CZN gooner gang godz only

[unkempt arrow]

What’s the bug?

[mellow bolt]

I don’t fully understand it myself but one of her cards is applying willow from all combatants instead of just herself

So it’ll be a huge nerf (bug fix)

[unkempt arrow]

F

I already thought the dmg was so so

If they nerf that lol

[mellow bolt]

Yeh I guess we’ll have to wait and see the impact

Her playstyle is pretty fun though ngl

But her numbers are so so

[hasty hearth]

would have to wait for actual builds no?

i think the multi hit 0 cost (well 9 cost originally) forbidden card might work with her really well

[mellow bolt]

How do you stack hits like that? I don’t get how that gimmick works

[hasty hearth]

well if u have full team of the 0 cost 4 hit

it would be pretty easy

but i mean u saw like ur luke video

before he uses his giga card

[mellow bolt]

But how does hits get added to that card

[hasty hearth]

he stacks like 31 hits

[mellow bolt]

Cause I keep getting 5 stacks of willow, but that card remains at +2 hits

[hasty hearth]

tsukiyomi epiph has +2 hit to next shadow of moon card

karmic flame also has one where cursed shackles add's +1 hit

[mellow bolt]

Hmm

But how did they get it to +25

Is there some infinite scaling technique

[hasty hearth]

only thing i can think of

is wombo comboing with luke or tressa to get a bajillion willowisp stacks

but that just keeps creating shadow of the moon cards right?

another thing i think is

if we farm swamp of judgement

for spirit kefox monster card

to dupe something like karmic or tsukiyomi

which would add lot of hits to shadow of moon

[mellow bolt]

Ok so willow of wisp stacks only gives her that card at 5 stacks

It doesn’t do anything else right?

[hasty hearth]

pretty sure yeah

[mellow bolt]

Hmm

Wait I’m still confused at how they got their shadow of the moon card to +25 hits then

What’s the trick

[hasty hearth]

the thing is

what does willowisp do if u have shadow of the moon+

does it just start over? Create shadow of moon base?

or does it continue upgrading shadow of the moon+

also i really hate inhibit

what a stupid fkin debuff

[mellow bolt]

Good question, I haven’t managed to get it past bind 5

If every 5 stacks of willow gives an extra hit past this point, then this character can be decent

Btw them adding faint memory numbers is such a godsend lol

[hasty hearth]

each 5 stack seems to increase bind

5 bind is max

[mellow bolt]

Ya that’s what it seems like so far

I don’t know how people getting it to so many hits

[hasty hearth]

its definitenly tsukiyomi

[mellow bolt]

So like do we use shadow of the moon card

Or hold on to it

[hasty hearth]

epiph +2 hits to next shadow of moon

ur call but prob hold until at least +

[mellow bolt]

But that’s only 2 hits

Does it keep going up or stay at +2

[hasty hearth]

u mean 3 hits?

[mellow bolt]

I mean the additional +2

[hasty hearth]

oh

i would imagine it stacks

[mellow bolt]

Like does it only add 2 or does it add even beyond that

[worthy raft]

+2 from tsuki is infinitely stackable

[mellow bolt]

Hmm

Oh hmm

[hasty hearth]

yeah so if u get 4 copies of tsuki

[mellow bolt]

Ok maybe this character has some potential then

[hasty hearth]

it can add +8 hits

[mellow bolt]

Any unit with an infinite scaling mechanic can be made broken somehow

But

[meager junco]

its bugged atm

[mellow bolt]

Tsuki is broken right now lol

[meager junco]

theres some bug where her buffs apply to everyone not just her

[mellow bolt]

After the fix it’s gonna be mid af

[meager junco]

maybe

[mellow bolt]

Ya right now with tsuki, anyone’s attack applies stacks

[meager junco]

yes

[mellow bolt]

Not just her own

[meager junco]

time to abuse and clear content xD

while it lasts

[hasty hearth]

eh

[mellow bolt]

Ya lol

[hasty hearth]

dont think it will really hurt her THAT much

especially since epiph to go for is the +2 hits onto next shadow of moon imo

[mellow bolt]

It definitely will

[meager junco]

wish we had more options to trigger retain

Beryl would skyrocket

[hasty hearth]

not really because of the epiph to go for

[mellow bolt]

Imagine if you had a luke on the team or Tressa with 4 dagger on heal

You’re getting infinite stacks

[meager junco]

i have 4 units that arent uncapped to lvl 60 atm
all others are 50 but uncapped, im just missing EXP lol

fml

guess i know what im farming for the next 2 weeks

[mellow bolt]

Without that tsuki bug, only chizuru can take advantage of tsuki

So the stack gain will be way worse

[meager junco]

idk why the new released units arent matching most or some base line release units power level wise

kinda weird

[mellow bolt]

They should just leave this tsuki bug in…

It makes her on par with units like Renoa, Hugo etc lol

Why would they make her worse

[meager junco]

[mellow bolt]

And at the end of the day her kit still relies on spam

Basically only pull her if you are bored and want to try someone new

Otherwise stick to the OG teams

[hasty hearth]

yeah

she is fun tho

@mellow bolt multiple shadow of the moon card combines them acts as max willowisp to upgrade shadow of the moon

[dawn flare]

Is Mika AP from healing bugged?

[hasty hearth]

what do u mean

[dawn flare]

Im using this card

and not getting the 1 AP

[hasty hearth]

are u using with chizuru....

[dawn flare]

yea

[hasty hearth]

....

read inhibit....

u can't get AP besides ravage and starting ap

[dawn flare]

inhibit? whats this

[hasty hearth]

bruh

chizuru upgrade card

[dawn flare]

this sucks

[hasty hearth]

sucks with mika yeah

congrats on reading 👏

[dawn flare]

im trying her for the first time, which units are you pairing her with, besides tressa?

[hasty hearth]

rei would work well

any other support really would work well

prob cassius or rei

@mellow bolt if u maxed chizuru her last ego gives shadow of moon+ +1 hit count

[mellow bolt]

lol yeh I saw

Her egos are decent

But she’s mid lol

Like she’s good right now with the bug

I guess even without the bug she still has infinite scaling with teammates using shackles… but at that point why not just use Mei Lin lol

Way easier and way more dmg

[mighty thistle]

[mellow bolt]

Oh shit we get a free dupe

Saving that until when an op unit comes out lol

[hasty hearth]

yup same

[hollow ledge]

"i'll use it on luke"

[unkempt arrow]

Free dupe + Nyx best parts of the patch

[hasty hearth]

nah def part we can farm codex planets

[unkempt arrow]

And still make seasonal decks?

I don’t pay attention to patches

I just play

[lavish lark]

Nyx ?

[hasty hearth]

yeah all the non seasonal chaos are seasonal decks now

[unkempt arrow]

Dang finally

[mellow bolt]

i m looking at all these people on the leaderboard for that new event

ofc they got quad unity with move on mei lin lol

i farmed for 3 weeks, cant even get a triple

[meager junco]

rng at its finest

[mellow bolt]

truly the ultimate f2p game

people can hard whale and will be 10x weaker than some f2p who got lucky

[lavish lark]

where are the rankings

[mellow bolt]

it's on the boss page, there's like a trophy button

[unkempt arrow]

Deadass

How am I supposed to compete with someone who got 4 move

With AP as the divine

I don’t even know how those top 20 Yuki ppl cycled so hard on team 2

I think my Cassius and Mika deck just sucks ass probably

[mellow bolt]

after seeing all these leaderboards with cassius and tressa

maybe i should build my cassius too lol

[unkempt arrow]

He’s cracked

[hasty hearth]

Surprised u don’t he’s really good

[mellow bolt]

just never found a need before lol

i guess back to refreshing stamina to build luke and cassius lol

wtf is this lol

[hasty hearth]

Da fuq

[mellow bolt]

how even

i dont understand this

[hasty hearth]

I guess cycle enough to spam tsukiyomi

[mellow bolt]

and that shit is in a chaos too

[hasty hearth]

Cuz it’s until the card is played

[lavish lark]

51 hits? wtf

[hasty hearth]

So u can keep stacking until used

[mellow bolt]

is that boss only a chaos boss?

[hasty hearth]

Doubt it

[mellow bolt]

if you can do this inside a chaos...then that's kind of insane

[hasty hearth]

That’s definitely like 24 tsukiyomi used

[charred citrus]

Beryl vibe. Keepin juicing 1 card

[mellow bolt]

but i feel like this is kind of bait

cause after they fix the tuski bug

itll take like 30 turns to get here

[charred citrus]

We can’t see bc her hair covers the deck but with enough cycle you can get solid dmg out of it

[charred citrus]

What’s bugged?

[mellow bolt]

not sure if they fixed it yet but tsuki is letting other combatants build stacks as well

not just chizuru herself

[charred citrus]

Rly? How? I thought they gaining from inhibit, ego, tsuki epi

[hasty hearth]

Yeah it’ll take a while to get there

U could speed it up with Cassius

Since he can directly draw a specific card whether it’s in draw or discard pile

But her damage ceiling is definitely there

Like I said literally a more balanced Mei Lin

[meager junco]

yes and no

keep in mind u wont be able to generate AP

so ur cards gotta be 0 cost, the drawing ones 😄

[hasty hearth]

Tsukiyomi is 0 cost so no issue there

But she literally is a worse Mei Lin

Take multiple turns to stack up hits on moon shadow

Instead of 1 turn

Chizuru is also really fkin bad in anything aoe not only cuz she doesn’t have aoe card but because cursed shackle only applies to 1 unit unless u get the epiphany for it to move on death but that epiphany is pretty awful

[mellow bolt]

tbh if a character takes that many turns to stack up a card

[charred citrus]

She aight she got beryl vibe without the draw

[mellow bolt]

might as well just use beryl or orlea lol

same shit

[charred citrus]

More gymnastics

[hasty hearth]

I mean

If u have a Cassius built with 3 copies of joker

[charred citrus]

Yea Werd

[hasty hearth]

And a chizuru with 3 tsuki

1 run through of deck would get a moon shadow with 15 hits

Which is good but again not like Mei Lin tier

[charred citrus]

At this point I don’t think anything will be. She just has the simplest op combo

[hasty hearth]

Pretty much yeah

[charred citrus]

Dig her design tho. At least they getting creative

[hasty hearth]

I don’t care tho chizuru is fun

Fk Mei Lin

[charred citrus]

Played her to death already

[hasty hearth]

Except inhibit

Cringe as fk

[lavish lark]

I though u were skipping her

🧢

[charred citrus]

I mean I like that it buffs her card

[hasty hearth]

I read epiphanies

And then pulled

[charred citrus]

But it should give more for such a harsh penalty

[charred citrus]

Just my 2 cents anyways. She works well as subdps

[wary cypress]

What is this become void thingy?

Thats new

[hasty hearth]

Well it frees up Mika slot I guess so chizuru got that going for her

That’s the fight the boss thing I think after u beat interior

[charred citrus]

It’s technically a debuff on you that gives miniboss debuffs to put on you

[hasty hearth]

They mentioned it

[wary cypress]

So not worth over nihil epi?

[hasty hearth]

No idea never got it so don’t know what the reward is

[charred citrus]

I think it takes 5 to spawn the miniboss

Haven’t fought him yet. Read on Reddit you stack 5 and you’ll get the fight for the achievement

[wary cypress]

[charred citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/s/lXm3jWy8f5

I aimed for it a few times but like in your case sometimes you got a good deck run cookin so fk it

[acoustic iron]

well aslong as youre using bind 3 consistently the healing there paired with rei is pretty good

[charred citrus]

Running that exact team on 8s and 9s only tho.

[hasty hearth]

Idk if I’d call it “pretty good”

I fought summoner fker

Holy

Race against the clock

[charred citrus]

Rei sustain is not enough for higher diff

[hasty hearth]

Living with like 50 hp

[charred citrus]

Team is all gas and attrition with rests lol

[hasty hearth]

Classic

Them or us

Fight to the death

[charred citrus]

I gotta build an order set

I got him on some welfare shii rn

Laziness might win. Might just leave him on cdam

[meager junco]

[meager junco]

didnt check scores yet but saw this 😄
(not mine btw)

[nocturne kelp]

is chizuru good?

[charred citrus]

@meager junco damn rin beryl going hard

Crunch bars and repose spam sheesh

[charred citrus]

Depends what you mean by good.

[nocturne kelp]

on par with the other dps?

at e0?

[charred citrus]

If you compare her kit to others it’s less broken but has a beryl vibe without the draw to me

[charred citrus]

She’s more sub dps in my eyes.

Only done a few runs tho. I’m using e0 with e2 luke e6 rei

[nocturne kelp]

yeah

i think im just a tressa main now

fok the others

So tressa hugo mika is bis for her?

[mellow bolt]

how is that?

i m gonna try that soon once i finish getting my luke into a decent place

[charred citrus]

🤔 first two runs I got the 50% crit epi so it felt retarded good. 100% crit chance is goated with 200 cdam

[charred citrus]

I’m just doing easy farm since I have no decks for him. So far enjoying it

[thick relic]

There is a small update if you Restart the game

[mellow bolt]

do you know which epiphanies i should be going for?

playing both chizuru and luke completely new blind lol

[charred citrus]

Main copy target rapid fire: 50%crit chance w. Retrieve epi for 4 bullets or the x3 for 3 bullets

Sieze the opp: I like the +70% bullet dmg that turn or the flat +30% bullet perm buff

Dance of the demon is like Mei: you want the +hit for each attack card used this turn

Chizuru still testing stuff out. Looking for that +2 hit tsuki for multiple copies

[mellow bolt]

ty ty

[charred citrus]

I need 3 more order pieces with cdam crit flat atk subs

I guess I’m gonna buy more stam eff

I wish I didn’t get baited by striker chizuru prep

I kinda wanna bench her for cass but I’ll wait for the new toy energy to wear off

[mellow bolt]

yeh

i think in terms of power, itll just be the usual standard banner teams for awhile lol

any new unit is just for fun lol

oh

they fixed willow of wisp alrdy lol

other units dont trigger it anymore

[charred citrus]

Ahhh that lil patch

[mellow bolt]

Which one?

[lavish lark]

middle no?

[mellow bolt]

which one let's her infinite stack +hits?

[lavish lark]

thats middle

[mellow bolt]

wait lmao

so people just keep shuffling this card?

[lavish lark]

or multiple copies I guess

[mellow bolt]

50 turn gaming

alright ill try to see if i can copy that middle one

[mellow bolt]

ok wth

luke is actually pretty damn good

[hasty hearth]

Reading sir?

[lavish lark]

maybe its just me.. but shadow of the moon feels week af

takes too much effort to do mediocre dmg

[hasty hearth]

Essentially correct

As I said

Mei Lin with extra steps

[lavish lark]

not to mention the base card.. 50x2 is literally worse than a basic card

[mellow bolt]

This dance of the demon card can pair pretty damn well with a Tressa+Mika for a huge nuke

[lavish lark]

Orlea is just better for proccing Tressa's shadow reload

u get a few growing accel with 0 cost.. and it's insane

[mellow bolt]

In the same turn though?

[lavish lark]

yeah

[mellow bolt]

I can get like 40 daggers in 1 turn

Can orlea do that

Maybe more like 50

[lavish lark]

dont see how.. since mika doesn't draw.. but ok

[mellow bolt]

huh

legend epiphanies lol

[lavish lark]

let me see that mika

that pulls 50 daggers per turn

[hasty hearth]

dude wtf why dont i ever see the additional hit on tsukiyomi

[lavish lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064251784324988968/1230656756376670208/classique.gif

[mellow bolt]

With a 4 shadow reload Tressa

[charred citrus]

That portrait of fury card is nice on luke

[lavish lark]

so u have 2 draw cards.. and u manage to do 12 healing cards in 1 turn

[mellow bolt]

also my hugo has a lot of draw

[lavish lark]

[mellow bolt]

3 draw cards

https://tenor.com/view/mouxy-cotorep-aveugle-debile-esquiver-gif-20546128

3 draw cards + hugo draws too

[lavish lark]

so its not just mika

but yeah.. 4 shadow reloads is overkill for Orlea

[mellow bolt]

how much healing can orlea do alone

individual heal cards

[lavish lark]

with 4 overload.. u could get 12 shadow daggers with 1 card

but that's why I said it's overkill

growth accel procs 3 heals for 0 cost

and sturdie will give u daggers for the next turn too

and then u have the 2 cost heal that can also proc 2+ heals

[static crescent]

Been a while

Sleep

[charred citrus]

Someone sent me this

I like her more

Less booba tho

[static crescent]

Lol

[mellow bolt]

ngl i dont know what any of this means

[static crescent]

Hoyo

[mellow bolt]

i dont play orlea

but it kind of sounds like it's similar at the end of the day lol

[charred citrus]

Orlea has a card that procs retain fx on her pets

[lavish lark]

just saying with no draw involved, orlea is probably a little better for shadow dagger gen

[charred citrus]

So u use that on the healing pet etc

[lavish lark]

I use both anyways.. with 3 shadow reload

also don't have hugo.. so there's that

[charred citrus]

Yea you Tressa main

[mellow bolt]

oh

ya i was gonna ask

how do you maintain hugo stacks

[lavish lark]

I blame Judas.. for maining Tressa

[charred citrus]

I don’t blame ya. Instead of more 5*s you got more orleas lol

Rng forced

[mellow bolt]

i should build orlea one day

[lavish lark]

my Orlea is E2

[mellow bolt]

i got her e6 lol

[lavish lark]

her E6 is disgustingly good

and she gives ur team 6% crit

[charred citrus]

With orl you gotta sequence more I bet to avoid full hand ✋

[lavish lark]

helps that the pets are 0 cost

Orlea sucks on chaos tho.. cause she depends so much on her epiphs

[mellow bolt]

btw @charred citrus i did that run with luke+chizuru and it was so smooth

got chizuru stacking 10+ hits and luke stacking 10+ hits lol

everything was just melting

[charred citrus]

Luke can carry hard yea

I don’t have Janet yet. Need 30 more ribbons

[mellow bolt]

ya those bullets just keep on coming lol

[charred citrus]

Also even if you don’t get the good dance epi

[mellow bolt]

ya i got 55% base crit + the crit from his partner + the weapon that gives 10% crit on 0 cost cards lol

[charred citrus]

He just gens so many bullets

[mellow bolt]

essentially 70% crit

and that 1 cards that gives +50% crit and generates 2 bullets on crit

[charred citrus]

Niiiice. Ya that card has two better versions

One that makes 4 and another that does 3 on crit

[mellow bolt]

that dance epi that generates hit based on attack cards is insane tbh

it's even more flexible than mei lin's card

cause it works with any attack spammer

[charred citrus]

But yo can’t rly go wrong bc his mechanic enabling cards have consistent epi versions

Like all generate at least 2

[charred citrus]

Ya that’s the big hit every vid is ending with

Right now I’m using the bot ego into dance and works well enough with the extra crit chance

[mellow bolt]

oh ya that's huge

ngl a lot of the 4* partner active ego skill is way better than 5*

the 5* just has better passives

[charred citrus]

Yea extra bullet is fked up haha

Robot isn’t bad tho. He has two multi’s

Long as I have enough morale it’s solid

Perma .18 and 1 turn .2 after a crit

[hasty hearth]

ive done like 6 chizuru runs

still havent seen additional hit

like neither of them not the 1 or the 2 wtf

[charred citrus]

You’re having some @lavish lark ballista luck

[lavish lark]

true

my first 6 season chaos runs with Vero.. i didn't get a single epiphany on her ballista

[charred citrus]

Cursed gaming

[mellow bolt]

welcome to my mei lin runs

i get 1 move card every 7 runs and in that run i get the wrong epi for rising dragon

[dawn flare]

is this new?

after killing 2nd boss

Called Core of Discord

[charred citrus]

That’s the secret boss we were talking about earlier

Go smash 👍

[dawn flare]

WOW

fucker almost killed me, had like 50 hp left

[dawn flare]

not worthy imo, rewards from boss were bad, nothing special

[charred citrus]

You get achievement

[dawn flare]

Are you guys enjoying the new unit?

I liked this Oni Hunt with the create 2x Moonslashes and the weapon that increases that dmg

[dawn flare]

OH yea, but only need to do 1 time no?

[charred citrus]

Yea pretty much

They should give a copy selector for that thing

[dawn flare]

Yea, or a new equip. I had the option to get that unique item that lets you redraw 3 cards at the start of the turn

[charred citrus]

Yea that’s one of the good ones

[hasty hearth]

3 copies

couldve been 4

[charred citrus]

Ayyyy

[unkempt arrow]

Does 2nd method boost anything on Tressa?

If not ima switch for vuln dagger

Bet

[charred citrus]

Method for Hugo Vero etc

[unkempt arrow]

Gotcha

Ngl Chizuru doesn’t feeel OP but

I think she could unironically be a 3rd on Mei Lin team

As a support dmg hybrid

[charred citrus]

Yea she pretty balanced

Ambitious kit in that they went creative route with it

[lavish lark]

does not

[charred citrus]

Inhibit has that double edged sword thing preventing you from going nutso

[unkempt arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thnx-pengu-thank-you-thanks-penguin-gif-1134659475848564524

[charred citrus]

lol where’s mine

[unkempt arrow]

I think u can get by not playing that immediately

[charred citrus]

Yea you can play around it

[unkempt arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thnx-pengu-thank-you-thanks-penguin-gif-1134659475848564524

[charred citrus]

lols

[unkempt arrow]

If u have the right Mei Lin

Can x2 bag the Chizuru

And go nuts

Then use Chizuru as a finisher

[charred citrus]

Ya there’s some stuff you can do with cube as well

Since she also exhausts cards

[unkempt arrow]

Facts

Can use the scroll on her

So she even gives shield potential

Pair that with Tressa too on scroll

Team is cracked

Ima pull her

She seems interesting enough

[lavish lark]

scroll on tressa is disgusting.. i dont know about chizuru tho.. she doesn't attack that often

[charred citrus]

Triple dps setups all viable for sims anyway

[unkempt arrow]

She has exhaust that are easy to get rid of tho

Shield is shield

[charred citrus]

If you go the moon slash route yea

She needs like +50% buff for it make multi stronger

Two hits is coo too

[unkempt arrow]

True

[charred citrus]

If you see that basic card fate +1 hit

[unkempt arrow]

But the only issue

[charred citrus]

Try moonslash build

I’ve been waiting for it but no luck

[unkempt arrow]

Is she more valuable than Cassius

I’d say no but

I haven’t played her at all

Cuz Tressa Cassius Mika

Is the best Tressa comp

[charred citrus]

Nah she’s more subdps role without the utility

[unkempt arrow]

Unless u rocking the best Hugo ever

[charred citrus]

You can make it work tho with neutrals but cass is just straight gas when you have egos

[unkempt arrow]

True

Cass can even be hybrid dps

If ur cycle on team is good enough

And u have triple 0 card

[charred citrus]

Luke and cass

Triple 0 dream team

[unkempt arrow]

Real

Ima put proteins on Cass and Mika and this deck is disgusting

Even got the right vital

And morale on the bag

[charred citrus]

Looks 🔥

You got the draw 3 forbidden with 8 cards in hand

[unkempt arrow]

And by overloading with shadow dagger

Can always get the full effect

Gotta aim for hunger on Mika and Cass

[lavish lark]

I wonder if that card works for Chizuru

[unkempt arrow]

Or at least one of them

[lavish lark]

since she adds an attack hit on the next card

[unkempt arrow]

That card and hunger

Works on literally everyone tbh

Hunger especially

Cuz u don’t have to play it

[charred citrus]

That card just owns for Tressa and luke teams

Having plethora of 0 cost to manipulate deck size is perf for it

Those kinda interactions make me enjoy the game

[hasty hearth]

just when u thought

"good job devs making boss not take damage from above 7 multi hit"

but then u realize they literally only did it for phase 2 and not phase 1

[charred citrus]

They big brained it imo

This way the Mei enjoyers won’t riot. And the ppl like us see that they did ‘something’.

[hasty hearth]

cept it didnt do anything

[charred citrus]

We should’ve expected this

They been bending over backward on stuff so it’s a wet noodle approach

[solemn yacht]

phase 1 has a hit limit

[hasty hearth]

oh does it?

[solemn yacht]

yeah my rising dragon kick ended up doing like 1 damage after a while

[hasty hearth]

wait

is hit limit only on hell

[solemn yacht]

hmm lol, maybe people aren't playing on hell

[hasty hearth]

because

[solemn yacht]

maybe i should try that too lol

[hasty hearth]

there is no way u use mei lin if hit cap exists

especially phase 1

[solemn yacht]

i mean even 7 hit rds combo is still really strong and pumps out a shitton of damage

[hasty hearth]

uhh

no

for phase 1????

u have 3 turns before u literally auto lose

if u dont kill 8 of the small guys

[solemn yacht]

but keep in mind, non mei lins don't do that much less damage than mei lins, so the delta isn't very different.

[hasty hearth]

ive been doing hell

like legit way

and there is no way u bring mei lin phase 1 with hit cap

literally impossible

because u have to do the mechanic

[solemn yacht]

veronica just kills the small dudes

or you use your basic attacks on them

[hasty hearth]

oh with aoe

aoe epiph thats true

guess my tressa really needs agony damage on the 2 cost

[unkempt arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-warmup-ultra-instinct-goku-ultra-instinct-goku-ssj-gif-14730092257884162955

It’s crazy cuz this went really well with my trash ass Mika

That’s my exhaust build for Haru burst

If I get an actual Mika build man

[trail lava]

bruh my 500k

[charred citrus]

Giant alien turd

💩

[hasty hearth]

oof

[hallow trout]

ooh the ranking stuff is out i forgot lol

how sweaty are ppl being lol

[unkempt arrow]

I wonder if the Mei Lin players are doing hard and not hell mode

[hasty hearth]

rank 214 good enough for me

[hasty hearth]

it's a total meme

just get 500k points for all the rewards and dip

[hallow trout]

sounds about right

if top rank got like some cool cosmetic i'd try a bit but nah

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah it doesn’t matter

Hitting 500k is light work ull be fine

My highest is like uh 660k with an exhaust source Mika deck

[unkempt arrow]

Gonna build my Magna today

[wise yew]

Ayo ur still here?

[hasty hearth]

mine didnt even have source boss yeeted it out start of the fight

[unkempt arrow]

So sad this deck is about to get gimped to hell but

It’s so good lol

Well dang nvm I kept almost everything

[charred citrus]

Have a feeling they’ll keep making it better

Only part ii.

[unkempt arrow]

I’m optimistic

[solemn yacht]

yo wtf after like 800k you bare get any points for thousands of damge

the top guys are doing insane damage

i thought my build / memory frags were super scuffed. but I guess its good enough lol

[charred citrus]

Dunno ever since I saw that 1milly Mei I decided low stakes mental stack on this stuff 😂

None of my dps are e6 so do minimum for max rewards and cheeeeel

[solemn yacht]

Also, apparently the 500k is cumulative damage, so you can get max rewards even with super low level stuff just by spamming it lol

but letting tressa go ham was super fun. seeing her crit for up to 20kx3 was fire haha

[wise yew]

Can i full auto everything yet

Atleast all the farming

[solemn yacht]

Can't full auto chaos, but basically everything else is autoabl

[wise yew]

Yeh chaos was what the problem was for me

[lyric osprey]

Smh can't even make it to 800k I'll redo my decks

[meager junco]

remember guys, A rin player is in top 4 😄

even a Beryl player

mofo has one of the best decks for rin, except for annihilation, it would have been better if he had the 2x2 +2 hit one

[hasty hearth]

Phase 1 u can really use anything

It’s really all about phase 2 anyway that’s where the points are

[meager junco]

hmm

wtf OP weapon

[hasty hearth]

Nope

[wise yew]

Ok ping me when we can

Atleast auto the battle stages was what i was hoping for

Choosing which stage and path to go being manual was obvious, but i thought atleast battles could have been auto

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth did you say new save data from chaos zero is useable in seasonal events now?

[worthy raft]

Yes it is (codex map does need to have tunnel tag, which all maps now have )

[mellow bolt]

Oh nice

Btw what is the best way to farm mats for this shop? This shop is insane

[hasty hearth]

ye

[mellow bolt]

apparently the trick is to remove the rare enemy appearance from codex to farm zero lol

so you dont get those insane enemies in normal combat maps

but does chaos zero drop the new shop currency? if not then it's a waste

[hasty hearth]

it does

[mellow bolt]

oh wtf

ok i m moving on from that shitty event chaos then lol

[worthy raft]

Only “downside” its costs credits doing normal codex maps xD so even with all the refund we got you can burn through credits quite quickly

[mellow bolt]

it doesnt

i have thousands of the materials for crafting chaos zero maps

[worthy raft]

But for deck farming should be probably more ideal given more frequent card copy without “limits”.. also lab0 got new rare event which is ofc not card dupe so the chance of getting card copy event in lab0 is even worse now

[mellow bolt]

havent had to use credits to craft chaos maps after like week 1 lol

[mellow bolt]

ya

i did like 5 chaos on the event yesterday for mei lin

couldnt even get beyond 1 unity lol

[worthy raft]

I did 4 runs with chizuru and not single tsuki add hits or +wisp on next card used so absolutely garbage builds and epi proc rate still seems to be a garbage so will move to normal zero maps probably too..only bad thing is lower cost limit since rolling t13 is pain but that can be worked around a bit

[mellow bolt]

ya other than getting to the 8000 points a week in the event chaos, i think chaos zero will be better

there's also better gear, since the gear in the event chaos is mostly made for yuki

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt what have u been using for chaos with luke

im assuming mika is one of them

[mellow bolt]

i just did 1 run

luke chizuru rei

not sure if i got lucky with cards or what but the run was smooth af

[hasty hearth]

i swear

crit chance like just as a line in the first place on memory fragment

is the rarest this shit aint equal chance

[mellow bolt]

which one?

the one that generates 2 bullets on crit?

[hasty hearth]

no crit chance on gear

[mellow bolt]

memory fragment gear or chaos gear?

[hasty hearth]

i already said memory fragment sir

[lavish lark]

he just doesn't read

[mellow bolt]

this sentence

doesnt even make sense lol

[hasty hearth]

it clearly says

memory fragment

[mellow bolt]

so ill just look out for keywords

[hasty hearth]

and i mean crit chance line showing up on the gear in the first place

[mellow bolt]

and form my own conclusion to what you mean?

it's like talking to my pilots

dont know what theyre saying half the time

[hasty hearth]

but it clearly says memory fragment

like not understanding the part about memory fragment sure i can understand but it does clearly say memory fragment

[mellow bolt]

well if it's memory fragment it should be easy

you can just craft it

if youre farming for the middle crit% piece in chaos, that's a different story

[hasty hearth]

thats what i mean

i crafted 10 weapons

1 piece had crit chance

like wtf

[mellow bolt]

it's ok, after you go through it in a bunch of these games, you just accept your fate

you can also just use rainbow set and minmax the stats

other than the 25% crit dmg and 12% atk bonus, the other set bonuses are kind of mid anyways

[hasty hearth]

also

why is luke's deep trauma stress on kill

wtf LOL

[drifting flame]

https://x.com/artemis_epic7/status/1996449383240650970?s=46

タクルル (@artemis_epic7)

月影51連斬り。雑育成ですが、これがやりたくで一日中ずっとカオスに潜ってたｗ

X · Dec 4, 2025, 5:19 AM

How many turns

[hasty hearth]

on the side there turn 8

[solemn yacht]

Only thing that refreshes is rescue anchor, so just play normally and don’t burn yourself out.

That being said maybe some might make a macro / bot for chaos. I see you can get units / pieces for crafting for free. So maybe in the future people will bot chaos to get pieces for crafting

[mellow bolt]

only 33k dmg after 8 turns of stacking...smh

[mellow bolt]

true, the variation in the event chaos is very small, can probably easily make an ai bot for it

[drifting flame]

[wary cypress]

Whats better fkr tressa itsuku or bria?

Also if i run 2 nyx on same team do they stack?

[hasty hearth]

yes u can run multiple of same partner

[wary cypress]

Im preet6 sure combatant attack is multiplicative, idk how attack card dmg works

[solemn yacht]

Itisuki looks worse than the 4 star one for Tressa

[hasty hearth]

think people see the stacked part and think playing multiple cards from same combatent, but pretty sure its when the moon shadow stacks ontop of itself whether through copies or max willowisp

[wary cypress]

yea i think the stacking doesnt work so its a 16% combatatnt attack vs 30% attack card dmg

combatant attack is multiplicative on dmg formula

idk how attack card dmg works

[wary cypress]

at r1 maybe

but at r5

[hasty hearth]

really gonna pull maxed itsuki for tressa?

seems bit sus

[wary cypress]

I already pulled max itsuku

But idk if i should start buying bria on shop

[hasty hearth]

i personally wouldnt

i mean if ur a giga whale then sure do whatever u want

but mines on an sr and doesnt seem to really require anything more than that

[lavish lark]

don't trust Miracle on Tressa.. he is a Renoa enjoyer

[hasty hearth]

u really gonna suggest to someone to get max dupe bria for tressa?

[lavish lark]

I didn't say anything

[meager junco]

3 times

[solemn yacht]

I mean based on the plain reading, Bria seems great for Tressa, and your limited to one a month, and seems pretty clear Tressa is the strongest dps in the game

[mellow bolt]

damn that glaze

[hasty hearth]

until bosses are immune to agony

Only a matter of time before bosses are anti tressa

[nocturne kelp]

who are rei's best teammates?

[lavish lark]

Rei is a support

[nocturne kelp]

yeah

for my teams im just gona run tressa hugo mika since tressa is maxed duped

and second team someone with rei ahah

since shes also maxed duped

[lavish lark]

u build around the dps.. not a support

[nocturne kelp]

gg

okay so which dps goes best with rei

XD

[lavish lark]

all of them but Kayron and Haru

[lyric osprey]

[dawn flare]

What teams are u guys using to complete these stages on 10th?

My hugo team cant kill the 10th boss

[lavish lark]

tressa dps

[boreal axle]

i just used haru khalipe mika

[lavish lark]

if u get a couple Void of the wanderer neutral cards.. makes the fight really easy

[hollow ledge]

beryl

[dawn flare]

Amazing call

Had a somewhat good deck with 3 wanderers

[lavish lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-d-yayaya-aw-yeah-dr-disrespect-2time-back-to-back-champion-gif-15872944

[dawn flare]

Getting better

[charred citrus]

@hasty hearth @mellow bolt https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/s/EC765QWIJG

Rank 1 in JP uses chizuru

[mellow bolt]

damn that chizuru is gonna fit into so many teams in the future

[charred citrus]

Just made me crack up lol

All the chizuru fans getting trolled

[hasty hearth]

da fuq lol

[mellow bolt]

never in my life

have i seen the first boss copy my unity card

the most probable reason i quit this game is farming for a mei lin deck

[hasty hearth]

exist for essentially +2 ap a turn not bad

[mellow bolt]

it's such boring gameplay yet ive played it way more than any other team lol

[hasty hearth]

easy

just dont make one

[mellow bolt]

as mid as chizuru is, i cant deny that chizuru+luke is fun in chaos

[mellow bolt]

tbh i dont even care for one, i never use her for anything

[hasty hearth]

its okay

[mellow bolt]

but ive invested so much time alrdy trying to do this

[hasty hearth]

we just got to wait for a boss wheres hes completely immune for first 10 turns

[mellow bolt]

i cant stop now

[hasty hearth]

then chizuru will shine

[mellow bolt]

true lol

tbh this event boss made yuki pretty decent in the first half

[hasty hearth]

only because they buffed her mechanics in that fight

[mellow bolt]

ofc

i m sure theyll find ways to make every unit be good

especially new ones

[hasty hearth]

at this point

i want them to go back on their word of not nerfing

nerf the launch units

[mellow bolt]

nerf mei lin, so i can stop farming for this bitch

mei lin + veronica is some of the most boring gameplay

yet ive played it by far the most since it's been 4 weeks of farming

Maybe I just stick with this one with 2 unity

[charred citrus]

Didn’t have any luck either I went hard for a few days and said fk it lol

Why am I doin this when I have other units to try

Vero still my goat. If they made skins I’d buy em all

[mellow bolt]

ya unfortunately i have this fixation where once i start doing something, it's gonna be in my mind until i get it done lol

i have so many units id rather play and build, but i wanna get this one done first

[charred citrus]

I used to be like that. Now I’m old. So many options for immediate gratification

[mellow bolt]

i need to still build yuki, rei, nia, luke, chizuru lol

[charred citrus]

Werd. I’m still hunting two more decent order pieces too

But gonna take a break for a bit. Play some other ish

[mellow bolt]

ya

lol

maybe it's time i start farming others too before i lose my mind

there are so many units i wanna build now after seeing the leaderboard

the #1 player now uses a rin over meilin

[dawn thunder]

is Chizura card worth pulling?

[hasty hearth]

card? you mean partner? good on her but up to u

[drifting flame]

Yes

[lyric osprey]

I haven't touched Lin in a weeks I hate chaos with her so much

[trail lava]

i hate this game

[drifting flame]

[trail lava]

missing a weapon and 2 ephi

[pseudo parcel]

This is already my wet dream. Asking for anymore might as well go to the casino

[trail lava]

just sucks that 2 ephi didnt trigger at all

i'd understand if i didn't get the 1 i wanted but not triggering at all is bs lol

[mellow bolt]

2nd run with chizuru and I get this

Meanwhile 1 month of Mei Lin still no triple unity

[mellow bolt]

Bro how do you get this deck and not even pick up a single weapon for her lmao

You actually scuffed yourself

[trail lava]

was looking for the gold weapon and didn't get any lol

[mellow bolt]

That’s actually such a rip

Next time just take any wep as a stat stick

[boreal axle]

wtf howd u get so many dupe events

is there a strat for it

[lavish lark]

its not the season chaos.. so there's more chance at copy

[meager junco]

yeah season chaos SUX hard

[hasty hearth]

honestly i kind of like chizuru with basic attack card especially if u get upgrade with onihunt

feels really bad when ur moon shadow isnt stacked and u got to play a 8 hit base moon shadow

[mellow bolt]

have you played her with luke

[hasty hearth]

yeah

[mellow bolt]

then stacking shouldnt be a problem

[hasty hearth]

if ur fighting only 1 boss 1 round then yeah not a problem

but it feels so fkin bad outside of that

[mellow bolt]

tbh chizuru should never be your main DPS anyways

she's better off to be just played like a beryl

one big nuke at the end for boss fights only

for everything else, there are just way too many better units

[lyric osprey]

Standard banner moment thanks

[hasty hearth]

that's not tressa tho

[lyric osprey]

I mean I would get Tressa if I were pulling on the rate up banner

I'm still missing 2

[hasty hearth]

wow how could u not have ur #1 max duped

disappointed in u roswall

[lavish lark]

tbf the last 2 dupes on tressa are whatever

[mellow bolt]

i think i m gonna go for chizuru C2

that extra shadow of the moon helps a lot to go from shadow of the moon+ back to +

alright now we the chaos runs with chizuru will be even smoother

the day a super multi hit spammer comes out, chizuru will be cooking

[mellow bolt]

btw what is the best team for cassius in chaos? i m gonna try to build him a deck for that tressa spam

[hasty hearth]

ive done renoa/cassius/mika

honestly u can probably get away with lot of different units paired with him

[mellow bolt]

do i need to run him with another healer?

[hasty hearth]

u dont have to but it can get sus like running rei as ur only healer

the sustain can get a bit sketchy

[mellow bolt]

hmm alright ill give it a shot

chizuru and luke is kind of nice for that

since they kill so fast and chizuru helps a bit in healing

[hasty hearth]

really? For me when i did rei/chizuru/luke it got hella sketchy sometimes

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

[hasty hearth]

wait ur luke is like maxed almost right @mellow bolt ?

[mellow bolt]

nah just c4

[hasty hearth]

i mean......

that probably explains why urs probably works lot better than me

[mellow bolt]

but basically i use chizuru's shadow of the moon as soon as it hits + to get the heal off

[hasty hearth]

since my luke e0

[mellow bolt]

instead of going to bind 5

[hasty hearth]

i do too

cuz healing without mika was rough

but with ur extra bullets its probably easier

[mellow bolt]

ya maybe that's it

cause luke is kind of insane

just so many bullets every turn

might be one of the strongest DPS units for chaos

[hasty hearth]

moo a true connosieur of dudes in czn

[mellow bolt]

luke went from my least liked character in CBT

to one of my favorites now

green dudes run supreme in this game

wait cassius only has 1 heal card? @hasty hearth

or does one of the quests heal too

i dont know how any of these quests work lol, i m gonna need to do some homework

oh wait, his ego lets him heal everytime he draws, that's good

[hasty hearth]

yeah 1 heal card and yeah if you get the play 3 0 cost cards it gives u an attack card that heals

0 1 2 is buff card

0 0 0 is attack card + heal

3 different combatent cards = draw 1

1 1 1 is card that does more damage the more cards played

[mellow bolt]

what the hell

i need to watch a video on this guy

lmao

[hasty hearth]

nah ull pick it up fast

[mellow bolt]

i just started a tier 14 chaos with him as my sole healer

i m nervous

[hasty hearth]

his deck pretty straightforward

u can go for upgrade epiphany on dice trick (2 cost) that rewards u with random quest card on quest completion

or go for as many joker cards

[mellow bolt]

yeh

https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/characters/cassius

prydwen actually has the builds right

i was skeptical at first but then most of the builds actually look pretty good

[hasty hearth]

the dice trick one is great with tressa

joker one just good for most characters but especially so for characters like chizuru

since each joker is just another tsukiyomi

[mellow bolt]

yeh i wanna make that one for tressa

who knew the team that can do the most dmg is just 3 of the 4 stars

[unkempt arrow]

[unkempt arrow]

Everyone ngl lol

That team been meta for ever

[unkempt arrow]

Made a decent Rei Deck

Now that I understand Rin chaos is way better with her

It sucked major ass at first

[meager junco]

lol

well yeah, rin needs rei

rei buffs the shit outta her

[drifting flame]

https://youtu.be/HimqJge9zjk?si=97Dlej2DE8xMlBni

[boreal axle]

bruh 168 turns

man was goin for highlight vid

[lyric osprey]

After all these get shown during their update stream

Free visibility

Copium

[drifting flame]

[meager junco]

what the fuck mate

[austere wing]

How much pulls did you pull that off?

[hasty hearth]

f2p btw

[drifting flame]

Ya I’m f2p

Don’t usually pull for partners

But when I do

I get lucky

[lavish lark]

I still have yet to pull anything off-pity

[mellow bolt]

This is my 4th time getting 4 unity with move but no dragon epi

Love this game

[drifting flame]

I gave up on her

[mellow bolt]

good move tbh

i actually hate her lol

she feels impossibly more difficult to get a decent deck than any other character

[hollow ledge]

i want chizuru so i can move from selena + mei lin + rei

[hasty hearth]

[hollow ledge]

i want to try pairing selena with non-passion

i know she's best suited with passion characters but i'm trying to branch out from pure passion

Lucas is full ego I could build him

[lavish lark]

do we ever want the left one? seems kinda bad as an initiation card

[hasty hearth]

imo no u probably want middle or right

[lavish lark]

is there any good version?

[hasty hearth]

typically i pick the right one, but middle one also fine

[lavish lark]

hate how u can't see all epiphanies from inside a chaos

[hasty hearth]

middle one is on average better especially if ur just going spam tsukiyomi, right one better if u going for copies of oni hunt

[meager junco]

check prydwen 😉

https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/characters/chizuru

[lavish lark]

u like that one? its only useful when there are multiple enemies.. and even then it's meh

[hasty hearth]

that one is trash

as u pointed out only use case is multiple enemies and even then it doesnt feel great

chizuru as a unit just sucks major dick against multiple enemies anyway so u wouldnt use her for those type of fights

[lavish lark]

why do I always prefer the one on the right?

its way more consistent isnt it? 3 bullets and it's free for 6 hits

using 6 attack cards in 1 turn is not easy either

[trail lava]

the nerf helps a lot, finally beat the last difficulty

[hollow ledge]

did they change more card art or is quick shelling the only one?

the gun is still kind of derpy, it tries very hard to be an even more compact kalash

[mellow bolt]

are you guys just rerunning the same difficulty 8 dungeons at a high tier?

i havent really done this cause you miss out on completion rewards...but it seems like it's the best way to fish for a good deck

[trail lava]

I do that for the weekly rewards

I run zero system when building a deck

[hollow ledge]

the bonus floor is such a letdown

i thought they'd make up for the fact that they polluted the rare event pool with a stupid run effect card

that said, he ate shit

[lavish lark]

wait is the "Attack!" card bugged on Chizuru ?

u can pull the shadow of the moon with the same stacks.. so if u pull a 3stacks.. it goes to 5 instantly

[acoustic iron]

what the fuck

[drifting flame]

But once u get it she’s the best dps out there

[drifting flame]

What the chizuru

[mellow bolt]

wtf gg

[mellow bolt]

I did it finally

I’m never beating this deck

I never have to play Mei Lin in chaos again

I combine this with this vero deck and there’s so much draw + AP

[drifting flame]

Do mine

Sucks that u need move and 1 hit and copy on good card

[mellow bolt]

I did gimmicked it

I got lucky on the move epi but I also removed all the epi cards on the other units lol

My vero had no epi cards left by the end and my Mika only had 1 epi card

So I was guaranteed to get one of Mei lins cards on both the copy event and the final boss

But getting both epis for Mei Lin was lucky af which rarely happens

[meager junco]

which chaos level do you run when u remove all other units cards?

[drifting flame]

How the fuck u remove so much in 1 run

[hollow ledge]

akkad with a pipe

[meager junco]

has this been posted already?

looks like a dedicated Order support

Yuki support inc. ? 😄

[lyric osprey]

I pinned to the source of

[mellow bolt]

Just the difficulty 8 event chaos at a tier 15

[lavish lark]

which one.. 11 ?

[mellow bolt]

Just gotta get the 2x remove thing at the beginning, get the convert event and a couple remove events in exterior and get a bunch of shop removals in interior

[mellow bolt]

Nah 8

No point going beyond 8

I just built a Hugo for my Mei Lin and vero team

[lavish lark]

how many times do u have to refresh for 15.. I feel like I never see above 13 without nightmare

[mellow bolt]

Hmm a lot, but most decks don’t need tier 15

Only for the high removal ones

I’m using it to build a lot of 1 deck and 2 card decks lol

[worldly ingot]

Nani the fuck

Like I see the vision but...this feels wrong lol

[mellow bolt]

As long as the enemy doesn’t kill me this should be good right?

[worldly ingot]

I feel like if I wanted a minimal Hugo deck I'd try for

Hunting instinct 0 cost, maybe with a dupe.
Fixer's
Quick fix with draw 2 and divine for 0 cost
Dingo upgrade version, with 0 divine.

And remove all remaining cards. But of course that's probably not likely

But hp is just a resource, if you have more than 1 it's fine fight?

[mellow bolt]

Ah ya I’m just using that cause it goes to 0 cards after it’s used so it’s just Mei Lin and Veronica