#CZN gooner gang godz only
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500k without cassius u need a god build tho
but a decent selena + sereniel can easily score 350k
specifically for Great rift too
not really i dont consider my sereniel or selena "god tier"
and i still get diamond
I have Mei Chizuru Sereniel Mika only
selena yeah it is a sereniel exclusive build kinda
but honestly i think selena is very mediocre outside of that anyway
but u dont need 4 homing lasers for a normal build.. thats just the ravage threshold for great rift
i mean
u dont need it but it's still best
like it's free dps still
???
especially if it's divine epiph
I know it's best.. but its still a sereniel built for great rift
anything less than 4 homing lasers per turn.. u dont get the 350k
its like a requirement
it really isnt i think literally all u need is
2 copies of laser + upgrade on sereniel the 1 cost
and 2 copies of selena restore tenacity
sir.. that's 4 homing lasers
and that's easily 500k
yeah but it isnt hard
literally just 1 copy of homing laser
and epiph on the upgrade
everything else is completely optional
dont need divine epiph or anything
hell ill even do a run right now
i wont even bring cassius
and ill even use my worse sereniel deck
how many maneuverings do you have on ur "not built for great rift" Selena 
da fuq is maneuver
restore ravage
so yeah.. builds for great rift
but again selena build is more of a support sereniel exclusive
and as i said
selena is honestly really mediocre outside of being a support sereniel bot
literally build anyone else
also cassius is instinct .. makes him so much better in this rift
also keep in mind ur Sereniel is E2
that adds up a lot
for starters ur pale shooting single-handedly ravages the boss 
it doesnt it requires 5 at the start it only requires 4 if u have afterglow at the start
but yeah u are right
with e2 that is true
I didn't say it's impossible without Cassius.. I just said u need god builds
?????
i even gimped myself round 1 to give myself less turns
rei/selena/sereniel
still got 5 entire turns to get 500k
mind u my rei doesnt even have the upgrade card that enhances 0 cost
does she even have a card?
my rei? Yeah it's just deck i use with renoa
so it's optimized for 1 cost
which sereniel doesnt do
i just threw someone in who has some draw and that's it pretty much
like ????
u dont need a god tier deck at all
and yeah ur point of e2 sereniel does help especially turn 1
but u can definitely make up
5 turns worth of damage for whatever u will be missing
not even optimal round 1 and 5 turns that's same as clearing round 1 with 0 extra turns for round 2 while achieving 500k with still 1 turn left
and no my sereniel potentials are nowhere near max
only thing maxed is crit chance
the unique card damage enhance and crit damage
lvl 2 and 1 respectively
so you 2turned the first phase ?
why do u have 9 turns then
literally does
it only matters if u go past 6/10
if u kill before then
it doesnt matter
cuz it caps at +5
but again for this case again
that literally doesnt matter
because even if u got 0 extra turns
i still wouldve gotten 500k with 1 turn left
kinda matters if u kill it that fast xD
no it doesnt
i literally just said it
even with 0 extra turns
i would still have an entire turn left for 500k
????????????
I'm too lazy doing Mei's builds
it's not mei...
da fuq
it's tressa
just run some tressa + mika comp and u can easily get it
true
but that's beside the point
literally as i said
even with 0 extra turns
i wouldve achieved 500k
just -4 turns that image and what would it say
that's right
1/10
yeah those maths are insane.. but ok
I get the point

tbf I 2tap that shit for weekly and didn't even read what's going on.. don't have a 4 homing laser per turn Sere so I didn't get the 1tap
I still do over 400k per try tho, without Tressa
last great rift tho.. It was definitely Cassius that pushed scores that high tho.. 3 shadow reload tressa was not nearly enough
it is im pretty sure the top decks only had 3
heck i think i even remember seeing some with 2
but they compensated with better cassius or mika deck
u missed the point entirely on that one
I was saying tressa wasn't enough for high score
didn't matter how many shadow reloads u had on her
oh i see what ur saying
eh half true and half not true
dont think shadow reload is the deciding factor
honestly would prefer more stacks of cursed agony tbh to get it really ramping crazy
i m in too deep in ashes of creation lol
I see
this game is feeling like a chore
but dailies here take like 10 mins top.. u dont have to drop
I could understand if it was like Uma 
hmm i guess i could just do dailies with stamina
and not bother with the weekly chaos stuff
what the
they really need to add an auto to chaos after you complete it X amount of times with the same team
oh god so the game is actually good?
yeh me and salty have been grinding hard
the game is actually so good
i didnt really like it at first, but i understand why they did certain things now and it makes the game super engaging
ya that was only day 1 it seems
but ya this game is like the mmorpg experience ive been looking for
i dont think i can go back to korean/chinese mmos after this ngl
not that they werent alrdy shit to begin with 
apparently only real criticism i can see is that ur forced to play with others which duh it's an mmo
but like ur severely gimped if u arent part of a guild apparently
and pking apparently 
ya i like that tbh, cause even in the mindless grinding part, it's exciting
cause there's always something happening
like people try to pk your group for the best farming spots etc
but this game is the first game imo that has perfected the life skill system
oh so
you can completely max lvl your character by just doing life skills and you lvl at a similar pace as people who grind
like early days bdo?
and every life skill intertwines and is useful
yeh lol
but the monsters are scary af
almost impossible to solo
is it just u 2?
unless you fight weak shit that gives little exp
yeh i dont know anyone else that's playing
i mostly play with randoms, but you kind of see the same people throughout the journey lol
cause you're around the same level
yeah theres only so many hardcore grinders after all
like you know how in a lot of new games there is no sense of danger and risk of losing things
plz no
this game you die, you lose exp and some material (not gear - unless you're corrupted for pking)
ughhh
actually u dont lose exp
you go into exp debt
so you cant get more exp til you clear it
lol
i hate negative progress tho
it's more of a progress pause lol
but i mean it's fast
if you die, you clear that xp debt in 5 min
i mean losing materials is negative progress
unless u barely lose any of it
ya true
but that's what makes it fun imo
like there is a sense of danger
i get why people would like it
when i play modern mmos, i m literally falling asleep
but not for me
absolutely abhor negative progress
it's the same for those extraction games
all about that sense of danger
aka negative progress
tbh i thought the same at first
yeh i m the same trust me
when i first started the game, i had a very negative perception of it
no quick travel, no party finder, no filter function in auction house, loss on death
those are things i thought i would really hate
but the more i got into it, the more i understood why they designed it this way
but yeh on paper it doesnt sound good
once you get into it and experience it, it starts to feel good
@hasty hearth try it the next time they reset servers (dunno when thatll be)
say what now reset servers?
yeh cause it's still in an alpha lol
so next phase theyll do something else
I think they said no more wipes
tbh even though this game is in an alpha, it's alrdy better and more complete than most mmos ive played in the last half decade
which is kinda sus
i doubt that
they will 100% wipe
or at least make new servers
doubt it too.. but it is what they said
talking about ashes?
im waiting for the game to be officially in beta to actually bother with it
im assuming for selena u mean to be used with sereniel
Yep
my cassius build is very sus honestly just get the basic cards removed and u can ignore putting the 3 cost card
you could try it now tbh, the game alrdy feels better than a lot of full game releases
but its only one i got with epiph dice trick
for selena u just want the epiph on maneuver and high power scope
everything else is entirely optional but the fury forbidden card is very good
all those divine epiphs are not required obviously good if u get them, but not hard requirements
Ah so u dont rlly remove anything for cassius
nah u do if u look at the date i got that deck long ass time ago
i just never bothered to get a better one cuz it gets the job done
also its preferable to choose the quest instead of the one i have
mine can get real rng especially for great rift pushing 
but if ur just gonna go for 500k then yeah doesnt matter it works
honestly main reason i even left the 2 cost in there is in case it gives me the 0-1-2 quest because then at least i can complete it 
how did u get a divine replica from a normal epiph
oh maybe u replicated be4 epiph
u replicate the card (no epiphany) then u divine epiph into it
exactly this
kinda crazy u got that exact epiph twice 
I did 5 runs with Selena be4 I got that variant
yeah that part i got lucky for sure
but honestly doesnt really do much for me tbh the divine i mean
i already get so much AP from sereniel
the 1ap ravage lasers kinda stupid ap gen tbh
it is
i mean essentially every turn it's minimum +5 ap (2 when they come at start of turn, 2 more when u break his bar, 1 for breaking tenacity)
and then refill tenacity to break it again
yes sir
but without maneuver then yeah +5 ap a turn
each maneuver would give u 3 more ap
bingo
nice
i have one more copy
gl on the copy
(ore didn't give sereniel cards)
and i have 160 cap so i'm good
30 points left so i can afford a divine copy
but since i'll copy the homing laser if it appears that'd just be 140
gl gl
thanks
i tried dragging in veronica and rei so i can thin the copy rng but nope, not as many upgrade epiphanies as i hoped xd
nope, didn't show up
ehhhhh
better than nothing i guess
the worst one tbh but overall still good deck
shining core stole the show
copied it pre-epiphany then proceeded to give me a free create 3 and the upgrade
if ur just aiming for 500k it's definitely good enough
i already have 500k
oh
yeah because of cassius lol
now i understand why he is cheese
right now i'm just doing things on the side
five more agents to give to 60 (just uncapped them)
End gonna need another pilot for new season 
actually fuck it, lemme try that new deck xd
this is much thinner and has two best in slot
still bad copy rng but i think i also played low tier
probably obvious by that stray basic
cobalt light is good tho
that one looks like would run into issues with multiple tenacity breaks in 1 turn
two of those in hand and then 8 lasers
and afterwards you still get to use the lasers
well for galactic rift
takes 5 to break right?
I think 4 if u have afterglow
if it's 5 ull have problem
if it's 4 ur fine
afterglow gives +1
especially post-break
he has 6 bars
so 5 with afterglow
i did 564k but that's because i did a bad play
i know i can beat it
646k
after grinding for hours this is the best I can put up
Im probably gonna try resetting Cassius deck a bit more cuz Im not getting better luck with the Selena deck lmao
Do we have skip button yet
i havent done a chaos in a month, just doing daily stamina and dipping 
Yes
cassius is a huge dmg source
Which is better
The deck
Ik its a crap deck, i rolled nihi on everything but what i wanted
idk
no test with selena since havent got her built
the ravage recovery
2 homing lazers gen 2 ea
and the calling card to recover once
into shooting star
idk
game tried to make me dupe the 2 cost over the plasma
but that didnt feel amazing due to cost
Welp fuckin shield
I love random things being shoved in
What a whale
Oh damn, another big booba ara ara kawai oni chan omenasai waifu, will have to re install and pull again
Feature is coming day before her release

Naked feature?

pale shooting star is stupid op but it's power is definitely based on ur base homing laser and what epiphany u get on it
pale shooting star is fun to play around
slight shame that isnt the ephi card tho
i rather that over the 3 cost
it's especially op with cassius since it counts as playing those cards
so if u have 0 0 0 quest it counts as 5 0 cost being played when u play that
i need to find the 0 0 0 choose quest
straightforward.
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no wonder she felt so weak 

Totally
I play on my pc with mods and I have that feature
could be better.. but its good enough
has all the BiS .. except for Cobalt.. but it's divine with -1 cost
Hm duplicate 2 cost interestin
oh its one of the best targets for the copy
Im still trying to hunt for wing body
Pale shooting is op
more the reason to copy pale shooting
Sereniel is too strong in chaos tho.. that run.. I think I took 5 hits in total.. counting bosses
nothing survives more than 2 turns
sere can self carry
I should start on runs for selena but im lazy
wAiT uNtIl NeXt SeAsOn
and she also has 2 Unique variants.. so makes her insane for chaos carry
Buuut
Im silver rank onli
I want a lil more
Need to rebuild the mei team also
Also
I have this problem with healer girl
Do i toss like 20 medkits on her
So i get infinite draw

Those medkits seem to occupy very little space
what medkits.. do u mean Gear bags?
Yea
smh just get draw inspirations on the 0 cost ap gen cards
but u can probably dump gear bags too
yeah just win the lottery
isn’t that the point of this game?
go into chaos to rng builds
repeat until optimal

what a grinder
What a coincidence that's how long redo of healer season 1 lasts
point taken but maths are so off 
It took me 69 hours
Actually both, paused and rewinded

nope
when in doubt.. just max seasonal shit 
narja
if i had to guess
it would be passion
thats only element we havent gotten new character for yet
I skipped her.. so it slipped my mind
i dont think narja would be vanguard...
passion vanguard or passion controller is my guess
How are you guys running sereniel in chaos runs? I feel like it's so hard with cassius/selene
no heals TT
leaning towards controller because nine looks like a vanguard
what u mean hard..
???????
sereniel literally deletes everything
sereniel*
LOL
Oh
sereniel is gearaed
i'm running chaos 10 and it's not as smooth as hugo/tressa/mika
then replace cassius with mika
or selena with someone else
depending on who ur farming for
Farming for sereniel
the combined team is bonkers with BUILT DECKS
not in chaos where ur BUILDING THE DECK
honestly u can use anyone with sereniel
just deletes everyone
but if u want better copy chances for quite literally any target character
u go rei/veronica
cuz they have a lot of unique card options
rei/veronica also gives +5 to Mutant Sample
if u want more sustain just replace rei with mika
I think mika will be soon dethroned from best support
hope so we need more supports
More controllers and vanguards
we need use for vanguards
yeah mainly use for vanguards because there is no point to them
it's even worse when i don't have magna nor khalipe and thus my only option is maribell
doesnt matter both are sitting on the bench anyway
for quite literally everything
My Rei’s working overtime with all these different dps
anyone get this error on ld?...
unfortunately i dont use emulator
or maybe fortunately if that is happening to all emulator players 
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Controller and Instinct
ya i hate when devs dont try to even out elements
in bleach we have the same problem, strike "element" has gotten zero new units so far meanwhile all other elements are OP as fuck atm
fucking dum fucks dont know how to balance a game
Yah fk passion gimme more instinct sluts I'm all for it
she isnt limited anyway, so pass
waiter waiter, more instinct controllers please
doesn't look like she heals much
i farmed void and passion potential for like a week
both my guesses were wrong
wait thought u said u quit cuz of ashes 
kas convinced me to stay on and just use my stamina since it's fast and on auto lol
but i m not doing those chaos runs anymore
i just put the game on auto farm for like 5 min everyday before bed lol
she sucks ur deck dry
even when new season hits?
Big boobs no pass
maybe here and there but not gonna play like before when i try to minmax every character
can only do so much chaos before it gets boring lol
mine is guranteed in 3
sere p3
if i use it
isnt sere p4 one of the threshold for dmg boost
it is yeah
but i really cant imagine them not gating her next season in terms of power level
especially since nine looks like a vanguard 
we need content where tanking gives points
and you can choose how hard enemies hit
xd
Ya
vanguards so useless when you can heal anything/nuke them
honestly u were playing too much @mellow bolt
at the beginning.. kinda surprised u didn't burn out sooner
current vanguards are useless doesnt mean they might make future vanguard kits op
or possibly forced due to crippling other strats 
the issue is how content is scored/played out
i mean if they force us to tank and spank for one season of galactic rift im okay with that
as long as it isnt some card spam strat ill honestly take anything at this point
im sure they probably developing it
but this game is really complex to get even a half decent auto battle going
so probably gonna take quite a while
they will probably pull that out when players leave from burnout
well again this game is lot more complicated to make an auto battler compared to other games
so even if they wanted to release it they cant
cause controlled auto is make or break with this type of games
a mod existing doesnt mean that's what majority of players wanted
i get that people want auto in CZN but it really just needs lot of time to get it working
so many different decisions that need to be accounted for
how does auto cassius pick a card work? Ur allowed to select it? How does game know to play 1 card over the other? How does it know to use yuki card that gives inspiration to card in hand before playing that card? There are so many different cases that need to be accounted for that isnt required in other games
im talking more of the auto in content that alr have auto being more specific
like card priority for example
im fine with farming out the chaos
yeah that's the issue tho for CZN
since it is the main powercap
in autoing simulation content
these cases still apply to that
chaos would be even more complicated
my cases were strictly outside chaos
chaos would be a mess
imagine autoing and the ai runs straight into a elite purple
i mean even the simplest sounding solutions
for chaos there always exceptions where you wanna do something else i feel
like pre-selecting the route, allowed to customize every selection for every event, pre-select every epiphany, etc
that sounds like 1. an absolute nightmare to code and 2. setting that shit up in the first place sounds giga aids
true
yea
the company probably cares too much about "player engagement" aka playing the game metrics too much right now
pls pls let me rr once
agreed
i would totally be fine with a singular reroll heck even if it costs like 10 sands of time
nope
only know instinct rite
instinct controller
dupe 2
1 into nihi
literally the most important card
rip
but didnt inspo draw 2 basics
it was
cobalt light no cost is nice
rip
goes down to 0
technically cost neutral yea
ill take 8+ hit cobalt light any day
due to ravage giving back
yeah there's 2 cobalt light better than that one
but I didnt get any of them
I think the other 2 options where non-epiph card with an extra option
I still do 800k without the most important card.. but it's kinda tilting
cause I would easily do 1.1m with that card
my sereniel doesnt even have the increasing homing laser damage on the 1 cost

in fact ive never seen that option yet
nope never seen it
nor do i care for it got my diamond rank and no point since we gotta refarm next week anyway
yeah cause u got to use the best card on her deck 
i mean the plasma epiph is stupid strong
im missing a lot of damage because i dont have it tbh
even 1 copy of it
Mine is just
ur playing like 10+ homing lasers
Questionable
thats minimum 600%+ a turn
I can't even break the boss twice with a full rotation @hasty hearth
Fking shield random
feelsbadman
I can break like 3 4 ish if i got selena setup
But
Didnt find a since copy regain tenacity
Last 5 times i tried
also my selena is trash for the event..
but I can't farm a better deck.. been trying for days
@hallow trout u found a pilot for next season? 
wait
I just noticed
She only has 1 Tactical Manuever?????
no fking wonder I could never get 2 a turn
i love how forbidden eternal is just a free passion card
can slot into veron for mei lin stacking
nope im burnt out

maybe time to move onto kings raid revive
thats what i call a massive downgrade
welp end lasted longer than we all expected
True
I wonder when was the last time he played tho.. getting burnt out 3 days be4 new season is

Trust narja will motive him for one more week
nah
new season is more mechanics.. probably new dungeon and shit to do
it's not about Narja
u know it's end of the line for end when he can't drop a ton of money consistently

its the same shit 
There nothing to swipe for anyway acording to road map. copage
Ngl can't wait for the simplifed simu gamplay
Daily will take 4sec
hopefully story skip feature includes chaos
True
so
the endless clicking to do chaos.. it's exhausting
since narja isnt even shown for jan
and sereniel and nine are
does that mean nine the next new op

but from looks of it
definitely sounds like they want us to skip narja
nine is a passion vanguard is my guess
should be better yeah

end is the weird guy who isnt dumb enough to sink money into afk/idle games
but wants a game where u can dump that much money in


quit ur czn acct and take over mine 


are u gonna keep spending on it

ill aptly name change it
Rich Korean CEO
anyone in this discord would know who it is
I mean ot has like 300k gems still
wtf

honestly
lol
dont need to swipe
tempting
And then I take miracle's acc nice.
is this my C suite executive bonus for being underpaid
damn.. 300k gems is wild

true 300k gems would last me.... a very long time
but Mir wont be able to act as a f2p anymore 
no its me crying because im getting underpaid by u
you probably have a black card in that wallet 
entry level payment for csuite position

i mean if ur actually quitting
sure ill take over ur account
name change to CEO End
to refill up funds
damn?
Narja E6 It is I guess
Narja skipperino it is i guess
not seasonal = skip 😄
man i hate it
i pulled for yuki and chizu just to fucking pull their dupes from general pool banner

literally makes 0 sense
as in?
you pulled for a character u didnt want.. so u could get dupes from the general banner?

no
i got "lucky" to get their dupes from general banner
as in i could have saved pulling for them but then get them for free
is what i was trying to say
lol ya maybe
grinded that chaos way too much
Yeah i'm not pulling most none limited if they going to general pool anyway; I got my Yuki for free and i'm happy with that
and after 200 times on the same character and u dont get a decent deck, yep easily burned out

yeah
ill just save general pool pulls
u were doing a ton of daily runs
and ill end up getting the normal units either way down the line
Yeah
@mellow bolt i am now proud owner of an account that's more whale than moo's
"owner"
remember that other gacha game that came out right before this with a roguelike builder? it had the auto completion after and you choose what you want to build your "deck"
i forgot the name
i feel like in CZN, they should just give us that after x amount of runs with the same team
Stella sora?
ye lol
I was not expecting End to answer that one 
lmao
you're piloting end?
he perma pilot
he is taking over, selling point was "300k gems in it"
bad pilots


that one is ass and permanent

@hasty hearth you're going to play 2 accounts now?
man you're going in the opposite direction of me
nah, he will quit his
what other bait did you fall for
to make you completely stop czn lol
nah
mines retired now

hes gonna play kings raid
time for you to get your own pilot @hasty hearth

I never played the original kings raid

so the upcoming cbt is good bait test to see if its good
or if its a pass 
basically
hes either gonna get baited and whale kings raid
or hit the irl casinos
realistically
probably both at the same time

oh he is unironically gonna play kings raid
im absolutely disgusted
end is using instinct set on sereniel

well whatever not the worst
cuz the actual pieces he has are kinda

man end's rainbow cards are all over
damn
he didnt even do sereniel trial for 20 gems
not worth his time 
I mean would you do it if you had 300k and unlimited money
Oh wait, you doing it rn

wait wtf
he has every partner maxed too thought it was just agents
oh he spent all the dna strands

Im almost f2p and it's not worth my time either 
i did 10 pull on card gacha got another sereniel card
this account already lucky
my card skin luck absolutely terrible

CEO account perks. EX+ luck surely

financial stability in the imagination
damn so slave wages just like ur czn pilot
ban them
whoops
not every day 



@hallow trout ur account isnt fair lol
my guy was burnt out farming for a 4x tact serena deck with draw divine
think he said he did like 3 full days of 6-7hr straight runs
i would be too if all i was getting was $50

couldnt hit and he just said sorry but my sanity cant handle anymore
i paid him for trying tho
im not that evil 
imagine getting paid $50 to farm for 3 days with almost full time job hours
actual slavery

true could be possible
4x tact 
basically he didnt know what he was doing
if he was looking for that
some people just doesn't struggle
Trust it's totaly mine
My Selena is a peasant one I think I only have 3 tact
I gave up trying
I haven't touched the event in the past week or two
I don't even know anymore just using stam and waiting for tower
XD
Didn’t get the weekly rewards?
It's fine
But jokes aside i NEED to finish the event story
I haven't
I kept telling myself later i'll have time to sit a read
But now I got about two days to do it
better get hustling
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Today I will be showcasing the newest unit in Chaos Zero Nightmare, Sereniel. She is beyond broken and just an absurdly powerful unit, in this video I display her being able to beat some endgame content people still struggle with on auto mode she is that strong I don't even have to play and she'll clear it for...
E6 Sereniel 
said he can do e2 but wtf are those stats
almost 1k attack
62.5% crit
213 crit damage

only casual affinity lvl 34
yeah you can also kill Mike tyson with a spoon
still in master with score?
ye raised ur rank
from 700 to like 400's

he doesnt run elemental dmg which is why his atk is so high
My Sereiniel is E4 atm, i can dupe her to E5 with the universal event dupe but ill wait
also did i do something wrong... im NOWHERE near clearing all 3 shops
I need this rei and 0 card deck 
refresh for a tier 14 and look for that remove 2 god option
and then u want Mutant sample... and ff after first waypoint









maybe he's in some third world country