CZN gooner gang godz only

[hasty hearth]

the rest after just tiny stat boost

[mellow bolt]

lvl limit?

[hasty hearth]

but they did say they were going to make even more business model changes

yeah

[mellow bolt]

is lvl limit just more dmg?

[hasty hearth]

iirc i think ordinarily the lvl limit of a character was 180? (could be wrong)

3rd dupe raises their lvl limit to 200

[mellow bolt]

ohhh

of the character

wtf lol

[hasty hearth]

yeah

i mean i guess technically it's just stats

but it also enhances the character's passive

[mellow bolt]

yeh you gotta get those to be competitive then

i guess we gotta half whale it

[hasty hearth]

well

it doesnt enhance speed

so u got that going for u

[mellow bolt]

wait a minute so can a f2p with good speed rng beat a full whale?

[hasty hearth]

yeah

literally speed wars

since there is no other strategy

[mellow bolt]

etheria all over again before the turn 2 meta

[hasty hearth]

except

there is no turn 2 meta

there is no turn 2 in star savior

[mellow bolt]

so might as well just play a bunch of f2p accounts

and whichever one gets the best speed rng gear, whale on that

cause if you max out characters on 1 account and get shit speed rng, then youre gonna lose all the time = instant quit

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt from what ive read they improved business model by the following:

1. packs give 25% more currency
2. rates were buffed: iirc original rate was 1.5%? (somewhere around there) now it's 4% for SSR

[granite hull]

Day 1000 of looking for God speed rolls on gear like er

[hasty hearth]

and apparently they are going to make further improvements to it

which kind of surprised about

4% rates for SSR is kind of crazy

especially when u only need 3 dupes

[granite hull]

Dt had the same, and not once I pulled a unit before the last 10 summon to guarantee

4% is not very high either to begin with

[hasty hearth]

compared to majority

4% is very high

[hasty hearth]

endfield is like what .8%? all mihoyo is .6%. e7 is 1%

[granite hull]

May as well write an ssr coming in XYZ pull why give hope

[hasty hearth]

and thing is

typically for "high rate" gachas u need like 5 million dupes

[mellow bolt]

you should see in pokemon TCG pocket, i m hitting these 0.01% cards like its nothing

[hasty hearth]

star savior u only need 3 that's why i think it's abnormally high

[mellow bolt]

meanwhile other games i can never get a SSR without pity

how much to pity though for star savior?

[granite hull]

Probably a typo , meant to write 10% there

[hasty hearth]

uh fuq idr let me try to see in my old images

[mellow bolt]

it feels like it.... if i had that kind of luck with real life pokemon cards, it would be a money printer

[drifting flame]

Send some luck

[gaunt sluice]

acc lucc diff

[mellow bolt]

you play that game too?

[drifting flame]

Reroll life

[drifting flame]

Don’t u see me lurk there

[gaunt sluice]

u rerolled the lucky acc

[granite hull]

I mean it tries to get money out of those people who can't keep ripping packs irl to give them the same feel virtually

[drifting flame]

Reroll life win lottery profit

[granite hull]

You can aim for gen1 Charizard card finally

[gaunt sluice]

if u reroll why not actually just invest for being paid for life by doing nothing

[mellow bolt]

i bought 2 accounts with 500 pulls each, they alrdy came with like 2.5-3k cards, pulled 200 times, now i have all the meta decks + a whole shit load of super rare shiny holographic whatever whatever cards lol

[drifting flame]

And no resale value

[drifting flame]

Dafq time to do that too

I’m missing too many

[mellow bolt]

the accounts were dirt cheap on g2g like $3 lol

[hasty hearth]

@runic jewel played JP server on release so he might know

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

but iirc there was 2 pities

[granite hull]

Gotta gamble thousands to get thousands

[hasty hearth]

there was banner pity itself

which i think was 120? idr u would have to ask mercy

[gaunt sluice]

have a bot rip packs for you

[hasty hearth]

and then pull currency pity kind of like czn shop

where u can buy whatever

[mellow bolt]

yeh it's actually a great way to satisfy gacha addiction

[hasty hearth]

oh and rate was 2.5% -> 4% not 1.5%

but still dont think ive seen gachas buff rates like that except goty tribe9

[mellow bolt]

120????????

brother

[hasty hearth]

according to mercy

they gave a lot of pulls

[granite hull]

You won't feel much difference in either of those 3 rates

[hasty hearth]

he got like 300 pulls or somethin at the start

[mellow bolt]

120 pity and we need 4 copies of each character to just go mid way

this is gonna be the most expensive game ever

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

well at least u can cope on 4% rates instead of .6%

[mellow bolt]

that 4% is only 4% higher than 0%

[hasty hearth]

for pity i really dont remember

mercy would probably know

the only thing i can definitely say is the pity shop with pity currency or whatever kind of like czn shop

[granite hull]

I got a new habit of buying legendary and mythic skins in codm as well, there's that Part of reason for leaving dt is my wallet can't keep up

[mellow bolt]

i guess we'll see soon enough

[granite hull]

So no more expensive games

[mellow bolt]

but if it's coming out in march or april, ill have to skip

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

iirc march was their target global date

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth are you gonna play any of the new seasons? for LE/poe2/d4

[drifting flame]

31st March

[hasty hearth]

not le or d4

poe2 probably yeah but that wont be coming for a while no?

isn't the poe1 league coming in march

[drifting flame]

Wait 19 March

[mellow bolt]

i think some time in april

[hasty hearth]

yeah if poe1 league coming march then poe2 would come april

[mellow bolt]

oh LE new season march 26, guess we can play star savior for a week lol

[hasty hearth]

im not gonna play le

imma just make @fallen kindle this rat play it and tell me if their new korean overlords is ruining the game

[mellow bolt]

i m surprised you dont play that

[hasty hearth]

i did play it

[mellow bolt]

oh shit diablo 4 expansion coming out the same time as poe2 new season...

[hasty hearth]

bro u serious?

that's easiest decision of my life

[mellow bolt]

gotta play both

[hasty hearth]

fk d4

[mellow bolt]

diablo 4 gets boring after about a week though

it's fun for like 4 days

[hasty hearth]

yeah why would i pay for that

when i can just play poe for free

[mellow bolt]

what i like about d4 is i dont have to go through the same campaign every single damn time like poe2

[hasty hearth]

i dont mind that tbh but i can understand why people dont like to do that

[mellow bolt]

btw i tried the darkhaven demo

it's actually good and it's in prealpha stage

[hasty hearth]

da heck is that

oh just saw the steam trailer

this destructible environment kinda trippy

is it like big boom boom fast clearing?

[mellow bolt]

nope

was pretty slow

not that diff from poe2 tbh

[lyric osprey]

So much yappin what happen

[drifting flame]

CZN dead

[hasty hearth]

no just u

[lyric osprey]

Shut it go back to

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1428972657260494859.webp?size=128&animated=true

[hallow trout]

any cool ones drop?

[hasty hearth]

when spending is involved end makes his way back

thats my korean ceo

[granite hull]

Recent was lachmann 556 and xm4 mythics. I got the xm4 skin. Next I am waiting for oden and vmp legendary draws, both the operators and gun skin designs looks sick

Other than the fact that i don't have legendary or mythic for these 2 meta guns

[hallow trout]

[hallow trout]

I got the xm4 when it 1st dropped. have that and the locus Phoenix mythic

[hallow trout]

im a tcg bro now

[hasty hearth]

for now

[granite hull]

Nice can't go wrong with both of these. I have xm4 , ak117 lava and s0-14 for now

I don't even play s0-14 but keep it to flex and swap to other loadout

The ar version is mid and I am a thumbs player to core. The marksman version is pretty op for this gun

[hallow trout]

my 3 main guns have never changed lol

locus, xm4, qq9

[granite hull]

Qq9 got a buff recently so all are meta weapons this season. Good for you i guess

[hallow trout]

[granite hull]

My favourite would be not so meta holger I guess, the legendary skin I have on it is goated

[hallow trout]

if i feel evil I always go shotty and melee

by15

[granite hull]

Nah can't be me I play at safe range but no snipers

Were you able to hit top5k/10k

?

[hasty hearth]

disgusting

[granite hull]

My kind of evil when I see a thermite player

[hallow trout]

uh not top player, consistent legendary 10k+ elo near end of season but def not that good lol

[hallow trout]

come play to

[granite hull]

Ah same then, last season I tried a bit to go under 10k global rank but I only went to 12000+ish elo and I don't think I got anywhere close

[lyric osprey]

@hasty hearth

This is the new morale battry

put it on whoever you want to be your morale buffer prayge you get the epi

And dupe it

And do OTK

[fallen kindle]

if the new league is good I'll play it

[unkempt arrow]

School pretty much about to be over

Can come back

Account searching is kinda ass tho cuz most of the acc are pretty mid

[hasty hearth]

u just need sereniel really

[unkempt arrow]

What about Nine

[hasty hearth]

u can, but entirely skippable

i mean sereniel still the only limited character so u can get everyone else naturally

[unkempt arrow]

Bet

[still sedge]

nice is fun af to play manually

but for afk sereniel pretty solid

nine does have a decent auto build but the AI does some stupid shit sometimes

[unkempt arrow]

Ima get her

She seems fun and realistically Yuki prolly still trash

Even with buffs

So we go with Nine

[hasty hearth]

well my brother beat all content with yuki

[unkempt arrow]

Not the biggest feat

She works ofc

[hasty hearth]

he beat it before the buffs

[unkempt arrow]

And she isn’t dog

Still mid im assuming

I haven’t seen the buffs

[hasty hearth]

quite nice

her partner became 2 cost draw 2 iirc

instead of 3 cost draw 1

other than that she just got damage buff

[unkempt arrow]

Her damage tho

What does it look like

Do ppl even use her still?

[hasty hearth]

fast clearing simulation i guess

other than that no

my brother did clear tower 75 using her tho so definitely usable

i just dont like her playstyle

[unkempt arrow]

I didn’t think so

She is definitely not strong enough for all the work u have to do

Like yes she’s useable

But figuratively literally everyone is

[hasty hearth]

well she aint no sereniel but then again no one is

[unkempt arrow]

And her in order b4 Nine she was already outclassed by all of Order

lol

Even Amir had better use case in bossing

[hasty hearth]

nah

i dont think amir really did much until narja came

[unkempt arrow]

Idk what that interaction is between them

[hasty hearth]

and even then it's still quite a bit of set up

u use full metal hurricanes

[unkempt arrow]

I haven’t watched or seen anything since I left

[hasty hearth]

narja uses card that decreases voracity and each time it gives u shield

which procs her to extra hit like 20 billion times

[unkempt arrow]

So like

Order Magna kinda

Except worse

[hasty hearth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1qfb1sa/amir_narja_37k_dmg_with_just_one_shield_card/

no

magna is terrible

by far the worst combatent in the game

[unkempt arrow]

Well nvm

Magna not doing that lol

Did they gut Mei Lin ?

[hasty hearth]

yes but indirectly and not really gut

they added hit count limit to lot of the bosses so anything past 7th hit on a card would hit for 1

[unkempt arrow]

That’s interesting

[hasty hearth]

so u still can do 1 shots with mei lin just requires more set up and specific set ups

well 1 shot isnt the right word more like 1 turn

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah it’ll take a bit more cycling but

She prolly still work almost the same

[hasty hearth]

yeah she does

[unkempt arrow]

What about Narja

Besides Amir

[hasty hearth]

shes good

[unkempt arrow]

Isn’t she for Seri?

[hasty hearth]

no

[unkempt arrow]

Dang

[hasty hearth]

shes support for defense scalers

[unkempt arrow]

Ahhh

[hasty hearth]

u can use her with seri

[unkempt arrow]

So Khal and Amir

[hasty hearth]

shes kind of like rei offensive healer

her unique thing is voracity/predation

[unkempt arrow]

Magna is kinda just cooked until countering becomes useful if it ever does

[hasty hearth]

which is a buff that buffs attack cards and when using attack cards u get healed a fixed amount

so technically if u have a lot of voracity she can heal crazy amounts

[unkempt arrow]

How practical is it

[hasty hearth]

its her entire gimmick

and it's pretty easy

shes pretty good ap battery too

[unkempt arrow]

Dang noted

[hasty hearth]

my current narja

basically shes got some epiphanies that will buff defense scaling damage

on bottomless and domain

but bottomless her main ap generation

[unkempt arrow]

Does this make Khal look any better

[hasty hearth]

it does but

i think khal only maybe would be useful in higher tower floors

[unkempt arrow]

Figured

[trail lava]

think this is worth using FoP?

[unkempt arrow]

Is the tower scratching the itch we had

When lacking content

I’m kinda excited if it’s good

[hasty hearth]

were u gonna change domain for defense scaling?

[trail lava]

yeah

[hasty hearth]

it's cool

it's their first attempt at trying to tackle against wombo combo spam card teams

u still technically can but it was a good attempt

[hasty hearth]

u definitely could if u wanted to

[unkempt arrow]

Wth does this mean

How would he do that

U can adjust cards now?

[hasty hearth]

its one of the epiphanies

[trail lava]

yeah i'll prob do it since im too lazy to refarm Narja's def buff deck lol

[hasty hearth]

yeah u see that gold card thing top

it's new thing

u can spend 1 to change epiphany on any save data

[unkempt arrow]

Dang

[trail lava]

yeah a lot of QoL this season

which is great

[unkempt arrow]

How many can u use per character?

1?

[trail lava]

pretty sure as much as you want as long as you have the FoP

[hasty hearth]

as many as u want

[trail lava]

i got 7

[hasty hearth]

but u shouldnt use them willy nilly

[unkempt arrow]

lol so you could theoretically just adjust ur seri to AP build if desperate

I’d rather farm it but

[hasty hearth]

no

[unkempt arrow]

That’s great qol

[hasty hearth]

u cant turn

non divine epiph into divine epiph

and if its divine epiph

u dont change the divine epiph

[unkempt arrow]

Ahh

Makes sense

[hasty hearth]

if it's divine epiph u can select any epiph WITH that divine option

[unkempt arrow]

So ap would have to be in that divinity group?

So skel or uh the 6arm woman

[hasty hearth]

yeah if u have the correct divine but wrong card epiph

it would keep the divine and u change the card epiph

[unkempt arrow]

Noted

[hasty hearth]

but u can only select options that are possible with that divine epiphj

so like some divine options arent available on all the card epiphs

[unkempt arrow]

AP is on 3 divine path if I’m not mistaken

Skel

6arms

And the guy wiggling fingers

Dunno who that is

[hasty hearth]

They added lot of nice qol

New zero system upgrades that make farming so much easier

[unkempt arrow]

You have any videos I could look at?

[unkempt arrow]

How so

[hasty hearth]

Like copy events are now targeted u can pick the combatant and it will only pick 3 of their cards

So pretty much copy is guaranteed

And u can reroll epiphanies throughout Chao’s run

Spend credits at campsites

[trail lava]

rerolling ephi can also get you divines as well

[unkempt arrow]

Dang I kinda wanna see it in action

It sounds too good

Literally went from barebones

To insane qol

[trail lava]

just finished my Mei and got this divine from rerolling her ephi

[unkempt arrow]

Beautiful

[plain breach]

are you farming on s2 plannet?

[trail lava]

Yeah easier to reroll and a high chance of copy event

Decent events and gear as well

[plain breach]

do you buy gear from the shop or choose from the event? After the update, I am saving gold to rr ephi and remove card so I end up choosing gold option from events 😄

[trail lava]

Buy bis from shop if it appears

Lots of events to help remove cards or get credits

Reroll ephi only when im min maxing divine or get bad ephis

[plain breach]

👍

[lyric osprey]

Well this was free

[stuck idol]

w

[lyric osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YsqbeXkT2I @hasty hearth

Surely Kayron like her

[worldly ingot]

Luke support (haven't watched)

Time to run Luke/Lucas/Tiphera

[lyric osprey]

She looks good, but I wanna see her epi

This might be the better Mika

[worldly ingot]

I'll get her anyway. She reminds me of the velvet attendant in the persona series

[hasty hearth]

love how they say number of hits before he becomes untargetable again

just to counter sereniel

[lyric osprey]

Or Mei

[hasty hearth]

is it unironically haru time

[lyric osprey]

Kayron time again

I also used him previous season for the ranking

pretty good

[hasty hearth]

master rank?

[lyric osprey]

No I couldn't be bothered I got diamond

I stopped farming the S1 because I couldn't be ass'd to farm decks

For unit I wasn't using to make P1 faster

[hasty hearth]

hmmm

what kayron build do u do

also for arms it says when one dies other takes action but what if u just kill at same time

[lyric osprey]

I'll prob do this, ( I have one made but it was only to clear tower and it was free anyway )

[lyric osprey]

Actually maybe I'll do this instead since I can spam AoE and try to kill both like you said

[hasty hearth]

khalipe might unironically be good

[lyric osprey]

Since after like a turn all these are 0 cost

anyway

and then I hope for dmg amp or always attack weakness or somethin

Or maybe AP ?

1 ap 500% aoe ? cost 0 ?

Okay cool

[hasty hearth]

trying to think of teams that would be good

guess depends on boss damage but maybe draw/khalipe/haru might be good here

[lyric osprey]

I'll wait to see what the boss do and I'll cook something

Haru time for sure

I'll do Kayron + Tiphera for sure

Haru is unironically better now too

[hasty hearth]

and i guess kind of depends if extra attacks count towards whatever hit count this guy follows

yeah didnt they double the stacking amount on her anchor shot?

[lyric osprey]

Yeah I think something like that

[worldly ingot]

I need to finish building Haru. Got her and partner to 60 but no potentials unlocked

Same with Khalipe

[gaunt sluice]

they really want one shot builds for boss

the hecc am i gonna build lol

[hasty hearth]

never lucky

if only i had gotten the purple armor that does increased damage against vuln

fuq

[unkempt arrow]

[lyric osprey]

I guess people doing spore lin now

[unkempt arrow]

Bruh yeah Nine is freaking cracked

Gonna try to make Haru/Orlea builds today

[gaunt sluice]

i don’t not if i want to try to pull for nine or e6 a future unit

[unkempt arrow]

She’s cracked but ion know if I’d consider her a must

You can kinda get by With the current order units

[boreal axle]

saving for next limited

[drifting flame]

Saving until eos

[unkempt arrow]

Real

I can finally play now that I’m home

[unkempt arrow]

Lowkey could slap AP on the legends but

It’ll do for now

[hasty hearth]

nah draw sir

[unkempt arrow]

[unkempt arrow]

I made another one

Gotta make a draw variation

[hasty hearth]

nice weapon

[unkempt arrow]

I literally couldn’t get anything else

I used it as a placeholder just to be sure I didn’t miss any good buffs in arena

[hasty hearth]

did u max out the zero system upgrades yet?

[unkempt arrow]

Almost

I’ve been grinding

This new acc I bought is stacked but they didn’t grind a lot

I’m gearing and maxing upgrades

[hallow trout]

draw 4? tf

I forgot that elite card existed ngl

[hasty hearth]

still less draw than the amount of packs ur ripping

[plain breach]

i'm trying to build her deck too but end up getting more nine's build lol

[hasty hearth]

who? mika?

[unkempt arrow]

Bruh

Where my divines

[gaunt sluice]

next weeks reset

[hasty hearth]

wait u know they buffed haru right

[unkempt arrow]

They did?

[unkempt arrow]

I wish

[hasty hearth]

yeah her anchor shot stacking thing went from 5 -> 10

so stacking the damage better than combo

[unkempt arrow]

Ahh if it’s 10 then yeah ur right

Dang

[plain breach]

Yeah mika, for s2

[unkempt arrow]

So if that the case

Vuln anchor

Is probably meta now

And gotta get the 1ap on the pointer

[hasty hearth]

i went for increased limit on anchor

theres one that's +120% per stack so max would be +1200%

[unkempt arrow]

I thought that divine was +30%

[unkempt arrow]

Almost

[winter ice]

Wouldn't the last copy end up being like +60 points though

[unkempt arrow]

This was T15 NM

If it was T16 u can squeeze that last dupe in there

[lyric osprey]

If the last copy didn't have the divine epi on it sure else you would be over cap

[hasty hearth]

They changed point rules sir

[unkempt arrow]

They changed everything dang

[hasty hearth]

Yes sir

[unkempt arrow]

So what’s the rule now

I made that based on old rules

[hasty hearth]

Card dupes is 0/0/40/40

Divine still same 20 points

Forgot removal but pretty much the same iirc

[lyric osprey]

There no way to get 4th copy anyway unless they give us one with the next part of S2

[hasty hearth]

Oh yeah and monster cards have different “rarity” which has different point value based on rarity

Basically anything 80 still fkin sucks

And anything 20 MAYBEE 40 u can cook

[lyric osprey]

Tbh the 50 we have from current event isn't bad either

This one

also I like this one

[hasty hearth]

Oh right and per anvil enhancement is 10 points @unkempt arrow

[unkempt arrow]

I did see that

Is the hammer at the end worth points?

[lyric osprey]

it's all 10

[hasty hearth]

If u can fit it in then yeah yolo

If it’s like between dupe or anvil then 100% dupe

[lyric osprey]

You maxing the support ? @hasty hearth

All her egos look great tbh. E1 and E2 mainly to me

[unkempt arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-warmup-ultra-instinct-goku-ultra-instinct-goku-ssj-gif-14730092257884162955

[hasty hearth]

prob not?

i actually didnt see egos let me check it out

yeah prob e2

e4 can be tempting

[unkempt arrow]

E2 max imo

[trail lava]

damn i forgot they nerfed this card

[thick relic]

@hasty hearth how do you like the new character?

[hasty hearth]

seems very solid

[lyric osprey]

Yep Yep

[thick relic]

Looks like it's making squeletor obsolete....

[drifting flame]

They refunded exact amount

[hollow ledge]

what the

i gotta check this

[drifting flame]

Did u recall?

[hollow ledge]

whar?

[drifting flame]

Recall alcea

[worthy raft]

Well 3 50:50 wins in a row xD wanted E1 and got E2 in multi although at near full pity

[hasty hearth]

same with me

[unkempt arrow]

I had to full pity

Twice

It’s getting annoying

Got chizuru as the off banner

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout am i making u proud

[hasty hearth]

okay not gonna lie

tiphera kind of fkin broken

[worthy raft]

Do you have a build already ?

[hasty hearth]

what i have currently

she does so much by herself cuz of archetype cards

[worthy raft]

is quantum seed upgrade that good?

otherwise I would more likely go for creation and destro upgrade epi

[hasty hearth]

idk what optimal would be but u def want a lot of archetype cards

only i guess "issue" i have with her is her partner requiring to do both shield gain and heal

which is only possible with her barrier deployment or creation and destruction

but not a huge deal since that portion is crit buff

[unkempt arrow]

Me rn

[hasty hearth]

mom get the camera

[plain breach]

first pity lost 50:50 ...

This build is fun

[hallow trout]

[plain breach]

I think Tiana is a must pull for Tiphera if you want to boost damage

[hasty hearth]

LOL one of my brother's deck skins

[plain breach]

Lol

[still sedge]

HELL YEAH MAGNA

[hasty hearth]

next unit justice im calling it

[trail lava]

We need another void dps

[hasty hearth]

holy got the nuts support gear

[trail lava]

not bad for my first run

[still sedge]

tried that earlier

mistakes were made

[unkempt arrow]

It’s easy if ur running Nine

Hard asf ur running anyone else

Got this when I beat that boss

Beating him gives you a cool background

[unkempt arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bs-memes-funny-kid-gif-5946141486447535931

[atomic river]

can spend 3-4 gold cards to change the epiphany

[hasty hearth]

i mean technically the teams u use her with u dont have to have a gazillion ap

[unkempt arrow]

It’s not bad ofc not

But it’s not ap

And I need it for rift

[unkempt arrow]

Khal bot with Nine

Needs more divine epis tho

Wanna get one with dmg up

[hasty hearth]

Nice

Still just a simulation speed runner for the most part tho

[unkempt arrow]

Khal is top 3 favorite unit

Gotta build her regardless

[unkempt arrow]

Dps Tiph time

[hasty hearth]

the 5 cost one is better for dps

[unkempt arrow]

It’s right there

[hasty hearth]

no sorry the one that decreases cost each time u exhaust a card

[unkempt arrow]

No way that one is better

Maybe if u can’t hit 6-9 ap consistently

[hasty hearth]

0 cost over 600%

that one is 4 cost for that same amount

[unkempt arrow]

We aiming for 6ap or higher shots

[hasty hearth]

that just sounds awful

[unkempt arrow]

Only if u don’t have the builds for it

It def works

[hasty hearth]

its more of why do that

[unkempt arrow]

Especially if she’s the only one actually using AP

[hasty hearth]

when u can do nine hew that has higher %

for 3 cost

[unkempt arrow]

That’s only if the Tiph attack is 4 ap or less

Anything over that

Tiph is hitting harder

[hasty hearth]

ssir

hew final form on extreme

is 1260%

????

[unkempt arrow]

Bruh

Tiph % is higher than that

Ofc I’m not discrediting Nine

[hasty hearth]

yeah but ur paying fkin 9 cost

lol

for 1512%

not to mention since ull be stacking ap

ur not gonna be buffing with tiph buff card

which will further boost nine

or legit anyone else

[unkempt arrow]

Have u seen her perform tho

[hasty hearth]

dont need to especially since it's rng as fk

[unkempt arrow]

Lmaooo

It’s much more controlled if u have the builds for it

[hasty hearth]

like im not gonna say it doesnt work

but its just not worth the payoff is what im saying

[unkempt arrow]

Nine is more consistent and less RNG builds

So I understand

But Tiph is a gamble unit

Why not gamble

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-warmup-ultra-instinct-goku-ultra-instinct-goku-ssj-gif-14730092257884162955

[hasty hearth]

i mean go for it but not for me

gambling just leads to high variance of frustration/annoyance and satisfaction

just gimme satisfaction

[unkempt arrow]

Fairs

I’m farming Rei next

Want that tree upgrade card but man

I doubt ima see it for awhile

[hasty hearth]

i do like tiphera design wise tho very unique support

[unkempt arrow]

Same imo she’s way too versatile lol

First true e6 value unit

[still sedge]

e6 is if you want her as dmg

otherwise her support cards are insane

[hasty hearth]

e6 is where u want her as support

not damage

i mean technically u could use it for damage as well but it's buffing her buff archetype card

[still sedge]

meh she gonna be fine at e0

so far havent had any trouble clearing bosses lvl 9 and chaos

unless i see real diffiiculty, ill use the 2 dupes i have from the 2 season on a character that would make it way bettee

until that ill just save the dupe stuff to the point i can e6 anyone that i want in the future

[plain breach]

Yeah, she is fine at e0. It's a different story if you want to push for leader board 😄

[hasty hearth]

true

[trail lava]

2nd phase is so ass, im happy with this

[hasty hearth]

yeah not fan of phase 2 either

[plain breach]

Yeah

[hasty hearth]

my brother at it again LOL

fkin deck skin

[gaunt sluice]

the hecc

[plain breach]

It will be funny with kyron too lol

[granite hull]

ER

Not even close

[unkempt arrow]

How do you even play that long on that game lol

[granite hull]

I was locked in at the start, rest was just hoping the devs would fix the issues with the game

[hasty hearth]

[plain breach]

[still sedge]

cant imagine playing that much on a phone

[hasty hearth]

L09 grinding irl and games at the same time

[granite hull]

Just found out there is like 900 more from my other gmail

I am shocked myself ngl

[still sedge]

holy

i only have 244h on my phone

all the games i played in a year

[granite hull]

If I take my anime watch time into the equation, i wonder if i am having more than 24h a day

This and watchtime from kissanime

[unkempt arrow]

Ur a freaking grinder my goodness

Uve literally done more on your phone in one week than I have in a month

[vernal flint]

Lmk when this game has co op

[gaunt sluice]

in which mode

like making decks or using prebuilt decks

or autofest

[vernal flint]

Like slay the spire 2

[gaunt sluice]

good luck on 2 hour runs

[vernal flint]

But with friends

[gaunt sluice]

and someone quots midway

quits*

[vernal flint]

[gaunt sluice]

imagine if

ap was split

gl on main character syndrome x3 teams

[vernal flint]

Thats already the reason I quit first time

Guess im never trying this game again

[plain breach]

[trail lava]

she wants me so bad

[hasty hearth]

told ya justice

[gaunt sluice]

so many justice

[hasty hearth]

everyone got 2 except for void and passion

passion didnt even get anyone new

[worthy raft]

Maybe passion next season xD

[jaunty orchid]

i dont know what you guys are talking about

but something in me rise in passion toward justice

[hasty hearth]

time for daily attempt at breaking galactic rift record

[plain breach]

This justice is not flat!

[vernal flint]

Tike to buy an account

[plain breach]

Megan deck pair with ambush nine

[hasty hearth]

yeah except magna sucks

respect tho for using her

[plain breach]

Hehe but the vulnerability after counter works well

[hasty hearth]

but orlea applies vuln while buffing

and nine can vuln herself if u just get sadism

[plain breach]

Auto attack after counter is nice

[plain breach]

Yes, I am just cooking something with Magna

[plain breach]

That team with manage to get to tower 75, not bad

[thick relic]

@hasty hearth can I see your hugo build and equipment 🙏🏽?

@plain breach!!!

[plain breach]

oh I don't have hugo

i'm still missing hugo and khalipe

[hasty hearth]

sure dont have a really great one for this season tho

[thick relic]

Wut about for the equipment?

[hasty hearth]

attack set, cdmg set, whatever

[plain breach]

Slay the spire 2 has co-op mode and heard it is very well done. We may see co-op mode in czn 🙂

I play this game without knowing slay the spire. Im going to give it a try

[manic knot]

I'm back if this game has coop like sts2 there's 0 chance of it happening though

[vernal flint]

I'm back when theres character interactions like the ones in brown dust 2

[gaunt sluice]

you don’t need a gacha game for that, just use that jp h game site at that point

but i don’t see how czn gonna work with multiplayer

[mighty thistle]

i love coop in sts2 if this game gets coop i'm totally back

[gaunt sluice]

how u gonna play with 3 sereniels?

who gets ap

how u gonna wait for someone with 14000 ping

[mighty thistle]

you haven't played sts2 coop yet?

[gaunt sluice]

no but in czn it’s not that simple

due to the nature of it being deck building when doing chaos runs

and runs not long enough to build multiple characters optimally unless u highroll

[mighty thistle]

what do you mean that's exactly how sts works?

[gaunt sluice]

so how do u manage 3 different sereniels

give them all 1 Ap each? 3 ap each?

dumpster the run with excessive resources or gamble with limited resources

[mighty thistle]

do you think in sts2 coop players all share ap?

smh

[gaunt sluice]

then again sere brings homing lasers anyways

that costs 0 so ur guaranteed 3ish

[shut talon]

Nop

[gaunt sluice]

so too much ap then

easy mode everyone has their own ap to do their combos

and ravage then everyone gets homing lasers back

[shut talon]

Unless no same chara

[mighty thistle]

how about you go have fun and try sts2 coop

then you can see how it works

[gaunt sluice]

i dont see how it can be balanced to czn

thats my thing

[mighty thistle]

cuz you are acting like silent doesn't have 60 card combos

[shut talon]

Just no same chara?

[mighty thistle]

you can do same characters in sts2 coop

[gaunt sluice]

how would u do monsters turn order as well and stuff like damage reduction buffs per hit or counter attack etc

[shut talon]

But czn didnt created that way

[mighty thistle]

they just scale the enemies by a crazy amount and everybody always gets hits there is no single target

[gaunt sluice]

yeah czn is built differently

9 ap (3 per chsracter) is a TON of ap)

[shut talon]

I mean, coop without using the same one are fun too

[gaunt sluice]

also how would u determine turn order etc

[shut talon]

Real time

[mighty thistle]

why wouldn't they be able to do it, i've played both it's the same, either have it be all instanced teams, or change it up so you only run 1 character

you need to talk to your team

[gaunt sluice]

how would u share ap and draws

[gaunt sluice]

most people would be doing matchmaking

with randoms from gameplay gacha perspective

[mighty thistle]

then people are just gonna spam attacks before others debuff and they will never do as well as teams that are talking to eachother

just like any other game

[gaunt sluice]

everyone bring sere solves the issue

[mighty thistle]

[gaunt sluice]

homing laser everything

[mighty thistle]

but just watch some sts2 coop gameplay and you can see how it would work

just scaling team runs for multiple teams to have fun running together or a new mode where people just take one character to play

[gaunt sluice]

~~what if randoms hold the turns hostage ~~

[mighty thistle]

lol gg

could add a timer for czn seeing how randoms could be shitty like that

only make the modes not have matching and you have to team up with friends

[gaunt sluice]

the game doesn’t encourage friends gameplay

even adding friends atm has basically no benefit

[mighty thistle]

i mean yeah this would be the mode that does that

[gaunt sluice]

then how u gonna friend when u solo

randoms?

[mighty thistle]

also another fun thing they added for sts2 coop is multiplayer colorless cards, stuff like team gets a draw or extra ap

[gaunt sluice]

how u gonna do that in czn when every card is tied to a character

[mighty thistle]

they are colorless cards

[gaunt sluice]

and then brought out after a run

[mighty thistle]

like normal cards in czn that characters can get

probably just wouldn't be able to save them

[gaunt sluice]

why do that when u can just delete ur deck though for better consistency

unless excess of resources from everyone drawing a ton of cards too

each with their own hand

[mighty thistle]

the modes aren't really for saving decks it would be doing hard choas runs with friends and can probably just give other rewards for just completing runs

[gaunt sluice]

i guess? but still excess or too little resources is the issue

4 starter card deck up to 8 with epiphany

and how much each person draws

how much ap each person gets

[mighty thistle]

it's the same as single player

[gaunt sluice]

its too unbalanced

[mighty thistle]

really you should just try sts2 and see how it is

to get a better idea

[gaunt sluice]

i mean so u can basically delete 2 players deck

[mighty thistle]

gonna be too hard to explain i think if you've only ever played czn

[gaunt sluice]

and solo carry

i played other roguelike card runs with multiple characters but i don’t see how it can translate to czn properly

what was that obelisk thing was one of them

and some modded roguelike cards to add multiplayer too

[mighty thistle]

everybody has their own cards, everybody has their own ap, everybody has the same draw, everybody has the same stuff as normal play, enemies are just crazy strong and will hit all teams and not just go for one character on one team, if a player dies but they finish the fight they revive at 1hp, etc

[gaunt sluice]

the main problem i see is if each player draws their deck and have too many cards

[mighty thistle]

if that happens when you play by yourself than sure

[gaunt sluice]

because of how small each character decks are

are u gonna let every player draw 3/4 of their deck?

[mighty thistle]

like i said i expect for czn each player has their own 3 characters like normal

[gaunt sluice]

do ur saying like

3 sets of 3?

[mighty thistle]

like it's a normal choas run just with people running along side you

[gaunt sluice]

instead of one character each?

[mighty thistle]

yeah like in sts2 it's just like playing solo but there are people with you

[gaunt sluice]

that would make more sense imo

[mighty thistle]

just everying is scaled way higher

and you can combo off eachothers debuffs and stuff

[gaunt sluice]

i just thought u meant sharing a team of 3 with one character each

[mighty thistle]

no like i said that would have to be it's own seperate thing if czn wants to do that

but i'd expect it to just be your same team with 2 to 3 other people bringing their teams and playing a suped up chaos run

[gaunt sluice]

that would soundviable if each player brings their own team

[mighty thistle]

could make it uniquer by having colorless cards that do multiplayer stuff if the decks aren't gonna save and it's just for fun runs

[gaunt sluice]

~~watch runs gets wiped because enemy action timers ~~

[mighty thistle]

idk how they they would do just 1 character per player unless they created a new mode and deck system for it

[mighty thistle]

you should see the crazy stuff that happens in sts2 runs

everybody attacks an elite and watch as their next attack goes up by 3 each hit

[gaunt sluice]

ive seen stuff like that already

[mighty thistle]

and be that one guy like wait guys i don't have enough defense cards stop pls lol

[gaunt sluice]

like every [x] stacks enemy effects

and teammates do it anyways

[mighty thistle]

yep it's pretty fun

[gaunt sluice]

i find that frustrating

[mighty thistle]

gotta play with a team in voice chat lol

[gaunt sluice]

i did

that’s the problem

[mighty thistle]

[gaunt sluice]

especially when most runs are non support characters trying to fight to be the main carry

still thinks the 3 teams or so gonna be unbalanced cause more instances of sereniel selena combo the more stupid it gets

[austere wing]

In Sts 1 & 2, the enemies don't take actions until the player finishes taking actions

[plain breach]

Im sure czn team can come up with something

If they want to do

They don’t need to go crazy, just do a coop boss first. Let players build the decks before battle begins like building in chaos. Random copy and random epi 🙂

[manic knot]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[trail lava]

https://youtu.be/NJl-u0aX5VU?si=k6eIwJ2jZ0YLhI6E

[hallow trout]

@hasty hearth you enjoying the gbf cope?

[gaunt sluice]

oh did u steam gbf?

[hasty hearth]

i am indeed

[hasty hearth]

no starter account

[unkempt arrow]

U play Gbf now?? @hasty hearth

[hasty hearth]

yes sir

[unkempt arrow]

What a W lmao

I was thinking of running it back to the mobile game since me and friends have been playing the ER Beta

[hasty hearth]

ER beta?

oh

so u played long time ago

but stopped?

[unkempt arrow]

Yessir

With Jan and the gang

Jan still plays hella tho I believe

[unkempt arrow]

Eternal Ragnarok for Grandblue Fantasy Relink

They pumping out more content for Relink and making it cross platform coop with more chars maps bosses and some other stuff

[jaunty orchid]

Wew

Finally tried the game

Its fun

But barely anything to reroll with

Prob will wait for an anniversary or until im willing to buy a starter

[hasty hearth]

czn?

yeah at this point prob better to buy an account

[jaunty orchid]

ofc czn

lol

[gaunt sluice]

still mainly using sereniel

lol

[hasty hearth]

ye sereniel do be the nuts

[gaunt sluice]

i really do like her aesthetics and kit tbh lol

[neat belfry]

yeah havent pulled a banner since sereniel and her and mei lin clearing everything easy

[plain breach]

nine is pretty fun too

[hasty hearth]

what a weird unit

rita is like her own battery kinda which is her gimmick

also confirmed she was the leaked chrono character but they changed her aesthetic

honestly liked her leak style more than current one

oh wait maybe could still be seperate

[trail lava]

https://fixupx.com/tannnkaasan/status/2031664919675129993

カルおぢ (@tannnkaasan)

リタも箱内転生者だったもよう…
︀︀さよならミリア…🥲
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FixupX · Mar 11, 2026, 9:33 AM

[unkempt arrow]

Her leak style is literally

10x better

Why would they switch it

[plain breach]

Maybe they plan to make different element like e7?

[hasty hearth]

idk seems unlikely they have a lot of new units that are still leaked

could be possible tho

[gaunt sluice]

i liked leaked version more

[plain breach]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-esperando-mr-bean-waiting-gif-4513135960021631723

[thick relic]

@plain breach it us up now!

[plain breach]

okie!

[plain breach]

how's Rita?

[plain breach]

blah.. lost pity to haru -_-

[trail lava]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-zero-nightmare-haru-czn-cake-eating-gif-5045998388689443963

[trail lava]

this is neat

[woven ridge]

Got lucky Rita and partner first x10 pull

[hasty hearth]

Idk just got copy and stopped

Too busy grinding gbf

I’ll farm a deck and stuff over the weekend

[worthy raft]

what? just 1? wtf is happening here

[hasty hearth]

She doesn’t interest me really

[unkempt arrow]

She’s pretty good

Not a must have tho I’d say

But great with our current heavy hitters rn

[thick relic]

Saving for seasonable

[trail lava]

can't wait for the next seasonal unit to be a dude to screw me over

[unkempt arrow]

@hasty hearth show your GBF progress

[hasty hearth]

[hasty hearth]

wot progress

busy farming my first magna grid

slaving away at leviathan mines

@wise yew says if i dont hit my KPIs i wont get paid

[unkempt arrow]

What ele did u settle on

And did u buy a starter or something

[manic knot]

[hasty hearth]

yes

[hasty hearth]

uh waiting till anni ends to see what i get

but my current strongest primal would be dark then water

so those are my primal options as of right now

[unkempt arrow]

Interesting

On my acc b4 I quit was primal fire almost primal dark

I dunno how weak I am now since it’s been awhile

[shut talon]

im grinding origin fighter class

[hasty hearth]

what year did u quit

[unkempt arrow]

On my new acc I quit last year for a year

On my older one it’s been like uh

4 or 5

[hasty hearth]

what the multiple accounts?

[unkempt arrow]

Yessir

Jan has more than one too

Idk if he plays the other one anymore

I play on the newer one now

[hasty hearth]

oh so u still play?

gimme ID ill add

[shut talon]

add me 11161348

[hasty hearth]

[hasty hearth]

sent sir

[wise yew]

Wtf slack

[shut talon]

i just said that

i slacc this game

[wise yew]

Bro i failed hexa

[shut talon]

im making my 4th exo cocy ulb gun

[wise yew]

Run it back tonight

[wise yew]

Just farm m3 man

[shut talon]

i got 2 octavia gun and ilsa formal

gonna take Hraes man

[wise yew]

I also have that

U have primal water?

[hasty hearth]

cant even get to lvl 180 exo

[wise yew]

Breh

Even with bhaisa?

Who u using

Oh ur not even m3 dirt

No 6d gun either

Makes sense

[hasty hearth]

bhaisa, gold knight, lyria, uriel, sapollonia

[wise yew]

Ok uh

Ur not caing after turn 2-3?

[hasty hearth]

well i did try diff team

i tried cidala, sapollonia, uriel

[wise yew]

U aint bursting 180 with non m3

[hasty hearth]

i aint trying to burst sir

not to mention yeah my earth grid aint exactly great

[wise yew]

If u tryna out tank

U have arulu?

[hasty hearth]

who

[wise yew]

Arulumaya

Throw uriel in the back

[hasty hearth]

dont have her

[wise yew]

I know 0 shits about dir

Time to go to nyx

[hasty hearth]

can i still use gun without last uncap

[wise yew]

Er

Yes

Last uncap is new

Came from this event

[hasty hearth]

oh

then im fine

[wise yew]

I think most setups in gw will be using this uncap tho

U have galexiel?

Satyr?

[hasty hearth]

yeah i have galexiel

[wise yew]

Probably those 2 and bhaisa can clear?

Ur okto should not exist at this time so