Voronica — The Crackhead 2.4 (300mm Monolith AWD)

[knotty berry]

Beautiful

[glacial tinsel]

that cable gland mount looks strangely familiar... dont mind me I am trying to track down the clicky clack door+monolith panels files. What did you use for your final product? because it looks really nice.

[glacial tinsel]

ahha never mind I found your post in the monolith discord.

[rain swift]

Awesome any feedback is appreciated!

Progress remains slow while we wait for smol Chube to get here. Then I can lock in for more gantry adventures!

It’s as easy as just shoving a female JST housing on DuPont pins

More sexy torx titanium

I think the last of monolith BOM hardware is finally here. Plus 15mm aluminum standoffs for carbonara diet plan(thx @wicked storm)

[wicked storm]

Very nice

[rain swift]

Ok back together after redoing some wiring. Hopefully no MCU disconnects on extended prints

New Glamor shots since this is the most “complete” the build has been… before I tear it down for an overhaul next month😅

[wicked storm]

Is this with the new carbonara hardware

[rain swift]

Not yet, hopefully this weekend if I don't forget! I am annealling your new inserts printed with PCCF tonight!

[wicked storm]

Noooice

[rain swift]

I MISSED THIS. LOVE OVERKILL BARF. Finally got it working after talking about it so much...
Didn't like the available solution so I whipped something up with my limited CAD abilities (took many weeks)
I wanted to retain OG Stealthburner Sized Voron Logo and carriage style mount while keeping a stealthy blend so the body won't look obviously different.
Still need to print OG SB size voron logo face plate and diffuser. May play with faceplate some more since it kinda looks boring. But really happy with how it turned out

[wicked storm]

Fyi the xol people hate when people put the voron logo on it kek

[rain swift]

oh man i had no clue, whats the lore

[wicked storm]

It's their work, I wouldn't like someone putting their own "brand" on my tube like they made it

[wicked storm]

Also the A4T, it's DWtas baby

[rain swift]

yeah thats fair I didn't think about that 😭

[rain swift]

That’s a lot of work to save 4g 😅 ( @wicked storm )

Updated Inserts (Al+Ti ) - 16g

OG Inserts (brass + Ti) - 20g

Updated with 2x 15mm aluminum standoffs instead of brass. Annealed PCCF (97% infill). Don’t remember it being this tight of a fit, had to pull out the vice to press everything in. That thang ain’t goin anywhere! I think last time I used a hammer 😗

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[wicked storm]

Yeah, but it's just to optimize a bit, not an upgrade

[rain swift]

That’s the same answer I tell my fiancé when she asks why my printer is always down 😇

[wicked storm]

Hehe

[slender mural]

I’m glad someone else thought about using the aluminum standoffs to save weight as well.

[wicked storm]

ye i made the new bom just to be a little nicer

not really for huge weight loss

[rain swift]

unless someone finds titanium ones... 👀

[rain swift]

While the toolhead was off, did some tidying up:

Finally got rid of my zip-tie endstop striker! The lever on the endstop rattled like crazy, previously I just slapped heatshrink or foam tape on to silence it. Someone mentioned a while ago suggested to just remove the lever all together and use a precision striker. So we did just that! Very satisfying!

A little bit of cable management - ran out of tiny zip ties but sleeved cables all flow smoothly without looking like a tangled mess (:

And first time testing out quick release belt clamps on @snow basin 's new XOL carriage! No issues there, preserved belt tension and saved us a step! So far loving this feature!

And toolhead mass check -299g

And finally some Carbonara Optimization!

Installed new BOM inserts as well as removed the spacers.
Additionally rail was mounted every other hole like stock.
Initial: 407g
Final : 383g

A total savings of 24g off the X gantry! @wicked storm

AND WE BROKE INTO 9K Y MZV!!!!! - a 200mm/s2 gain (probably a fluke or error but 9K baby!!!!!!! we'll take it!!!!)
2020 stock - 8.5k Y #1376437613233307712 message
stock carbonara - 8.9k Y #1376437613233307712 message
optimized carbonara - 9.1k Y

[wicked storm]

oooo

24g is a lot

have you noticed a difference?

[rain swift]

Haven't really tested anything else, I'm pretty sure this thing is maxed out now and I'm all belt limited

[wicked storm]

maybe i should make tube helpers for the stock screw patten

[rain swift]

Got started on monolith today! No idea what I’m doing, literally just opened up the CAD for the first time today😅

no guides, no tutorials just good vibes 😗

[sweet trellis]

Good vibes is all thats needed but if you get stuck just ping me 😅

[rain swift]

Thank you appreciate it! Already had an oopsie, countersunk wrong face on rear motor mount. Its now double countersunk lol. Its functional but ugly I have to get a new one made .

Also had the tumbler explode all over my garage so that was fun haha had too much stuff in the bowl

[sweet trellis]

feel ya ive got a counter sunk hole thats on the wrong side too

[rain swift]

First time using a tumbler was cool!

1. Unfinished 2. Deburring wheel 3. Stone wash finish after tumbler. 4. Tumbling without Deburring

Yeah tumbling wasn’t going to be the magic one step for all I was hoping. Gotta grease up my elbows 🥲

[rain swift]

Sidetracked: haven’t found a strain relief step I liked. But I’ve always seen some people run their toolheads without strain relief/pugs which looks so clean.

So why not? let’s get rid of the ugly pug(:
@snow basin CNC ebb36 mount already has what we need to try it out - just layered heat shrink and zip ties(:

Yeah… I had a cnc PUG adapter for some reason that thing was heavy!

[rain swift]

Nevermind if failed - I see movement transferring to the connectors.

Now with isolation between frame and the micro fit connectors

This looks like a better idea when I switch to wwbmg https://www.printables.com/model/1158928-wwbmg-ebb36nh36-pug-mount

[rain swift]

Werk Werk Werk - there we go the secret sauce was actual manual labor 😭

[rain swift]

Our first family portrait (:

Mocked everything up - most processing is done. Ordered some new pieces for the ones that didn’t come out perfect. I may have gotten carried away with the counter sinking! Most of it is hidden but knowing it exists bugs me !

Also found a way to get 5mm spacers instead of stacking 2.5mm ones thanks to the guys on mono channel!

@sweet trellis I hate it hahahaha

[sweet trellis]

But the parts are looking fire sofar!!!🔥

[rain swift]

Feeling a little something different for the next year….jk finally started a little work on the v0 again

[rain swift]

I like to think the cable sleeving helps structural integrity 😂

This behind shot also looks kinda naughty. But I’m really liking the tear shape wrap around as straight relief

[long gull]

A white v0 frame😍🤤!!

[rain swift]

Hope I haven’t spoiled the secret color theme yet haha

The frame hasn’t been touched in months since I’m slowly self sourcing everything (which I think is done, but we’ll see) 😇

[rain swift]

WWBMG with dual omron filament sensors. Printed w ambrosia PCCF 100% infill. Super rigid! Swapped over bondtech RIGDA gears from the Sherpa. End weight a little chunkier but so worth it!

Didnt use the side PUG since I broke it.

[rain swift]

Live idlers coming along - didn’t order enough pulleys 😭

[rain swift]

XOL -> 4AT w/ filament cutter

Still had the dragon uhf cowl I printed a while ago so why not. Smol chube cowl also ready to go whenever that gets sent out. so temp toolheadsetup for now.

It was a very pleasant build compared to XOL.

No more cnc pcb mount nor cnc extruder. All PCCF 100% infill (may try PIF settings for weight savings?)

Ignore ghetto PUG 😅

+30g -1k IS ouch 😭
(Cutter ~ 17g, dual filament sensors ~ 7g)

[worldly sentinel]

Sexy

[rain swift]

We got live idlers!!!!! This was fun figuring out and satisfying when it all came together!!

I used 100mm ejector pins but was worried about leaving ugly cuts so tested to see if I could leave the head part - wasn’t very pretty so off with the head!

Damn i only bought enough pulleys for the 4 motors, I need 2 more if I want to test out Monolith 2WD too hmmm

[rain swift]

Rear tensioner stack ✅
XY Stack ✅
Front Motor Stack ✅

All that’s left is to wait for the last 2 2504 Monolith round shaft motors to come in!

Currently running 2504 D cut motors - not sure how significant the mismatch is but better safe than sorry! Maybe I can throw these on the v0 😅

[rain swift]

I’ve never had a printed gantry so this was a new experience

Realized I need to start the monolith conversion in order to salvage 6mm gantry parts to continue the v0 build!

Originally wanted atleast one working printer when doing the conversion/build - too bad for me and poor planning 😭

[sweet trellis]

look good 🔥 .. but no #1259699805693808681 :O

[rain swift]

I saw that! but I can only handle 1 gucci build at a time hehe, I keep starting projects that I haven't finished

This is going to be a PLA machine for my fiance and I don't think she needs crackhead speed (Yet)

@sweet trellis also is this thermistor setup going to work? Or should I bend it so the thermistor body is in more contact with the stepper?

I don’t really want it to be visible hmmm

[sweet trellis]

yea that looks great!

maybe rotate the thermistor 180 degree so that its fully on the motor and possible add some thermal past

[rain swift]

Tear down and conversion begins!

Been super nervous to start because if I missed something important I’ll have to get a third printer

And v0 inside v2 meme snap hehe

[rain swift]

All laid out on the ole granite slab and some closeups of CNC ATSS 2WD + frankenstein light XY joint vs AWD Sheetmetal Monolith

Can't forget the titanium and gucci bearings!!!!!
Mock-setup with aluminum hardware - 82g
Semi-final setup with all Titanium - 74g

Sidenote-Currently using TI m3x40 socket head instead of button head, and m3x6mm on the live idler bearings just for weighing purposes, placed an order for correct TI hardware and will use aluminum version in the meantime

Y Rails regreased and completely buttoned up - I ran out of m3x8 because of this (I think I will do the same to the Z rails)
And also repositioned them to hide my scratched up extrusions from all visible surfaces hehe

[sweet trellis]

that looks awesome with the neon green bearings!

[rain swift]

More gantry work

@snow basin ‘s CNC rigid Zs - I knew this day would come and I’d have to address it, may have to hack these up or hope M3 hardware will suffice 😭

Front motor wiring - will be sleeved of course!

@sweet trellis what I meant to hide the thermistor - will prob use thermal cement or paste to interface the two. Maybe a heat sink on top hehe

Now for the hardest obstacle I’ve come across - color theme!

1. Keep it clean and stealthy with hints of blue

2. More blue more personality

3. More black more stealthy

4. Or hella in your face blue and bold 🤔

[slender mural]

For #1317678719485083748 I went 1 and I really chose where you saw the accent color. I also did a bunch of work hiding as much wire as possible.

[rain swift]

Also my tried and true default style for everything! Been thinking lately I play it too safe all the time and maybe should try something new

[rain swift]

Also do you have an invite link to stevebuilds discrod you mentioned? I couldn't find it

[slender mural]

I DM’ed you the link.

[slender mural]

I’d go with the stripped sleeping then.

Or use the solid blue where you want to draw attention.

[sweet trellis]

Looking good!

[plain prism]

there's still time

love the colours though
very

[rain swift]

Haha yes thank you for your help with that! It’s perfect! 😁
V0 progress has been slow but very fun to build! (Except I might go crazy if I see another “preload m3 nut”

tulip is definitely on the radar! But for after getting familiar with the stock v0 first hehe

[rain swift]

Carnage of the Gantry rebuild and initial squaring on the granite slab

Titanium backers - should I keep this black or strip it to bare Ti for more bling bling?

Since no laser cut service stock 5mm alu sheets, I had to settle with stacking 2.5mm spacers which aligning sucked - someone in the monolith discord mentioned glueing them together a while ago and holy crap it made life so much better! 10/10 recommend!
(note: i'm still trying to get the 5mm pieces cut... maybe jlccnc)

When shawty look like her dating profile pictures

Rough gantry all squared up and racking was perfect even

[rain swift]

New Z chain mount to help manage AWD wiring

9mm EPDM Z belts - purely for esthetics 🥲

This belt clamp aligner thing is amazing! A single 4400mm belt split perfectly into 4x1100mm belts zero error!

Cute Monolith Z clamps printed in PCCF

[rain swift]

Motor + thermistor harness = homemade Kraken 😁

[rain swift]

Had to get matching monolith 2504ah motors hehe… now I have 6 2504…. Guess I’ll donate it to the v0 😁

[rain swift]

Trying to be like @wicked storm with new cable ducting and these euro style terminals to clean up my electronics bay.

Need to terminate

1. Mains power
2. 24v rail
3. 48v rail
4. CANBUS terminal

I think I need to vertical mount the PSUs for more space

New screen mount since I broke the current one. Lookin like a Nintendo switch!

[rain swift]

Some more sheet metal parts I wanted to redo

[rain swift]

Close up of monolith full travel protrusion - couldn’t visualize it for some reason but it worked out!

• note I can’t do my carriage squaring trick with these mounts since it doesn’t allow the carriage to slip between in thru the middle 😭

[rain swift]

Brushed finish on the Titabium backers! 😍

Note - sanding titanium sucks it eats up a lot of sand paper

[rain swift]

Old endstop setup with @snow basin's XOL mount - graduated from the ziptie!
Hopefully not too hard to recreate with monolith

[snow basin]

Just put it anywhere on Y rail )

Instead of toolhead

[rain swift]

I like how clean and stealthy this looks haha

[rain swift]

Onboard 5160t pro for now - I think I may get standalone drivers eventually. May need to add another set of noctua 4010 to the octorays/octoglasses since I got an overheat warning once running IS back to back a bunch of times at 2.5a

Belts ran

[rain swift]

And she’s alive! No magic smoke! (jk crashed at the end because molex broke)
Took a while to figure out the config and get everything to play nice without documentation - the ah-hah moment that clicked was realizing the gantry is now literally flipped so X motor on back right and Y is now back left 😅

Now onto housekeeping stuff to tidy everything up

[long gull]

Home Y first. If the Toolhead is at the very front you'll smash the Part Fan (a friend told me 🙈).

Looks nice

[sweet trellis]

Yep thats how its done with awd

[sweet trellis]

Looking AWESOME!

[rain swift]

Thank you!! Any other tips to keep in mind? I know nothing about AWD haha been just figuring it out as I go

[rain swift]

Thank you!!! Yeah I broke the extruder tensioner arm this morning

[sweet trellis]

Ho and use the sync motors klipper macro! Makes awd so so much easier to use

Requires an adxl on your machine and you run the macro after homing and it will sync belts for you

[long gull]

https://github.com/MRX8024/motors-sync/tree/main

[rain swift]

New all metal bondtech RIGDA V2 gears and west3d cool plate 😍

Been dreading this - time to clean up this rats nest

[long gull]

Where is the ebb TMC heatsink?

[rain swift]

New board, I fried the other one 😅

[long gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[rain swift]

May need to modify and make this wider to accommodate the sleeving

[rain swift]

Thinking about endstop integration - monolith Y endstop plus the Z chain cover (also found in monolith channel)

But some flush cutter action on the current piece for clearance 😂

[rain swift]

Modified @jade bronze umbilical side mount to be as flush as possible for WWBMG

Plus another style that should bolt up to @snow basin’s XOL mount - I’m getting this made in SLM currently from JLCNC

[rain swift]

And we have monolith! Initial AWD Monolith IS after motorsync!

[rain swift]

AWD guys really do have more fun - who let me play with 2wd for so long?
15k 165mm - so mesmerizing. conservative speeds but I'm content. Waiting for smol chube to dive into fine tuning.

Surprised AWD 48v at 2.5A is barely even audible with linneo double pane PC panels for fridge door
No mods to the fridge door needed - worked flawlessly with full travel monolith!

[snow basin]

@rain swift can you please remind me what IS result you got on 2WD?

[rain swift]

300mm 6mm gt2 EPDM 2WD with your double shear. Belts around 175hz. 300g toolhead. Carbonara with no inserts/stock rail mouting pattern. 48v 5160t pro 2.5a

Let me know if that helps!

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[snow basin]

Awesome! Thanks! Trying to find some data. Just had tests on my gantry v2.4, 9mm GT2 belts, 48v 2.4a

Will work on improvements like carbonara next week

[rain swift]

Very nice! I wonder how far I wouldve gotten with your new gantey!

Should I send you mpx ATSS 9mm 2wd? I never got to use it and don’t think I’m going to be build a third printer anytime soon

[snow basin]

Thank you, but I have more printers than time at the moment 🙂

Monolith gantry is many years in tests and developed cycle, while mine just couple of months. So I would not be surprised if Monolith performs better

[rain swift]

I still have the 2wd monolith plates - I'm very curious how it performs.
But I'm too lazy to make the 2 additional live idlers that it needs 🤣

[analog fiber]

@rain swift #vendor_promotions message

He said in armchair he still has airs in stock

[rain swift]

is this real? its cheaper than smol chube

[analog fiber]

Yep I think so

[sweet trellis]

Wow

[analog fiber]

That’s Canadian too

[rain swift]

Had no idea they made kirigami bed in other colors 🥲

All good though - some high temp paint and she cute again! Maybe the v0 build will be done by 2027 😗

[rain swift]

Lots and lots of monolith housekeeping to do since its such a major conversion!

-Dinky X endstop striker - wanted something lowkey buts so ugy its stands out. and so little material lets see how long this lasts
-Y end stop + monolith version of hartk z chain thing - made it modular for printability
-Tried out this pre tensioner thing that was cool
-lil laser cut 1.5mm spacer for test version of vitalii's carriage instead of using a bunch of shims that flew everywhere during maintenance.
-Found a new pattern for sleeving but it doesn't stand out as much - maybe that was the lighting
-no more ldo 4040 round frames for 300 sad bois ):

[rain swift]

Finally made a cover for those 2020 braces to hide the wiring like I've been saying for months -finally stopped being lazy!

Glad the motor wires + thermistor wires sleeved was still just enough thicc that it can be tucked into the 2020 extrusion channels nicely

And since I keep making problems for myself - tucking the motor wires on top means I can't mount the filament cutter striker - this is what I came up with for now - using the front motors as a base!

MORE CARBONARA? oh wait nvm just carbon element for the filter

[quasi bridge]

Looking good! Makes me wish I would have gone Sheet Metal on my new build… but I’m just doing metal XY joints.

Also, love the Z chain mount!

[terse nexus]

They had to have lost money on that lol

Such a good deal

Sad I missed it

Is there a reason for the double z drive carriages?

[rain swift]

Oh thank you! Really ties it in nicely! Although I just broke it 5 mins ago (wasn’t printed with PIF settings 🥲)

I really dig the chain look even tho most of the wire inside are sleeved 😂

Sheetmetal was super intimidating at first but it ended up being very fun and a good learning experience!

[rain swift]

It looks sick af !
Jk I think one SLM or CNC joint set does 99% what it needs to , I otherwise noticed no gains just Z loss, more consistent QGL, but terribly annoying setup process!

[terse nexus]

I bet it was pricey too for the z rails.

[rain swift]

Yeah I kept going back and forth over it and takeoff but ended up keeping my smol chube order - atleast I’m not doing a tool changer so no loss for me 😗

[terse nexus]

Lol

Yeah I may have lost 400$ on that one...

At least I can think that that 400$ went towards convenience 😫

I probably don't need any more chubes anyways. Next printer is probably going to be a real all out build of my own design with all cnc/slm and no extrusions

[rain swift]

Just used my stock formbot rails and ordered extra carriages relatively cheap! But when I go 4040 as my next thing I would want more Z for full travel with it (or beyond if I wanna do what Jakob is doing)

[terse nexus]

Yeah I like jakob's setup he is doing. I guess formbot makes consistent rails because everyone told me I had to get matching rails and blocks lol

[rain swift]

Yeah also could’ve saved money bc I ended up replacing with all west zerker for also no gains ( I have pattern of this 🙃) but now a future build is possible 😁

[rain swift]

Also did you get the LDO corners on sale?

[terse nexus]

Welcome to my world... I just got full airtac for my z on SCal

[rain swift]

Stock height right? And Is that big money I’m not familiar but I’ve seen that name thrown around

[terse nexus]

500mm z rails so a little longer. Belts are basically the same length

Z and y are airtac and x is motion perfect

Motion perfect is so expensive

[quasi bridge]

Nice! Yeah, I uploaded those files to the Monolith server awhile ago. I do like the look of cable chains, so I modified HartK’s design for the lower, and created the top piece.

[quasi bridge]

No, sadly not. I actually ordered a set two weeks ago when they were showing in stock… Then I opened the box and they were grey corners. I wanted to cry when they said the blacks were out of stock… so now I’m just waiting for them to get more so I can exchange.

[rain swift]

Been learning a lot about belt mounting lately when all I wanted to know was: inside loop or outside loop?
Using vitalii's early revision xol mount - we spaced out from the carriage 1.5mm - which I've now learned is not the 2.2-2.3 monolith spacing. (I got 2.24 from monolith cad)
Looking at my belts I can see an inwards bow towards the rail - sounds like an easy fix but sounds like I should wait till everyone agrees before I order custom spacer from SCS

Our belts should have been broken in by now after some printing hours! Time for IS testing!
Charts cleaned up a little bit! Looks like we still have room for improvement according to belt diff and noise

[rain swift]

SLM WWBMG parts from jl3dp- very impressed! First time doing this process so some mistakes. I see now how I can improve and optimize parts with my next order since some of these keep original dimensions they ended up chonky!

[rain swift]

Pretty much perfect fit - but heavy.

Next plan is to study the cnc Sherpa and try to skeletonize/optimize where I can

Keeping the front piece printed since I want dual filament sensor and have a nice esthetic 😅

The PCB mount is way overkill - I can trim away some fat with a grinder no need to remake I don’t think

[rain swift]

Remade my motor harness thicc and girthy - first time around they were lanky and dumpy. The Z chain is so full but neat

Finally ditched the carto for beacon! feels gud to support . Dollar store wig vs Full salon blow out you can see where the effort went haha

[rain swift]

thats ALOT of pink zipties - does that mean we're finally wiring up the v0.2?
-No because why did I go into this project thinking I can reuse all my v2 parts?

Not happy about the sleeving - it turned out to be a Neon pink - not our pastel pink - tbd it clashes very strongly

Why did I waste 50 bucks on a picobilical kit when I have extra ebb36 to use for CAN

Liddo pink flower knobs on matching Keenovo bed heater hehe

[rain swift]

Just a little electronics optimizing right?

Monolith vertical UHP mounts to free up some space.

Trying it those UK termination blocks. So far I like.

A little carnage to the ACM panel while remove those cable ducts….

Oh my god what have I done

[terse nexus]

It looks great! Is there a reason why you wanted to cram everything on the bottom instead 5050 split with top and bottom or sidepack?

[rain swift]

Unless I’m going all out tool changer I want minimal changes in foot print since this is replacing a tiny Bambu x1

And have to keep it living room friendly /not look like a commercial factory machine to keep the fiance happy with it

[rain swift]

And thank you! I only recently (beginning of summer?) started learning about experimenting beyond stock/bom voron for my first diy build. So no concrete plans just winging it day by day!

[rain swift]

Funny enough, you reminded me I had these and I wasn’t about to crimp all the JSTs back o my motor harness just to cut them off again…. So I started making
Room….

[terse nexus]

External drivers just look awesome

[torn bolt]

Every time I see the wiring. It reminds me of mine

[rain swift]

Gimme that skateboard grip tape lookhad extra heavy duty textured vinyl from lining my garage toolboxes

Mainly wanted to convert to Horizontal Electronics DIN rails since the vertical orientation never made sense to me and these seems more space efficient

Rare v2 underbelly shot lol - wish inverted electronics for v2 was a thing - that hooded bed mod? Is any good?

[terse nexus]

Hooded belt?

[rain swift]

This time I'm going to sleeve the underside wiring - some... not all... for now I think. I got a different blue/black one I posted earlier. It looked better in pictures but we'll see. I used it to sleeve the beacon cable to run alongside the one we have

[rain swift]

https://mods.vorondesign.com/details/TmE2ogJM6EYetii4uD1GQ
Never actually seen a build with it in the wild

You guys make me want to change my profile image to my tabby but i've had this one since 2016

[terse nexus]

Man wtf is this

[terse nexus]

What is your pfp of?

You should go for 79° chamber temps

Get one of Wayne's new "spooky boxes"

[rain swift]

Down the line for sure maybe after 4040/4020 conversion or when I get back into car parts. I still have one I made for my Bambu in order to print my initial voron parts hehe

[terse nexus]

Lol

I no longer have my x1c

It was replaced with a qidi plus 4 and it wasn't missed

[rain swift]

Ruff draft of placement
-may have cut motor harnesses a little shorter than I’d like - no longer that center vert ducting
-to have box of duct including alongside fan skirts like before
-switch to double banked uk terminals - maybe for motor
-I have a bunch of 5inch DIN rails to be creative with.

• usb hub(s) in that bottom spot?

I probably should’ve printed the external driver mount before starting 🤗

[long gull]

You can still print (or have someone print) the driver mount 🤪.
Which ones do you use for the external ones?
I only know of those or individual ones for a separate DIN rail.

https://www.printables.com/model/1172197-din-mount-for-btt-octopus-pro-4x-btt-tmc5160t-plus

[rain swift]

https://www.printables.com/model/988001-btt-tmc5160t-pro-awd-mcu-board-mounting-bracket-fo
sir duck mentioned this one I think. I think I wanted to measure my clearances once I mocked everything up cuz its gonna be tight how I envisioned
I'm gonna zip tie them to cardboard in order to print the mount loooool

[long gull]

Ok it's basically the same thing, just green🙂.

It's a shame I don't have room for external drivers (and I don't feel like rewiring everything 😅)

[rain swift]

oh yeah and print a fan case for it too since their basically the same right?

[long gull]

Just put the fan over it and you're done. I'm not a fan of putting drivers in a closed case.

[rain swift]

https://www.printables.com/model/871454-btt-tmc5160t-plus-case#preview.ShDMH
even like this one?

[rain swift]

sawzall go brrrrr or 4040 time

[long gull]

Yeah, something like that.
It's a bit too closed off for my taste. But everyone's different.

4040 no longer fits my frame due to the outer dimensions 😭.

[terse nexus]

I ended up getting the solid heatsink ones on sale. 8 for the toolchanger setup.

[long gull]

That would be the more sensible option for me as well.

[rain swift]

Guys it’s not Black Friday anymore @long gull @terse nexus

[terse nexus]

They aren't cheap anymore lol. They were down to 31$ a piece and now they are back up to 60-70

[rain swift]

Oh what I didn’t realize that’s how steep the cut was

[terse nexus]

Yeah I got bullied in the monolith server because everyone had thought I spent 60$ a piece

[true spear]

I'd like to ask you to avoid using that term on this server. We attract a very neuro-divergent community and the phrase is offensive to many. If you could change the word to something else it would be appreciated, otherwise the post may be removed

[terse nexus]

I am sorry. I am 59 years old and only recently has the term been so offensive to people

I forget

[sinful wharf]

Its been a good like 15, 20 years now

Just saying

[long gull]

Well, that's just how it always is with a hobby😅.

[rain swift]

Im an idiot, this was all SLM stainless steel - thats why they're so heavy
JLCNC only does SS or TI I just found out

[long gull]

PCBway is the secret 🤪.

[rain swift]

thanks got a few to try, JLcnc just added tariffs and wild shipping on when I attepmted a new order

[long gull]

Yes, Trump has really pushed his policies through, and the little guy has to suffer 😪.
Unfortunately, it's no different for us Europeans when we want to order something from the USA 🥴.

[sweet trellis]

yes kinda maybe. us tarrifs only apply to americans and not for us ordering from the us

[long gull]

Then the items have only become more expensive because the customs duties are passed on to the products 🤷🏼‍♂️.

[sweet trellis]

anyways lets not talk politicts in here 🙂

[wicked storm]

I might need this ..

[terse nexus]

It is awesome but probably a bad idea. There is a reason why the ideal material for an extruder is milled peek

The mix between the bolted milled and printed parts can become a nightmare at higher motor temps

Heat transfers through the motor and into the gears/filament much faster.

[rain swift]

If I ever get a bondtech I think Burgos sells an SLM Lgx or something with peek filament line

[terse nexus]

No I mean the whole extruder milled out of peek

Titanium is better than nothing but not exactly ideal. I have one of the slm repacks on order

It was an impulse purchase with tricorn

I have some peek blocks that were scrap from work that I might end up doing something with

[wicked storm]

Spacers

Plastic screws

Gg

[terse nexus]

Not perfect though 😕

[wicked storm]

Peek screws gg

Got some here

[sweet trellis]

yea they are great

well worth the money

[terse nexus]

Why not peek screws and peek extruder?

All peek

[wicked storm]

Ugly color

[rain swift]

My 17mm extruder motor was crazy hot which wasn’t a problem when I had my CNC Sherpa. But my 20mm 6t extruder motor just came in so I don’t think heat will be an issue. Still waiting for smol chube. I’m gonna get this piece remade in SLM Ti after I skeletonize it some more. The main WWBMG is still printed pccf so I hope that should be okay for now.

Main reason for all this is mmu compatibility + esthetics or else I would’ve gone takeoff (which may end up happening anyways). I saw SLiM XOL a while back so I may play with that or try to do a a4T version with my basic cad abilities lol.

Toolhead hardware is all Ti so hoping heat transfer is minimal.

High accel/speed printing is still new to me so I’m still figuring tuning - haven’t outrun my 4010s yet and I absolutely hate CPAP haha

[rain swift]

Paint

Electronics overhaul is a lot more work than I thought and progress has been slow with the holidays.

24v into Manta and 48v straight to standalone driver? @terse nexus

Got the correct PSU for the v0 but wrong outlet/switch 🥲

[terse nexus]

Should be correct

You can get a new resistor for those external drivers

So you can have usable rsense

[rain swift]

dang I just placed a digikey order last week thank you

Voronica — The Crackhead 2.4 (300mm Monolith AWD)

[rain swift]

These are cool! 😍 Goodbye ugly 5-pin JST @slender mural

[slender mural]

I don’t think that is my design if those are the FYSETC ones.

[rain swift]

oof my bad! That's embarassing I'll have to check when I get on a computer. Got you coffee instead!

[slender mural]

I don’t get anything either way for the design so I really don’t care.

[rain swift]

Can’t have that!

[slender mural]

I’m not in it to make money, only to make the world a better place.

[rain swift]

Noooooo made these nice and pretty after cutting to size and adding exhaust cutouts just to discover this major oversight. Turns out white was the wrong color choice when it’s up against black skirts. Ordered black cable ducting but holiday shipping sucks ugh.

Added some grommets for the cutouts in the ACM panel. These panel edges are sharp and sketchy. Round grommet in a square hole was meh but it’s secure, function > form I guess

From Black Friday haul - Finally found my Goldilocks electric screw driver!!!! Stronger than those tiny 3v pen ones but tame enough for M3/M5 hardware without destroying them! No more lazy sketchy impact driver action heh

[rain swift]

Do you know What problems I will face with running stock resistors? I saw people talking about it in mono discord but I haven’t really looked into it much. I put in an order for 0.075 ohms ones, should I just wait till I change them out before using the externals?

Also ordered SLM clamp from in3dtec so ignore my earlier ping 😅

[terse nexus]

I don't know. This will be my first time running external drivers

[rain swift]

Sunon fans for the external drivers - 12v + Tach since Im planning to run them independently (not on board)

Gucci west3d F623 bearings for the v0

LDO 6T nitride gear motor since I destroyed the brass 8t with improper meshing (woops)

[rain swift]

Hi I’m Denald and my hobby is starting projects that I don’t finish!

V0.2 - keep ordering wrong parts w/o realizing until too late. Fiancé not very motivated.

Formbot Boxturtle kit - I’ve had since MAY 🤡

V2 electronics overhaul - Trying to be clean and cohesive. Pretty much every wire is being remade due to length differences and janky crimp/sleeving mistakes.

-Good example is my inconsistent and sloppy exhaust fan wiring where I tried to reuse the noctua sleeving and stacked a bunch of heat shrink that made the run super stiff. Now they are trimmed, joined, extended and sleeved as identical as I could manage cuz symmetry is sexy 🥴 ( still WIP until I get final measurements)

Z Motors - Replacing and sleeving these awful Moons motor cables that disintegrates if you blow on it.

And finally My car is also overdue for an oil change I’ve ignored for 2 months heh

[rain swift]

CAN U SEE DA VISION?!
Self sourced v0.2 starting to look like a printer finally!

Mounted ACM bottom panel wrong way - but may leave it like this and sleeve the bed umbilical (no cable chain)

Elite power switch mounting - no questions asked.

And first start with mains power - no magic smoke! Then turning the SKR Pico into a can bridge Using this waveshare CAN Transceiver.

waiting for some more stuff

• white heatshrink tubing to complete the pink sleeving
  -ebb36 gen2 to start wiring toolhead
  -a working v2 to print rest of the skirts

[rain swift]

https://www.printables.com/model/988001-btt-tmc5160t-pro-awd-mcu-board-mounting-bracket-fo

Pretty much remade this external driver +Manta moutn from scratch since editing the stl kept crashing my computer.
Simplified it and shifted the drivers 12mm to the left since they will hit my Z motor.

[rain swift]

temporarily wiring up the onboard drivers to print some stuff before finalizing locations and wiring length

such a big difference still compared to before!
As well as successful first start up since the tear down - no magic smoke but btt canbus cable took a shit (zero continuity on both the 26awg wires - trimmed like 12 inches from both sides and didnt' even eliminate the break GGs BTT)

Which reminds IGUS never shipped my chainflex cable from over a month ago - so I can make a CAN+USB umbilical with all 20awg....

[rain swift]

Zero motivation until the correct black duct ways came.

Grommet didnt work lol - so reused that stock sheath thing that came in the formbot kit. Bedtherm and Bedfan cabling sleeved together more tidiness.

Have this hard fystec build sheet magnet - which I will absolutely not use either with that logo (magic eraser /ipa, acetone didn’t work) .

My magnet sheet had a hard clear layer on it initially until one day I printed on it directly and ripped off 🥲 (blessed by bedmesh gods - no issues from this)

Don’t be me the idiot using too long hardware in the wwbmg fugging up the gear meshing.

Keep in mind, this is the wear in 2 weeks of light use.

Some 6T nitride gear vs 8t brass gear
Let’s see what damage I could o with the 6T hahahaha. About 13-15g difference between 20mm and 17mm motor. This difference was not worth the heat from the 17mm

[rain swift]

Forgot that I got the flying cam setup working before I broke my printer.
The footprint is alot bigger than I'd like, but its the only camera module I have good experience with so for now WIP.
(built in heat sink and all, so hopefully doesn't get cooked by heat bed https://www.amazon.com/Arducam-Autofocus-Lightburn-Security-Engraver/dp/B0DBTK235K

[plain prism]

she's looking beautiful
i want to do a similar build
also i believe you were interested in this skirts?
https://www.printables.com/model/1538496-v02-wide-boy-skirts

[rain swift]

Again, thjank you and appreciate you! would love to see another one. build is very very slowly coming together. 😅

Wiring Saga continues: New years

Should've known doing too much at once = disaster. Low motivation since I encountered an almost impossible-to-solve klipper error w/ useless logs while doing a bunch of mods:

1. Beacon Install
2. Complete Wiring overhaul
3. External Drivers

Ripping out a bunch of the new wiring, multimetere checks etc ... ended up being remnants of cartographer settings/macros during carto->beacon conversion. bummer

Also had a funny thing where crossbow blade detached and was stuck in cut position while the arm fully retracted- leading to me unable to load filament (behaved like a clog)

Also got my combo monolith-hartk umbilical thing working nicely (y endstop + chamber thermistor). Although its a little crooked... lol

Any smash players see R.O.B. resemblence?

[rain swift]

and I'm still terrible at SMD soldering. Prob shouldve tested them first as is. yolo

[terse nexus]

I love that. Do you have files?

[rain swift]

Here ya go I just combined the monolith Y endstop and the chain mount @quasi bridge uploaded
#1228991033681903698 message

[long gull]

@rain swift What's up, is your build finished?
There hasn't been an update for a few days now 🤪.

[rain swift]

Wiring sucks haha low motivation rn so no progress really. Honestly just waiting for smol chube and some SLM parts to get here

[long gull]

Why does this seem so familiar🤣?
I'll have to replace the gantry soon, though 😪.

[rain swift]

The voron curse 🤣 @long gull
Printer down
PC also down for maintenance

[rain swift]

Too many projects at once 🥲

[terse lake]

Nice bimmers

[long gull]

It's looking pretty good already 🙂.

I still have some work to do, there's a problem with the Mono r0... so I have to install the r1 before getting the CNC parts 🥴.

[rain swift]

Start a build log already hahaha
What are the differences? I haven’t followed the changes in revisions
And what filament are you using for this?

[rain swift]

printed D5 pump bracket printed in PETG 2 years ago on my lil Prusa mk3s - 1st thing I ever designed after watching a bunch of CAD tutorials

[long gull]

The R1 has a live idler, the R0 still has regular pins.
Building a build log isn't worth it anymore; my printeris too "old" and has had too many modifications. 😅

I only use PC PBT GF for all important parts now.

[spice aurora]

How much did you spend on this machine?

[rain swift]

Finally got 8ft of IGUS chain flex CF9 to make my CAN+USB umbilical! Only took 2 months direct from IGUS 😭

7x20AWG wires - going to split the ground
Diameter is 7.5mm

Not sure if I’m going to wire this now or wait for smol chube so I can do full toolhead overhaul

External driver mockup - soldering the rest of the resistors went better than the first 👌

Blue PCCF was wet but should be functional for now

Cheapo 3010 fans for now hopefully not too loud since they are always on if wires directly to the drivers

[rain swift]

Prob 2-3x the amount of the X1C it was suppose to replace 😭
Half of it was just me messing around and testing different configurations/mods haha.

[rain swift]

Would still be an interesting journey to follow since it’s refined build! I hope to get to that point one day haha

[spice aurora]

That’s… less than I expected! You were going for the fancy, high-end parts almost everywhere. Mine was only lightly modified (Rapido Hotend, EBB36 CAN bus, LDO super power motors) from the original BOM, and it still costed 1.75x of an X1C.

[rain swift]

Haha that’s what I get for being stubborn and not doing research!
Didn’t have a clear direction in the beginning so I was just throwing stuff at it. But now also seeing other quality builds and what people can do definitely influenced me and gave me new ideas/goals to work towards.

But no regrets I learn by actually doing things myself and it was fun! Made new friends. Gained some new skills I can apply outside of 3d printing too!
100% worth!

I can probably still recoup some money from selling parts I’m not using / or start another build I’ll never finish 🥲

1.75x for now - that’s a solid setup until you get hungry from the mod bug hahaha

[long gull]

I still have quite a few pictures, but summarizing 2.5 years in text again... phew, no thanks😅.

[winter loom]

Did you have any trouble with the hole spacing on the 5160 + Octopus mount? I had to mod it to fix the spacing

[rain swift]

I have a manta m8p v2, I remade the mount in fusion and posted a step file a few posts up - it’s only mocked up for now so haven’t tested it yet

[winter loom]

When I printed it, I found the 5160 plus hole spacing was just slightly wrong. I fixed it and posted it up as a remix to that original file

[rain swift]

Same, but I didn't change anything from the original, this worked for me and everything lined up well

[winter loom]

Blue was original for me and yellow was my modified file

In any case, glad it lined up for ya

[rain swift]

haha ty and nice, I prob shouldve gotten a cad of the driver instead of relying on the stl, thats way more legit

[winter loom]

It's pretty cool BTT posts the cad of all their boards. Makes custom stuff way easier to make

[quasi bridge]

Have you shared this mount, or would you be willing to? My current mount keeps loosening, and it’s driving me crazy

[rain swift]

I uploaded it on printables I’d have to find the link after work!

SLM goodies from in3Dtec! This time in aluminum and not stainless steel 😬

A skeletonized WWBMG - inspired by the Burgos SLM bondtech extruder

Mgn12h belt clamp

SLM A4T crossbow adapter

+1mm Z motor tensioner

And my ebb36 mount but more optimized compared to the first time I made it!

[quasi bridge]

Damn!!! Do they do a black coating like that?!?

[rain swift]

Oh just bad lighting, I wish 😭
Need to do a little post processing on them

[quasi bridge]

Oh no kidding! They look black to me, and SOOO good!

Great work on that! I’m curious to see how they perform, and the weight comparison.

[quasi bridge]

I found it - thanks, again!

[rain swift]

Just for fun: when I accidentally ordered SLM stainless steel instead of SLM Alu 😭

Insanely heavy

Note: my wwbmg and cutter adapter have custom holes for a pseudo titanium skeleton between the parts 🫡

47g for SLM alu WWBMG housing

iirc I think metal housing for fystec Sherpa was 35ish grams

[terse nexus]

That finish looks amazing?

How did you do it?

[rain swift]

It’s still the raw finish! I plan to clean up the surfaces with a sanding block and then run everything thru the tumbler. I’ll take before and after close ups later

[terse nexus]

that will be awesome

[rain swift]

If you got a chance to try it do you have any feedback?
I made a newer one for SLM printing which is way thinner which Ill have to upload when I get time

link for future reference if anyone else wants to take a look https://www.printables.com/model/1514138-tucked-wwbmg-4at-pug-mount

[rain swift]

Was a little off with guestimate fystec sherpa housing was ~24g

Some RAW extruder closeups - lots of post processing to do.
Hopefully it even works haha

@terse nexus

[quasi bridge]

I have it printed, but haven’t installed it yet. It’s going on my cursed printer, and I’m taking a break from it right now lol

[quasi bridge]

Are you going to use the metal ECAS fitting?

[rain swift]

EBB36 gen 2 - not sure if I should switch at all for a few reasons

-XT30 vs MX3 connector
-taller board - (will likely have to make my own right angle adapter )
-Both CAN/USB require this adapter board

[gleaming valve]

I had one then it stopped working. It runs very hot but it’s normal it’s rated for like 150c or something. Not much difference really

Also cable that comes with is inverted compared to old Biqu cables to double check polarity if you plug old cable

[rain swift]

Did you think it’s worth switching to? Thank you for the heads up not sure what I’m going to do with it since gen1 works fine as is

[long gull]

If you already have a U2C board installed, you do not need the second PCB.

Gen2 is 75° ratet

[gleaming valve]

For fan config and connector sure but otherwise no not worth it.

[rain swift]

Damn black raceways look so goood! Still a bunch of small details to address but happy with the outcome so far. Before picture for reference.

Definitely bit off a lot more than I could chew with an electronics bay overhaul. Slow progress and Zero motivation last few weeks but little by little finally got her in a functional state again!

[rain swift]

Initial run and moving steppers meant my soldering of the sense resistors on the external drivers was great success

But the always on 24v cheapo 3010 fans was insane! Really didn’t want any more wiring projects but I had these 12v Sunon fans I had to make a splitter for into a single fan header on the manta. Waaaaay more quiet and turns on only when in use.!

Finally had time to get tach working for most of the different fans!

[rain swift]

Started making a CAN+USB umbilical before a gen2 ebb36 landed in my hands. Is single USB with passthru for beacon the way?

Definitely don’t want to keep making harnesses from scratch - might terminate the xt30 to a microdot anchored on the toolhead before it goes through the pug

Trying out this angled XT30 before I make my own - it’s pretty stiff so not sure exactly how the routing will go. It’s short so it will terminate before it gets to the exhaust I think.

Current one was made by hand and way more flexible

Another decision roadblock 😭

[rain swift]

Spend lots of money and time on sheetmetal gantry. Buys CNC gantry anyways. Stonks

Where’s my gawdamn chube mini Bruce

[sweet trellis]

yeaaa haha 😆

i spend like 200€ on sheet metal (maybe even more) and a good 100€ on the printed gantry for the v2 only to replace both with cnc 😆

[gleaming valve]

Where did you manage to buy it?

[rain swift]

West3d!

[rain swift]

Now what to do with the tumbler and giant drill press 🤣

[sweet trellis]

oh the drill press is still usefull!

best tool i bought in a long while!

[gleaming valve]

Nice placed pre order I guess they ship before end of April as UK site says 2nd half of it

[sweet trellis]

could have ordered from #onetwo3d-🇬🇧-🇪🇺-🌐 ^^

[gleaming valve]

It says it’s out of stock there

[sweet trellis]

yea they havent opend orders yet

[long gull]

🤣

[jagged coral]

With parts you want to reduce weight, have you tried modelling these and using generative ai to design the strongest lightest parts?

[terse nexus]

Which parts?

With toolhead design it is difficult because you have to maintain a center of mass

[jagged coral]

Any parts that are moving, I’ve not had ago at it because autodesk is expensive and the generative Ai features are not free. You can model the parts or import a step file, then set the parameters e.g the dimensions it’s not allowed to change, you can also set features like centre of mass. It then removes or adds material where it’s needed.

It’s probably better to use SLM or sls as they don’t need supports so you won’t have to design a part to be 3d printed like fdm.

[terse nexus]

I have access to generative AI but I have never used it. I might try and get a younger guy at work to help me figure it out

Issue is that any moving part needs center of mass calculated for it and I don’t know if AI does that. Otherwise you would have a vzbot situation

[rain swift]

A lil maintenance and tidying up before cnc mono party!

Then oh no what do we see? Belt damage ): No wonder my tension was getting wonky!

this scenario was always at the back of my mind but to actually predict and then see it happen is nutty. And Prematurely as well! these belts are relatively new. Bummer but now wet get an excuse for 9mm closed loop EPDM!!

Luckily a Boy Scout is always prepared!

SLM monolith universal belt clamp! Switching back to my old Vitalii CNC carriage (with a little drill press gore).

Look at that teeth engagement! Got lucky and found these belt clamp designed for cartographer carriage that ended up working without any changes - however there are some necessary tweaks that have to be done.

We just barely was able to clamp past the break in the belt fibers for now…

[sweet trellis]

Oh damn, sucks that the belt got damaged. But thouse tight 90 degree bends on the carriage is something gates does not recommend ... for a reason like it seams

[rain swift]

Haven’t ran one of these in a long while. And shes back one last time!

[rain swift]

Thank you luke and audrina for letting me do a last minute order change before smol chube production starts since I can’t ever make up my mind 😬

Smol chube -> medium chube

[knotty berry]

Lmao nice

[terse nexus]

I have seen a lot of people cancel compact orders lately. 99% of gamblers quit before the big win

[sweet trellis]

Oh nice joining the big leagues haha

[cold scarab]

Hi, first of all congratulations about your amazing build, I'm looking towards this same path good aesthetics 2WD so let's see how it performs

[cold scarab]

Ohh wait 4WD, it's that Monolith CNC right??

[sweet trellis]

thats Monolith Sheetmetal

[cold scarab]

It's better than CNC?

[sweet trellis]

sheetmetal is harder to assemble, depending on where you source the part either cheaper or more expensive then cnc

but until now it was the only available metal option

[cold scarab]

F.e in a local laser company ATSS it's 58€ without shipping included

[terse nexus]

Atss is a lot simpler than sheet metal monolith. It is nearly half the parts and you don’t have to do nearly as much work to get everything to fit compared to monolith

[cold scarab]

Yeah I saw that yesterday, ATSS isn't rocket science

In terms of performance is a big difference between ATSS and Monolith

[sweet trellis]

atss has a lot longer belts then monolith so yea you wont be getting the same performance from atss then you would from monolith

but at this point i would not bougher with sheet metal and just buy a cnc kit

[cold scarab]

Yeah I saw there is a ATSS CNC kit

[knotty berry]

He ment monolith CNC

[rain swift]

Yup it was definitely a learning experiment as I had no idea what I was doing when I started. Just randomly trying things and upgrading as my needs/wants change. Started with atss 2wd and progressed to mono sheetmetal. Then CNC mono whenever that gets sent out! Sheet metal is a big project (prob more expensive than CNC if I factor in time and money on tools etc). And I'm still not quite happy with my work (small imperfections here and there). CNC is the way to go less headache!

[cold scarab]

Thanks for your reply and I'll take for sure that into account for my build

[terse nexus]

as much as atss is nice i don't think it is worth it over printed monolith. If you have the money cnc monolith is the way to go

[cold scarab]

So even printed monolith is better than CNC ATSS?

[terse nexus]

Considerably

[cold scarab]

So that's a way to save money

[rain swift]

When’s the endgame if I keep pushing the goalpost 😭 are you still going el fuego? I’m currently anti cpap. I startinf to research more optimized toolheads

[rain swift]

Currently watching CNC trinity development hehe, are you still using the calamities?

[terse nexus]

Yeah jakob just ordered a silicone cpap hose to hopefully cut down on the noise. I hope it works because if it does I might consider trying cpap again

[sweet trellis]

yea my trident is currntly in pieces .. doing some general TLC and adding all the right holes for cpap/elfuego.

like Hank said i ordered a silicon hose that should be pretty damn quiet

[terse nexus]

The calamities are all on my farm printers atm. The toolchanger toolhead was delayed from a chinese holiday so one more week for that.

[sweet trellis]

and the ws9290 is going in my steel electronic box with some basotect for sound dampening inside

[terse nexus]

I am sending a cnc trinity to hydro to test when I send him the G2 repack

[sweet trellis]

so ideally i would not even hear the cpap fan at sub 50% speed

and i also have some anit vibration standoffs in my aliexpress shopping cart that im gonna try and integrate into the dinrail mounting solution

[rain swift]

1 Year later finally started assembling my NSB boxturtle (300mm frame width). Never thought I would see this day 🤣

-all parts should be printed - fingers crossed

-a bummer thought: it won’t match anymore if I go 4040/2040 doom soon but if I the matched that then I can fit a 5th spool in there!

[rain swift]

Got a happy notification today! But also forgot to remind myself to get new closed loop belts... as well as the first piece the next project (:
True 300 cubed legggo

OCD me hated 280mm build volume. no real NEED for it but I can finally scratch that itch and then some !
For when I get chube + takeoff or trinity hehe

[rain swift]

Think I found a nice sleek blue to add a lil personality to voronica!
Polymaker fiberon ASACF. Voxel midnight blue was too dark, Ambrosio blue PCCF was too vibrant

[rain swift]

Forgot about this thing in the closet!
He’s alive and conscious!
Wired up 3.5 waveshare LCD as well as EBB36 gen2 THB in USB configuration.

Then I find out I have to disassemble part of the frame because I can’t cleanly peel the ACM panel 🥲

[rain swift]

It’s beautiful! 🤩
Too bad closed loop 9mm EPDM is backordered. My current belts might disintegrate if I disassemble 🥲

Is there a tutorial? Is this the right printer? How do I install this?

Jk but also found out my fiancés sister also just got a free printer from her company 😭

[gleaming valve]

Great news you got it. What are them purple cloth pieces are for haha.

[rain swift]

I think just to lift the pieces out without scratching. It’s a nice detail wasn’t expecting it

[gleaming valve]

Fair can't wait for mine. Also you putting it right at this time or you gonna wait?

[rain swift]

Nah my current belts I barely was able to mount due to a tear. It’s holding tension and graphs are good for now but It might disintegrate if I disassemble.

So I’m waiting on new closed loop 9mm belts from @grand smelt since they were out of stock everywhere else. Thanks to some recommendations from monolith guys

[gleaming valve]

How do you plant to mount closed loop belts on Vitalli3D carriage?

[sweet trellis]

oh damn thouse belts are a minute away from snapping, especially the lower one

[grand smelt]

You cut it

The belt

The reason to get a closed loop belt is they are cut straight, so your belt does not walk as much.

[gleaming valve]

Ah fair i thought u just mount it the way it is somehow without needing to cut which sounds awesome 😄

[grand smelt]

It wouldn't necessarily give any benefits to have a complete closed loop, and it would also require the belts being added during assembly of the Gantry which would be a pain

[rain swift]

I switched to universal belt clamp and used an adapter

[rain swift]

Yeah I had to pretension up to like 180hz just to clamp past that area temporarily. My fingers did hurt a little from pulling even with the tool hahahahahahha

[grand smelt]

Belts should go out tomorrow. Just got them packaged up quickly before I leave for my trip.

[rain swift]

Thank you have a safe trip!

[rain swift]

Hexagon bestagon! Love it when vision becomes real and doesn't clash! Original acm was brushed alu (wasn't aware I could get white). Wrapped white then layered with transparent hex pattern

@slender mural correct direction this time! your words no longer haunt me hehe

[real remnant]

when are you going to get that left fan duct properly assembled on that anthead?

[grand smelt]

Belts arrive?

[rain swift]

Working on NSB BT SpoolersGrey trigger mount looks like boogers will eventually reprint

Working with CF filled ASA is not very fun, hands definitely starts itching after a bit - glove up!

[rain swift]

In honor of voron's cascade release a few weeks ago....
Decided to pull the trigger on a desktop CNC, specifically the Makera Z1 Pro!
I've always wanted to learn how to machine - good thing my fiance's father is a retired machinist! (for medical parts tho)
No DIY CNC since I don't know wtf I am doing and I don't need another project lol

maybe I can machine some parts I had planned to get SLM printed hehe TBD

[rain swift]

Thank you for fast service! And the only vendor in stock!@grand smelt

Closed loop belts came in! Can finally knock out the CNC conversion!

[rain swift]

Some puzzle pieces came in for the next milestone. Finally ready to join the big boys!

Next: structural panels or no? Fiancé and guests likes to watch the printer go brrrrr
-Also not sure if I want to go top electronics since I’m already adding 50mm to Z

Decision fatigue is real!

Also… This will be a complete frame and I’ll have a spare 300mm v2 frame sitting around…. Is there a Toolchanger in my future????

[rain swift]

Just realized one year ago today Voronica was serialized!

[gleaming valve]

Very nice. From features it offers looks like good entry cnc machine for small projects.

[grand smelt]

NICE

I need to get a cnc to do awsome cnc slm stuff

[rain swift]

Very excited to learn and ready to graduate beyond dremel and angle grinder “machining” 😬

[rain swift]

CNC gantry swap was such a chill experience with the built in alignment features! No stress at all.

LDO 4040 Doom corners +50Z came to complete the 4040/2040 extrusions
Set. Not yet sure how I want to do the panels yet so currently going through builds

[sweet trellis]

built in alignment features
yea right? lasercut gantry was a giant pain in that regard

[rain swift]

YEA and no matter how much you try it was never quite perfect

[sweet trellis]

yea lel

they ammount of pain it was to get them right

and cnc just .. works

[rain swift]

Also started working on all metal wwbmg. It looks so tough!

Now I know what to expect to SLM processing. Bearing holes reamed due to shrinkage. Had to reduce some of the alignment features that relied on flexing of plastic.

Good news gears don’t bind and rotate/mesh freely, no shimming needed

About 10g+ (without sensors )

[sweet trellis]

i wonder if the extruder gears will get hot enough to melt pla/petg/abs

they did on a all metal sherpa mini v2 😄

[rain swift]

I don’t think I encountered that my sherpa, but I know it has that black filament path
insert thing. I wasn’t sure how to add that this test run

[rain swift]

yay no boom success time to break in new closed loop belts!

Unfortunately 4040/2040 build will take a bit while I figure out how exactly I want everything 😭

Holy shit it actually prints

[rain swift]

Might be last time assembled until 4040/2040 doomish conversion!

Man I Love mono panel but hate the friggin clips! 2x more clips does NOT equal 2x more easy and secure

Ended up drilling out the corner clips and bolting the panel down 🙃

[weak moat]

Are these from 2020 frame no reinforcement?

[rain swift]

Yessir w/ beacon. Although I had ghosting until dialed down to 18k MZV.

[weak moat]

Can you post your graphs?

Please 🙏

[rain swift]

graphs haven't changed much, I'm definitely toolhead limited as is. vibration is from this same run (4/5/26) .
I print outer/inner at 160/250 for quality

I took toolhead apart again so nothing super recent lol

[weak moat]

is 16 scv ok to use for input graphs? wasnt aware but your y is very nice

[rain swift]

I think 5scv for diagnostic purposes iirc. I havent looked too deeply into tuning yet until my chube comes in

I'll put it back together and do a run, I haven't broken in the new belts yet.

slight vfa, no ghosting. I think PA needs a lil bump

[weak moat]

Is ghosting for speed issues and vfa is something else?

[rain swift]

My basic understanding of ghosting is from the resonance you get from high accels and vfa from high belt tension/motor artifacts. So a combo of both effects can compound if untuned

I’m def the wrong person to ask lol

[weak moat]

To be honest with my amateur eyes this looks good already lol

Thank you for sharing

[rain swift]

Stelth endstop striker mockup. Adjustable SLM one on the way. Still refuse to use sensorless lol

[weak moat]

Looks so clean 👌

[rain swift]

Latest beacon graphs with closed loop 9mm epdm + CNC monolith AWD. Pushed a little harder with APH=125. Belts @ 200hz. 2504AH x 5160t @ 2.5A Pretty much the same wall I've been hitting with 2020 frame and printed toolhead.

[weak moat]

Any idea with that X?

[rain swift]

Protoype IN3Dtec SLM stuff came in!

Experimenting with custom rigid toolhead - (Not planning on releasing due to design around my own personal needs)

[rain swift]

Thank you sensei @wicked storm for your guidance and helping this noob source gucci AirTac rails for upcoming 4040/2040 300mm+50mmZ build!

tempted to install the X rail tonight! - is mobil1 EP2 grease sufficient?

[wicked storm]

Nice!!! Ep2 is fine

[glad wasp]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, I'm new and full of stupid questions -- what's the toolhead with the screen on it called? Coolest thing I've ever seen

is it knomi?

[rain swift]

Yup Knomi, I miss it but it had to go for performance and print quality reasons. Reminds me I might want to stick her in the skirts or something

[glad wasp]

I did see some other people put them in the toolchanger docks themselves which is a cool idea. I read most of your build guide, super well documented and really fun to read, thank you for sharing. Did you find most of your performance increase by lightening weight in the toolhead itself (like by removing Knomi), by making the frame/gantry more rigid, or by switching from 24-48V? I love the idea of Knomi being on the toolhead so much I'm trying to decide if it's aesthetically it's worth it to trade off the performance/print quality concerns and maybe I can make it up elsewhere or if it's simply just too heavy to be on the toolhead itself

[rain swift]

Oh wow really appreciate that glad to hear it. I really had no idea what I was doing just experimenting as I go but it was a fun jorney. Still have no idea wtf I'm doing since I also prioritize esthetics lol but I've come to slightly better understand that simply: Rigidity > COM > Mass

But everyones setup is different, if you're not pushing speeds/accels maybe knomi wouldn't impact your print quality. I never bothered to try knomi again since I didn't want to introduce any possibility of a performance hit. You could probably still find a way to rigidly mount it in a better COM friendly spot and get away with it. Stealthburner was definitly a huge limiting factor though Moreso than knomi

[rain swift]

you jinxed me! TOO SOOON my metal extruder clogged! My sherpa V3 had these PEEK inserts that isolated the filment from the body. Maybe I can try to retrofit these or do the peek filament path like what you and hank mentioned. And like what burgos extruder does.

[sweet trellis]

:D yea that peek insert is what makes the v3 the much better extruder comparted to v2 lol

[rain swift]

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sad day flying gantry cam died in the line of fire.

Knew that heatsink wasn’t enough with it being only rated for 70C and living 99% of its life near a 110c hotbed

Safe to say I’m stubborn