#CZN gooner gang godz only

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rain rain
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in all seriousness tho, nice

charred citrus
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She no mei Lin but jus sayin

rain rain
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zzz basically halfway to the weekly point cap thinkie

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think I'll stop here for the night cuz feeling lazy

charred citrus
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Ya same

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o7

hasty hearth
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Holyyy hello from Japan just landed

supple wasp
mellow bolt
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Ok so guys

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I should get yuki to c2 and build her after all?

hollow ledge
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five hundred retains

granite hull
solemn yacht
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Oh wow, I just realized that the 2 card Hugo deck is pretty achievable

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With 170 cap, thats 4 removals. And then with serum removal, you can get a 5th for free. Then escape before you get the 6th.

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So you would need to hit seasonal serum removal, the side A 2 card removal, then 2 shops.

if your really lucky maybe pick up the +1ap/+1card accessory, and copy his opener. But it shouldn't be too hard to make the 2 card hugo deck

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tbh it might be easier in regular chaos, with more removal options. but then you need to figure out how to escape before the last two cards get added

lyric osprey
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Up to you really

hasty hearth
supple wasp
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wtf

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so this banner not bait

supple wasp
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y u on discord

hasty hearth
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wtf is this traffic

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Almost 2 hours still didn’t reach hotel holy

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Heck not even hotel just our stop

supple wasp
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bus

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u didnt rent a car?

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but from tokyo airport right

bold marlin
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did you fly into haneda or narita

worthy raft
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Is it just me that I am unlucky or is the new seasonal chaos just straight up shit? Because even after few tier 13 runs I have yet to have a single run (even on lower tier included) where I get more than 70-80% of basic card epis..

hasty hearth
hasty hearth
bold marlin
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I like narita. I slept at a train station one time flying back in to Japan lmao. It was hella cold that night. Miss Japan though

meager junco
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yuki dmg?

meager junco
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aw no crit

lyric osprey
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Dang

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You going all in

hasty hearth
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Yeah some say he be down bad

lyric osprey
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True Rin main he is him

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Time to get Mei Lin built because I feel like it's all going down hill from here with the bosses unless they have the mechanic where they take less damage with consecutive hit

shut talon
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dankpuff my combo card didnt shows up

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5 morale ea turn

worthy raft
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I am gonna just do 8/9 crab with those shit decks I got after all those runs and time spent and than call it quits except weekly stuff for this fucking shit AcheronFallen

unkempt arrow
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Lowkey same

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Can’t make a proper Mei deck

supple wasp
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wtf

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you can only use the saves

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from this chaos

thick relic
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@solemn yacht !!

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This has been my last set so far

unkempt arrow
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Peak Vero Deck ngl

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With the book that’s op

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Best version of the pendant

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Best possible outcome is probably getting -1 cost on that pendant

lyric osprey
unkempt arrow
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2 fights in

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Already cooked run

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This is always annoying lol

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Least we can do is try for a cracked Mika deck then

dawn thunder
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how do i build meilin properly?

shut talon
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You need her +1 hit per passion card used

plush sandal
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Why I'm gacha yuki for M2

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Whypepedead

worthy raft
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Emergency patch notes xD

drifting flame
cerulean plank
acoustic iron
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lol so its gonna be actually easier

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zero upgrades on season chaos gg

lyric osprey
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Someone already posted likely but thanks you..

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Because I was sleeping already

lyric osprey
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You trying to hurt my eyes

worthy raft
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It will not be in one patch.. so we will "see" what we get in first batch of update..... but the epi rate is really like urgent..I can take a lot, but this is too much even for me

worthy raft
lyric osprey
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I've been doing T15

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And legit feel like sometimes I finish my rush without getting many epi

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What the point of nightmare..

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Beside making my stress a mess when I use Kayron

worthy raft
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Yeah I get you...finishing run without like 1-3 basic cards or 2-6 epi on basic cards (all 3 chars included) is like avg 90% + run and yeah I will really not grind 40hours just to get 1 decent-ish seasonal deck that gets trashed to oblivion by like 80% of zero runs decks

lyric osprey
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Yeah

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The only two build I got so far are not even good but I did so many run and it's depressing

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Knowing I have to make more else I can't do the seasonal content

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But the way it was going it was a painful experience

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These are okay ish. Could've been way better but.. it is what it is

Some of the forbidden are actually so good but every time my run ended up cooked or with terrible build overall

charred citrus
acoustic iron
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yeah but doesnt zero system upgrades make it easier

charred citrus
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Yea but 3 new difficulties so diff 11 I guess?

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Gonna be good. 8 is way too ez.

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Adding some seasonal flavor to zero codex too wth

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They just trying to make everyone happy lmao

lyric osprey
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Higher difficulty mean higher data save surely right, let me add monster cards to my deck

charred citrus
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How long will this last KEK

lyric osprey
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Exactly..

charred citrus
lyric osprey
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They just bowing down hard rn. I don't mind

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As long as they don't run it into the ground

charred citrus
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Well to be exact they said - upping epi opportunities and unidentified area rewards (which means more epis)

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I just want max diff to be hard

meager junco
charred citrus
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If ppl aren’t crying about failing it’s a bad card game imo worryKek

lyric osprey
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Currently we got 2 fix which are only when you beat bosses

meager junco
lyric osprey
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In Zero we got so much more opportunities

charred citrus
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Yea we’ll see how much they buff jnidentified areas. Dim tunnel rn too feels meh

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Been tracking in at 2/7 now no card

charred citrus
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And not sure about debuff affecting next room reveal? I keep going max debuff and thinking that would help

lyric osprey
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Tunnel feels so bad.. you not even guaranteed a forbidden card

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I wanna dodge them half the time it's just some random mob fights

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With no real rewards

charred citrus
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Also the fights in there are weaker than interior fights

lyric osprey
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Like what the darn point

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Yeah

charred citrus
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Werd

lyric osprey
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Also those mutant variant are a joke

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Except one imo and even then..

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The two green one

charred citrus
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More diffs would be good for us. I’m glad they “heard” it’s too easy

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Nah it’s easy I’m 15-0 with yuki vero

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I should’ve failed once by now

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If it was zero I prolly fail at least 2-4x if I’m being realistic

lyric osprey
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The only time I fail is because I'm forcing Mei and I legit hate her

charred citrus
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(Diff 10)

lyric osprey
charred citrus
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Gear not great for her too

lyric osprey
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Yeah

charred citrus
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Shii is rly tailored for yuki

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No sports bras for mei worryKek

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What turtle you on? @lyric osprey

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I gotta do more later

lyric osprey
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Turtle ?

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Which turtle are we talking about about

charred citrus
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Yea the boss. You clear dis 9 yet?

lyric osprey
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Yeah

charred citrus
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Ima focus on that today. I just started spamming 8s last night

lyric osprey
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Tressa Mika Vero I just slammed it

charred citrus
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Niiice lol yea the -%dmg buffs won’t affect agony much

lyric osprey
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I've seen a fun comp one yesterday

charred citrus
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I gotta try 7-9. 3 and 6 were zzz

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Prolly just slam 9

lyric osprey
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But I cant raise renoa

charred citrus
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Used your yellow currency to buy credits?

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The monthly ones

lyric osprey
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Saving it for now

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I bought the monthly one ofc

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I just wish they would give more credit

charred citrus
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That comp jusr shows how flexible units are in this game

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And his renoa isn’t try hard like you guys. Only double initiation dirge gen? We’d go for 3 or 4 haha

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That build is comfy vs flower copy

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If you don’t run a search etc

lyric osprey
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That because we can only get two extra copy in seasonal at best

charred citrus
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Yea true

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I got a vero with triple 0 repose but rest is ass

meager junco
charred citrus
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Was just makin sure he did bc he said he can’t raise his renoa

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Yea we all should if you can spare it

lyric osprey
charred citrus
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lol

lyric osprey
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And a bunch of 50

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I wanna test more stuff

charred citrus
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Yea no doubt

lyric osprey
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But I can't not with potential and everything

charred citrus
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Potential is draining me now

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Done with yuki, gotta finish vero now

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Haru done too ofc

drifting flame
acoustic iron
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so i guess it going to 18

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which should be on par with lv 100+ on zero

acoustic iron
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basically stuck here until shes done so I can do basin with her lol

charred citrus
acoustic iron
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ohhh maybe

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thats same effect honestly

charred citrus
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Gib patch neow

lavish lark
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Mutant Sample has remove on it.. but it can't be used.. does it remove when the chaos run is over ?

charred citrus
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🧐 it’s an item? Those usually proc right away

lavish lark
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a card

charred citrus
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Might just be a per battle remove like exhaust. Hmm

lavish lark
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bro.. he has 0 morale.. and with 126%x4 its doing almost 900 dmg

charred citrus
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Yea that fker hits hard

bold marlin
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Work in progress but it would look something like this

rain rain
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there's been debate whether the create version or move to hand version is better, personally I prefer create version because with move to hand you gotta be super careful you don't accidentally draw the basics with another ability beforehand (which makes them 1 cost, not 0 for that turn)

lyric osprey
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I like the move more than the create just because I hate adding stuff to my deck

rain rain
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but yeah adding stuff to deck can be breaking of rotation

lyric osprey
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Unless I have enough draw

rain rain
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so I can see merits of both sides

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honestly in theory the create version with all 3 basics removed outright might be interesting

bold marlin
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I just recently started learning how to build mei Lin honestly lol. So I’m not sure which one is better for me

lyric osprey
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But with the new draw 1 for 0 and the one cost forbidden

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You can cook even harder with the create

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Just a shame items for Mei aren't there

rain rain
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yea

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part of why I like the create version is because the created cards stay 0 cost, even if they're drawn by another ability not from mei

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it's less stuff to keep track of, but I can see the appeal of move to hand too

charred citrus
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Create cooks in sim. Move is better in chaos where your draw is limited until late in the run

solemn yacht
rain rain
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that's completely different from draw

lyric osprey
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There more flexibility on her build that for sure

solemn yacht
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Yeah that’s why I say draw is better

charred citrus
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Create starts rly pumping on those turns you have 8+ draw

rain rain
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draw is also limited to 1 of each per turn

solemn yacht
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For rising dragon spire + Veronica spam

rain rain
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eg if you already used a basic card 1x that turn, you only get 1 more basic with draw

charred citrus
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When you draw 3 creates and more punches on top that’s how that guy got the 177k dragon spire lol

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He drew like 27 cards

rain rain
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that's why ppl don't run draw I think, because it gimps the amount of basics you can do in a turn

charred citrus
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Like 16 punches lol

rain rain
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nice

solemn yacht
rain rain
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why not both

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more dmg

solemn yacht
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Yeah both would be ideal haha. Draw and move

charred citrus
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Sim is one thing. Chaos you want stability but both are good. Sometimes you only get one option and it won’t Brick the save with either

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Unless you going for the largest shot in history type thing

charred citrus
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5x crunch bars, the draw 3 with gear bags

rain rain
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lol

solemn yacht
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The seasonal content changes are crazy haha. So weird how fast the dev team capitulates haha

charred citrus
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Gear bags on his Mika but both his draw supports were 200+ save data’s so broken haha

solemn yacht
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Good for me tho haha

lyric osprey
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Tbh as long as you're Vero is giga draw engine

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It matters little

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They will die

charred citrus
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Right when I need more difficulty we getting it ><

lavish lark
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@solemn yacht what is this bullshit

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how do u remove this fking card..

lyric osprey
charred citrus
solemn yacht
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It’s super op

lyric osprey
solemn yacht
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0 cost remove

charred citrus
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Even like a 6-7 hit spire hits for 15k+ rd if your mei is geared well

lavish lark
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yeah that's what I assumed.. but the duplication scared me a bit

lyric osprey
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Yeah no need to go crazy

solemn yacht
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But getting 200+ save data is going to be crazy

charred citrus
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Shii nice so it’s end of run

solemn yacht
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4 removes is only 170. So you can easily do 5 with serum remove. Maybe 6 if exit early.

charred citrus
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Yea I saved that ss of your deck to 0 brain a similar save lol

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Just hoping my Mika doesn’t get deleted

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Otherwise just use that forever

hollow ledge
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oh that's based

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useful for when you run out of research points to buy

charred citrus
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Ya certs and other shit too sometimes

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Cakes etc

lyric osprey
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Send it my way

hollow ledge
hasty hearth
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God I hate this new chaos

charred citrus
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Manifest the patch Bibbi. The patch!

hasty hearth
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At least give me my 5 shop refreshes game pepeHand

charred citrus
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lol I know haha

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We’re poors again living without our privilege

hasty hearth
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Worse than poorer

charred citrus
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Zero system buffs coming to seasonal tho so

hasty hearth
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Cuz they slapping legendary affixes

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Without any benefit

charred citrus
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Soon we back

hasty hearth
charred citrus
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Some of the affixes are impossible fasho

hasty hearth
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The last chaos lvl is actually quite brutal

charred citrus
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Like fortitude every turn fk out of here

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Or the lose 1 card random every turn

hasty hearth
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Interior mobs hitting ur entire hp bar in like a turn

lavish lark
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@hasty hearth I think copying a monster card doesn't add 80 points btw.. this deck was 2 removals ( basic ) 1 convert

hasty hearth
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And I swear epiphanies are rarer or some shit

lavish lark
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the second gear bag seems to be 0 points

charred citrus
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That’s neutral tho not boss

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Monster is like kefox or the golden egg

lavish lark
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they should behave the same no?

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there's nothing that says otherwise

hasty hearth
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Monster card def can be coded differently possibly tho for copying

charred citrus
hasty hearth
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2 removals is how many points?

charred citrus
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This thing is not copy able and saving rn lol

hasty hearth
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Also confirmed the 3 cost create forbidden card

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Really fkin bad

solemn yacht
solemn yacht
charred citrus
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Yea that egg and kefox prolly top 2 utility

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So removal is 0 10 30 50 70 but that’s just the cost of the remove

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If it’s part of their base 8 cards it’s +20

solemn yacht
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Yeah better just to think 20. 50. 100. 170

lavish lark
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and epiph card also 20

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@hasty hearth nvm.. I think the gear bag copy is actually 20 points

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cause I converted one of the basic cards to mutant

solemn yacht
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Cause 50 (2 removals) + 40 (divine eph) +20 (1 gear bag) + 0 (gear bag copy) is 110

lavish lark
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its only 1 removal

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the other 2 were conversions

hasty hearth
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He converted which costs less than removal

charred citrus
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Yea conversion is 10 only

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So if you land a good neutral on a shit base you winning

lavish lark
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its 2 div epiph = 40
1 removal = 20
1 conversion into gear bag = 30
1 conversion into mutant = 0
that only leaves the other gear bag, which is the first copy

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meaning it's 20 points

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cause it's a neutral card

charred citrus
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Wait why 30?

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You don’t get charged the removal for conversion

lavish lark
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because its a conversion

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conversion charges 10 to that card

charred citrus
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Oh it’s not a flat 10

lavish lark
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it is.. but if that card gets removed.. it also removes those 10 points ( my guess )

hasty hearth
lavish lark
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maybe if u remove it manually

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but mutant sample and meat don't seem to charge those 10 points

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best way to test would be to start a zero chaos, convert basic cards with the first event, and then removing at first shop and escape

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but we all focused on season worryKek

solemn yacht
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If basic chaos was free I’d do more testing haha

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I’m so poor hahahaha

charred citrus
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We all are. I think I’m sitting on a milly

hasty hearth
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What are these difficulty levels they talking about?

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That’s being released are they talking about king crab?

charred citrus
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They didn’t say tiers so i think leftside of seasonal chaos

solemn yacht
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Yeah pretty sure it’s seasonal chaos

charred citrus
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I doubt it’s crab. Scrubs struggling on that thing

solemn yacht
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I doubt they will make king crab harder. FOMO will make scrubs complain

hasty hearth
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Crab 8/9 do be hard

charred citrus
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Improving epi count and base planet will be good

hasty hearth
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I knew I wasn’t crazy

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Epiphanies felt so Fkin rare

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Because of a shitty tunnel event which isn’t even good when u get max reward

charred citrus
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Ya they upping “unidentified reward rate and dim tunnel”

solemn yacht
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Yeah crab 9 is hard if you are using fair decks haha.

hollow ledge
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Godfather ended my run again

quasi tartan
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Who should I get?

solemn yacht
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Yeah I didn’t realize you don’t get epiphany in tunnel. Makes sense

charred citrus
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Most of the time it’s barren

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Just easy fights for nothing

hollow ledge
charred citrus
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Gross

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That has to feel so good lol

hasty hearth
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It’s funny how the season is essentially a big promotion of whatever the new unit is

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But u don’t even use them for the stuff

charred citrus
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My e0 is already 💪

hasty hearth
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Well I did use yuki for up to king crab 9

charred citrus
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I’ve only used her man

solemn yacht
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I wonder if the new unit is better for auto farming but I don’t have the gold to raise her

charred citrus
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I’m 15-0 lol

hasty hearth
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But she definitely not making it past that

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Unless I get some crazyyyyy deck

charred citrus
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I dunno I like her a lot

hasty hearth
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I like her

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But she ain’t anything special

charred citrus
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E3 tho. I can see e0 being trash bc your first 2draws will have her cards

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And they will be dead trick slash or not majority of the time

charred citrus
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She needs sub dps but then rapes multi mob rooms

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If you don’t have vero you can run a rei sub dps with appropriate gear. Just don’t be dumb and not run hp set and ego on vi

hasty hearth
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She can’t function without dedicated units

charred citrus
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Sorta I think she does way more than khalippe

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Like 11k first turn?

hasty hearth
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She does more damage than khalipe

charred citrus
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Ya ya I dig it

hasty hearth
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But khalipe doesn’t need 2 butt buddies to be needed

charred citrus
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True she is just a raid boss

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But she doesn’t have as high upside

hasty hearth
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What u mean

charred citrus
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Just safe subdps survival

hasty hearth
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The upside is u can bring in an actual main dps worry free

charred citrus
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Like more dmg in less turns

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Khal is slower than mei vero, renoa vero

hasty hearth
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What

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It’s more like a difference in what u need but even in those teams u mentioned

lavish lark
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to build Vero as a DPS.. u need another dps on the team right? what if u dont have Khalipe

hasty hearth
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I would rather not bring aoe and just another support

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Renoa can clear aoe rooms by herself fine

charred citrus
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My point is if you want massive aoe yuki is it

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Khal can’t do 12k in 1 turn

hasty hearth
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Sure but yuki ain’t doing that kind of damage without pure dedication to her

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On none double draw teams

charred citrus
hasty hearth
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My yuki hasn’t broken 12k dps

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By herself mind u

charred citrus
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But main dps you just goes balls to the wall crit chance crit dam and forgo ego on vi, hp set etc

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Sec let me get the laptop

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I run her 2/2/2 cdam/hp/atk

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Ego on vi for both non mdps

lavish lark
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but can u for example do Vero/Nia/Orlea

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is she enough as the only dps in chaos

charred citrus
hasty hearth
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Tho higher levels prob iffy @lavish lark

lavish lark
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that's what I meant.. It's not like I wanna do diff 5 with her worryKek

hasty hearth
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My yuki is like giga selfish build and she breaks that dps if I got the dedicated peeps

lavish lark
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it just feels like Vero needs epiphanies to be viable as main DPS..

hasty hearth
drifting flame
lavish lark
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I would use Mika/Vero/Mei Lin.. but my Mika is E1

charred citrus
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Sub dps vero @lavish lark

lavish lark
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that's not enough to solo heal on higher diff

unkempt arrow
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If no one told you already

drifting flame
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dead run

unkempt arrow
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Ahh dang

hasty hearth
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@lavish lark If u got Cassius built he works wonders with her

lavish lark
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cassius is also E1

unkempt arrow
hasty hearth
charred citrus
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Ya just showing him what works well for her. You and I got similar

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It’s ok I do. dankpuff

unkempt arrow
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How’s that not sub dps lol

hasty hearth
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What u mean just cuz he’s using offensive gear set

charred citrus
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Gives hp to party 50%+ crit 160 cdam and 64 ego recovery

hasty hearth
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On a vero deck that most likely is about spamming repose and not reloads

charred citrus
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She spams repose, ballista hits hard, and uses reloads as filler

hasty hearth
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Define hitting hard cuz

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I know what a 5 reload ballista should hit for

charred citrus
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Well she can crit upwards of 2k on full reload but that’s not her focus

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She draws cards and provides extra st dam every turn

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If you run out of mdps cards you use reloads or kowalskis as filler. She’s legit a goat

hasty hearth
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I mean just personal preference of what sub dps should be

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In terms of damage amount

charred citrus
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Well if she was a main dps you would go atk% on vi and drop the hp set

hasty hearth
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Either way enough about vero this was supposed to be about yuki

lavish lark
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I only see HP as a debuff in this game

charred citrus
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It’s too important later

lavish lark
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its really not

charred citrus
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Surviving mindbreaks

unkempt arrow
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Bro said hp isn’t important

hasty hearth
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Yuki is like the epitome of selfish + rng

unkempt arrow
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Ok

hasty hearth
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It’s like the epitome of high variance character

solemn yacht
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I wish they’d buff inspiration so you can get multiple stacks like orlea retain

hasty hearth
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@lavish lark Forgot what’s ur account level?

lavish lark
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51

hasty hearth
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It’s super high rng

unkempt arrow
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Trash unit

charred citrus
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She’s like Luke

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E2 or don’t use lol

hasty hearth
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Even e2 I wouldn’t recommend tbh

unkempt arrow
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^

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Not worth

hasty hearth
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And that’s someone who has done 12k+ with yuki in 1 turn

unkempt arrow
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She’s not good enough to warrant that type of spending

charred citrus
hasty hearth
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It’s just a frustrating unit because inspiration is high variance

charred citrus
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It is when you build 12 card decks

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Your build philosophy is not good for inspiration

hasty hearth
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No

charred citrus
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Based off what you show off

hasty hearth
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Ur thinking of it in first 2 turns

charred citrus
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Your deck size is like 36+

hasty hearth
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What about content that takes longer than 2 turns

solemn yacht
hasty hearth
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Or multiple deck shuffles

charred citrus
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Not ideal

hasty hearth
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Inspiration is just a high rng variance mechanic

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Let’s take 18 total deck as an example

charred citrus
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Deck economy wise if your draw outpaces your deck size is the dream

hasty hearth
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Let’s say 6 inspiration in there

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First 2 turns feels like the absolute dream because inspiration at those turns with e2 isn’t a mechanic it might as well not exist

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Then let’s go past 2 turns

#

U draw 5 cards

#

Ah shit

#

There’s only so many tools to proc putting things back into deck and such

#

Aka ego skills etc

#

Basically tl:dr inspiration is just a very underwhelming mechanic because it heavily relies on rng which makes it high variance in upside + downside

#

It’s underwhelming for Yuki because the payoff isn’t really worth it essentially

#

She’s not bad

#

But she isn’t like great or anything

charred citrus
#

I don’t disagree with the variance point. But it can be mitigated and quality of filler comes into play

#

But yes you deal with rng

hasty hearth
#

She isn’t like obliterating with the absolute nuts set up

charred citrus
#

Bosses no. Aoe packs yes

hasty hearth
#

It’s even more rng focused and less pay off is the point essentially

charred citrus
#

Like dog lord nerfed but I’ve 1 turned him a bunch of times now

hasty hearth
#

Like if we take renoa as an example

#

With some rei buffs

solemn yacht
#

How is she as a solo carry dps in chaos tho? Like if Mei Lin is great in chaos as you don’t have to spend anything on her. Same with Mika. So you can focus everything on third unit you are building

hasty hearth
#

I can have each dirge bullet hit over 1k each on discard

#

Why would I ever want to do the Yuki payoff

#

Instead of consistent every turn no rng bull shit 7k+

lyric osprey
hasty hearth
#

Renoa builds I have from chaos

#

Quite lackluster

charred citrus
#

Every turn is a bit of a stretch but renoa deals with her own rng in chaos

hasty hearth
#

Sure but way less than yuki imo

charred citrus
#

But yea renoa mechanic > inspiration

hasty hearth
#

And I don’t need dedicated butt buddies

#

I can actually bring her with

#

Quite literally almost anyone

lyric osprey
#

I just abused Tressa like always

charred citrus
#

I dunno e0 renoa I found always works better with Mika rei

lavish lark
#

is this renoa's wet dream ?

charred citrus
#

So I had dedicated butt buddies for her

#

Haha her ego is the wet dream

hasty hearth
charred citrus
#

When you have mad dirge, Nia ego goes hard

solemn yacht
#

Oh yeah there’s that new forbidden card that is pretty good with discard too

lyric osprey
#

Man I wanna raise her so bad.. everyone having Renoa party

#

Give me credit

hasty hearth
charred citrus
#

I think she top3 unit. Just got boring

lyric osprey
#

You can only do so much with this chaos anyway

#

This guy too but deck is eh

lavish lark
#

so why is Renoa aoe again?

charred citrus
#

Bc when you have her epis she just does absurd st dmg

hasty hearth
charred citrus
#

But if you get boned on dirge creation epis she is boring af to play

lyric osprey
#

Enough to just " cleave "

hasty hearth
#

Yeah if u discard 10 bullets

charred citrus
#

Why I stopped using her in chaos

hasty hearth
#

That’s “pseudo aoe”

#

Doesn’t even need to be high amount

lavish lark
#

so it's just overkill type of aoe

lyric osprey
#

Do we know what the rift is about. It's likely the two teams score based thing right

#

Also I have yet to see this.. I wanted it for on Rei in my Kayron setup

charred citrus
#

Got it on my first run then never again 14x later

#

I’ve only seen 2 cards whole time

acoustic iron
#

did any of you record how much each potential costed per upgrade?

#

specifically 5-10 on unique and 1-5 on crits

#

ill take any information if youre at 6 on unique or w.e

charred citrus
#

I didn’t KEK

#

But I can look at units

acoustic iron
#

pls Prayge

charred citrus
#

Ok going from 7 to 8 unique costs 10leg 1 eyeball

#

I stop here bc I don’t wanna farm eyeball

acoustic iron
#

nice that helps

faint onyx
charred citrus
#

Going 4-5 cdam is 28 leg 1feather 1card

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3-4 was 24 leg 1 feather

faint onyx
#

Potential is. Cringe is farm

charred citrus
#

Yea I’m stopping at 4. Yuki hit 201 cdam

#

Only reason I did 4 honestly. I wanted to break 200

acoustic iron
#

good to know

charred citrus
faint onyx
#

Ooo

#

I guess I need to put my Mika on Ego too

#

And abuse ego spam

meager junco
#

this guy doing no pull play lol

charred citrus
#

Yea it goes up fast if you have low cost partners you can get more mileage out of them plus freeing slot up for nyx

meager junco
#

i think he beat the whole game so far

charred citrus
#

What a masochist

faint onyx
#

He’s definition of mid

meager junco
#

lul

faint onyx
#

But he NTR’d the Koreans

#

So hes never played lol

charred citrus
#

Biggest jumps on gear are crit necks and ego gain on vi for your non main dps

#

You will feel the game just get easier

faint onyx
#

You run crit neck on non-DPS?

charred citrus
#

No im saying

faint onyx
#

Yeah I spend all my crafting for crit neck

#

😦

charred citrus
#

The upgrade itself impacts gameplay

faint onyx
#

Oh yeah

#

Good crit necklace for DPS and ego for non DPS on IV

charred citrus
#

@acoustic iron 6-7 unique is 8leg

faint onyx
#

Time to move my Mika Rei Nia to Ego

charred citrus
#

I think the crit and cdam costs vary on location

#

Now that I’m looking at it closely

faint onyx
#

Depending on if it’s first or second probably

#

Second node cost a little more than first

charred citrus
#

Yea position 5 is way more expensive than 4

faint onyx
#

Okay depending on what gear and substats I get will determine if I go full DPS Vero or subdps KEK

hasty hearth
#

Not gonna lie tho outside seasonal stuff yuki is way more fun

faint onyx
#

Pray for additional damage rolls

hasty hearth
#

But maybe after they buff the seasonal chaos it’ll be way better

charred citrus
#

Crit chance position 5 on vero. Going from 1-2 is 20 leg lmao

#

I’m enjoying her a lot

faint onyx
#

I think she’s fun

charred citrus
#

I did invest fully

#

Tho

hasty hearth
#

I think she’s fun

#

But not like

faint onyx
#

The inspiration rng is kinda cuck factor though

hasty hearth
#

Super great or anything

#

Good and fun

faint onyx
#

But she has big hanging booba

#

I don’t mind that she does mid damage

charred citrus
#

IMO best aoe we got rn. We see what the content calls for next

hasty hearth
charred citrus
#

Nah nah just e3 but almost max potentials (good ones) and geared. 50% crit and 200%cdam with 1 cost cards

faint onyx
#

Nah Khalipe #1 AOE

#

She my goat

hasty hearth
#

Oh

charred citrus
#

Plus 60 partner etc

hasty hearth
#

I mean mine is like that as well

charred citrus
#

Ppl hating on the partner but I think she’s solid

hasty hearth
#

Cept e2

#

Meh

charred citrus
#

I never use her ego anyways so same yeee

hasty hearth
#

I don’t like the way they are doing partners

#

But it is good for her no doubt

charred citrus
#

Same

#

I like the option of topdeckingnsomething for next turn

#

Like a source or wave or non inspired

hasty hearth
#

I mean I guess if there’s another inspiration striker can use it on them

charred citrus
#

Yea it’s not flexible

#

Partners should have more power but ppl would riot

#

Bc all the cry babies can’t pull on the banner when they want units

hasty hearth
#

I’m pretty much doing pull on banner and buy partner through dupe shop

#

Got enough for next 2 characters partner kek

charred citrus
#

Yuki don’t shield and isn’t as flexible tho

acoustic iron
#

maybe its not each level it goes up

charred citrus
#

I’m saving that way too for next

charred citrus
acoustic iron
#

yeah thats fine

#

i know it depends whats first

charred citrus
#

K just makin sure

acoustic iron
charred citrus
#

For unique ya

acoustic iron
#

nice

#

almost got all them down

hasty hearth
#

Still need .7% crit chance for renoa to get last node full potential

#

REEEE

charred citrus
#

That has to hurt

#

You gotta just be upgrading crit chance pieces and hoping to land higher sub at this point

#

I’m tempted to craft more upgrades but don’t wanna burn through all my traces

hasty hearth
#

Yeah my renoa pieces are good too

#

So really hard to replace

thick relic
#

How do you use the universal dupe item?

charred citrus
#

When we get it I bet you just click on it in storage

thick relic
#

Isn't this one?

solemn yacht
lyric osprey
still sedge
#

yup

acoustic iron
#

if anyone has more input this what i know so far

#

Unique
1-5 = 44 Blue
5-7 = 8 each
7-8 = 10 + eyeball
8-9 = ?
9-10 = ?

3rd Last node(Usually Crate)
1-3 = 16 each
3-4 = ?
4-5 = ?

2nd Last Node(Usually Cdmg)
1-3 = 20 each?
3-4 = ?
4-5 = ?

drifting flame
charred citrus
hasty hearth
#

Fk

#

Made a piece that has more crit

#

But worse in every other way

#

Do I make the change pepeHand

#

I mean dirge bullet potential cancels out damage loss I guess so just having more crit

charred citrus
#

Make the swap imo

#

Completion dopamine

#

You can fine tune later

hasty hearth
#

Yeah tired of looking at 59.3% staring at my soul

charred citrus
#

Plus she your fav

hasty hearth
#

But the right piece is so good…

meager junco
#

wtf

#

auto just used ego skill

charred citrus
#

It is

#

But you can always tune and swap it back in

hasty hearth
#

Yeah last slot is biggest pain in the ass

#

I’ll settle for the crit for now

charred citrus
#

Yea crafting left side is easier for tuning

#

No multiples for right main stat just sub hunting

charred citrus
#

Mine will use nyx sometimes and do crazy shit

lavish lark
#

turn 2 btw

#

this thing is such bullshit

charred citrus
#

That fight is gonna be hard for tress

#

Dogs at 3 stack fuck hard

#

Butthole gone

hasty hearth
charred citrus
#

Also low hp sir

hasty hearth
#

@unkempt arrow best thing to come out of maincord

charred citrus
#

When I saw that on Reddit I thought that’s you

lavish lark
charred citrus
#

Not 100 but

hasty hearth
#

SURELYYY

charred citrus
#

You might end fight like this

lavish lark
#

yeah my mika is level 40

#

she is E1

#

I'm also doing -30%hp mod

charred citrus
#

Yea you’re playing on challenge mode then pepedead

lavish lark
#

we don't see the whole picture

charred citrus
#

Orl wasn’t cutting it for ya?

hasty hearth
#

I’m just waiting for update

#

Current chaos feels so ass

charred citrus
#

I did a ton last night

#

Hoping patch is tn or something

hasty hearth
#

Already finished everything else…

#

So just gotta wait I guess

lavish lark
charred citrus
#

Yea I’m done with weekly goal thing and farm

hasty hearth
#

Not having 5 free shop rerolls is criminal

dawn flare
#

Would be much better if Season Chaos would be added to the Zero System mechanic with like Unique and better stuff

lavish lark
hasty hearth
#

It is

#

That’s what we waiting for

dawn flare
#

Oh nice, didnt knew about it lol

charred citrus
#

Yea some season features in zero

hasty hearth
#

Right now seasonal chaos is “hey take on this legendary grade lvl 80 planet with no zero system bonuses”

charred citrus
#

I’ll prollly just run seasonal tho honestly

#

They giving us 3 more difficulties too so higher save data inc

hasty hearth
#

Oh and the less epiphanies is the real killer tbh

#

Fkin starving for epiphanies in there

#

@charred citrus u think yuki gonna be buffed with all the hate from people? kek

lavish lark
#

is this trigger 3 turns of agony? or 3 agony debuffs

hasty hearth
#

Oh u asking the agony part?

lavish lark
#

but if u have 1 agony for 3 turns.. does it work? or is it 3 debuffs

hasty hearth
#

No

#

3 debuffs

#

So 3 stacks+

#

If u have 3 1 turn agony it works

#

Or one 3 stack for 1 turn also works too I think

lavish lark
#

3 removals including deluge

#

whirlpool on the last boss is always painful

charred citrus
lavish lark
#

so all character cards tax 20 points when u remove them?

#

Deluge costs 20

#

or is it gear bag counting as an additional neutral

charred citrus
#

20 plus the removal cost yea if original 8

acoustic iron
#

@charred citrus completed

#

Unique
1-5 = 44 Blue
5-7 = 16 Gold
7-8 = 10 Gold + 1 Eyeball
8-9 = 10 Gold + 1 Eyeball
9-10 = 12 Gold + 2 Eyeball

3rd Last Node(Usually Crit Rate)
1-3 = 32 Gold
3-4 = 20 Gold 1 Feather
4-5 = 24 Gold 1 Feather 1 Card

2nd Last Node(Usually Crit Damage)
1-3 = 40 Gold
3-4 = 24 Gold 1 Feather
4-5 = 28 Gold 1 Feather 1 Card

lavish lark
#

if that deck is 160.. means 2 things.. Deluge is 20 points and the gear bag copy is 30 points

charred citrus
#

Hmm deluge was your 3rd removal

lavish lark
#

also this is 5 runs in a row without an epiphany on my ballista KEK

lavish lark
charred citrus
#

What i see is 3 removals =60 +40

#

Neutral +epi = 30

#

And you have 2. First copy is no additional cost. 160

charred citrus
#

Haha sry yea was checking on my part from your ss

lavish lark
#

which means copying a monster card is extra 80 points @hasty hearth worryKek

charred citrus
#

Yea obscene

#

He doesn’t like doing removals tho he can technically make it happen if he gets no epis

lavish lark
#

so escaping the chaos is techincally the best way to remove an unwanted card like whirlpool or deluge

#

cause it's not gonna cost 20 points

charred citrus
#

Ya

#

So you don’t get it on last boss or some shii

#

Which actually happens pretty frequent

#

Del or whirl has happened to me a bit

#

On these shorter planets

simple stump
#

wtf is this ?

#

isnt it used to have diff reward amounts?

lavish lark
#

its random between most resources

hollow ledge
#

commissions with different rarities

still sedge
acoustic iron
rain rain
#

back to doing more rr dankpuff

lavish lark
#

didn't this one give +1 to limit in nono's shop? or am I going crazy

rain rain
#

at least that's my understanding of the daily recharge amount

lavish lark
#

no that's the reroll currency

#

dice reroll and turn rollback

rain rain
#

nonono I mean the amount of times you can gem refresh said currency

#

yes you use it to reroll those things you mentioned

lavish lark
#

its this thing @rain rain

rain rain
#

yea ik

mystic mural
lavish lark
#

damn..

mystic mural
#

The upgrade makes it so you have 20 per day instead of 15

unkempt arrow
#

This gears pissed me off I swear

#

Just roll into what I need

lavish lark
#

why are u even rolling an atk chalice worryKek

#

well guess it's acceptable since we can't choose too much right now

unkempt arrow
lavish lark
#

atk is additive element dmg is multi

#

u get more dmg with element

#

unless u need to reach any atk threshold.. its usually better to go element

unkempt arrow
#

If u can reach 800 without passion %

#

Power to you

#

Well to be fair

#

On Mei Lin I can lol

#

On Vero no

#

I wanted roughly 750 atk on Vero

#

Need a passion % eventually but rn it’s being difficult

lavish lark
#

Vero has more atk than Mei Lin

#

should be easier to reach

#

level 60 Mei Lin has 476 ... Level 55 Vero has 500 worryKek

unkempt arrow
#

Well I push more for ego recovery

#

So I wanted to keep all of my ego rec

#

While being over 800

#

*750

#

But obviously atk% 4th is overdoing it

#

Cuz now she’s at 834

#

Lv55

meager junco
#

i need to get my Orlea to 800 atk lol

#

for the 6% crit rate buff

#

according to ppl its team wide

lavish lark
#

yea but it might be bugged

#

doesn't show inbattle

unkempt arrow
#

^

#

I switch her off 800 attack cuz I thought it only affect her

meager junco
#

i mean stuff didnt get shown in fight before too

#

but yea

hasty hearth
lavish lark
#

yo listen.. she can do a ton of dmg with the right epiphs worryKek

meager junco
unkempt arrow
#

Yeah just takes 30turns

hasty hearth
#

Orlea Stonks

lavish lark
#

I have yet to see any of those forbidden cards. are they in unidentified areas?

acoustic iron
#

in the tunnel

lavish lark
#

only from the tunnel? that's why then.. cleared it 7 times 0 rewards

acoustic iron
#

you have to beat a boss with a shitty card that debuffs your cards

#

for example no dmg for next 2 attacks

#

or no heal for next 2

#

so its best to get the forbidden debuff before interior

hasty hearth
#

Fkin king crab

#

Could actually orlea him kek

hasty hearth
acoustic iron
#

the npc

#

he gives you 2 forbidden cards toc hoose from

#

each has a debuff card similar to a curse he adds to your deck

#

beat a boss and it transorms into the forbidden you selected

#

if you ever get the ability to see tunnel from start always select it

plain breach
#

i'm so broke after 4 lvl 60 char lol

acoustic iron
#

4?!?

#

crazy

#

2 is enough for me lol

#

you didnt lv 50 a lot of characters?

plain breach
#

i have 6 lvl 50 for Dimensional Dawn and Twilight

#

😄

#

then made 4 to 60 and broke 😄

acoustic iron
#

where are you getting all these units

#

did you just not focus on potentials?

plain breach
#

potential are around 3-4 upgrade

hasty hearth
plain breach
hasty hearth
plain breach
#

yeah completely broke 😄 no battle memory and unit

acoustic iron
plain breach
acoustic iron
#

yeah

#

lol

#

i only pull for characters afterall

plain breach
#

Oh ... sorry I mixed with Units (currency) and characters lol

#

but you can exchange unit at shop

meager junco
#

Lol

rain rain
#

this game's translation/terminology strikes again I see dankpuff

hasty hearth
#

Yeah why do they call it units

rain rain
#

no clue, other than it's probabaly a utilitarian take on "unit of currency"

hasty hearth
#

Forcing us to say characters or combatants instead of unit

#

Those Koreans kek

rain rain
#

they already have credits in chaos runs too

plain breach
#

😄

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
mellow bolt
#

That’s not bad

#

I haven’t fallen for yuki yet though but I did finish building Renoa

#

Got her to c2 and did her potentials

hasty hearth
#

It is except that’s only 1 time thing because of the mutagen neutral card which exhausts

hasty hearth
mellow bolt
hasty hearth
#

Ah nice

#

Spam shadow mist for build

#

The seasonal one not very good for her

mellow bolt
#

Ya Renoa seems like a good unit to have just cause she can do so much burst without using too many actions

hasty hearth
#

Not the worst but definitely not great

mellow bolt
#

Where as yuki has a similar vibe to Hugo where it takes a lot of actions

hasty hearth
#

Well assuming u proc inspiration KEK

mellow bolt
#

Yeh and right now she’s getting a buff from the content as well

#

Imagine her without jt

hasty hearth
#

@mellow bolt ur in taiwan right now?

mellow bolt
#

Ya been here for a couple days

hasty hearth
#

Ramen last night was really good

hasty hearth
mellow bolt
#

lol nice how are you liking Japan?

#

Btw warning on their sushi…it’s not the same as our sushi

hasty hearth
#

Right now in ginza and it’s nice kind of like a cleaner less crazy ny lol

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
mellow bolt
#

Oh ok you’re not missing out lol

#

Just stick to ramen, their curry and the bbq stuff

#

Go to coco

#

That shit is amazing lol

#

My favorite Japanese chain

hasty hearth
#

Got it will look it up

bold marlin
#

miracle you ever gone to roppongi ?

hasty hearth
#

Thanks for recommendation if u got any others ill be sure to try them if i can

hasty hearth
bold marlin
#

first time in japan ?

hasty hearth
#

Yeah

bold marlin
#

if you enjoy nightlife. go to roppongi. a lot of strip of bars and whatnot

mellow bolt
#

If you’re in Japan you got to go to ichiran just once, it’s their biggest ramen chain

hasty hearth
#

Not a huge sake person but will probably give it a try once to see

bold marlin
#

just dont talk to the jaimacans or africans. they be selling drugs on the low

hasty hearth
bold marlin
#

kyoto definitely go see

mellow bolt
#

You sort of get these solo hubs

hasty hearth
#

Ah the individual booth things I’ve seen them in videos

mellow bolt
#

The ramen is good but more for experiencing the style

#

Ya lol

bold marlin
#

if you're into anime and whatnot, check out akihabara

#

also i dont know if you can go kart in the street anymore but i think you can do it there

hasty hearth
mellow bolt
mellow bolt
#

He’s gonna get lured by those girls on the streets with those signs

bold marlin
#

do a soapland >=]

#

jk

hasty hearth
#

Only themed cafe I think we going to is ff14 one cuz my brother was into ff14 and I don’t mind since I liked ff14 as well

mellow bolt
#

You should go to a maid cafe

#

And tell us what it’s like

hasty hearth
#

No thanks lol

#

Only way that’s happening is if my brother wants to which I don’t think he does either

mellow bolt
#

I think it’s just a bunch of girls in maid outfits serving you lol

#

I don’t know why the Japanese ppl make it so secretive and taboo

bold marlin
#

there's a momiji festival going on right now in aichi til the 30th

bold marlin
mellow bolt
bold marlin
#

kyoto actually got a couple things going on right now

mellow bolt
#

Lmao

bold marlin
#

its more than just happy ending and a massage lol

hasty hearth
#

Ill prob check out the festival in Kyoto then

bold marlin
#

how long you gone be there for

#

wtf. bruno mars is having a fireworks show in osaka lmao

#

and its free

hasty hearth
#

Tokyo until tues, then kyoto for like 4 days I think then Osaka for 2

bold marlin
#

damn i never knew there's so much festivals around japan during this time of year. ive always been on deployments around this time so ive missed out on everything

bold marlin
#

is step 10 the last of the growth guide ?

hasty hearth
dawn flare
mystic mural
#

patch in 3 hours

lavish lark
#

Galactic Disaster content improvement

#

very vague description xD

mystic mural
#

Its applying zero system buffs to the event chaos

lavish lark
#

yeah I know.. and adding tiers to it

solemn yacht
#

I was like it’s vague… doesn’t make sense

#

Then I realized Galactic Disaster content improvement is littlerally the title of their “we’ll fix seasonal chaos” blog post

unkempt arrow
#

Ppl so ready to pull the trigger they don’t even finish reading

charred citrus
#

Just happy we getting it same night as the post

lavish lark
#

Recommended level 130 worryKek

charred citrus
#

lol they are buffing that armor kasu

#

To 3 cards 😂

lavish lark
#

carapace?

charred citrus
#

It’s ridiculous now

#

Ya lol

lavish lark
#

yeah it's good on everyone now

charred citrus
#

It’s Bette than the cloak now by far

lavish lark
#

well hopefully we get more epiphanies now in season chaos

#

cause it was ridiculous be4

charred citrus
#

They changed a ton of the options

#

1 more copy possibility too

#

They seem reluctant to improve proc rate from battles

unkempt arrow
#

Since you can’t choose your epis or when they happen

#

That’s actually a good thing imo