CZN gooner gang godz only

[nocturne kelp]

aight

[hasty hearth]

I personally don’t like haru playstyle so I’m biased

Especially at e0

[nocturne kelp]

is khalippe

current banner?

[lavish lark]

no khalipe is just the most versatile one

shielder with massive aoe

[nocturne kelp]

sounds good

ill go with hugo then

[hasty hearth]

Yuki is current banner

[unkempt arrow]

[nocturne kelp]

poggers

okay so wats the beginner guide

do i just play or is there a min max route to go to

[lavish lark]

have u played Uma ?

it follows the same basics.. the characters u have are basically a template.. and with chaos u make their builds/decks

[nocturne kelp]

nop

[lavish lark]

well, what I said applies anyways

u are just not familiar with it yet

[trail lava]

yeah i dont think i can beat this 💀

[hasty hearth]

Not with that attitude

[mellow bolt]

Are there leaks for the next character

[nocturne kelp]

should i summon or just save? @hasty hearth

[lavish lark]

save for next banner imo.. E2 in this game is very powerful on most characters

[nocturne kelp]

should i do this>?

[lavish lark]

its discounted 10pulls

u can do it or just go full perma.. u are not guaranteed an SSR anymore probably

[nocturne kelp]

aight ill do it since its perma rolls

anyway

oh my god my 5th multi

not too bad

[lavish lark]

damn

[nocturne kelp]

guessing i ignore her?

is she better than hugo?

[lavish lark]

Miracle might get mad if u ignore her

[nocturne kelp]

game still hella confusing

like idk how to fight properly

what cards to play etc

XD

[lavish lark]

its very intuitive.. u will get it eventually

[drifting flame]

When I’m free

[hollow ledge]

i wish i had two selenas

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth

Your wife

[unkempt arrow]

Finally found a 15

Gonna try for that Haru build here

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-warmup-ultra-instinct-goku-ultra-instinct-goku-ssj-gif-14730092257884162955

[hasty hearth]

Wow truly the face of czn

[granite stump]

there is no real better in this game
every char works different

[hasty hearth]

Well that’s a lie

Hugo Tressa def beast single target

I’ll take that over like Rin any day

[granite stump]

its not
Hugo Tressa is a really stupid combo

But Rin can also easy annihilate the hardest boss rn

its all about comps
some chars bring more to the table then others yes

Rin orlea can burst out so much dmg its also stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah1F2roynTg

7 Turns

[hasty hearth]

My guy said 7 turns

When the “top” teams beat it in 1

I do agree u can beat content with anything sure but there clearly is better and worse

Just because everyone can clear the content doesn’t mean there isn’t a “better”

[granite stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Z2DNAbyZk

we are down to 5 turns

[granite stump]

cant compare Rin to chars that do it in 1 turn because thats just not how she works

doing this in 5 Turns with Rin just shows that she is super strong in a solid setup

[granite hull]

Not a lot of chars that can do it in one or two

[granite stump]

exactly so thats not even a real argument

[granite hull]

Probably just mei lin and hugo/teressa

[granite stump]

5 turns is very very fast

[granite hull]

Yeah 5 is fast

[granite stump]

and that cements what i said that there is no real "better" in this game

Different chars are better in doing different things in this game
there is just a small handfull of chars that are very good at everything so you can bring em in every content

and by better i mean the typical "better then" from normal hero collector games

[hasty hearth]

That’s where ur wrong. Especially if it’s related to dps. Dps is purely number game if x can do the damage in 1 turn vs y doing it in 5 turns that means x does more damage than y. Now obviously y can be better if the gimmick makes y better than x but purely with what we have then yes there is a clear hierarchy for the content we have

I never said y is unviable or even bad all I’m saying is x > y which is a fact with what we have currently

[granite stump]

i guess we wont come together on this opinion but thats fine

[hasty hearth]

Especially since it’s regarding “single target damage” that is quite literally the easiest thing to quantify and compare between characters

I agree with ur points just the “no real better part” which yeah difference in opinion I guess

[granite stump]

btw if you havent seen it friend of mine took his time and made some math for dmg buffs and stuff im gonna link his reddit post

[granite hull]

It's just between the best and solid, there is always meta units tbh

[hasty hearth]

That’s quite literally the definition of “better unit”

Never said in this case rin is bad or unusable

Just Hugo > rin in terms of all the content we have

[granite hull]

Waifu>meta

[granite stump]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1p3bkog/clearing_up_some_misconceptions_about_buffs_and/

[hasty hearth]

Yeah fair she has that over Hugo

[granite stump]

he was calculating the last few nights

[hasty hearth]

Nice good read 👍

[granite stump]

leave an upvote for him
he is currently on more calculations for setups and stuff

man totally lost it since release and hasnt seen his girl in days just to do math on this game

[lyric osprey]

I do it in 5 with only 4*

[hasty hearth]

Dirty Tressa enjoyer

@lyric osprey u saw clarissa or whatever her name was?

Might be ur new waifu

[lyric osprey]

The 5* agony?

Yeah maybe

[lyric osprey]

I was trying to kill it in 4 turns yesterday failed. And I can't get a good build going smh never the right copy

[lyric osprey]

Basically 19k DMG on turn 5.

[hasty hearth]

@lyric osprey ur lobby background better be Tressa or ur a fake fan

[lyric osprey]

Surely if I had more divine I could legit kill it turn 2 or 3. Or if My Cassius wasn't naked lvl 40 and doing actual DMG ( also had about 96 agony on him )

Also you got it wrong I'm secretly a Kayron enjoyer. @hasty hearth

[mellow bolt]

Who do you run rei with in chaos?

Also what is bis build for her for Renoa?

[hasty hearth]

Is that really much of a secret tho?

[hasty hearth]

Renoa works well with her in chaos

[hasty hearth]

Amping 1 cost

I personally like the 100% damage until used for one of her cards but 1 turn void damage also solid

Other than that just stack as much morale as possible with some draw

[lyric osprey]

Cassius real morale battery

[lyric osprey]

[supple wasp]

@hasty hearth hows jopon

I basically drove 4 hrs from narita to nagano

Lol

[meager junco]

guys ur arguing over whos better and whos not on a release state game...

there can be future supports that change how current "shit" units work and make them top tier xD
ofc not saying it will happen but we all know gacha and shit like that happens

[drifting flame]

Isn’t this determined pretty much after 2 weeks of any game release

I have skill issue

Me cannot beat Judas 6

[meager junco]

its an ever changing formula 😄

its just missing that one support that makes "useless" chars great again cuz it gives them what they are currently missing yada yada

always like this

when whas the last time a game released and had fully fledged out teams for all dps on launch

i dont know of any game xd

[meager junco]

i need that one support that has no attack cards but buffs dmg and gives AP so my Rin can go off like crazy 😄

[meager junco]

uhhh

[lyric osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/s/qqbCLogl6a tf

[meager junco]

man i cant see my hp nor if im in stance

wtf is this bug

oh its back now

[lavish lark]

how is this even possible.. I removed a neutral card yesterday and it still charged me 20 points

[hasty hearth]

It’s nice

[meager junco]

if u instead of remove basics, turn them via event into mutant sample, mutant sample will get removed at the end of the run as it only exists in chaos

which in return gives u a free removal that does not affect FM

thank me later

ofc it works with ANY card not just basics

[hasty hearth]

Feelsbadman

[lyric osprey]

He did quit before the first boss and only unlocked these

High roll rng

That 3 basic removed + 2 divine epi: 140

Can't be charged extra for something you never had to begin with

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[lyric osprey]

https://b23.tv/4RsE0B8

[lavish lark]

casual 20+ morale

[lyric osprey]

Yeppers easy

[meager junco]

the dmg is a bit low

[lyric osprey]

This was the most horrendous run.. unlocked this on the 2nd boss no good epi. Could've been great

Why can't I have good rng like people and only get useful divine on this kind of run

[meager junco]

fuck my fucking life

i get this OP nihilium ephi

and end up losing the run cuz of the fucking enhanced mob

id roll this if only anihilation was ephied...

[lavish lark]

gluttony? or what enhancement

[meager junco]

u mean the mob?

[lavish lark]

yeah

[meager junco]

it was this bat type thing

shit hit me with 50% of my HP each turn

15k hp

[lavish lark]

vagine bat?

[meager junco]

didnt draw jackshit from my rin

yea

[lavish lark]

its a real problem if u dont get attack cards

[meager junco]

ya

the main issue was i did not get rins basic lol only on second turn
on top of getting like her bread and butter attacks but no stance on turn 1

wish i could have ended the run and with some chance copied that card above

its the ultimate one to have
it having +1 AP on top... OP... lets me spam her attack cards without issues

[nocturne kelp]

im not understanding the combat

any tricks and tips

[meager junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU0-aXcAVM8

[nocturne kelp]

what should my team be?

just got haru

[meager junco]

u got a solid team with Khalipe, Veronica and Hugo

other than that, best DPS (f2p) would be Tressa

[lavish lark]

this was a mutant sample... and a conversion into Quick Shelling that got divine epiphany and then removed

so maybe mutant is not free? its still 10 points?

[nocturne kelp]

do i pull for partners?

[lavish lark]

no unless u whale

[simple stump]

if u like, most of the time it just a stats stick

with minor passive

[lavish lark]

u pick em up from the shop from pity

[hasty hearth]

Conversion was never free it was always 10 points wasn’t it

It’s just the best because the cost is way less than removal but effectively getting same effect

[lavish lark]

but mutant was supposed to be free.. @solemn yacht said

so I guess it's still 10 points

[nocturne kelp]

no reason to save perm banner sums then?>

[lavish lark]

selector basically

[nocturne kelp]

do you guys just use all ur energy?

or do i save for events

[solemn yacht]

The mutant was free… how did you count to 60?

Remove one basic, 20 points. Remove a converted neutral (10+10). Then divine epiphany is another 20. So that’s 60

So mutant removal was free

[solemn yacht]

Tbh if you hit 50 it’s probably a good idea to save the free refill. They might do stuff like in epic 7 like double drop rate

[lavish lark]

oh that's right. i forgot removing the neutral also counts as a removal

[solemn yacht]

Saved you 10 points compared to straight removal. So that’s very interesting for hyper optimizing

[lavish lark]

yeah yeah.. just forgot it's still a removal

[solemn yacht]

Normally it costs me 50 to remove all basics, but for you it was 40

[lavish lark]

wait why is this 120 ?

isn't the monster card 90 points?

1 remove and the divine epiph

[acoustic iron]

the game makes no sense fr

December update couldn't come faster

[lyric osprey]

It's 80

It's all checks out

[lavish lark]

how does it check out

are u saying an epiphany on monster card doesn't add points ?

[lyric osprey]

I'm almost certain only divine does on monsters. Could be wrong

[solemn yacht]

I don’t think monster card ephis add points

Or only certain monster card ephiphanies add points

Since I have some builds with an 80 point monster card with epiphany

[unkempt arrow]

These epiphanies are so ass I lowkey don’t even wanna farm until we can reroll them

Literally had a prime Tressa deck until the end of the run

Didn’t get epiphanies for like 3/4ths of zone 2 then when I do it’s the wrong one

[solemn yacht]

Most of the times I finish with max ephinanies for stuff I’m farming.

1. prioritize ? Nodes. Since you accumulate ephiphanies even outside of combat nodes so you can get extra if you hit ? Nodes with ephiphanies
2. remove unique cards from characters your not farming, especially if they don’t have ephiphanies yet. To cut down on other cards getting epiphanies and improve your copy chances
3. if your at the end of the first half and haven’t gotten all your card ephiphanies, start looking for / buying the accessory that can force a card ephiphanies.
4. reroll the first blessing till you get remove 2 cards or a good card conversion. Makes it easier to afford these removals

[lyric osprey]

Tried and yes normal epi doesn't add anything onto monster cards

[nocturne kelp]

i must be mentaly challenge

so how do you play the hugo vero khallipe team

i feel like im just trying to use hugo cards since he is dps

[mellow bolt]

Got 4 of these bad boys

Does it even work if she runs out of cards to draw lol

[hasty hearth]

Yeah it reshuffles the deck

[shut talon]

Ohh

[mellow bolt]

Oh not bad then

So I can get like 4 icebergs in one turn

[lyric osprey]

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

No because when u play it it’s not part of grave until turn ends

@hallow trout where this guy been

Busy with WWM?

[dawn flare]

Please game let me save this

[hasty hearth]

Shiny

[dawn flare]

OH yes it saved. Just added 1 attack card, not a big deal

[meager junco]

someone likes Hugo 😄

[dawn flare]

this 0 cost was bugged, they only fixed it last patch. We could't get it with Initiation and 0 cost

[worldly ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-chaos-zero-nightmare-furry-gif-696217565359472775

I see a fellow Hugo enjoyer

[granite stump]

Lmao my first run with Hugo on a T7 Planet

[hallow trout]

im on vacation with folks til new year

[hasty hearth]

Oh I see can’t upset Samsung ceo now true

[charred citrus]

What a good life. I’m with parents til new yr ><

Need a new game. Might be Aion 2 time… I saw there’s English client

[lyric osprey]

Surely one day they give us a epi redraw

[charred citrus]

I’m sure they will. They keep watering the game down

Give it another month of ppl crying imo

[lyric osprey]

I just start to hate the seasonal format

[charred citrus]

It’s just chizuru/lab 2 waiting room for me

I don’t mind the format. It’s just not catered to ppl who clear everything yet

[lyric osprey]

Items pool so limited, event are iffy, I the last 20 run I kid you not I saw probably 2 forbidden while I did get into every tunnel

[charred citrus]

Maybe we get that two team chaos tho

Item pool is tailored to the banner unit ya

Which is why she fun to use honestly

[lyric osprey]

Good thing I totally have Yuki

[charred citrus]

Without the items she wouldn’t feel as good

[charred citrus]

Haha

Play the banner unit in their released lab is pretty solid to me. I’m bored of everyone else

Only 5* haven’t done 20+ chaos with is Luke e2

[lavish lark]

how to reroll first blessing?

[charred citrus]

You reset planet

< real

[lyric osprey]

Just quit

[lavish lark]

dont u get laziness?

[lyric osprey]

Does it matter really

Half the time I get useless blessing

For forbidden cata

Or I got what he saying wrong

I wish there were another lab planned for part two honestly. Farming Zero feel eh

[charred citrus]

Should be a new lab no? New bosses fasho based on the achievements

New items bosses and some new events I think

[lyric osprey]

I hope so

[charred citrus]

I’m gonna be disappointed if chizuru is some inspiration based dps

Better have new items and ish for her mechanic

[lyric osprey]

Same

[charred citrus]

What else are you playing Ros?

I need something while waiting room that I can play on laptop

[lyric osprey]

TFT PBE

I think I'm downbad I'm more excited about that new 4* support that was leaked than Chizuru

I'm tired of Mika

[charred citrus]

Same. Can always handicap and run rei/cass solo

[lyric osprey]

I do that sometimes too but I got my Cassius build and Rei too

[charred citrus]

I’m just bored of the decks. Once you consistently get them through chaos and have strong enough sim decks zzz

[lyric osprey]

Only thing that would've made this better would've been dice for 0

[charred citrus]

I don’t find pushing high lvl planets fun either so def kinda downbad as well

Yea when he has 2 cost it just feels bleh

[lyric osprey]

I mean devil dice* had to be some useless tenacity DMG

[charred citrus]

Ya that’s actually one of the worst parts of deck building supports

Majority of the time you’re hunting specific 0 costs

Add specific bonuses like +ap or morale and it gets super frustrating but shii like that should be rare imo

[lyric osprey]

Yeah I know.

But waiting on that exp refund and I'll soon be able to switch up the unit I run

[charred citrus]

Ayy that’s a win at least

I was so bored the other day I almost e2 luke

Then I realized I was short of getting his partner and had 0 of his potential farmed bc of yuki…

[lyric osprey]

I wish I had him E2 I'd be working on him, but I would need his partner too

[charred citrus]

Better to just wait till monthly reset

His is too good yea

I don’t wanna run him with 4*

[lyric osprey]

Cassius Luke goes kinda hard though

[charred citrus]

Pulls on chizuru will get me enough to grab his partner tho so /waitingroom

[lyric osprey]

Cassius always go hard.. I'm biased

[charred citrus]

He has some solid team options

Bread cleared 126 with luke vero

Bullet buffer = Lucas

Then all the utility supports solid with him

You saw the renoa buffer Mei Lin?

1milly damage lmao

Shit is so stupid

[lyric osprey]

Maybe I should just get everything to 30 I've put that on hold because I was only farming event

[lyric osprey]

Huh

Send it pls

[charred citrus]

Let me find it

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/s/UuHRikY9cw

[lyric osprey]

Haha

[charred citrus]

Cycling the stupid ass flower epi that buffs next attack by 40%

[lyric osprey]

This is still funny to see

[unkempt arrow]

It’s so ass that the first forbidden is chance based

Then if u don’t see the card the first zone u can’t get it the 2nd lol

[granite stump]

listen
gbf

ok bye

[mellow bolt]

Tof warped servers out in 2 days

[charred citrus]

Oooh let me see if it runs aight on laptop

[charred citrus]

I tried gbf a long time ago… same issues as e7. Game is so ridiculously deep, I dunno if I can stay dedicated for months

[charred citrus]

The cube from blue pot 30 is pretty good. You can do some fun combos with it

[granite stump]

True gbf is deep af like 7 layers of hell deep haha
its the poe of gacha games

[charred citrus]

catchup takes mad long too

[hasty hearth]

Yo it’s okay @wise yew got u I heard that’s the one game he’s a grind god at

[manic knot]

he's seen the light we're dna grinders now not gbf

[nocturne kelp]

why do these packs seem dog value

[wise yew]

Im still hittin gbf unfortunately

All caught up except for end game raids im too lazy to do

[charred citrus]

Bc they all are. Basically crystal’s (while 2x) then the new season $50 packs are best value for pulls

[manic knot]

time to quit you have new main now

[charred citrus]

Dunno… games that take more than a month of dedicated play to semi catchup to end game content is rough for my attn span

My friend spent 3 months on gbf and said ppl still wouldn’t let him into the new raids bc his stats too low lol

Not sure how accurate that is but funny af

[wise yew]

[hasty hearth]

It’s grind god Jan he will just grind them both

[wise yew]

im weak and washed

[mellow bolt]

So is the epi reroll node for epiphanies or ego skill?

[lavish lark]

ego

EP Skill it says

[mellow bolt]

I’m uninstalling

Gg it was fun boys

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt I’m gonna miss coco curry

[trail lava]

bro 💀

[mellow bolt]

They have a couple in LA lol

I’m gonna miss BHC chicken when I leave Korea

[hasty hearth]

Wrong side of the country for me lol

[lyric osprey]

[hasty hearth]

Can’t wait for bosses to be immune to agony

[nocturne kelp]

so is my team the best ? i heard hugo + tressa is so good so unsure why i got recommended the ones i have built

just trying to optimize

[meager junco]

In 1 1/2 weeks ull have everyone at 60 so dont worry

They gonna reducr cost of lvling by 80%

Im pre farming unit XP already

[acoustic iron]

I still dont think ill be focusing lv.60

just promote and thats it

[lyric osprey]

Lmao

[hasty hearth]

Hugo Tressa together is very very strong the reason u have khalipe and Veronica is because they are flexible for literally any other team

No point in Hugo Tressa and then it’s difficult to build up other teams because u don’t have units like khalipe/vero

Pretty sure this was what we said when u asked about what account to buy

[nocturne kelp]

right okay sounds good

so for my first team to just help me clear all through early game content

do i switch out vero/khalippe for tressa?

[mellow bolt]

Don’t use vero khalipe

Boring team and it’s mid

Use either Tressa Hugo or vero Renoa

[nocturne kelp]

didnt u uninstall 😆

[main isle]

Finally back, work kicked my ass

what account did you have in mind?

[rain rain]

got a couple choices you can choose from, in various states of progres/resources

but rn I'm kinda dead on my feet after getting back home lol

the tldr is I've got like 2-3 f2p accs in the 20-30s for player level, those don't have a heck of a lot of pulling resources but they're fairly stacked unit-wise, also got a couple ones in the mid teens that are less stacked in terms of units but more freebie resources left to gather

if you're still on in a couple hours when I wake up again I'll boot up the instances to get the specific ss for them but rn I'm about to pass out lol

[main isle]

no worries, take your time

based on initial impressions my waifus are Khalipe and Rin

Maybe Yuki and/or Magna

[rain rain]

don't think I have an acc with all 4

ik I have 1-2 khalipe accs + same amount with rin too

but yeah, I need to crash

[hollow ledge]

we are making numbers

how many will i get before the compensation rolls out?

I have 5 more uncapped combatants to get to 60

[hollow ledge]

stupid divine

[static crescent]

She finished

Time for dumb potential nodes

[hollow ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[acoustic iron]

finally done this guy just missing 1 feather

with 33% extra attack

onto tressa now

[nocturne kelp]

didnt know there's something like limbo r1999 in this

who's my second team?

khalipe vero renoa or haru

or any 4*s recommendations

[lavish lark]

khalipe vero renoa a very safe bet

[nocturne kelp]

this better than renoa rei nia?

[lavish lark]

khalipe and vero u will want at max level

they can go anywhere

[nocturne kelp]

amazing

ill build renoa then

[trail lava]

man that's the wrong one

[drifting flame]

Isn’t right one good?

[jaunty orchid]

Why is this taking forever

[trail lava]

yeah i wanted the divine ephi to hit it

[jaunty orchid]

Its a nice watch tho

[trail lava]

1 cost infinite kick sounds nice

[jaunty orchid]

Wait wrong game LOL

Mb

[drifting flame]

Gotta suffer

[hasty hearth]

Nice troll

[desert sequoia]

Today I learned there is a czn channel

[next jolt]

Migi how much u contributed to keeping the lights on for sg

[acoustic iron]

have we info on serenials element?

[unkempt arrow]

No sir

[acoustic iron]

aight guess i just focus tressa then

[hasty hearth]

oh man finally back home

[unkempt arrow]

How was everything overall? And the highlights @hasty hearth

[hasty hearth]

was really good. Japan such a weird country has like some super nice conveniences and some really weird things lol

[unkempt arrow]

Weird is an understatement

Trust I know

[hasty hearth]

like why is there multiple different currencies in circulation and half the vending machines dont accept the old one like 50 yen coin

[unkempt arrow]

But those vending machines can give you dang near everything u need

Which is cool and depressing in a way

[hasty hearth]

i mean i heard its cuz it was expensive for the old 50 yen coin like to make it so they swapped the metals used and they made new vending machines that only accept new one but said "ah fk it lets leave old one in circulation too much of a hassle"

[unkempt arrow]

Imagine if Us vending machines stopped accepting quarters b4 2015

[hasty hearth]

food was great tho

@unkempt arrow oh yeah also for one of the cleanest countries in the world there is so little garbage cans i saw more garbage cans in a single subway station than the entire country cities combined lol

[hollow ledge]

oh this is delicious

[unkempt arrow]

[hollow ledge]

man this deck is fried

three moons of destruction

[nocturne kelp]

alright need some big brain help

so im at 13k Gems and level 10 in the BP

Im currently at 6000/10000 for the bp to weekly cap which will put me at level 14

If i buy the advanced pass ill be at level 24

I need level 30 for the 5* support

buying 6 levels is 900 gems

worth ?

my box atm

[hasty hearth]

depends on u really cuz im pretty sure the future BPs will be same partners because that is the only way to obtain them currently

nyx is really good but assuming next BP also has them then it's really a matter of if u want to spend or not

[acoustic iron]

yeah will be while before 2nd batch of BP partners

[hasty hearth]

honestly nyx is so good im picking her for next one if it's same partners

slap her on 2 supports

[acoustic iron]

yeah ill be duping mine

[nocturne kelp]

so it adds a huge difference ?

[nocturne kelp]

debating if its worth the 900 gems

[hasty hearth]

i mean her ego skill is nuts

[balmy lion]

Nyx is absolutely worth it

[hasty hearth]

4 cost discard up to 3 draw +1 amount whatever u discarded

[nocturne kelp]

yeah

i guess its worth it

better than summoning anyway

who else i should build to just farm exp?

my levle 40 units alrdy got their potentials max ish to wahtever i can

just need to farm something for account exp

My guess Nia Rei?

[hasty hearth]

rei, cassius, nia in that order for the supports i would say

[unkempt arrow]

Big brain farming lowkey

[balmy lion]

yeah maneuvering fire is great for doin sim farming

[nocturne kelp]

no point farming gear early?

or it makes a diff?

[hasty hearth]

early on just get set effects

when u can get legendary gear then u can farm

[boreal axle]

whats the best yuki comps these days

is it yuki vero +1?

[balmy lion]

Had fun with Yuki, Cassius and Nia in a run

Not optimal but I was getting 2 deck clears with double ice slash per turn

[hasty hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-waiting-bench-skeleton-gif-4894276245579207105

that's her best comp

shes good with rei, cassius, nia

[boreal axle]

im e6 will be using regardless

ok ill try rei

rei yuki vero

[hasty hearth]

shes also good with vero yeah

[hollow ledge]

the maneuvering fire is great to finish off. three moons of destruction can insta kill the tier 6 goblins

that way you can press a button and only do "one battle" and then it's over

[nocturne kelp]

i hate how we cant skip

dialogues

[trail lava]

Ez 1 shot

[nocturne kelp]

i still dont know who i want to main

or wat playstyle i want to run

[trail lava]

i just use them all

[lyric osprey]

Well that was underwhelming

[hasty hearth]

same just 1 turned with renoa

[hasty hearth]

bet u just tressa

smh

feel like crab was harder as well

[nocturne kelp]

@hasty hearth whats ur main team

[hasty hearth]

renoa/nia/rei

well for the challenge stuff that's what i use

[balmy lion]

When you hit the perfect hand on renoa and get 8+ dirge bullets and then ult for another 8+

[hasty hearth]

nah

that's so week 1

it's all about nia skill on 1st shuffle

just dirge bulleting like 30+ times

[balmy lion]

oh yeah true

and when they all crit

oof pure cinema

[nocturne kelp]

how do i build these guys

[hasty hearth]

u got lot cheaper options than that team

renoa go for 1 cost discard all other combatent +2 dirge bullet per

with extra damage 100% 1 turn on ballad

rest kind of whatever u like

[nocturne kelp]

wdy,m

isnt that team cheap?

i got that team

[unkempt arrow]

Reona needs good gear imo

If ur gear is subpar it doesn’t work as well and most people dont have the gear

[lyric osprey]

[trail lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJlHbp76R9k

[nocturne kelp]

ima have to pull her

i love my sword people

[meager junco]

Psyonic?

Did they rename void

Lol

[granite hull]

I have guaranteed pull in 20 since i lost 50/50 on yuki and did some more multis

She's in the bag for me tbh

[solemn yacht]

Prob ChatGPT translate on everything lol

[meager junco]

[worthy raft]

Its class , so either extremely bad element and element type translation or if not than she is same class as kayron

Which is class name psionic

[trail lava]

Tressa is that class i think

[nocturne kelp]

Is her banner after Hulu

Yuki

[hasty hearth]

yeah what u mean psionic is class did u never look at tressa class lol

[hasty hearth]

as cyk pointed out renoa is very dependent on gear + potentials mainly because her last node requires 60% crit for additional dirge bullet damage which is probably the most difficult stat to acquire

[meager junco]

Why bother about classes if they dont affect the game

I care about Element due to its impact and ofc if the unit is a dps or Support or sustainer

[hasty hearth]

but that's what classes are good to know for

psionic can get a lot of the draw neutral cards

gear bag, rally, learning apparatus, reorganize, etc

[meager junco]

Oh

Right

[hasty hearth]

if anything if chizuru is a offensive type like kayron that's actually quite bad class type

cuz psionic don't have good buff/offensive type neutral cards

[meager junco]

So it's a rip from day 0 onwards

Skip it is then

[hasty hearth]

well assuming she's dps then sorta

[meager junco]

I mean, would have skipped anyways since I have rin for a dps which is also void

[hasty hearth]

depends on her kit and the new chaos that comes along with her which i would imagine would center around her style mainly

[meager junco]

So long as its void weak, rin will suffice for me

[hasty hearth]

honestly

kind of hope she is offensive and new chaos adds offensive options to psionic

cuz then that would make kayron better as well

[hollow ledge]

rei is pretty fun, just need to get her fragments so she can be beefier

[granite hull]

Should I rather pull yuki or her or skip both

[hasty hearth]

do u have khalipe?

[granite hull]

Hands are itching to pull tbf

[hasty hearth]

Id say wait until chizuru kit revealed

[mellow bolt]

skip yuki

[granite hull]

Yeah at lv10

[mellow bolt]

legit i dont know why i built half of these characters lol

i just do every content with the same team

[hasty hearth]

same

[mellow bolt]

and it's so easy lol

[granite hull]

Mei lin, hugo, vero and renoa are enough atm i think

[mellow bolt]

yep

this is the first game that the limited units are dogshit compared to standard banner lol

both haru and yuki are kind of whatever

[hasty hearth]

well technically no one is limited since they go into standard

[granite hull]

Hugo better for same element shred faster than yuki probably single target

People maincord say mei lin ruined the fun for coming banners, she's that op

[mellow bolt]

for single target ya

there is almost no way for them to powercreep her without using some gimmicks against taking actions

[granite hull]

I still haven't found her deck in both modes, still looking for it

[mellow bolt]

just need 2-3 of the move basics, and one of the rising dragon

and a good small vero deck to pair

my mei lin + vero + nia deck is only 14 cards total lol

[granite hull]

Yeah I am struggling with getting those

[mellow bolt]

youll get it

i wasnt getting anything for a long time

then i somehow got both back to back

btw what does that ep reroll skill do

since i unlocked it, i cant find how to use it

[hasty hearth]

mei lin is so op that i refuse to use her

havent cleared any of the bosses with her cuz it's just so stupid

[mellow bolt]

i dont even use her, i still just use my hugo tressa for everything and it's so easy

multi target, single target, everything just dies lol

i might not even pull anymore DPS until i can see them being more OP tbh

like yuki was such a pointless character to invest in for me

[hasty hearth]

since they said no units getting nerfed

they got to release content that counters these action heavy teams

which is fine by me cuz renoa doesnt need to spam actions

[mellow bolt]

i havent even used my renoa since i did 1 chaos with her and got a decent build

but ya renoa will be key for those anti action enemies in the future

i did 1 chaos with her and this is my only save data with her lol, seems good enough

[hasty hearth]

shit ballad epiph but rest is good

[mellow bolt]

wait really

what are you suppose to get

[hasty hearth]

100% extra damage on dirge bullet for 1 turn

[mellow bolt]

oh

i prob got that as an option

[hasty hearth]

u could also go for exhaust all dirge bullet in graveyard, but that would require different epiph on ur echo preferably

[hasty hearth]

perfect scenario is u use ballad on turn of reshuffling

then u use nia skill

then u just have 30 dirge bullets going off at once with the extra damage bonus

well perfect deck of renoa is giga aids to get

have to get 2 different epiphanied flowers

[mellow bolt]

ye

until there is an enemy that needs that, i m not even gonna bother with it lol

i think we're just chillin for awhile

[unkempt arrow]

Literally rerolls the order of your ep skills

Those ego skills in the left corner

Was almost peak

Ended up dying right b4 zone 2 boss tho

To the buffed up version of the vagina monster

[hasty hearth]

close to greatness

[unkempt arrow]

I would’ve won but the rules on that run were brutal as is

Can’t rest at safe zone
U lose a card a turn
-50% max hp

And he had the void buff

[hasty hearth]

if u had the right epiphany on the stray flower

[unkempt arrow]

So I lost a card AND he force a card use

[hasty hearth]

wouldve been done

then kayron can shrug off the dust hes collected from the bench

[unkempt arrow]

Which flower needs to be in stray again

On

[hasty hearth]

discard up to 2 +40% damage amount of next card

but it works on per cost of the card discarded

so u discard kayron 7 cost card

and voila

GIGA AMP

[unkempt arrow]

Ahhh

That makes her into a support hybrid too

To pull off the x3 flower tho it’s super difficult

U need to go all of zone 1 with no flower Epi

And dupe after boss 1

Then dupe the discard all at a dupe event or zone 2

[hasty hearth]

double any unique card with different epiphany is aids

got to get the card

[unkempt arrow]

Literally

[hasty hearth]

can't get epiphany on it until u clone it

[mellow bolt]

is there a button for it?

i dont see it

[hasty hearth]

then got to get right epiphany on both

[unkempt arrow]

It’s parallel to the ego skills

That button with the shuffle card

Same place ud redo turns

[unkempt arrow]

So dumb

My dumbass thought that ep reroll was for epiphanies

Cuz yknow ego skills are called EGO SKILLS

But ep skill stands for Ego Point Skill

[hasty hearth]

if we could reroll epiphany guess it would be too easy

[lavish lark]

1 per run wouldnt hurt

[mellow bolt]

ah

[lavish lark]

1 per day more likely

[hasty hearth]

yeah could be future thing

[lavish lark]

just stop giving me random shit like 1 draw instead of the actual epiphanies

[mellow bolt]

ya when i found out it wasnt an epiphany reroll , i lost interest in the game a bit lol

[hasty hearth]

reroll epiphany would be nice, but whatever i get it they want more player playtime

just gimme content that actually requires different team

[unkempt arrow]

I’d still play but cmon

[hasty hearth]

aka i want to watch all the mei lin enjoyers despair

[unkempt arrow]

Let me reroll these skills

[hasty hearth]

then again wasnt there leak while back about like

double team chaos or something like that

where's that hello

[unkempt arrow]

Real

[lyric osprey]

Probably in 6 days

[hasty hearth]

doubt it they prob just add another new chaos and the galactic rift

[lyric osprey]

Also whos pulling for chizuru? Or people waiting for the other one

[lyric osprey]

I'd be down for another chaos

[lavish lark]

watch it be blue pot and everyone cries

zombie boss with mods will fk you up

[hasty hearth]

easy just get them both

[granite hull]

Draw 2?

[hasty hearth]

Left or middle both good yeah

[boreal axle]

man gated so hard by credits + promo materials

[balmy lion]

Next update is addressing this issue and we apparently will be getting refunded all the credits we burned through compared to the change

[hasty hearth]

Yeah now we only have to suffer potential hell

[meager junco]

?? is there an event ongoing?

before that i hit like 34k

and just now 2k back to normal lol

[hasty hearth]

is that what they mean by extra reward

[nocturne kelp]

Does haru need dupes?

[lavish lark]

only luke needs dupes

[nocturne kelp]

i thought renoa needs them as well?

[lavish lark]

she performs well without them

luke doesn't

[nocturne kelp]

and is luke the 5* or 4*

[lavish lark]

5

[nocturne kelp]

I see

still struggling to find what i like haha

i like the dot team with tressa hugo mika

but the turns take forever cus of the animations

is there someone that's very good and deal big bonks

thinking either beryl or haru but a lot of people dont like haru's playstyle

[lavish lark]

she needs a lot of AP to be efficient

so it limits her partners

[nocturne kelp]

yeah exactly

ap hungry

what team do you run?

[lavish lark]

I dont run a single team.. i just use whatever

[nocturne kelp]

i see i see whats ur fav?

[lavish lark]

has to be Tressa.. she carries hard

[nocturne kelp]

yeah im at dupe 3 for her as well

might just stick with whats working

[lavish lark]

im at E3 too

[nocturne kelp]

is there a guide somewhere that shows what potentials / cards to use?

[lavish lark]

honestly u just want 2 of the initiation shadow daggers

and she is pretty much set

[nocturne kelp]

what about potentials

[lavish lark]

then u remove her basics and that's all u need

[nocturne kelp]

yeah i think i got that

[lavish lark]

potentials dont do much for her

cause she has crit

[nocturne kelp]

oh i see

just max them i suppose

[lavish lark]

u want unique card dmg tho.. cause it boosts her daggers

[nocturne kelp]

her partners hugo + mika is fine?>

[lavish lark]

I dont have Hugo so can't tell

[nocturne kelp]

sounds good then

yeah

just stick with this

[lavish lark]

I'm a little tilted cause my last run was with Vero +2 supports.. and the last boss absorbed my ballista.. and I had like no attacks on my deck

for some reason.. ballista allways gets absorbed for me on that boss

so I'm not gonna try to solo dps vero anymore

also running Tressa Vero feels awful for chaos.. cause ballista will 99% of the times go on a target that is already dead by agony

[neat belfry]

does that 4pc void set increase agony damage or does only atk% and damage over time effect it?

[balmy lion]

No pierce on ballista?!

Blasphemy

[lavish lark]

huh? what are u on about

the last boss doesn't even have shield

[balmy lion]

Oh you mean the event chaos

[granite stump]

because its a fcking good game

[wise yew]

U faing nm250?

Cuz i am

[shut talon]

FA is the way

[wise yew]

Ayo?

Yeah just fa to t100k and call it

[granite stump]

[unkempt arrow]

Updated Vero Deck

[hollow ledge]

chat i couldn't get the second method :(

[lyric osprey]

[unkempt arrow]

Trying for better with Vero now ngl

It’s 1ap or bust cuz

I’m sick of Mika

[unkempt arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/a-certain-scientific-railgun-kuroko-shirai-head-smash-kuroko-shirai-gif-24053134

[trail lava]

that's still good

basically pot of greed

there wego

[unkempt arrow]

It’s not ap 1

[trail lava]

still more than enough to consistently cycle through your deck

[unkempt arrow]

But it’s not ap1

Ap1 is the only one that matters

U need to use Mika if u don’t have AP 1

[lyric osprey]

That to good wym

[unkempt arrow]

It’s not ap1

[mellow bolt]

So is it just this event chaos that sucks or all chaos

I don’t get epiphanies on half my cards

Now it’s just a slogfest trying to get the weekly chaos done in the event

[lyric osprey]

Had that issue happen to me a few times, but now I just remove most of the units im not building just to force it once I get to interior, also improved my likelihood of getting divine of the unit I want

[mellow bolt]

Yeh I did 4 runs this week for the event, and each run I got maybe 30% cards with an epiphany

But ya I guess only way is to force it

If it wasn’t for the 8000 points, I’d prob go back to doing regular chaos zero

[lyric osprey]

I feel you, I'm used to roguelike but running the same event with mediocre gear unless you build Yuki or some funky build with the new cards feel so mid

If at least the rate of forbidden cards weren't atrocious

[mellow bolt]

Yep exactly

I hope this isn’t their model forever

Like each chaos is designed pretty much for the newest unit

I have a feeling when this new thing opens up in the event, it’ll be a new chaos for Chizuru lol

[trail lava]

yeah even after the QoL changes they made its still hard to get ephis

[lyric osprey]

What I hate is doing tier 15 and get absolutely nothing rewarding from it. Mind you I use on average 200 refresh to just see one

And the affixes are horrendous too

Half the time it's can't rest + discard + Tyra or hp cut in half

[mellow bolt]

tier 15 wtf lol

ive never seen one of those

[hollow ledge]

170 point cap

[mellow bolt]

now once you get a tier 15 map, you just gotta go through 7 more layers of RNG to even get the right deck lol

[hollow ledge]

i choose life and settle for 12/13

[lyric osprey]

It's tier 14+nightmare mode on

[lyric osprey]

It's just not worth like you said here

If you use most calculator you can see that tier 12 nightmare is enough for most " reasonable build * anywys

[mellow bolt]

ya

and for me most of my teams are alrdy 90% minmaxed

that extra 10% is kind of not that motivating since all the end game content is a joke now lol

waiting for them to release the powercreep content so we can start grinding again

rn it's just mostly getting the weekly chaos done for the event

[charred citrus]

Ya chizuru/next lab waiting room :/

[lyric osprey]

Also knowing that forbidden are going to be added to normal lab later if I'm not mistaken make it even less appealing to over farm current event

Every time I get a good forbidden my run end up mid at best anyway.

[charred citrus]

Werd plus game is still young. Hopefully that two team chaos thing is real

[mellow bolt]

i m still tilted by the fact that EP reroll isnt epiphany reroll lol

doing a run and 10 minutes in and you get the wrong epiphany on the character you're farming just makes you want to quit the entire run lol

like at least 1 reroll a day would be nice

one can only pray for the future

[lavish lark]

so what does this do exactly

[charred citrus]

Haha it says ego tho

It’s small but there

[charred citrus]

Random debuffs I think. Like poisoned cards/ailment cards/random card use etc

[lyric osprey]

Really ?

Because that thing is very much a joke every time

[lyric osprey]

Doesn't make me want to quit I just quit

[lavish lark]

game fking sucks.. I couldn't copy a single card from her

didn't get the option in 3 chances

and in the same run.. look where the fking copies are

cause fk shadow reload right?

[lyric osprey]

Sueely BiS for when the agony 5* comes out

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

Oh wait she will have a agony catered chaos ans you will redo it later

[charred citrus]

5* Tressa coming too. Will have to redo then as well

But yea the copy rng is wack. Only thing you can do to change the odds is choose uniques when you can.

[lavish lark]

you cant copy uniques.. that's why the word exists

[hollow ledge]

let's see if we can triple it

[charred citrus]

Bro use brain.

You choose uniques bc they can’t be copied thus not selected improving the chance to get what you want.

It’s all you can do and yes it bricks other builds but you’re focusing on one anyway right. If it doesn’t land restart

[lavish lark]

u mean unique epiphanies

I feel like thats more rare than anything else

[charred citrus]

Ya only thing you can do to improve the rng

[lavish lark]

[charred citrus]

It’s lame

[lavish lark]

for a 2% increased chance to get what u want

[charred citrus]

I mean technically more depending when you get the extra event and what epis you have

[hollow ledge]

schizo run

the game is accurate in that if you praise the divine too much you end up being schizo

let's see how scuffed the decks are gonna be

[lyric osprey]

Look like what is going on in our mind as gacha player daily

[hollow ledge]

the fucking deck saved

i think having 4 schizo cards offset the luck

[hollow ledge]

the ballistas didn't kill it because fort stacks, but agony finished it off

.

This might actually be a big brain time

oh wait no, i noticed something. the original had its divine effect removed but the replicates kept it

who cares, the deck is still pretty much intact

[lyric osprey]

Agony though

Feel bad

[hasty hearth]

watch

smilegate fooled us all

chizuru actually agony support

@lyric osprey stocks goes up

[hasty hearth]

wheres my black friday packs in czn

[manic knot]

same they didn't put any for dna either

guess these companies don't want money

[hasty hearth]

seriously

im sure ull get some christmas outfit or something for DNA

[lyric osprey]

SURELY we already know her kit

Where are the dataminers from few weeks ago

[charred citrus]

Srsly and that pv was meh

Story cinematic was way better

[wise yew]

Never coming

[faint onyx]

FINALLY

I just wanted 3

But 4 will do

SURELY I can do the same with Mei right

[charred citrus]

lol did you get the good vital too?

[lavish lark]

u dont remove the basic healing on her tho.. u remove the basic attacks

[charred citrus]

Haha don’t stress him out.

[lavish lark]

kinda wild u get 3 copies of the same card.. meanwhile I can't get a single card to show up for mei lin

[austere wing]

I didn't know same upgrade card effect stacks and I'm lvl 51 lol

[charred citrus]

Yep yep 👍

Once you get the hang of comps, it’s basically about figuring out how each can stack the op bonuses in the game

[nocturne kelp]

so nyx for bp partner?

[charred citrus]

Yea bis

[hasty hearth]

at least ur mei lin got epiphanies mine didnt

remember when tier lists put nyx at bottom tier

actual monkeys

[faint onyx]

Yea I got the agony damage one

[faint onyx]

I know

[lavish lark]

cause its more dmg

[faint onyx]

I didn’t believe in the run

Cause it didn’t get epiny

I just copied the base one

And prayed in inner floor

[lavish lark]

with 2 shadow reloads, u get 2 daggers from the basic healing

[faint onyx]

That both would upgrade to healing dagger

And then I got the purple rock event

[faint onyx]

Dude I crashed out a few days ago farming for this

I couldn’t even get the right ephiney to show up for 5 runs

[hasty hearth]

stream for upcoming news dec 2nd

10 am utc tho gross

[nocturne kelp]

farming gear seems so aids

and take forever

does it make a huge difference?

[hollow ledge]

gear makes the difference between a 500 attack rin and a 1000 attack rin

[hasty hearth]

yeah gear adds lot of stats

and ofc it's aids

is there a gacha game where farming gear isnt aids

[granite hull]

Buy raw diamonds

[hasty hearth]

[meager junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3MfM_npLFQ

[nocturne kelp]

yeah it just takes a lot of energy

what food is the best?

[hasty hearth]

i havent used a food buff in forever lol

[mellow bolt]

are you still max refreshing

i stopped

i dont even know what to spend it on anymore lol

[hasty hearth]

no

[mellow bolt]

i m doing like 4 refreshes a day now and will prob go to 0 in a couple weeks

[hasty hearth]

yeah thats what im doing as well

[mellow bolt]

this last week i just used stamina to prep for the new character

[hasty hearth]

0 refreshes until character reveal then do like 4 a day

[mellow bolt]

yeh

we in chillin stage now

prob going forward, we only need to pull units at 1 copy or 3 copies if their dupes are OP

and no need to stam refresh

[hasty hearth]

yeah

i guess kind of like hoyo as well in that regard

just chill and play bit harder on each major patch

[mellow bolt]

yep

the thing i like about CZN is that there is no slog of unskippable story and tedious events like in hoyo games and wuwa

yet

i like that we can just get into the new gameplay right away for each season instead of 9 hours of unskippable nonsense

[hasty hearth]

wait i realized

her pv doesnt tell her element

what if we getting mega baited and she isnt void

[granite hull]

If she has decent kit, doesn't matter even with void element

[hasty hearth]

yeah but ive been farming void potential crystals

stream isnt until 1 day before the patch

if they say she isnt void.... oof

[granite hull]

That's just you gambling

I will do these post release

[hasty hearth]

well worst case i can just use them on renoa so not huge deal

[granite hull]

Do it right away

[hallow trout]

who tf told you euphina was void?

oh chizuru nvm

[hasty hearth]

smh end

the thanksgiving holidays already getting to him

[granite hull]

We also know the next banner after this is girl on the right

[hasty hearth]

sereniel yeah

cept i dont think anything was leaked about her in data mines right

[drifting flame]

Haven’t logged in fews days now

[simple stump]

bad migi

[hasty hearth]

yeah smh migi

[drifting flame]

Finishing work late and no WiFi at home

[simple stump]

my bedroom have wifi

[drifting flame]

Pay for my air tix

I come now

[simple stump]

sure DM me

[hallow trout]

nope just rei skin and rin skin?

[hasty hearth]

say what now rei skin and rin skin

[charred citrus]

Skins?

Beacon of hope lit?

Wtb new vero skin

[granite hull]

I also forget to login some days, hardly makes much difference

[granite hull]

Looks like more void

[mellow bolt]

purple squirt

[hasty hearth]

oh wasnt this the original rei look

[granite hull]

Rei ult does look pretty close but 3 more swords

[hallow trout]

yea but they might be bringing it back as a skin apparently

since its still in the files for some reason

[charred citrus]

Winning. Might mean more skins for others.