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lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Banana Copter
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level                Era                                                     
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Experimental         2455-2999 (Age of War to Late Succession Wars - LosTech)
Advanced             3000+ (Late Succession Wars - LosTech -)                
Standard             -                                                       
Tech Rating: D/X-F-F-F

Weight: 15 tons
BV: 378
Cost: 782,625 C-bills
Source: (Unknown)
Role: Scout

Movement: 8/12(16) (VTOL)
Engine: 25 ICE

Internal: 10
Armor: 32 (Standard)
       Internal  Armor    
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Front      2       8      
Right      2       8      
Left       2       8      
Rear       2       6      
Rotor      2       2      

Weapons        Loc      Heat    
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Machine Gun     FR        0     
Machine Gun     FR        0     
LRM 5           FR        2     
LRM 5           FR        2     

Ammo                     Loc  Shots  
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LRM 5 Ammo                BD    24   
Machine Gun Ammo [Half]   BD   100   

Equipment         Loc  
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Mast Mount         RO  
Recon Camera       FR  
VTOL Jet Booster   BD  

Quirks
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Fragile Fuel Tank
Narrow/Low Profile
Poor Performance

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Just experimenting with the combat vehicle maker.

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a few things confuse me, such as the tech rating.

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hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Keep in mind that the firing arc for left/right on vehicles are garbage and extremely ill suited to being used as weapons

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:09 PM

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it's a dog gamn helicopter. What part of this thing could possibly be lost tech?

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ICE engine, standard armour (because I can't choose primitive), normal weapons, cameras...
"Tech Rating: D/X-F-F-F"

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:15 PM

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hollow glen Keep in mind that the firing arc for left/right on vehicles are garbage and extr...

As long as they can fire forwards

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:15 PM

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They cannot

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Not from side arcs

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You should review the firing arcs in the Total War book

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:17 PM

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so in this game, where would the missile pods on an Apache be?

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:17 PM

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Front

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:17 PM

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Fornt means front facing, dosn't always mean front mounted

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:18 PM

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You should review the vehicle firing arcs in the book though

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:18 PM

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As front facing weapons can still be moutned tords the back of a vehicle

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See things like the man Carrier vehicles as an example.

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Also is this a combat vic or a support vic?

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If this is a combat vic, you do not need the advance fire control. Its build in

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:21 PM

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well, that leaves a half ton free, but I can't put anything else useful on because there's not enough free slots

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:22 PM

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Armor

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:22 PM

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Or up the MG ammot o a full ton

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:22 PM

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Or add a half ton rocket launcher pod

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:23 PM

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rocket pods unavailable pre-Y3K

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:23 PM

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Expermental

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:23 PM

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Pretty sure the prototypes are

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Prototype rockets are pre-spacefligbt i think...

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:23 PM

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Yeah Prototype.. which ar emor ejust VERY PRIMATIVE Rocket pods are if you go with exmternal tech

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:24 PM

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considering even though I set the tech level to standard this thing is still considered tech level D...

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:25 PM

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D just means its AoW or Succesion wars era

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:25 PM

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Yea tech level D is still standard

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And the two sre not related

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Heck, a clan er med laser is tech level F but still standard

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:26 PM

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If you really want to go A, B, or C... you need to switch to a support vehicle. As its hard to get a combat vehicle down below D.

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Yep

hollow stone Apr 23, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Epsially if you are using modern systems liek the LRM

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:34 PM

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I just went with more armour

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now every side (but the rotor) can take at least a medium laser

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:37 PM

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That's generally a good baseline to have

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And to be fair the rotor can too, due to how rotor damage mechanics work lol

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The rotor is the most durable part of that design up there lol

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 6:41 PM

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the machine guns and LRMs are for targets of opportunity

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Unnamed VTOL Scout and Friend

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Banana Bunch VTOL
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level                Era                 
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Experimental         2455+ (Age of War -)
Advanced             -                   
Standard             3145+ (Dark Ages -) 
Tech Rating: D/X-X-X-D

Weight: 60 tons
BV: 1,172
Cost: 7,470,000 C-bills
Source: (Unknown)

Movement: 6/9(12) (VTOL)
Engine: 130 ICE

Internal: 30
Armor: 80 (Standard)
       Internal  Armor    
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Front      6       25     
Right      6       19     
Left       6       19     
Rear       6       15     
Rotor      6       2      

Weapons      Loc      Heat    
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LRM 20        FR        6     
LRM 20        FR        6     

Ammo         Loc  Shots  
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LRM 20 Ammo   BD    6    
LRM 20 Ammo   BD    6    
LRM 20 Ammo   BD    6    
LRM 20 Ammo   BD    6    

Equipment         Loc  
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VTOL Jet Booster   BD  

Quirks
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VTOL Rotor Arrangement (Dual Rotors)
Poor Performance

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LRM Carrier VTOL Edition

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 6:56 PM

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That is terrifyingly under-armored and would be shot down immediately

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And yes it's about as fragile as an lrm carrier, lrm carriers don't cost 38m cbills xD

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If you drop to just 2x20, normal XL or fuel cell engine, and more armor it'd be a very solid design

lone bluff Apr 23, 2025, 7:03 PM

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yeah, dropping the third LRM and changing the engine brought everything in line

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wow, 38 mill c-bills down to 7.4 mill. XXL engines cost way too much

hollow glen Apr 23, 2025, 7:06 PM

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They really do

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Fuel cell engines are cheap and waaaaay lighter than ICE

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Lighter than standard fusion (heavier than XL), and cheaper than both

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But doesn't provide heatsinks, so they're most useful for missile and ballistic based vehicles

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