CZN gooner gang godz only

[hasty hearth]

No u don’t

Leave it like that

Who wants to stall

[unkempt arrow]

X2 iron wall x2 frost charge

[hasty hearth]

Yeah can they release chizaru as a vanguard

So I can have a new buff bot that maybe actually does something

[hasty hearth]

I DID IT

MEME KAYRON ONLINE

@unkempt arrow @charred citrus @lyric osprey check out that beauty

I did test it he doesn’t flail his arm over and over for each one the damage just stacks on top of itself

Unfortunate no 30 minute waiting for him to flick his hands

[unkempt arrow]

U finally did it

[hasty hearth]

Alright

Time to try this meme in king crab

We gonna stack a billion futility in deck

Then erase them all at once

Not gonna lie

It’s actually not that bad

[charred citrus]

lol

[hasty hearth]

The sustain is actually crazy

[charred citrus]

I’ll wait for the epic clip

[hasty hearth]

No epic clip here

Would need way too many turns to stack futility in grave

Also found out that the healing forbidden card doesn’t proc Tressa create shadow dagger

Was too good to be true

I still have never seen the 7 cost epiphany for kayron wtf game

[unkempt arrow]

Was almost gross man

So close

But it’s so hard to get epiphanies in here

[hasty hearth]

[unkempt arrow]

Pulv on Haru is good ngl

2ap

2 hit

1Draw

And 3 morale

Double mutant and I could get the gun to crank even harder

Cassius is hella good as well I didn’t know I was missing out like this

[charred citrus]

Yea some weird stuff doesn’t proc it despite it being healing

[charred citrus]

You can do some crazy stuff with him he’s just not ideal for pushing harder diff. That was my xp

But in sims. Crazy potential

Maybe having higher egos would feel better. His egos are strong. Only had him e2 when I ran him a ton

[unkempt arrow]

I understand wym with the trash cards but if u manipulate for the removal or conversion first it’s much better

[charred citrus]

Fasho

[hasty hearth]

Cassius the goat

[charred citrus]

If you like renoa you can do the craziest wombo combo with his shuffl epi and Nia ego

It’s actually absurd

[unkempt arrow]

“If I like Reona”

We are literally the Reona founders

People had Kayron over Reona until we came around

[charred citrus]

Bruh that typo is imprinted into your soul

[mellow bolt]

Almost got godroll on a vero for mei Lin but lost 2 pendants …

Been trying to farm this vero forever…this game doesn’t want me to have it

[lavish lark]

at least u didnt get any removal back

[mellow bolt]

Yeh it’s still kind of useable

If I get a third with a really small deck I can cycle it pretty fast

Won’t do any 150k+ Mei Lin turns but can do multiple 20k ones

[lavish lark]

also u lost 2 pendants? with divine epiphany too?

already trying decks for season 2?

[mellow bolt]

Ye

This is the third run I had that exact pendant and lost 2 copies of it

If I get it I can stop playing vero in chaos for good

But the game refuses to give me that deck

[lavish lark]

well.. that was a 190points build

[mellow bolt]

Wait really?

How does some ppl have multiple divine epiphany pendants like this? I’ve seen people with that deck

Seems impossible at 190 points

[lavish lark]

wait no. its 170

[mellow bolt]

Hmm

No wonder

Only way is to not remove the basics I guess

[lavish lark]

they probably use conversion

conversion can take 30 points off

[mellow bolt]

Oh whattt

Damn

[lavish lark]

3 removals = 100 points

2 removals and 1 conversion = 60 points

• the neutral card which would make it 80

[mellow bolt]

Hmm tbh I could try and keep the 2 basic attacks in for vero next time

They aren’t that bad

[lavish lark]

if u get mutant sample.. it would be 50 points total

for 2 removals and 1 conversion

[lavish lark]

just keep in mind the third removal is 50 points.. that's a lot

so try to convert the last one.. or keep 1 of the basics

[mellow bolt]

In that same vero build I got this yuki , 5 self draws without any neutrals lol

Tbh I don’t know how to build a yuki, I’ve tried so many things on her and she seems mid no matter what

[lavish lark]

neutrals are expensive.. we figured out today that divine epiphany on a neutral card is +30

let me give u an example

[mellow bolt]

Ya I’ll prob try and keep a basic cause I don’t trust those conversion events

They brick my build more often than help it

Hmm why can’t I see this image

[lavish lark]

huh?

[mellow bolt]

It won’t load for me lol

[lavish lark]

does that one load?

[mellow bolt]

Oh there we go

[solemn yacht]

you need to do serum removal. that makes the 3 basic removal only cost 50 points. That shaves it down to 90 points. two copies (10)+ 2 divine epiphanies is 140 points

Just farmed a solid Hugo build.

[lavish lark]

I'm honestly not grinding until I get my epiph reroll on sunday

[solemn yacht]

what epiph reroll?

ego skill reroll?

[lavish lark]

its epiph no? i dont have the game open right now

from research

[solemn yacht]

ego skill

epiph reroll would make the game really boring really fast

[thick relic]

Almost perfect run!

[lavish lark]

and u didn't even remove the shield ?

[thick relic]

I did, game put it back

[lavish lark]

also.. why doesn't ur DPS have a weapon?

[thick relic]

Didn't get one of the draw wpns to show

[charred citrus]

She starts to shine when you can stack multipliers. Stuff like this

Focus less on trickery strike and aim for more subdues. Add one flash or iceberg depending on if you get a good flash epi

Can lead to silly 1cost like

Also nifty tip is if it says ‘vulnerable to target’ and it lands on one of her aoe cards that epi will vuln everything

[mellow bolt]

Wait how does the % increase like that

Oh all the multipliers included

[trail lava]

So close

[meager junco]

Do i build tressa with crit IV or ATK%?

[hollow ledge]

i could use a magna

[granite hull]

Magna is not that good anyway

Being magnaless is fine

[hollow ledge]

The only agents I don't have is Hugo, Khalipe and Magna

[granite hull]

Other 2 way better if you are planning to use the selector

[hollow ledge]

I already used it

On Renoa

which i didn't have at the time

[granite hull]

Renoa is good option but hugo would have been better

Yet to test khalipe

[hollow ledge]

well if i do get hugo i have his bis partner

i didn't have the partner when i got renoa

i was testing the standard partner banner after i used the selector and i got her like 4 single pulls into it

[granite hull]

Fair

[hollow ledge]

I'm going to bump a few people to 40 so i can get more pulls

Lucas Rei and maybe Yuki

[cold acorn]

Czn..

[hasty hearth]

How dare u can u believe this guy @unkempt arrow

[granite hull]

Telling from experience after using renoa as main carry then later building hugo w/ teressa

Next working on mei lin now

[hasty hearth]

Clearly didn’t do the 600k damage 1 turn renoa

Smh

[granite hull]

Yeah i don't

[hasty hearth]

Dang l09 really living up to his name

9 L’s

First Hugo now Mei Lin

[granite hull]

I just got these units late

[hasty hearth]

Fair

[hollow ledge]

According to the leaks the only Passion healer I saw was Arthur

[mellow bolt]

When he comes out, Mei Lin 300k turns lol

[hollow ledge]

does he have a kit

[mellow bolt]

No clue

@hasty hearth I’m playing czn in public here, do you think the Koreans will recognize it lol

Wasn’t it a big drama here

[hollow ledge]

do you have a team with owen and mika?

[hasty hearth]

Oh true should go for those random achievements like clear with full single attribute team

[hollow ledge]

I already did the passion one

i think i can reasonably do the justice one

order though, i only have luke, yuki and amir

and only luke is built

[hasty hearth]

Clean but not maximum potential

[unkempt arrow]

They want me to lose so bad lmfaoo

-50% max hp
Can’t Rest at safe zones
And they get 2 fury every turn
Now I’m fighting this

And it’s a fire Mei Lin run too

For the first time

[hasty hearth]

Aren’t u the one who went in that tho

[unkempt arrow]

And ofc this is the one I get a half ass decent Mei deck in

She freaking mind broke after copying cards

And I couldn’t rest it off

I clutched through this fight barely lmfaooo

Just to finally die fight b4 dreams

[hasty hearth]

Feelsbadman

[unkempt arrow]

So tilting

Of course this would be the freaking run I starting getting good RNG for her

All I needed was the epip on the upgrade

This Vero deck doesn’t have her unique lol

Keeping it ngl

[lyric osprey]

Still solid

[granite hull]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/karenteosg_googleplaybestof-googleplay-gamedev-ugcPost-7396711781773144065-pE-c?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAADnrGQEBKcuetcuGQSwxp2apgaywkD1okOk tcg goty

[hollow ledge]

pokermon

[lyric osprey]

Did anyone post that yet ?

https://rentry.co/f2pbtw

For @hasty hearth

[meager junco]

asssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

also damn just noticed its dripping....

[charred citrus]

Smh

The liquid is too much lmao

Meanwhile beryls sister lookin better and better. Was she 4* leaked? I forget

[charred citrus]

[hasty hearth]

wtf why am I being tagged for this

[charred citrus]

lol gooner god history

I can already picture the animations being wild for yufina. Death by 1k dicks

[hasty hearth]

[hasty hearth]

Da fuq this guy calling me gooner god

[charred citrus]

lol it’s obv what they’re going for. I’m just stating the obvious, 0 thirst.

I didn’t realize almost all of these leaks are 4*.

Her + Camila. Rest are leaked 4’s

[hasty hearth]

Ur forgetting euphina and milia

[charred citrus]

Bruh it was literally in your handle when I joined this thread!

[charred citrus]

Hmm hopefully this is wrong then.

Maybe 4* support is going to be there thing. And the part 3 chick will be temporary bis before elemental team content

Milia still lookin clean. Hopefully she isn’t trash

[hasty hearth]

Da fuq they must have updated it was definitely 5* before

[unkempt arrow]

Got a good Cassius deck

It was better b4 but I got greedy

Took a 4th gear bag

[hasty hearth]

All the op controller 4* meanwhile orlea suffering as only SSR controller and mediocre

[charred citrus]

lol orlea has her niche tho

[unkempt arrow]

Orlea is amazing idk wym

She isn’t op but definitely above average

[charred citrus]

That softie buff thing being multiplicative makes her solid with enough turns

[hasty hearth]

She is solid buffer

[unkempt arrow]

The only below average unit in this game is Yuki

[hasty hearth]

Ello?

[unkempt arrow]

Below to mid if anything

[hasty hearth]

Magna

[charred citrus]

I disagree lol

[unkempt arrow]

Magna has a good build

[charred citrus]

Ya there are def worse performers

[unkempt arrow]

Nah I disagree

[hasty hearth]

What’s magna good build

Apply 8 vuln?

[unkempt arrow]

Pair her with Beryl and Orlea

X2 Iron X2 frost and aoe glacier

[hasty hearth]

Okay so it is vuln

[unkempt arrow]

Pretty much and buffing

[hasty hearth]

U can do that with khalipe too tho

[unkempt arrow]

Not as good tho

[hasty hearth]

Debatable I mean it’s a slow comp anyway which is already

[unkempt arrow]

Man

This Yuki defending is whatever

Mid is mid

[hasty hearth]

No I agree with yuki being mid

[unkempt arrow]

If u try to make her break past anything over T2

Ur delusional

[hasty hearth]

But I think magna is mid as well

[charred citrus]

She has the best aoe in game

[unkempt arrow]

If u argue Magna mid

That fine

[charred citrus]

Yet is worse than other 5* who need egos to do well in chaos?

[unkempt arrow]

She’s the only aoe in the game

That’s the only reason

[charred citrus]

Sry I can’t support that. You got blinders on

[hasty hearth]

Yuki damage is so Fkin mediocre

[unkempt arrow]

Thank you

[hasty hearth]

Too much effort for too little

[unkempt arrow]

U need to do way too much

[charred citrus]

I legit went 18-0 through diff 11

[unkempt arrow]

For that sorry ass dmg

[charred citrus]

And she’s mid? Thats cap fasho

[unkempt arrow]

Just because she can do a chaos or decent dif

So can everyone else

Doesn’t matter when she’s ass

[charred citrus]

Like I said you got blinders on ma dude. No point arguing.

[unkempt arrow]

This is her performing in her best possible scenarios and she’s mid

[unkempt arrow]

Where u ranking her then????

[hasty hearth]

Yuki is mid imo if u think slightly above average sure that’s fine

[charred citrus]

I consider e0 luke rin below her fasho

[unkempt arrow]

Bruh

Yuki at E0

[hasty hearth]

But I am definitely not gonna call her top tier or heck even “good” is a long stretch

[unkempt arrow]

Is just as sorry as them

At e0

Matter fact E0 Rin

Performs better

[charred citrus]

She right below the top dps mei Hugo renoa mainly bc her aoe is strong

[hasty hearth]

What u mean

[unkempt arrow]

So where is that ranked

[hasty hearth]

Problem is we don’t need aoe currently if they released shit that actually required good aoe then sure

[charred citrus]

If mei renoa hugo are ss

I’d put her at her s

[hasty hearth]

Besides renoa is technically a stronger aoer

[unkempt arrow]

U have Yuki at tier 0.5 then

[hasty hearth]

Let me know when something survives 11k per dirge bullet

[unkempt arrow]

I just can’t agree with that

My Yuki is literally E4

And geared out the ass

She sucks ass

[charred citrus]

If you say so man

[unkempt arrow]

I’m dragging it sure

She’s mid at best tho imo

I just can’t support her being that high

U could argue Tier 1.5 I guess

I say tier 2

[charred citrus]

Too many questions and it’s not worth. Ive avoided this convo mainly bc i dont wanna peddle misconceptions

[unkempt arrow]

She isn’t as bad as Amir

We all are experienced my guy

No misconceptions will happen here

[hasty hearth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1p0xmex/62k_dmg_with_buffer_renoa/ yeah let me know when yuki can out “aoe” this

[charred citrus]

But often ppl will say something is ass and not even use the unit to its strengths so

[unkempt arrow]

The reason I’m ranking her t2 is because

We are in an era where u can put her strengths on display to the fullest

And she’s a far cry from being the best at the one job she has

Reona can out aoe her

With no aoe

[hasty hearth]

Well I think main issue with yuki is there is no need for aoe

[unkempt arrow]

Literally

[hasty hearth]

What content requires yuki

Literally nothing

[unkempt arrow]

They literally had to decrease the hp on the mobs in seasonal

[charred citrus]

What content requires renoa? Literally worse than Hugo and mei lol

[unkempt arrow]

So she could consistently kill them

Reona can support her teammates tho

Yuki is a selfish unit

[charred citrus]

So can many units

[hasty hearth]

Renoa has more uses than Yuki lol

[unkempt arrow]

Yuki can’t

[charred citrus]

Difference is some struggle with aoe packs in chaos

And others do not.

[unkempt arrow]

Reona doesn’t

[charred citrus]

All of the cases you can mention are ones I rank her lower than

[unkempt arrow]

Because I don’t rank Reona T0 even as a Reona Stan

She’s 0.5

Yuki is nowhere near as potent as Reona is

[hasty hearth]

I mean if u want to argue that Yuki is good if someone doesn’t own khalipe (aoe) then sure since u can get guaranteed Yuki if I don’t have khalipe

[charred citrus]

You’re literally spitting hairs

[unkempt arrow]

How tho

I’m not going out of my way to claim her as bad

[charred citrus]

0.5 is splitting hairs lmao

Anyways it’s fine you don’t like her

[unkempt arrow]

Reona being 0.5????

How

lol

[hasty hearth]

Still trying to figure out why malki thinks Yuki is so good

Like I won’t call Yuki trash but I def don’t think she’s great

[charred citrus]

I literally already framed 3 units better than her. Then you splitting hairs about one being a different fraction of better

[unkempt arrow]

Playing 30+ cards for 10k must be nice

Because

That’s what it is?

Hugo Mei and Haru are all better than Reona

U can’t tier Reona with them

But Reona is one step away from being as good as them

[charred citrus]

Listen constantly downplaying a unit that has obv strengths is just silly to me

[hasty hearth]

Isn’t the opposite just as bad if not worse? She has aoe we all here know that

[unkempt arrow]

Where are you displaying these “ strengths”

[hasty hearth]

But she ain’t worth the trouble imo

[unkempt arrow]

^

even folks that have her E6

Regret the E6

[charred citrus]

I mean those are your opinions sure but objectively her aoe is the strongest

[unkempt arrow]

Idk what we arguing about rn

[charred citrus]

And she can perform better than others when you know what youre doing

[unkempt arrow]

If u somehow found a use case for it good i guess

[hasty hearth]

I mean

[unkempt arrow]

“When u know what ur doing” like if u don’t hand the exact same team to like 60% of other units they won’t outshine her

[hasty hearth]

When u say “her aoe is strongest” when technically there’s only 1 other aoer

That isn’t much competition

[unkempt arrow]

And Khalipe has way more use

So idk

[charred citrus]

Fuck Khalipe

Boring ass deck and unit

[unkempt arrow]

Dang

[charred citrus]

Her dmg pales in comparison

[unkempt arrow]

And Yuki is fun??? Lmfaoo

[hasty hearth]

I agree with malki on that khalipe deck is boring

[charred citrus]

Literally if you wanna play with training wheels

Go shill khalippe

[unkempt arrow]

U have to play 40+ cards to do halfass dmg

And I agree there too

[hasty hearth]

But either way

[unkempt arrow]

Khal is boring

[charred citrus]

40+? Literally you can do shit like this one turn 1

[hasty hearth]

I mean I won’t disagree with ur statement of “strongest aoe” but there isn’t exactly competition

[hasty hearth]

[charred citrus]

But she’s mid?

1 cost?

[unkempt arrow]

And what was the dmg there lol

[charred citrus]

Gtfo. Be reasonable

2700 aoe 1 ap

lol

[unkempt arrow]

[hasty hearth]

We trying to talk about a 1 cost 1000%

When the renoa I linked

[charred citrus]

All I’m saying is if you’re gonna constantly peddle something as mid choose something like e0 Luke

[unkempt arrow]

Click this

[hasty hearth]

Was 4k% dirge bullet

0 cost

[charred citrus]

Bc e0 luke is mid

Fasho

I’ve driven that multiplier to 1600% but we’re not comparing 1 cost st to aoe are we?

[unkempt arrow]

Yuki E0 and him

Are on the same tier

Both at E2 tho

Luke is better

It’s not even close

[charred citrus]

Agreed

[hasty hearth]

Technically I would consider dirge bullet pseudo aoe

But let’s be real here

In any aoe room pack

[charred citrus]

You would consider it whatever fits your argument bro

[hasty hearth]

Who’s surviving 11k single dirge bullet

[unkempt arrow]

Khalipe

[charred citrus]

Pseudo aoe is some cope

[unkempt arrow]

[hasty hearth]

I mean before this whole thing I already said before renoa is pseudo aoe

[charred citrus]

Her mechanic has broken st and it works well vs 3 packs

[unkempt arrow]

Would I consider Reona pseudo aoe? Probably not ngl

She’s just good at fighting groups

[charred citrus]

Anyways none of us don’t understand the op stuff behind mei renoa Hugo

[hasty hearth]

Well that’s what “pseudo aoe” literally means

Fake aoe

[unkempt arrow]

Fake aoe is more fitting

I mean if u somehow enjoy her power to u tho

Cuz I can’t see what makes u rank her so high

And I have her E4

[faint onyx]

Chat I think my Tressa is bugged. The get dagger on heal doesn’t exist. I reset 4x by now and it doesn’t pop up

[hasty hearth]

I mean I agree with all the points malki has about Yuki

[charred citrus]

I rank her the same tier as rin etc

[hasty hearth]

Just he thinks she’s good and I think she’s less good

[unkempt arrow]

That’s the funny part

I don’t disagree with him either

But my viewpoint on the info

Is very different

[hasty hearth]

Yeah literally only thing I disagree with is “how good” she is

[winter gull]

ever since they changed Cassius shuffle im struggling to make renoa work, nia just doesnt feel the same i feel like nia is useless for like 80% of the chaos run

[hasty hearth]

Literally it

[unkempt arrow]

Exactly

[winter gull]

im sad

[unkempt arrow]

Nia is there for the ego

[faint onyx]

^

[unkempt arrow]

Just spam Nia Curiousity card

In the deck

[hasty hearth]

Cassius still works great

[faint onyx]

She exist to deck manipulate and use ego that’s it

[hasty hearth]

Just not the broken stuff

But I agree

Nia

[winter gull]

so yall just get as many nia curiosity cards as possible?

[hasty hearth]

Hot fkin garbage in chaos

[faint onyx]

Yes

She’s a curiosity bot

[winter gull]

and when tons of bullets in draw pile

nia ult

[faint onyx]

Yes

[hasty hearth]

If ur talking about Nia with renoa

[winter gull]

got it

[hasty hearth]

Then no

[unkempt arrow]

I agree with Nia being hot ass in chaos

[hasty hearth]

All u need is her ego skill

That’s literally bout it

[faint onyx]

Farming for a usable Nia deck was cancer

Her heal is actually abysmal

[hasty hearth]

If anything

[charred citrus]

Her and cass play the same. Gotta deal with above avg amt of dead cards but can work

[unkempt arrow]

U could even try to drop Nia to a 2 card deck

[hasty hearth]

U want something like this

[faint onyx]

But once you thin her deck to just draw and deck manipulate it’s good

[winter gull]

what makes her ego so good , isnt it just 1 round of bullet hit

[charred citrus]

Let’s you double use bullets

[hasty hearth]

It’s old shuffle

[unkempt arrow]

U literally reset ur hand

[hasty hearth]

It discards ur entire deck

[winter gull]

that just makes me realize how broken old shuffle was

[unkempt arrow]

And go old western on the enemy

[hasty hearth]

So u proc all ur bullets in deck

[charred citrus]

Yea super fun

She just has like 4-5 dead cards depending on your dps

[winter gull]

i see, today im going to try again

[charred citrus]

So

[winter gull]

to make nia deck

[unkempt arrow]

Nias entire deck is a dead hand almost

Most cards are ass lol

[faint onyx]

She’s a good replacement on Haru/Khal as well since she just searches for Anchor cards

^

[winter gull]

im just trying to beat seasonal chaos on difficulty 11

but last boss is DPS check

and i never have enough

[faint onyx]

Diff11 is sweat trap

Elites hit for 1.5K+

[hasty hearth]

U want something like this

As many adagio as possible with that forbidden card

[winter gull]

last time i left the boss 3k hp with my hugo tressa mika

[hasty hearth]

Turns Nia into an ap battery + good drawer

[faint onyx]

Yeah the boss now actually hurts

People saying he was easy all of preseason

[unkempt arrow]

The only reason it’s giving some ppl trouble now is because it’s not mist

It’s seasonal

[hasty hearth]

What u mean no one said lvl 11 was easy

It only came because the previous cap of 8 was too easy

[unkempt arrow]

If this was mist Hugo Tressa Mika looks at him and he’s dead

Mei Vero Mika whoops him too

Ur Mei needs decent rng tho unfortunately

If u don’t get the right card

Just reset

Ur not winning

[hasty hearth]

Sounds like Mei Lin every chaos run

[lyric osprey]

[charred citrus]

Just gotta prepare for it. Pickup what single target you can from shops etc to add on to what epis you get

[unkempt arrow]

W Beryl

[charred citrus]

I’ve always had to forget about building decks on those runs. Just focus debuffs/buffs/dmg bc you’re so starved

[unkempt arrow]

Literally

Not being able to rest

With 50% Less hp

Against stuff slinging 800+ everywhere

[hasty hearth]

But u chose to do that sir can’t blame anyone but urself

[charred citrus]

Yea 8/9 are cakewalks for deck building.

[lyric osprey]

I can relate to that ^

[hasty hearth]

[unkempt arrow]

Absolute nightmare

[charred citrus]

11 for masochism.

[winter gull]

i just realized i still havent pick my selector

[unkempt arrow]

I WAS WINNING UNTIL THE END

[hasty hearth]

U only do 11 for first time reward

[unkempt arrow]

U don’t own Mei so

There u go

[hasty hearth]

Maybe if they upped it to save data 20 or something

[unkempt arrow]

Or wait I guess

[unkempt arrow]

Real

After the first clear

Went back to 8

[winter gull]

yea maybe i should get mei lin

[hasty hearth]

But probably not good idea

[winter gull]

🤔

[hasty hearth]

Cuz u can’t just bring anything into 11

[unkempt arrow]

U can bring the chars that matter tho

[hasty hearth]

I mean true

But people would be mad

[unkempt arrow]

True

[hasty hearth]

What do u mean I can’t kayron it

[winter gull]

i still need to beat 11 this renoa better make it work

[unkempt arrow]

“Why is Amir so bad in diff 11”

[winter gull]

[unkempt arrow]

I’m one Kayron dupe away

[hasty hearth]

I did it with renoa but I wouldn’t recommend it

[unkempt arrow]

From getting Bria with my selector

[winter gull]

my only 2 dps are renoa and hugo

[unkempt arrow]

Reona Cassius Mika can do it

Or Reona Vero Mika

[hasty hearth]

Don’t do it

[charred citrus]

Lot of teams can do it. Just can’t slack on anything rly

[unkempt arrow]

Why

[hasty hearth]

Unless ur embracing the machine gun

[unkempt arrow]

[hasty hearth]

Then sure join me for the memes

[charred citrus]

And easier with certain DPS bc of their kit

[unkempt arrow]

I wanna lowkey just go meta ron ngl

And believe in the one man army

[charred citrus]

Gl with that lol

I hated his ass in chaos

[hasty hearth]

One man army? Yeah like after 20 turns maybe

[unkempt arrow]

[charred citrus]

0 Bria and not e3 tho

[unkempt arrow]

Ima have E3 and Bria

Might be able to pop off in like

3-4 turns

Instead of 30

[hasty hearth]

I have Bria

E0

[charred citrus]

I bet you will reset everytime you get wrong vanity

[hasty hearth]

Still ass in chaos

[unkempt arrow]

Sure will

[hasty hearth]

Vanity? Nah black hole

Needs the machine gun hands

[unkempt arrow]

I mean without E3 he is cope ngl

Least in chaos

[hasty hearth]

Look at that beauty

[charred citrus]

He’s going machine gun in diff 11?

Haha I saw

[hasty hearth]

I don’t recommend it

Unless u want to do 100 turn memes

[charred citrus]

Can’t survive

I see the late vanity fail being rage inducing for Cyk

[hasty hearth]

The sustain is actually quite good

[unkempt arrow]

I just want Reona dupes

[hasty hearth]

Should totally do some degenerate turn 100 Judas

[unkempt arrow]

How my Reona isn’t E2 yet

Is a miracle

[hasty hearth]

Do like 5 million damage in 1 turn

And then tell the world he’s op

[unkempt arrow]

[winter gull]

judas just dies to my tressa agony

[charred citrus]

Tressa is f2p boss god ya

[hasty hearth]

Fk Tressa

@lyric osprey

[charred citrus]

I played her too much

I use Haru on this acct

[hasty hearth]

Gotta make sure to tag roswall while I beat his waifu down

[charred citrus]

Combo bonks with twin swords/pulverize

Hey she got the best wallpaper

[hasty hearth]

DoT being strong in pve game who could’ve possibly seen that coming

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-daring-today-spongebob-spongebob-meme-daring-today-arent-we-gif-23808696

[charred citrus]

And two op teams

Well so many games nerf dot

Not this one tho

[hasty hearth]

Is there a gacha game where DoT isn’t strong pve?

[charred citrus]

Been awhile for me but lot of games I rem have strict dot caps

This one is to the moon

[hasty hearth]

I don’t think they can even release another dot character

[charred citrus]

Camila

[hasty hearth]

How do u outdo Tressa 0 cost machine gunning agony

[charred citrus]

Apparently 5* Tressa

She might end up worse lol

[hasty hearth]

I mean

Just pair them up together then

Devs might just make bosses immune to agony from then on

And then roswall goes crying in a corner when that happens

[charred citrus]

Seems silly to release her as is. It’s like copy pasta 5* Tressa

Design wise

[hasty hearth]

Da fuq

She really is just 5* Tressa if that’s what her kit is

[charred citrus]

Subject to change but yea zzzz

[hasty hearth]

It’s like

Mix of Tressa + renoa/kayron with the evil knife in deck thing

[charred citrus]

It’s a fine line

[hasty hearth]

Until they hit us with the plot twist

Evil knife is 1 cost

[charred citrus]

See if they can make her “feel” unique enough

[hasty hearth]

Making her trash

[charred citrus]

lol

[hasty hearth]

[charred citrus]

So true

Or “generates less than tressa” daggers

They’re adding another mechanic you gonna hate

[hasty hearth]

Don’t think anyone can generate more agony than Tressa

Especially thanks to her cards

[charred citrus]

Instead of counterattack

It’s shock - deal %fixed dmg
When hit

[hollow ledge]

not the best result

[hasty hearth]

That’s way better than counter

[hollow ledge]

90 points because i converted a card. normally removing all basics is 100

[charred citrus]

I mean it’s so similar

Makes me zzzz

[hasty hearth]

I can be proactive with shock

Counter is purely jerk off

[charred citrus]

Shock stacks counter stacks it feels meh

[hasty hearth]

Like u know the room where there’s 4 tower things and all they do is countdown to explode

LUL NICE MAGNA VALUE

[charred citrus]

I appreciate the diff flavor. She does have more vuln epis

But yea lackluster mech

[hasty hearth]

Depending how many shock u can apply

It’s just free damage amp for like

Luke*

[charred citrus]

It’s just free hits when they attack you

[hasty hearth]

If commence the hunt procs it as well that could be good with hugo too

[charred citrus]

Some cards apply shock to all or st shock

[hasty hearth]

But e0 luke

[charred citrus]

Them attacking you procs it

[hasty hearth]

So rip me

[hollow ledge]

now begins the quest of making another drone bombing deck

[hasty hearth]

Can I get 2 Luke dupes game

I want to build him he looks fun

[hollow ledge]

He's fun

I'm building his bro now

[unkempt arrow]

Bruh

We forever stuck in the gold mines

In this game

[hasty hearth]

Yup

[hollow ledge]

units*

[hasty hearth]

Fkin units man

[unkempt arrow]

I lowkey feel like I can’t even spend stam on anything else

[hasty hearth]

I’m either farming units or potential material

[unkempt arrow]

I wanna farm gear

[hollow ledge]

it's easier getting memory fragments than """enough""" units

[unkempt arrow]

And regear my Khalipe

[simple stump]

WHYYYYY

[unkempt arrow]

Cuz she’s not reaching 700attack

On crit

[simple stump]

those stats on wrong set

[unkempt arrow]

It’s just not happening

[simple stump]

whyyy!!!

[hasty hearth]

So true what a fked up node

I mean Veronica too I guess needs 1100 attack for max value from node right

[unkempt arrow]

They purposefully don’t want u running her with passion dmg %

Or ego recovery tbh

[hasty hearth]

Still not as fked up as 60% crit on renoa

Fkin devs

[unkempt arrow]

I’m so close to 60%

I just need to farm potential

[hollow ledge]

why am i not surprised

I haven't used Orlea since she's not built enough

[charred citrus]

She can reach 1100 in chaos at least…

[charred citrus]

We got some ppl here with mad orleas lmao

Like 3/4 dupes

[hollow ledge]

what's her dupe breakpoint

[charred citrus]

Dunno I rem thinking her egos were kinda avg

Useful but not 🔥

[hollow ledge]

i guess retain on another card is useful when she's built around retain mechanic

retain on a card that activates retain on other cards + does heal

might try her out once she's raised properly.

[unkempt arrow]

Made a good stat stick piece

[charred citrus]

She’s solid. Just make use of softie and toughie situation

[hollow ledge]

wait

Does Beryl's upgrade work only with her retain cards?

I know it works with Hidden Bullet if she owns it since it's retain

[charred citrus]

She works well with beryl

All retain mechanics she can amp

[hollow ledge]

So Beryl extra attacks with ANY retain?

[charred citrus]

Nah I’m saying orlea can trigger retain fx on her cards

[hollow ledge]

Or is it just her retain?

I know orlea triggers retain effects on Beryl's cards

I was asking about Beryl's extra attack upgrade, if Orlea's cards with the retain tag also count

[meager junco]

beryl only triggers her extra on her retain

[hollow ledge]

I figure it has to be her cards

[meager junco]

but orlea triggers ALL retain in hand

[hollow ledge]

It would've been braindead if she used other combatant retains to extra

[charred citrus]

Says owned cards. So just hers yea.

[hollow ledge]

So basically Orlea can speed up the big hit charge shot

Neat

[hasty hearth]

I’m not sure if all nodes are the same but at least for renoa u need main stat screen crit to be 60% not whatever it is in battle

[charred citrus]

Yea I’m not positive either. I think if it’s like that for renoa then that’s likely the case. Pre-entry stats

[worldly ingot]

Just rolled this for Tressa

[hasty hearth]

Stop ur making @lyric osprey as wet as the pacific with that

[nocturne kelp]

AM I TOO LATE TO START

i know its nevr too late but am i too late

[manic knot]

Single player game what is late

[jaunty orchid]

You're starting with all your gem income intact on potential powercreep

Never too late

Acc prob go cheap anyway

(I said that but I didn't start yet either)

[nocturne kelp]

you're late

[hasty hearth]

What the

[trail lava]

almost 1 shotted 9/9 event boss

[solemn yacht]

tbh if your buying a well rerolled account its usally better to start later than earlier haha

[hasty hearth]

Standard snooze Mei Lin

[plain breach]

This monster card is so op

[solemn yacht]

One thing I like about this game is that if you fail to get anything good after gridning a bunch of chaos

at least you can dismatle your save data for some units haha. its like a consolation prize

[lavish lark]

yeah its great to get 3 times 1k units.. and to do anything it costs 40k+

[hasty hearth]

U call it a consolation prize I call it a punch to the nuts

[meager junco]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1owkh12/just_like_e7_they_way_they_put_clothing_on_is_on/

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth they’re promoting it everywhere

[meager junco]

that aint CZN tho 😄 isnt that star savior?

[mellow bolt]

Ya

Miracle biggest fan boy

[hollow ledge]

maribell shelter mk 2 saved my life

i was going to get obliterated last turn, meanwhile the humble shield-generating attack

i keep forgetting that in his second phase the mega attack triggers at the start of the turn

[hasty hearth]

Da fuq

Well guess they have to they only let like 300 people in the beta

[hollow ledge]

amir done dirty she even got her butt stolen

[hasty hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-ogres-have-layers-you-get-it-onions-have-layers-gif-15744640

[nocturne kelp]

How’s the dailies

Is it fast or more main game

[hasty hearth]

For czn? Fast dailies themselves is like less than 5 min

[nocturne kelp]

okay so what account should i look for

[hasty hearth]

If ur trying to buy I guess safe bets are ones with khalipe + whoever else ur interested in

[mellow bolt]

Buying an account in this is like buying an account in Tetris

Just use whatever you want, and you can beat the game

[nocturne kelp]

can beat with straight blocks

which makes it ez

yk

[meager junco]

ya just go get ur best looking hot waifus or husbandos and go with it

ofc team building is a thing still

cant place 3 dps in there and expect to steam roll 😄

[hasty hearth]

How dare u talk smack about my Mika, Cassius, Nia team

[lyric osprey]

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239

[next jolt]

Huge

is this sg?? They are too responsive to feedback

[tacit oxide]

Hope they don’t actually bend over their back too much. Responsive is good but appeasing isn’t.

[hollow ledge]

Fucking huge

[hollow ledge]

🙏

can't wait to get at least 2 million unit compensation

[meager junco]

im still waiting for my missing 200k plus 50k that got deducted from my account

for completing lvl 10 newbie mission thing

[worthy raft]

Also yuki mentioned at the end , so she will get some adjustment for for easier build transition to single target build

[echo nymph]

honestly really good update

cost reduction was needed

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth see I told you this would happen

I wasn’t expecting them to refund us units though that’s huge

[meager junco]

i dont like this

yes a cut was needed as its realy expensive but -80%

i fear for the longevity of this game

with the changes they have made and the freebies given so far

if i can max my box within a month and have abundance of materials, what am i playing for in the long run

like it would have been fine to reduce cost by 30-40% if at most tbh

[static crescent]

Maybe its us paying back by

More units

Or more ways to spend resource.

[meager junco]

so long as ppl still whale and the devs dont go broke i guess...

[mellow bolt]

Wait this patch is insane

Dupes beyond max dupes gives a new currency

And they do it retroactively

Thank god

[unkempt arrow]

This cut is welcome by me

80% is perfectly fine

Cuz this gives many the opportunity to actually farm other stuff

Potential and gear still exist

And their values are unchanged

[lyric osprey]

People want to play with multiple units anyway

[unkempt arrow]

Exactly

[lyric osprey]

Gating us with exp was dumb to getting with we already starving for credit

And there potential and gear no need to also farm exp on top of it

[unkempt arrow]

^^^^^^

I’d rather be able to max at least a team a month

Vs a char a month

Cmon now

[lyric osprey]

Now I'll be able to try more stuff.

[unkempt arrow]

We getting refunded too

That saves me like 30+ resets of stam

[mellow bolt]

Yeh this is so nice now we can actually build units we have

[meager junco]

ya

but still 2 weeks till they give back currency

[hollow ledge]

-80% means i get to level up more units means i get to try out more comps

getting bored of m*ka

[lavish lark]

is this the tentacle guy in nightmare mode ?

[hollow ledge]

It's the treasure puppy

[lavish lark]

oh ok

[meager junco]

when are they reducing the cost for units?

[worldly ingot]

3/12 I believe that update kicks in

so two weeks

[meager junco]

oh i thought its coming earlier

but the retroactive thing would be then

[hollow ledge]

I also can't wait for the in-real-time faint memory points

That one is even better than adjusted costs

[charred citrus]

80% reduction is hilarious lol

I don’t see it being bad for the game long term. It does feel like they are watering things down a bit too much tho

I’ve never seen a game go from hidden mechanic(save data) to complete transparency then give you a live counter

[lavish lark]

that is some bullshit.. I had another maneuvering fire ( No epiphany ) and I removed Quick Shelling on the last boss cause I had 120 points limit

the fking game removed my maneuvering and gave me back Quick Shelling

so I guess if u remove a neutral card.. u still get charged the 20 points?

[lyric osprey]

Yes

[granite hull]

What is logic in making normal mob of non-interior chaos 15k hp followed by elite stage mob at 8k

[vernal flint]

Whats best team this game is too hard

[lavish lark]

Veronica Mei Lin and Mika is the "standard" team

[vernal flint]

Thanks, uninstalling discord again bye

[drifting flame]

[charred citrus]

1 convo with kasuya and he rips hahaha

[lavish lark]

I'm used to it.. he does that

[hollow ledge]

i hate him so much

his gimmick is that he gets a whole bunch of morale stacks which you wear down by attacking him constantly

but even if you do clear him, his hits are still nasty

[meager junco]

sadge that this one slash thing didnt crit, would have been a hella nuke...

would have breached 20k total dmg :S

[hasty hearth]

That’s some giga whale right there

And there’s new dupe shop then?

Interesting how they going about yuki aka buffing her shit epiphanies by turning them into different ones (single target build)

Releasing content where yuki can showcase her power

[nocturne kelp]

Are packs cheap in this game

[drifting flame]

Yes

[nocturne kelp]

U play too?

Too many familiar faces

Is this another throw after a month or it’s actually bonkers

Just broke u with my ex 15 hours ago

So tryna play something 😭

[charred citrus]

Nah most of us been playing over a month.

You can easily sink 50+ hrs into this np

[nocturne kelp]

Aight let me download on my pc

[charred citrus]

Chizuru/next chaos waiting room for most of the grinders tho

[nocturne kelp]

F2P friendly?

[charred citrus]

Very

Lot of the strongest units like mei renoa Hugo are fine with 1 copy

Also 4* kinda cracked and they all have their uses

[nocturne kelp]

Okay

What’s the best possible starters

So I can buy an account

[charred citrus]

The three I mentioned are all fun and top tier decks

I’d reco looking for acct with some combo of mei Hugo vero renoa

[nocturne kelp]

yep tell me wats the best possible

to min max

[charred citrus]

But like I said you can do all the hard content with tressa who is 4*. She is also the best partner for Hugo

Mei has the most broken combo in the game. But they are all broken in their own way. I’d take a look at what style of decks they are and see if it suits you

[nocturne kelp]

yeah ill play through the tutorial first

and see if i like the game

[charred citrus]

Mei Hugo renoa and e2 luke are prolly top 4 dps

Veronica is top tier draw/sub dps

[charred citrus]

Already pretty solid. I would take first one over 2nd

[nocturne kelp]

yep

downloading now

[charred citrus]

But that’s bc of taste. 2nd one has khalippe who is 💪 but boring to me

[nocturne kelp]

tutorial is mad long haha

[hasty hearth]

Wrong answer neither has renoa right @unkempt arrow

1st one is objectively stronger outside of chaos but 2nd one more flexible with chaos teams purely thanks to khalipe @nocturne kelp

[nocturne kelp]

yeah @hasty hearth what do u reckon ur opinion of a very good / best starter i should look for

im not in a rush to play so can wait couple days to see whats for sell

[hasty hearth]

Well as people said u can make anything work

[nocturne kelp]

yeah but

surely there's a objectively better one

but when the itch starts itching hard enough then ill go with whatever is best at the time

[hasty hearth]

Khalipe is strong her kit kind of boring aka really straightforward but she makes farming chaos a lot easier u literally can’t go wrong with khalipe/mika/anyone to farm a deck in chaos

The first one u posted hugo + Tressa is giga op and can do chaos but its less flexible compared to khalipe in terms of farming outside that team

Are u gonna spend in the game?

[nocturne kelp]

most likely

if i enjoy it

but not too much

this early

[hasty hearth]

If ur gonna be f2p i would probably recommend khalipe but if ur gonna spend then roll with literally anyone u think looks fun

[nocturne kelp]

so you're saying

go for first option if i spend

but go for second if i choose to be f2p

[hasty hearth]

That would be my recommendation with the 2 u shown yeah

[nocturne kelp]

give me some names to look out for

cus idk anything bout czn rn im just going through the intro

[hasty hearth]

I’ll give basic run down of the SSRs

[nocturne kelp]

renoa in this

[hasty hearth]

Nah that one isn’t good

Way too inflexible

With that set up would want Veronica in there

[nocturne kelp]

this looks good but its progressed

[hasty hearth]

That one is the best u listed so far yeah in terms of units

[nocturne kelp]

but its chapter 4 completed

idk how far into the game that is but seems abit too far for progression

[hasty hearth]

If u find a starter account with khalipe + vero + any dps that interests u

That’s prob the “best”

[nocturne kelp]

okay let me see

can u list the dps?

[nocturne kelp]

that's good and ill see from there

ill go by aesthetic lol since idk their kits

[hasty hearth]

literally everyone that isn’t khalipe and vero

[lavish lark]

the op one is Hugo if that helps

[nocturne kelp]

is there a vero banner

[lavish lark]

no

[hasty hearth]

No

Technically u can just do vero + khalipe account

Banner coming dec 3rd is most likely a single target dps

[nocturne kelp]

yeah

[hasty hearth]

But with just those 2 u won’t be able to clear everything

Actually u can if u build up Tressa prob

[shut talon]

What does faint memory means

[hasty hearth]

Save data value

Basically all changes to deck added up in point form

[hasty hearth]

Yeah prob best one

[shut talon]

I see

[lavish lark]

max faint memory points right now is 170.. so those decks will probably get hotfixed

[shut talon]

Yea, its too OP

Ill use it as much as i can while it last

[nocturne kelp]

yeah let me keep lookingh

[nocturne kelp]

know whats a good offer?

lmao

isnt this technically better?

[meager junco]

Technically this is good

in the end u will get more 5*s anyway

[nocturne kelp]

first or second kyu

[meager junco]

here u have 2 good supports and 2 good dps

[nocturne kelp]

basically the same price

[meager junco]

first, second aint that good if u ask me

[nocturne kelp]

yeah okay

[meager junco]

Haru for example works well with Cassius + Mika

can also be played with Khalipe instead of Cassius

[hasty hearth]

Hugo is way better than haru and yuki

But that’s ur call

U do have more SSR to play with

[meager junco]

wait i keep forgetting that banner units swap into basic pool lol

i tend to think "2 banner units" 😄

but Haru can be gotten via losing pity now

[hasty hearth]

I’m with kyu first one with khalipe + vero + hugo

Best possible start imo

[nocturne kelp]

erm

kyu said

[meager junco]

thats the 2nd one 😄

[nocturne kelp]

first one which isnt hugo

HAHA

[meager junco]

but ye u can go with that one too

[hasty hearth]

Oh what

[meager junco]

cant realy go wrong here

[hasty hearth]

Hugo is way better than the other 2

Especially at 0 dupes

[meager junco]

i have yet to lvl my hugo 😄

[nocturne kelp]

well both is cheap 15 bucks

[hasty hearth]

Depends I guess on ur preference

[nocturne kelp]

hugo does look kinda sick aethetically

[hasty hearth]

Basically hugo + Tressa is about shooting out a billion attacks in 1 turn

Haru is all about single card big number

[nocturne kelp]

oh

[hasty hearth]

Yuki is an aoe dpser extremely skippable

[nocturne kelp]

isnt for farming i want hugo then?

[hasty hearth]

Farming u can do anything really

For the harder content both haru and hugo can work

[nocturne kelp]

okay so aoe or st doesnt really matter

will i struggle if i pick one over the other?

[hasty hearth]

Nope both will clear things fine