Sub 0

[turbid coral]

Big batch (for a tiny printer)

[uneven spire]

6bt 12v Cummins powered 3d printer

[full stump]

Now we’re talking

[uneven spire]

Start a speed benchy and hear that turbo spool up 🤣

[turbid coral]

I didn't realize that I'd run out of heatsets again. I bought a bag of 100 and used all of those and the ones I already had. At least it's prime day at amazon

[turbid coral]

Daily update #2:

• skirt corners
• Bambu Lab anti vibration feet mounts
• printed idlers seem to work well but we'll see how long they last
• I burnt my fingie :(

[turbid coral]

Daily update #3

• skirts done except inlays
• xy joints done
  Just waiting on parts now to complete ab drives

[turbid coral]

Not much as far as progress but pi arrived today and motors should get here tomorrow.

Then it should be ready to go

[vocal patio]

A pi4 for that is strangely overkill to me. 😅. I used a zero 2w with my pico in the Doron Velta build.

[languid umbra]

Well, how about this? https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/04/13/7-dongshanpi-picow-small-arm-linux-board-with-usb-wifi-chip-four-12-pin-headers/

Or maybe one of these: https://wiki.friendlyelec.com/wiki/index.php/NanoPi_NEO2

[turbid coral]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unborn merlin]

Nah still too big

[unborn merlin]

Don't fret, I through in a pi3 I had kicking about collecting dust

[proven pendant]

The best SBC is the one you already have

[unborn merlin]

Well said

[turbid coral]

Almost done here

[unborn merlin]

Now that is looking fantastic 😍

Are you cutting your own panels?

That reminds me, I need to do the dxf file for the panels

[elfin token]

printing them with translucent petg 😄

[turbid coral]

Printing back and bottom panels, however not doing side panels

[turbid coral]

Actually that was my plan I've got some prusameters

I think the translucent green could look cool

[plain rain]

Print in place subzero hehe

[turbid coral]

Maybe I didn't completely think this part through

[unborn merlin]

that does look a bit tight🤏
your pi / pico mount is on upside down too

[turbid coral]

Ik that's on purpose my power inlet wires didn't reach all the way

[turbid coral]

Issue is filament has no way of getting to the extruder :/

[vocal patio]

Sure it does. Just use carbon fiber filament and it will wear its own path through all the plastic.

[elfin token]

make a hole or indent into the orange pi mount and route a ptfe bowden along

[turbid coral]

That's a good idea

I'll have to take everything off first tho :P

[elfin token]

no pain, no gain 😄

[turbid coral]

do I need more than this to get tighter tolerances lol

[turbid coral]

we'll see ig

[turbid coral]

It passed I'll buy it soon

40 bucks might be a bit much but I think it'll be worth it

[uneven spire]

You could probably get a scrap piece of aluminum for much cheaper than that or possibly free if you called any local machine shops...$40 seems like a lot... could also try send cut send

That's how nemgrea and I got the beds for the build at rmrrf
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037748538140004362/1228486576242429962/20240412_182639.jpg?ex=66a2df47&is=66a18dc7&hm=6aeb1e4cb5d1a471f566570f8625f37847afa772e8c31fca319b45339f091c4b&

[turbid coral]

No cnc or mill 🥲

[uneven spire]

Bed holds are tapped and screwed in from the bottom

[uneven spire]

Sendcutsend ?

[turbid coral]

I was about say I'll check that

[uneven spire]

It would definitely be cheaper than $40

[turbid coral]

Just a through hole then?

[uneven spire]

Yeah

[turbid coral]

With the thread obviously

K

[turbid coral]

How thick is that?

I have mine at 6mm rn

Which I think may be unnecessary

[uneven spire]

Yeah it's 6mm

[unborn merlin]

Looking sweet guys, yeah I got 40 bucks quote price too for the 42mm square bed.
My dad came up trumps though with some 5k series alu plate. Cut and machined it down and faced off the top / bottom surfaces to make it 8mm thick.
Just got to find time to drill and counter bore the holes and get mag and bed plate sorted.

[turbid coral]

I ended up going with pcbway bc I wanted the fancy add ons

ye it was more money but i mean not by much and I think the difference was worth it

[turbid coral]

you do anything for the bed plate yet? I'm considering just cutting some glass and putting some pei sticker on it or smth

[unborn merlin]

Not yet, it's a kind of on hold for the time being as if not been looking after myself very well as of late so taking time to get back to good health.
And also going on scout camp next week from Saturday so going to be a little off grid for a while.
I'm hoping the time off and time away will do me some good.
I'd like to say that I'd be back at it after that but life is life and my wife has a big op 3 days after I'm back because of the big C.
So going to be supporting her through recovery.
So might be a while before I'm fully back on the game.
I dare say that you might very well finish yours before I do😁

[plain rain]

That's just a gami now

[astral elbow]

Take care❤️

[unborn merlin]

Thank you
I'm feeling much better now I've been looking after myself amd we have a good plan in place for my wife so things are looking up👍

[turbid coral]

Well that'll certainly be interesting glad to hear things are well

[unborn merlin]

i should realistically be back in about a months time if all goes well
but we will see what the future brings
hopefully ill be back sooner, but for now i will be just lurking🤣

[turbid coral]

Well I'll keep you updated.. I'm almost done with the physical build

Just gotta set up klipper

Except the bed ofc

[uneven spire]

Hey ...that's not right.. usually the Micron is sitting on the bed of the big printer 😂

[turbid coral]

The tides have turned

[uneven spire]

Micron in a 350 😂

[turbid coral]

My 350 trident kit will arrive one day and then I'll be able to stack all 3

[uneven spire]

I still want to do micron in a 350, in a Phoenix

[full stump]

we need a printers in printers thread somewhere

[turbid coral]

Nesting dolls at that point

[uneven spire]

Now add subzero to that

[turbid coral]

[full stump]

i know it doesn't count for much

[turbid coral]

You could fit a micron and subzero on the xl

[full stump]

yee

[gloomy onyx]

Love it!

[safe stream]

We must go further
Sub zero in a micron in a 350 in a phoenix

[turbid coral]

I wonder if it'd fit on an orangestorm

[turbid coral]

I'm gonna try a completely printed rail for x as the current one with the bowden tubes isn't sturdy enough to hold up the toolhead.

[turbid coral]

Still not great tbh but significantly better

Not sure about longevity

[elfin token]

Maybe print one part from petg for less friction

[turbid coral]

I'll try that once it becomes an issue. Huge pain to replace :P

[uneven spire]

You should look into what zruncho did for printed rails on tri zero
https://youtu.be/JXZt2rP1yQQ?si=OZQYVKoJwI98iU1u

[turbid coral]

That's certainly a good idea, however my frame is also printed and wouldn't slide that smoothly (also it doesn't actually have the t-slot lol)

I suppose I could print another gantry extrusion with that but again I don't know if it'd be much better

[uneven spire]

Ah ok

[vocal patio]

You may want to lubricate it with graphite. Make it glide more easily.

Also yes. Petg would help here a ton.

[grim laurel]

V0.2 in a flsun v400 delta

[grim laurel]

Fr

[vocal patio]

I should build a sub-0 and then do the same with the Doron Velta. 🤣

[elfin token]

hold my beer 😄

[tiny imp]

design a submicron for the 4d chess move

[unborn merlin]

Yes you should

[unborn merlin]

Loving the big feet you went for on this, really sells the smol printer vibe

[turbid coral]

I'm gonna be gone for 10 days so the build will have to wait until then. Just got to finish writing the toolhead and flashing the boards

[full stump]

https://discord.com/channels/460117602945990666/1267831734406352967 went the wrong way today

[turbid coral]

I'm back and at it. Flashing in progress, which hopefully doesn't take so long since I suck at flashing

Although I have more experience this time and I don't have to do can

[unborn merlin]

do you use KIAUH?

[unborn merlin]

big i cool, but smol is cooler

[turbid coral]

I had issues with can board last time

Ugh issues with sd card

[unborn merlin]

brave pushing it in with power on🤣

[turbid coral]

I've turned it on and off again too many times

[unborn merlin]

might be a bad sd card

or something didnt quite load up properly
had that on one of my builds after i did a fresh install once
had to redo the whole thing again

does it boot if you disconnect the uart cable from the pi?

[turbid coral]

Tried that already, no change

[unborn merlin]

hmmm.....

might be worth wiping the sd card and having another go
long winded i know but other than that it might be the sd card itself

[turbid coral]

The green light should be blinking though :/

Not off like in the video

[turbid coral]

If it's not working

If it is it should just be on

[unborn merlin]

mine flickers fast while booting

like the old hard drive light on an old pc

[turbid coral]

If you look at the video once I put the sd card in it stops blinking at all

[unborn merlin]

that is odd

do you have another sd card you could use?

[turbid coral]

Nope. Might just order another or stop by office store

[unborn merlin]

i did have one that had a slower read/write speed and that caused some issues for me
but it did boot etc, it just hung / slowed down on the odd occation

ctach up with you tomorrow bud, got to hit the sack

[turbid coral]

Gn

[unborn merlin]

best of luck though

[turbid coral]

I'll see what I can do

[unborn merlin]

how'd you get on?

[turbid coral]

I tried another sd card and it had the same issue so I think its something with the board

if it comes to it I'll just buy a pi zero since theyre like 10 bucks

[turbid coral]

I fear that it may be a faulty pi as nothing I do fixes it, the sd card reader appears to not be working

I just bought a pi zero so hopefully I have more luck with that

issues with the sd card reader seem to be pretty common for the pi 4

[unborn merlin]

F8ngers crossed it works for you

[unborn merlin]

Oh not heard of that one before, I'll have to keep and eye on that. Got 2 v0's with pi4's in. Sub 0 has a pi3

[turbid coral]

I'm a mess rn I accidentally ordered the wrong pi and wasted like 15 bucks

I often do this when I mess something up I scramble to order a fix and always get the wrong thing

I'm gonna mess around with the 4 some more before I order another

[unborn merlin]

Oh no, sorry to hear that, sounds like you need to take a breather bud.

[turbid coral]

That's probably a good idea. I'll work on a less stressful project for now.

[turbid coral]

ay were in

just had to wait for new rpi

bed seems to be taking a while to ship from pcbway unfortunately

[turbid coral]

@unborn merlin would you mine sliding me your printer.cfg file?

got everything flashed

[vocal patio]

Would it not be the v0 config but with max distances set way way lower?

[unborn merlin]

sure thing!
sorry for the late reply

[turbid coral]

I'm lazy

[vocal patio]

Fair. 😆

[turbid coral]

No worries, I went to sleep right after I sent that

[unborn merlin]

You were up late then😁
How you doing these days?
Hope the break helped

[turbid coral]

Pretty good. Definitely needed that break, the project in question was a rpi 5 computer for my 3d printing closet

I can't escape the rpis

[unborn merlin]

Oooo nice project and one I'd love to do one day just for kicks

[unborn merlin]

Oh I forgot to mention, I have the belted Z mod on mine so the printer.cfg will need changing for that bit.

[turbid coral]

noted, thanks for leting me know 👍

[turbid coral]

another mini project! soldering those tiny wires was tough

[unborn merlin]

Yep I feel your pain there🤣

[unborn merlin]

Very smol update.😁
Got round to starting the umbilical... top side anyway🤣

[civic crane]

Did you get your extrusions pre cut? Or did you cut them yourself?

[unborn merlin]

i cut them myself from a spare siboor frame i had collecting dust

[civic crane]

Deciding on to do this, or work on a similar project (salad forks little brother)

Or a pandoras mini box

[civic crane]

V0? Or something else

Cause I don’t know if I should buy a few long aluminum extrusions or go with some other option

[unborn merlin]

V0 so it made it easy, just set up the mill once and swap out the extrusions.
took about an hour i think to do the lot.
got to do the top hat later though

[unborn merlin]

that would be cool

[unborn merlin]

depends on if you can cut then yourself, but it would be cheaper to get lengths in than buy a frame and then cut
i think some places will cut to size but comes at a cost normally

[civic crane]

I work in a machine shop so it would probably be easier to get it in lengths and cut it down on our automated band saw

[civic crane]

Just gotta finish my v2, but I will probably slowly work on the cad here soon

[unborn merlin]

that would be sweet and would be great to get other ideas for the smol printer🫠

[civic crane]

Tri 0 🥴

Tiny tiny T

Salad baby fork

[unborn merlin]

looks like the baby printer is about to have more babies

[civic crane]

What linear did you use for your sub zero?

Mgn9h? Or is there a different one

[unborn merlin]

i got some cheap MGN7H 70mm long rails of ali

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32772699717.html?

these ones

[civic crane]

I don’t know what type of psu I should get (I’m not smart enough for that lol) but I know It needs to be smol

[unborn merlin]

well that depends on if you plan to have it in the printer or go for an external one.
the later will free up space for other components and wot nots.
if your not going mad with all the toys and big heaters then 24v at 6A will be enough, otherwise 24v at 8-9A should supply what you need.

i know @stark parcel was working on an printer bound power supply but i think it didnt have a case on it?
you'd have to ask him for more details though

[civic crane]

What type should I get? Lrs-50-24 be able to work?

[civic crane]

I’ll probably have it in the printer, still have to depend on the size and cad

[unborn merlin]

that would be cool, youll have to make a thread so we can follow your progress

[civic crane]

Yessir gonna happen soon ™

Hopefully I will be able to get my v2 up and running by the end of next week

[unborn merlin]

still got to build mine, but we moved so i dont have the room currently.
got to get a workshop sorted in the back garden first, then itll be kitted out for a print room etc

[turbid coral]

nice, unfortunately for me, all my toolhead parts are from a formbot kit with a can board so ive got to extend every wire once I get to that part :P

[unborn merlin]

good luck hope it goes well for you

[elfin token]

will you put everything to your github once finalized?

[unborn merlin]

Links to power supplies, pins etc?

[elfin token]

no i mean all parts and stuff, lengths of extrusions and yes maybe what components you used. or put the hole cad online

[unborn merlin]

Right gotcha, yes I will jump back on the project soon. Needed to take a break for family and health reasons.👍

[elfin token]

no probs! that has highest priority!

[tiny imp]

I vote for cocktail fork

Or cake fork

Dessert fork

[unborn merlin]

garden fork

[tiny imp]

I'm trying to go smaller than salad fork lol

[civic crane]

Oyster fork

[unborn merlin]

spaghetti fork🤣

[unborn merlin]

why go smol when you can go BIG

[languid umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/aquaman-king-aquaman-yellow-suit-aquaman-dc-comics-gif-20444981

[full stump]

backscratcher

[unborn merlin]

ooooo me likey

[full stump]

or whatever ariel calls a fork in the little mermaid

https://tenor.com/toOD.gif

[unborn merlin]

nah thats just a dinner fork😁

🤔 wouldnt that constitute as a trident

[full stump]

dinglehopper

[tiny imp]

beat me to it

[civic crane]

I like it

[unborn merlin]

whats a dinglehopper?

[full stump]

ur a dinglehopper

[unborn merlin]

oh i see

[civic crane]

https://tenor.com/view/littlemermaid-dinglehopper-weird-mermaid-derp-gif-6170024

[turbid coral]

How tf do you forget to anodize

Imma have a talk with whoevers at pcbway

[civic crane]

So… where are we getting our bed heaters from?

[turbid coral]

Ali

They're called "pi heaters"

[unborn merlin]

that certainly an option
i got a 5w heater to test but i think it might be a bit low on power

[unborn merlin]

looking nice though and tbf mine is not annodised either

[civic crane]

Like this?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrATAsC

[civic crane]

I’ll probably make my own

[unborn merlin]

thats what i did, had a chunk of 5000 series alu knocking about so just milled it to size

[civic crane]

I’ll find some scrap material at work and mill it out when I get free time

[unborn merlin]

i think that was the one i went for

yep tiny little smol thing

[civic crane]

So… for bed setup
It will need one of those bed fuses (possibly bolted into bed)
Bed will most likely need a screw in thermistor
Holes for bed springs

[unborn merlin]

not sure about the bed fuse, i dont think that heater will reach that temp before self distruct

also where to mount it?

[civic crane]

Better safe than sorry… don’t know with those Chinese things

[unborn merlin]

i was going to mill a slot for the temp sensor

[unborn merlin]

very true

[civic crane]

Either on the bottom of the bed or mounted onto the bed mount (whatever the actual bed is mounted to)

[unborn merlin]

Oh like sitting over one of the bed springs

Was gona us one of the for the bed temp

[civic crane]

Either there, or smushed into the corner of the bed

[unborn merlin]

yeah that could work

[civic crane]

I will force it somewhere

[unborn merlin]

ill have to moch it up in the CAD

[civic crane]

Same

Gonna work on it tomorrow night and into the weekend.

I just don’t know how to model wires in

[unborn merlin]

thay are a pain tbf and not something i like doing much, unless im in the mood

[unborn merlin]

if you find a good spot ping up a screenshot for me

[turbid coral]

I think I put the wrong connection type in the klipper file for the pico so imma go fix that rq

Oh look at that I got a little drink next to my name

[unborn merlin]

looking sweet mate

you closer to finishing up than i am

[civic crane]

Tool head design: smol xol

Instead of 3010 fans it will be 2006 fans

And 3010 blowers instead of 4010

[turbid coral]

how about no fans except for coldend and just aux fans

like on the 24/7 v0

the ducts on the side just direct the aux fans to the parts

[unborn merlin]

its all good for the taking
personally im going to stick with miniSB for now
i think the smaller fans might not help with cooling the printed parts though
but that doesnt mean we cant try right?!

[unborn merlin]

i did consider this but the lack of space in the frame might make it fun to squeeze in... maybe 5015's?

[civic crane]

Aux cooling might be a better choice

[unborn merlin]

someone asked a while back to have mini cpap

[civic crane]

Any tool head that I’ve looked into just seems to big for the smol printer

[turbid coral]

im not doing any side panels so 5015s as aux would work fine

[unborn merlin]

im going fully enclosed

[civic crane]

Same

[turbid coral]

no side fans = lots of extra x

[unborn merlin]

top hat... basically the lot🤣

[unborn merlin]

true that

[turbid coral]

likely not a wonderful idea for a printed frame, etc.

[civic crane]

What material did you go with?

[turbid coral]

abs

[unborn merlin]

oh yeah i forgot you printed the frame.... so cool

have you got the cad up on github, i can link you then on my github

[turbid coral]

tbf I'm sticking with sb as well.. not really striving for good print quality

[turbid coral]

I can work on that

[unborn merlin]

it'll do the job fine😁

[civic crane]

Going for speed 😎

I should put 48v drivers in this

[unborn merlin]

[turbid coral]

ig the point is cooling isnt the concern when it comes to quality lol

[turbid coral]

we have very different builds in mind I suppose

[civic crane]

For sure

[unborn merlin]

each to their own🤣

[civic crane]

Mines not even gonna be a v0 iteration

[turbid coral]

I'm spending as little as possible, i'm under $400 i think, probably less

[unborn merlin]

i got 400mm/s @ 20k so ill outrun the miniSB🤣

[turbid coral]

(if I didn't mess up a couple pis)

[turbid coral]

damn that's pretty good

[unborn merlin]

yeah not bad from OMC steppers

[turbid coral]

those cali cubes will be flowing

[unborn merlin]

0.4A @ 24v

[civic crane]

Smol breakneck

[turbid coral]

what the goof

its so tall

[unborn merlin]

extra tall tophat

[turbid coral]

where do the ducts go?

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/tall-hat-cowboy-gif-18546493

[turbid coral]

no tophat B)

[civic crane]

No clue, just saw it in the armchair discord

[unborn merlin]

yeah they have some mad stuff over there

[turbid coral]

flycron for starters

[unborn merlin]

oooffff

i just tallied my build up and so far ive spent 168 quid

[turbid coral]

all depends on how large your junk drawer is

[civic crane]

I have some of the stuff I already need for this build except electronics, frame, and possibly motors

[unborn merlin]

huge

[civic crane]

I could reuse creality motors… 👀

[unborn merlin]

mema17 for the win

[turbid coral]

or you could get those beast mode ldos to go crazy

[turbid coral]

i had some extra nema17s but I didn't think theyd fit

[civic crane]

The printer will need to be bolted to the wall or floor at that point

Would shake so damn much

[unborn merlin]

just watch at a distance🤣

itll be break dancing

and then breaking

[unborn merlin]

i saw that vid, mad stuff

[turbid coral]

yup, I think I watched the makers muse version instead of sanladerers

[unborn merlin]

not currently, but with a mod... maybe😁

[unborn merlin]

i thought it interesting but it just doesnt work out like you'd think

[turbid coral]

while you're at it why not just do awd with 9mm belts

[turbid coral]

ngl i watched it a while ago, what was the conclusion again?

[unborn merlin]

funny you should say that

[turbid coral]

oh no

[civic crane]

My plan was to use spare gt3 belt, and possibly mini monolith

https://discord.com/channels/1227971059764953230/1242933475854516315

[turbid coral]

ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵃʷᵈˀ

[unborn merlin]

it sort of works but the suspention adds new resonances

[turbid coral]

ah

makes sense

[civic crane]

Feel like it would fit my Tiny fork very well

[unborn merlin]

go for it

[turbid coral]

I need to see this

[civic crane]

Soon 🔜

[turbid coral]

calicube sub 1 minute

[civic crane]

I gotta work on da cad

[turbid coral]

chube or goliath

[civic crane]

Dragon hf

[civic crane]

Possibly gonna do crazy dragon

[unborn merlin]

9mm belts

[unborn merlin]

itll be going brrrrrr

[turbid coral]

you could do hex0 and instead of taking advantage of the extra build, go for a smaller footprint

sub, sub zero

[unborn merlin]

10mm cubed build

micro 0

[turbid coral]

you can print a prime blob... no that's it

[unborn merlin]

enough for a purge line

or voron purge

[civic crane]

I was looking into a little bit bigger than the 30mm cubed, I was thinking like 50mm or 75?

[turbid coral]

60 for benchy like me

B)

[unborn merlin]

thats why i went for 42

enough for a cube plus a bit

[unborn merlin]

speed benchy

[civic crane]

Then possibly 75 or 80mm

[unborn merlin]

almost a v0

[civic crane]

Pandoras mini box

[unborn merlin]

perfect

[unborn merlin]

yes that would be cool

[turbid coral]

was about to say.. getting too close

[civic crane]

https://tenor.com/view/too-close-chappelle-choke-gif-16756830

[unborn merlin]

im only really planning on doing voron cubes anyway

[turbid coral]

I'm more of a benchy typa guy

[civic crane]

I’m doing it for the meme at this point

[turbid coral]

the classic

well thats the point

[civic crane]

Was pier pressured

[unborn merlin]

thats how it all stated, i saw the short and was like "I WANT ONE!"

[turbid coral]

"f*ck zodiac signs, voron cube or benchy"

funny how there was only that one nero short on it

not enough attention 😢

[civic crane]

We will make it known

[unborn merlin]

its got some traction now there is CAD

[turbid coral]

🤝

[unborn merlin]

amen to that

[civic crane]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-hockey-kid-yeah-gif-19821215

[unborn merlin]

gona head off guys
my bed is calling

[turbid coral]

gn 👋

[civic crane]

Night brotha

[civic crane]

Stuff I have:
Nema17 motors (gonna reuse creality motors cause I have so many)
Idlers, bearings, belts
Z axis screws
Pancake motor for extruder (possibly Sherpa mini)
Spare fans (don’t know what I have)
Endstops
Old dragon hf (needs new heat sink and thermistor)
Mini 12684
Fuses and bed springs
Pc panels (will use to enclose)
Stuff to make boop? (Don’t know if i will use that or klicky)
Cb1 to use on manta ez

Stuff I need to source:
1515 frame
Aluminum bed (will make at work)
Bed heater (pi heater)
Psu (uhp-200-24)
Mainboard (manta e3ez)
Kapton tape (to use for bed thermistor)
Linear rails
Din rails

🤔 hmm what else do I need…

I know I need to make cad 😂

[unborn merlin]

wow, so Sub 0 Max?

[civic crane]

Mini Fork

Crazy mini fork

[unborn merlin]

thats going to be mad

[civic crane]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-mad-scientist-linus-ltt-lmg-gif-24828043

[civic crane]

Issue… none of the motor mounts can fit a nema17 motor on a 1515 extrusion

But I haven’t checked the monolith one yet

But that will be tomorrow’s issue… to late for this 😅

[civic crane]

Monolith only supports nema 14… time to go custom…

[unborn merlin]

There is a nema 17 motor mount somewhere... I'll see if I can find it

https://www.printables.com/model/494742-voron-v02-nema-17-mount

Found it😁👍

[civic crane]

Sadly… that’s for the v0… not for a mini fork ☹️

[civic crane]

😂

[turbid coral]

Just print the ab drives as one part

[turbid coral]

More of a trident than a v0 at this point

[civic crane]

thats the point

mini fork

[turbid coral]

Why not connect the drives?

[civic crane]

they are now

[turbid coral]

Ah

[civic crane]

just need some more work to them, so that it can bolted to that rear z extrusion

[turbid coral]

The horizontal one?

Might not need it at this scale

Oh you mean the vertical one

That might be tricky, good luck

[civic crane]

im gonna have it bolted from the top and front, but the only issue i may run into is if the linear rail will be able to fit in there

i could just flip the b motor

[unborn merlin]

looking really good even though you just started😁 👍

[civic crane]

its to small, where a m12/pg7 cable gland would not be able to fit inbetween the motors

[unborn merlin]

maybe nema 14's might help?

[civic crane]

nah, nema 17 all the way

i didnt spend all this time making nema 17 mounts for nothing

ima make the toolhead cables escape out of the exhaust cover

hoping to get gantry done today

[unborn merlin]

nice work and good work around👍

you going to make your own build channel?
might be a good idea so that you can pool your ideas / cad / build etc

[civic crane]

yeah, i probably should do that huh?

[unborn merlin]

more for your sanity
your embarking on the unknown😁

[civic crane]

all in the name of science

[unborn merlin]

is there any other way😁

[languid umbra]

I guess when it's done, it'll be the result of some gland plans.

[civic crane]

its gonna be built for a speed benchy, then it will sit in the corner and collect dust

[uneven spire]

you need one of these just sitting in the middle both A and B motor in one

[unborn merlin]

Didn't even know they did motors like this😱
Looks like ima be doing a mod

[civic crane]

Yay, an even smaller printer!

I can finally print an m3 washer without any issues now

[uneven spire]

those were the steppers i wanted to use on the Micron3030
named for it because its print volume is 30mmx30mm to print ONLY voron cubes

the Z stepper is just asking to use those

imagine a QGL on a 30x30 bed 🤣

[full stump]

need a triple coaxial motor really

[turbid coral]

Might as well use 15x30 extrusion for the bed

[uneven spire]

yeah if i was actually going to do that i would probably just use a single extrusion lol

[vocal patio]

Ah. But that’s the perfect build volume for many small Voron parts. Rail stops, z mounts on Micron+, led diffusers, logos, lots of really tiny things. Now I want one. 🤣

[gilded ridge]

That needs a baby beacon.

[unborn merlin]

Imagine the collection of meme printer we are going to end up with

[turbid coral]

and people think 120^2 is small

[civic crane]

Minicron, Mini Fork, Sub 0, SwitchThread, what’s next 😂

Maybe an even smaller SwitchThread. Might need to talk with @cerulean badger about it

[turbid coral]

mini doron velta

[languid umbra]

A voron made from 2x4's.

[uneven spire]

Have you heard of the Monster Delta?

[turbid coral]

No I have not 👀

[uneven spire]

its named because its the size of a Monster Energy drink can

extruder is in the base

sadly the project isnt active anymore

had custom machined parts for it

[turbid coral]

Are you going to finish the mini 2.4?

[uneven spire]

maybe one day lol

low on priority atm

also the monster delta wasnt mine it on a different discord

[turbid coral]

I figured

[turbid coral]

Busy on other projects?

[unborn merlin]

Yessss tell us your plans 😁

[cerulean badger]

Even smaller? Then you need a smaller toolhead as well 😄

[unborn merlin]

Oh no! What have we done

[unborn merlin]

im feeling the need to get this project rolling again🫠
its been way too long since i got the chance to properly play with this....
@turbid coral how's your build comming?

[civic crane]

It’s gonna be a while for mine too… I need to get my v2 rocking and rolling before I can get the mini fork built.

Fingers crossed I can get it complete in the next 2 weeks

[turbid coral]

I'm working on planning and sourcing my trident build rn... Getting a sick frame from dllpdf. Gonna try to finish this build while parts are arriving and inbetween printing. I'm a little bit short on time since school started up again tho.

[unborn merlin]

thats fair, hope school doesnt kill you off too much this year😁
im expecting more cool stuff from you... no pressure

[civic crane]

lots of pressure

I’m going through the same thing right now too. Trying to juggle work and college… but I’m gonna try to chug along with these projects

[plain rain]

Bacon Bit

[unborn merlin]

Cable management on this printer is no joke😬 but i got a bit further tonight at least👍

[ruby crescent]

Better see this thing print some ultra fast benchies with that smaller and lighter gantry!

[civic crane]

Nema 17 when? Gotta go faster

[unborn merlin]

Lol

[unborn merlin]

Well technically you can do it already with this mod...
https://www.printables.com/model/494742-voron-v02-nema-17-mount

I am planning on switching out for Tulip mod at some point though🥰

[unborn merlin]

its got smaller and light motors to boot too

[civic crane]

It gets me excited for how the mini fork will be

[unborn merlin]

mine is not super quick, only 260mm/s @20k
but not bad from nema 14's (40mm stack) running 0.4Amps

[ruby crescent]

Aye!

[ruby crescent]

Decrease speed and increase accel

[civic crane]

I’m probably gonna be running higher than that. I plan on using gt3 belts (needs higher tension but usually can get more speed from it)

[unborn merlin]

motors stall beyond 20k, they are only babies after all and i didnt go super high on the spec. had to keep it budget friendly

[ruby crescent]

Ah

[civic crane]

I think my bom is around 220? I think the only thing I’m forgetting for it is ab motors hardware and bearings

[turbid coral]

I wouldn't trust that to go overnight.. it would definitely fall off the table

or just fall over

[civic crane]

bolt it to the table or wall

[unborn merlin]

Ots OK ill put a V0 on top to stabilise it

[unborn merlin]

Hung from ceiling

[turbid coral]

[turbid coral]

Got a new router recently and none of my printers have been connecting so I've been unable to work on it (or print on my v2). Gonna see if I can fix it this weekend

[unborn merlin]

As far as I'm aware you have 2 option

• hardwire to the router
• reload klipper with new ssid credentials

[civic crane]

Can’t you just reflash raspberry pi firmware? Cause klipper is already flashed to the mainboard

But I have no clue

[vocal patio]

You’d lose the configs that are on the sd card in a Linux only partition.

[civic crane]

Like printer.cfg? Just copy and paste it

[vocal patio]

Which you can’t do. Without having internet access or (if you use windows) finding a program that lets you access the Linux partition on the sd card.

[civic crane]

Trueeee…. Forgot about that

[unborn merlin]

Oh 3rd workaround is to have the old router plugged into your PC via ethernet cable and that way you can grab all the .cfg files you need before reloading klipper on your sd card👍
It's what I have my V0's on. No Internet just the WiFi for the printers. Just been super lazy reloading klipper now for over a year but it's kinda cool having a dedicated network for my printers😬

[turbid coral]

I have the old router plugged in still, they just don't connect after the new one was put in upstairs. My dad changed a few settings on certain devices but we checked and it wasn't my printers or my computer. Gonna see if new ssids work

[unborn merlin]

Now the kids are safely back at school I managed to find a couple of hours to finish off one of the aluminium beds😁
Milled this one down to 6mm as the tiny 5W heater might struggle with it at 8mm.
Milled in the mounting holes and counter bored plus a nice little channel for the NTC thermistor to sit in.

[unborn merlin]

Trial fit just to make sure my manually machined bed actually fits

[vocal patio]

Speed cube time yet? 😆

[unborn merlin]

Funny you should say that

just running up its first heated bed test

two and a half mins to get from 24 degrees to 50🤔
thats not bad for a 5W 24v heater

running PID for 60
lets see how it does

it does indeed reach and hold 60 degrees bed temp
looks like i underestimated this little heater

[unborn merlin]

setting a few things up, but this is almost comical

[vocal patio]

What about 110c?

[unborn merlin]

dont know if i want to try that😬

[civic crane]

I will 😂

I wanna print some abs

[unborn merlin]

thats the plan here too
but baby steps... you know
dont want to break it just yet😁

[unborn merlin]

First tries🎉

The 5W bed heater gets a nice steady 70 degrees.
Tried for 80 and got a klipper shutdown at 78 degrees.
But pretty happy with the results so far.

[civic crane]

Gets me excited to start the mini fork

[turbid coral]

Ooh how'd you get the mainsail bg?

[unborn merlin]

its quite simple to do, once mainsail is loaded on SSH into the rpi and load KIAUH
in the "advanced" section there will be a "mainsail Theme" installer.
install that.
now got to your mainsail printer and in your config files you will now have a THEME folder
download your background in here and change the name to "main-background"
you can also change the side bar too and other things to get it nice an fancy

https://docs.mainsail.xyz/overview/features/themes/themes

load more stuff is here

[turbid coral]

Thanks! Looks awesome

[civic crane]

So would it be better to mill a slot for the thermistor or just kapton tape it to the heater?

[turbid coral]

Milling would be better but kapton would be easier.

[civic crane]

I plan on using 2 thermistors anyways

[civic crane]

So one will be milled like @unborn merlin then I will have a m3 thermistor in the bed aswell. Just for safe measures

[vocal patio]

If you heat to 60c, let the chamber warm up, then heat to 70c and repeat until at 90c it should work.

Less power needed if the chamber is up to temp.

[unborn merlin]

That's a good idea🤔
Well, looks like panels are next

[viscid cedar]

@unborn merlin pics 😄

I like your subzero though, that's pretty

[unborn merlin]

of all my V0's?

[viscid cedar]

Yes!

How many?

ALso, would love to see a vid of that legendary speed I heard abotu

[unborn merlin]

three if you include the sub 0😁

[unborn merlin]

ill have to have a dig through my old footage then

[viscid cedar]

Haha no worries. It'd be fun to see but not a requirement.

[unborn merlin]

@viscid cedar there you go dude

[viscid cedar]

That is really fast...why does it do that pattern? Is that some test or just a showoff pattern?

[quasi shard]

Great looking printer!

[unborn merlin]

The diagonal moves are a single motor so it shows off how much each motor can handle before you max out.
So yeah it's kind of a flex

[unborn merlin]

Thank you🥰 it's a bit more colourful atm but will get put back at some point to red and white

[viscid cedar]

Ah that makes sense. Nice.

[viscid cedar]

I dig the Jedi look, and the color scheme you chose. Even on the PC lol. How'd you customize mainsail?

[unborn merlin]

This bit here bud 👆

It's quite easy tbf, if you have a nice background you want just follow the steps above

[ruby crescent]

Tiny!

[unborn merlin]

I think it might hold the world's smallest heated bed...maybe...

[ruby crescent]

Oooo

[unborn merlin]

I am totally guessing though🤣

[ruby crescent]

rofl

[unborn merlin]

What's that mean?
Not seen that one before

[unborn merlin]

Oh

I thought it was some acronym

[turbid coral]

Rolling on the floor

I think

*Rolling on the floor laughing

[tough raven]

https://youtu.be/ilBb-qNrp3E relevant

[unborn merlin]

Got a spare V0 build plate that isn't going to be used so thought I'd see if I could butcher it to fit the sub 0😁
Hoping to get some time tomorrow to do just that and then it's game on time.e for printing stuff🫠

still need to get panels cut though to finish the enclosure and get a top hat sorted too

[civic crane]

So smol

[unborn merlin]

Some progress today as I managed to get to the workshop and cut up the build plate.
The theory was to clamp it between two chunky bits of metal to act as a heat sink when cutting with an angle grinder.
Results were quite good tbh and I now have a 46mm² build plate.
Chopped down a spare mag sheet and trimmed after I stuck it down.

Next will be to play and tune it

[unborn merlin]

Hacking parts together has some interesting challenges😁 but is a lot of fun.

[civic crane]

Yup, I got some more stuff coming in in the next 2 weeks for my little guy. Including hardware and motion

[unborn merlin]

That's gona be really good to see it start to come together 👍

[civic crane]

I really only need to get motors and extra electronics and I’d pretty much have everything?

I also need to get the v2 running again 😂

[unborn merlin]

Od probably start with that one😁
Don't want two non working printers😬

[ruby crescent]

Gotta add bed alignment corners too!

[turbid coral]

I mean one is definitely more practical than the other

[unborn merlin]

Nah, I opted for an oversized flex plate😁
Helps keep the flat part flat imo and removes that "get it on straight" thing

[ruby crescent]

Ah

[unborn merlin]

Just removes some of the faff
Plus i didn't know that cutting up a build plate with an angle grinder would even work so I went a bit bigger to be on the safe side.
I'll probably do a smaller one as I have enough left to have 3 more goes👍

[unborn merlin]

I might do this though and add it to the github for other to use if they wish, so was a good suggestion 👍

[ruby crescent]

ooo!!!

[unborn merlin]

Dance for me baby

[turbid coral]

You should seriously duct tape that down, its going to fall over if you go to fast

[unborn merlin]

gota see what it can do

i have been dialing it down a touch though

[civic crane]

I think you can run it faster

[unborn merlin]

oh i know i can but it would fall over

[turbid coral]

Wow there's even a voron emoji for that

I shouldn't be suprised tbh

[unborn merlin]

this one?

no thats not it

this one?

no not that one either

[turbid coral]

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/bogdan-fixing-tape-taping-fix-gif-15682928

[turbid coral]

This one is amazing tho

[unborn merlin]

After some teething troubles is present the first full cube😁

[turbid coral]

🥳

time

[unborn merlin]

not quite, got panels and top hat to go yet

actually...

@spiral lynx would this qualify for ?

[turbid coral]

I mean technically you don't need that for a serial

[unborn merlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/voroncorexy/s/78I7dV54jB

[ruby crescent]

FASTERRRR

[unborn merlin]

happy cake day!

thank you @torpid orchid

To celebrate the first 'd V-Sub 0 Petal is having a small makeover in Teal Blue with the addition of Tulip Mod!

few more parts to print out and its go time!
@spiral lynx i believe we had a deal that you would also get a for your Sub-0 once I'd obtained one for mine😁

top hat and panels are in the works too to get the full package wrapped up

[unborn merlin]

ill go for a speedy run after Tulip is installed😁
ill put it on the table so will have lots of room to dance around

[ruby crescent]

micro sized tulip!!!??? :o

[unborn merlin]

yeah to go on 10x10 extrusion
nah, only had to adapt 2 parts to get it to work on Sub 0👍 the rest is just normal parts

[ruby crescent]

Omg and it's gonna be double shear!

Doubly shear is the only way!

[unborn merlin]

yup

been working on nema 17 versions too

[ruby crescent]

I saw!

[torpid orchid]

I love those comments

almost all are "this is completely pointless and I love it"

[unborn merlin]

oh yes! this is purly to print Voron cubes and nothing else
it was born out of "i want that!" after seeing @spiral lynx 's one...
after that i just made the CAD work so others can do it if they wanted too😁
its been a lot of fun and there have been some crazy idea's for the DEV of this smol printer

[torpid orchid]

It's great printer for conventions, a conversation starter, and a showcase of enthusiasm of people.

[torpid orchid]

Are you coming to SMRRF?

[unborn merlin]

i am yes and ill be bringing the sub 0 with me

[torpid orchid]

This would have place at the voron table 😅

[torpid orchid]

[unborn merlin]

it should be totally finished by then with panels and top hat so shulld be a great show piece and demo for the Voron Table

😁

[torpid orchid]

[unborn merlin]

it'll be great to meet some of the team too🥰

[turbid coral]

Unfortunately there wasn't a voron table at ERRF, although there were plenty of vorons

[torpid orchid]

We are a secret legion.We are the background noise. We are everywhere.

[turbid coral]

Especially at the fabreeko tables

[full stump]

oh gosh wrong gif

[turbid coral]

thats horrible

[torpid orchid]

This is cursed lol

[unborn merlin]

i second this

[full stump]

d'leted 😅

[turbid coral]

thank you 🙏

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-sigh-phew-gif-5752975

[torpid orchid]

Before I managed to favor ite it? Come on

[unborn merlin]

Last parts for Tulip - check
Now got to cut some pins ready for install tonight👍

also going to retiar the 5w heated bed
i have another one i'm machineing up for a 50w cartridge heater

[stark parcel]

wtf, tell me the used Filament... lol (I have a design with 3DO Makita Blue, 3DO Black and Redline Silver...)

[unborn merlin]

im ashamed to say😬

i have some rolls of... errmm... cough esun abs+🤦‍♂️
teal blue and cold white

[stark parcel]

🤣

[civic crane]

Tulip?

[unborn merlin]

#1259699805693808681

[civic crane]

That’ll be cool

[unborn merlin]

Slow but steady progress
Almost forgot how fiddly Sub 0 is to work on

Sub 0 and Driftrotor powered by monster🫠
Unfortunately not sponsored by😭

[unborn merlin]

Well it was smol before but now having so #1259699805693808681 on it looks even smoler🫠

[unborn merlin]

New mini kirigami stealth front and this time I'm wiring up the NeoPixel

[turbid coral]

You gonna leave some of the red parts? If you have enough filament I'd reprint everything to match, but maybe that's just me

[unborn merlin]

A few strategic red parts will remain😁... for now

[turbid coral]

Is that a printed sock for the bed? I wonder if it'll hold up with the new heater

[unborn merlin]

It's was sort of one yes but it was mainly to keep the pei plate in place as the mag sheet is soooo smol that the nozzle kept shifting it about

Bit like this one😬

[turbid coral]

Yikes

Tiny printer issues

@unborn merlin I noticed your new tag, why not go with "S0.[serial]?"

Or something similar

ᵥ₀.[serial] subscript

[unborn merlin]

Yep going to be doing that in a sec

Tulip mod is done for now😁

What do we think for the red I've left in?

[turbid coral]

Looks nice actually

[unborn merlin]

I was hoping that, but stuff often seems to work better in my head

Also Sub Disco Sticks

[unborn merlin]

Some more milling on bed plate no2
This one will sport a 50w cartridge heater

[civic crane]

Should’ve just put a 70w heater in there. Heat up super fast

[unborn merlin]

Yeah like 5 seconds
Perfect way to 🌮 the bed🫠

[civic crane]

Bed are just consumables

Just don’t actually eat them

[unborn merlin]

But but but that would mean I have to machine up another one😱😭

[civic crane]

Made it seem like you haven’t 😂

[ruby crescent]

Why not two 30 W heaters?

[unborn merlin]

Tbf i ha e a third mostly done already 🤣

[unborn merlin]

Didn't have them in stock and cash flow has taken a tumble after the wife's birthday 😬

[ruby crescent]

Ouhhhh

[unborn merlin]

So 50w it is.
I'm just going to dial it back in the cfg and start at 10W

[ruby crescent]

But hey, still works

[unborn merlin]

Here's hopin

[ruby crescent]

Yeah

[unborn merlin]

I'll find out soon enough, just finishing off the wiring

[ruby crescent]

Small steppers!!!

So tinyyyy!!!

[unborn merlin]

Yup, nema 14 x 40mm

0.5a max current too🤣

Running them on 16t pullies

[turbid coral]

Oh I like the logo on the back

[unborn merlin]

Thanx, it's ment to be between a petal arrangement and a snow flake

[unborn merlin]

settled on 0.5 max power so 25w and a 3 min heat time from about ambiant to 100 c, not bad
but i kinda want to see what 50w would be like

[civic crane]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-launch-launching-fly-nasa-gif-10035197

[unborn merlin]

gave in to the temptaion😬
50w = 1 min 28 secs heatup time (26-100c)

think ill stick with 25 though and see how it does in testing with part cooling going

[unborn merlin]

I believe the gentleman at the front asked for a speed cube

[unborn merlin]

Well i did a whole cube😁
260mm/s @ 15k

[ruby crescent]

FASTER FASTER!!

That tool head and gantry must weigh less than mine! It has to be able to go faster!

[unborn merlin]

yeah but the motors

[ruby crescent]

ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH IF THOSE MOTORS AINT SCREAMIN!

[unborn merlin]

ill do some more testing a bit later and see what it can do now it has Tulip mod on it

[unborn merlin]

last test saw that it can do 300 @ 20k

ill push it a bit hard soon

[ruby crescent]

Why not try 1000mm/sec at 200k?

[unborn merlin]

defo need bigger motors

ill do bowden hotend and cpap

[ruby crescent]

Hey, I do have the good nema 14 motors!

They even have a long boi shaft!

[unborn merlin]

perfect!
i expect big things then😁

[ruby crescent]

They certainly don't disappoint!

[unborn merlin]

ooooo shiny😍
must resist the shiny
dang it, wallet is empty again😖

i got some 1504's on Blueberry and i really like them

[ruby crescent]

No don't resist the shiny! They are definitely S tier nema 14 motors!

[unborn merlin]

love that vid!
mad accels and way too much speed
sub 0 might self distruct at that pace

must have taken quite a while to dial it in

[ruby crescent]

Yeah, since these motors are kinda rare lmao

But man theyre peppy motors!

[unborn merlin]

and hungry for POWER

[ruby crescent]

I still have my 1684AH motors that I originally used, they are kinda problematic cauz they have quite the VFAs lmao

[ruby crescent]

Oh yeah, 2 amps is real spicy for nema 14s

[unborn merlin]

what board you got driving them?

[ruby crescent]

Mellow Fly TMC5160 Pro

[unborn merlin]

ooooo nice

[ruby crescent]

Yeah

[ruby crescent]

And also the moons motors that I also never used that came with my formbot kit

[unborn merlin]

oh i have the moons motors on my siboor kit V0 (scarlet and cream) and they do quite well
run cooler than the LDO version too

about the same performance mind

[civic crane]

48v drivers when?

[unborn merlin]

ah yes that is in the running but later
got a PITB board to play with

[ruby crescent]

Yeah, I remember they also have 2 amp rated stepper motors but they're a bit hard to get.

[unborn merlin]

pretty shure i can get some of them ones
i have the 1.5a version

same price too afaik

they might be good for the PITB board

what X rail you using?

[ruby crescent]

Z1 preloaded formbot rail

Which I was lucky with the preload lottery

[unborn merlin]

really? wow
i tried a honey badger in the end but killed it in 6 months

[ruby crescent]

Pretty darn close to actual Z1 preload on some of my more expensive SCNEEBERGER rails

[ruby crescent]

Oh jeezus and that's not running it at crazy speeds like mine?

[unborn merlin]

nope
max for me was 800 @ 30k
prety reasonable but yeah the ware caught up with it flinging around
tbf though i print everyday for a minimum of 4 hours and most days its more than 6 so i got a good running with it
its just the price is a bit steep

[ruby crescent]

Thinking about getting a Misumi rail kit

Once I kill something on these poor rails

[unborn merlin]

im prbably going to try an MGN9H rail next, just for kicks and to see if its any better

[ruby crescent]

But heavy

Or actually

If you get rid of X beam then it's worth it

[unborn merlin]

im not going for all out speed i mainly want a good rez graph

high stress means faster ware = more money + more filament gone

[ruby crescent]

Turns out pretty graphs != good shaper result

[unborn merlin]

got to keep it reasonable at least

[unborn merlin]

oooo leme see

[ruby crescent]

As the people in the unicorn chasing channel told me

[unborn merlin]

yeah did my bit of that about a year ago

maintanance means it starts all over again
plus the rail preload lottery (as you mentioned)

my last rail swap saw a loss of 12k accels

[ruby crescent]

Rip

[unborn merlin]

for when you like to live dangerously

[ruby crescent]

When the

[astral elbow]

Is that nozzle bending?

[unborn merlin]

🤣 not quite yet
It was for a.mini spool I've done, it has a 2mm thick edge and then I was printing the white inner part, didn't think about the nozzle might actually scrape over the top of it though but lucky I had about 0.2mm on the first layer.
The slow mo was taken on layer 3

Came out rather nicely

Iron for scale

[astral elbow]

I thought active chamber heating is not allowed, pls remove iron or at least share klipper macros for thr iron

[unborn merlin]

Looks cool in blue

[full stump]

have you got a plan for panels? if not let me know (laser cutter in the garage)

[unborn merlin]

Well i have some old 0.1 2mm pannels that i was going to ise as a dona amd ive joined a local maker space and they have a 30w C02 laser that might just do what i need😁

But i will let you know, amd thank you for the offer🥰

Working on Tulip updates atm so might be a few days yet

[unborn merlin]

Chamber lighting... check

[ruby crescent]

epyc!

[unborn merlin]

its slow progress, but progress non the less

[ruby crescent]

Indeed!

[unborn merlin]

A small update...
Swapped out the 20mm die springs for 15mm ones.
Looks much better and i dont have to crank them down as much now.
Stupid thicker bed making my life more interesting

[vocal patio]

The more I see this thing the more I want to build one. I love it

[unborn merlin]

that build plate works so well with that cartridge heater in it
im most likely going to change the CAD and BOM for it
those 20mm springs were so hard to crank down it hurt my fingers😭

[vocal patio]

I knew throwing a heater cartridge in a block of metal would be a good idea. Plus. You can exceed server limits with that amount of power. Lmao.

[unborn merlin]

hell yeah
ive got a third plate for option three... what ever it is

[vocal patio]

Strap a ceramic heater to a block of metal? 😆

[unborn merlin]

i think we did toy with that idea
might be an option to have a thinner bed

[vocal patio]

At some point I’m gonna play in CAD and make a printed frame for it. Not just printed extrusions.

[unborn merlin]

really need to finish off the frame (top hat) and get panels cut

[unborn merlin]

really

i know @turbid coral did his version of the sub 0 frame that was printed

[vocal patio]

Yep. Perhaps with tulip mod partially built into it. So that it’s an even easier build.

[unborn merlin]

now that would be cool to see

[vocal patio]

I think when I “finish” my TriHex build I will work on that. Need something “cheaper” to build next. Since the v0, micron+, and now TriHex will empty my wallet into dust.

[turbid coral]

Not in one piece mind you, but yeah that was fun. I can share the files if anyone wants. Lots of heatset inserts though 😅

[vocal patio]

Mine will be 4 maybe 5 pieces in total but like modular sections.

[turbid coral]

I did the side rectangles each as one piece and then just regular extrusions for the rest, I'll see if I have pictures

[vocal patio]

I watched you building it. Really good job with it. By chance. Do you have IS graphs from it?

[turbid coral]

Thanks 😁
I actually haven't officially finished it. I'm awful at firmware and can't quite get the pico up. I'm sure if I have another weekend or two at it I could get it up but I've been busy every since I started my trident build. That being said, I don't have much on it. I'll see if I can get anything done in it this week, but I also haven't finished electronics since the parts I have are meant for a toolhead PCB, which I don't have for this printer.

[vocal patio]

Gotcha. Well I’ll be very interested in see graphs when you can. I’m curious if the plastic frame affects anything.

[turbid coral]

Mind you my rails are printed too

[vocal patio]

That’s what I’m really curious about too.

[turbid coral]

I'm gonna have to reprint the x rail in petg with direct contact since I couldn't get the ptfe tube method to work as well on that axis. I was considering maybe just getting a cheapo rail but I'll test printed just for the sake of experiment.

[vocal patio]

I’m curious if you could make it work with an abs rail, ptfe tubes on both sides of it that sort of snap in, and a petg cart that is slightly too small so that it lightly squishes the tube. Perhaps need a bit of ptfe grease in there to allow it to move smoothly.

[turbid coral]

That's what I did on the other rails but it didn't really work on x with how heavy the toolhead was. Maybe with more experimentation it could but I don't have that time tbh.

Oh wait, for the flex of the petg?

Or something else

[vocal patio]

The petg is because the glycol in it makes it a slippery filament. Means things rubbing on it don’t wear it nearly as fast as abs or pla.

[turbid coral]

Oh well for the concept, then yes that's what I did. Just might not last as long.

I'm trying direct contact on x so it will be crucial to use petg there though

[vocal patio]

Definitely add grease of some kind to it. Personally I think ptfe grease makes sense but it could also just be abrasive. I really should build a test setup for this. Lol.

I really need to get up and go wire the v0 finally…

[turbid coral]

We need a CNC kitchen video on this

[uneven spire]

Old msg reply..but I forgotten about this thread and just saw this 😂 that's amazing that you printed a mini spool for it

One trick I've done in the past is make the interface between the 2 colors the same angle as the cone in the nozzle then it wont hit like that if that makes sense

[unborn merlin]

oh it didnt hit and id done as you said, had a 45 chamfer on the inside of the ring
it was mainly an oversight of how thick the rim was compared to the nozzle height
it almost touched 🤏

[uneven spire]

Ah ok ... perfect 😂 that's so cool I really want to do a subzero one of these days

[unborn merlin]

got a few things to polish up on the cad now that ive built it but its about 90% done
also got to finish the docs for it

[plain rain]

Wait chat we can just print the frame?

Finally a good use for my PET-CF from other brands I didn't like as much

[civic crane]

Nope, you need to finish your trident first

[civic crane]

Just a reminder @plain rain

[plain rain]

How the fuck

That's different server business but yea this would be after

I think it would compliment the setup
Little baby printer
V0 abomination
Anything but Tiny, Insulated Trident

[turbid coral]

Ive got a micron, a subzero (that I'm too busy to finish), and a 400mm trident with a 4040 frame

[turbid coral]

Ofc 😁
(It's definitely square )

[civic crane]

Nah, you need a cheese fork that can print psu now

#1277056619380867092 message

[vocal patio]

You better be annealing that frame if you do it.

[plain rain]

Only the finest annealing in the air fryer immediately yeeted in at 160C.

[unborn merlin]

So its been a while sinse i did anything here but here are a few snaps of sub 0 at SMRRF🥰

Thanx to @hasty rapids for the bed goo to keep prints where they should be😁

I have some interesting ideas to toy with so there should be somthing new to look at soon™

[full stump]

very glad i got to see it for real, very cool lil beastie

[turbid coral]

So cool 🤩

[vocal patio]

Hey look! wd2240! 🤣

[gilded ridge]

Looks like catvom so @primal fog as well 😄 (for anyone looking to buy some of the good stuff)

Its a pretty little silly thing as well, I want one even more now xD

Seeing it printing was great

[unborn merlin]

Thanx @gilded ridge
Was great seeing you there🥰

[unborn merlin]

Should have put some on the bed

Sooo... 48v steppers?

[primal fog]

I mean, 5160s are supposed to support 60v right?

AWD?

[unborn merlin]

I have a pitb board 🤣

Sub 0 now nailed to a concrete slab

[vocal patio]

Do it!

[unborn merlin]

Duel power supply madness😁

[vocal patio]

Not all support 60v. Most support 48v. And a few only support 36v. Depends on the driver itself.

[unborn merlin]

Mine will do 48v👍

Ill have to dig it out

[vocal patio]

Just use a 24v to 48v boost converter. You only need 1-2a anyways. A 50w one will be plenty for even 1.5a to each motor.

[unborn merlin]

Wooh stedy on
Motor max is 0.4a on these puppies🫠

Tbf though even at 0.35a and on 16t pullies it still does 300 @ 20k

And nearly falls over in the process

[gilded ridge]

@lofty nexus should have given you some of those 17t ones, brought some curse in to the sub-zero

[vocal patio]

So yea. I’d just use a 50w boost instead of another psu

[civic crane]

I have a 12v -> 48v converter

You want it lol

[unborn merlin]

Yes please🤣

Id need nema 8 motors for it to work
I looked at the nema 14s and it wont fit

[vocal patio]

Do it! 🤣

[civic crane]

If you pay for shipping, it’s yours. Dm me and we’ll get er done

[unborn merlin]

Might have to do another 9ne for crazy mods

[unborn merlin]

Will do

[civic crane]

You technically can… it would have to routed outside of the printer though

[vocal patio]

Wait! Do it like Bambu labs. One stepper but a pulley and belt system that connects all 3.

[uneven spire]

use the 28byj-48 steppers can get a pack of 5 for $15 on amazon

with m3 threaded rods as the leadscrew 🤣

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800175960791.html
or one of these would be pretty funny

[lofty nexus]

make the base be extra-tall and stagger them in height!

[unborn merlin]

I have this kit

[vocal patio]

That is our job yes.

[uneven spire]

no its stands for Dollars Out Of My pocket

[unborn merlin]

Yep all still there🤣

Got a 6th motor here
So 4 for z
2 for xy

[uneven spire]

build the ToyRep

[vocal patio]

The Voron v2.4 we have at home

[unborn merlin]

Mini clicky?

Sorry sub clicky

[uneven spire]

ToyRep printer uses all 28byj steppers

[unborn merlin]

Thats epic🥰

[uneven spire]

there is also the MicroCube that uses those for Z with a threaded rod

but check out printables there are a bunch of neat projects that use them https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=28byj

[unborn merlin]

Soooo anyone want to sponsor me a frame?

[unborn merlin]

Thats some cool stuff

I was thinking about going smaller with sub 0... pygmy 0?
25mm build
0.25 nozzle

[unborn merlin]

Dr pym 0🤣

[ruby crescent]

not small enough! not fast enough!!!!

[gilded ridge]

Just print a frame on sub-zero

[unborn merlin]

That was suggested at smrrf

[wanton rose]

Was fun to see that little cute machine live at SMRRF
excited for that Filament idea

[unborn merlin]

funny you should mention that

i have been getting hardware specs to get this idea working
looks promising so far
just gro to sort the base for the printer to sit on
and of course it all has to be printable on a V0

[wanton rose]

[civic crane]

Multimaterial?

[nocturne venture]

Lazy Susan spool holder with a slip ring for power

[wanton rose]

[full stump]

poor susan

she's not lazy she just has chronic fatigue

[uneven spire]

why does it need power?

[nocturne venture]

The spool stays. The printer turns

Being turned around by pulling filament off the spool. So it's self propelling

[uneven spire]

use an m4 extruder , but use a longer shaft with it and have a 2nd belt to connect to the spool to spin the printer as its extruding

[unborn merlin]

Yes

[unborn merlin]

The idea has merit🫠

[outer cape]

got to get this project back on track

[uneven spire]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-alive-amazed-surprised-good-to-hear-from-you-welcome-back-gif-16482543

great to see you back in the discord!

[nocturne venture]

Where lazy Susan spool holder?

[outer cape]

Yes its great to be back with all my friends🥰

[outer cape]

WIP unfortunately
Being broke isnt helping either🤣

[wanton rose]

Oooi,

[hasty rapids]

Identifying as a printer is pretty damn cool though!

[outer cape]

Helloooo
Ready to make more magic

[outer cape]

I identify as a lot of things

[gilded ridge]

[outer cape]

Hey dude, long time no see😋

[outer cape]

Still got the bits in my checkout bag

Funds are tight atm

[iron abyss]

Oh boy, you're back 😄 Welcome!

[outer cape]

thanx, its is indeed good to be home again

[outer cape]

Been thinking on how to up.my game with sub 0...
How does Sub Clacker sound😋

[full stump]

picoclacker

[civic crane]

Little pecker

[languid umbra]

The MinMax toolchanger.

[outer cape]

I could run with that
Sub mmu?

[outer cape]

I like this name😍

[outer cape]

pico clacker and extended front skirts

@hasty rapids i did a thing

[tiny imp]

needs twist lock panel clips and mini tulip

[vocal patio]

Put a full size box turtle on it. 🤣

[hasty rapids]

Tiny door!

[wanton rose]

isn't it missing some tulip stuff? :p

[outer cape]

Or pico lith full height panels

Tulip is already on the real one, just not updated the CAD😉

[outer cape]

Maybe

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-baking-kat-dennings-cook-2broke-girls-gif-27376842

[outer cape]

Petal is looking at bit sad after being in the loft

[wanton rose]

Poor baby!

[outer cape]

My issue is my rails are line a z-10 for pre load so they are really bad and i paid 60 quid for them too😬

I might get some new balls (ha ha balls) in to increase the preload

That would be great 👍

I need to do this still, @stable wolf gifted me a Z2 mgn9c 🥰

[outer cape]

got to resize them a little but panel clips are on at least

@torpid orchid baby is growing up😊

[outer cape]

Its soooo cute🥰

[modest current]

What’s the build volume like?

[nocturne venture]

Cube

[modest current]

Ah ye sounds big

How big of a cube

Capy sized?

[wanton rose]

Literally Voron Cube

[outer cape]

42x42x42mm😋

[outer cape]

spent a bit of time dialing in the new size for the panel clips, still a litle more to do to get them to work with the Pico Clacker door latch and hinges though

[outer cape]

Thats amazing! And thankyou🥰 💜
This should defo help with some performance issue Sub 0 has been suffering with.

I normally bin mine due to the extreme nature of...

[nocturne venture]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-hotdog-down-a-hallway-tight-too-tight-salami-werfen-gif-14909371

[outer cape]

Theres just nothing you can do with these

[outer cape]

SAUSAGE

[full stump]

https://tenor.com/bdRMM.gif

[outer cape]

Ah Mr bom, keep meaning to ask.
Are you still happy for me to pop down if i can get some PC sheet to cut some panels?
I might be tempted to go full height if i get enough encouragement 😋

[full stump]

i'd like to do a test of some PC first so if you link me to your supplier i can get some.

my friends who cut stuff for mechboards.co.uk have not had fun results on a 100W machine- stinky/burnt edges

if i can cut it the machine time is yours with love xx

[outer cape]

Would acrylic work better? Or is it the same?

[full stump]

acrylic is the bread and butter of this machine

[outer cape]

Lets go for that then
Im not going for silly chamber temps😋

[full stump]

https://www.sheetplastics.co.uk/ take your pick 🙂

[outer cape]

Ooooo thanx🥰
Now... clear or coloured...
Or both

[full stump]

sent you a dee-emm.

i'd say clear for the door and coloured elsewhere

[wanton rose]

Coloured!

[vocal patio]

Clear door and tinted for everything else. It’s

[full stump]

i'll be setting the laser pixies to work on DR's choices

[outer cape]

Awww they look so cute🥰

[outer cape]

Almost
Gone for white back and clear sides and front