Base Tech Level: Advanced Mixed (Base Clan)
Level Era
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Experimental 3050-3151 (Clan Invasion to ilClan)
Advanced 3152+ (ilClan -)
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-X-E
Weight: 100 tons
BV: 3,092
Cost: 45,537,750 C-bills
Source: Total Chaos
Role: Juggernaut
Movement: 4/6(8)/4
Engine: 400 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 13 [26]
Cockpit: Standard Cockpit
Gyro: Heavy Duty Gyro
Internal: 152 (Endo Steel)
Armor: 193/307
Internal Armor
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Head 3 9 Hardened
Center Torso 31 30 Hardened
Center Torso (rear) 8
Right Torso 21 22 Hardened
Right Torso (rear) 5
Left Torso 21 22 Hardened
Left Torso (rear) 5
Right Arm 17 21 Hardened
Left Arm 17 21 Hardened
Right Leg 21 25 Ferro-Fibrous
Left Leg 21 25 Ferro-Fibrous
Weapons Loc Heat
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MML 7 (IS) RT 4
MML 7 (IS) LT 4
ER Large Laser HD 12
Medium Pulse Laser RT 4
Medium Pulse Laser LT 4
Ammo Loc Shots
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MML 7 LRM Artemis-capable Ammo LT 17
MML 7 LRM Artemis-capable Ammo RT 17
MML 7 SRM Artemis-capable Ammo LT 14
MML 7 SRM Artemis-capable Ammo RT 14
Equipment Loc
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Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Artemis IV FCS (IS) LT
Artemis IV FCS (IS) RT
Supercharger CT
Quirks
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Battle Fists (LA)
Battle Fists (RA)
Distracting
Command Mek
Improved Communications```
KARATE ATLAS FLYING KICK#Karate Atlas
high sapphire
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So if you use IJJ's and a partial wing, you can make a 100 ton mech jump 7
And I'd say drop the heavy duty Gyro, if you want a sturdy Gyro I think you're better off with a compact Gyro that you add armoring to, if memory serves
high sapphire
Not got the space for 6 IJJs, sadly
MML 7s are pretty big
And the Wing makes it harder to trip the TSM
And going for IJJs also really hurts the armour
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This is the design I used for my karate atlas way back:
Base Tech Level: Advanced Mixed (Base Clan)
Level Era
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Experimental 3072-3149 (Jihad to Dark Ages)
Advanced 3150+ (Dark Ages -)
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-X-E
Weight: 100 tons
BV: 2,781
Cost: 33,784,533 C-bills
Source: Civil War
Movement: 4/6/7
Engine: 400 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [23]
Cockpit: Standard Cockpit
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 152 (Endo Steel)
Armor: 296/307 (Standard)
Internal Armor
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Head 3 9
Center Torso 31 45
Center Torso (rear) 14
Right Torso 21 32
Right Torso (rear) 10
Left Torso 21 32
Left Torso (rear) 10
Right Arm 17 32
Left Arm 17 32
Right Leg 21 40
Left Leg 21 40
Weapons Loc Heat
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ER Medium Laser LA 5
ER Medium Laser LA 5
ER Medium Laser RA 5
ER Medium Laser RA 5
ER Small Laser CT 2
ER Small Laser CT 2
Medium Pulse Laser HD 4
Equipment Loc
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Talons RL/LL
Partial Wing RT/LT
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RT
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LT
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
I've also got a version with an XXL engine if cbills are not an issue lol
if you're determined to have missiles, a clan ATM6 would probably be better than MML 7 for space and tonnage and overall damage
dual ATM6's would save 3 tons and 3 slots total
1 ton/slot from each launcher and 1 ton/slot from only needing 3 bins of ammo instead of 4
oh actually 5 slots and 5 tons
since atm's already include artemis
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yea, I like ATM's for the same reason
they lose the 2-point damage clustering of straight SRM's but gain a lot of overall damage and a better min range for the longer range ammo types
but I adore switchable ammo weapons
high sapphire
What about iATMS?
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I try to avoid those since they're OP as hell and are supposed to only be available to the Society during the War of Reaving in the Clan Homeworlds and never would have made their way to the IS
they're not techncially extinct though
at least not iatm's with the normal 3 ammo types. The magpulse and inferno iATM ammo are fully extinct after the WoR
high sapphire
Uh, okay then!
Base Tech Level: Advanced Mixed (Base Clan)
Level Era
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Experimental 3067-3151 (Civil War to ilClan)
Advanced 3152+ (ilClan -)
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-X-E
Weight: 100 tons
BV: 3,491
Cost: 46,446,167 C-bills
Source: Total Chaos
Role: Juggernaut
Movement: 4/6(8)/5
Engine: 400 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [23]
Cockpit: Standard Cockpit
Gyro: Heavy Duty Gyro
Internal: 152 (Endo Steel)
Armor: 202/307
Internal Armor
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Head 3 9 Hardened
Center Torso 31 28 Hardened
Center Torso (rear) 9
Right Torso 21 22 Hardened
Right Torso (rear) 6
Left Torso 21 22 Hardened
Left Torso (rear) 6
Right Arm 17 21 Hardened
Left Arm 17 21 Hardened
Right Leg 21 29 Ferro-Fibrous
Left Leg 21 29 Ferro-Fibrous
Weapons Loc Heat
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ER Large Laser HD 12
Medium Pulse Laser RT 4
Medium Pulse Laser LT 4
ATM 6 LT 4
ATM 6 RT 4
Ammo Loc Shots
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High-Explosive ATM/6 Ammo LT 10
High-Explosive ATM/6 Ammo RT 10
Standard ATM/6 Ammo LT 10
Extended-Range ATM/6 Ammo RT 10
Equipment Loc
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Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Supercharger RT
Partial Wing RT/LT
Quirks
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Battle Fists (LA)
Battle Fists (RA)
Distracting
Command Mek
Reinforced Legs
Improved Communications```
Version with ATMs and Partial WingI imagine the 5 move when jumping would be pretty useful, all things considered
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that armor is still dangerously thin for a brawler though
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Hardened
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and you'll most likely have to disable some heatsinks during gameplay to get up to TSM heat levels
high sapphire
Double them numbers
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I'm still partial to using an armored compact gyro over a heavy duty gyro, but eh
high sapphire
Note the head-mounted ER large as well
We have a proper eyeball laser here, not a Small one
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I did, but that's only 12 heat, and IJJ's cut your jump heat in half
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This is currently at 32/23, so if I give it the full leap and fire everything I can trigger TSM in 1 turn
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that math is incorrect unless I missed something, if you full jump and fire everything that's only 31 heat
28 from weapons, 3 from jump
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4, these are normal JJs
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might be less from jump, I believe the partial wing ALSO reduces your jump heat in addition to the 3 extra sinking
oh gotcha
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Base Tech Level: Advanced Mixed (Base Clan)
Level Era
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Experimental 3067-3151 (Civil War to ilClan)
Advanced 3152+ (ilClan -)
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-X-E
Weight: 100 tons
BV: 3,533
Cost: 43,310,750 C-bills
Source: Total Chaos
Role: Juggernaut
Movement: 4/6(8)/5
Engine: 400 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [23]
Cockpit: Standard Cockpit
Gyro: Compact Gyro (armored)
Internal: 152 (Endo Steel)
Armor: 221/307
Internal Armor
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Head 3 9 Hardened
Center Torso 31 30 Hardened
Center Torso (rear) 10
Right Torso 21 25 Hardened
Right Torso (rear) 7
Left Torso 21 25 Hardened
Left Torso (rear) 7
Right Arm 17 23 Hardened
Left Arm 17 23 Hardened
Right Leg 21 31 Ferro-Fibrous
Left Leg 21 31 Ferro-Fibrous
Weapons Loc Heat
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ER Large Laser HD 12
Medium Pulse Laser RT 4
Medium Pulse Laser LT 4
ATM 6 LT 4
ATM 6 RT 4
Ammo Loc Shots
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High-Explosive ATM/6 Ammo LT 10
High-Explosive ATM/6 Ammo RT 10
Standard ATM/6 Ammo LT 10
Extended-Range ATM/6 Ammo RT 10
Equipment Loc
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Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) RA
Triple Strength Myomer (IS) LA
Supercharger RT
Partial Wing RT/LT
Quirks
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Battle Fists (LA)
Battle Fists (RA)
Distracting
Command Mek
Reinforced Legs
Improved Communications```
And with the Compact Gyro (Armoured) I can take a bit more armour! I had the foot actuators armoured before as well, but I much prefer this lineupok yea looks like MML is corect, the partial wing does reduce jump heat but only by the amount of extra jump it provides, so in this case 1
which ends up at 32 heat like you said
heavy dune
And I'd say drop the heavy duty Gyro, if you want a sturdy Gyro I think you're b...
I want to say that's right
high sapphire
Smaller, lighter, no downsides to Piloting rolls
But it's also effectively the same thing, because Armouring a component means it ignores the first crit, right?
heavy dune
So yea Saklad reminded me that while ferro legs will get movement back you still have the +1 PSR from hardened anywhere
But yes armored ignores one crit to that slot
high sapphire
I wonder if I can make Karate Atlas faster.....
heavy dune
Shy of an XXL i doubt it