CZN gooner gang godz only

[mellow bolt]

And I have enough draw and ap on the passion cards to stack Mei Lin

The original idea was just to use a 0 card deck on anyone, but Hugo here at least provides a bit of benefit

[drifting flame]

3 units with 0 card in 1 team

[mellow bolt]

i m sure one day, a combined deck of like 4-5 cards would go insane lol

just the same cards every single turn

and 2 of the cards is draw 2 from graveyard

[unkempt arrow]

Made that Amir deck

Playing her feels cope sometimes but she’s not the worst

[mellow bolt]

anyone here a cassius enjoyer? who are the best teammates for him to get through a tough chaos run?

[drifting flame]

chizuru

[hasty hearth]

for my deck i think it was khalipe, renoa, cassius

but if ur trying to go for like 170 points then might not be enough sustain

[mellow bolt]

if luke + chizuru, gonna have to pray for some miracle crits lol

[mellow bolt]

hmm ya i dunno

this tier 15 map i cant rest in safe zones and has 2 fortitude every 3 turns lol

also -70% credits lol

not sure if i should even bother

or reroll

[hasty hearth]

the fortitude wont be that bad prob but

the no rest

[mellow bolt]

i think fortitude messes up luke

[hasty hearth]

especially with cassius

sustain might be sus

[mellow bolt]

cause he ends up doing like 0 dmg with his bullets

[hasty hearth]

oh ur running luke

yeahn yeah he fked

[mellow bolt]

oh i mean i dont have to

i could run whoever

just need to build this cassius then i can move on

[mellow bolt]

ya no rest is prob the worst debuff lol

@hasty hearth do you know how many points i need to build this deck?

if i dont need 170 i m gonna reroll this map

[hasty hearth]

just removing isnt that like 100 points?

[mellow bolt]

yeh

how much does copying cards cost?

[hasty hearth]

if it's non divine epiph then 10 points i think

[mellow bolt]

oh ok that's not bad then

it's a cheap deck

only 120 or 130

btw to build 1 card decks it's actually not that impossible

1. get tier 15 map
2. remove 2 at beginning
3. pray for the convert mutant sample event
4. pray for no more than 1 epiphany triggers
5. pray for a shop or event to remove
6. leave and save at the first checkpoint

but for me i settled mostly for 2 card decks lol

[hasty hearth]

thats a lot of praying

[mellow bolt]

ya lol

it's the only way to get the 1 card deck i think

[worldly ingot]

It would probably be easier for newer units if you try this before building potentials

[mellow bolt]

oh true

[worldly ingot]

Depending on the one card you're after ofc

[mellow bolt]

if you dont have beryl potentials built

do that with her

and have her only card the draw 3 exhaust card in deck

or Selena's upgrade card as the only card would be good too

[hasty hearth]

narja, sereniel, not sure who last person is

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

oh

nine

[drifting flame]

[mellow bolt]

right one 100%

[drifting flame]

chizuru sure is fun

[mellow bolt]

whale

nice 8%

[drifting flame]

fck this game had 2 karmic and 2 tsukiyomi

[lavish lark]

how is that game's fault.. u can literally see your limit

[drifting flame]

I get lucky run when doing low tier

Then trash and dead runs on high tiers

[lavish lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064251784324988968/1230656756376670208/classique.gif

[hollow ledge]

a stupid memei lin deck

[mellow bolt]

besides the dice trick epi, are there any must haves on cassius for the tressa spam

[hasty hearth]

nope thats really bout it

@mellow bolt what do u get for seize the opportunity

100% damage next attack card used? Upgrade?

[mellow bolt]

who's card is that?

[hasty hearth]

luke

[mellow bolt]

luke?

ya i kept it for the dance of the demon

[hasty hearth]

it doesnt have retain tho right

[mellow bolt]

ya the attack one

nope lol

just gotta pray

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt for rapid fire do u like 3x shot more or retrieve

[mellow bolt]

hmm i think both works, but if youre going for a deck 3x is better

cause you lose retrieve after the first use

so you only get 4 bullets for one turn then only 2 after that

[unkempt arrow]

Built an even better Amir and lowkey feels like a cross between a Magna and a Yuki

Worth

Gonna build Luke next most likely

Anyone that runs Luke what do you use gear wise?

Order set/ cdmg or 2/2/2?

[hasty hearth]

i did order set + attack

[unkempt arrow]

Interesting

I do have some cracked order gears sitting around

In case I pulled Hugo finally

They’d use the same gear so why not

I just switched my Vero to passion set to free up some other gears too

[mellow bolt]

this game needs to relax

i just did 5 runs in a row and got to the replicate event in interior without getting epiphany on dice trick

wasting time is fun

[unkempt arrow]

Bro

Good luck

I did 30+ runs yesterday for Vero 0 1ap repose

Finally got it

But the duped repose ended up being the wrong one

And I missed it on dupe event twice

Despite only having like 5cards available for it

[mellow bolt]

Classic

I guess it’s one way to keep players playing

The line between fun and tedious becomes blurred after enough runs

[shut talon]

not mine ofc

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth would it be dumb if I got a deck with 4 dice tricks

Or should I copy something else as my 4th like joker

Ok well…this might be kind of bad or really good…we’ll see lol

[hasty hearth]

yeah hand size issue

especially with tressa i run into hand size issue with 2 dice trick

granted i have 4 shadow reload, but it definitely would still be a problem with 3

[drifting flame]

Whale 🐳

[hasty hearth]

no u

[drifting flame]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-cute-gif-10462924222323919853

[mellow bolt]

Turn 3 kill lol

[mellow bolt]

Hmm ya

I’ll also need to remake my Tressa and get a much smaller deck going

How long did it take you to get phase 2 done? I heard it takes a long time with that team

[hasty hearth]

u just use up all ur turns

even if u kill it it comes back with full hp

[mellow bolt]

This is going on forever wtf

I feel like if I played this right I can get over 1k lol

But ya it’s a serious clog fest

Every 3 daggers I do I get 5 cassius cards lol

[unkempt arrow]

Geared him finally

I have to do his potentials tmr but

[meager junco]

First u gotta lvl him xd

[hollow ledge]

i got bondage raiden, time to stuff her with resources

might be a good partner for luke e2

[mellow bolt]

Anyone know the cost for a divine epi + 3 dupes?

Like is it even possible to build a god Mika deck without a tier 15 map mixed with a mutant sample?

Need to remove basic attack+whirlpool which is 50

I got a divine epi on source of water, copied it 3 times and it went over, on a tier 14 map

[hasty hearth]

4 copies total?

If so then i think it's 120

[mellow bolt]

Ya

And how much is it for just a divine epi trigger?

Like 20?

[hasty hearth]

30

[mellow bolt]

Hmm

[hasty hearth]

divine epiph on any card is 30 points

[mellow bolt]

Ok so 4 divine epi on source of water + 1 removal + 1 convert + 1 more divine epi on another card

That’s 170

So only way to get the god run is a tier 15 map with mutant sample

When I roll a tier 15 map again I’m not doing anything else but running it til I get this on my Mika lol

[lavish lark]

divine epi is 20 points on a character card

its 30 on neutral cause it takes double effects

[mellow bolt]

hmm so we just need a tier 14 map with a mutant sample

damn

i just rolled 3k worth to get a tier 15 map

[hasty hearth]

oh u right 20 points on character card

[mellow bolt]

btw the dice rolling in this game is so cancer

[hasty hearth]

yeah

[mellow bolt]

i go through dice so fast cause it takes 5 tries to beat a 10 dice check

[hasty hearth]

ive failed a 6 roll like 7 times in a row before

[mellow bolt]

like come on at least pity the probability

if it's a 10, it should be 50%, after 3 times just pity that shit

basically doing runs without any dice available is a waste of time

i just failed dice check on mutant sample on 2 runs back to back

[mellow bolt]

classic

@hasty hearth i think if youre going to farm for a specific deck

dont even bother wasting dice on anything but mutant sample

[hasty hearth]

yeah

too bad i rarely get that event

[mellow bolt]

yeh it's rare

you just gotta do the event chaos

and keep restarting over and over

[drifting flame]

No more 10 pulls every Sunday?

Trash game

[hasty hearth]

trueee

[fallen kindle]

[lavish lark]

weekly visit

[fallen kindle]

@hasty hearth poe2 in 4 days, login

[hasty hearth]

ye imma play

wheres my mirror tho

[fallen kindle]

playing druid?

[hasty hearth]

nope

druid didnt really look all that interesting to me

[fallen kindle]

soon when new league starts

[hasty hearth]

imma league start merc

then imma try cooking up some bleed witch build

[fallen kindle]

looks cool but seems hella weak

deadeye got nerfed but still good ngl

[hasty hearth]

yeah none of the skills in the video screamed op to me

[lavish lark]

all they showcase always looks weak af

[fallen kindle]

pathfinder seems really goodge now, I might go pathfinder this time

[fallen kindle]

can go zdps gardener build, water the plants

the temple mech seems fun but looks tedious

[hasty hearth]

ill pass

what about u

dont tell me ur gonna go deadeye

[fallen kindle]

idk still undecided

can finally play "seriously" this time coz no more distraction

hopefully performance is better, coz last time was fking dogshit

[hasty hearth]

yeah u were a filthy casual last league

[fallen kindle]

ik might be my worst league by far lmao

[hasty hearth]

now u owe me 2 mirrors

[fallen kindle]

should be the other way around, you're the one with 12 mirrors last league

[hasty hearth]

no u abandoned me and u owed me a mirror now u owe 2 because of interest

[fallen kindle]

I owe you real gameplay this time

what was your build last time I forgot? did you play hollow palm monkey?

[hollow ledge]

the day 7 ten pull on standard

[fallen kindle]

[hollow ledge]

my yuki is now e2

[fallen kindle]

gz

[hasty hearth]

i league started amazoness whirlwind build

[fallen kindle]

I actually playing czn again

[hasty hearth]

then went hollow palm monk yeah

[hasty hearth]

wtf i didnt even know u started

[fallen kindle]

yeah like 2 days ago

[hollow ledge]

I've been playing Luke, Chizuru, Rei.
Comp's pretty fun

[fallen kindle]

help me mir

[fallen kindle]

I did then quit like 5 days after rel.

[hasty hearth]

[fallen kindle]

I wanna play rin as main dps

[hasty hearth]

ofc u do

f2p?

[fallen kindle]

spent a bit

[lavish lark]

never doubted my luck

E3 Orlea goldfish btw..

[fallen kindle]

@hasty hearth is there a point spending?

[lavish lark]

E3 is literally a downgrade

cause u dont get to merge them anymore for the proc

[fallen kindle]

[hasty hearth]

holy shit he really do be just starting

[fallen kindle]

had to quit coz I have problem playing multiple games, it's so time consuming

now that er is gone we good

now playing czn and wuwa

then poe2 soon

[mellow bolt]

gone?

wdym

you actually quit ER?

[hasty hearth]

he finally quit

took him long enough

[mellow bolt]

lmao

what pushed you over the edge

[fallen kindle]

yep sold it

[hasty hearth]

$100? cuz it's dead game?

[mellow bolt]

sold?

lol

who the hell is buying an ER account

[fallen kindle]

our guild decided to quit, majority of us quit so no point playing

[mellow bolt]

ah

welcome to the party

just 3 months late but at least youve made it

[fallen kindle]

the idiots

[fallen kindle]

$400

[mellow bolt]

how much you spend

[fallen kindle]

I think I sold it almost month ago now so about 2 mos late

[fallen kindle]

4-5k should be around that, not that much if I'm being honest

[mellow bolt]

oh that's not terrible

10% recovery

[fallen kindle]

yep, I've seen worse like my guildie

[mellow bolt]

usually it's like $40k, sell it for $400 lol

[fallen kindle]

yep lol, I don't even wanna sell at that point if I spend that much

just keep playing, sunk cost kekw

[mellow bolt]

that's me in every game lol

i can still log into my ER account rn

[fallen kindle]

why don't you sell your acc

[mellow bolt]

dont even have the motivation to take pictures and write descriptions lol

[fallen kindle]

yeah I feel you lol, hate that part

you playing new league moo? poe2

[mellow bolt]

i m not too sure yet

[fallen kindle]

kinda sadge there's not much endgame contents

[mellow bolt]

having to go through that tedious campaign again

right now i m just enjoying CZN + WWM and a bit of DNA on the side

[fallen kindle]

[mellow bolt]

just chillin lol

[fallen kindle]

must be nice

[mellow bolt]

yeh this is the chillest ive ever felt gaming lol

[fallen kindle]

same

[mellow bolt]

no fomo anywhere

just do whatever

[fallen kindle]

feels good indeed

no good baits coming atm

[mellow bolt]

there's also ashes of creations coming out in 3 days but i dont know about that lol

[fallen kindle]

arknights endfield waiting for that

[mellow bolt]

i might try it just to see how the game feels

[hasty hearth]

gross

[fallen kindle]

factory must grow

[fallen kindle]

hard pass

[mellow bolt]

for satisfactory and factorio enjoyers

which is not me lol

[fallen kindle]

riot mmo when

[mellow bolt]

so hard to get into automation games

[fallen kindle]

only downside I've seen so far is there's no endgame content atm

[mellow bolt]

it's also another open world single player gacha game

[fallen kindle]

you guys need to play wuwa, I came back again. shit is just peak

[mellow bolt]

i guess if you arent burnt out like me on those ones, then you would enjoy it

[fallen kindle]

I play daily for about 15-20 mins, feels good

[mellow bolt]

i literally just quit that game again recently lol

[fallen kindle]

5 mins daily

[mellow bolt]

i went back , pulled augusta and iuno

then uninstalled

[fallen kindle]

wtf why, maintenance pretty ez, you just login for few mins then you good

[fallen kindle]

bro lol

[mellow bolt]

been playing it since day 1, got bored of the end game loop

[fallen kindle]

you saw the biker waifu?

[mellow bolt]

you might as well play WWM

same kind of content

but there's multiplayer

and pvp

[fallen kindle]

same also quit like months later

[fallen kindle]

wym I played wwm, I was in eden

[mellow bolt]

you quit?

[lavish lark]

I was borderline psycho on Wuwa .. cleared every monster in the world for the first 2 months... 6 daily hours

[fallen kindle]

"taking a break"

[mellow bolt]

when wuwa came out, it was so peak

fighting the lvl 100 holograms at lvl 60 was some of the most fun

now the game doesnt quite feel the same, it's not as raw as before

[fallen kindle]

@mellow bolt did you buy those 2k weapon reforge skin?

[mellow bolt]

now every new unit does insane mechanics

like iuno+augusta just destroys everything with ease

[fallen kindle]

I'm waiting for phrolova + canta, coz they're like the best duo

[mellow bolt]

nah lmao, i just got the red flaming costume one and called it a day, also i play dual blades

so i dont think there is one for that wep yet

only for sword

[fallen kindle]

damn not whale enough, you better get those weapon skin don't forget the 40k boat

[mellow bolt]

i spent about $800 for pilots for me and my friend

ive barely played the game

[fallen kindle]

lmao

[mellow bolt]

they did everything for me

[fallen kindle]

that's good then

[mellow bolt]

ive lost my will to do side quests and exploration

[fallen kindle]

lmao

[mellow bolt]

ive done too many of them this year

[fallen kindle]

fun part is killing bosses

[mellow bolt]

ya

i love doing the no hit trials

now it's just a waiting room for gvg ngl lol

[fallen kindle]

no hit no attack, you just deflect/dodge all attacks

[mellow bolt]

i dont like 1v1 arenas for the same reason i dont like fighting games

too many sweats

[fallen kindle]

lmao

[mellow bolt]

i just cant compete vs some kid who plays 24/7

so not even gonna bother playing competitively

[fallen kindle]

good point what else you playing aside from those 2?

[mellow bolt]

just CZN, WWM and DNA casually lol

not playing much

[fallen kindle]

dna lmao

[mellow bolt]

just came back from traveling not too long ago

[fallen kindle]

playing dna instead of wuwa

[mellow bolt]

DNA i dont actually play manually lol

i only run it on a macro

[fallen kindle]

wtf lmao

everything's automated

[mellow bolt]

play smart not hard

[fallen kindle]

you're right

[mellow bolt]

ya just waiting for next bait lol

[lavish lark]

we need Star Savior

[fallen kindle]

def. not that game

[mellow bolt]

now i m a bit more picky with baits though, this year was a lot of unfun games with money poured into them for no reason lol

[fallen kindle]

gonna be doa game

[mellow bolt]

it's like we pay into these games and spend time grinding tedious shit in hopes of some unknown future fun which never comes lol

[mellow bolt]

gonna be ER 2.0 lol

[fallen kindle]

seems worse than er if I'm being honest, game is dedge on kr/jp, rate so low over there, about 1-2 star lmao

mainly bcoz of their dogshit mone

[fallen kindle]

exactly

[mellow bolt]

truly reformed

[fallen kindle]

[hasty hearth]

yeah star savior cooked itself with archetype design + pvp balance

"how do we make ourselves different?" -> let's not have ANY strategy except for speed + dps

B R I L L I A N T

[lavish lark]

so what is the next bait then

[hasty hearth]

imma be playing poe this friday

[lavish lark]

me too

[fallen kindle]

I mean all of us playing poe2

fck these gacha games

[hasty hearth]

cept will i actually see zian play the game

[lavish lark]

but they didn't touch endgame much.. so it's still shit

[fallen kindle]

[mellow bolt]

how long did you guys last in poe2 last season

[hasty hearth]

well got to see how the drop change feels

[fallen kindle]

I mean they added some qol and the temple seems good enough

[hasty hearth]

the 40% less monsters but 40% increased health + drops on mobs

[fallen kindle]

[hasty hearth]

dude my favorite part of poe

[fallen kindle]

what's your thought about that?

[hasty hearth]

C O R R U P T I O N

[fallen kindle]

I'm a bit sadge

less mons density

[hasty hearth]

would have to wait to play to see how it feels but first impression i dont like it

i like blasting giant packs

[mellow bolt]

this sounds straight up like a worse time lol

takes longer to kill a mob and less monsters

[fallen kindle]

no more intills btw, so you can just use your basic currencies to mod waystones gladge

[hasty hearth]

oh yeah

but honestly fine with that

too much micromanaging

[mellow bolt]

theyre prob trying to figure out how to improve performance, so they lower monster density lol

i forgot how terrible poe2 performance is

[hasty hearth]

that could be part of it for sure

[fallen kindle]

then delirium fog, looks better now, fck the fog

[hasty hearth]

honestly i didnt have any poe2 performance issues for a while

so cant really relate to that

[mellow bolt]

it's just really unoptimized

[fallen kindle]

last league was my worst performance by far, that shit was hella laggy

[mellow bolt]

oh wait

last season, with the green shit and the monster spawns

[hasty hearth]

shouldve spent that 4-5k from ER on a new pc

[mellow bolt]

it lagged

[fallen kindle]

and I had a fkin bad start, fking stuck on a portal can't go in

what a good way to start the league

[mellow bolt]

i got a 14900k + 2x 4090s + 128 gb ram, cant handle poe2

[fallen kindle]

I'll buy new set when new gpu dropping

[hasty hearth]

rich as hell

[fallen kindle]

I'm broke

rich is moo

[mellow bolt]

the new graphics cards are apparently way more effecient

[fallen kindle]

and you mir

[hasty hearth]

me?

im poor compared to moo

[mellow bolt]

if the 6000 rtx series is as effecient as 5000 is compared to 4000

[fallen kindle]

60 series gpu soon

[hasty hearth]

well i just recently upgraded

[mellow bolt]

then you prob only need a 6070 to do most gaming

[hasty hearth]

so not gonna upgrade for another minimum 4 years

[fallen kindle]

[mellow bolt]

i feel like gaming wise, theyll never even use the capabilies of a 4090 lol

[fallen kindle]

no point buying latest anyways if you're just playing fking mobile games

[mellow bolt]

the 90s are only for rendering stuff

[hasty hearth]

yeah true spend that gpu money on swiping more instead

[fallen kindle]

nah f that, I think it's still worth it buying new gpu than spending on shit gacha games

[mellow bolt]

buy an android phone just for gaming so you can use macros on it

[fallen kindle]

true

[mellow bolt]

truly reformed mindset damn

[fallen kindle]

can do both why not

[hasty hearth]

zian just gonna get his stipend from scarlet

[fallen kindle]

[fallen kindle]

where's my stipend from yours

[mellow bolt]

what game is scarlet maining now after leaving ER

[fallen kindle]

[fallen kindle]

no clue, probably czn, wwm

we're actually finding good baits so we can dom again

[hasty hearth]

when i get my mirrors

[fallen kindle]

keep mentioning that shit, you owe me 5 mirrors now

[hasty hearth]

then u owe me 7

[fallen kindle]

can't wait for new league, games pretty dry atm

[lavish lark]

u can always try to escape from tarkov

[fallen kindle]

or arc raiders

[lavish lark]

arc raiders expedition is the 17th I think

[fallen kindle]

[hasty hearth]

zian needs to get farming on his czn account

hes like a day 1-2 account

[trail lava]

chat its happening

hope i get Ore Vein instead of the useless Demise Gate

[fallen kindle]

gimme good comps to use

[hasty hearth]

i got u

kayron/lucas/owen

[fallen kindle]

LMAO

fkin rat

I'm allergic to dudes

[hasty hearth]

sexist

[fallen kindle]

so be it

I really like rin gameplay, and her skill animations

[hasty hearth]

it's definitely the animations

[mellow bolt]

@fallen kindle youll get a lot of hours of gameplay out of czn trying to farm for a good deck

not that fun of gameplay, but definitely a lot of hours

[fallen kindle]

Where do you mainly farm decks? Chaos?

[mellow bolt]

yeh

[hasty hearth]

codex + event chaos yeah

[mellow bolt]

you wont get to the farming stage for awhile though

youre gonna need to make your characters stronger first

[fallen kindle]

the harder the difficulty more chances you saved majority of your decks? how does it work?

[mellow bolt]

it's like maps

in poe2

you reroll them for higher tiers, but it comes with more debuffs

[fallen kindle]

Oh I see

[mellow bolt]

but there is also the lvl of monsters

[hasty hearth]

@fallen kindle u get a big bonus if u use the team i mentioned

[mellow bolt]

itll be easier to explain once you get there

[hasty hearth]

but not in game bonus. Gigachad bonus from the discord

[fallen kindle]

@hasty hearth ngl even if they’re “busted” which is not I’d never play that comp unless you give me $20k to spend for czn

[fallen kindle]

You’re right

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth when i had no dice, i got the mutant sample event everytime and failed the dice check everytime

now that i have dice again, i never see the mutant sample event

coincidence or...

[fallen kindle]

chaos gonna be so time consuming

[hasty hearth]

at least u get it

wheres my convert event

??

[mellow bolt]

i m playing early day etheria restart hours farming chaos

[mellow bolt]

you just gotta pick your pathing better

visualize the event and it will become a self fulfilling prophecy

[hasty hearth]

[mellow bolt]

Wow look at this

i started at 22 dice btw

this game refuses to let me have an easy dice check on mutant sample

this is right now

they need to recheck their probability calculator

[fallen kindle]

Scam dice

shit is so rigged

[mellow bolt]

ya for some reason it's always this event that wastes half my daily dice rerolls lol

always around 3-5 rerolls to hit a 11 dice check

the probability lessons in school didnt prepare me for this

[fallen kindle]

get used to it coz that’s how you get pegged by these gacha games

[trail lava]

bruh

[mellow bolt]

classic korean devs

[fallen kindle]

[trail lava]

she's finally done

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt FKKKKKKK

kept duplicating wrong rapid fire

if it asked for the divine epiph one man that wouldve been so fkin good

still think its good deck tho

wish last boss gave me purple weapon or chest but oh well

[hasty hearth]

niceeee

[mellow bolt]

nice

but the question is

when are you ever gonna use luke lol

[hasty hearth]

good question

[trail lava]

Chizuru+Luke looks fun

[hasty hearth]

it is until u realize it's a worse mei lin + vero and worse than tressa but hey if theres any boss in the future that is immune for like first 8 turns

then chizuru stonks going up

[trail lava]

its a nice change of pace since it bores me sometimes to 1 shot everything in 1 turn with Mei Vero lol

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth ive been rerunning this tier 15 stage like 20 times now trying to get the right mika deck lol

everytime the divine epi triggers on something else

and twice back to back the divine epi hit source of water and it goes on to the exhaust card

if only they gave us that epiphany reroll

[hasty hearth]

at least it wasn't the finale card

[mellow bolt]

ya now i just leave whenever i get the wrong epi to save some time lol

[hollow ledge]

thanks beryl

[hollow ledge]

i like building my mei lin around selena.

[hollow ledge]

quite possibly the best divine i got in a while

kyrken never disappoints

[hasty hearth]

eh but that one isnt great since oni hunt is ur only way to increase moon shadow damage

stacking is super easy

[hollow ledge]

i'm spamming moonslash

[lavish lark]

its not a good card to spam tho

[hasty hearth]

yeah whole point of chizuru is for giga moon shadow pretty much

and again stacking is easy with cursed shackle just bring tressa/luke and it's easy to stack

[teal pasture]

Real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgKYIvxbH5A&t=192s

[worldly ingot]

Is crit damage worth aiming for currently? My Chizuru is currently 50/125 but not done her potential yet so will eventually be 60/138.

With so little accessible crit rate is it just better to have higher crit rate

[hollow ledge]

i love black stain bundle

[lavish lark]

so what's the fastest way to make a 0 card deck? I kinda want 2 supports with 0 cards

its just restarting lab 0 for 2 remove divinity and then getting a remove 2 card event kinda soonish no?

[hasty hearth]

u need the 2 cost remove at the beginning event thing, then u need convert + remove events, camps to remove from deck, pray the character ur removing gets least amount of epiphanies, then leave early

[lavish lark]

I'm 8k currency in.. haven't seen a single T14

t14 makes it easier right? cause u can remove 1 more card

[hasty hearth]

dont think so? if you are converting then should be 110 points for 3 removal + convert

[lavish lark]

but with a t14 i can do it without converting

[hasty hearth]

yeah 4 removals is 160 points

[lavish lark]

170

[hasty hearth]

well calculator must be wrong then cuz it says 4 removals is 160

[lavish lark]

its 20-30-50-70

[hasty hearth]

im just basing it off calculator

and it says 160 so

[lavish lark]

I wouldnt need T14 if it was 160

finally got one.. only took 9.6k currency -.-

but wait.. if the character starts with 5 cards.. how the fk do i get to 0.. its only with mutant no?

and infinite luck to get 0 epiphanies

[hasty hearth]

that is indeed correct u need conversion

[lavish lark]

how soon can u get the mutant sample.. I feel like I always see it very late

[hasty hearth]

u can get it really early

[lavish lark]

kk

[mellow bolt]

it's easy

take a character with 0 potential

so u dont get a free epiphany at the beginning of chaos

[hasty hearth]

yeah thats the ideal

[lavish lark]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-he-doesnt-know-pepe-gif-14019260

dont have a single one

[mellow bolt]

what

you lvl'd all your characters?

tf

lol

[lavish lark]

I did upgrade that node on everyone

[mellow bolt]

rip

u dont need a 0 card support

just get a 1 card support with an upgrade card or exhaust card

it's basically a 0 card support

[hasty hearth]

yeah could go for the single epiphany chizuru build

[mellow bolt]

same for meryl

she has a draw 3 exhaust card

imo the best is hugo lol

just get his 1 initiation card

[lavish lark]

I was thinking Orlea with a 0 cost card

cause she gives 6% crit.. and her ult can still be very useful

ggs I guess

got the god run

[hasty hearth]

when can i get a god run of anything

[lavish lark]

i got mutant early into the event that removes a card into the shop

@hasty hearth and the deck is 170 points btw

so only possible in t14 nm

[hasty hearth]

smh site cant even do calculator properly

[mellow bolt]

4 card remove = 170 points

but with mutant it can be 100

[hasty hearth]

does this mean for every new character

we should farm an empty deck before investing

[mellow bolt]

just pick 2 of the most useless characters and build an empty deck on them lol

[lavish lark]

that would definitely make it easier.. but then there will be new seasons

[mellow bolt]

then youll never have to do it again

[hasty hearth]

well

we might want to for units like chizuru

and any future unit that has like 1 card potential

[mellow bolt]

how is that chizuru card deck good i dont get it

ya you get 2 ap value but

you cant get any additional ap right

[hasty hearth]

well thats the point

u put in 2nd team that doesnt use mika

[lavish lark]

its meant so that u dont need any more ap

[hasty hearth]

and acts as pseudo ap battery

[mellow bolt]

but in the future

you dont think theyll add another ap battery

[hasty hearth]

especially since it's in opening hand so u play it and then it's just the other 2 character's decks

[lavish lark]

we do have a leaked one

[mellow bolt]

what team outside of chizuru

doesnt need ap

[hasty hearth]

well it's good for now

since we dont have any other ap battery option

will be replaced when adelheid comes

[lavish lark]

there's a bunch of 0 cost characters

[mellow bolt]

hmm i guess

[lavish lark]

limited by draw and not AP

[mellow bolt]

sounds like

shitty weaker than meta teams

that does need ap

[hasty hearth]

makes haru way more ap efficient

[lavish lark]

anyways.. making a 1 card deck for Chizuru.. with that specific epiph.. seems impossible

u do have 1 more card of margin.. but still

[hasty hearth]

it aint worth the effort

[mellow bolt]

btw how do we trigger that 3rd boss in chaos?

is it the new ??? event in tunnel

[hasty hearth]

yeah

[lavish lark]

imagine getting a 1card deck with this

[hasty hearth]

the ??? event in tunnel and then itll notify u saying something unlocked

after u beat interior boss u fight it

[mellow bolt]

ok ya figured

[hasty hearth]

rewards suck dick tho

[mellow bolt]

i m never gonna jump off this map i have lol

it's a tier 14 map with easy mods

so i can do tier 15s forever

[lavish lark]

what mods u got

i got the discard one

[mellow bolt]

and as long as i keep getting the ??? event and dont kill the last boss

[hasty hearth]

bet its like

[mellow bolt]

ill keep this map

[hasty hearth]

max hp per turn

maybe fury when mobs die

and like

no rest in safe zones

[mellow bolt]

it's a discard + increased elite+boss and -70% credits

not the best

but it's easy to do

[hasty hearth]

i hate - credits when im trying to remove tho

[mellow bolt]

i refuse to take no rest in zones, and the fury or the fortitude ones can get nasty

[mellow bolt]

i never have credit problems ngl since all the events give so much credits

[lavish lark]

we usually get so many credits anyways.. unless u wanna focus all 3 characters

[hasty hearth]

i actually dont mind the no rest as much still annoying but i think it's not the absolute worst

[mellow bolt]

nah i have mental break ptsd

i m gonna avoid that shit as much as possible

[hasty hearth]

still hate

-50% max health and lvl 4+ tyrant

[lavish lark]

ill reroll mine when i get 2 0card decks.. it has discard + no rest.. hate that shit

[hasty hearth]

ur hp bar just fkin dies to almost anything

[mellow bolt]

that's just playing with fire lol

pretty much guaranteed to get 1 shotted

[mellow bolt]

ya discard can get pretty unfortunate sometimes depending on who you're playing with

but for most teams you can recover from losing a good card

but no rest can be iffy especially if youre not running mika

[hasty hearth]

i just dont like rng bullshit so i tend to avoid it

because it only takes

1 pivotal moment

where it discards the thing u need

before u go full tilt

[lavish lark]

Mei feels like the best 0card support

giving 20% amount dmg

and even 60% if u have a 1card deck with the upgrade one

[mellow bolt]

Off this convo I just went in and made one

Since my orlea has no potentials lvld lol

Got a mutant sample and no extra epis lol

[hasty hearth]

u just make it look so easy dont u

im still trying to get gigachad vero build

never coming

[mellow bolt]

easy for useless things ya

but i m 30 runs deep on this same map trying to get a mika deck

[lavish lark]

why didnt u continue? if u have no cards to play can u even get new cards ?

[mellow bolt]

continue to do what lol

[lavish lark]

get more items

[mellow bolt]

i was running a hugo + tressa + a lvl 0 orlea with no items

wouldve died

also i dont know if u can get an epi with 0 cards

[lavish lark]

dying is the same as escaping pretty much

[mellow bolt]

didnt wanna risk it

[mellow bolt]

if you can get the respose divine epi with +1 draw, so you get 3 draws per repose

and get like a 14 card draw deck on her without basics

[hasty hearth]

im trying to get -1 ap on the draw 2 -1 cost to one of the cards or +1 ap 0 cost

[mellow bolt]

and get a mei lin with 4x +ap divine on unity

you can go through the entire deck every turn

[hasty hearth]

with divine on her other shit to be 0 cost as well

[mellow bolt]

my mei lin + vero + hugo team goes through the entire deck on every turn after the first

and stacks to 19 on dragon spire lol

[hasty hearth]

never using mei lin

even tho shes the closest unit i have to being max duped

granted her dupes are really fkin bad

[mellow bolt]

she's too op with a good deck

i cant wait to see what they do about these spam teams

[stuck idol]

is this good enough? i just srarted getting cassius save. in case with 3 joker what agents or combo mostly effective for 3 search?

[hasty hearth]

waiting on boss immune until turn 6 or something

chizuru stonks

[mellow bolt]

like it's impossible to powercreep mei lin team and tressa team on spam

[hasty hearth]

[hasty hearth]

only way to creep is same kit, but higher ceiling

[mellow bolt]

lmao

[hasty hearth]

good with chizuru stacking tsukiyomi

[mellow bolt]

just higher multipliers

since the current teams dont even have ceilings

their worst enemy is card overflow

[hasty hearth]

u want 2 different cassius builds

the 1 that u have which is joker copies

[stuck idol]

basically keep tutoring for tsukiyomi and stack max hit?

[hasty hearth]

and a 2nd one with dice trick (upgrade epiph) that gives u random quest card on quest completion

[hasty hearth]

pretty much yeah

[stuck idol]

the gears are pretty bad though ☠️

but is it ok hahaa

[hasty hearth]

the dice trick one is bis teammate for tressa

cuz u can stack so much extra agony

[stuck idol]

i guess i needa start farming my tsukiyomi deck ig

ooh

[mellow bolt]

oh i m gonna make a 0 card deck on lucas, his ego skill is good

draw 3

[hasty hearth]

if u get the 3 0 quest or 3 different combatent cards played

u just stack so much damage with tressa

triple 1 also isnt bad but the other 2 i mentioned are more ideal

[stuck idol]

the 3 joker tsukiyomi comp is is probably like chizuru-vero(?)-cass i guesd

or vero swap to trissa?

[hasty hearth]

if ur fighting a singular boss

then with ideal chizuru deck yeah it would be vero + cass

but if its like the current galactic rift content then cassius is better with tressa

[stuck idol]

i see. thanks for the help lol

[hasty hearth]

just watch out for handsize issues with dice trick + tressa

ull run into it a lot, but even then it's still op as fk

[stuck idol]

is 3 repose with trash better than 2 with cleaner deck?

[hasty hearth]

id say both are.... less than ideal to put it nicely

[stuck idol]

[hasty hearth]

u want something like this

[stuck idol]

oof

was the problem with my 3 repose are the junk rapid fires?

[lavish lark]

is this good enough? its a "1" card deck that heals for free every turn too

[hasty hearth]

no u want the 0 cost repose

divine on that one is a bonus

but absolute bare minimum is 0 cost draw 2

[stuck idol]

ahh right wtf lol

no point saving that deck ig

[lavish lark]

so.. do we know yet which cards shuffle and which don't ?

[stuck idol]

btw are saves permanent? or once new season is out we gotta refarm

[hasty hearth]

seems fine but no epiph on the upgrade card feelsbad

[lavish lark]

we will probably have to farm decks for the next season

[lavish lark]

I would rather not have it in the deck.. its the closest thing

[hasty hearth]

nothing confirmed, but what i assume is everything is "permanent" up until season

so like u know how anything u farm currently has a sticker

next season probably have a different sticker

[stuck idol]

[hasty hearth]

so would need to refarm probably

[lavish lark]

most likely.. we wont be able to use this season decks for the next season content

that's the whole point

[stuck idol]

maybe without sticker decks can be keeped? XD

[hasty hearth]

so it's like refarm every 3 months~

well u can use it for farming simulations

[lavish lark]

u will keep sticker decks.. u just wont be able to use them for next season content

[hasty hearth]

but like the seasonal content like the bosses + galactic rift

that will require refarming

[stuck idol]

oooh

thats cool

[mellow bolt]

i hope they powercreep the shit out of old characters for new seasons with new mechanics

so i dont have to farm for a deck i alrdy have

[hasty hearth]

i just want mei lin to be dead

and tressa

tressa is easy solution tho... agony limit or immunity and she gone

[mellow bolt]

they can just put a buff on enemies where every hit they take in a turn makes them tankier

solves all spam builds

[hasty hearth]

well

[mellow bolt]

and makes chizuru good

since her big hit is just the first hit

[hasty hearth]

i think what they did with the 7 hit count thing for bosses was good

[mellow bolt]

also makes haru useful too

since she's also front loaded

[hasty hearth]

i mean sort of easy to add something to make haru relevent

like

need to do minimum 2k+ in a hit in order to do damage

the 2k can be replaced by any number really but u get the idea

[mellow bolt]

ye

i guess they can also just put limiters on # of cards played per turn

a lot of ways for them to nerf spam builds

[lavish lark]

also E6 .. meaning everyone of those bullets is 0cost

[solemn yacht]

i think the best solution will be something like judas which can retaliate after a certain amount of moves. (wander of the void can be solved by immunity).

That being said tressa triggers off of heals, so dunno how useful attacks every couple of turns are lol

alternatively just ban the problemic tressa ephiphany and dice trick ephiphany from season 2, and make it only a non-seasonal ephiphany

though bans aren't a long term solution, since i bet you can't ban 5 stars ephiphanies without huge backlash if they make a mistake in the future

[mellow bolt]

actually now that you mention it

the devs did say before that epiphanies would be different each season

sounds like a lot of work for them, but if that's true, that would be pretty cool

[hasty hearth]

did they?

[solemn yacht]

oh wow i didn't realize rift rewards are every week. thats a ton of resources

[still sedge]

yeah same

gonna start doing runs now. been slacking with wwm

[hollow ledge]

yummy

[hasty hearth]

calling it flat attack all rolls

[hollow ledge]

nope

i did get a flat attack roll

i got one flat attack, one % attack and 2 cdmg

[hasty hearth]

always dodges crit chance

[hollow ledge]

the end result

it's better than what my selena had

[drifting flame]

[unkempt arrow]

Hate when this happens

On a good piece u roll bad and low roll

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah

[hollow ledge]

lol some fuckass copying

[hollow ledge]

i copied oni hunt pre-epiphany
in both epiphanies i failed to get oni hunt 1

[trail lava]

this game thinks its funny

[lavish lark]

if u get 3 copies of it.. u could technically remove Bound at dusk

[trail lava]

does removing it mess up any of her stuff?

[lavish lark]

why would it

[trail lava]

idk which is why im asking

[hollow ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[hollow ledge]

mei lin is quirky with the divines today

[trail lava]

there we go

[hasty hearth]

well wolf man was easy as fuq but i guess that was expected

[plain breach]

Similar 😀

[stuck idol]

is there any way to check your save data limit during a run?

[solemn yacht]

ya, just click the top left or something tells you how much you are using and the limit

[hollow ledge]

the equipment sucks

[trail lava]

sucks i didn't get a 3rd Unity

[vapid rose]

How did u get 3 copies ?

[hollow ledge]

2 boss + rare event

[hasty hearth]

honestly wish they let us use event currency to reroll codex planets

[mellow bolt]

apparently theyre looking over "chaos fatigue"

and we're gonna get some notes on the 20th

just add in a an epi reroll plz

i m legit on my 50th run on this t15 map trying to get a mika deck

[hasty hearth]

still trying to get vero deck

still have not gotten a single good epiphany on repose

that includes just the natural 0 cost like jesus christ

[unkempt arrow]

Facts it’s honestly hella annoying

Just add an Epi reroll

[hasty hearth]

yeah make it cost like 5 sand of time and can only do it once per epiph

like christ

hell i wouldnt even mind if it costed 10

[unkempt arrow]

I also feel divines need a bit more wiggle room as well

Should at least be able to choose what epi skill gets the divine blessing

[hasty hearth]

nah think that would be too op...

[unkempt arrow]

Maybe not the exact divine but at least what skill gets it

[hasty hearth]

especially since the divine epiph is different based on which card it selects and depends on the divine as well

honestly just update codex planets to be similar to seasonal where we can reroll

shadow planet is so much easier to farm epiphs

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah I’m just coping a bit that’s all suffering from Rin ptsd

[hasty hearth]

and ill take the no convert trade off at this point im going insane at not getting the epiph

[unkempt arrow]

Literally

I’ve been running seasonal for the convert/ removal but

With this new update is lowkey got a bit worse

[hasty hearth]

forget divine epiph on repose i havent seen the 0 cost option a single time so far holy moly

[unkempt arrow]

Cuz that HA007 event is now a guaranteed one too

It should’ve only been guaranteed if u choose the bonus fight at the end

[hasty hearth]

ha007? oh u mean the new shit event?

[unkempt arrow]

Yup

It’s so stupid

[hasty hearth]

its so fkin bad

[unkempt arrow]

And BOTH options SUCK ASS

Don’t help at all

[hasty hearth]

yup

[unkempt arrow]

2 ambush actually makes ur run worse

[unkempt arrow]

This too

Sometimes I literally go 10+full runs

[mellow bolt]

bro these event chaos like the time you actually get epi on the right card

[unkempt arrow]

No 0 cost

[mellow bolt]

then you go through interior and dont get the copy event

[unkempt arrow]

^^^^^

[mellow bolt]

like how rare is this copy event in the event chaos now?

[hasty hearth]

roadmap december 20th tho

[mellow bolt]

since they added that new event shit in interior

[hasty hearth]

honestly imma just wait at this point dont even need vero deck tbh...

[mellow bolt]

yeh im not doing anymore chaos until they do the update

[unkempt arrow]

U have to get through the hyper regen and the ha 007 event b4 u can chance it now

[hasty hearth]

already cleared everything and we gotta refarm after serenial update is over which is like what 4 weeks ish?

[unkempt arrow]

It used to be just hyper regen

But if your interior only has like 5 ? Marks it’s slim to none now

[hasty hearth]

hyper regen actually isnt bad... if ur farming for something like mika or other support

cuz u can get perma buff on it

so not the worst

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah I’ve found uses for it for farming

Worthless other wise tho imo

[mellow bolt]

ya those new events in interior were added for what lol

like they have 0 benefit

[hasty hearth]

to make heart of the ore vein less common

[unkempt arrow]

[mellow bolt]

[hasty hearth]

well lets see what roadmap shows on 20th

since its roadmap that means itll be like quite a bit of future stuff

serenial i would imagine probably instinct hunter is my guess

why would they release this shit new instinct set otherwise

[mellow bolt]

another dps...

[unkempt arrow]

I’m hoping based on the leaks

She’s an order support

[mellow bolt]

3 mid limited units in a row lol and all dps

[unkempt arrow]

The big hand one

[hasty hearth]

there was leaks of serenial?

[mellow bolt]

this 4th one better be something decent

[unkempt arrow]

Not that I seen

Just big hands

[hasty hearth]

oh u mean euphina

[unkempt arrow]

SERI NEEDS TO BE A SUPPORT

Pls…

[hasty hearth]

my mind is screaming instinct hunter

[unkempt arrow]

After playing Yuki nonstop for like 2 weeks ngl

I’d rank her above Chizuru

Which is sad

[hasty hearth]

cuz of the 2nd set in that new simulation for memory fragment

like who the fk would use that

not khalipe

[unkempt arrow]

Ahh maybe

[hasty hearth]

khalipe is pretty decent at breaking but not against bosses really

[unkempt arrow]

Speaking of khal

Has anyone made a build with her at 700atk 300 def and above 30% crit?

[hasty hearth]

hell no

[unkempt arrow]

Mine is 25% not on crit chance

[hasty hearth]

khalipe is a chaos dog walker at her best

[unkempt arrow]

Felt impossible with crit chance

[hasty hearth]

does anyone ever use her for any like boss content

pretty sure the answer is no

[unkempt arrow]

Ngl

Hell nah not anymore