CZN gooner gang godz only

[celest lance]

[lavish lark]

wtf .. its the first time i've seen 4 unidentified in a row

[lavish lark]

that's some bullshit

[drifting flame]

Reroll time

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout oh did u log in?

[drifting flame]

Login mine

[hasty hearth]

no u

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

[hallow trout]

ye just checking stuff

[hasty hearth]

ah okay was in middle of galactic rift finished tho so ur good

[hallow trout]

dragon traveler bait next?

[lyric osprey]

Surely

[hasty hearth]

next bd2 for u

[lyric osprey]

Apprently it's an idle game with guild wars, rta, and more.. I wonder where the idle part

[hallow trout]

depends if I read it right lol. 1 usd = 70 vouchers

if its like draconia saga where $1 = 1 voucher that's crazy

ill let someone else test before I rebate or even touch it

[lavish lark]

probably the progresion will be idle part

timegates

[lyric osprey]

Oh you right, I heard its auto push in the background

[hasty hearth]

dibs on end's pilot

[lyric osprey]

Wow you gain a whole 4 vouchers.

[lyric osprey]

NUHU

Btw on the website it's 66 voucher for 1$

[hallow trout]

oh ok that makes much more sense

still not bad rebate values

[hallow trout]

[hallow trout]

you wanna swipe with me? 1k rebate = ~3k for launch

[hasty hearth]

i dont even know anything about the game

[lyric osprey]

it's basically eversoul meet afk journey with more goon apprently

[hasty hearth]

dont know what eversoul is

[lyric osprey]

I don't know either

I'm just saying what been said here #1456585574545625195

Or in the hub

[hallow trout]

just next goon bait wym

we 1k each and get 5k value easy

[simple sage]

@hallow trout don’t that games some hot ass

[hasty hearth]

[simple sage]

Kings raid remake is soon probably too

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout just saw gameplay big skip for me

also for kings raid so it's literally a rerelease of the game before a patch that ruined the game?? LOL

[simple sage]

Ya

I guess the balanced the UT

And other things too

[lyric osprey]

Infinit money glitch because people seems to still be hyeped for it

[hallow trout]

ok hold til Kings Raid

[gaunt sluice]

i heard

dragon traveler

worth?

any kemonos?

[lavish lark]

If you like Idles.. might as well try it

[gaunt sluice]

i mean i can try idle

if its an idle game i dont really have to play

[lavish lark]

even if it's Idle.. the first week u will have to play.. it's how it goes

after that u can kickback and relax

[astral gazelle]

14 ish hours before reset

rmb to clear new weeklies from mon

[hollow ledge]

maxed out rei desu

[shut talon]

Hmm agony, interesting

[trail lava]

Tressa who?

[astral gazelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLZzC4C9uA

[hollow ledge]

she likes to eat

[astral gazelle]

defense for more dmg

partner gives more defense

if you use a 6 cost original cost, 20-40% dmg boost to all allies

dev reccomendations

[hasty hearth]

this character is weird

[vernal flint]

Thats the dude that did silver and blood content and stopped doing it for czn smh

[hasty hearth]

do we know if her unique buffs are multiplicitive or additive?

if voracity and predation are additive this character is actually pretty bad imo

[trail lava]

Voracity is def additive since you can stack it 30 times

no way they'll make that multiplicative lol

[hasty hearth]

narja is like

a support with no real identity

she's like all over the place

used for defense based damage teams, can reduce 2 cards by 1, can buff basic attack cards, gives like 2 morale perma with her buffs (unless predation is multiplicitive), randomly adds increased tenacity damage taken, and like supposed to do damage herself?

like she is so weird

i dont quite understand what her optimal team is supposed to be

literally only thing i can see right now is since my guess is nine is vanguard passion she prob going to be a defense based dps and narja would work well with her

only combination i can personally see right now is mei lin and to a lesser extent chizuru

[gaunt sluice]

i see ap gen sere with her with draw card and selena tenacity refresh with coop attacks

she feels like an onhit buffer healer

[hallow trout]

when she drop?

[hasty hearth]

tomorrow

[drifting flame]

She good?

[mellow bolt]

is there new content coming?

[lavish lark]

if they stick to the roadmap ... probably not

for a couple weeks at least

[hasty hearth]

tower tomorrow

[hasty hearth]

first glance imo no but if nine is some op defense scaling dps then maybe

[drifting flame]

Time to build Cassius

[lavish lark]

my Cassius is E1 .. I refuse to use him until he is E2

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

honestly at first glance narja looks like first actual hard skip unit

only way i can think she is broken is if predation is multiplicitive

or if ur a mei lin enjoyer

[lavish lark]

yeah like Haru wasn't one

[hasty hearth]

haru actually has potential use tho

like if they ever make mechanic something like minimum hit needs to be like 500% or something

then haru is one of the very few who can actually damage

or if they limit cards played

theres many cases where haru can actually be relevent

but narja....

feels like jack of all trades master of none

[lavish lark]

Im so glad I skipped Haru

[hasty hearth]

like idk any case where it's like "yeah i want to use narja"

best case i can think of even right now is with mei lin

and even then she is like just a slightly better rei in that case

okay better than slightly better but essentially just a better rei with units like mei lin/chizuru

[lavish lark]

she can have up to 4 uniques on her deck.. that's a decent reason to use her

[hasty hearth]

3 uniques

but yeah that is good

[lavish lark]

you are not counting her epic card

[hasty hearth]

oh ur right

so yeah her best use is farming for other people's decks

[meager junco]

im gonna skip her

[hasty hearth]

i can already see the future

[meager junco]

ill just save standard pulls

[hasty hearth]

people know she isnt that great right now

nine gonna be vanguard passion defense dps

[meager junco]

will most likely get her via standard pool

[hasty hearth]

with great synergy with her

selling the remote first to the batteries that comes out after

[meager junco]

i must say tho

her heal on attack cards is very nice

should be the strongest healer i bet

[hallow trout]

so pull to p6 c5 got it

[hasty hearth]

plz no

ur gems were gonna last me a year

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

btw fully rainbowed sereniel cards

[hollow ledge]

fight standard enemy
0 hp
the game freezes
i have to restart
come back to see senectus

[hollow ledge]

hmmm

(not final)

[hasty hearth]

especially since got to refarm when next season begins

[hollow ledge]

I guess I just have a knack for getting good luck at the worst times possible

[trail lava]

still good to have ideal decks for content outside the seasonal events

like the new tower and Basin

[hollow ledge]

regarding veronica's ballista generator, do i prioritize aoe ballistas over a divine epiphany that makes the card 0 cost?

(in my current case it's shelling ballista)

[trail lava]

i like the aoe but i think the shelling got a higher dmg ceiling if buffed

i still prefer the aoe tho

[hollow ledge]

hm

i picked the 0 cost since i just bring vero along for dupe thinning

[trail lava]

yeah then just pick what you prefer

aoe helps clear mobs faster too in chaos for me

[hollow ledge]

well

i hope sweet dreams gives me a homing laser or a shining core dupe

cause i didn't get ore vein

[vernal flint]

Did they show her affection home page

[hollow ledge]

still safer to use in public than sereniel's

[lavish lark]

debatable

[hollow ledge]

hell yeah

[vernal flint]

Ok pulling

[hollow ledge]

final product

[vernal flint]

We get skip this update?

[lavish lark]

we do for story.. not sure if that applies to Chaos

hopefully

[trail lava]

the fast forward feature is also ass

its faster to click the text than holding the fast forward

[vernal flint]

Well at least I can advance story

Story has auto right? I forgot

[hallow trout]

oh wait its time to pull @hasty hearth?

[hasty hearth]

wot

not until tomorrow

and even then would just do e2 max

narja so far only good for helping farm other people's decks

[lavish lark]

End starting to give addicted vibes

[lyric osprey]

Wdym " starting to give "

I thought he was

[hasty hearth]

narja imo 2nd worst unit to release

yuki being the worst

[hollow ledge]

I got scammed in that gamemode. Because of the upgrade card rule, even if I had different epiphanies I still lost one of the Shining Cores xd

[hasty hearth]

but u can argue narja could be worst cuz this is first ssr controller

[lyric osprey]

I didn't look at the video but your TLDR gave me a skip vibe

[hollow ledge]

The rearguard battle

[hasty hearth]

u can look at the cards ink posted for her epiphanies

shes just trying to be everything but not good at anything

[hollow ledge]

@lavish lark You know how in the rearguard battle, if you have duped upgrade cards it would eliminate the dupes and apply unique to the original. Clearly meant to scale down on shit like Shadow Reload IV

By technicality, the rule detected that I had two Shining Cores. Even if they're different epiphanies, they're still both upgrades.

So what does the game say? "This guy has duped upgrades"

[lavish lark]

yeah.. I noticed that.. when they wont let me use my best cards in each deck xD

but it's just a hidden rule isn't it?

[hollow ledge]

Guess which upgrade card remained? Not the "better" one

[hollow ledge]

It's not hidden, it says so in the lobby

[lavish lark]

show , im not ig

[hollow ledge]

hang on i just started a raid

[hasty hearth]

it says that in the effect

[lavish lark]

no hurry

[hasty hearth]

"all but 1 copy of upgrade cards with the SAME NAME will be removed"

[lyric osprey]

Surely if you focus each ephi she's great at something

/copium

I'll check the pics

[hasty hearth]

she is at farming other people's decks

3/4 of her cards can epiphany into unique tag

and her exclusive purple card is unique

[lyric osprey]

LMAO

[hollow ledge]

I understand the intent behind the rule, but the technicality is what's annoying when you're trying to use different epiphanies

[hasty hearth]

so if u remove her non unique card then none of her cards will show up in copy event

[lyric osprey]

That pretty sexy ngl

But not worth pulling

[lavish lark]

I'm kinda tempted to pull for her just because support with up to 4 uniques

[lyric osprey]

I'll wait and see

[hasty hearth]

i mean

i guess they made her a new type of support

u dont bring her outside chaos

u use her to farm ur perfect decks

i mean aside from mei lin and maybe chizuru i cant really think of using her in any situation currently

maybe she will be busted with nine

beside that only if the game forces u to like idk u take 1k damage a turn and u need her to remain alive or some shit

[lavish lark]

that.. with the fact that she doesn't share the spot with Sereniel.. says a lot

[lavish lark]

why does the unique part matter

kinda weird.. cause Shining is not an upgrade card

only 1 of the variants is

and even then.. it says 1 copy

[hollow ledge]

Shining has two upgrade epiphanies

And I happen to have both of them in my deck

[lavish lark]

but I don't ... and they still take it away

[hollow ledge]

It says 1 copy as in one instance of the card

[hollow ledge]

Show me your deck, because I used a deck with the create upon ravage upgrade and create 3 lasers skill and the upgrade doesn't go away

[lavish lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1419761039159070720/1459224701028274330/image.png?ex=6967c667&is=696674e7&hm=0d89afced567fb6d220a62e2f7d77063e6e9ad560bdd7d821c8e058a6f47946b& the deck for context

[hollow ledge]

oh you were quick

[lavish lark]

I was already looking for it

[hollow ledge]

OH that's the same issue really

It's exactly what I'm dealing with

It's what I realized what it's really doing

[lavish lark]

its kinda bs.. ngl

[hollow ledge]

It's bullshit when you understand the intent behind it and then what it actually does

[lavish lark]

cause homing laser also has an upgrade variant

oh wait nvm

was thinkig of plasma

[hollow ledge]

They wanted to nerf strats like multiple Shadow Reload IV spam and in the process they also borked any other strats involving duped upgrade cards even if they have different epiphanies

[lavish lark]

maybe if the skill one was the replicated.. they would let me keep it

[hollow ledge]

If one of your shining cores was a skill card, both would be kept because only one shining is an upgrade

[hasty hearth]

i mean yeah its not rocket science

upgrade tag + same name = deletion

sg def couldve handled it better by like as bibbu said to delete all upgrade cards with same epiphany

instead of upgrade card with same name

[hollow ledge]

yeah

if they did it by duped epiphany it would've been far more fair

[lavish lark]

well surely a lot of people complained.. and they will word it different

[hasty hearth]

i mean lets be real

[hollow ledge]

an alternative would've been to showcase a list of troublesome epiphanies they wouldn't allow

[hasty hearth]

next galactic rift

will just be catered to who the new unit is when it comes out

so like nine + whoever after her

[hollow ledge]

that's the business strat

cater new content to new characters so a given part of the playerbase will pull / spend to pull for the newest thing

[hasty hearth]

gacha 101

sell the solution to the problem they created

[hollow ledge]

including but not limited to gacha

[lavish lark]

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11778007 patch notes up btw

[gaunt sluice]

i wonder if

the vorality heals

[hasty hearth]

so 50 floor tower

[gaunt sluice]

counts as actual heals

so tressa on heal generate shadow dagger

can keep proccing

[hasty hearth]

u can only do 5 floors a week da fuq?

[hasty hearth]

dobut it since shadow dagger specifically says heal from skill

[lavish lark]

it will probably be like whirlpool

[hasty hearth]

aka skill card

[hollow ledge]

element is irrelevant in team comps, nice

[lavish lark]

5 attempts per week

[hasty hearth]

wow thanks sg

[lavish lark]

so we need 10 weeks to clear it ?

[hasty hearth]

last floor

we get

1 prism lens

C R A Z Y

[hollow ledge]

assuming you never lose, yes

[lavish lark]

I'm assuming failing doesn't consume the attempt

[hasty hearth]

yeah it says attempt is consumed upon each clear

so failing doesnt consume

[gaunt sluice]

finally a reward thats the same as logging in

[hollow ledge]

oh wow 3 pulls and a bit across 10 weeks

[hasty hearth]

2x rewards from simulation runs

[gaunt sluice]

rewards kinda low

does it refresh?

[hollow ledge]

"beta" btw

[hasty hearth]

i mean

[hollow ledge]

* The Spiral Tower of Screams will be added as permanent content. Upon the official release, all existing clear records and reward acquisition data will be reset.

There will be a refresh when they make it "1.0"

[hasty hearth]

oh so ur telling me

[hollow ledge]

Idk AFTER

[lavish lark]

we playing beta ?

[hasty hearth]

we can get 2 skin card pulls

and 6 pulls

C R A Z Y

[hollow ledge]

They specifically say it's a beta version

[hasty hearth]

i think they said it was supposed to be like

150 floors or 250

i forgot which

[hollow ledge]

So we don't know if they're gonna make it permament BEFORE we reach beta floor 50

or AFTER

[hasty hearth]

i mean

[lavish lark]

Codex merging 50% cheaper

[hasty hearth]

not like missed rewards from it are anything crazy

[hollow ledge]

for two weeks post-maintenance

she comes with a trauma code thingy

[lavish lark]

bait for pulling

even tho all tryhards will get 1 copy of her

[hollow ledge]

we haven't got one since haru lol

[lavish lark]

just cause 4 unique cards

Narja + Vero + the one u want the deck for

[hasty hearth]

oh thank god for the simulation QoL

PRAISE THE LORD

[lyric osprey]

This gotta be my fav part of the update

[hasty hearth]

that's exactly what i was looking at as well

best part of the update

[hollow ledge]

wait hold up they're giving luke a trauma code too?

[lavish lark]

no sweep 💢

[hollow ledge]

lol wut

should've been release feature

[lyric osprey]

Nice try this unit still ass

[hasty hearth]

i see what u did there

[hollow ledge]

the one amir main will enjoy this

[lavish lark]

less clicking.. definitely an improvement

[hollow ledge]

new phone stories for narja, magna and mei lin

basically some 30-ish crystals?

- The maximum holding limit for the item [Special Security Code] will be capped at 3. Any excess quantity held prior to the update will be retained.

[lavish lark]

and that is ?

[hollow ledge]

The keys you use to unlock trauma codes

[lavish lark]

I think I have 2 of those

[hollow ledge]

i.e. haru's and renoa's now, and in the future narja's and luke's (?)

if you happen to have a large stockpile of those, you keep the excess now

they might actually get on to add trauma codes more often by implementing a cap

[gaunt sluice]

i honestly

didnt buy more codes

i forget they actually have a use

[hasty hearth]

end didnt either bought 1 for this week

[lavish lark]

its so cheap it's not even worth mentioning

just timegated for a few days

[hallow trout]

no more galactic rifts, it sucks

[hasty hearth]

are u logging in tomorrow to pull

[hallow trout]

probably tho idk when

depends when I wake up and feel like doing stuff

riftbound sold out to fast for me to grab today

guess I just whale on scalpers prices

[hasty hearth]

k u can do the pulls then

plz dont max her tho

[hallow trout]

[lavish lark]

E6 C5 inc

[hasty hearth]

probably lol

[hallow trout]

[still sedge]

narja skip angle

until i see a limited unit i aint pulling

[lavish lark]

4 Unique deck angle

[still sedge]

i hate the fact ill have to grind my deck again

[lavish lark]

then dont... its not like the rewards for outperforming most people are good

[drifting flame]

Banner when

[still sedge]

true

[astral gazelle]

Apparently manefest ego button is buggef

I cant e4 veronica rn

[still sedge]

oh no

dupes activation bugged, that means more gems in mail

[astral gazelle]

ok its bugged on phone

pc client i can

[astral gazelle]

20 pulls after the pity

should i get gaya

[astral gazelle]

also the one times simu to clear multiple times is avail

kinda nice

[astral gazelle]

narja can make pseudo 0 card decks pretty easily

gives you healing thru the cycle also

[trail lava]

how is she?

[astral gazelle]

shes fun

idk about dmgwise tho

since the only thing i can test on rn is tower

but tower has a dmg boost to def dmg

but on story, dmg looks on

ok

im running her with ravage dmg boost atm

since i have sereniel setup

and she does decent dmg with mealtime and ult

chaos felt comfortable with her and sereniel

never got below 3/4 hp at tier 15

[trail lava]

nice, i'll wait for more testing before pulling

[astral gazelle]

she feels like better rei atm

for chaos

4 uniques after all

[trail lava]

yeah i expect her to be a 5 star Rei

[astral gazelle]

also, the x3 effect in chaos

looks so funny

cause all the animations are x3ed

even npcs

and reroll dices

[astral gazelle]

theres multiple options for counseling now

[hasty hearth]

got to wait for end before i can farm for narja

[astral gazelle]

meh wait for season 2

[hasty hearth]

guess ill just do the tower floors

[astral gazelle]

its gated btws

so max is 25 today

[worthy raft]

Isn’t it weekly capped ? Didnt play myself yet so dont know for sure , but I think I saw that somewhere

[astral gazelle]

yes

[hasty hearth]

yes 5 entries with each entry letting u clear a set of 5 floors

[astral gazelle]

its 5 clears

for 5 floors

even if you lose you dont lose clears

so can rr for start

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout i see hes up and ready to pull

[worthy raft]

Oh that’s nice than

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

stream pulls

[astral gazelle]

e6 narja right

[hasty hearth]

plz no

[astral gazelle]

give miracle ptsd

[hasty hearth]

[astral gazelle]

lmk when stream

im lurking somewhere else watching hytale gameplay

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout where the discord stream at

[hallow trout]

done already

[hasty hearth]

wtf

[astral gazelle]

LMAO

[hasty hearth]

that was fast

[hallow trout]

im going back to sleep

[astral gazelle]

gn

have a good rest lol

[hasty hearth]

wait

he legit woke up to do pulls

[astral gazelle]

wtf is this camera

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

oh

thankfully end only pulled 1 copy

papa bless

[astral gazelle]

the partner?

[hasty hearth]

pulled 1 copy of each yeah

wtf

[astral gazelle]

ok narja is kinda insane

just got my entire hand to 0 cost

[hasty hearth]

oh okay there we go

[astral gazelle]

off voracity procs

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout wtf i thought u said u were going back to sleep LOL

[hallow trout]

I can't

the e6 desire to strong

[astral gazelle]

LMAO ACTUALLY E6?

[hasty hearth]

STOP NO

DONT DO IT

PLZ

btw i bought the BP @hallow trout

end trying to speedrun me out of gems

[astral gazelle]

its his gems

[hasty hearth]

true

but i was gonna make those gems last for like a year

i can already picture end

lying in bed

unable to sleep because a character on his account wasnt maxed out

the absolute horror for him

[astral gazelle]

also, i think the devs removed the estimated enemy dmg for basin?

not 100% sure on that one

[hasty hearth]

what really? Like when u hover card the damage it will do to them?

[astral gazelle]

no, the enemy dmg to you

[hasty hearth]

Oh

[astral gazelle]

imagine if they remove the dmg calc tho

that would be fked

[lavish lark]

lab zero is now core? interesting

damn.. my patience saved me a few runs

[hallow trout]

[lavish lark]

i was on difficulty 8 pre-patch

[hallow trout]

this gonna be me in kings raid

the beta where we can't swipe

[hasty hearth]

lets see the damage done

@hallow trout did u finish pulling

[hallow trout]

nope

[hasty hearth]

let me

finish this boss

thing

@hallow trout okay u can go ahead

[astral gazelle]

ok weird

[lavish lark]

loving this combat efficiency thing

[astral gazelle]

it removed the dmg calc for some fights

but others its still there

[hallow trout]

im done

[hasty hearth]

wait what

[hallow trout]

dw I didn't full send

[hasty hearth]

[hallow trout]

I was looking at what the dupes do

I didn't full send yet

[hasty hearth]

i see them both at just 1 copy

[hallow trout]

maybe one day you wake up to her randomly maxed

[hasty hearth]

yeah am i gonna go in 1 day

notice the gem/pull count be lower

and see them maxed out

[hallow trout]

no comment but if KR drops soon risk if that lower

rn im just enjoying my tcg gacha

[hasty hearth]

say what now

[astral gazelle]

if kings raid drops

[hasty hearth]

oh kings raid

[astral gazelle]

hes gonna giga whale there

[hasty hearth]

i mean its end he can never f2p

[hallow trout]

ill be forced to in beta

like czn beta

[hasty hearth]

how will the man survive

[hallow trout]

op and riftbound tcg

[hasty hearth]

even playing field with everyone else? The absolute horror

[hallow trout]

I need my handicap perks, im not young anymore

[hasty hearth]

age is definitely not the reason

[lavish lark]

which one is that

oh riftbound.. my bad

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

the combat efficiency feels so fkin good

god bless

[astral gazelle]

you can skip unigram events now

still cant skip yappage

[mellow bolt]

so how is the new character and tower?

gamechanging?

[hasty hearth]

tower is easy so far

character i mean

worst case good for farming other people's decks

[mellow bolt]

lol

ya ok i m gonna come back when they add something interesting to chaos

waiting for that giant chaos to release

[hasty hearth]

the biggest thing tho

is the multi run in simulation

can do up to 5 now and it's just 1 battle for all the rewards

god bless

[mellow bolt]

oh that's good

i m uninstalling as we speak lol

[hasty hearth]

[mellow bolt]

i miss the feeling chaos gave me in the first couple of weeks

they gotta add more chaos shit not these other random stuff

[astral gazelle]

aite done with this week

they really said dont allow card creation

meilin machinegun

so if you wanna softlock yourself(without exiting game)

go to items, look for the exchange currency from last season

and click go to galactic

free blackscreen

idk why i tried to do that

[hollow ledge]

i lost the 50/50 to haru of all combatants

she intervened to defend the title of fatass from narja

[boreal axle]

i agree this best qol they added

[astral gazelle]

I lost mine to veron

Ill take her any day

E4 now

[hollow ledge]

I should've lost to a combatant I don't yet have

Magna, Khalipe, Hugo

[hollow ledge]

they added such a stupid laugh here

[trail lava]

real

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout wtf so i was going for narja e2

lost 50-50 twice both times got orlea

[lavish lark]

gems for a year huh?

[hasty hearth]

oh please

didnt even use all the pulls he had

gems are still untouched

[hallow trout]

welcome to my life

[hasty hearth]

well 2 more cubes i guess

just gotta wait for them to expand cube shop

ezpz

[lavish lark]

is there any 1card build we would want for Narja ? (Before i invest into her potential)

damn her ego manifests are dogshit

[keen falcon]

Going anything but dmg buff support Narja for the actual vanguards is just throwing

[hasty hearth]

what actual vanguards

cuz vanguards are totally giga pumpers

that's why im thinking nine might be first real def scaling dpser but just speculating

[keen falcon]

When I say that I mean ppl treating narja as if she’s a vanguard

She ain’t supposed to be dealing def dmg like some folks are building her for

That’s going completely against the flow which is her cracked ass dmg buffs my support and healing. Like you said, a better rei

[hasty hearth]

they see big number and they get excited

she def has future potential for that

but right now yeah that is throwing

[keen falcon]

She’s supposed to support the vanguards at least for now until we get that corruption stuff

[hasty hearth]

cuz current defense scaling damage are weak as fuq

[keen falcon]

Yes

[hasty hearth]

well thats why i said SG might be selling the remote with no batteries

[keen falcon]

I honestly waiting for corruption abilities and a patch of content worth a damn for def scaling

[hasty hearth]

narja be the remote

and nine might be the batteries

[keen falcon]

Yea

I’m just seeing all these builds like YEA DEF DMG SHES DPS WOOOO

🙄 come on now

Then ppl complain she no good when they built her for the wrong stuff anyways

[hasty hearth]

as of right now she's just a better rei

[lavish lark]

@hasty hearth u think there's any 1card build for Narja worth getting before I upgrade her potential ?

[hasty hearth]

not really except like maybe bottomless hunger with epiphany that doesnt rely on proccing voracity

but even then sounds pretty bad

[lavish lark]

I already have chizuru for that one

[hasty hearth]

then nope

[worthy raft]

Def or instinct for 5slot on narja?

[astral gazelle]

instinct ravage typically

instinct ravage, 2pc def

she scales hard with def

if you wanna go supp

scarab

[worthy raft]

Meant as a main stat. And yeah I use ravage set too although I went with 2pc CD , but yeah def is prob better , dont know why i didnt consider it xD

[astral gazelle]

hey big numbers yknow

XD

i think def is better so heal scaling?

not 100% on that one

she feels more utility than big dmg

but the current content needs dmg version of her

[hasty hearth]

what content needs dmg version of her

[astral gazelle]

tower technically gives dmg boost to def

[hasty hearth]

tower

nice meme

[meager junco]

i autoed all 25 stages, i think it will get harder down the road but so far its ez

[gaunt sluice]

why is this so funny if i read this screenshot on this server

[astral gazelle]

lmao wg building the reccomended gear guide

[gaunt sluice]

tbh i just slapped whatever right now

i dont even have optimized gear yet

[drifting flame]

wait did they change repeat battles?

[astral gazelle]

its 1x to clear all the battles

[drifting flame]

best qol

GOTY

[gaunt sluice]

i honestly still don’t know how to build her lol

the main issue is that she needs cards in deck but not much ap or draw gen

[lavish lark]

easiest tip is

you don't.. just build other decks with her

[gaunt sluice]

i want her to support sere

[astral gazelle]

The gems lol

[gaunt sluice]

maybe extra ravage isnt the play when stacking

[astral gazelle]

you can go for ravage boost

and as much voracity as you can chuck

into the build

into more predation

double voluntary, double shackle

[gaunt sluice]

my first build ended up with this lol

[astral gazelle]

you get like 30%+80%

[astral gazelle]

dmg boost from it raw

[gaunt sluice]

i went over the limit so they added an attack card

[astral gazelle]

If i didnt die this run

[lavish lark]

yikes.. a mediocre monster card into a build

[astral gazelle]

they removed my fking 3rd shackles

[gaunt sluice]

2

[astral gazelle]

that goes to zero cost on this build

its just a free draw

and void is draw 1 epi

[gaunt sluice]

well

1

and 1 forbidden

it cycles my deck actually more

[astral gazelle]

for a moment

[gaunt sluice]

but still doesn’t feel that good

[astral gazelle]

thought kasuya saying mine

lol

i need to refarm tho, since diff reset due to death

maybe hp runs arent the way

[gaunt sluice]

tbh i want her e2

[trail lava]

Damn it actually rolled well

[trail lava]

today is a good day to roll double Crit

[worthy raft]

If voluntary control epied to the basic attack upgrade version it would have been such a good deck

[astral gazelle]

If only that shackle gave more than 1 voracity

[worthy raft]

with sereniel its just a free dmg card every turn that doesnt clutter deck.. and voracity is manageable and basically close to spammable with epi V on voluntary control while also boosting lasers.. will maybe use that save editing ticket when we get there on february on that piece epi reroll to make it ideal, unless I somehow luckily get better deck..but still a lot of time until we get there

[hasty hearth]

would have to see how save editing ticket works. After all by then we will be in new season which means we have to farm decks during that time to get the sticker on it to use it in the seasonal content

[meager junco]

probably has some sort of currency that lets us edit xx amount of times

[hallow trout]

so how new unit

[gaunt sluice]

extra nom

[hasty hearth]

shes fine

good but so far nothing like giga gamebreaking

but could be lot stronger when nine comes cuz she can buff defense scaling damage by quite a bit

has future potential, but as of right now just ok

[trail lava]

Anyone tried Magna Khalile Narja?

[gaunt sluice]

no

[hasty hearth]

i mean even if u giga buff defense damage

dont think they gonna be pumping anything close to the ceilings other characters can hit

[trail lava]

still a fun way to play, doing counter attacks non stop

[hasty hearth]

man they really got to change counters

or add mobs that actually make counters work

nothing worse then sitting on like 20 counters

and they only hit u once

[trail lava]

they gotta fix the translation issue first 💀

[meager junco]

didnt u see the video where Amir dealt like 30-40k in one turn 😄

[hasty hearth]

no i didnt but that sounds like a dank meme

[meager junco]

^

not realy a meme build

in my eyes at least

[hasty hearth]

wait this is just normal amir

[gaunt sluice]

wouldn’t a dps def focused naj do more damage though?

and u support her ?

[meager junco]

idk

[gaunt sluice]

like she has a stacking mechanic too to dish out big hits as well

[hasty hearth]

we were talking narja

and metallize is fixed damage isnt it

so buffs dont work on it

[gaunt sluice]

yeah i don’t think amir can use buffs

[hasty hearth]

oh no it isnt

metallize isnt fixed damage

[gaunt sluice]

oh huh?

[hasty hearth]

well according to prydwen

it's just 80% defense scaling damage

doesnt say it's fixed

[gaunt sluice]

i don’t know what half the stuff is

with these translations

[hasty hearth]

if true then yeah pretty nice with amir

[gaunt sluice]

tho tbh i still don’t think i would run her lol

i’m struggling to find a way to e2 narja

there’s not enough free gems to pull

[hasty hearth]

and no i dont think so

her highest hit count is shackles right? with max of 6 hits

50 x 6 even when buffed up is not very strong

[gaunt sluice]

but u can buff relatively easily with her built in kit

[hasty hearth]

i mean its respectable but its nothing crazy

[gaunt sluice]

she has already the support she needs except draw

[hasty hearth]

yeah but at that point why not just buff up mei lin or any other dps with the other shackles epiph lol

[gaunt sluice]

because power creep

[hasty hearth]

sure but narja aint doing the power creeping

[gaunt sluice]

sere just way too strong

[hasty hearth]

yeah but thats still not the narja dps u are talking about

thats just narja buffing the already strong unit not narja as the dps

[gaunt sluice]

yeah lol so it isn’t too crazy but u can build her dps

and match other dps

that isn’t sere

well almost match

[hasty hearth]

narja aint matching mei lin

[gaunt sluice]

cause some combos broken

[hasty hearth]

or tressa

[gaunt sluice]

and they belong in their own category

[hasty hearth]

only time she might come close to mei lin is they limit hit count like they did with galactic

[gaunt sluice]

im still struggling how to optimize her as support tbh

[granite hull]

Interesting deck

[hasty hearth]

just copies of shackles and bottomless hunger

[gaunt sluice]

the best way do far i can think of is e2 then cut down her deck as much as possible

she just uses to much deck space

[meager junco]

did u guys see the Owen strat with this one monster card that lets u copy a selected card in your deck?

u can use it twice with owen

[hasty hearth]

u want the shackle epiph buff next attack card

decrease voracity by up to 5 increase 40% per voracity used

and bottomless obviously for free ap

[gaunt sluice]

then e2 voracity can self regen chance

so u don’t need that many cards to add more voracity

that was my main goal

[gaunt sluice]

owen can dupe monster card effects?

[meager junco]

ya he has one card whose ephi lets u use the next skill card twice

[granite hull]

That always attack weakness aoe card hit pretty hard also

[meager junco]

https://i.imgur.com/hwUxQCK.png

this one

[gaunt sluice]

hmmm

it feels situational to even get tbh

the right setup for that

[astral gazelle]

https://youtu.be/1x9S53jivFA?si=nCTe7OHNoZ7g9AAk

[still sedge]

when is season 2 starting

imma finish the normal stuff i have to do and wait for season 2 to actually play

[hasty hearth]

should be next patch

so 3 weeks from wed

[still sedge]

oh wow, i thought season 2 was gonna be earlier than this

welp at least ill have time to mostly finish arknights

[hasty hearth]

it even said in the roadmap

february season 2

[still sedge]

i just assumed season 2 would right after season 1 end like any other games

guess not and i didnt check roadmap

3 weeks break at least ill take it

[hasty hearth]

yeah seems like they do 1 patch worth of downtime between seasons

[still sedge]

i have literally nothing to do

beside the nee trauma

wont pull narja and did the new endgame 30/30 so i can just sit there and wait

[hasty hearth]

well isnt that great

u can do something else

😄

the calm before the storm

since we gotta farm once season starts

[still sedge]

yeah im gonna stockpile and improve the artifacts on my units

maybe build others i wanna try too

[astral gazelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/s/TfI0juf9Zi

[drifting flame]

[meager junco]

holy all rolls into crits

60% finally

[granite hull]

Nice

I have higher crit but less cdmg

[next jolt]

[worldly ingot]

Noice do you use atk goblet? This is mine currently with one, don't have a good instinct goblet to give.

[meager junco]

nice, u just need an elemental piece and ur piece 3 needs to be swapped for a crit + crit dmg one

then ur set

[worldly ingot]

If I could ever find them, want to avoid crafting unless I absolutely need to because finding double crit can be a pain

[meager junco]

ill craft whenever i can

game provides a lot of stuff anyways

and i want progress right now, not in years 😄

[worldly ingot]

I use the shards, just not the selector ticket

unless a unit comes out I really want

[meager junco]

ah

selector is what i use if i cant get the piece i need

[worldly ingot]

and alot of my gear atm, especially those crit damage pieces, are shared between characters atm

Thankfully the endgame mode isn't difficult atm so I can 30/30 pretty easily still with Hugo/Tressa and Sereniel

[meager junco]

ya my serenial side can easily push solo

im gonna save up for the next limited

bet shes also gonna be broken

although i would like the smol one coming up next

[worldly ingot]

I thought I wanted Narja but decided against it. I'll probably do the same as the 4 star supports are still good

I'm like 20 pity remaining on a guarantee because I lost both 50/50 on Sereniel so couldn't get her E1...hoping season two gives another omega code

[hasty hearth]

most likely will

[worldly ingot]

Guess we'll see in a few weeks. I used my last one to E2 Luke, wanted to get his partner from shop but ended up getting Peko instead

as it's a pretty dead patch, guess I'll give Endfield a go next week

At least I think it's next week

[hasty hearth]

heard people complained bout endfield beta

specifically the gacha

[worldly ingot]

It may not be a permanent thing, I don't have alot of time for gachas so I try to keep it minimal. Have HSR, CZN and AK in my library currently. HSR I've been on the fence for months about dropping.

[meager junco]

smh

u arent even in #1069122628117352558 thread 😄

also 4.0 coming soon, decide after that xD

[drifting flame]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-management-jack-nicholson-yes-duh-nods-gif-1143291559472710487

[worldly ingot]

I am, just haven't spoken then in awhile 😄

[hasty hearth]

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

still just waiting for KR?

hitting the irl casinos until then?

[hallow trout]

waiting for KR, also started to just gacha card packs lol

bought some boxes of origins and one piece

[hasty hearth]

what the

end becoming a tcg collector?

[hallow trout]

just shows you how much I cope without something to play gacha on

[hasty hearth]

go buy the pikachu illustrator card from logan paul

only like $6m u got this

[hallow trout]

nah I hate pokemon tcg

[hasty hearth]

looks like they straight up took it from the manga or something lol

[hallow trout]

never was interested in it even when I was a young lad

[hallow trout]

yep they did lol

[hasty hearth]

wtf

talk about low effort

wasnt there like a luffy card worth a couple grand or something

[hallow trout]

ye but that set jacked up af lol

[hasty hearth]

end down bad

[hallow trout]

msrp $120 boxes being sold for $500+

[hasty hearth]

why dont u go play the idle game everyone is playing

[hallow trout]

im not that cope yet

card like casino maybe I get more than 10% spent back

I hit on riftbound anyways, must be my Korean league bonus

[hasty hearth]

more like special account with his connections

[hallow trout]

hit the chase card in it

[hasty hearth]

wait

i didnt even know riftbound

riot tcg?

[hallow trout]

ye newish

[hasty hearth]

are they worth anything

[hallow trout]

new set dropped like few days ago and riot store crashed cause so many ppl trying to buy

[hallow trout]

eh the kaisa most expensive card in the set, 1.9k ish

but prices seem to be going up cause of the tcg boom happening again

[hasty hearth]

so u just pulled a 2k card casually

[hallow trout]

but im still negative

[hasty hearth]

how much is a box

[hallow trout]

in one piece im even worse

[hasty hearth]

and how many did it take to get that

[hallow trout]

that boa card max like 350ish rn

I bought a case +2 boxes

[hasty hearth]

end really do be down bad

[hallow trout]

~$240 per box

[hasty hearth]

doing the closest thing to slot machines

[hallow trout]

should have joined @feral schooner when he was in the op tcg phase

[hasty hearth]

dont tell me ur gonna become one of those scalpers

[hallow trout]

wym scalping I rip em open

[hasty hearth]

of course u would

why sell the box when u can hit big

[hallow trout]

even negotiated with my lcs for the case on condition I would rip em right there

[hasty hearth]

are u gonna like

get them graded?

[hallow trout]

nah

maybe if I get more to send at once

[feral schooner]

who says im still not in it

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

damb?

salty do u own the expensive luffy card

[hallow trout]

set 13 and 14

set 13 i fucked up

[feral schooner]

not like all you ppl jumping on the hype train

[hasty hearth]

i dont know anything bout op tcg

[hallow trout]

I pulled a wanted luffy and sold it for $100 to a friend before the hype jump

[hasty hearth]

except one of the luffy cards is expensive

[hallow trout]

hey I joined before op exploded this year I was swiping packs in November

[feral schooner]

[hasty hearth]

im guessing both of u dont actually play it

just collecting?

[hallow trout]

I am "playing" it

[hasty hearth]

[hallow trout]

but nah my lcs getting me to actually play, but I can't rn cause the deck im building isn't all out

[hasty hearth]

pulling cards is not "playing"

[hallow trout]

so i can start officially playing in March once the heroine set drops

[feral schooner]

you need to understand miracle theres needs to be a balance between players and collectors for a tcg to succeed

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

why do i feel like

salty is a scalper for op tcg

[hallow trout]

psa stonks going down im getting bgs grading services

[feral schooner]

if theres no secondary market your cards arent worth anything which deincentivizes people to invest in the game

no players

no game

[hallow trout]

yo if salty is sell me boxes msrp ill buy em in bulk

[hasty hearth]

okay so end is sorta kinda playing

and salty is just collecting

[lyric osprey]

So it been few days

Is narja worth getting

[hasty hearth]

kind of up to u

has lot of future potential

but as of right now with what we currently have

shes good but not like gamebreaking

[lyric osprey]

Okay I skip

I'll get her as off banner anyway trust

[hasty hearth]

think once nine revealed then u can kind of decide

[feral schooner]

sell boxes at msrp to the guy with a private jet....ok buddy

[lyric osprey]

I mean nine releave is in feb or something

[hallow trout]

[lyric osprey]

[hallow trout]

OK 40% mark up

[lyric osprey]

CEO end can you get Nine kit for us thanks

[hasty hearth]

yeah but thing is narja is buffer for def scaling damage

[hallow trout]

there's only so many times I can justify buying at 100%+ markup for myself

[hasty hearth]

right now sure u can use with existing

but i speculate nine to be passion vanguard

so nine might be the giga pumper that is good with narja

[lyric osprey]

She probably make mariable or whatever her name broken

She used to do 45k aoe

So i wonder now

[feral schooner]

market is too cooked on boxes. only buyout singles to grade atm

[hasty hearth]

private jet owner needing to justify buying overpriced boxes

[feral schooner]

i recall a certain person posting screenshots of 2.5k slot spins

[hasty hearth]

thats a good amount of boxes he can buy

[feral schooner]

wait end i got the holy grail for you

vintage rare 1999 shanks only 10k @hallow trout

[hasty hearth]

i feel like

end probably would prefer doing 4 slot machine pulls

he needs the dopamine from pulling it himself not obtaining it directly

[hallow trout]

[hallow trout]

this is the actual answer

[hallow trout]

wym that was all @hasty hearth

[hasty hearth]

??????

[feral schooner]

actually reminds me i should go back through my backstock of non psa 10 worthy cards to dump on everyone

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

i would never be down bad enough to play irl casino slots

[feral schooner]

miracle i bet you are great to have around at parties