CZN gooner gang godz only

[unkempt arrow]

U can have a better chance to stall some desirable cards to zone 2

For divine epiphanies

[charred citrus]

Yea true

Quit angle too if you at cap

[unkempt arrow]

[charred citrus]

I gotta do some haru runs after patch

[lavish lark]

zone 2 ?

[charred citrus]

Interior I’m guessin

[lavish lark]

u can get divine epiphs on first floor

no?

[charred citrus]

Yea course

lot of good events are in interior, the auto ones

The big eyeball in the sky background etc

They are upping the ele dmg sets hmm

Guess they realized nobody using em as much

They should up them more

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt holy idk if u know teamlabs but we went there and there was an unironic American furry there

Purple hair with a tail just walking around

[unkempt arrow]

U felt the need to tell Moo of all ppl

[hasty hearth]

Was a guy and girl

Guy had purple hair tail and ears

Girl had green

C R A Z Y

[solemn yacht]

After: When an ally uses a Forbidden Card, +20% Damage Amount, +20% Shield gain (2 times per battle)

What

[hasty hearth]

Was 1 before right?

[solemn yacht]

Per turn -> per battle

So it’s prob permanent

[hasty hearth]

The guy had a collection of tails around his waist

Like fur tails of all colors

[solemn yacht]

It doesn’t say 1 turn anymore

[unkempt arrow]

What the hell is he a hunter?

[solemn yacht]

Good thing I have it on my functional Mei Lin hahahahaha

[hasty hearth]

Maybe trying to convert people

[hasty hearth]

Oooo that’s actually not trash anymore

[unkempt arrow]

I seen someone getting walked in public with a spiky collar so ngl

Can’t say I’m surprised

We live in a weird world now

[mellow bolt]

Is that the place with the mirrors and water lol

I’m not surprised there was a furry there lol

[mellow bolt]

When I went there it was mostly white people

It’s like how they attract all the yellow fever white people lol

[hasty hearth]

Yeah

[lyric osprey]

Better let us have 2 monster cards and everything we want from this

This run was so scuffed I saw barely any epi

[unkempt arrow]

It be like that

[lyric osprey]

But reading patch things look good

We getting one more duplicate

And a bunch of new targeting epi and divine

[mellow bolt]

They better make that duplicate event more common in the chaos event

I still have yet to see one and I’ve done like 20 lol

[mystic mural]

The common version is getting a dupe option, but its not select a card

[drifting flame]

when is patch

[static crescent]

30min

[hasty hearth]

So basically copy similar to when killing boss

Just read through patch notes overall W but adding lead to shit cards isn’t good enough for the forbidden card imo

So best case 2 cost and still got to get a random one which also might have a cost

And worst case exact same as now

Would need to hit a divine epiph that reduces it by 1 cost again to be worth it I think

[drifting flame]

[rain rain]

lead works with that one gear tho, which makes em free if used automatically like that

dunno how you'd work it when making the build tho

I know I always try for that accessory for rei if I'm going for either the 150% or 100 + 2 morale

[hasty hearth]

That’s so ass tho I got to use a blue slot in accessory just for my 50-50 mechanic that’s only on 1-2 cards be 100%

[rain rain]

yea

not saying it's good

[hasty hearth]

Like that just sounds like a bad mechanic

[rain rain]

it's also kinda useful on magna ironically, given how many lead skills she has in her base kit

[hasty hearth]

Yeah magna has good amount

[rain rain]

but yeah probably just bad implementation for the forbidden card stuffs

or lazy

one of the two

[hasty hearth]

Well we can get them outside of that garbage 3 cost card

So not bad

[rain rain]

also has anyone checked yet whether tressa's 2-cost curse epi upgrade variant stacks with itself

I know the 1 cost upgrade bumps up the count from 2 to 4 if you dupe it + use both, but it doesn't actually apply it as 2x2 stacks which is kinda eh

[solemn yacht]

So weird. Chaos 9 save data is less than chaos 8 in seasonal

[faint onyx]

Anyone able to kill Max diff Judas

I’m stuck at 9

[solemn yacht]

I guess mods heavily influence choas tier

[faint onyx]

😭

[lyric osprey]

There was none previously

It was only after the two bosses

This is why doing seasonal was feeling so scuffed on top of having barley any epi options

[lyric osprey]

I did 10 with Tressa

This was 9

But it's basically the same thing

As long as you respect the mechanic

https://youtu.be/xePqXBdbjyI?si=EspKKUuHoRR02_Y2 and 10

[solemn yacht]

Dang getting to many ephiphanies now. I really should have done 2 card Hugo before maint

Still prob possible tho

[lyric osprey]

I needed more epi time to finally get some decent build

https://tenor.com/view/wow-japanese-winning-japanese-game-show-winning-gif-19517028

Now we cooking

[solemn yacht]

Oh wow 5 free refreshes in shop. I forgot about that

That makes it rediculous easy to find confiscation

[hasty hearth]

Not bad at all

Also the hell lvl 95 planet same save tier as previous one

[solemn yacht]

130 planet is max 11 tier I think

I refreshed a couple of times and couldn’t get the tier higher

No point farming till they fix this

[lyric osprey]

Bruh

[hasty hearth]

Just for 130? I’ve gotten higher on lower planet

[solemn yacht]

I can’t refresh higher than tier 13, that’s even with 3 mods

Maybe tier 14 exists, but seems pointless to do when lvl 80 is the same tiers. Maybe lvl 130 means more ephiphanies, but prob not worth the extra effort

Also, someone on Reddit realized you can just reroll Divine representative infinitly until you get a good card conversion option at the very start lol

Okay the covert common card one is pretty rare. Way to tryhard to get the perfect one

[lyric osprey]

I've gotten 14 on the previous cap difficulty

That just so bizzare

I would've expected lvl 130 to go way higher a shame

[hasty hearth]

Wait but u said tier 11 earlier I do think 13 is highest (14 DT)

[mellow bolt]

So what’s the optimal deck building tier for difficulty vs building potential?

[hasty hearth]

Really? Unless u mean for DT then yeah I think it is

[lyric osprey]

Yeah date save

15 with nightmare on

[unkempt arrow]

I also got a 14 (DT15) b4 this update

He finally getting stronger

[solemn yacht]

Rerolling krykens messenger starting buff is so halariously op. Makes making god tier support builds much easier

[hasty hearth]

Actually hate that debuff/gimmick whatever u want to call it

[unkempt arrow]

Like

On the thing the gimmick is based around no less

And this run I didn’t get no Mei Lin epiphanies on 2 cards

[hasty hearth]

Just so much free quest cards

[unkempt arrow]

The run went better for Vero and Mika tho

[hasty hearth]

Kek gear tho

[unkempt arrow]

It has the one gear that matters

Imma start building my Cass today

[hasty hearth]

Yeah his quest cards will slap…

[unkempt arrow]

The two cards I didn’t get Epi on

Are the 2 most important ones

The Vero deck went better would’ve been nice if I got a dupe repose but I had trash ? Marks too

[hasty hearth]

Anyone beat the 9/9 king crab without Mei Lin

[unkempt arrow]

Someone used Yuki and did it

Obviously took awhile

[hasty hearth]

Okay so degenerate tank and spank

Do I really have to cheese it with some 5 fortitude/weaken bullshit

No rather Mei Lin 1 turn…

[plush sandal]

What is ur Mei lin stats?

[unkempt arrow]

I have her potentials almost done missing the crit ones maxed

And like 850 atk 46%crit 165% cdmg

Can’t ss rn im in a run

[plush sandal]

Kk nice stats

How much turn u need to kill that boss?

[unkempt arrow]

Like 9-10

[solemn yacht]

Omg it’s way harder to reroll tier 14 now

Wtf

[worthy raft]

This will do for some time.. CD potential node is only 1/5 for now

[lyric osprey]

I did

[mellow bolt]

I was really close with a really shitty Tressa Hugo build

But all of a sudden he was doing like my entire hp bar lol

Hmm I was debating whether to build a khalipe haru for 9/9 crab or Mei Lin team

[dire gyro]

do you guys know if a base card getting an epiphany counts as a neutral epiphany?

and if it does, does that mean I want to remove cards like mika's whirlpool before it triggers it's epiphany?

[hollow ledge]

game undid my removes on maribell so it could save me two good shields

and you know what, shelter strike is actually useful with so many shield cards

[lyric osprey]

The last few turn he does 1k5 then 3k

[acoustic iron]

2 weeks and renoa + hugo potentials complete

hopefully less time with good rng on drops

[acoustic iron]

🔥

[hollow ledge]

damn this shit only 30 points i should have fed her some more

[acoustic iron]

should try this

https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator

[charred citrus]

After 6 turns he gets juiced

[lyric osprey]

Unfortunate I should've removed the basics

Still can exhaust them so it's okay, but annoyed

[charred citrus]

Hate that. Almost rly clean

Still very useable got some solid div epi

[acoustic iron]

WOW that woulda been sick

[faint onyx]

GAHHH DAMN

THAT REI DECK

[charred citrus]

Getting shop rerolls back is

1st world country again

[acoustic iron]

I dont even have shop reroll unlocked.. so im doing regular zero now

[charred citrus]

First tunnel since patch 0/1 forbidden but at least it gave me a gbag and a div epi

[drifting flame]

Epi reroll when

[acoustic iron]

first tunnel?

i found tunnel in 5/6 runs lol

really didnt understand the buff but it makes sense now

[charred citrus]

Still on my first run

[charred citrus]

Never. They want ppl to keep playing chaos:x

[drifting flame]

Time to quit

[charred citrus]

Agree tho I hate the random div epi

[charred citrus]

Quit if you not having fun

[drifting flame]

Chaos takes too much time

[charred citrus]

Give acct to @acoustic iron

He downbad

[drifting flame]

Can only do 1 per week

[charred citrus]

Yea it’s an actual game not burn sta and chill

[drifting flame]

[charred citrus]

It’s why I dropped 7k. This game sucks up free time

[drifting flame]

Star savior when

Only decent upcoming gacha

[charred citrus]

Miracle said 1 yr global lol

We boned for awhile on releases I think

Unless I missed something 🔥 in dec?

[drifting flame]

dragon traveler

[charred citrus]

So that’s a no? lol I don’t wanna waste time googling xd

[drifting flame]

It’s an afk gooner game

[charred citrus]

🤔

[acoustic iron]

afk is chill yeah

but idk if you will quit for good you might just come back n forth

[lyric osprey]

FF wrong wrong epi on the only thing that matters

Send help.. I hate it here

[acoustic iron]

I got fai and didnt even upgrade her. the end is near for me too

lol

my storage looks like this..

but hey if migi is serious ill take care of it

[charred citrus]

lol migi is just dooming

He keeps like 10 games alive saving pulls and revisiting

[acoustic iron]

yeah thats what i thought lol

you dont need to play chaos like crazy, I only do 1 to 2 runs a day

on busy days just farm potential logout

[charred citrus]

2/2 dim tunnel. Let’s see what we get

[acoustic iron]

im so jealous of his rei man

[charred citrus]

2 in 1 run is already kinda sick

[acoustic iron]

how did he get 2 divine with same morale boost on 2 diff cards

[charred citrus]

Tier 14

We’re all running tier 14

[lyric osprey]

Exactly

[charred citrus]

Well most of us

[acoustic iron]

I was at 14 too

[lyric osprey]

Skill issue

[acoustic iron]

but now I gotta max out zero system first

[lyric osprey]

[lyric osprey]

Oh do it

[acoustic iron]

yeah i did like 4 5 runs in zero before the new season opened im super behind lol

[lyric osprey]

I think the best part of the seasonal stuff we farming chaos orb for free

[acoustic iron]

just use locked shop

this where im at

[lyric osprey]

By the end I'll never need credit ever again to start a run

[charred citrus]

Yea that’s what I was sayin last night

I’m not touchin zero. Just straight season farming

[acoustic iron]

they fixed units

I gotta hand it to them

they'll still be sunk quickly but you wont feel broke long term

im somehow back to 2m now

can preplan my next 60 now

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

[charred citrus]

I forget I think there are more tiers

I’m at 1.5m with 5x 60s

[acoustic iron]

whoa wtf

[charred citrus]

Maybe I’ll do rei then save for chiz

[acoustic iron]

you rich rich

I only got 2

[charred citrus]

Damn this tunnnel is wtf

Combat stuff is rng but 3x latent epi, 1 div epi, 1 gearbag

0 forbidden from 2 tunnels but way way better shiiii

9ap turn 1.

🤔 this is 140 right? I got room for 1 non divine/neutral epi copy I think

(No whirlpool yet…)

[acoustic iron]

use the tracker i linked

https://liit95.github.io/sdcalc-chaos-zero/

if you need it to calculate convert + remove use this one but its stuck on magna.

https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator

[charred citrus]

If I had 2nd screen here i would

I wanna be able to eyeball it anyways

[acoustic iron]

i guess

but i think with using tracker youll eyeball faster

visualizing the numbers yknow

[charred citrus]

I just need to memorize the values

[rain rain]

to be fair, you only really need to memorize the first 2-3 values of each type

for everything but the most extreme builds I would think that would be enough

[charred citrus]

It bricked meh. Got another random div epi

[lavish lark]

bro it's 2025

[charred citrus]

I’m at my parents in ATL

I have a phone and a laptop

[lavish lark]

kk

[charred citrus]

My pc and ultrawide is at home in la

[rain rain]

play on emulator with tracker on browser in background?

that's what I do ngl

[charred citrus]

Eh I use stove but this work laptop is rough for gaming

[rain rain]

that's why emulator would be better

less resource intensive

basically don't even need the gpu unless it's a super potato laptop

[charred citrus]

Ld player had some issue with this laptop and hyper v

[rain rain]

I thought that was only with multi instance tho?

[charred citrus]

Stove works ok now

[rain rain]

but you do what works for you

[charred citrus]

Ld was crashing constantly so yep

[acoustic iron]

WHYY

hp fucking twice

[meager junco]

[rain rain]

[hasty hearth]

Oof

[rain rain]

kinda skirted breakdown but managed somehow

[charred citrus]

@acoustic iron this man is cursed harder than you

[meager junco]

wait

he got 7 rin dupes?

[rain rain]

7 copies

[meager junco]

i mean ill take a free E6 unit over different chars tbh

especially base line units

especially a dps

[rain rain]

I mean up to that point yeah I would too

if he keeps getting rins tho from here on however....

also great, now I gotta live with the red dot on chaos despite not being able to do shit about it yet since this acc isn't lv40 yet

rip ocd

[charred citrus]

As his only 5*? I dunno man

Just funny regardless. He wants to try other units but game keeps giving him nothing but rin

[charred citrus]

Think about his entire month. Hoping for new units to try and just rin rin rin rin rin

[acoustic iron]

I wouldnt even mind lmao

give me a complete rin

[charred citrus]

I’d be bored out of my mind

[acoustic iron]

I already only fight with rin

its the easiest way to clear chaos for me

[charred citrus]

Haha I mean you do have nothing but void anyway

[acoustic iron]

I guess

but I stopped using haru too

shes the boring one

[mellow bolt]

This event chaos is actually kind of insane

Lvl 125 mobs and super rare almost non existent duplicate event + terrible epiphany triggers

Trying to build a good deck in this event is almost impossible

[charred citrus]

Feels like the new difficulties are not worth. Just if you want a challenge

[charred citrus]

Epis are better than before at least. My main gripe is you shouldn’t miss a dim tunnel by pathing. 1 should be guaranteed either on a main fork on first lvl/interior

[acoustic iron]

you just go to the path that has double ?

its always a dimensional

is 125 with nightmare mode?

[hasty hearth]

Ye pretty much this

[acoustic iron]

so what diff would u guys recommend

[hasty hearth]

Doesn’t really matter as long as it’s I would say 12 minimum save data value

[mellow bolt]

Ya honestly for spam farming a good deck, I might just do it in a low difficulty

Cause these high difficulties there is a chance for you to just lose the run due to some stupid elite doing 2k dmg in 1 turn for no reason

[mellow bolt]

Why 12?

I need to look at these numbers more once I get back, I still don’t fully get it lol

[charred citrus]

The 3 black sphinx things hit me for 2400ish interior

I had full ho 2765ish

[acoustic iron]

@hasty hearth have you been using renoa this season i need a team to help build her a deck

I think potentials are okay enuff to try now

[mellow bolt]

lol ya that’s just stupid

I guess the silver lining is that this game isn’t stupidly easy and boring like other gachas

A bit of rng death always keeps it interesting lol

[hasty hearth]

Not that much no

But still same build really

[hasty hearth]

+120 points since most things are even number point value got to be increments of 20 ideally

[lavish lark]

and if u get a neutral epiphany u fked up

[hasty hearth]

True but since base is 30 total would be 150 with +12 so let’s u have some epiphs on them

Honestly u can run 11 or whatever doesn’t really matter as long as u can get ur save reasonably

But ofc higher the better and 12 seems like the lvl where most good team comps work

[lavish lark]

bro forgot how math works

tier 12 is 140 points

its tier x10 +20

but yeah I agree 140 is enough for a good build

[drifting flame]

[drifting flame]

Is she for Veronica?

[rain rain]

marin? yes

[drifting flame]

Got her early

[rain rain]

nice

I'm probably gonna focus on hitting the 300 mark then swap to partner pulls myself ngl

[drifting flame]

That’s what I did

[rain rain]

hoping to pick up either veronica or mei lin on this khalipe alt in the remaining ~100 or so pulls

then I can pick the other one from the 300 selector and sit pretty for a goodly while

[acoustic iron]

is it just rei Mika? im trying and renoa does absolutely nothing early in the run and just dies before first boss

[acoustic iron]

starting to feel like she needs to be babysat by khalipe Mika or something

which i dont even have

[plush sandal]

who should i up first to lvl 60?

[rain rain]

feel like depending on how much you use them, any of the first three would potentially be a good option; mei lin probably benefits the most from the lv60 potential upgrades, but khalipe/veronica both make chaos runs safer so....yeah, basically personal preference between those 3

[plush sandal]

Ohh oke

Mika can be up later, right?

[rain rain]

ye

first upped to 60 is usually dps or subdps depending on utility etc

[plush sandal]

For clear basin khalip + Haru still good?

[rain rain]

if you mean is it still a good combo I think so? not sure whether it's super aoe focused now due to yuki dropping, but khalipe can cover that regardless I would think

given it's not one of the wombo combo teams I'd think its still a fairly safe bet to use

[plush sandal]

Oke thankyou

[hasty hearth]

Yeah I’ve done it with that team plenty of times

U can do that or Mika/khalipe both work

Or Cassius thrown in

@mellow bolt I ate at coco and it was really good thanks for the recommendation

[acoustic iron]

I think the best I can do is Mika rei/nia

no khal and my Cassius iv lv 20

[hasty hearth]

That’s fine I’ve done it with Mika rei

[acoustic iron]

but ill just go to lower diff i dont think mine ja strong enough yet

even to do tier 11

[hasty hearth]

Yeah I don’t understand that cuz I’m booty blasting just using basic card lol

[acoustic iron]

yeah ill have to upgrade basic potential then

only done unique and crits

[rain rain]

could be a gear issue too

[acoustic iron]

yeah my renoa is 50/177 crit

800atk

[hasty hearth]

No that should be good enough

Unless the sets are

[acoustic iron]

sets are trash lol

I can put rins stuff but none of em have extra subs

guess ill farm more gear after a week when I finish potential for her and hugo

then try again

[simple stump]

Whne

[acoustic iron]

I never noticed that lmao

[simple stump]

it just bug recently

some intern fck up

[acoustic iron]

Idk why its so hard to translate for this game

and then check it

[simple stump]

not hard more like QC

lot of language and lot of lines

[acoustic iron]

yeah

but its better than having to revisit every week lol

have some good qc

[simple stump]

if u check like 10k lines in a week, u will missed some

[acoustic iron]

and be done with it

true

[simple stump]

it tend to happen more if u know you dont even know that language

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/712831198816108585.webp?size=48&name=ramosDerp

[drifting flame]

[mellow bolt]

Yeh it’s good right?

Best Japanese curry imo

Btw anyone beat this lvl 130 chaos event yet?

I can never get a decent deck going for this event, just getting by with the bare minimum

[dire gyro]

do you guys know if i convert a base card, and then remove it, do I save 10 points?

cuz if you remove a base card, its automatically +20 pts

but if you convert, its 0 pts for the remove and 10 pts for the conversion

[meager junco]

that was just Black dance lol with no morale, just retain Will of Light usage and 5 buff cards in hand

[meager junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-PZqCq0t7o

[hollow ledge]

finally i finished the missions

no more affinity requirements and levels

[hasty hearth]

Imagine showcasing a unit based off lvl 10 zero system man if that was lvl 10 seasonal I would’ve been impressed

[lyric osprey]

[meager junco]

whats the difference? the zero system stuff now applies to seasonal too

so u get the same stat boost there as well

am i missing something

[hasty hearth]

Planet lvl LOL

Zero system lvl 10 in his video is lvl 80’s

Seasonal lvl 10 is lvl 110

And yeah if he did a lvl 110 zero system planet then would’ve been essentially same

But that ain’t no lvl 110 planet in his vid that’s for sure

[meager junco]

would it have made such a big difference?

[hasty hearth]

I’m assuming u haven’t gotten to it yet?

Because yes the difference is astronomically massive

[meager junco]

no not yet cuz im lacking the time and willpower to play Zero this much as im also playing HSR as well which has gotten TFT style gameplay as well both games with those types of systems drain lots of time xd

[hasty hearth]

To put into perspective the final boss in his video has 10k hp. In lvl 110 planet the final boss has over double that

Same goes for damage and everything else

[meager junco]

hmm

[hasty hearth]

Normal fights from seasonal are harder than that final boss

[lyric osprey]

He also get one moral each turn base line too

[hasty hearth]

Trueee

So basically the boss scales way faster

So ur on a timer and can’t just tank and spank

[meager junco]

i see

well wouldnt him showcasing a unit then on the new boss mode with like 9 difficulty be better?

[hasty hearth]

Since the seasonal one has lot of damage benefits for yuki

Items and cards

But I guess I do agree lvl 9 seasonal would be more impressive

[unkempt arrow]

First time using Tressa

Lowkey ridiculous

[hasty hearth]

Waiting for multi hit heal on skill to proc creating shadow daggers multiple times

[unkempt arrow]

I wanna get that run so bad

Ima do more today

[charred citrus]

Alt account awhile ago. Still best background imo

[unkempt arrow]

I have her on ego rec too

All 3 Mika Vero Tressa all ego rec

Can spam em all the time

[charred citrus]

1.5bar?

[unkempt arrow]

Yessir

[charred citrus]

Sexy time

[unkempt arrow]

Cuz Mika is almost at 100 rec

[charred citrus]

Ya I aimed for ego/hp on her too

[charred citrus]

I just played tress too much. Don’t wanna raise her on main

[unkempt arrow]

I finally got that last Tressa piece that didn’t hoe me

[charred citrus]

I keep getting hoed

[unkempt arrow]

Cuz I wanted 30% dot while still keeping the good gears

Real

[charred citrus]

0 gg pieces in general all decent or pretty good vibe

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah no pieces that would make someone jealous yet

Maybe 1 if anything

[charred citrus]

It’s kinda goated how high Mika hp gets with her silly ass potential

You raising her for crab 9 or already dunked

[unkempt arrow]

I haven’t done it yet ngl

I wasn’t very interested

Especially after 70+ runs and Mei Lin deck still hot ass

I may just run it with Haru or Tressa

[charred citrus]

I was thinking haru but having too much fun playing yuki

I’m bored of the others we’ve played for weeks

The reward is kinda meh too. Just gonna keep working on decks to try again with yuki since at least I’m enjoying her in seasonal

Such a beefy hoe she is

[unkempt arrow]

[hollow ledge]

She got beef alright

[unkempt arrow]

Yuki has been so whatever to me I removed her gears

Literally have them just sitting on no one

Might raise Luke

[charred citrus]

She fun. Play with vero or rei. Seasonal gears make her about that life 😂

[hollow ledge]

gonna have to start making a plan on raising people

[charred citrus]

Can always save creds and focus potentials for you fav dps

Unless you already done ya

I’d hold off on void until we see chizuru

If the gear in 2nd lab favors her it’s gonna be another easy pull and play for 3wks

(Likely)

Rei is a solid choice tho for next unit imo

[meager junco]

i mean

the whole event seems to favor chizuru

the event chaos is weak to void lol

[charred citrus]

Yeee. Double whammy if lab 2 has tailored gear for her etc

[lyric osprey]

It's just me or it's way harder to roll tier 14 since the update

Smh

[lavish lark]

tier 14 is not even a thing no?

it's t13 with nightmare

[lyric osprey]

Wdym

[lyric osprey]

I was doing it

That an old SS

[lavish lark]

oh

[lyric osprey]

It's 14+nightmare

[lavish lark]

I thought 13 was cap

[lyric osprey]

But since update I rolled only it twice

Whereas before it was more common to me

[hollow ledge]

I'll get Chizuru and raise her regardless

[acoustic iron]

we had tier 15 before the update

lol

[charred citrus]

Ya you can get 15 but super brick run mods

[lyric osprey]

Now it's horrendous

Before it wasn't that bad trust..

[charred citrus]

Running a 14 rn but it cost me like 25 refreshed Ros

[lyric osprey]

Yeah not worth

And half the time it's 50% HP and tyran

Some stupid stuff I don't wanna deal with

[charred citrus]

No rest is pretty high value

[lyric osprey]

I actually don't mind it half the time

Depend what epi I get at the start

[charred citrus]

Gangrene 3 no rest -30%hp rn for 14 trauma

[lyric osprey]

That not to bad

[charred citrus]

Yea no rest hurts but you can manage if you get a good map

Some of these new fates are super good man

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

[charred citrus]

I got this last run too and just cruised

Yuki vero Mika etc

[unkempt arrow]

Anyone know what u get if u get the helm with the researcher event?

Don’t mind my hp it’s decreased by70%

[charred citrus]

If you remove a curse card since it has no specific unit bind… does it just not hurt save data? 🤔

[charred citrus]

Helm is sick hp% def %

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah but the researcher asks for it later on

What does he give?

[charred citrus]

Blanking lol

[unkempt arrow]

Usually unless I’m playing Khalipe or something

I remove a card here anyway lol

[charred citrus]

Jc boosted mobs are insane

Survived 2500 rd from boosted normal interior to totally cook boss in 2 turns

[acoustic iron]

dang

you got so much hp

[charred citrus]

Dude you can’t survive without it

They hit so Fkin hard

Mika almost 1100 with blue acc

[acoustic iron]

Yeah im gonna be working on making my dps run 2pc atk 2pc cdmg 2pc hp

as soon as im outside of the potential mines

[charred citrus]

It’s just cushion I don’t run khal or mag so

[acoustic iron]

yeah i need that cushion

[charred citrus]

Sometimes you can’t dodge the normal interior fights and these mobs man

[acoustic iron]

i seen someone clear diff 15 with rin orlea rei my fav team

he was running 2pc hp on his rin to survive

[charred citrus]

Yea it’s doable you just gotta build for it

[acoustic iron]

yup

but idk how i feel about making orlea and rei lv 60

kinda steep

[charred citrus]

Keep em 50 as you climb

When you start feeling stat issue you’ll feel better about it

Or go 55

[acoustic iron]

yeah i think thats best too

i still have to finish hugo after renoa

and tressa

when will i eveer farm fragments

[charred citrus]

Here’s stats in chaos

[acoustic iron]

Nice

thats really strong

[charred citrus]

Those 3 sphinxes boosted

[acoustic iron]

also is that weapon or the green pistol better?

[charred citrus]

Have almost bricked my run 3x now

I like the mythic

Green pistol is good tho. Chimeranite is always a late pickup

[acoustic iron]

Yeah i just dont know too much about yuki

wondering if she scales better with additive or multi

[charred citrus]

She wants everything tbh.

[acoustic iron]

nah thats crazy

why she so greedy

😄

[charred citrus]

Just how it goes haha

Aoe unit. Vero fills in her weakness with st crits

She has rly juicy epis tho honestly

[acoustic iron]

I was wonderng about magna to double down on more aoe

something like magna + cassius

[unkempt arrow]

-70% max hp

Don’t care we still winning

Was worth too

Not the vital I wanted but

Still good for now

She’s a shield fiend now

[acoustic iron]

wow thats insane

Tressa just destroys this season huh

lol

[charred citrus]

looks low diff

She pwns bosses tho yea

[unkempt arrow]

Diff 13

So kinda?

Idk

[charred citrus]

Tier you mean?

[unkempt arrow]

I want to aim for a good season deck Tressa is super fun

[charred citrus]

Diff is on left side

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah tier my fault

[charred citrus]

And boss is not lit up magenta

[unkempt arrow]

This is reg chaos ofc

Zero

[charred citrus]

Gotcha gotcha

[unkempt arrow]

I wanted a good Tressa general deck with scroll

Cuz she’s cracked and a army of 1 with it

[charred citrus]

Ya I don’t rem but I’m pretty sure you can get tier 13 on lvl 75+ planets

Maybe even lower

[unkempt arrow]

This one was uh

[charred citrus]

Deck you just got is nice

[unkempt arrow]

83 low tier

Cuz I died in a 108

And just reset it

Felt pointless to keep lv climbing after awhile

Just need good runs

[charred citrus]

Yea 100+ gets zany

[unkempt arrow]

Man

It’s ridiculous

[lyric osprey]

Real

[rain rain]

better than having 0 difficulty tho

least game scaling that much gives a challenge, even if it can be annoying at times how high the scaling goes

[lyric osprey]

Do we know the unit after chizuru?

[rain rain]

don't think so apart from that one image?

in the event I mean

whoever the girl on the right is might be banner unit after chizuru is my guess, but dunno her name cuz I haven't really been following the leaks n stuff

[charred citrus]

Yea sentinel or somethin. She was in the story

Support

[rain rain]

might be willing to pull for her if she truly is a support

chizuru I have 0 interest in apart from looks as a f2p

[charred citrus]

Void has a lot of options

[rain rain]

kinda same with yuki to an extent since this khalipe acc also has e1 hugo

[lyric osprey]

Same

[charred citrus]

If she like yuki it will be a lab just for her so

[rain rain]

granted he's not built atm but it's still there

[charred citrus]

Fun to use for 3 wks minimum

[rain rain]

[lyric osprey]

Yuki is still meh to me.

She's not bad but I'm not wow'd

[rain rain]

yeah same, like she seems ok but yeah

[charred citrus]

I’m understanding the cycle

New unit + tailored playground

Spend 200 for e2. Rinse repeat.

[rain rain]

lol

[charred citrus]

I’m ok with that if it’s fun feel me?

Keeps me playin

[rain rain]

yeah the e2 qol scam can be iffy if the unit isn't great/fun to play in the first place

if they are, that's fine

[charred citrus]

Yea I mean she’s like Luke bro

[rain rain]

but if not....meh

[lyric osprey]

The most exciting part of me is when we will be able to get the free dupe

[rain rain]

[charred citrus]

If you don’t have e2 she will have issues having strong t1 and t2 but she pretty damn good at what she does if you have it

[rain rain]

that free dupe probably going towards khalipe for me on this acc

[charred citrus]

Yea I thought we were getting 1 omega code per 3 wks

[lyric osprey]

I'm fine with my Kayron.. doing 2k4 AoE for 0 AP. Or 1k2 for 0.
I can do some pretty crazy turns.
I wish I had him E3 it would be so much smoother

[charred citrus]

I hear you but yuki don’t gotta wait

[lyric osprey]

I have to wait 1-2 turns that about to save and everything scale up

[charred citrus]

Kayron has infinite scaling tho

[lyric osprey]

So to me it's whatever

Yeah

Having his support made it better but that E3 feel really needed at times

[charred citrus]

Not having Bria feels bad on him

From my xp. It’s why I dropped that acct :/

When dis?

[rain rain]

basically need both I think

[lyric osprey]

His ego overall aren't bad but yeah ain't happening unless I funnel him

[lyric osprey]

Probably last part

So in 4 weeks kekw

[charred citrus]

Fkin 1copy 9 wks is ass

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

[charred citrus]

1copy per season tho?

😑

I was gas lit

[rain rain]

eh, I kinda view it as "ok we're getting more free stuff"

[charred citrus]

His e3 is another graveyard exhaust… so with Bria and ego that’s 3

So good

Assholes smilegate

[rain rain]

lol

honestly feeling way better about this khalipe alt than main rn, despite it having way less resources atm

[acoustic iron]

during chizuru

they said itd be 2nd part

[charred citrus]

I had same xp with my f2p but got bored

[acoustic iron]

those dupes prob best to keep for some cracked unit

[charred citrus]

So swapped back

[acoustic iron]

to get it to e4-6

[charred citrus]

I still haven’t used my selector too

[acoustic iron]

yeah me too

though its prob veronica

just need to see what i get next

[rain rain]

I'm still waiting to hit it on this acc

but I can just coast ez on it too with no rush

[meager junco]

i think they said in 2n part of this season

so with Chizuru i guess

[unkempt arrow]

Was gonna use for Vero E2 but

Got it getting Yuki E2

[charred citrus]

Lucky bastaad

[lavish lark]

bro, I don't believe HP has the same rate as defense and atk on items

I rarely see an item without HP in it

[rain rain]

items meaning what, memory fragments?

[lavish lark]

yeah

[rain rain]

it could simply be small sample size

[lavish lark]

that's what most people thought about flat stats in genshin

[rain rain]

because unless you have like over 1k samples (eg memory fragment pices) generally things are gonna be skewed

[lavish lark]

turned out to be a different story

[rain rain]

true but did genshin actually post the rates on it?

pretty sure they've posted the rates here, so if they're flat out lying that's gonna get them in trouble, in more ways than one

[lavish lark]

maybe im just unlucky.. but I don't have almost any piece without hp in it

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11022851

its here

[rain rain]

well to be fair there IS a decently high chance of any one specific stat appearing, given there's both 4 substats + the applied substats already there get removed from the pool

[lavish lark]

casually it's never atk for me

[rain rain]

I mean, I've gotten plenty of pieces casually that were shit all too

it's less common to get one you want, for obvious reasons

additionally, given both hp and hp% exist, that's actually gonna be an outsize ratio

[lavish lark]

my complain is it should be the same as atk and def

[rain rain]

because you're talking about 20% of the substat pool

[lavish lark]

but it's not for me

[rain rain]

I mean rng will be rng

like I said above, it's probably a small sample size thing

because unless you're in 4-digit territory of number of pieces collected it's probably gonna be at least somewhat skewed in probability

even then it'll still be skewed but much more in line with what the actual probabilities are

[lavish lark]

yeah.. I did over 1300 pulls in Etheria restart and didn't see a single SSR outside of soft pity

1300 1%s

[rain rain]

what were the rates there

[lavish lark]

1% pity not included

[rain rain]

what's the pity limit there?

[lavish lark]

and in this game.. I also haven't pulled outside of soft pity yet

my reroll was 3 SSR in 2 10pull.. that's all I've pulled outside of pity

same as here

and to top it off.. I've gotten 3 Orleas and 2 Lukes

missing all 50/50 in promo banner

[rain rain]

again, that sounds like small sample size ngl

[lavish lark]

I'm just telling u my experience

[rain rain]

I agree it's an unlucky distrobution, but I also think it's still small sample size

because like I said, until you start getting into 4-digit territory, probabilities will be fairly skewed

and in this case, that's 1000+ pities not pulls

[lavish lark]

1300 pulls is 4 digit territory

[rain rain]

if you pulled 1000 5* units you bet it'd be fairly in line with the probability

[rain rain]

that's pulls, not pities/ssr/5* draws

[lavish lark]

its 1300 1%s

[rain rain]

so you should have gotten 13 ssrs on average

[lavish lark]

you dont think at least 10 is bad luck?

imagine 0

[rain rain]

how many ssrs did you get in those 1300 pulls tho? including pities

[lavish lark]

almost 20

[rain rain]

that's better than 1% tho?

the problem here is the pity/softpity fks with the calculation

[lavish lark]

usually only fks me tho

[rain rain]

if there were no pity and you did 1300 pulls it would be way more accurate

I mean I've gotten trolled by rng plenty of times myself in gachas

but that's part of why I play multiple accounts / rr a lot because I know you can easily get supertrolled in the short term

[lavish lark]

that's another fun story.. took me 70 rerolls to get the character I wanted in etheria restart

well.. the character everyone wanted, tbf

[rain rain]

the other thing is unless those 1300 ER pulls were done all in one session it's kinda hard to call that representitive of accurate rng, due to how these games utilize rng

[lavish lark]

20-25 mins per reroll... can't use emulator

[rain rain]

if they're spread out you're basically cherry picking pieces of the rng from different segments of it

which yeah, it's very easy to get trolled/unlucky that way

it's why I try to save up at least the average amount of pulls towards getting a high rarity unit before actually pulling

[lavish lark]

I do that too... it's the only way to get units in my case

[rain rain]

mhmm

it doesn't help that with rates as low as these games make them you can get trolled easily too

[acoustic iron]

meanwhile I never rerolled and just got lily without knowing how good she was lol

the duality of these games

and yeah really should stop doing single pulls in this game, its just such a long wait to the next 10

[lavish lark]

u do know there's no difference right?

u probably don't, since u suggested that

[rain rain]

the only difference is with multis you can proc the guranteed 5* effect + get one or more randomly alongside it via rng....not that that will happen for most ppl but yeah

the guranteed effect at the multi start where the visual spazzes out for a bit only gurantees 1 5*....but it's not necessarily necessary to proc a 5 star early in this game

that's technically the easiest method to get doubles or triple 5*s in rr

although while I say "method" you can't control when it happens but yeah, most often you will see a double with one being the gurantee + the other being random from rng

[mellow bolt]

Wait we can now use saves from chaos zero for the seasonal stuff now?

[charred citrus]

Nah he means the upgrades

Rerolls/atk/def/hp boosts

[mellow bolt]

110 would be easy at this point , this lvl 130 one hits like a truck

[mellow bolt]

Ah ok

Damn

Playing the seasonal chaos is such a feels bad thing but you gotta do it lol

[simple stump]

lucky xD lmao

[charred citrus]

I like it moo

I like it more than zero lol

[simple stump]

I gonna to failed last turn, i just revert last turn and wish for 3 crits and it work lmao

[charred citrus]

lol you blessed

That’s why link break isn’t a terrible thing. You get 1 last turn 🤣

[simple stump]

they need to give us something to recover from link break

[mellow bolt]

You must enjoy pain more than I do

[charred citrus]

Doubt it I think it’s ok

Game needs to have some punishing things

[simple stump]

i mean when link break i need to leave eitherway

[charred citrus]

I just like yuki so. All the gear is great on her

[simple stump]

unless it final boss

i wish if i win that battle it recover so i can continue

sometime good run hit hard hidden boss

[charred citrus]

Basically yea you escape unless you think you can slay and get a few more rooms

[charred citrus]

Ya I’ve had a few super close calls

But it shouldn’t be too easy. I think most of the stuff is too easy

[simple stump]

RIP

[meager junco]

ya the buffs are now in seasonal chaos, u also get zero chaos currency to push the ladder there as well etc.

[simple stump]

welp time to farm gears

[simple stump]

this chaos suck, it doesnt give me enough mysthic items

[charred citrus]

Fight more elites

[mellow bolt]

Oh maybe that’s why, I don’t use yuki

[simple stump]

not legends, the purple one

[charred citrus]

The entity appearance rate should be same as zero if you got everything maxed

[charred citrus]

Don’t listen to Reddit. This chaos is. Basically for her. The bosses aren’t hard and all the gear is sick on her

[mellow bolt]

Oh damn so I can just go and build a deck in chaos zero instead of the seasonal chaos to do the 9/9 crab

Right?

[lavish lark]

no

[charred citrus]

No my friend

[mellow bolt]

Damn

[simple stump]

anyone beat this boss yet

[charred citrus]

You need seasonal deck ><

[simple stump]

i only able to beat level 1 max 9

[mellow bolt]

Almost got jebaited

[charred citrus]

I got him to 5k hp with yuki vero

[simple stump]

even the boss is bias, it build for yuki

[charred citrus]

I think I just need to get copies of the weaken epi on repose and I should be ok

I only got a 1 copy deck

[lavish lark]

do we know what the frothing rage does yet? for the crab

[charred citrus]

It buffs his dmg I think. 🤔

[mellow bolt]

Also damn…looks like one more week til doing chaos will become amazing

[simple stump]

i can beat IV 7/9 crab 9/9 is too hard

[charred citrus]

Ya ep reroll gonna be nice

[simple stump]

specially after 6 turn it just 1 shot me

[charred citrus]

You can do some things

[simple stump]

how many sand do we get daily

[charred citrus]

First is don’t have low hp lol. Mika needs some specific epis like blessing per ap so you can heal for 500+

Weaken nerfs his dmg big time

[simple stump]

there is this card

or this

[charred citrus]

I mean bags are kinda standard at this point ya

I don’t like the first much but it’s useable

[simple stump]

it give free ap and cost 0 so... not as bad, just need luck to get it

[charred citrus]

Plus turn timing

[meager junco]

should be max cap

at least i get 20 per day

[simple stump]

ic thanks so it refill daily

[meager junco]

yea

[simple stump]

so close

2 pity

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1172581029068935249.png?size=160&name=ramosHmmByTyrion

[charred citrus]

$$$

[charred citrus]

Jk don’t he’s a e2 unit

[simple stump]

just luck

im missing 5 chars

not that bad, got all meta

[meager junco]

my luck is terrible

i barely have any chars

[simple stump]

did u pull all gems ?

[charred citrus]

You got the one you need tho

[meager junco]

pull all gems?

[lavish lark]

all the meta units he says

[charred citrus]

I’m sure rin has fun in this seasonal lab

[simple stump]

use all gems to pull

[lavish lark]

he is missing both veronica and khalipe

[meager junco]

im at 300 pulls here

[charred citrus]

Same

[charred citrus]

Holding

[simple stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1172581029068935249.png?size=160&name=ramosHmmByTyrion

im that lucky ?

[meager junco]

yes

im that unlucky

[charred citrus]

You got variety luck yep

[meager junco]

i also had to get to hard pity for Yuki

got a Rin dupe

i also have an Orlea dupe

[simple stump]

my pity got Mei Lin then get Yuki after 20 pulls

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/817063375846375445.webp?size=48&name=ramosSweat

[meager junco]

wish i had Mei

i want a fire dps

[charred citrus]

I just saw a rin orlea rei diff 11 run on yt

[meager junco]

ye thats the best Rin team

[simple stump]

i have alot but.... not enough resource to build

[meager junco]

hits like a truck if played well

[charred citrus]

Orlea softie? Boosts like crazy yea

They multiplicstivr buff kinda nuts when stars align

(5skill cards etc)

[meager junco]

yea

[simple stump]

orlea pet count as heal

infinity shadow dagger

[charred citrus]

Would’ve watched it more but he chose easy ass map just like t12

Does it proc shadow reload? I thought it didn’t for some reason

[simple stump]

yes

it is skill card

retain trigger it

[charred citrus]

I rem I was testing passivr heals. Maybes it the 3* partner passive that didn’t work

[simple stump]

this give you 3 shadow dagger

this same if u have more sturdie

[lavish lark]

yeah orlea is insane with Heal Tressa

[simple stump]

it must be skill heal

passive isnt skill card

[charred citrus]

Nods good to know tho ty

[acoustic iron]

Man i cant wait for everyone to be built i can do so many team combos with my box

[mellow bolt]

@charred citrus what’s your yuki dupe at?

[charred citrus]

Just e3

But I rarely use her ego so it don’t matter

[mellow bolt]

Hmm so e2 yuki is good then

Maybe I’ll try investing in her

[charred citrus]

She’s fun man. Inspiration isn’t broken mech but she clears large packs fast and I use vero to help her with st

Overall very fun. Vero and neutral draw fishing on Mika gets her pumping by the time you get to interior

[mellow bolt]

I’ll try building her cause I have nothing else to build lol

The last few nodes are too expensive and time gated by weeklies for most characters

[charred citrus]

Good enough reason :x

Just use vero

[mellow bolt]

Or I can waste stamina on minmaxing memories but I don’t wanna do that for these base sets

[charred citrus]

Yea chaos farming better for that

And craft what pieces you need left side etc

[mellow bolt]

What set are you running on yuki?

[plain breach]

is Khalipe's Vulture Ejection extra damage?

[mellow bolt]

4 pc order and 2 pc crit dmg?

[plain breach]

if it's triggered by other card

[charred citrus]

I just transferred my rin set over and crated an order cdam goblet

Cdam/2pc cdam

Order set might actually be a lil more consistent if your crit rate is low

But requires 2 card ramp which I dont like

I just build yuki as a 0-1 cost to maximize 200%cdam

[mellow bolt]

Wait you use crit dmg main stat

And not crit?

[charred citrus]

No the sets

I have 200%cdam on 1 cost bc of the set

Crit chance neck as usual

[mellow bolt]

Ah ok

@charred citrus do you level up both nodes

The big nodes at the end

On her potential

Or better yet can I see your potential page

[charred citrus]

Ya I lvld both

Sec I’ll show ya after this run

[acoustic iron]

@charred citrus future tressa piece looking spicy

[charred citrus]

Ayyy very solid

[hasty hearth]

It discards one of ur cards after u played 1 iirc

[acoustic iron]

yeah slowly finding the pieces to the puzzle while farming potentials

this is my current best hugo stat line with unfinished potentials

[charred citrus]

Order gob?

[acoustic iron]

new one this has higher cap than the last piece

[acoustic iron]

yeah

[lavish lark]

oh that's from frothing rage ?

[charred citrus]

Flat atk + crit chance. 👍

[acoustic iron]

yup

this is his goblet

the damn hp twice killed me inside

it whatever

[charred citrus]

I mean it’s flat hp so not the worst at all

[acoustic iron]

I suppose yeah, could prove useful for farming higher difficulty

[lyric osprey]

@hasty hearth https://youtu.be/m-_GuQBUaSc?si=_4RNjTPruB_rYb-z

When I say Luke kinda cracked

[lavish lark]

yeah but he needs E2

[charred citrus]

Damn. My man only using 2x 2 pc sets and melting face

But yea him renoa mei potential in sim is just op

[lavish lark]

imagine if he used Lucas instead of Mei

[acoustic iron]

sure hope i get dupes for him

but ill see how far i can take a e0 luke

[charred citrus]

I could use selector… for e2

Got 2 copies naturally through bad luck , )

Meh to another order dps but if I get bored enough

Over 2 weeks til chiz tho so there is time

[rain rain]

I'm just sitting here trying not to int my freebie stam refresh currency before hitting lv40

[charred citrus]

lol you have some will power

[hasty hearth]

Yeah ur talking when u do certain amount of damage and then he like bounces around frothing right?

[lavish lark]

yep

[hasty hearth]

It’s okay I beat it

[lavish lark]

8% of its hp I think