheap 3018 cnc can even look like it will mill aluminum. If it does well then I’ll probably look at getting a new spindle and metal Z for it instead of printer parts.

[hollow hemlock]

My 1080ti is the same way but starting to show age sadly

[bright aurora]

Lol. I'm on a 1070 rn.....

I cant wait for the Voron mill

[hollow hemlock]

EVGA made an awesome graphics card

[pine delta]

If it works out I plan on cutting some double shear bearing holders for Microwave here. Be my very own CNC’d parts.

[bright aurora]

Your on a EVGA 1080Ti? Lol im on a EVGA 1070 lol

[hollow hemlock]

I do too. I use AI time to time, but what they are doing now days, the companies, are just.. not great and keep screwing up everything

[hollow hemlock]

Yep. EVGA 1080ti FTW 3

[bright aurora]

Sometimes its usefull but yeah.

[pine delta]

I had a 1070ti with an i7-8700. Then caught the 3090 prices dropping drastically when 40 series released and scalpers were getting rid of product. Got it for $900 that day. $600 below MSRP. Later on I finally upgraded the cpu to a i9-13900kf. Lol

[dusk crest]

I have a RTX 3090 and I never once have played a game. LOL

[hollow hemlock]

I look forward to seeing that stuff

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

[bright aurora]

Nice. I've got the EVGA 1070 SuperClocked

[pine delta]

I torture mine with hexagons in fusion 360. 🤣. Whole computer starts screaming at me.

[dusk crest]

I feel this. LOL

[hollow hemlock]

That was a pretty good card too if I recall. Nvidia was honestly just very generous with the 1080ti, then it went all down hill XD

[pine delta]

[bright aurora]

Lol I just bought the 5070 At MSRP so im happy and it should last me for awhile especially since all id need to do is upgrade the CPU and then its a $2k rig

[pine delta]

This is fusion 360 rendering btw. 🤣

[dusk crest]

I haven't tried rendering but I can imagine.

[pine delta]

Fusion doesn’t touch the GPU for rendering. So it’s all cpu. And it’s relentless on it. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Yeah. It went downhill HARD only reason im still on Nvidia is some specific programs is use really benefit from the Cuda cores and the DLSS is a bonus to make it run smoother

[hollow hemlock]

Very nice setup. Still on first gen ryzen myself.
The 3090 I assume is doing you well. All the overhead!!!!

[hollow hemlock]

You're joking....

[pine delta]

Me 2! But now it looks like Amazon delivers tomorrow. Oh well. More helldiving today instead then. 😆

[dusk crest]

Not joking

[bright aurora]

4x the cores my Cpu has but 2.5ghz slower

[pine delta]

Not in the slightest.

[pine delta]

Ah but what you see there is the average cpu speed. The first 4 p-cores are clocked at 6GHZ.

[hollow hemlock]

Yeah.... That is the downside. I think even with the hit I'll go AMD next time. I'm on linux anyway so it would do better, but Resolve, which is my editing software I want to get back to use, favors Nvidia.

[bright aurora]

Lol. Apparently the next Big updates December 2nd cant wait for more Hell and hopefully a Smaller download size like they promised

[hollow hemlock]

Nvidia is a bitch TBH

[hollow hemlock]

that's dumb

[pine delta]

Immediately is a full game redownload.

[bright aurora]

By the time I need to upgrade Again im certain AMD will help the better pick

[pine delta]

Yes

[bright aurora]

[bright aurora]

Ah. Well ive got 6 Cores at 5.5Ghz

75W though

Will be upgrading that next on the system

[pine delta]

Heh… mine draws 300w under a full load. Lmao.

[bright aurora]

I find it funny i have a 150W GPU and a 75W Cpu on a 1250W PSU

[bright aurora]

Lol

The PSU Dosent Do ANYTHING at all lol the fan Idles and thats it

[pine delta]

I have a 1kw PSU for future upgradability. Like a new GPU. That will be an opportunistic upgrade though. I have no plan to upgrade that right now. I do need more RAM. Turns out fusion eats 64GB for a breakfast snack. Waiting till I get my tax refund to upgrade to 128GB.

[bright aurora]

Lol. I've got 32GB of RAM, and I need to figure out why, no matter how much I have, no matter what system, no matter what I do, Windows always uses 50% of my RAM.

[pine delta]

I’d like to switch to DDR5 but motherboard + RAM is probably outside of the scope of a tax refund sadly

[bright aurora]

Im On DDR5 myself rn just got the Build done about 2 weeks ago

Colorfull thing. The GPU wasn't in it yet lol

[pine delta]

I went with DDR4 for now cause I had the 64GB already. Lol. Now I need more apparently. Here I was. Thinking 64GB would be plenty.

[bright aurora]

For Fusion Never

Theres a reason why high end fusion systems run ThreadRippers and 256gb or above ram

[bright aurora]

My GPU upgrade though was 4GB of Vram 700mhz clock speed and 20K Mhz Memory speed JEEZ who knew the difference between GDDR5 and GDDR7 was THAT big

[pine delta]

Mine. Ignore the dust. It’s been a while. Lol.

[bright aurora]

Lol. Seems we both got an AIO even my 2 fan one is Severe overkill for my AMD Cpu though

[pine delta]

Yes. My motherboard has LEDs as well. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Asides from mine has an extra 2 fans on the bottom we've got almost the same configuration

[pine delta]

Uhhhh…. The i9-13900kf struggles at a max load with that big ole one. Lol. Hits 100c on a couple cores. Doesn’t thermal throttle but it comes real close. Lmao

[bright aurora]

Yeah that CPU is Known for Getting HOT

[pine delta]

Yes. Yes it does. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Still $500 rn though

[bright aurora]

According to what I can find AMDs price equivalent the Ryzen 9 9950X3D (littlerally there current Best CPU) is only average about 22% faster for tasks like Fusion 360. While being 130W less and 30C cooler. Damn

Core Ultra 9 285K is Intels best Cpu. 250W max draw up to 15c Hotter. With a 17% improvement compared to your current

Though the Core Ultra 9 285K is cheaper lol

[pine delta]

Yea… I’m perfectly happy with my current cpu. Lol. No need to upgrade that.

[bright aurora]

Def. Not wouldn't be too worth it.

[pine delta]

I got it for $600 at the time

[bright aurora]

Its about $5-600 on Amazon rn soo about the same

[pine delta]

It’s a very nice for all around everything. Throw fusion at it: takes a minute for giant operations but otherwise fine, throw blender at it: literally didn’t care. Lol, throw video games it: GPU is the bottleneck. Lol.

[bright aurora]

For me once my new GPU arrives Cpu is the bottleneck for everything with my R5 9600X

[pine delta]

I can see the GPU being the bottleneck in my build pretty well. When it’s pegged at 100% load while playing video games and the cpu is cold. 🤣.

It’s definitely gonna hate me more when I upgrade the monitor to the dual 4k Samsung odyssey I plan to.

[fervent zephyr]

These are some weird looking microwaves /s

[bright aurora]

Lol. My Cpu dosent go above 45c while the GPU is hitting 80-90c lol 20% load vs 100% load on my current setup def gonna be reversed with the new GPU

[pine delta]

It’s my log! I can talk about whatever I want to! 😆

[pine delta]

Imma make the GPU cry for help with the new monitor when I can afford it. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Lol. 4K?

[fervent zephyr]

Welcome to gchat 4.0

[pine delta]

Dual 4k. The Samsung odyssey g9. It’s a super wide 49in monitor that’s basically 2 monitors in one.

[fervent zephyr]

On the actual current topic, I was given an RTX Quadro 4000 that I'm going to replace with a 16GB 5060TI once my old PC sells

[pine delta]

Current version I have is dual 1080p. So 3840x1080.

[fervent zephyr]

and then sell the quadro for printer funds

[bright aurora]

Dang. I've only got 1 1440p 180Hz and 1 1080P 60Hz monitor

Thinking a R9 9700X for my next CPU

For $330.....

[pine delta]

My monitor upgrade will cost me $1.6-2k depending on timing of when I order and when I actually have that much to spend. Lol.

[fervent zephyr]

I got a free PC from a friend who works IT, so I got an I7-12700K that replaced my I5-7600K

[bright aurora]

Dang. I'm not gonna have money to just spend like that for awhile

[bright aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[pine delta]

It’s the Neo g9 I want. https://a.co/d/jhd5Q1p Currently $1.5k actually. Lol

Dual 4k 57in super wide monitor. 🤣

42lbs even.

My current one is freaking heavy too. It hurts mentally to need to move it. Lol. These things aren’t cheap.

[bright aurora]

Nah you want the Samsung wall only 130 inch screen for $40K 🤑
https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/direct-view-led/ia-series/all-in-one-iac-130-2k-lh015iacchs-za/

[pine delta]

Yea… that ain’t fitting in my tiny ass apartment. Lol.

Plus that’s only 2k

I want the dual 4k.

[bright aurora]

Theres a 16K version. Not even joking its $230K

[pine delta]

Welp. I’m off to go solo dive whilst I await my friends to be online/off work too.

[bright aurora]

Its Samsungs most expensive screen actually

[bright aurora]

Lol id see if i could join ya if i wasn't leaving to tbe gym in an hour

[slender ibex]

It is so incredibly tempting to call work and say I'll be late just so I can drag you into a level 10 toaster kill squad

[pine delta]

You scare me. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Ive gotten like 30 secs away from soloing a lvl 10 twice now

[slender ibex]

remember, you dont have to extract to win

survival is very optional

[lean panther]

I want tandem oled so much lol. So bright and no ambient purple haze

[hollow hemlock]

know someonewith that monitor, at least I think its that. But it's really REALLY nice

If you move with it though, be VERY VERY careful. His broke and had to get a replacement

personally my monitors aren't the best. Got a decent one from a friend though. First wide screen, still 1080 but works well

[pine delta]

Oh I know. I already have one a few generations old. Lol. Mines just not the dual 4k. Mines dual 1080.

[hollow hemlock]

Oh dang! Bet it is still quite nice though. TBH wide screens are fantastic. Though I still like having more than one

[pine delta]

Some HD2 gameplay for ya on it.

@hollow hemlock ^

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-will-ferrell-beautiful-its-beautiful-wonderful-gif-3547414

Also had no idea helldivers had a crossbow XD

Looks fun, and even more fun on the widest of wide bois

[pine delta]

Mines uh… Level 25… it’s kinda almost all I use. 🤣. It’s explosive and amazing and one handed. Lol

(Level 25 is max level for weapons)

[hollow hemlock]

Good lord you must have put some time to get it to 25 then. Can't imagine leveling weapons in that game is exactly fast.one handed explosive firing weapons are always worth the time. Too bad it probably doesn't make a nice thump sound..

[pine delta]

I mean… I am level 46. 🤣

Not as high as Taco here but I unlocked it early.

[hollow hemlock]

I'm very sad the thumper launcher isn't a gif on here.... disappointment

[hollow hemlock]

Good lord, y'all must play a decent amount of the game. Does seem quite a nice time passer. And rage room XD

[pine delta]

If I’d join the Helpers during their dives I’d have a lot more time in the game. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

Seems to be you are slacking then

[pine delta]

Lol. Nah. I just have a work, life, sleep schedule that doesn’t coincide with their play times.

[hollow hemlock]

Ew responsibilities 😂

[bright aurora]

Exactly

[pine delta]

Baby squiggle for:

This print:

Gonna put a stealthmax S smart on this microwave I’ve decided.

[bright aurora]

Wonder which parts of the build plate is available for the squiggle. Def not just the corners or Inside the part but i doubt adaptive purge is that good

But 5 ½ hrs for that isnt bad at all

[pine delta]

It’ll put it as close to 0,0 as it can on this print. That’s why I made it so small. To hopefully just barely fit.

[bright aurora]

It should fit in that hole. If not manually remove it as fast as possible while the layers slow

[pine delta]

Slow?

[bright aurora]

Well the first layer is relatively slow

[pine delta]

You fail to realize my first layer is as fast as a normal layer. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Hmmm I see Nasa Adhesion

[pine delta]

Yea… I don’t have adhesion problems since I learned how to care for the plate. Lol

I do need to clean this plate before hitting print though.

[bright aurora]

Ive never had even a brand new plate adhere that well lol

[pine delta]

Oof. Someone’s unlucky

[bright aurora]

Well i also haven't gotten a like $80 West3D plate soo

[pine delta]

That’s a pretty cheap plate I’m using rn. Lol

[bright aurora]

If only they had round ones for Deltas lol id buy like 4 instantly just for my one delta

It needs it

[hollow hemlock]

You are finally putting a filter on something XD

[pine delta]

Bambu ABS is why

[hollow hemlock]

Good lord that stuff is fumy
Always surprises me. The asa i use you can sometimes see it on the purge line but that is so much more

Curious, what do you print at temp wise?

[pine delta]

This is just from purge black to go to yellow. And yes. The whole time it prints it does that.

[pine delta]

260c. 50mm of meltzone means it’s definitely melted. Lol. Plus. Not even using half the max flow of Goliath helps.

[pine delta]

Took a moment and set the temp names better. C = Chamber, M = MCU, and if I ever have thermistors on the steppers they will be S = Stepper.

[pine delta]

Attempt one. Failed. Front left corner didn’t attach to the plate sadly. Think I really am gonna glue the plate for this print.

[hollow hemlock]

That is insane.
And 260? It smokes that much! I printed with revo at 270-275.

[hollow hemlock]

I had just been wondering if you could pull from the same sensor multiple time, for averaging and general. Nice. But looks quite neat. You have so many sensors XD

Kind of wish klipper had stuff for humidity sensors too though

[hollow hemlock]

Honestly, v1 was hard to get stuck with no warp, so glue that sumbish lol

[pine delta]

It’s not v1… it’s the small version. The 350 isn’t available for abs at this time. Lol. Otherwise this print would been completed days ago. 🤣

[raw sorrel]

your z offset is high everywhere

[pine delta]

You are seeing layer 2-4 somewhere in there. It’s not high anywhere.

Also you’re seeing the effect caused by the slightly too low EM I use. It’s only under by like 0.5% but that’s on purpose.

[hollow hemlock]

How come?

[pine delta]

I prefer this look. It’s the way the X1C prints things with its automatic calibration stuff. And I like it.

[hollow hemlock]

I mean when I printed the full sized one myself of v1. Had some issues with the print. Though, given I have a 300 plate, it was on the VERY edge

[pine delta]

Lol. I have a 250 and I’m on the edges as well printing the small.

[hollow hemlock]

Ah gotcha. I have tried going for as smooth as I can, so I get going with that. Didn't know that the X1C went that route. Guess it is safer than going with a bit over.

[hollow hemlock]

Oh yes that's right, for some reason I was thinking this printer was 300 not 250 XD. Was wondering why you went with the small. Printing at the edge is so rough....

[pine delta]

Pretty much. There’s always been the tiniest of gaps on printed parts off the X1C. And I haven’t noticed any problems. So I tune to that as well.

[pine delta]

Take a look at the above pic one more time. If I knew this would last in PLA-F (15% ABS 85% PLA) I would print it on Hexdent. Sucker could knock out this print in just a couple hours. 🤣.

[hollow hemlock]

Hmm it does look a lot smaller now I'm giving it a closer look... XD

[pine delta]

The tiny toolhead makes it look bigger than it actually is. Lol. Plus the nema14 motors.

[hollow hemlock]

A, the ABS PLA thing still baffles me... how. Thought they weren't compatiable XD.

Honestly I'd love to see the Hexdent printing at mach fuck you and ending with something usable XD

[hollow hemlock]

I think my experience is also so limited I expect everything to be as big as my v2

Like just holding the A4T i'm thinking its super tiny lol

[pine delta]

Ask and you shall receive. Lid to my lionfish tank which protects him from my cat and my cat from him (he’s venomous).

[hollow hemlock]

It so FAST. Guess once I get chube I'll be seeing how fast my printer can actually go XD. Maybe I'll get lucky and match your speeds. (A man can dream XD ) I completely forgot about this print though TBH. Were you able to figure out something for the little hole?

Lionsfish are an interesting animal. How is it taking care of it?

[pine delta]

The little hole has a lid that just sits on it. It was printed on the v0 while the full lid was printed. Was pushing ~60³ continuous flow. 0.5 nozzle.

He’s fun. They learn who feeds them and well. Be careful feeding them. They are aggressive. I got him eating freeze dried krill. He’s quite aggressive.

[hollow hemlock]

Good lord that is a lot! Pretty quick print I imagine

He is just a little hangry fella lol. Pretty and dangerous tend to go hand and hand XD

[bright aurora]

You referring to the fish or printer?

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[pine delta]

Indeed they do! 😆

[hollow hemlock]

lol, was talking about the fish

[bright aurora]

Ik. But couldn't help but make the joke

[pine delta]

When it reaches the set preheat chamber temp (50c). 😆

Microwave beeps! 🤣

[bright aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/microwave-lulnotfrench-gif-5961602760830025297

[pine delta]

Let’s hope for no issues for the next 5.5 hours.

[pine delta]

@desert jetty My print speeds for ya.

[bright aurora]

"I Cast LAYER SHIFT"

[pine delta]

YOU MONSTER!

[bright aurora]

And im pretty sure thats not monotonic for the bottom

[fervent zephyr]

saving throw!

[bright aurora]

Quick roll a D20

[pine delta]

It is…

[pine delta]

Got a 19!

[bright aurora]

Huh. I've always had my monotonic do the small zones as its passing by them when yours just skipped one

[pine delta]

In case you don’t believe me. That was the first roll. 🤣

[pine delta]

That’s the second layer. Lol.

Or maybe third…

[bright aurora]

Lol.

[pine delta]

Currently using noise cancelling earbuds and blasting music to not hear the printer (and the birds while I clean them up a bit). Lmao.

[bright aurora]

Is it that loud lol

[pine delta]

Absolutely gorgeous infill layer.

[pine delta]

When it’s doing the 400mm/s at 30k accel moves yea. Lol.

The microwave knows how to scream. Lol

[bright aurora]

Lol. That's what stealthchops for especially since its meant to be a X1C replacement and by what I know those are pretty quiet

[pine delta]

Stealthchop is basically useless in a CoreXY. The motors spin way too fast. Also. The X1C is by no means quiet. I should know. Lol. The microwave can print so much faster that I’m perfectly fine throwing on headphones and playing video games or listening to music.

[bright aurora]

Youd be surprised how loud smth can get before i consider it loud. If im trying to sleep the A1 Minis noisy but awake its silent to me

[pine delta]

It’s about 70db right at the door. And with my AirPods in I’m only hearing 50db.

My watch is fancy. Lol.

[bright aurora]

Thats like 10db quieter than what my Deltas old and new fan difference is lol the old one was 80-85db and the new one 60-65db

[pine delta]

And this has CPAP.

[bright aurora]

Whats the max_power set to though? 1 im guessing

[pine delta]

Right now I’m only using 30% max. I don’t see the point in more. Lol

I’ve mostly only printed full plates so far. So don’t need a ton of cooling. Especially in a 60c chamber.

[bright aurora]

The cfg max_power or the fan %? There quiet different

[pine delta]

1.0. Min is 0.15.

Kalico auto scales that though. So I’m using 30% from 0.15 to 1.0.

It makes 0.15 be 1% and 1.0 be 100%.

[bright aurora]

Yeah thats what i guessed. The db of the new fan was at 1 max pwr and the old one was at 0.8

[open elm]

Kalico is cool and all

[pine delta]

heh.... Loving that estimate. Lmao

It's dropping about 10 seconds per second. Lmao

[bright aurora]

Lol. I would test the estimate for that model on one of my machines but none of the ones big enough are working rn

[pine delta]

Can always just slice it

[bright aurora]

Well im pretty sure its larger than 220 so the one machine big enough i havent tuned anything on yet 😅

[pine delta]

Lol. Yea. It's 242x242

[bright aurora]

Yeah that one machine i got that could fit that is the V2 300 but that hasn't booted yet since the one time I got it working the SD card was corrupted and when I tried to re do it the one reader I had broke and i haven't gotten a new one lol

But the V2 also has a Revo hotend and is just 24V sooo.
And also not Mine Mine just mine rn temporarily

The E5S1 is the closest. But if it was vertical the Delta would finish it fastest and was 22mm smaller lol

[pine delta]

Pardon my language but...

FUCK

It was going so well too! 😭

[bright aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-ultrakill-die-dying-cerberus-gif-13727369702530423152

[pine delta]

Gonna restart it in a minute. I've stopper klipperscreen service and crowsnest.

[bright aurora]

Did the Host Overload or smth?

[open elm]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-12565004940729182637

[bright aurora]

If so. How is this always the issue with you

[pine delta]

Checking log so gimme a minute. But it is a CB1 that I was absolutely slamming. Lol

[open elm]

well i mean

only place the cb1 belongs is in the trash can 🙂

[bright aurora]

That would do it with that machine for certain. Cm5 time

[pine delta]

Lol. You are welcome to send me the funds for a CM4/5.

[open elm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-no-gif-16925608232308805852

[bright aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

(My biggest set back and the reason I dont have 7 projects atm^)

[pine delta]

That poor carto. 🤣

[bright aurora]

It made the error out of pain

[pine delta]

That's weird right?

Almost exactly every 5 minutes

[bright aurora]

That is very odd

Theres gotta be smth that cycles every 5 mins

[pine delta]

No bytes retransmit. So thats good. Likely no wiring or CAN bus related issues

[bright aurora]

Not smth to do with lighting is it.

[pine delta]

Not really possible. Leds are controlled with a WLED controller that, yes, moonraker is connected to but only to tell it what to do when I tell it to. No automation there

[bright aurora]

Are you able to get any data on what was happening when the pulses ate happening

[pine delta]

So far no. Can't find anything

[bright aurora]

Does the screen have a idle timeout?

[pine delta]

Disabled

[bright aurora]

Guessing no timelapse

[pine delta]

Definetly not

And this printer has run longer prints then it made it in this print

What was I doing at 7am?

[bright aurora]

By what I can find the only thing thats common with a Cb1 that does that is klipperscreen but that is usually from a idle timeout causing a surge for a moment or a "high-resolution" Webcam running a timelapse or shutting off and back on once every while

Or overheating getting close to the max where it has to thermal throttle once in awhile

[pine delta]

It isn't going over 45c

[bright aurora]

Hmmmm

[pine delta]

I might’ve used too much glue. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Maybe a little

[pine delta]

Well. I’m discouraged right now. So probably not gonna go ahead and re-attempt this print right now honestly.

[bright aurora]

Hexdent could do it if ya need it done

And its not busy

[pine delta]

No it can’t. It’s currently clogged and not capable of ABS due to no panels

[bright aurora]

Still no panels? And what clogged a Chube

[pine delta]

Pla. Duh. It’s a Chube conduction. Lol. Heat creep

[bright aurora]

Ofcourse you got heat creep.

[pine delta]

Beds at 60c, motors blasting the area with 70c, and there’s no cooling fan on a Chube conduction…. 🤣

[bright aurora]

And the Extruder stepper def didnt help

[pine delta]

Eh. That’s fine. It’s rather isolated from the hotend. Lol. I don’t have a metal extruder yet on it.

[bright aurora]

Also next Monday is on the day 2 months from when youd posted a New video of the Hexdent printing on the Hexdent channel

[pine delta]

It does all this back to back without a single issue but now it has an issue?!

Nearly 13 hours of printing and not caring

And we can't make it past an hour into a different print

102 print jobs... Not one TTC error. Just errors caused by me. wtf

[bright aurora]

It didnt like the glue

[bright aurora]

Smth had to be compiling slowly overtime

[pine delta]

What you can’t see there is the multiple reboots. 😅

[lean panther]

Yolo it again? :3

[pine delta]

Probably not for a few days. Honestly. It hit me so hard I called it done for the day and fell asleep earlier.

[foggy trail]

@pine delta https://www.ebay.com/itm/257159815682

[pine delta]

Doesn’t lite not have WiFi?

[foggy trail]

Lite is no eMMC

[pine delta]

Ah. Would help if I look at the code in the pic.

[lean panther]

I bought that exact one from eBay. looks legit but haven't flashed yet

So cheap

[pine delta]

Well I still have no funds. So it’ll be a while. And I doubt I’ll order it this pay day.

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-brooklyn-guy-howd-you-do-that-how-did-you-do-that-how-did-you-do-it-gif-24438761

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kobe-bryant-gif-15223189

[pine delta]

Here’s the plan @bright aurora . We’re gonna take the CM5 from Hexdent. I don’t use Hexdent much right now due to the whole PLA + Conduction = bad time situation. Gonna backup everything from the home folder on both printers to GitHub for safe keeping. Then flash a brand new sd card for Microwave 2.0 instead of overwriting anything. For backup purposes.

Hexdent will get a CM4 when I can order one in the future.

But the Microwave will get the nice CM5 for future longevity and reliableness.

[bright aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-16644513012642585936

[pine delta]

This is gonna take awhile.

[bright aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

[pine delta]

WinSCP currently downloading all the home folder from both printers.

[bright aurora]

Currently im trying to figure out why I cant get TPU to extrude consistenly for the life of me on my Delta.

Thinking that retraction might be on in the default tpu profile

[pine delta]

SD card is now flashing as well with legacy os lite. Bookworm for the CM5. Since shaketune currently doesn’t support trixie.

Also carto didn’t until the beta. Lol

Absolutely hammering storage media on my pc rn. Lmao. Good thing for the nice nvme ssd.

Oh. And probably gonna reprint the UAP in the coming couple of weeks in Ambrosia PCCF

[bright aurora]

Im pretty sure my storage wouldn't have an issue when very few printers have even 100gb of data total

And its currently sitting at 2tb free total

[pine delta]

Nah. I’m just hammering the read write speeds. Lol.

[pine delta]

Lucky… I have 200gb free.

[bright aurora]

Ah. How fast does your drive go?

[pine delta]

7Gbps. 🤣

[bright aurora]

I swaped to the slim Helldivers beta (even though its not actually a Beta) and it got me like 130gb back

[bright aurora]

🤣 so close mine does exactly 7.2gbps

[pine delta]

Yea that’s what I did too……. You can guess why. 🤣 (the value I stated is right now…)

[pine delta]

I plan on running 3 2Tb drives in raid at some point for my main drive. However. Funding is limited.

[bright aurora]

I currently have only 1 4Tb m.2 drive. But I could fit 2 more in my motherboard and then there's spots in my case for 2hdd or 4 ssd drives without even using any of the pcie slots that almost all are free since vertical gpu

[pine delta]

I have 1 1Tb nvme. I have 4 nvme slots. 😆

[bright aurora]

1 more nvme slot than me. Lol

Can't believe i forgot i have 2 Pc's in my room rn lol

The new one and the old one which the 5070s box is sitting atop

[pine delta]

I’m thinking about getting whatever the cheapest NVME drives I can find are that are also 2TB each. Since I’ll be running them in raid it won’t matter if each drive is “slow” cause in raid it will be faster than my boot drive.

[bright aurora]

At that point, build a NAS. If you don't know what that is, it plugs directly into your router and is basically your own personal cloud.

[pine delta]

I have a 4TB one for backups. Lol. It’s a HDD though.

And I’m not gonna game on the network. Lol

Microwave 2.0 is backed up

[dusk crest]

That is not always the case. with only 2 drives, you will only see an increase in speed by using a RAID 0 (no redundancy). If you do a RAID1, the performance is going to be the same as the slowest drive. RAID 10 (minimum of 4 drives) if you want speed increase

[bright aurora]

They've got NVME 2.5inch SSDs lol.
Also youd have all your printing and other files that youd dont need read 1000 times a minute on the NAS the rest like games would be on your computer

[pine delta]

There is a not 0 likelihood I will be using raid0. 😅

[pine delta]

See here’s the thing… about 600GB on my drive rn is games.

[bright aurora]

Rookie numbers 3x that and thats how much is games on mine

[pine delta]

Hexdent is backed up. Time to pull SBC’s and hope I remembered everything. Lmao.

[pine delta]

Well. I only have 1TB of storage… I can’t have more.

[bright aurora]

And your almost out and im about 50% full

[pine delta]

Also. 673 files just sent to GitHub.

[bright aurora]

I dont think having all dooms installed at once helps

[pine delta]

I think I have Hexdent backed up in like 12 places now. 🤣

[bright aurora]

Not enough. Back the Hexdent up into your cpus MicroCode

[pine delta]

I will need to also print a cm5 fan mount as well…. It will need more direct cooling than the cb1 needs.

I love copper heatsinks.

[bright aurora]

We need some of those fans that are actual Blade less fans for diy 3d printing. Gonna try to find them exactly rq

[pine delta]

Imma use the old vindr 3010 from Reaper CPAP for it I think. Has a tachometer and everything.

[bright aurora]

Yeah uh a Peizo electric fan there crazy

[pine delta]

X1C is booting up to print the fan mount.

Microwave 2.0 is on the floor again on its side for the first time in probably 30 print hours.

[pine delta]

Currently just waiting on the X1C to finish.

[pine delta]

WHY DOES KLIPPER TAKE SO LONG TO INSTALL?!

Stupid freaking TTC error… grumble grumble grumble

And I have to install it twice since I need to switch it to Kalico.

Also. Why is this 3010 louder than a freaking CPAP?! 🤣

[pine delta]

rofl

[pine delta]

It's alive again! At least software side anyways. Lol

And now the CM5 fan is PID controlled and has the RPM

[pine delta]

WHY IS IT SO HEAVY?!

She lives again!

[fervent zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/microwave-gif-4094705500469098975

[pine delta]

Now with a CM5. Lol

If I get a TTC now I’m just cursed.

[raw sorrel]

using kalico?

[pine delta]

Yep. But I was using CB1 before

[pine delta]

Update. Haven’t printed anything yet. Ordered Ambrosia PCCF to reprint the toolhead in. Decided to wait to order the Stealthmax S smart parts till next payday as I have like 6 hours of overtime on that payday.

[pine delta]

Yay! I was able to keep the history going!

Nevermind on changing to endstops @bright aurora ! I was able to get sensorless 100% reliable!

[pine delta]

One perfect (to me) cube! Nice!

[bright aurora]

Nice. I can respond now that im in the car but the internet provider to me and the entire island i live on is down due to the current weather here im WA

[pine delta]

Oof. I’ll probably print the Stealthmax main body soon btw. That will be a true test of the CM5 and the printer. I lowered the accels all to 10k (leaving speeds alone) which extends it an extra hour.

[bright aurora]

If the cb1 was the issue. It'll def finish it now even if you went faster

[pine delta]

In theory. Which is why I’m slowing it down for a few prints.

[bright aurora]

Oh if ya want an idea on how bad the weather and flooding is besides the news uhh the closest water to here before was a mile this is Farm Land.

Theres a road there about 8 feet under water

[bright aurora]

Id be surprised if the cm5 goes above 30% usage.

[pine delta]

Currently idle sitting at 5%. That 5% is probably all the webcam since no hardware acceleration.

[bright aurora]

That settles it. Plug a 5090 into the Microwave

5% is too much

[pine delta]

If you’re buying.

[bright aurora]

I only bought a 5070 for myself why would i buy someone else a 5090?

[pine delta]

The 3010 berserker is keeping the CM5 perfectly cool btw. Cool to see the rpm of the fan too. It’s sitting at ~3k rpm most of the time (temp target of 55c) out of 10k rpm.

[bright aurora]

Have you seen the new Goliath Lite? I dont like the name since its the same size

[fiery sigil]

i do as well, also sorry for necro

wow that's a whole month necro

also @pine delta finally somewhat back to 3D printing! fixed v2.7390 and it's printing better than ever.

Finally good bed adhesion after throwing away my fysetc pei sheet and going with West3D

and I fixed the bent gantry issue. Just retightened everything, swapped to new belts, and made sure the belts were equal length. Seems to have worked perfectly

[pine delta]

Hey @raw sorrel quick question. Is there anything stating that I can’t move the smooth idler 0.1mm closer to the drive gear for the extruder on UAP? I feel like it needs a little more squish.

[raw sorrel]

Go for it. it was working for me but there isn’t really a great standard between bmg gears so it’s possible yours might not be the same dimensionally as mine.

[pine delta]

Cool. Wanted to be sure before printing it off in PCCF. It’s working for me right now but I almost wonder if it’s warping slowly due to being printed with Bambu ABS as well. 😅

Also gonna put a ECAS04 to hold the ptfe tube on it. I have no idea how I’m gonna do that but I’m gonna try. Lol

[raw sorrel]

Yeah I was about to say, abs is pretty soft/flexible. I used abs with stranded glass fibers for everything.

[pine delta]

That is what fixed it for now. Reprinting the front bearing holder piece in ABS-GF. But I have a feeling more warped than that.

[raw sorrel]

Pccf should be much better suited yeah

[pine delta]

Yea. Gonna be fun. First time using it. Granted. It’s Ambrosia PCCF which is closer to ezPCCF but that’s good enough for me.

[pine delta]

I can't believe that fit... Lmao

May add 1 more mm to the diameter of it

That's better

I'll feel more confident with that

And not gonna move the smooth idler cause that will take too much effort. Lol

[pine delta]

Ready to print. Yes I'm gonna print it on the X1C. I don't have a PT1000 in the Microwave 2.0 so I don't trust it to 290c like I do the X1C

[pine delta]

Small update. Old toolhead:

New toolhead:

Also discovered that Bambu ABS doesn’t like being 4mm from a 110c build plate with no part cooling on. 🤣 (left is new PCCF, right is old ABS)

And in case you didn’t see it. The ECAS-04 is black!

[hollow hemlock]

How was the expereince printing with the PCCF? Looks like it came out pretty good

[pine delta]

I printed it on the X1C using Bambu PC profile but with extruder temp upped to 280c. Printed perfectly on the first try

[hollow hemlock]

Dang, that sounds good. I'll have to pick myself up some next time I get filament from west.

[pine delta]

It’s so pretty

[hollow hemlock]

Well adding that to the list of upgrades for me XD
It looks so good! The ECAS not being blue is real nice too.

Doesn't stick out

[pine delta]

Right?! I got it from KB-3D. Ordered 5 actually. Lol. Currently is out of stock though.

[pine delta]

OH YEA! I even took the extra minute to actually properly install the PTFE tube inside the toolhead this time!

[tardy tusk]

Swap an RGB fan

[pine delta]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[lean panther]

whats the part number on this 2510 fan? if it's delta

[pine delta]

That’s the berserker 2510 from West3d.

[lean panther]

is it quiet?

[pine delta]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[hollow hemlock]

Maybe I'll get some in the future if I try a different extruder. It looks good on a blacked out toolhead

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/ed-laugh-gif-3887664

[fleet zephyr]

haven’t been by in a minute, looking very good!

[pine delta]

Thanks! Hoping this new toolhead won’t have the same issues as the old.

[hollow hemlock]

@pine delta How did you average the temps for the chamber between 2 probes?

[bright aurora]

Math most likely

[hollow hemlock]

lol, Just figured there was a macro for it

[bright aurora]

Well you can have the Printer cfg do math so its probably just another readout

[hollow hemlock]

I figured it out. There is a sensor type for combining readouts.

[pine delta]

My configs on my GitHub btw. Lol. In my bio.

[hollow hemlock]

Oh yeah!... I forgot 🤣

[pine delta]

@foggy trail Haven’t printed parts yet but. The kit has arrived!

[foggy trail]

Sweet tart ropes? I want to try those.

I’d double check the soldering on any USB extension in the kit as they had some issues before.

[pine delta]

There is no usb extension in the kit.

[foggy trail]

Might have been the v2 kits then.

[pine delta]

I am excited. It’ll be fun to try out.

Eventually I’ll get the printer printing again and print the parts. Lol

[hollow hemlock]

V1 uses Bluetooth only unless modified. I do believe there is a in place mod that can be done

Really its just the pass though that changes when it comes to the print itself but been a bit sense i looked

[hollow hemlock]

Dont forget to get some scorch or similar product. (Cant for the life of me remember the chemical name )

[pine delta]

I’ll likely just be using carbon. My chamber is only 60-65c.

[hollow hemlock]

If I recall right that's about when to add it, but then again, it's a low mix so, yeah probably fine XD.

[dawn drift]

now that you've had more time to dial things in, what are your accels and speeds at for quality printing?

[pine delta]

Usually 15k for outer walls, 15k for inner, 20k for infill, 30k for travel. Max velocity I’ve been using is 600 for travel. With print speeds in the 40³ flow area.

[bright aurora]

bassically 2x X1C

[pine delta]

Somewhere around that yea. Lol. 50 hours of print time is something close to 120hrs on the X1C.

[pine delta]

New toolhead who dis?! 😁
Going slow right now as I need a couple prints done before I can go back to faster printing. Need to support the graphics card in my PC and secure the filament shelf above it to prevent spools falling off.

[desert jetty]

That’s why my 2.4 now gets put on the floor lol and the v0 is to the point it needs to be strapped down

[pine delta]

Lol. This trident isn’t the super speedy one. That’s the trident… right below this one. 🤣. But this one will be used the most so I want to protect my PC and head.

[bright aurora]

you need to get both working

[pine delta]

You buying me a CM5?

[bright aurora]

No, But dunkin is

[pine delta]

That will depend on what kinda raise I get. Lmao.

[bright aurora]

are you that broke rn

[pine delta]

I have bills and as of 1/1 I (until further notice) am now at minimum wage again… it increased to what I’m currently making.

[bright aurora]

well obviously you need a large raise

[desert jetty]

time for a new job 🙂

[pine delta]

This is very likely going to happen this year. Despite being at Dunkin for 7+ years now.

[desert jetty]

for 7 years i would hope they would be paying you well

[bright aurora]

for 7+ years and minimum wage. You Better get a Raise or a New better paying Job

thats gotta be a crime somehow

[desert jetty]

go into manufacturing

[bright aurora]

start building printers for people

[desert jetty]

im 18 have been at the company for 1 year and im one of the highest paid on the shop floor

[bright aurora]

kinda what i want to do but not even for money just cuz i like building em and people need good printers

[pine delta]

I wasn’t minimum wage… but state raised the minimum wage and that went into effect on 1/1.

[pine delta]

I make over twice what I started at… lmao.

[desert jetty]

if you dont mind me asking what is minimum wage i mean also depends what state you are in im in ny and it is not cheap to live

[desert jetty]

in 1 year my hourly rate has increased be $8 per hour

[pine delta]

$15/h.

[desert jetty]

ya you cant live off that in ny

like not close

thats poverty

[bright aurora]

well you need nmore money

[bright aurora]

i get more than that. (but i also work alot less hours)

[pine delta]

Current living wage here is $20/h. So yea. Still live with parents cause I literally can’t afford to move out.

[desert jetty]

i work my regular 40hour week in 4 days with alot of overtime and overtime is pay and half so not to bad

[desert jetty]

im in the same boat

i just bought a house but i have over 1 year of work on it before i can move into it

[pine delta]

I’m planning on requesting a schedule change soon. To 4 10 hours shifts instead of 5 8 hour ones.

Still the same amount of hours. But more time at home

[desert jetty]

i love having a 3 day weekend

[pine delta]

I live an hour away from current work place (but get paid gas money separately and tax free) so I don’t have a lot of home time.

[desert jetty]

thats nice i mean i live 10 min from work and my brother does a hour and a half commute one way for work... lets just say i spend alot more time home

[bright aurora]

its $26/h for me

[pine delta]

I do 2 hours of commuting per day right now. I could be doing 8 minutes of commuting per day riding a bicycle to work but boss asked if I’d work in this store and I agreed only if he paid my gas. Lol

[desert jetty]

for me livable is $27.5 hour

[desert jetty]

i would say fuck it save the money and ride the bike work close

[pine delta]

Yea… but free gas.

[desert jetty]

but realistically that is like $100 a month if you didnt commute 1hour

[pine delta]

$200

If by savings. That’d be like $20.

The close by store is ~4 minutes by car, ~8 minutes by bike, ~30 minutes walking distance. Lol.

[desert jetty]

its also what you value your time at for that drive you know

[pine delta]

Heck yea! Much better camera resolution and framerate! Realized I have a CM5 so why not actually utilize it. Lol

[bright aurora]

Now this is making me wonder if a Jetson Nano as a Pi would be able to do 1080p 60fps.

[pine delta]

Probably. This is 1080 30. Camera doesn’t support 60.

[bright aurora]

Would the Cm5 be able to do that though 🤔

I can garuntee a cheap pc cpu would be able to lol

[pine delta]

That's what it's currently doing....

[bright aurora]

No i mean the 60fps

[pine delta]

Ah

[bright aurora]

Lol

[pine delta]

Outlook is good that 60fps isnt a problem

[dusk crest]

You have no lights in there. You could use a potato and see just as much 😛

[pine delta]

I have 114 leds...

[dusk crest]

You should turn them on then. You light it up so you can see???

[bright aurora]

Seems so

If the cm5 does that that easily a Jetson nano might be able to do 1440p 120fps

[pine delta]

1-100%

[bright aurora]

Eh too noticeable of a difference

[pine delta]

How's this?

[bright aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[pine delta]

Those presets are how klipper can control the leds btw

Wled + moonraker + Klipper = happy mcu’s

[bright aurora]

Klipper ❌
Kalico ✅

[pine delta]

Same same at the end of the day. Lol. I moreso mean the way to control the LEDs. Just using Klipper or Kalico to control eats into precious resources.

[bright aurora]

well within for the leds yes within the motion heck nah

[pine delta]

Nah. When using Klipper or Kalico to control LEDs with led effects motion becomes too much and you get a TTC error. 🤣

[bright aurora]

what i was meaning was for controlling leds pretty sure kalico and klipper are the same. within motion of the machine there are differences between kalico and klipper

[pine delta]

Ah. That I have no clue. Lol.

[bright aurora]

well there is diferences by quite a bit actually the whole algorithms been rewriten

[ionic atlas]

I have been in tool and die for 44 years now. Younger guys are now making really good money. I remember starting out at 7$ an hour back in the day. Now I was talking to my neighbor's kid and he is 19 and making 29$ an hour with full benefits as an apprentice at GE. There just aren't young people that are willing to join the trades anymore (besides welding)

If xiar is willing to apply for some manufacturing jobs I bet he would have a really good shot at making 10$ more an hour over Dunkin.

[pine delta]

Here’s the thing. You can say that about young people all you want. But jobs don’t hire people like they used to. I applied to over 60 places before getting the job I have now.

[pine delta]

It dawned on me. Apparently when I reinstalled the CPAP tube I rotated it perfectly to no longer need to print a tophat to stop it from slapping the top panel. Score!

[hollow hemlock]

Whatcha making?

[pine delta]

Filament storage dowel holders. (Middle dowel is held down with a bungee to prevent spools from falling over). Needed something to hold the spools better because of the vibrations from Microwave 2.0 knocking things on my head off the shelf above. Lol. Still need to print at least 1-2 more sets I think but I need to get more dowels to finish it too.

[ionic atlas]

60? That is terrible! I hope you find a decent job somewhere. Good luck. Sounds like you are going to need it in your area.

[pine delta]

Yea. We’ll see in a few days about if I’m leaving the current job or not.

[ionic atlas]

Are you in america?

[pine delta]

Yea

[ionic atlas]

in a city?

[pine delta]

Yep

[ionic atlas]

yeah that will do it

you will either have to drive an hour or compete with a gazillion other people

[bright aurora]

I drive an hour ½ 1 way to work. But it appears today's gonna be a bit longer

[pine delta]

First set of stealthmax parts sent to the printer!

[pine delta]

Newly discovered. Need to avoid 150mm/s. That’s an annoying sound. Lmao.

[pine delta]

That's not terrible.

Plate 5 will take 13 hours… that will be a true test of the microwave for sure.

@graceful bloom First off. Second. Have you printed Stealthmax yet? If so. How long for that carbon basket? (I seem to recall you talking about it at one point)

[graceful bloom]

i have not so i cant say

also hai!

https://tenor.com/view/heart-cat-kitty-cute-gif-11087999

i have been summoned

[pine delta]

Dang. Now I wonder who I was talking to about it… lmao.

[pine delta]

Welcome to the Microwave build. Lol

[graceful bloom]

ive talked about the pritn time just never actualy pritned it

[graceful bloom]

yay!

[pine delta]

Ahhhhh. Fair.

[graceful bloom]

yea :3

[pine delta]

Well it’s about 1.25 days of print time for all of it for me. Lmao.

[graceful bloom]

its a while for shure lol

[foggy trail]

It took me 16 hours for SMS.

[pine delta]

Total or just the carbon basket?

[foggy trail]

Just the basket.

[pine delta]

Made me concerned I had my settings bad somewhere.

If you had said total I would’ve been very confused. Lmao

[foggy trail]

Also, I’d suggest switching to slicer painted supports on the lid piece. 3/4 attempts failed after 1 hour and 1/1 worked perfect with slicer support.

[pine delta]

Which lid piece?

[foggy trail]

The big ring with bracket

I don’t see it in your plates yet.

[pine delta]

Ah. The one I need the X1C to print. It’s too big for this printer.

[foggy trail]

Everything should fit in a 250mm printer.

[pine delta]

That part does not fit on 250x242. Lol

X1C is my next biggest at 256x256. So it will fit there.

[foggy trail]

Rotate 45 degrees after the export?

[pine delta]

Tried that as well. Also didn’t fit. Lol

[foggy trail]

You did not want the flow chamber in [a]?

[pine delta]

I only get 1-3 hours with the silver once it’s out of the dryer… 😅. It’s that hygroscopic. Lmao.

[foggy trail]

Wow.

That is a short time.

[pine delta]

Indeed. I pulled it out of the dryer once, got side tracked, threw to print in the microwave just 4 hours after pulling it out and it was wet again. Lmao. I’m buying a spool of gray next time.

Screw metallic colors. Lmao

[foggy trail]

You may want to enable the fan wire plug in your flow chamber export.

[pine delta]

Yea I saw that. I also saw a spare one in the stl list. I may just print the spare one to avoid any printing issues.

[foggy trail]

I hope the built in support works well for you on the flow chamber. Both prints I have done have had some detachment but it made a useable print. (They are stock)

[pine delta]

So far in prints I’ve done I haven’t had an issue with built in supports on anything. In theory. I only need the supports in the middle round area to survive. The front ones I think CPAP has enough power to bridge that gap.

We’ll find out Monday how it goes. Lol

Plates are named for when I feel I can print them without having to listen to the printer while I sleep. Granted it’s quieter than the X1C, I still don’t want to listen to it while I sleep.

[pine delta]

Print finished well! All the latches work except for the one I broke taking it off the plate.

[bright aurora]

Orca has a feature for that too lol

[pine delta]

Yep. I will be using it. Lmao.

[bright aurora]

Lol. I would too

[pine delta]

So satisfying to watch 27³ just screaming. Lol.

[pine delta]

I need to design a cover the screen… it’s pretty bright when the printer is just sitting idle.

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-archer-cyril-top-gun-need-for-speed-gif-15099775

[bright aurora]

Have you ever thought about setting up Timelapse on the Microwave if you havent already

[pine delta]

Yep. And I don’t really want to

[hollow hemlock]

Timelaps is very cool and i want to post videos of prints and such, but given the quality degradation, feel like recording then popping it into an editor would be better. Mine can do stop motion/time laps. Though there is the file size issue with long prints

[pine delta]

@foggy trail For future reference. Stealthmax S holds ~1.5lbs of 4mm pellet carbon. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

So much carbon! Lol. Did you test it to see if it would corrode the metal?

(just asking because i think i saw you went with something other than nevermore)

[pine delta]

This is carbon tested by others before me to be safe.

It’s acid free and safe for printers.

[hollow hemlock]

Ohhh gotcha, big brain.

Is it cheaper than nevermore stuff?

[pine delta]

Also nevermore carbon is out. Like. Everywhere. Lol.

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-no-noooo-gif-7347380959994097336

[foggy trail]

These guys will do smaller quantities as well. https://activatedcarbondepot.com/products/zeolite-hs-600-60-lbs-1-cubic-ft

Just email them.

[pine delta]

That’s who I bought from. Just via Amazon to get it fast.

https://activatedcarbondepot.com/products/thermally-activated-granular-pellet-carbon-for-3d-printers-and-laser-fume-filtration

[foggy trail]

That should be the same/similar to scorch

[pine delta]

Do you have a link to the temp listings for different temps and what to use?

[foggy trail]

The mix ratio?

[hollow hemlock]

Price aint bad nice

[pine delta]

Yea per temp in the chamber.

[pine delta]

It’s worse on Amazon. Lol.

But I wanted it quickly.

[foggy trail]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/358033202578 this is also one of the vendors here.

[foggy trail]

https://kb-3d.com/store/linneo/1040-nevermore-scorch-filter-media-multiple-sizes.html

[hollow hemlock]

As all things are XD. I got my nevermore stuff on sale from west and it was about that so a smidge more for amazon tax is probably still good lol

[pine delta]

I found the ratio's in the nevermore discord. Lol

Then my phone died.

I'll try and print in the 50-60c range for now. Perhaps in the future I'll get scorch or whatevers similar

[pine delta]

That’s gonna get hit with import costs isn’t it…

[foggy trail]

I just did a 50:50 mix of my bag of filter food and filter food prime (DFH).

[foggy trail]

I think it starts in the US so 🤷‍♂️

[pine delta]

Yea but they are in Canada. 😅

[foggy trail]

The carbon is made in China though so that gets tariffs.

[foggy trail]

Shipping a US made product back over the border.

Where the product matters, not where it was shipped from.

[pine delta]

Plans for today. 1) Install stealthmax and get it powered somehow (I have no idea how I’m gonna get 12v other than to redo the firmware on the M8P to have a fan port stay always on and set to 12v) 2) Fix these stupid graphs 3) Perhaps make my first resonance post.

This didn’t work even one time back on the CB1… I can now load the webcam view on my phone via mainsail. I am also at work so tailscale ftw.

[pine delta]

Never underestimate a $1 knife. 🤣. Cut right through the ACM. Lmao.

Quick test for before going on the printer. Absolute perfection.

[pine delta]

Okay. Plans for today have ended. 2 and 3 will wait for tomorrow while the stealthmax sensors calibrate.

But. Got the Stealthmax installed!

Right on the side of the printer where I said it was gonna be. Lol

[hollow hemlock]

Honestly those 1 dollar blades are nuts as long as the plastic hasn't broken yet. The blades do rust but they work quite well

[hollow hemlock]

BTW a note I missed when I built mine, and didn't see it at all in the CAD the first time. These holes are for mounting the filter to the frame.

Kind of looks like you did it already, but I full on missed it when I built mine and run it just hanging there for a HOT minutes XD

[pine delta]

Yep. I already figured that out. Lol

My only concern now is that something may up with the sensors. Perhaps swapped by accident somehow. Or something else. Cause this is during calibration period and according to the docs should be around 100 in the end.

And I feel like that should be reading roughly the same when no fan is on and it’s just sitting idle.

[pine delta]

Eh. Can always just go get another $1 knife from harbor freight anytime. Lol

[hollow hemlock]

Do you have the carbon basket and stuff out of it? (It's been a while sense I did it but I recall you taking it out and airing out the printer)

[hollow hemlock]

True. I'm a sucker for a good knife though lol

[hollow hemlock]

mine of course has the basket in with very used carbon, probably time to switch that out, but mine are almost never the same on the in and out

Even when the system has no basket and fans off

[pine delta]

I did see to air out the printer. Which I haven’t printed in a couple days so that wasn’t a problem. No where said to take out the carbon though. Mines fresh carbon though too

[hollow hemlock]

Just looked at it, didn't see it either, probably just remembered wrong. Apologies. It actually said to open it air out then close it lol.

I probably had taken mine out due to having to recalibrate it.

[hollow hemlock]

How long have you been calibrating for?

[pine delta]

Going on… 21 ish hours now.

[pine delta]

I might take it out and see if the exhaust value drops. May redo the calibration if it does.

[hollow hemlock]

I'm trying to remember my setup. I do recall some stuff that I thought was weird, but exactly what made me feel that way I can't recall sense I wanted to get back to printing XD.

But either way, might be worth checking. It's also probably good to note, that the prints are newish and might still be offgasing more than expected.

I think I noticed with mine, just over use, that sometimes the values when idle can be strange especially when I first had it set up

[pine delta]

I’ll probably do a print first anyways. I wanna see if the sensors do read correctly and show increasing values appropriately.

I’m gonna run the checkpoint command here in a bit and run a print. I know from reading the docs it’s constantly calibrating when not printing and doesn’t restart calibration until ~15 minutes after a print finishes.

[pine delta]

Lol. Ours are reading about the same atm.

[hollow hemlock]

That is wild, considering my carbon is very used and if I stick my head in the printer I'm 90% sure I'll still get a good whif of chemicals XD

[hollow hemlock]

I actually forgot it did that, it is a very nice piece of software, for it's use it does well. (even with the disconnect issue)

But thats probably a good idea. Reality I guess is, that it's all relative numbers, and as long as it turns on and off when it should, your good to go. Mine right now likes to stay on a lot due to the old carbon I think.

[pine delta]

Yea. But I wanna be sure the numbers at least actually do what they’re supposed to do. Lol.

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rookie-abc-gif-26012228

Eh, gif wasn't the best choice but works XD

[pine delta]

Need to play with settings but sensors work. 🤣 . IPA in the air was enough to increase the VoC index

[hollow hemlock]

Lol Seems to be in working order then XD

[pine delta]

Started a print anyways. Quick Voron cube to test out the new build plate and the sensors.

And the filter itself ofc.

[hollow hemlock]

You have it printing at max speed?

https://tenor.com/view/hedance-toothless-toothless-dancing-toothless-meme-dance-gif-14128243928382947300

[pine delta]

Nah. It was never meant to do max speeds. Lol. It’s barely using the full capability of Goliath.

I wonder if I have them swapped somehow...

Need to take out the carbon and blow on the exhaust one to find out

[hollow hemlock]

So pretty much what mine will be on chube lol.
Is Microwave going to be your "stable" build?

[pine delta]

It is and has been. Lol. It's the printer more or less to replace the X1C

[hollow hemlock]

DOWN WITH BAMBU

[hollow hemlock]

Very odd..

[pine delta]

Looking at most of the pics in the nevermore server it seems that the larger VOC index value is consistently on the right... But that doesn't make sense to me since that would be the exhaust which should be cleaner...

It does seem to be working though!

Seems as though only the values on top are swapped. Which is weird

[hollow hemlock]

Now that you mention it, I had the same thought myself. but kind of just got used to it.

Though I guess in a way it makes some sense if you consider it is pretty much in static air while the intake isn't... IDK though, it's confusing

[pine delta]

I feel they should be flipped. Since the first value should be the incoming air and the second should be the filtered.

[hollow hemlock]

I do too, but I'm trying to I guess find the reason. The way I'm thinking is that once the air is cleaned and back into the printer, it will have a bit of a lower VOC, because volume and it being well. clean, so then in turn the intake, with the larger volume of air, is reading the way it is

So air quality might actually be better, but given the volume of air might be the issue

[pine delta]

Okay. My chamber is definetly hotter than the thermistors are reading...

[hollow hemlock]

That's no good XD, or good depending on what you consider. Better temps or wrong temps XD

[pine delta]

A little of both. 🤣

Cute little flexi stitch print.

[hollow hemlock]

I'm going to need that file XD

[pine delta]

How'd I know someone would say that. 🤣 https://www.printables.com/model/1521513-flexi-stitch

[hollow hemlock]

I have so much stitch stuff so it would have to be me XD

[pine delta]

Same. Lmao

[hollow hemlock]

LOL, for christmas, along with some tools, I got stitch earbuds, PJ pants, and a little stitch light thing. XD

[pine delta]

Oh yea! @hollow hemlock The Stealthmax has a serial now! SMS.018!

[hollow hemlock]

NICE, you got a fairly now number too! Though I don't know how many actually know you can get serialized...

[lean panther]

Only 18 cereals?

[pine delta]

Not many probably know you can serial you filter.

[foggy trail]

Also, not many build the S. I have SMS.17 on #1317678719485083748 and it has been many months since a serial was issued.

[pine delta]

Aka. My serial was the very next one. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

I'm not sure how many even know of the nevermore discord, let alone using the seriel request XD

[pine delta]

OH! In good news now! I can finally run the Goliath at its full flow if I want to! I needed to wear in the UAP as it was a little rough for the extruder to turn. After a few prints it’s back to its full function! Purging at 25mm/s is hilarious.

~60³ flow

[wheat cave]

And there's me happy with 18

You must have cat like reflexes when watching that🥰

[pine delta]

There’s a reason I have an emergency stop button.

[wheat cave]

Ohhhhj🤭

[pine delta]

There’s also a reason Hexdent has had to have an emergency stop switch replaced…. You wouldn’t imagine the reaction timing you need to stop a printer that does 1200mm/s at 70k accel when it just skipped a step because you forgot to mechanically sync the motors. 🤣

[wheat cave]

Oooooooo😬

[pine delta]

That was the same time Hexdent ejected a rail stop across my room… it was a rail stop mounted by hammer head t nut in the extrusion. It was at that point I realized that thing is barely touching its maximums. Lmao

[wheat cave]

I need to learn this stuff
I think ive got comfortable

[pine delta]

Take Sub0. Give it 5160 drivers, 56v, and a Chube. Voila. You’ve learned how to be crazy.

[foggy trail]

This sounds almost like #1317678719485083748 message

[pine delta]

Only it’s crazier cause 40³ build volume going brrrrrr would be just hilarious. 🤣

[foggy trail]

Oh, I know!

Did you see the video of M0 that Zruncho posted?

[pine delta]

Yes. It’s how I know Hexdent needs some work. 🤣. Not even tuning work. Just testing of its maximums finally.

[desert jetty]

5160 say 48v will they take 56?

[pine delta]

Btt TMC510T pro are rated for 60v. I run them at 56v.

[pine delta]

That’s not the pro drivers

[desert jetty]

Found them Thankyou!

[pine delta]

These are what I run. https://a.co/d/fIdbJhr

[slender ibex]

sounds like a joy to share a space with

[wheat cave]

Working on the brrrr this time😋

[open elm]

Not everyone sits directly next to their printer all day long :P

[slender ibex]

Something tells me that is audible throughout the house

[desert jetty]

I’m thinking that’s a HOA violation

[slender ibex]

Of the HOA seven houses away even

[desert jetty]

Lmfao

[desert jetty]

Wait till your cooking in the morning and IS is running and you watch your breakfast rattle across the table lmfao

[open elm]

Depends if your house is made from paper or bricks

[slender ibex]

Straw

[desert jetty]

The big bad wolf blew mine down

[pine delta]

The first tall print on Microwave 2.0!

This may or may not be something adorable that @hollow hemlock will probably want the link for.

[pine delta]

@hollow hemlock what a good test print for height! He’s adorable!

Tail came out great too!

200mm tall

[bright aurora]

Now how much room is there under the bed after that print

[pine delta]

About 10-20mm.

Z build area is ~210-220. I haven’t figured out the absolute maximum.

[bright aurora]

Cutting it real close (as my Mini finishes a print.with 1mm to spare on Z 😅 )

[pine delta]

Lol. I’ve done 120mm prints on the v0 before.

[bright aurora]

The MiniSB toolhead just broke from a collision on my V0 so now im waiting on a printer that can print ABS to arrive

[pine delta]

Ouch

[bright aurora]

It arrives Thursday lol. CartoV4 arrives today though

[bright aurora]

Last print before it broke though. Lol 30k 15mm³

I like the noises it makes with interpolate off

[proven sapphire]

It's slightly quieter than before I spent the 4 hrs for chopper tune to do its thing. But man, I miss my old deltas, which could be silent.

[pine delta]

Homing after that print was annoyingly slow. 🤣

[hollow hemlock]

I was thinking it might be a pikachu, but a stitch pikachu was not on my list, That is adorable

[pine delta]

Here’s the print: https://www.printables.com/model/1546343-stitch-in-pikachu-costume

And now I know what I’m printing next. 🤣: https://www.printables.com/model/1546379-pikachu-in-stitch-costume

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/dear-god-soldier-tf2-soldier-tf2-gif-7977085984093123408

Their adorable and I for sure need a toolchanger/mmu 🤣

Though i do have an airbrush now that I wanted for this purpose.... Need to get that vent fan already XD they're so expensive

[desert jetty]

Print one!

[pine delta]

You know what’s really cheap and readily available? OUTSIDE!

[desert jetty]

lol trees they are everywhere they love the paint fumes to 😁

[hollow hemlock]

But it's getting cooollllddd then probably really hot XD i did use my fume extractor i have for soldering but its a bit small XD

I'd do that if I had a decent unused fan that wasn't already slotted for use...

[pine delta]

Well you do have a 3d printer that could print a temporary housing for a filter to be able to borrow a fan on the occasion you want to air brush something. 😉

[hollow hemlock]

That is indeed and option... Hmmm need to power the computer fan unless i can find a random fan we have and dont know about 🤣

I've been needing to get back to learning cad too...

[fervent zephyr]

The outside is trying real hard to not be available rn with the windchill

[pine delta]

Nah. It’s the 20+ inches of snow coming.

[hollow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/it-fucken-wimdy-its-fucking-gif-24928261

[hollow hemlock]

*cries in slush likely coming)

[pine delta]

Btw. (totally not cheating by measuring the snow drift on my balcony)

[bright aurora]

technically i got negative snow since the ground is ice and crushes down an inch when stepped on

[pine delta]

Odd question @raw sorrel . Is there a UAP looking toolhead for Chube Air? I love the aesthetic of UAP but kinda want a third Chube. Lol.

[raw sorrel]

Nah chube would be tough to integrate with how wide it is

[pine delta]

Dang. Fair. Guess I’ll stick with 2 Chube’s and a Goliath for now then.

[hollow hemlock]

That's a lot of snow! Even if that the drift, its more than I see normally XD

[hollow hemlock]

Same, hours turned to solid ice sheets

[ionic atlas]

Yes there is

El fuego

There is a non water cooled version as well

[molten bluff]

Aire Fuego (Air Cooled Version) should be done this weekend. Just fine tuning the jet ports and plate cooling and it takes forever at 8hrs per CFD run

❤️

[ionic atlas]

Yeah i have been struggling with the cfd stuff as well with my setup

It takes ages

[pine delta]

Not really what I want. I want a printed toolhead. Easier and cheaper for me.

[ionic atlas]

Scarecrow has one but it is ugly

[pine delta]

Hence why I asked the creator of the toolhead I like. lol.

[molten bluff]

I honestly strongly recommend an SLM option for the toolhead @pine delta it is so incredibly important to have a strong, rigid toolhead. Unless you only plan to print at sub 200mm/s, in which case, ball out my friend, ball out

[pine delta]

Yea my toolhead is plenty strong printing at 600mm/s. Lol.

[pine delta]

It always feels like it’s in a rush now. Lol

[ionic atlas]

Yeah slm is also very nice for things like chube conduct.

[ionic atlas]

Btw uap v6 is out now. Aren’t you on v4 or v5?

[devout depot]

Wat is UAP

[modern cloak]

https://www.printables.com/model/1353685-uap-v6

[ionic atlas]

you ought to switch to monolith and a 4040 frame

[bright aurora]

Why? Lol

Its not exactly a large machine

[ionic atlas]

because

[bright aurora]

Thats not really a reason

[devout depot]

Reason enough, Xiar nuke the machine and dump 300 more hours into it!

[lean panther]

Nah xiar machines are great to point to whenever the 2020 noodle allegations fly

[pine delta]

I’m aware. I prefer the look of whichever I’m using. I am using a couple parts from v6 though.

[pine delta]

Just. No.

Monolith is not the answer to everything. I’m perfectly happy with ATSS nema 14 AWD.

[raw sorrel]

(whispers in your left ear) "but it can be my child"

[bright aurora]

Usually I'd say enough Donuts may be a fair trade but that dosent really work with Xiar

[pine delta]

@whole dagger Scroll up for wiring photos

[wheat cave]

Not bad for a 15cm ruler🤭

[pine delta]

@soft zenith Personally. I'm currently happy with Y. But not X

At some point I'll figure out what's going on here

[lean panther]

@whole dew

[pine delta]

Huh. After calibrating sync motor's I have now 3 times in a row gotten results below 1k magnitude. Nice

[soft zenith]

Ayee, so what if I where to just get two more matching moons 17's with round shafts for ease of syncing?

[pine delta]

That'd work pretty nicely. Moons are nice and smooth.

[soft zenith]

And wiring it up, I'm sure if I upped the run current on the stock drivers, they could each run two motors. But I don't think that's a great way to go about it

But that's how dual z used to be done and you sync them up once and as long as they stay aligned they aren't bad

[pine delta]

Definitely don’t do that. You need 1 driver for each motor. Especially for motor sync since it forces one motor to turn on each belt to sync the belt tension on both sides of the motors.

If you’re currently using 2209 drivers 2 more won’t cost much.

[soft zenith]

Yeah that's the drivers I'm running

[pine delta]

v2 with a toolhead board should have enough driver slots in the mainboard to run 8 motors.

vT can run without a toolhead board and still only need 8 drivers.

[soft zenith]

So the kit is like $13, I need belts that's like $20-25, I'd really want to get a CNC carto mount, that's like $20 I'm only missing the driver's, motors and wires

[pine delta]

You don’t really need a CNC mount. I’m not using one.

[soft zenith]

M8p 2.0 has plenty of extra slots

[soft zenith]

Yeah that's a want tbh

[pine delta]

As long as you have a toolhead board you should be good. (Assuming you’re doing this on a v2)

[open elm]

Good printed carriage > cheap cnc mount

[pine delta]

Plus printed means you can make changes if you decide to change something. Lol.

[soft zenith]

The CNC mount directly from carto is $20

[pine delta]

Plus shipping. Lol. It’s nice. But a printed carriage works just as well.

[open elm]

Sure for 20lb of tension then printed might fail easily

But for everyone else printed works fine

[pine delta]

My only printer with a metal carriage is Hexdent however that’s because the entire toolhead is metal cause conduction hotend. Lol

[soft zenith]

Yeah okay so maybe later then lol, so $13 for kit, $25 belts, print new mounts, how much are TMC 2209 stepper drivers?

[pine delta]

18lbs belt tension ABS-GF carriage survived for about a year till I replaced it cause I wanted it to be metal. Lol. It definitely wasn’t happy when I took it off but it had no issues.

[pine delta]

Pretty freaking cheap. Check Amazon or West3d.

[soft zenith]

These are West 3d prices for everything else lol

One shipping cost is a plus, or a roll of ambrosia

[pine delta]

Roll of ambrosia is always the way to go

Might I recommend the PCCF? 😆

[open elm]

And for belts .. closed loop my beloved

[pine delta]

KB-3D sells those here in the US.

2.4m in one belt. I dunno if that’s enough for anything larger than a 250 though. May need 2, one for each axis.

[open elm]

If you spend money, might as well spend it right

[open elm]

350 with monolith will work as well

[pine delta]

1 belt for both axis?

As in 2.4m is enough for 2 belts?

[open elm]

1 belt per axis

(If i remeber correctly)

[pine delta]

Ah. Gotcha. I dunno if one belt will even for a 250 anyways. Lol.

I know it will in the v0.

[open elm]

I doubt it

[fervent zephyr]

I don't think it will, barely enough for micron but there's a bit of extra, don't remember how much

[pine delta]

Gotcha. So anything not PFA needs 2.

[fervent zephyr]

almost definitely

[open elm]

And they are well worth it in my experience

[pine delta]

Wonder if the v0 will have enough for belted Z. Lol

[fervent zephyr]

300+ 100%, 250 99% sure

[open elm]

My trident has almost no belt walk since installing them

[pine delta]

I have none right now.

These are the belts from my trident 350 before I put Hexdent on it. They were plenty long enough for a AWD 250. Lol

Not bad print time so far. Lol