Delete the BMM Game Rules entry entirely (see p. 103, BMM). Additionally, the weapon can now use
Artemis IV FCS.
#MISSILES - Extended Range LRMs (ELRMs)
sudden seal
dusty radish
Oooh
silver hollow
Makes em even fatter though
Don't shame
lone mountain
I think it was something like inside minimum range they do less damage or something
dusty radish
Oh! Well that will be big if so
silver hollow
I think it was something like inside minimum range they do less damage or someth...
Like Thunderbolts?
Honestly that only matters if you're already screwed
burnt moon
Yeah, no half damage inside minimum anymore, which is pretty notable with a 10 hex minimum range
silver hollow
I guess you could hot-load more effectively now
burnt moon
Same as currently actually. Hot-loading removes minimum range, and as you aren't in minimum range (you don't have one) you don't deal half damage for being in minimum range.
silver hollow
Is that how that works?
No, it's not
Hot-loading removes minimum-range modifiers
That wasn't a modifier, so it remained
distant prairie
Nice, straight buff
silver hollow
Still dubious pseudo-artillery, but leaning into the strengths better
lone mountain
It's still weird that a 5-rack is 6 tons, and a 10-rack is 8 tons.
And 20 racks are 18 tons!?
And they only get a max of 80 damage per ton of ammo. But hm, I hadn't ever considered using them with C3.
dusty radish
Or C3 plus new NARC
dusty radish
Do they only get standard ammo? I thought that had some special ammo......
Man I really gotta go look at all em again 😆
silver hollow
Do they only get standard ammo? I thought that had some special ammo......
Man ...
Nope, just Artemis, and that's new with this proposal
dusty radish
Still will be a big help and oww
silver hollow
Another reason to favor Arrow IVs, which have a truly horrifying variety to choose from
Though I reject them in 'Mechs on principle
I recommend trying this with the Apollo 4M
rare mango
Or C3 plus new NARC
They just get artemis. Not Narc
silver hollow
The Apollo 4M is a fun one
Just tinker with it a bit
I think you can swap out CASE II for Artemis IV cleanly?
lone mountain
Though I reject them in 'Mechs on principle
XLRM 20 is 18 tons, 8 slots, 12 heat
Arrow IV is 15 tons, 15 slots, 10 heat
I think I might just want an extended-range thunderbolt to give a "big missile" to mechs, without using artillery rules.
silver hollow
XLRM 20 is 18 tons, 8 slots, 12 heat
Arrow IV is 15 tons, 15 slots, 10 heat
I t...
Like a missile version of an artillery cannon?
lone mountain
Maybe?
I'm surprised there aren't alternative t-bolt munitions that do area damage.
silver hollow
I'm surprised there aren't alternative Thunderbolt munitions, full stop
rare mango
Like a missile version of an artillery cannon?
You know. I actually wouldnt mind that . . .
Shoot. I wouldnt mind it as just an alternate arty ammo [though a more cannon like launcher would be cool]
dusty radish
I feel like thats what TBolts SHOULD be though XD
rare mango
They are still 1 dmg cluster though
This would be cluster 5 like other cannons
[Though i still agree]
dusty radish
Extended being hotter, heavier, 2/3rds the size, and less shots per ton than an Arrow IV is just funny given that the only real bonus is faster flight (arrow can only reach 17 in on round) and maybe accuracy (no arty negative but you have to deal with TMM)
And cluster table vs cluster 5 AoE
dusty radish
By 4 for the same "size" launcher
rare mango
Yup xD